PFW in Progress - 9/12/2007

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[3:23]" forget her from the Boston Globe are reaching the topic. I may be debate a question I've heard inside war here I think question that needed to be asked. And focusing on the statement as the -- wanted everybody to focus on and yet there's no. My interpretation of the rules mean in the statement -- should've shot it down that I have let you know at all and at about that their equipment chargers could -- continues -- Anything you know the rule -- no camera video keeping on the island problem blob bill sort of cut him off -- are right. And then walked out. On the -- check. East gate as everyone including Roosevelt Colvin was calling it in -- talk to him. Com we do not have any information in terms of the repercussions are going to -- because to -- there are clearly going to be repercussions the commissioner in the league has -- they were in direct violation of yeah I'd draft it has at least going to be -- I. I think the combination thing about the older are needed at that point that duffel. What awhile you know look -- talk that ought to -- again make up and they. He at the Broncos were -- the third rounder for the gallery Riley and you have to think going to be probably and they were out of it. Grounder under a different regime could tell him to shoot -- make -- an example or and passage. I think that just now -- TV show the way they picked us the in. I'm amazed at the attention it's gotten Aurilia you know talking about. In front page of the start on Monday when we were at the though show I'd like talking about it at all -- idea -- right. And I I'm shocked at how big a deal has become but it's become a big deal and I have. A comfortable the last year that when Roger to helping something's a big deal is that about it. He usually comes now we have our European -- other teams have given to Delk we've gone back the Packers and on the record talking about it what are like every other dont think the -- I need to. And to play as -- a team personally because I think if you have got a new -- that you do that biting -- these teams have dealt and I think I just get back. I watch and I today yet that you didn't like them. Everything you can Adam but I don't volunteer -- glad you brought that up it."

[5:51]" about everybody else doing it and you know -- in the closet wouldn't it be. Fairly reasonable that if a team what doing -- you know what was in fact doing it as well. That they wouldn't be willing to be blowing in it was right. Old now in the last. I don't know 21 games maybe you wouldn't. The patriots have been used. Pretty much on the record. At least four times of doing. And we on that those 14 at least probably weren't doing it back yes an unfortunate -- might want to drink. The ally in the actors it's coaches that I question. And it -- My point. My point that was so quick brushed under the rug is something that quote everybody L doing but yet there's a whole division worth of teams at the minimum. -- aren't doing right or are. Like you're -- They're playing awfully dangerous -- Not then there may not be doing they don't do well -- didn't -- him that maybe you lines -- not do it with my. Doing a video cameras but they're not so brazen as to guide a patriot jacket standing on the sideline. We have on the open to doing it. A little more or. When they outward. Or at what behind closed or the Ramada by the -- furcal overtly yet like out. For the medium or something. Where as the patriots did you -- Right out there don't. Now and look R and a and the appointment that people trying to make about that you know if the whole notion of not union not Tryon and all that and to bring him baby and I think there's I think there's an element of today you looking to get any advantage that you and but I do think the difference between -- the report that we -- last year in Miami. Of the adult players taking -- from TV and trying to link up the audio in and and and read lit into all that that need. If that's what they did okay let me state that would now like that's not what they did -- gotten out in the -- no other things they came out -- that they basically did something on the -- and video they tape which is illegal right now that that's actually by the rule. That I'd I'd I'd do have a problem with by the -- if they did that if they did epic on their own rate they recorded -- on their own in addition. To be I I have a problem with that I think that cheating. But what they took it from the old radio network. What -- they yeah. Every not a shortage of just from that around I don't have a problem that that's not -- from the game. But he understands what do you. I don't know if you've constructed the -- pointed directly at Tom Brady now battalion recording. -- that you're going out of your way to record. And I mean I actually just -- the gray area at least something like that would have a gray area you had your radio network -- you may have sort of that it get a chance even towards Brady this if there's gray area -- They have a guy with a video camera and the that's the part of there's not that was -- of a choice that no experience part of the statement. I'm -- you know I think that bill basically was trying to eliminate the barrage of questions I was really to come his way -- the statement didn't work. To do that because the questions came his way. As they should he kept falling back on the statement which was what we all figured he would do that fine. I don't think they've -- early -- anybody outside of the organization in the league an explanation personally. Robert Kraft and Iguodala who did he hit the patriots organization -- in the NFL in general. On yet he he is obligated in my mind answered them by head there's large portion of the fan base. The in which people that don't trust into the way -- and they -- electric bill we've gotten. Ridiculous emails -- PFW to -- You don't you don't want to end and they just keep into the top of the page as they come in and people about the people that -- to -- that -- And I -- I don't care right elbow. -- pride. Like you that India the other quality people are actually -- I was I was really really -- I thought I'd kind of like -- and I were talking yesterday. I thought it was kind of one of those deal yeah it's a big deal I wasn't -- downplaying it but I didn't think it was. You know as as big as it turned out to beat and it they for a second that we would get the amount of email. Out writing in my -- levels I've been shocked at how quickly that no balled into a massive -- Well I think it is Matt story but I don't really think I'm -- media. The implications on football self I didn't think doors -- they turned out I."

[10:51]" And donned a ball what do you think about Adam after reports. Everything on the table and I think it should be included ally I expect that because I do think he is a you brought up -- he said dad. That's -- I heard a new a new. I don't know he has that dad dale could tell how a senator. Who was of the three. For lack of it would be senator I understand audience who guys like known for sort of going against the grain on major issues if you believe something to be the right way he didn't even the politics and A all Republicans -- That's an inning and the way people describe it on the radio yesterday he has a -- painting -- in his office and he could be. You know living in that legacy of this is what the Goodell family does if we think jumping right we come down on hard regardless of what public. You know owners whoever me think so. I think he's tech -- if he thinks this is a really bad thing he thinks this is a huge deal he comes down are you mentioned alot of the point about Washington to what you think -- got off to an easier being. Boy you come down packed into -- mind these other guys you as I hit it. -- it's neat to become down cultures now. Who breaking -- and bringing you know a negative light -- had a valid point and I imagine that happening this team is -- it's not gambling affecting the of the if you don't think it's on the open up if both teams are. I think I'm playing field."

[12:24]" And I don't care you know I've I've heard a lot of the different you know sort of explanation. And rationalizations it's a competitive advantage and and right they wouldn't do yeah it can build till telecheck in my opinion it's like okay. And he wouldn't be going with troubled doing something -- he didn't -- reported -- that of people that via an almighty did oversees. Four I don't evidence I give you. -- my opinion I have to I have to these guys cocky and she can Izturis and did you can't read what -- want to areas that are -- and out to. Relative -- they want one period there you know telling and those -- mom under the bus came to and he he can handle herself she cries a lot but she's a couple. But that that that one I certainly would agree with -- because you know. I think there's an element of arrogance it is now the other one way outside the box in Indy over the top in bill we trust gets credit yeah he did it because you know everybody else is doing and he wanted to get it which. The -- you wanted to. Welcome back if you think it's wrong and can though however you do that you admit that the committee and change in the he's just like every other team tried to do to make this mockery."

[13:43]" It to your team right but adults you know we've kind of forgot about it pretty -- game colored up the chargers and nobody cares about it right now what the press conferences and that this week about using it to take a first round pick the team back at a finally they drafted at least that's. They used to practice -- that you -- there to first rounder right now which gives you ability if you want to trade up one thing to get a player common now that take away without ability. Yeah it definitely -- teams that draft pick away in this weekend. Outcome and tell me you don't want to upset that stat you can article how can. Draft weekend that he won't be in the jewelry of the Columbine we'll just predict brother he. But that's the reason I don't go right cup. Because built wouldn't hurt the team trying to win football games I think that's the last and that hurt his team no matter who they otherwise that the players don't care. All it takes over the focus away. Oh that's why don't think well I'm just trying to prove a point believe I agree with you Paul I think he would do in -- way yeah."

[14:57]" Mean I make I -- that say for argument it that you know for a fact it's going on. And you want to get rid of a case that your his his motives are genuine okay he will rid the league of this. -- finally -- you know. Oh -- she. Why not go to the commissioner garner Robert to go to commissioner and if that -- that it went this how they're doing it -- right why would you want I don't does -- exhibited. I'll shoulder and -- I'm going to do a slightly dominated caught -- I've gotten caught the -- aren't a minimum of three times that we know. Charlie casually talked about one that happened early in the year that he didn't mention the teams and we don't know that. And -- lions are on record in the -- run record for what happened three times in post it. And Goodell came down hard on in the offseason and it it my -- equipment and -- Against a team that you know is going to nobody does it. In the jet he doesn't like that. I think it -- I think that they've figured I'm going to do it at the cadets are -- the -- yesterday it's a word that's worth -- a lot on WEEI -- when those guys just -- issue. I think -- Oakland went that it at a competitive advantage -- in -- competitive arrogance of adrenaline that -- Imply that a hundred times on the insure that you know any competitive advantage I don't get a team going and."

