Patriots Playbook - 9/20/2007

[0:00]" It's no I'm going out dolphins -- want to go -- five. That they've won fair -- excuse patriots -- got back on how. Breaking down last Sunday's game. Well next Sunday is here ready for the break. The rest of the 2000. And some of the plug stuff in between. Can we do up thicker playbook award Thursday. It is -- three for the practice they get set for the Buffalo Bills this Sunday here the last 1 PM eastern time -- money with John brook. We welcome you have a program on third base. The agenda usually breaks down like that I think usually because you never know what things would change. But on Thursday it is getting usually goes like this. Particularly males who scored prediction for Sunday's game that got some thoughts on just what you'd think the score. Might -- could be should be. Between the patriots have built on Sunday fireball heartless corporate involvement of the radio at patriots dot com get a -- now if we get them going. And that we usually do have bomb interviews lineup for the day as well which we do here the conference calls. With the Buffalo Bills with Dick Jauron head coach it was Marshawn Lynch their rookie running back that's upcoming in the program in approximately 40 --"

[1:52]" It's Russell Baxter from ESP and their medical research coordinator. Will join us to look at the pats bills and look at week three around the entire national what style he's gone -- Is there any reason why that play again here if scary. The patriots -- Breaking down and reason -- that play again. On the what you. Thank you are I was on the phone obviously a real is that you know people -- have the worker here -- try to get. 18 things done it wants that oh artists were the guys I know stuff happens anyway. The ticket for today the other thing that we have -- going on today is sort of a recurrence from what we are started yesterday if you missed yesterday's program I've completely and totally and admittedly stolen idea from the Boston Herald which is fine you know hey we gave ample credit for this right palm. But that would I was out newspaper article written on Wednesday talking about you know trying to come -- some kind of a moniker some kind of a nick."

[2:58]" Name the -- business suddenly potent patriots offense and we had a lot of great ideas probably had well over 30. Aren't ideas E mailed into us. -- remained in more than that. Who are still some emails here that we didn't get to from yesterday that I will get to today you know once again the -- thing -- I do promise with the -- is really good about this as well -- PFW progress. But him he read your emails. Sometimes and it's only read here. But sometimes we don't get them on simple because of the number of emails because we have of things to get to an in this program we to have gets to get to. We always read them even if we don't get them on the -- I do the best that I can to get the money because quite frankly I think many view -- great points. You're here because you're informed and you want to stay informed. Now in in get the latest on you know your football team -- on the patriots in particular at least. You know even if they're not your football team -- we do get some opposing fans tune in from time to time when it's their patriot game week and it's great we appreciate it we're glad that you blow logged on and sampled a little bit and -- look for you to participate in the show which he -- mail and know your telephone calls that's why we're here however. I did just that I can't get a call on the year and especially wanted to good point. In -- brings up an issue that may be we didn't consider when it comes down to a particular topic that we're talking about what that we're going to do harvesting you know on the year and that's what we're going to do here today as well. So while web radio at patriots dot com email address. You need is an -- score predictions for Sunday by the white. I don't know right up top. Here but I don't remember the last time the patriots were favored by as much as 16 and a half a football game do you. Does anybody remember the last time they were favored by this much. In a football game and let me take that a step further does anybody recall the last on the pages were favored by this much and -- division game. Because I do not. I -- this franchise and an associate with this team now this is my 15 season. And quite frankly over the east 15 year previous 14 years -- this I do not remember. Ever having this largest spread this large a patriots spread favored. I think I recall one -- two times perhaps that they were an underdog but never never. Have I recalled they were -- but this much especially over a divisional opponent. Patriots again have never gone undefeated under -- you know is as good as it's been three Super Bowls in six years they have never gone undefeated within the division in a year so quite honestly I think this is something we're talking about today. It is a rare feat and it's just going to go wished right over bodies had Kalus would bring it up here but I think it's of the we're talking about is that it shows you. Number one how difficult it is. To win in your division when you play these other guys twice. And prepare to beat somebody twice this season is difficult to do I realize overall record is 30 wins nine losses over the last few years within division but they have never gone through completely undefeated part to do. I'm not saying that means that the losses want to come this Sunday to say that it's hard to do."