[16:28]" At the players he talked to old are well tighter tighter march -- taught him. In guys like that I heard rod Woodson talk it and Terrell Davis and they were they in which you can do it did take the Polaroid that you get from the game. And that you could take the I'll go after the first order halftime try to cup. We're going odd that -- with their formation with the running out of Ortiz should be fan and beyond. If it moral advantages -- advantage whatever it is not as. Dominate every coverage but they know he's. -- play -- that I'll you know that that back in it okay. If for all willing to -- a great coach K he's a great game planners great preparation guy. And what not. How much more valuable would it -- for him to have. A couple other extra -- work with Brett how much more valuable would that be like anything -- direct at a level playing field. You give him a couple of extra bullet to work with and he's -- beautiful. -- give their email address out so we can actually fans who like chime in and bring you and I aren't. -- radio Patriot Act on Greg genie you're out there anyone else who might and by 3543748. Point three -- eight that cheating the video. They run that -- not politically that it crosses out on the field I always try to line coaches do it when he. I didn't have a video to do it comical. When he talked about like you know. How much easier awarded and right to have that kind of stuff I heard a little -- RO at a little Larry this is well and there were all pretty much universally in agreement all the players -- a little bit interest and I the quick question I I came in right at the end on the on an -- where they had crop. Earth and I cut the and a good idea what. Played out in that it would be -- the guys and they. Centuries and then yeah we're talking about it Eddie pretty much of the -- was they were talking about the between baseball and football hopefully -- yet in that's the thing that TV all baseball he did you know you can throw the guy and things like that what they -- that you know. It was the camera that they. Yeah yeah."

[18:56]" it and second. Connect it. The famous playoff game with the giants and the Dodgers back in yeah the only dirty yesterday and white people universally -- how -- I going to panic I would want him -- moments in baseball. But it's been tarnished because I am real doubt whether or not there was a camera out there that would change the whole thing that technology -- what changes. You know it changes from gamesmanship which the word now the euphemism that. Has been thrown out there are cheating for -- absolutely -- that -- from gamesmanship. To flat out cheating and to me like any college program that gets caught. And you might it and Bagwell and all the major programs that are doing things in recruiting violations of what about when you get caught. You get punished you go on probation at that point -- because a 120. Division one college 212 or probably joke -- the right away I don't know the not a terrible. But I -- fascinating topic I was surprised by the way that the amount of players that that actually in the locker room today talking. Now more -- I don't think about it I don't know commented on the outlining haven't fall. And -- Larry Izzo spoke I didn't really hear hands like in what he and I didn't I talk to and he said. I annoying about it we don't we weren't in involved with the has played on grass the typically if they'll double check it ended. We -- do and he said. -- will continue to play continue to move on because we're not about one coach one player anything where a team here will treat the -- way to do that at that that. A lot and I. It from eight Roger Goodell level that's my I don't take graphics I just -- the for a week. How -- I know he's been at for a week and make sure he's not drawing up the game plan you know anybody -- is actually. With why you spend -- six. And guy because he is he is that. Michael aren't too and I don't want him not not real laws and I tell you think you'll be in -- I didn't. -- Yeah willingness to cheat you spending emperor cheating you don't think there's a chance he -- the Valentine's -- he should argue that has -- let them know. Yeah shown that he doesn't have an ethical problem with banning the rule -- I know is that. I think it would be just that I agree with you that -- followed -- now that I think data stupidity didn't mention editor of sport like that violate what 8 like it it's not elation -- for games right. And now I think the -- have to -- to you know find it. I defined should be I want it morning second and fourth in -- two under 50000 dollar fine. I think that you hit an owner to say. Keep an -- and you got you know hit you in the pocketbook I think he's -- them. My you know -- apartment and I think and they say I know wins and he makes me money but now starting to really actually cost me. And money on the other end and tarnishing your -- repeat and I don't you don't like that big thing for people especially Gallagher you know. That really cares about it in public image his persona. That tarnished image how different we talked a little about the yesterday how different is this than me. The dynasty that there's been cheating allegations whether it's cap with the niners -- At the head of the tone of these dealers in terms of being you know they had the best Jews and we're on the forefront of that I think that they've been aren't."

[22:39]" Eating salary cap thing -- party got the players on the field you know ideally he needed to get them right there the steroid thing. How many people are doing generally I think the dealers in my opinion if they were too important everyone else that -- I don't know where it's. Most people -- otherwise the world they -- great but the cowboys were demoted to bet that supposedly a little. The two teams in the -- and it was a lot of drugs I think it's great. In my opinion -- yeah I agree with you I stayed in history the cowboy. -- call it up and we not think -- And I'm Gina I'm white I'd -- Dallas Cowboys to right they order call eight Bangkok or -- whoever aunt in law that the old they played by the rules I just say. I defy you to find me a great coach who didn't bend or break the mail to John Corey he. Way I got -- And I need to -- actually breaking a rule or not at -- and that's what I camera thing I think can't I think his breaking a rule. Picking up -- signals by watching. Right back to the -- well it was a well welcome -- when he had. He and I beat either he took a guy -- him a guy they have to walk on freshman. Spent the entire -- them and then the game over the why he was on the other line and then call. And that cheating yet. To -- actually and that happened what 17 was at the 47 years ago. Well I really do believe on some level weather in direct. Or -- Lee going to get their old cheating accept I think -- in my opinion you know that you basically you have by the problem too. They warned the teams with the patriots -- typically at the top of the list but that does and they still -- Paul that -- a New York jet coached by me and idiot Bryant able. It week."

[24:46]" And evidently it is an -- and maybe Gary he's spreading it already you get the chance -- in. From the daily news that you know one of the writers -- her -- from the Hartford current actually mad at me. That -- genie is quoted as saying. You know we were looking forward today is because we knew that we knew how they did it they've done it several years in the past and we knew they would be doing it again that -- you know I -- or try to if we could find it but the other part I just I can't. Every -- at about the NFL cracking down. Well what India realm of possibility that the NFL just said we're going to be watching where I mean. You about it got a cup car who give warning and the next season and when you ask him that they -- he's not getting another. I'll take it up for that you're you Telerate what what what were -- on the bird. -- to graduate and you can't stop until into. Okay before we take going to the crowd here these 21 in queens the talk about the pick and."

[25:55]" A minute yeah. There's two issues that I think com is a purpose you waited so hole. -- single -- that is -- model somewhat. From you spend your -- it's -- Rabbit being a technical everything British dukes game six because there's a everything. The situation looked like right now of the testing thing. Such a -- include -- signal. Wouldn't what's going to some of the you don't just chewing a hole in the McDyess took hatred and this was. You still opinion though so all these. Song that -- going to get winded if it's true. What's it. But -- you think -- and they're going not saying it's happening in this league play."

[27:03]" You don't give -- a good point because -- private and public as the commissioner at all. Like we we only know being reported right now but does he have more stuff that he knows a ball like -- at that radio frequency data that I became a little bit receipt of more information. Could that be go to bed basically you're talking about 14 but it should open I can take it. I think he thinks he's an life changing the game back in in a negative mystique and it started 2000 wandered into our 2000 advocate you know -- and I. That's very you know takes a look at that they would you know to take a way to -- of what the well it calls it all a question like the steroid thing. You don't we talked about it a lot we go with pride in the eight DH. He's ready to get a couple of years go to try to heal more quickly from that devastating injury suffered in Pittsburgh well. Only -- to know how much of performer before that may it may -- may -- and we don't. Now and that's what we know if he's doing now we know we wasn't doing it the whole time here how would we don't even Cleveland. I have no idea where to draw the line natural makes these things very."

[28:18]" Of course you you're where. -- to be a what we're pretty typical but the supported it executed suns."

[28:31]" Now -- may have been cheating it depends of the try to get on line and a cheating if they."

[28:40]" Wouldn't -- be it was you know what happens go to schools. There have been no problem but at least it won't hurt and that's attribute that to --"

[28:55]" it's a different things. That they had Zach Thomas Mike and in the end up that -- that -- the video and able to devise in that game right and into a question for you -- that. The the incredible -- I didn't want to not anymore the."

[29:23]" I think this couldn't -- a couple of plant not here but you're going to step. A situation that put the -- this isn't going to select. We appointed it was going to different yeah. The original six to sit. But it's still stand up -- typical you think that the reports again."

[29:48]" Well that's another good point eight day that's all we ever had I think -- got -- great welcome. Not -- critical. He put billion dollars a year 50 million dollars a year or say in the crap that they couldn't do you really want to give him a long term contract with that kind of money don't want the trouble he's got a good look what happened you know he has number one of these. Copper -- teams in Indian naked cot and now and -- you're the one of the emails cockamamie -- when they get back. Today I personally did not alone in front of -- fans there's more than a typical Oakland right out at a very disillusioned. A."

[30:30]" You have to really wanted to be detonation rule on cocker may -- trades if you ever be hall of Famer you have great called in and lunch in the coming we just put you over the top. -- on the line tomorrow would go to. When we come back from the tour gets all the emails floating in we have cup committee didn't get it. Pat and an Illinois we have do we know 88. Reporters video game and that and the front yep -- return. Well might have been -- just a little it is writing -- what my mouth patriot dark."

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[34:28]" And yes I am proud email from. In the end. Tickets that com web read the Patriot Act. The entire. So focused on video 2007 the Patriot Act she can and I wish exaggerating but the title. The team let you know if the president came to him I'm so excited about the -- coming -- I actually yet. -- not coming to the team about you know winning games of forming on the field suddenly it's about the actions looked. I did my job at red -- at the guys locker would be funny reporter at any appeal and 20 -- That'll be classic classic up but yeah -- feel -- get back on if you want to join. Emails and just -- got another call. -- in Orlando, Florida jump to about get a 2000 and it."

[35:19]" my personal that is an agreement themselves do. Has donated some papers is just about as silent videotape."

[35:28]" Team now after the commissioner and I memos saying don't."

[35:32]" If you get event -- do well. -- I don't have a clue was most -- it into asthma but it stands to him watching it --"

[35:44]" my team into the -- stupid and we were talking about the earlier there. Okay everybody doing it yet the patriots are noted for everybody they know that -- going to do they do. Rodney -- knowledge that I've worked for the patriot that'll play for a because I worked for the patriots I don't think I would use my David credit -- I bought steroids online is -- somebody found now. Rodney you're in place on the team and he used his credit card and name. The by the by eight hole on your why why are doing that through all the -- taken to propel."