[6:12]" So what like your thoughts on that your score predictions for Sunday as well and here's where we need you to vote. As we suggested on yesterday's show I have 67 candidates seven candidates for a nickname for the patriots offense. And this is an older respectable ones that -- we got late yesterday. A couple of kind of funny in if you want to ride in of the boat that you may write in your vote. I would allow you to do that we get enough sentiment for a particular write in vote today and that's the one that will go. But at the end of the program dilemma keep below the running tally here's to you need to release and all the emails. K I mean and even if you want to go to somebody else's email address and vote for the same thing twice fine I don't care to send in the votes right. Here's the suggestion to you on. Whichever one does win here I have kept the emails from yesterday writes I know who sent in which candidates. Then I'm going to pass this on us is adjusted referred her shift them a pass does not afraid he's going to work it into a piece of W upcoming issue. -- going to refer to the patriots offense by this nickname will pass on the selection as well two patriots PR staff and let's see if it catches on. Talkative amongst your friends your your your fellow fans you can have full credit for this idea if of course it is your idea. And we'll see of the catches on -- why not let's have some on this -- this because this could be one of those seasons to remember not. It could make. And if it isn't it turns out to big one of those let's let's -- the front end of the learning curve here right. Let's let's let's start the bandwagon rolling just will be and I think this is -- to be a fun thing that it we will still look at the -- all the issues and talk about all the negatives as well as a positive and we'll talk that the teams on both sides you'll hear from the players and the coaches all of that what we normally do in the playbook but. -- hasn't won two it is football after all life's too short let's have some fun. And let's get those creative juices flow. -- here are your candidates are kids here are your candidates that I have right now I have seven candidates."

[8:21]" And if you have a late write in candidate you may do so web radio at patriots dot com. The telephone number 585437482 aren't first candidate is and I these -- once you're gonna vote on to with a July do you dislike actually just vote for your favorite one that's the easiest way to go here. And we need your emails to start pouring in here the first when his arm BMW for Brady moss Welker"

[8:50]" which I candlelight I think who prior to play an -- little bit and say BMW slums of the like precision offense the BMW precision offense like -- adequately Cuellar on their better. -- sponsor -- well but you know what I'm doing as I'm opening up -- of the marketing opportunity for so. It exclusive rights no. What haven't afford acoustic look at Christina -- Toyota tundra. And -- it would tundra. Does not Christina doesn't happen to advertise well anyway BMW precision offense Brady's bombers. That's another one BB these guns which I have little like personally BB gun that's clever rolling thunder. Mrs. another personal favorite although I don't think this will catch on with a marketing folks the wicked this sets."

[9:48]" That's the public but it's a Boston that's excellent totaling the -- in the Boston -- deep deep party. T being EA Boston TV party. Firing squad. -- patriots the firing squad. So there with a seven that I have somebody also sent in patriot missiles that but not -- Europe that would go over real well considering past history -- this prejudice but anyway gotta -- chuckle out of that thanked him in Dallas group but I want. The patriot missiles to -- to explain about that on okay didn't think so so it would there are your candidates for the offense is nickname. Send me your favorites in Europe for which ones you like and we'll repeat this periodically through the program today for those that may be logging in late or not knowing what's going on what we're talking about but again voting on the nickname for the patriots offense BMW present your offense birdies on Laura Davies guns rolling thunder -- says. Boston TV party firing squad. Those the ones that made the cut from yesterday web radio at patriots dot com tell me which one you'd like 5 wait 5437482 will keep it updated all right arm. Was doing it has some of these emails that you took the time to do get into and for those that -- did not get a chance to get -- read or discussed during POW. In progress today on we will get have Russell Baxter coming up in about. 30 minutes. And then in the second our program today will hear from a picture on buffalo. And a Marshawn Lynch via bills rookie running back on comfortably in the program in the course of time permitting will also get cute to a patriots coach Bill Belichick. All this one comes from raised his first time writing into the show. This episode a fantastic job because do bringing in vote of the fans of the patriots is one point don't then I'm talking about a 16 of season should -- be saying 19 announced. It forget about a little thing called the playoffs and -- technically -- you're right but I think so much emphasis was put on the fact that the dolphins. Went 14 you know the regular season one through 12 games it was 70 you know two overall yes I think we realize it should be ultimately 19 you know. But nobody's completed an undefeated regular seasons as those very same 72 dolphins so you gotta win the 16 before you get to the -- thing he says it's just -- putting names simple onto the point these Super Bowl expressed. Or how about the everybody scores offense. There enough consider them written and -- thank you email. It's an editorial comment from -- Hideki at Minnesota. I think we said this obviously that razor precision one game at a time this is from gain in north star north you Armas main. Guys are really like your coverage of video game this past week -- so I think the military is still the best coach of all time regardless of whatever videotapes he has compiled of opposing coaches. You mentioned that a prominent Boston athlete was decline of pharmacy that got busted for steroid distribution. This doesn't bother me at all. I accept almost all athletes are doing something to gain a competitive advantage. Whether its steroids HG -- whatever I would only be disappointed of the simply turn to -- Tom Brady is he is my favorite athlete would want his legacy to be punished. Well then why then would you care -- the patriot. Would have is like starched. Mean he still on the same team as the patriot is Tom Brady. I don't quite understand that reasoning out of more important note a bit surprised -- how well spoken friend has been lately the last few episodes of U of W progress and noticed that not only understand it what Fred is trying to say agree a lot of it. That says more about you. What about me about him off but -- E mailer is agreeing with frisk. Okay we will leave enough Cedric alms Roger sends. Maybe it's late but I have a few more offense beat these babies on -- BBs wrecking crew. Thank you Roger let's see we have. Joyce in drake at Massachusetts who says by suggested nickname of the offense would be -- offense of mass destruction. We also had that is as a suggestion yesterday weapons of mass destruction WB on the WMD patriot offense weapons of mass destruction. So she says oh MD. Weapons of mass destruction does accurately describe the team major impact of the contribution made by the align the blockers is cool is Brady. In his offensive weapons all kinds of mass destruction better describe the effect the entire unit has on our ability to score. They usually appreciate that. Com Shannon want -- here from which Hampshire Sawyer has no problem with that long offseason here in west out west got -- went where we are flipped completely totally truck up. Shannon and -- here everything's okay get it under -- Nokia. Get -- but you know jeez they -- media the on anyways exactly bobbled bludgeoned as the horse outside at Gillette stadium. Can't wait to next season we finally stop hearing about the cheating BS and put this dead horse to rest. Will hear about it during the game again this week next Monday night next jets -- started -- two weeks part of a suitable during the Super Bowl and finally over and during the late draft. Good grief Charlie brown but you know what Gregg -- is the pats look like -- there I think test. Please -- Ellis Hobbs that the -- can kiss my white shiny but Iowa State is departure of pig farmers wearing -- clown suits who get lucky if -- not give it to beat Iowa. Go -- guys but more importantly go patriots keep up the good -- a good work Ellis no hard feelings you pig farmer you. While option to you know show little emotion in your emails right good to hear from you again -- take it easy. From -- and Panama City, Florida guys started listening to the program last week what linebacker has the longest remaining contract. And for how long how long do you think Teddy Rodney in for able will wait to retire. -- remaining contract linebacker wise -- again I'm going off the top of my head because they don't really do a whole lot of contract revealing here. Around these parts and have you been around the stretch as the followed a very long. For J Judy that you know that they -- not too terribly relieved revealing my guess -- after the -- is Thomas. Asked because he's the new one in. On that that has to -- and how long do I think Teddy -- and -- will wait to retire. They will retire whenever they feel like they can't go anymore each player has said as such whenever they feel like they cannot sufficiently contribute to the program. They'll move -- Now Teddy obviously couple years -- went -- his stroke on you would like think that he might be a little bit more willing to pull the trigger Rodney. They really depends on how he comes back when he does come back from suspension. Vrabel has given no hints at all as to his readiness or willingness to retire and the -- the patriots have helped themselves with depth. In the line backing core in the way that they play their system nobody has to stay out there for -- even to a three series in a row you know that's going to elongated that's going to lengthen these -- career. You know. They can stay on as long as they want it may not be the answer that you wanted to hear but honestly probably anybody think about that right now. It's as I gave 21 points on the chargers game for 41 odds. It did well. Future did there -- few sure things in sports but it last week was and so was Holyfield Tyson won would you object -- job buddy you. From Sam from Denmark hello Sam talking about hypothetical replacement for BB. I don't know why would be talking about that would norm shall be a possibility is probably a bit old in my opinion. But he is charities that -- that a lot of business in China on the other hand how about -- Daniels. Well look if -- believing what Gregg easterbrook and I'm guessing that's what you're talking about his column. -- been dot com which is actually one of the biggest bunches of nonsense that I've ever read in my entire life I don't like Gregg easterbrook to begin with I didn't like human it was a columnist on NFL dot com and I think he knows. Less about football than most columnists slash bloggers out there. Honestly he stir in dirt and he's doing it just to be contrarian here so please understand that Bill Belichick in it's been reported not only here but in the Boston media as well and put out national last week and is partly -- contract extension through 2013 so."