[36:18]" Now it is like quickly get a public consciousness actually just thinking get away with certain things -- only when particular way."

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[36:28]" I just think it's tentative -- some successful donuts so long and however came as donate tickets -- it was a dead and they dispute that they would get caught ought to dictate content on this page are what prospects money it. -- going to do with the most importantly it would and I got agency if the ball was -- America -- ultimately there had been practicing mostly I've expected to what I --"

[36:58]" I agree with you -- to a -- and with -- the part about you know the other teams delaying me and I just don't know that by. You know who knows maybe that'll end up being right you know third or fourth round you have no -- terrorists to me. If it was a third or fourth round pick and maybe a little -- that that me would would equate to a slap on the wrist. At a -- with Tommy that the delta and take this. That era and not find it is -- however each night to deal that I have no idea what the with the punishment should be. I'm not in that kind of situation but."

[37:29]" I think that would that would happen is that part of it draft pick that I didn't I would be suspended. A hole leader at the accident let's go -- the direction that it."

[37:40]" Ballot that guys and nobody no offense and a Fella he told an important things a bit about I told to do something. Because controlled every aspect of this team from top to bottom little more detail and minutia."

[37:55]" Yet another -- a great games in the in the but I -- that -- I just think posting -- but it. In the game ticket out there have to edit one without the patriots should be do not do this. I don't think it -- success of that along -- its procrastinator it is to. It."

[38:24]" It took him. We we have agreed oh boy it pointed out the league and now there look at it high draft pick and possibly the coach ever I'm not by not that that their motive was appointed ultimately I'm not fine at all are you deal on pretty but I don't think that it may be the man to take it upon them I'll point it out of the week if you really -- you have proof. All the proof read what you do with the jet that why embarrass yourself by getting caught that's why there's Bayern and their details we may never know. That the house -- the exact reasoning let me -- don't think. Okay utley what he'd do what made -- didn't -- that -- You already like -- yeah he's -- do you think he is. If he wanted to prove that Lee and of one caught for -- that would be if you get a call the league that was a guy that because I like with a video I mean and a total. Off --"

[39:25]" Does mean Jeannie and maybe a Romeo Cornell have any any questions here. In terms of what they may have known when we hear you know what they're doing now. Yeah I think everybody who's coached here -- you know nick is adequate and that nick Saban comes from the entry in his the most. -- local one that we've heard of lately with the that the dolphins I don't think so. I mean when I hate that idea. Comes on the Leone camp. You converted he thinks so it's totally our object by the way if you ever remembered a time where. -- the starting quarterback in week one was traded. On the just happened according to that anchor -- you don't you don't do that. I'll pick -- the -- first round draft pick that could be a top three. If like I unwrapped a great trade by Jerry I think -- You -- hobbled Eckstein at second a promise where Brady Peyton duck because they're flying in. You bring up you know today a question to answer Eric Mangini Romeo Crennel but how do we know exactly who knows what here. I I I think. Leave the players that they can really know what I he tells -- what's going I I do as well because that's me I get him involved right this might be another one of these dumb things make an option here because you know make an option and it would assume. It would be a bring about a happy guy evidently. Not to you know Tim Mangini -- that's a bit of that there's been conflicting reports which I'd like he was on -- posing a double that he's on the jets' sideline innings on the other sideline. Tom okay -- I'm David and -- total. Tom -- to the emails now while and you know it. In the 42 minutes suddenly he's give me I'm going to look like you want to talk he'd stick his pitching arm that -- yet to I remember it off the air yeah okay -- the the first email yes players. It like -- significantly maybe upwards of 50 pounds. Maybe -- party lost weight and my significantly -- say what you -- to make -- and no I don't like that --"

[41:40]" All went down. We go to court. In the late in the godfather or he didn't want anyone or was it could be repeated right so white held -- players have idled more than 82 but is it possible that the as in aren't involved. I mean I think they would know I sleep openly involved it would have to know because when you take in the the got to be don't -- I don't know -- there's a different. Between sort of known what's going on you don't know exactly how -- got it right yeah given they'll credit for more how he bought that coach film and he got. All of that from that coaches' film. Yeah great -- breaking down film like nobody I mean isn't. Believe but isn't that plausible that he knows more about this than most people that brought that person I think you -- go back do you balance the way the ballot in when he when he you know pellet -- a break -- at the age of nine. Evidently had a legal cameras don't. And the next down over earlier and he had stuff that -- O'Neal -- back so we were running we went back in Diego that it -- if the if the chargers win this week. That locker room that's going to be an oval with a pop off into the match with -- going to be like if they win or email is not a great one but I'll read it anyway he had a second name. I think -- gate is better than video game. Okay dealers and -- it as a whole story of dealers steroids cook a matter rook at Celtic with an equal MSNBC I don't know but there's you know what we -- would agree on yeah. Are guilty like bonds I do it yet that I I -- gentleman we need to hear from Cleveland brown head coach Romeo Cornell. Do we -- during our three Super Bowl run. Disheartened longtime fan bill disheartened -- I'm aware of these people are -- in how prevalent in a lot of those demons. Disheartened to illusions but. I don't think -- meals but I'll build on the river -- now I open about Charlie -- Were -- he was -- and I call those guys that I have been a couple phone calls lady you know thing for. Taken heat off. It was out of joking about that yet as if anyone out there are all in particular area as well if anyone they're all Charlie -- that it could you please email in because he was joking election was laughing about it up I didn't quite get the whole. The -- probably."

[44:05]" We try to fans and we don't touch the mother. -- the front."

[44:11]" If I was Charlie I would be laughing about it no. Where -- though that's what I'm wearing my players and myself. And right the -- old gray guy it's obvious that a whole can of worms has opened up here it boils down to this we need -- The league has -- visual documented or otherwise of course past championships in football hockey baseball to some degree. Is tarnished you've been I need to think otherwise someone cheated somehow -- degree. In this situation they have that -- need to be evaluated again a role in opposed done that and definitely declared that broke the -- although it for now punishment and Adams after that. Beyond Seattle but doll from her that is how would always could have been is and should be going forward if -- broke the rules meaning he held accountable bear bear anything else it's just you're right. -- I delete 17 commitment is an amazing thing bill -- And have gone over -- at a -- for the week he we know about it yet but I that you gotta be careful there are cheap. On the -- asking how nobody people have done it maybe he has more things and and his old -- we don't know yet we won't know until he comes out there like the Michael Vick and more more coming out every -- and -- it ends up with a guy looking really right does it bother you guys and football in general. Like the enjoyment that you get from watching football period I bet you find out that the prevalent and teams -- always you know trying to cheat the I don't always kind of thought I've -- and I thought it was always a game when you watch on trying to get. Trends and whatnot I didn't older video tape didn't like the whole scouting expect at that point. I don't hit it. Immediate you know I used it that the email were to stop talking because now we have -- or 15 minutes ago I played all right -- 40 -- only start at the bottom of guns that came in yesterday we we gotta get more than what will you do what you want -- and carpet and"

[46:17]" that'll. Our depth we gotta go to another way to get -- try to make -- good and."

[46:24]" Hey good afternoon -- The clip he was last in the joking and so you know pick it up -- pick up the phone call about -- tent -- did you say it was -- it was -- he'd often he would even. Like yet at Notre Dame that pretty much that's what I interpreted it just. I don't -- I don't understand -- just -- one week. To beat the they made called a sense of them -- I made a couple of Charlie a lot like you'd be hard being a jerk these guys is gonna make fun. Hopefully I mean is that I'm not such an -- in -- so evidently it. the Simpsons he went there it would do well on the -- even better let."

[47:07]" I agree he was back but he's on the outside now he's not he's not a well like right now the one caught red handed -- technically the patriot. Are well -- can't speak I know you must now be reading loads of emails with Harris and steroids -- Mark heroics in the videotaping all need to ask is this how much of a truth. Is it that they are doing malpractice is or if it is not. There a league wide hatred is -- against the patriots -- not just yet we -- here Packers and lions of all 32 teams complain that. Recording -- and frankly. What do we game by taping Packers and lions maybe teach how not to coach. There is no I was listening to Thompson repeatedly screaming. On the NFL network that he doesn't seem prize and he has crystal it was -- He was chuckling that was -- that I couldn't hear when he played on the taping of our TV show yesterday it was it was quiet he -- surprising he has heard the patriots have done many of these things I also read it in a blog which tells bill has -- better record in New England only because of this come on guys isn't Tom Brady Rodney Harrison Tedy Bruschi Troy brown Richard you -- Ty Law. Sounded talent enough. To beat teams around the league I do not understand why -- ran into a vendetta against pat is -- jealous or they're on and the principle is an -- of truth the commissioner -- but Baylor kinda late. Make it. Don't point at the same thing if there that pelted they have the best quarterback in the culture of football while they were kind -- let it be 38 confidently by the way -- entertaining to watch Mark and green and -- Indy playing open. Cheating is from Keith -- and all the stuff pat and -- I have a theory."

[48:54]" While the lions and the Packers in particular. And that is that -- talked about the little bit in the past the teams that he has a tough time of one NFC teams that even out and not very good. He's not quite mountains I'm not I'm not surprised to find out that all of those beat two teams that. He's typically was -- worried about getting signals and doing anything Internet I have -- he does it -- week for every single -- I think -- are locked in a -- he had -- library at every -- tape and can always use that as a resource -- to go back -- and -- that coordinator -- ship to another team when a -- in the -- whatever it may be an -- we -- that -- that we -- yesterday. They go at it -- changed all -- every week the players that I've heard speak publicly that clearly true now 828 a double double of the things you could -- back -- they rotate them or they might change a -- government might change victory right people on not that correct that they change every week that's wrong right I I believe that."