[18:32]" Where's he going and who's going to letting go. And the second you know letting -- don't think permitted that he does -- get snapped up. So quit the nonsense okay. Quit the nonsense on Thomas says belichick's boy he's a BO YZ. Randy -- locker room interview he would not be happy until he was out there with the bullies VO YZ so -- always that's that's close that's a little hip you know I can understand that that's why I think my personal favorite is bee -- guns. Because everybody an offense is potentially a weapon. All guns and BB is obviously you'll support for Bill Belichick and course beat he's gone is a play on a BB gun. So that's my own personal favorite that the woman I'm voting for you of course can go where your own if you don't like don't Boris says after two games without Seymour you're ready to call him an overrated overpaid defensive end. As -- in my opinion Boris I think the jury is still out but it is not looking good. What are you talking about Boris why in the world are you talking about what are you looking. Richard Seymour is a pro bowl player. What this shows is that the patriots have depth and talent on the defensive front. Please what do you mean the jury's still out god wants his ability to play well that you don't know much about football Matt says fans and media perception of what Pat's got caught don't always in media a -- to check it out later -- thank you arm David. From the Philippines -- we've kind of hit the the the run the gamut here on world locations we had the Bogota Colombia checked in yesterday with the Philippines we've had Denmark. The benefit of the world wide web like everywhere I guess that's true because that's what world right anyway he -- guys regarding Samuel not starting. They don't have anything to do -- Samuel at all maybe it's more of our reward for Randall -- for playing well for this year. Besides every bit of experience gig as -- make him that much better him out get hurt. This is true but I do believe that it simply because Sammy who came in late and he still has to get into football playing -- he missed all of training camp he -- do all the work -- that you want to one year old it is not the same. It's going to him. It is not the same -- getting reps and putting your pads in trading blows with the receivers the running backs or anybody else not the same. Nice catching up rather quickly."

[21:19]" It's probably a little bit of both won because they like Randall gay when he burst onto the scene a couple of years ago and and played for the Super Bowl team. And of course he's been hurt. As a he's ever an opportunity stepped back into his role because there's an opportunity there the opportunity presented itself was a saudis and it wasn't here. Now that sandals back they -- made the most angles that are in the time I think that's a fair way to do it. Calm -- in New Jersey. Speaking of the NFL on HBO last night is there any history between Hollandsworth in the patriots and or balance I mean. He was ridiculously harsh on the whole football in America per game on Sunday. Well it says here -- was the only one of the panel who -- want to let the whole -- gate thing drop. On Reno and Carter were talking about. The -- San Diego's Andy in England game itself and the patriots team league -- was a bad mood making several almost under his -- comments about videotape. And other should be further investigation of the patriots a team liking defensive players. I am not aware that there is any history and the fact that he played for Cincinnati and military coach Cleveland I don't know. I'm not aware that there's any history I think that Chris Collins were primarily. And this is without his comments one way or the other on the patriots. You know I think he was very good wide receiver when he played I think mostly he's -- sanctimonious pompous ass on the radio on the television. You know any sets himself to be you know all knowing at all scene and you know I don't really haven't used Chris Collins were. You know if you're going if you're going to purport to be an analyst. And or an expert and you -- an ex player than you better bring some serious shall I say. Expertise into the -- it into the discussion. He doesn't really do that he complains he whines. He says something is bad and it doesn't generally generally not all the time but generally does not back it up listen to the guy if you can stand it listened to a it just comes across the sanctimonious and pulled himself he doesn't come across is a likable guy on the air at all. -- Tiki Barber may be be may be full crap. You know in his early reviews are that you know he's certainly in not shy about you know speaking his mind but -- comes across as a likable guy."

[23:43]" I don't know why he's just got that certain some some college or doesn't have that. -- comes crossed me his pencil necked geek."

[23:55]" Obviously thoughts and maybe he does have a grudge I don't know. But that you know for him to suggest that should be further investigation of the patriots is ludicrous. If you're going to further investigate the patriots as we've discussed on this program we discussed -- patriots dot com radio and has been discussed many many other times it's certainly talk shows around New England. You know you wondered you know put the patriots -- the microscope any further you gotta put the rest of the league under the microscope. I think the league has got to begin understanding that."

[24:25]" And I think they do and they might just -- that but the patriots aren't the only ones because there's been so much talk about other teams. They would not be doing their duty to be derelict in those duties if they didn't look at somebody else. As I said I am a firm believer in where there's smoke there's fire."

[24:45]" I personally think Chris Collins -- the got something that's just me I tune in late I don't know if you guys cover this -- not yes that's the article Gregg easterbrook okay thank you Jose he says that. Easterbrook says that. Belichick is -- the NFL he won't last the year. If further investigation finds that the patriots cheated during the Super Bowl it'll destroy the -- game and make it lose popularity oh we checked it out thank you it was and it's nothing but complete and utter trash I suggest that you right -- Ellen. -- you writing for specific reason to get under our skin and to be a contrary and that's what a lot of columnists do. Lot of columnists write garbage to be a picture so you will write it so you'll read their stuff. So we'll talk about it. I'm not tired anymore because it's it's it's trash a dollar let's race it is a prediction in for this Sunday. The superbowl expresses next stop will be 46 to 12 on Sunday against buffalo it's a race in in his email and you score prediction 46 to 12. Thank you Sean. He says that got a name for the pats the -- silver -- reply over the Coors beer commercial or Big Blue or Big Blue train. Okay fair enough thank you show on. Beat these guns rocks says Stephanie thank you Stephanie says patriot fan living in packer land. That's what you want from the hinterlands of Green Bay today. Appreciate that deputy thank you very much that's a good one we have another vote for BB guns that's good offense nickname the source Ted I should say. From Franklin mass says sorry I still like the Brady Bunch. And shoot the that in their that's been done I -- that I understand everybody likes Brady's bunch or whatever because -- a player on the sitcom but. I don't know"

[26:42]" I just that I get this vision of the Marcia Marcia Marcia retirement here today you know and while that's not necessarily a bad thing that they. Most people most men my age had a crush on her. Maureen what was the last name Carmen McCormick thank -- most people my age most males might get a crushed a Maureen McCormack back in the 70s. It you know you did he had just or whether it actually coming out with a book called here's story. Didn't she and Barry Williams or barely think Burton and she spurn him as a very leaves an affair with points Anderson something like that. I'm sure that Maureen we'll discuss that in her book only arm. I know you're too young you know now. Shouldn't of course there. On there -- Williams yeah I saw the movie they even remotely on -- you know what was really like the Brady -- and that. You know Barry Williams did ask you know ward Anderson -- They apparently for brief while even though she's -- to be his mom. It was his age. Actually an easier to older I'm Maureen McCormick -- it is your to accurately should be close to thank you. Arm okay anyway -- is still like Brady Bunch it's about sweeping the division yes it is tough to do but. Winningest Super Bowl is tough to do before 2001 the patriots -- not done that either. And how about winning 20 wanted to row you'd think that would be tough for the sweeping your division paid to that went to yesterday but they have not swept the division -- in a year. So exactly tell you how tough that is did you. They've done any other things they haven't done that one thing. As -- they've got to win this weekend in order to be able to again take the next step towards sweeping the division in a single year tough to do. Brian in buffalo Bryant. Thanks appreciate it he says he thinks the bills went. Score prediction 20 to 16 bills we would expect nothing less from someone buffalo but I took part of the conversation. He says I think the -- long ball moss will be taken out by the -- defects -- lot of solid game running with the bills being such an underdog will give them an -- to win. Those -- the least expectations should be feared the most. Bill special teams along with -- lynch and read an Evans will test the patriots number one -- For those -- think I'm crazy two games are not enough to start any bandwagon bills of the number one up that team who can -- one week. And destroy the next remember 31 nothing against the pats bills home opener yeah. We all remember that. And going to happen as we go -- but thanks for Germany in any. They want bright -- this is this is okay I'll make it the I don't know it was sort cut you deal here right. Personable yet realize the spread of 16 and a half. I asked the question all the top program does anybody remember the last time the patriots were favored by anybody much less events a division opponent. By that much -- a single -- I don't remember -- in the 15 years that I've been with his team. Don't remember -- ought to be significant enough number one number two I would tell you the patriots will have a hard time covering desperate. I realize all the POWs guys went one way -- the papers in the points. I think it will be difficult for the papers to cover the spread and if I were a betting man I'm not but if I were I would tend to take the bills in the points in this one just because of the enormity of the spread a lot of things have to happen. A lot of things have to happen right the papers to be optical astronomy talk about two touchdowns and a field goal. He got to be -- 17 nothing before you're even."