[49:58]" Be wrong to keep on cheating I just want to share my thoughts on video update it appears pats aren't backed guilty according to league officials they they Goodell want head. Possibly a first round pick or picks in a fine while this. Has really escalated -- something very there is got the row that now I don't think I've heard that by the way on the radio a comparison to what Pete rose did to the game and what this could have done to the game in this time. I don't think they'll be can be -- from coaching but this is huge I've seen it on ESPN NN even in my local news channel in Florida not to mention all over the Internet while unfortunately as a lifetime pat and for over 30 years the patriots dynasty will forever be tarnished by the scandal. How could be be. -- down. Poor judgment by DB in the pats organization at least if they're going to buy it from the fans would all the electronics out there would be just as easy and not against the rules. This is like robbing a bank without a masking giving the tell your Internet I'm trying not to jump the gun but the -- have to orbit multiple pick and maybe 81 rounder. After the sacrifice made to trade away one of the first rounder last year to have it taken away. This year I don't know that if I wasn't pat and I be laughing my hat off now that. Of mad as hell for destroying the well respected patriot like he that we used to have ten and they -- part of the game and I have no problem with that but don't be stupid -- in the open like -- to -- a fake name -- I'm -- thank you are -- event in -- if you do this -- we read -- and we -- in the your pit stop and -- a lot like -- beyond comprehension -- All all of oh oh basically era that not that they -- but -- yeah. -- our next is subject heading Michael elder comment on Randy Mark and this is from on key. Which -- at a and EHY. One time what -- I mean I jokester too ugly hat and I do it reds media. A lot of tough love the show you guys of course usually I get back and enjoy the show but what bothers me is Michael bell inspires us remember show back when when he came on. And all I can say is Randy moss is a dog and that how he hate him and we'll never -- him on a team blah blah blah. Now after all the world after the all world performance he put he wants to make love to the guys I really hate writers like him well people in general. Give the guy a chance to prove -- before passing judgment. Why can't he -- show up in -- he was wrong about Mark in any of the articles or show that's well at least in class and they face. They're just want to get -- out he looked good work I gonna be a great year when it was going to be that it was he he showed happy just changed his argument that it heated they brought. Okay we have in Orlando. On the record for a record taking opinions on video -- 2007."

[52:55]" A man I have no opinion I think I have opinion on Bill Belichick was out of the guy -- I read this statement on line and the -- or it doesn't want to apologize I mean that's. That's costs about me is like him leading guilty I mean he shouldn't -- done that."

[53:12]" Well I think he's been proven guilty that's why he did that they had him red handed quite -- extorted incredibly. Like comment on -- 8 and and I apologize. But all I think like yeah 30 I'm sure it will be probably told him the day that they -- The Mike you totally it -- I'd already Dole's comment I think we don't eat is not like -- a legal kind of matter where. You know -- can come back and haunt them went through that you know it's -- quote bill you know it is in the barn now you know I'll -- you know they all. -- that date they have what they needed to have. It to find the patriots guilty. So we get -- taken away. All righty and he negative first day to day to apply -- exactly first sticks around. My dad and I think it's gonna want more than that maybe money -- I don't active sport originally but everything I'm -- it now would be doubting the first rounder for Olympic etiquette to score he has an -- pitchers it will can afford it. I don't know I'm not sure is going to be a lot of negotiating going on -- I don't think Roger Goodell negotiate dictate and he's going to tell bill what he thinks and this might be you know bill that a lot of -- maybe believe people in the past. I only Roger Goodell is going to be built bullied by Bill Belichick. -- aren't all --"

[54:36]" yet figure. You -- I think it's like salt that accurately be apologized all I was thinking about it you know that on it was and you my girl caught red handed on the -- wasn't. You can do about it owes me an it was you don't go in today he. Gary of the best I think yeah -- guy's got everything. -- every song and you are I have court. You can make an opening with that could you maybe put together some bills audio from today. I'm looking forward to that on what's tomorrow Thursday willow -- here Johnnie LA."

[55:15]" Sleeping on the jets over there. -- and your. -- this when I like for the love of god in I don't think it has anything to do would be cheating but how acting stupid is -- Not think you guys keep your broadcast you know the ones where he repeatedly refers to mosque as a dog. Not that he was dogging it like you know that was -- claims that actually using the -- he's out there. I realize he's a disingenuous piece of Jose offerman leveled junk but how can he -- but how can you people's intelligence like this be it not like we have to dig through the it's of of a computer or call on satellite company do make trick issue back trait it probably know my quick and I -- you will. He didn't you -- and yeah I think. -- of crap -- Craig Kilborn take a lot like a big -- I'm at at exit question about it. While he liked the -- nobody there -- wrong -- dog he's the Opel G dog after all the how you would know Mike wouldn't checking and Mike from Ramon knew him. I must admit. I had -- feeling in my stomach thinking the -- had cheated at all I feel that with the talent on the team we would not have to do that I am a man of integrity and do not condone any -- on the at all. I love this team and whatever stopped following them but I hope they will never resort to this again if found guilty -- bad sportsmanship. You know what a little bit of a contradiction because I think -- just an opinion for a quick -- on. I say I am okay which -- in football part of the game I would take steroids but you know what I did at Walmart Home Depot the other day. Accidentally walked out -- they grill brush and a grill paddled W played in my car Jeter goes it was just go. And I go on -- that you did do dollars and 22 and I couldn't deal. I try to -- apples underneath that he -- apples and -- got like a laser on that tells you check under cart check under. I had a -- a guy -- that who might well -- Pepsi that I had an opportunity and I didn't pay a guy you can get I should I now shoplift there with my two on three out of every ten time you get away with that tried out -- the put up but the bottom three out of every ten times you can get away with a little while I am. I was cheating I didn't cheat I could all but I didn't. A and I don't want RF -- totally forgot about jay and from cold lake Alberta Canada on the neck and a redundant all the lakes and can be called north of African anywhere. Again and to deal. For these lately -- getting stranger by the minute. A running are using HE HB accord to probable talk Roger bo could help concluded the New England Patriots violated league rules -- me according pro football talk this move well beyond rumors -- pro yeah -- you know now like CNN -- session regarding patriot defensive -- wearing microphones capture offense of line call in quarterback. Audible that I hadn't I hadn't heard that's what the dolphins apparently did. That happened I still legal I would think. But I don't know. You can't my -- Mike -- of the lesbian might that to them. The team doesn't have an audio is yet and I figured that long -- at halftime would line up video and audio -- they would have the calls for the I think that'll be real -- to do that quickly what happened 12 minute. I think that the art under -- in. I'm -- that it whatever but it's going to be difficult to really get a lot out of that. A few problems -- giving -- a quick question your. What a pain in the area -- Wednesday -- a dead in the third quarter like it was like they're doing halftime that team comes back now -- radio out of bill I got everything and there are other reports that. People have used video cameras weather patriots are now Arnott and had -- to a coach's box so I was like immediate coaches upstairs could be right analyze what it and Turkey is an -- happening okay did this and I can price match that up with the rest of -- going to know what that means is it feasible to think that the team could effectively collect all that information figure out what was going on and then implement it to their advantage before the start of the second half -- which -- not sure. They say the pats organization think that in doing -- that none of these defensive players that had the alleged microphones wouldn't share that info the -- the next time they -- I have a hard time believing the patriots as an organization are that stupid to think that they could keep this type of thing on direct that's another issue. Keeping this under -- Depending on who knows about these type things as players coming go you know Ty Law you don't think he might be true -- I don't think the players -- that's why I actually a microphone."