[30:19]" That's a lot. And the the buildup to turn the ball over the -- probably have to get a special teams win may be an -- defensive touchdown in order to make something like that happen. So you know I'm -- I'm kind of attendant to lean toward you know the bills at that particular regard. I do think the patriots will win the game I'm not sure sure about the cover. Anyway Bryant I appreciate your taking via an opportunity and having the correct right into programming given that your prediction of the bills. 20 patriots 16 on Sunday John. In Toronto says pat double fisted mean machine. For the offense and he fans got a lot of right in here but all the votes around other nicknames Thomas since -- his prediction bill 17 -- 38. Excellent job excellent job and -- Thomas also since Brady's long balls. Case in the Maroney Jersey I can afford it or you I -- or me we can afford no leaders on the called patriots pro shop dot com. On the like that here on the -- said the eagle right to get that Jersey yourself sure that the that's possible. Bomb Howard in Orange Connecticut until -- Gillette isn't spelled correctly that's that I like Brady's farmers and BB guns. As for this week -- what she says 42 to ten as his score prediction. As the little juggernaut rolls on -- over the Buffalo Bills I still believe the -- in the divisional most likely occur in Miami if that happens at all. Other bombs colts Steelers may be the ravens but not likely they just can't score points with that offense regardless of who is the quarterback that's actually correct art weak middle of the time -- program talk and actually Tuesday programs specifically talking about where you think. The potential Pratt -- could come on the schedule. And the general consensus was there -- two spot for the first month but eventually but the the first one. Are there some sentiment for obviously -- six at Miami simple because of the whole thing that led us to today scholarship. And that is of course you know what was the last time you know the patriots had never. Had never been undefeated in within the division who was the last and they were favored by the mature division -- From so it could come at Miami has quite frankly the papers traditionally historically have problems in Miami no matter how good or bad. The dolphins -- You know one I don't if you follow this team relate that I'm you know that to be fact."

[33:01]" Bill of course wouldn't -- week ten against the colts on November the fourth. But those the two most likely stumbling blocks if they get by Miami a couple of weeks then. Obviously I think they can get all the -- him in the political scheme nominal thing I don't think about the hype. Think about -- that week. The NFL we Benson on it. Will be Danson on yielding dance not that everybody will be dance on it. Talking about it being a potential you know AFC championship game preview -- isn't it a shame this couldn't be the real Super Bowl -- is clearly these -- the two best teams in the NFL this year in all that kind of stuff. That will be huge there's a very good chance that we get to that point and that the losers going to have its first blemish."