[1:00:00]" That doesn't make a good point about the players because you get a guy like Ty Law you know he's not -- as well you know I did anybody get about myself that he -- tennis racquet there I was totally taken out of context coming go every you know you have a reasonable to keep coach at together. The wind and that people have to know but. You have no chance of keeping it into that book Paul even with the call -- you can do that cold crap like I wouldn't wouldn't go after that it -- right up as we yesterday we think -- it would take advantage 30 we -- go the last thing he asked for a pro football talk is relatively reliable they don't. Make any bones about it they topped out talent they were rumors out there they admit -- and rumors out there but the issue is a lot of times those rumors and a pink -- to agree that. They don't hit a lot of patriot rumors. Like those they didn't have any forever he was on the and he didn't have good command right you don't get a lot of 83 like a lot of the a lot of picked up on that -- right. I know what is on that it's very part of HR boy PJ shining in hey guys a couple of bought an -- urged all. And he -- three week defending his position of being more likely that the path went to open to now and then what happens he -- that equates to figure. -- I don't think too much the whole nine dealing thing it doesn't -- Pat's legacy in my mind but because they were warned the patriots deserved whatever punishment is given them I don't care that BB act arrogant at times and get under people's skin but -- a draft pick and was a dumb thing to do MVP should be. Called on the carpet for -- I -- and to the -- that spotlight and I mean of people that are out of mora at about the the potential that we're -- draft. I mean and I mean Hewitt at the have a problem with the you don't really like I'm -- draft pick not that big -- draft. One year I mean how much affected by losing the traffic when you got pellets are going to for. The relating that nearly anyone superbowl I mean about a draft and that. Ball that would be my usual -- you know. Same thing by the I think those are air like they might be called cheap shots coming from me because I -- multi big help as people and yet and would police weren't we're not taking shot. -- repeating things that people are talking about nationally and in local and we had a huge media contingent an and now today it at that people talk about how much of the out -- in that that will probably never -- no way to quantify it also spread as yesterday about the new -- I have to say that the patriot and he shows great more opera. That is that Cochran. Accra Accra and -- below equals good rating. Finally I want that probably thinks about Nebraska Kansas or USC this week I'm not counting on a win but I am hoping to keep it close and Lincoln later guy -- the F. Reggie need to show last night what up the crap. -- as soon as Greg phone call. I shot Craig Craig I loan Nebraska as a league at -- that's going to be a heck of a competitive game too because of brad has played. Played at two. Pretty tough game not too pretty tough game they played two games that you -- as a -- but he -- Idaho scrimmage. Likely just be ready. They'll be a little bit more ready than Hewitt -- around. I think they'll cover I don't think they'll win you know given out free advice I thought the militant and I don't think freer like -- he's -- I have words to anyone what I -- launch. I think in Nebraska right that that the ticket with a didn't ask to have a tough game against the reasonably yeah -- and wait for doubted may have another the first week in date it will score at -- half -- that. I don't light on our court you know early on they were it was a struggle for awhile and -- the idea. -- we wait for the that was about. I I -- I was -- play right I think to be relatively close are we keep them through these emails of that like a surveillance object hey guys great show yesterday. Tom in Indy without question that he heavy hitters of this team. -- good to have break shall be too tired from time of the picture to hang with the underlings. Absolutely been stopped if I want to clear -- My meeting about the new tricky Dave on the video cast well -- meeting calling it and -- I should have that straight out of Medford she looked like when she. Heat up the sky's the limit for fun and top secret. I can't I every night all is email I should probably now and a football -- I'm -- now hard -- ought to be shot he was staying the patriots report that the championship is this guy for real do you think. Thomas may get moved back to outside linebacker this week. I don't have a big jump that it take what you get and you could McClain I. What about the hard thing any chance and knowing that level I'm at college can't do that that. Like kneeling on -- college. -- are not only the NBA team you guys can that do they don't give a championship -- anything that. Just like 30 by giving up the record skeptical Beckett help with everybody who's over -- that an eagle was literally about a little -- people have been saying they should forfeit the first game. You know why the hell would they -- do first of all that you could beat them. It a million a year or let's say that right now I could never beat the patriot if it was cold they've won by one. I'd -- last week I was close -- half and so they I. Is that true do you think Dave Thomas no not Dave Thomas the daily on a move backed out at linebacker this week. I don't think so because people had about 35 and I am anticipating that happening at that point on no idea you know held -- he's going to be out I'd -- it'll be so. Indian could be. It would be nice to have a beat up the edge to heal -- Tom Watson's -- on the outside which is what I talked about earlier we had a whole argument. I think guys like Thomas and if they get the edge they take it to the house and that's why I want the guy with more athleticism on the yet. Now in the -- okay in the middle you to chase down. I want him on the judgment that probably not like that but I probably could. Multiple cases of I look to our gazelle running wild and free over camera and the other inept secondary personnel and Diego it own I have real -- and not the high school guys we had last year. When Troy and Chad Jackson c'mon you beat thanks for the great show -- the only one I care who cheat or those who wear the strike."

[1:07:08]" on the officials don't -- he's okay it was funny because I remember all the emails that we got last year during the season oh I go like yeah going to those email that was ain't talking about why you guys get I want to target and usually call okay calls will revert Albert -- look at Japanese career over he played a bad team used him. It -- as well I don't receivers I would agree that the that huge edge of the patriot and and in game. If you get a feel there's a game this week gap we on the field real receivers well. I mean his what is four through you know I'd be like that not making them out to be -- that he is I agree you -- everyone of those guys go on. Troy and which I think it's hard to bridge I don't -- to get healthy enough -- and anything -- I think yet. I only -- and I for the year I just don't you better cut him I think if he's healthy somebody go well one if you agreed. I think it would not I guess -- R -- R Gaffney. And to to have to have I've missed out on the I wouldn't -- whatever I I I just had every rethought the topic I I just remember Chad brown on the roster. Chad brown goes when Troy brown healthy fiddle at such a guy come back on it right yet. Move -- J and -- yeah in -- He's -- latest event are just the beginning in my opinion the chargers walk. Over a weekend simply because of the fact that a major -- traction regardless if the players claim is. All the more motivation for the chargers to. I really feel bad for all the players that put in a much hard work day in and day out 12 hours a day in fact thanks a lot patriot coaches we really taint. The patriot image because now everyone will discredit everything they have done the worst part of it. Is Kraft probably not knowing about this going on in if he did. Why allow it to happen again if we really as good as everyone make out to be why why why do something so stupid. Not to mention how obvious was an employee dressed in patriot year taping is pretty damn obvious great job -- we fans also offer from this and I'm not embarrassed to be a patriot band it was nice having won -- it was nice having one off season bending birdie a major talent he'll also be the last as there won't be any more big name players wanted to join the team now. -- and yet we don't the groups on the player thing now. As a player you're doing your job you didn't know that something they did you may or may not have been gotten by these means and they're going to in the potentially give credit what you've done to help build that all. You know they showed today breaker to cut the -- very -- out."

[1:10:02]" Have a couple of -- you know I'd heard 1 morning driving and and now. Caller called in and you know everybody universe is at the patriot overwhelming favorite. Right there's been no even read negatively to hold onto. Now bill did -- create an adversity. And to have you know people out then and now he can say they think that we just needed to get all our success -- that's the rallying cry you know Fred."

[1:10:33]" rally as that the celebrity not that good if you got to do that kinda crap to win that your team not that good in my opinion that a best team in football you don't need to do this next one is from somebody can't in Washington DC if that -- progress video game hey guys I'm a rabbit -- band love -- show -- and habitually. In reference to the video gate scandal I think -- majority of people are missing the key point. That is the evidence only indicate that the patriots violated the NFL ball -- the game that occurred. On September ninth 2007 lawyer no concrete evidence exists just that they did all actions on any other or any other -- now. They picked the main hit off the field in Green Bay he put up a bank kept leaping from the tunnel apparently. Am --"

[1:11:18]" On the record by the way the -- right -- hearsay now I'll ask that Roger Goodell witty and an agent. -- find against -- fault for the patriot and when other teams come out and it happens. Did you want that ball through. The only difference. If the -- and fall through it would -- be irrelevant last we heard the bill that that it it would go over tapes out you know dated by the same guy Alcatel has paved total and you don't think it it was it was logical thing for Green Bay to say well yeah we kicked out the -- and we had -- that we know what he was joined by. We lost the game 35 nothing and right we didn't want to and Barrett on any further. Because I'm not -- law that. You know it was 35 nothing but I'll tell you want and I I I have keep ringing in my mind is when I read Tom opposing view every week Andy. Like this at least one guy who something on alliance of it was like they knew what we would -- right. Every week. Yeah actually my elite Kerry wrote at -- this week Kerry wrote that we al Harris -- against Green Bay. I mean every every single week went on the on line which is the -- my column. If I was writing it major part of thought that they they know coming evidently they did I I people long paragraph that says they were."

[1:12:37]" All -- and show our ignorance if we think there's a track record here whatever ball -- Finish up with this and it does nothing to tarnish the team's accomplishments on any other day in September ninth 2007 however if guilty I do believe the patriot should be punished. I believe draft pick in your mind are appropriate and possibly pension of that in -- individual from league games for a time. They repeat violation in the penalty should be increased my humble opinion -- in the -- I. I like your misguided because we haven't made up anything we act and I believe do you correct. When Michael Vick situation came now it was kind that are it is just and I'm afraid to say this book. Or that are coming now and only going to work loyalty loyalty compelling but I'll let you on in terms of Roger Goodell protecting his actual game the game of football -- contest that happen every Sunday. This has a greater effect on a league than any Micheal -- of killing dogs that tells me Michael Vick is a terrible human being he's involved with a lot of that up. But that doesn't affect what he does on the field on on days. Affects every game the patriots are in if they're cheating that affect the breath if your league -- people can bring into question what my watching his game on the topic like a referee cheating and think you don't know what the playing."

[1:13:52]" Field and I understand why did you feel like there's -- we all do. But the fact of the matter is it all fair game now. And don't want -- the unthinkable that that that the three Super Bowl titles were weren't on the open up but. They're all scary game now because this is not a one time thing. Well the not a one time thing and not our opinion that is not a one and -- fact that first Roger Goodell at a much right by -- is."

[1:14:21]" In the case that's been quick because people didn't want to be or loses the Green Bay crack Packard that's that's in picked dating -- about that day because of it they did it cheating. -- by that. After you know both Aaron and -- email me he tells me are at the beginning analyses by the funny when he wants me to jump into the middle wide variety by Eric and as the galleries that that he is the best in the business I'll say now always say it he is the best has correlated gone sour what -- them now holy Moses he spelled EO OO KO is it just me or has -- become the Fox News sports your show put that network to change your. You know I'm now a yes it was -- Then prejudge the debt with a little -- right now -- in the -- video video director is he's an ekeus who served as the patriot on the patriots video staff from 2001004 on -- for the -- and -- and -- You guys mentioned it was Brian Cabell who was with a -- last year who pointed draw out actually -- mentioned that I'd like to separate myself a little bit from that that was for. He's got more. Good standing with crap around here if he's not a genius you know man -- knew what was going on what is really going on here is entirely being pulled into pissing match between. Bill Belichick and ingenious why in the other teams that are now coming out in the pat did the same thing to them call pat. Out when the pat we're videotaping them last year is -- serve percentage of teams that are thinking oh. Kept out of the bag and I going ingenious and grumpy DP thanks for blowing if there."

[1:16:02]" Of us but hole. Well I just. I just that 14 now I think he's trying to -- there there was about -- I think some team is that want to come out that because that 80 some kinda colder so that it just that these guys are you bill. And how other teams like him. It'll hurt of that but I think it all -- the point about the green great thing. I think logical that when it was 35 nothing the last thing in the world he wanted to cry foul dejected about crime by the feel -- You know I knew they would join -- when it's all the -- before the start of the season not to do it. And here they are right here -- marching -- that we know that they do it and yet they are doing it right in front -- and that was probably too much and undertake more -- rumors possibility that they were set up by the competition committee because the competition committee which has endorsed the use of radio receivers -- of defense of player -- he's the -- situation -- forgetting the additional two votes to pass that rule. I think that I mean I think we could lead to that I think that could be a result at some point. -- that they don't have to use an -- like offense he has clear mountain top of the defense player but. I think we're getting beyond the issue here we think competition committee. He's adding up for -- reason why don't I I never goal that went on love it I know that I just I don't I think it opened. Just what is so bad about having the receiver. -- in the defense of players helmet anyways I don't really know the point of that fact that the problem they have with that it was limited to limiting it to one. And in Ponte and generally a lot of players on -- down a lot out of three -- players. And that was one of the issues that you know was brought up a guy like beyond you know run stopper on first down in the united. Nickel -- different items and that was quantity issues that they had I don't know that I that I know. Beyond and I could take all 32 teams from last year find at least one guy who never left the field every defense but to call him have to he had on. That that's one of those things drafting a trade date there's no reason that -- to Daniel can't say. 50 and then he let it cover to buy that it tackle could do an off. I think exactly what I am that they can think you're eager. If let him people EP will -- early but the competition committee is heading up the patriot league regular rule. We want to watch football -- all my -- that was all that much crap going on all I wanna watch or I'll blow that my whole point with all the I think you know I think earlier -- a lot of things that -- that like about watching the NFL in general because -- I want to know with a better you know -- about a player not. Put it better on the sideline. I don't when I don't like about a lot of like people in the -- Bo -- don't watch football coach I've ever watch football because. -- probably L I don't care about him I want the players play that's why why I agree deep from Winchester right"

[1:19:09]" and objectives dad with the patriots really cheating. That's -- come to a little kid might say that Tuesday that I want to throw mcpeek I don't want to -- cheaters. Could be I'm embarrassed by the patriots action of the past ten days Rodney Harrison cheater Leicester fans bell a check with the the Garrett mills a -- children. I absolutely don't buy the argument that all teams are doing it quote unquote I don't accept that when my teenagers as all the kids are doing it. If all the teams really are doing -- how -- the patriots apparently at the far end of the ends justify the -- spectrum haven't caught another -- how come -- the patriots repeatedly accused by Detroit Green -- and the -- I was not impressed with their strong denial that -- was going to New -- to -- the commissioner okay we -- over the phone. I hate. Thinking that though. -- this you will be darkened by the -- of cheating my 14 year old on like take to the game came to me yesterday and asked the patriot our team were really cheating -- I told him they were cheating. We have tickets for Sunday's game to get that are very expensive for us it's a big deal to go. And I really am not very excited about that right now. But now people want to come to games. People taking a lot harder that I originally I don't I can't I can't even begin I surprised him that you know what I haven't read once that -- In bill which for a how often we can get that emails and I've read. What point five emails at least they're ready not once have I read Rey he in -- do we trust and I think it's because -- to the beauty of it. You know we got we got off. Because we were being stupid. Right now the park okay I liked it or -- I don't know we might never have an answer but. They like I want to say the girl that they'd like okay 88 but don't use it right. I agree -- stupidity. -- celebration from one in Belfast Ireland and I. Just wondering if you guys what Broncos bill game did you see the celebrations of the Broncos after the game winning field goal. Was there any complaints by bill -- for the players because of the Broncos over the top celebrations on the bill Campbell in the middle of the field to take on a locker room I. I go on the heels locker after what I hear anything about that. I thought the patriot celebrations were quite similar -- Diego last year and probably just as optimal thing that was a playoff game and because the patriots were mask of underdogs I'm probably just by being here probably three point and probably drunk trying to just by our celebrations last year home grown close you can do you -- I think that chuck just complaint after the game last year. -- brought him back -- justify a where did you being losers on Rodney has and I got a problem with him taking it to keep it it is running back. -- at the expense of him missing one month I'll take it. I like that kind of thinking though that's always that thing. The players get back on the field -- they have to be or that new guy on ESPN commentator in the rave on the ravens -- game he would he's a clown if you Brian -- play calling. Great job guys as usual of the show. Who's talking about."

[1:22:22]" Run to a maybe which by the way colonels a guy even had time to talk about the camps I cannot believe."

[1:22:28]" They called although -- the ravens pedal on the one all terrible office workers I was terrible call but that was sport town I believe it and -- it -- what I a lot in the game like -- yard away I'll. Can't believe. Next email -- jurors what did you okay guy. This cheating thing doesn't add up for me -- we deal signal and Nomar would be triple cover -- we threw the ball to him I suppose we were laying the groundwork for the next game with the jets top. I wish they would then head coach for a few games on these situations instead of taking traffic this. I am glad we're back to the season schedule although now I will get even -- worked on during the week. The patriots look -- and and I hope they keep rolling elders of freaking idiot but I guess I'm. I am too because I hated the must deal when it was made it looks pretty good now that I equality QB throwing the ball to him I just hope -- day on the very narrow like the rest of the team like -- in the coaching -- That in. Email I on the other the punch line that was you know -- expect to 25. On it it's really the accounting did you -- not talking about them you know. Date date stole the cardinals to find out -- in my -- covered by now theoretically you don't know it would be blitzing and play at the time to every -- my run past the guys. The way -- in my front passed every defender in the league tried to cover on and -- and okay data stores Connecticut I really don't want to talk about the anymore because I'm getting -- to my stomach but the -- cheated they should be punished and punished severely. No argument from here. Why is our team being a scapegoat what about the dolphins admitted they were some. Did something similar again patriots last year that -- affected eating if we don't if we had won that game and had been 13 and three week. Maybe would have beat the cold. Went went -- bowl on one they admitted to it though why aren't they punished it affected the game playoff picture directly. Right maybe an adult -- but the league at all amenable. And I'm quoting -- after -- With the patriots at the top of this speculation stop using video and -- And the patriot we won against a team that knows that better than anybody. Did it did anyway and it last year too. They theoretically could have been doing it to Miami -- another thing about the cheating is that it make this isn't a total -- me I usually don't care what the what other people think. But they're going to be an asterisk next to our win now they are worth it. Winning is about everyone knowing in respecting your accomplishment this team is damned if they do and damned if they don't if they win their leader if they lose because of all these ridiculous traction our technology because they retreat. That's why things couldn't be worse and it almost makes you want the patriot to -- for awhile people forget about the black Mark. What you got now is that if they win their cheating if they lose because well I found out they touching it it it is the same thing it J Giambi. No home runs always the -- A home run again he's back on probably -- I -- a year or they know it got me that I similar it's one -- once you're there right it just ain't everything you've ever done or will do an a but I don't think there's anything unfair about I don't either. I can. -- check in guys can there be a silver lining to this taping candle now. It appeared that after the empresa win over the jets on on that everything was going too well for the patriots with -- and it wasn't on the -- projecting being paved and move. We've seen in the past that perhaps the team responds and -- better than the when the odds are that against them. Not that this in a back any tangible odds against patriots for the 2000 haven't season. But -- now have their proverbial chip on the shoulder to prove that they are still the best team in football. All know how it out of the patriot have to be that he's in. In order to prove to the public and the rest of the NFL that taping of the opposition's defense and signal data and will not provide them any significant advantage -- that's impossible. The more you win the more they're going to expect. You know that if this was people think it was on that and a they give it up the bill -- Jan when we come back from this break I'm going to rip you a new one for reading the first line of Jerry mail that I'm about to read the FW progress after this."

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[1:30:27]" Back here via study of progress my Mike was not on but now it is. Little -- were cruising group tons of emails as videogame 2000 sevenths I felt good at Gillette stadium. The entire new world the entire football world everyone is keeping an eye on what's going on. With the patriots dynasty built telecheck what commissioner Goodell is going to Levy in terms of punishment what do you think the punishment will be coming down Lee said by Friday. With his big men and he arsenal -- I gotta think it sooner yeah out tomorrow either tonight or tomorrow at some point. I've and it just laid off on the patriots fan I'm watching NFL network nonstop because no doubt in my mind at a at a younger -- you don't ever want to potentially story they're network is a perfect. Such a huge issue I want to coming from them I agreement you know items. Thank -- really -- I've -- Comcast and that network."

[1:31:17]" The last couple weeks I think in terms of issues regarding the commissioners -- really on he had the thing with -- you know. They believe it was happening and stuff like that in now turned the heat a little he's got to get back in the game I think pretty obvious as good or within the commissioner's office because he's been. At the thought I am commissioner -- la push their you know work to me -- network he's -- we can't say that Paul. We want people say that about our number is -- that the difference is Tom does -- get a lot of pitchers at that has nothing -- on the court now and I'm that being a good reporter and and cultivating sort of went up I'm talking about league matters. It does it it's me make that NFL dot com. And NFL network going to be at the forefront of the story okay this is Jean and -- Cooper got -- whatever it is is it to me -- pump all read and which now includes Indy but let it be -- he went to the comment away from being demoted and height of the kicker to the -- not here. And I was -- just demoted all the highlights from the jet -- game and just like everyone else I was impressed. I have. All I only had back to the highlight fighting -- player right which show up and that players Brandon Meriweather Saturday due to his regular season game and how much. Indeed he -- it Paul. Meriwether yes he played a dime packages yeah -- back. Didn't I don't think he got a ton of action especially early in the game. Didn't do anything really stuck up but I say among all the the the overly positive things happen in the game on Sunday. I don't know how much you guys elect his but I -- think -- on the occasions where. Pennington had time to throw. He generally got the ball to a -- open you know I don't think the secondary help in -- in the early when the patriots couldn't just go after and that had a lot of that whole game really whenever he got the -- complete -- and had a ton of time because that we had -- point which every screen -- they will be thrown in the whole game and right now yes well they were down 28 that -- The jet net scoring drive 2814 it would on the field nobody does that -- the one concern coming from that game is the guys -- why -- yet. There were guys that world kickoff return was baseball -- we can all that gave them the cushion to be at all go out and yet under. I I heard was stamped -- it's our game. I was at all all -- hurdle is how 408 yard kickoff return for a touchdown. Secondly do we all agree that the chargers did not only beat the bears 14 memory -- I think that if -- yet we're in the they did good challenge for the -- I'm implying the patriots will be the chargers this week 2414. But that is not my question my question is. Was did you hear that LT that after he was asked by report what he thought about -- buying on the -- he responded on the lines of the patriot motto is if you are not cheating. You're not doing it right you know trying yet and I believe I had a yeah earlier this week and we that we all her put that LT and over the top emotionally you know part of me and have all the stuff with the chargers and whatnot and I heard a couple of team. Shawne Merriman topped -- O'Neal not -- anything stupid. I'm glad about that I was -- that -- really really don't will win. Brett -- and then go back. Go back hey guys what about the buffalo game in 2003 buffalo 131 nothing and the next game was -- over buffalo 31 nothing. They may or may not have cheated. But now that we now have to look at those games -- John this guy. What about the patriots record for playing the same team twice in one he's -- why is -- that they almost never lose a second time. That's interest -- but I -- able to buffalo thing. I don't at the time they played them. He -- in the bottom -- the first game -- you don't -- on the last -- media -- the third game of the year was the -- thing I think that helped -- I think his point is they they could even hang out on the same -- them a -- side and then all of a -- the -- belong -- infield with them when maybe they -- one of the -- isn't completely like you could look back -- every game now in question. Why what -- I don't think cheating I am wondering the second the second time are counting up yesterday I think substituted -- Because they have chatter and that's why I had a thing about the NFC teams that -- that Belichick from the -- I think the confidence that -- Kelly crap reaction do you get W Robert craft and be a pretty straight shooter what do you think the odds are that he -- all the that it often how nothing new about this if crap one of the image of the organization in cares about the image of his players then he's going to have to act on top of the league punishment. To help men this wound to the league on a two on. Calling for that I have to do more than what the league does it makes it. The elders if he's firing all that's involved it's -- Whoever else is involved is important. He's the man that make the -- yeah I I agree with you I don't statement that -- topic comes up like that and I'm not I don't think it. That mr. -- it aptitude that do you mean do you think that he needs. I mean you get reprimanded. Look at embarrassment the organization. But you move on it it you know like you don't immediately release every player -- arrest. Or in a positive for drugs -- guy you know you know things happen whatever. And you're a situation like -- as a case by case and you you make a judgment. Every judgment you have is going to be right but. I don't think you have to statement about the depth fiery coach because Jason very checking in timeout for the love of god guys chill out everyone meet up with the conjecture and speculation and wait until the final ruling. All of these evil fans and turncoat need to jump off the patriots and be the bandwagon and find another team to four WTF is your loyalty. -- and hell Florida. -- likely that we're speaking of -- that they'll at him naked Asian and I don't think it'd be one of the patriots in. Are alike my point I don't like you know on the fact that you know the team that I'm rooting for -- I don't like the with what -- deal. Oh that this has nothing to do with loyal to loyal rob dinner -- al check in with the object by by bill. This is just what bill has or if if it is just what bill in the patriot needed to part ways after this season I couldn't have scripted it better. If I was named Gilbert I need to be be going to cost the giants after this season over -- in -- act and his daughter. And himself can have their family time together this is what I thought would happen a year ago and now it is."

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[1:39:02]" are -- Theodore checking in hi again I ask the doctor. That this is not a -- way to -- and this was blatant without any attempt to -- recording bill statement include the phrase videotaping procedure during last Sunday's game in my interpretation of the rules. Can you read the actual statement again not the memo. Doesn't say that you can't -- coaches for the specific purpose of doing I don't you think -- is interpreting that as that he is not taping or healing time for other reasons. C'mon come on speculate you guys are creative so what else would he be taping foreign how to be explained mr. Roger. I think he at all off the tape was confiscated in the first quarter not likely use in Sunday's game."

[1:39:43]" That's accurate but. We don't know what they've done in the past and out of going to speculate -- won the game -- because there are better. They were much -- it's a question along that thinking is what you're doing it against teams that they are much better than which would be the Packers -- they're probably doing it all the time they're doing it it's a track record a library they do this not just of that -- But to have that information I would think the hardest team to do -- beat -- right. Because an inning to align."

[1:40:14]" But I also think that the ailing defense I don't stood out illegalities and there are no offense and right column and partly that's why -- you believe me negative go to a voice."

[1:40:24]" In the now while I just made the comment that an -- Harrington do with winning or losing on Sunday I'll think that. The fact that you lose this this visual contact after the for a first quarter I don't think that means anything either I think that you if you have a base of knowledge --"

[1:40:40]" Could be relevant is that further I don't hear the jets game if they don't call -- a -- would do -- the outcry over the jet game to be his role. It how long have -- been -- it who David do it again that that they evaluate the bottom two. I figured the the NFL -- stop at the one game other team out of the woodwork that look at -- if they -- up the work James Kelly object in bill we trust. No -- I do not intend that be area if I have three ticket to the pat -- game count me among the -- no longer excited he might one game a year I subscribe to PFW and look forward to each issue. I all the coverage of the draft all the -- he's up and and I cannot wait for the season to finally start now this has really taken the wind out of the dale. I -- yesterday to friends that if a player get Bennett for using Roy HDH in the coach should get -- the reason players are not allowed to use Roy DTH and because that damages the integrity of the competition. This I think damages the integrity of the competition and -- in it really got me to hear about it. I'm glad my old on his only I coaches little league team -- kids that we do not cheat. If he was any older I would have to try to explain why the my -- much cheated. It was bad enough to have to answer to my wife when she asked if I thought they cheated I that yes they did that was all -- last night I didn't even want to talk about it. I hope to never happen here the -- in bill we trust again. Thanks for not resorting to being the official apology for the team on the PFW radio show the game. -- yeah ericsson -- Jane doesn't want to hear that phrase ever again. I had this. I'm really proud of our fans I'm shocked that -- central -- and and you know what we we make no bones about that it is written that there's hope yet to impress a lot of wild. I'm it was in two Internet radio deal about the patriot nearest non die -- and pounced on the amount and we've gotten really really. -- out of that you. If they and feel that way and a lot of people that do business with this team are. Corporate sponsor I -- what ecstatic I don't have someone can't I'll -- after that and there are people that by billboard in the stadium are those types of people that make the original with money going to be well. They only care about money and and I think yeah I think they want to be just attached to him but you know everybody is there any -- of while I'm attaching myself to a cheater I don't want to be -- ballots that are big enough. Not like -- Michael. I worry after that you know get away from the I don't think you can -- on somebody with a -- and it and it. Anywhere powerful in her -- here don't expect it not crap you know what I mean -- friend right 280 things that maybe pull him. Crap that ball Jim Devlin -- is a hypocrite I would be hard it would be hard to believe that Eric Mangini didn't know about. If it occurred while he was here he didn't blow to the -- is and he just as guilty he could benefit as evident by his rise and head coach after after all that regard him I think the answer that I feel defeated know about it. He did know about it -- Well based on Apple well what if we could find during a based on story that we heard it was in the daily news he did -- united if we could find. Are you managing to -- try to take down -- well he though do. Go to honor the 88 could -- other 88 you know while I don't if I have to be -- I don't care how would it take -- bill -- there's an element of that email that he you know he is guilty in -- away. Because he knew about it he was he was part of it. Thomas Bill Belichick. Thomas checked in amplifying it pat by with the faithful pat fans are taking it hard because of New England has a hard working mentality when someone -- None -- like. That's the great team now. Now we have -- weaver in bill I trust. I don't care they were cheating they shouldn't they shouldn't have been but if they did accept the consequences and stop doing it I'll I'll think they would he'll dominate and two of the top teams in the league where there without the advantage of videotaping call in or signal. The opposing team some of this is -- anti patriot people hoping to have any use for their team not being a good. People listen to the people on the shelf and I've kept stats Oakland we can and that perception being nationally but not not. Right I would I would -- of action -- of people want to -- it out for -- we worked for the team. And -- vault our R and I just that are generally die hard they why would they want the team to get taken at the ball I 30 think that the football -- they -- does that make any I wonder I wonder about some of the players have and how good they are here and based on what they were on the play. And why -- so good but I -- popped into my mind over the weekend -- and Robert from what are Georgia. My -- is devastated my on who can -- lives in greens patriots we needed his rooms pat his room pat -- an. And yes Tom Brady that had plastered on his wall he wears his great Jersey cool at least once a week. Last night he came downstairs and had the most pitiful look on base dad can you repaint my room he that in harper in April and had broken hearted. Okay coach what he's taking my and loyalty -- Now to I have to change scoreboard on TJ wall because I have all three course ovals on my youngest on. Bedroom Wall Street -- three or look -- of it's our fourth -- it is it one out and nothing you know whatever it is totally different ball -- vote for the cowboys Super Bowl but the margin. Victories will will later I'm and that it. Not that talk about Katie and Matt -- Please tell -- idiot defending the path to grow up the path -- cheated they are wrong these are the same people who think they're ready kids are wonderful you can do no wrong while they wear green and white tigers on the -- The reason I hate most people ignorant. I bet that you know we've had today I -- he and Tom Hamilton is medically I eight people John Quinlan disappointed I understand that all or at least most NFL teams are trying to get as much information about their opponents as they can't including defensive signal call. But to go this far this stupidly after being warned already is just -- I'm incredibly disappointed in the team and it -- particularly. Don't get me wrong I'll always be a fan of the team but there's breaks my heart. I thought -- much better of the team and was always so proud of how they did business in the image they tried to carry the culture Bob Kraft always talks about wanting for the franchise now I have a bad -- I love it when our team wins and yeah I'd be -- if we had season under 500. But I don't need to win this badly -- all the crap bands are now taking in general on general -- I that the team is taking in the news. I don't even feel like I have the standing to talk -- like I used to. Much for trusting bill. A night. Maybe next year the motion for a defense -- communication and like the offense has between the coaches and quarterbacks will pass failed to honor by -- vote. Really coming around on that bill we extra much for trusting bill era 13 out the patriots lose this weekend I'll blame you. -- casting a cloud over our victory and and now eight charger team bent on revenge. Rematch you guys are looking more like dolphins fans every week. -- who has I don't know right on Christian Mannelly I'm -- this has this got my girl asked me if they really cheated and I that they did she said. But they're so good -- they need to I -- that everyone in work. Know how much I think of the team and they have been coming up to me all day asking what's up this is crap as a diehard. I'm -- point. Maybe I'm naive but I put on with pride in the team and they are opposed. And -- oppose it on his way of doing things. In regards Christian."

[1:49:07]" Into her. It's been cheated on pins that are into worked up. I that that's all we got we don't like one guy to Brazil. Everyone else like that and that's -- we are right or right or are they from a little black. Country with a -- Like to the opposed jets' sideline Sunday oh somebody -- the link to the photo. That was -- or get that out financially as well that I all that too I thought on the patriot Nightline -- what I thought oh this picture of him on the -- minimize that while opening. I'll go to -- holy crap. Our boys -- and American Manchester I could care less -- done is done we are still going to kick butt on the field move on -- PNC -- we've got a game on Sunday. Eric I don't agree with you but -- I don't have a has worked for that like this you know -- and I haven't -- worse how word ward low some of the fans have to be kidding. They aren't excited about attending future game hello. They caught they got caught it's a good chance they will not be cheating with a video camera again. Heck if anything it means the games from now on will be on the up and up simply because a they got caught and beat the league off as we watching them closer than anyone. In bill we trust in -- he's not not be so stupid and arrogant again as to want break the rule. He -- we don't they let the browns settles him because they could move -- team a hundred years. Sporting things. Shame on you why you guys in the patriots under the bar -- doing everything they can to win for -- I know you're all not that 90. Maybe except for -- to believe that the patriots are the only team to videotape another team. This is the worst broadcast of your lives here today is making me physically ill -- kicking a dead horse. -- lot of -- a -- another -- and buried in -- Now aren't going back team and two I don't know that I mean -- on the line. Joining us and has always as you have to try to figure out he's the in studio or in his they meant where we now know he has his own."

[1:51:22]" You know I am where I am creating all of my evil plan in my laboratory illegal plans around here I would Bill Belichick these days what are they going to take -- obviously. I actually no cameras just little satellite TV but no cameras nothing that anybody else. You know -- of normal you know couldn't get anyway. You know here's really -- can look at it -- matches on the show yesterday and I'll repeated year. I think that Adam this whole situation is sort of akin to taking your wife to the beach -- you'd taken the beach. And even -- you -- at the beach with your wife and she may or may not be exactly what you know you're looking for at the beach but. I -- lookin' at things. Down the match right yeah I mean you're going to look at everybody does everybody does this just as valid yet ever you. It absolutely is true that you just me I'd want it hasn't that light look at look at their. Problem if you go Arafat -- it is just a few days I don't. I don't have that nobody has been I'm not -- I know her body into the -- all right he indicated that you take some credit to the beach. And you're still going to look because it's there. And it's exactly how this is going to happen up your taken. Topic when does it all on the -- what they've then you're an idiot and I think the patriots have. Just let's say middle little less than smart with this whole matter. Do you think they crossed into that idiot guy land. I think they crossed into landed which they did not need to go that the one what up. If I saw my wife he would understand why I wouldn't. All -- that wanna -- right. I think -- at a picture I think it. What do you got to you must have get lined up the commissioner I'm assuming maybe telecheck what you got to I would -- Johnson there's going to join us -- but don't yet rod absolutely you know let's -- right now camera. It took to mean it's -- Goody Kevin -- from the San Diego union Tribune is going to Jonas just a little bit obviously and covered the chargers. And we're going to get his perspective from you know from the from the left coast on how the chargers are looking at all and whether or not you know. Amman that are these -- to living in last January is lost and they need incentive to combat the patriots on Sunday -- basically both good that you're going to -- the game because we haven't talked more than 30 seconds about the game -- that was a bit -- we no longer -- honestly honestly I understand why that is I mean I know the fans -- to probably move on -- the game but this is -- humongous story -- and --"

[1:54:07]" at about it I was really prize -- the day I they we got live it every email for every one positive one was to hang. And yet just out to a point not even hammering to like this disappointment a let down while you almost like disillusionment well although how the team was."

[1:54:26]" Let me say this and Paula you know this guys all of this because you you your job is pro football you cover the sport. We all cover the sport you guys -- 365 days a year. In the here's the thing we all know that to some extent. Things like this are done by every team in the league to think otherwise is just being naive and or stupid. However the patriots in this particular races have just been they've been out there we don't know the paper like the thumb their nose at the supported establishment. We also know that the patriots in the past like sort of to bend the truth to their way of him things they put -- greatest PR spin. On -- in the comes out of Foxboro as any organization in professional sports has ever done I got to give them a lot of credit where that's concerned. But it also means that any time something that comes out of camp -- you know and I know anybody else that covers the team knows that we always raise an eyebrow -- whatever is dead. And it's based on track record as to why we raised an eyebrow which from the 70s we just flat out don't know. If they're -- the 110% absolute truth these guys will tell us what they think we need to know. That's exactly how it goes you know that's how it goes up and fans generally know that's how it goes over fans to say on disappointed I'm disillusioned oh what am I gonna turn two there is no justice -- more. Still loan me. Okay if somebody really feel like given the patriots were not your team to begin bull. Exactly how -- that. Couple hours and John you can simulate you know well that's it I don't care and bring it doesn't matter. I mean that beyond it to be quite honest you guys know this again as well as anybody else to cover this team this stuff goes on everywhere but it just made a misstep here they screwed up flaunting it. And maybe try to tweak Eric Mangini you know hasn't been used a camera which is legal by the NFL and -- and right and you can't do that and so -- in that regard then they certainly deserve what's common to them but this this really I -- does anybody really think that you know I was watching by the -- guys was watching Mark -- obvious the end you know gives his take in this thing. I wanted to reach of the camera and strangle. Because he's played in this league and he knows how difficult it really is. You know on to interpret signals much less intercept them and then turn I don't know enough time where you can actually use him to your benefit in a single game. But I don't want to for a single most stupid things I've ever heard from -- from a guy who played the sport but I'm."

[1:56:52]" Sure he's addressing a single game because we actually spoke with him earlier in the week and he addressed that when he was with Washington they were able to do this and if it didn't work for a single game it would work down the -- going to play the scene a second time cycling teams agree he's well we know the patriots -- play the -- again because --"

[1:57:08]" I -- so precisely and green. I agree that it and that's exactly -- correct if you actually go one out there and being played enough to. I had another team try to Steelers signal you know getting any benefit out of it for that game that -- doing -- spying that's something that's on down the remote sober people listen to. You know in and for these -- golf fans who whom you know rightly on the message boards and on its board Michelle well now know how many people about the -- you know date -- needed. The biggest budget crap out of hurt you can't turn it around quick enough in order to use it for that game."

[1:57:43]" I don't know how long I guess I'm what you -- do it I am. I I don't think there's any you know why would why would the best -- join Green Bay and in Detroit last year not going to meet in the years I think it was a tangible benefits -- doing it otherwise it would have been doing it."

[1:57:59]" I don't -- important noticed -- last nobody has checked doesn't do stuff to do it Nadal might the united he'd get it out. May be -- we don't know what that advantage was it will never know what specific advantage was four. Maybe buying on Green -- or maybe -- on Detroit but asked mr. -- who handled you know communications for sidelines on the time how difficult it really is -- you know every -- I didn't security. Leading -- what with the radio club frequent it would Gary you know what he understands how difficult it is. To be able to I don't know -- I -- there you go against a lot of defending to do I think what got him as today and in the next hour you can tell us how Gary predict he was a big part of -- yeah. I don't know if you want to get email and thank you Catherine below why I'm going to leave you with the new York daily news story. Which include -- about how Eric Mangini and the -- caught the patriot and in fact this was something they've been keeping an eye on he got there and going to be very at that. Oh yeah and told so all of that next hour from John basement with patriot like oh that's going to repeat FW progress."