[33:44]" I think that not -- possibility it's likely but there are couple spots for both teams as we talked about that they could conceivably. Take a little bump in the road before. Howard thank you nicknames -- and his. Votes that David -- Huntington Beach, California says nicknames -- guns is definitely the best submission. The like do like the oh in the improvement in my WMD suggestion from yesterday. -- of mass destruction. As opposed to WMD. Weapons of mass destruction yes I'd like to make a push for the push for the perfect warmup. Defensive nickname that may -- came up with yesterday I thought that was great regionally appropriate and -- Right why given much thought to the fans and quite frankly that is because right now the defense is still at a state of flux until we get guys like Seymour and terrorism back on -- ball. But we go ahead and start talking about the perfect warm as a good. Obviously -- appropriate thing on the he'll play on words of the movie perfect storm about the Gloucester fisherman so yeah yeah -- George Clooney. Ken says -- score 21 patriots three bills if the chargers make the red zone twice the bills won't make it in more than once. And they won't score a touchdown off of they know what the score is closes at the patriots are playing their second team in positions. All the bills are better than they've been given credit for being they did give Denver game. But I also believe that because Denver is a little overrated and Schobel get does give Brady problems we talk about that yesterday with them. Mark els who's on the bills radio network here and that we did. We did stressed that Aaron Schobel is Tom -- perhaps worst nemesis. All the respect Jason Taylor Miami I think the other that the patriots have as much problem if not more problem with a guy like Schobel try to block him as they do what Jason Taylor however Ken says the spread will be covered in the paper it will never be in danger of losing the game. It was his 21 victory on collins' -- He is a self righteous ass -- exact almost -- technical -- pompous ass is anything close to self righteous -- Pompous self -- it's fairly fairly close right again yeah I think he can beat -- Anyway on Kansas I've never liked him he always -- anyone involved in any sort of controversy and rarely says anything intelligent illusion just get off TV couldn't agree more. Couldn't agree more when you start whining. -- your usefulness as an analyst is over. And believe you me there -- several other athletes ex football players that do at least as good if not better job that Chris Collins worth. Chris -- an element. Frankly I'm going to wager that many if you were listening to this program right now don't remember him much as a player I do because I'm old enough. Jason do you remember Chris Collins where -- a player Cincinnati. Okay -- said. McNabb comment just like they -- it was spike gave the media made way too much of a big deal out of McNabb statements like don't really agree with his point of view. I do agree with him when he said that the media took him out of context in -- with the of them talk about them. McNabb talking about how black quarterbacks have a tougher time the white quarterbacks and ability to see that he mentioned that on them HBO's. I was going to bring -- children -- anyway oh win the media settled down and stop over sensationalize and things. Incensed when it at gunpoint robbery in Vegas like OJ Simpson deserved point 47 coverage for an entire week well. I understand a bit about that -- but OJ Simpson is a larger than life individual. And I think he sometimes does feel the need to get exposure to get. Something go inference of any kind of runs sick is that maybe I think he's one of those you know -- six narcissistic people. Calm that. Likes the spotlight. In rebels in. No matter the no matter the situation. Thank you for the commons can and he does that would put -- for a BBs guns mum."

[38:01]" Here we deal thomas' I'd go for wicked this patriots. Is is hey how about a gift that approach this -- angling for free stuff here up that. Thomas I mean you know according to your your your signature on your email here says that you're an analyst for integrated defense logistics course anywhere but you know. Come on you got to make -- big bucks some problem. I unfortunately am not I am not charged with the ability here towards somebody with you know that the winning. Name here a free yesterday here in like that that's enough to make a might be able to -- you know that the winner -- free subscription POW. But I put that with the you know with her first. Because he's the boss. Arm Marty says John. Are you look at the name for the entire team or just the offense guns sounded sounds like it's just the office that's it we are talking about. The balanced team offense and -- how about. They call themselves a family probably stick together why not simply BBs boys. Why don't really consider just the team that thought maybe this is an opportunity to sort of you know marketing particular aspect of the team to have some fun with the fact that. I'm not swisher right now that there is because that can stop -- they can stop themselves on occasion but we don't want to talk starts to -- around we've heard this of the first couple weeks here that talks hitters around giving opposing on. Defensive coordinators nightmares. I think the focus really is -- on the offense for now anyway what is the -- earlier today. Beat he's gonna still be my nick. Right all the things you state that had happened the past to cover the spread did you not see them happen last Sunday night. That's 42 bills 17 absolutely it you -- I saw. This just because they -- last week though doesn't mean they're going to happen this week whether the opponent is inferior or not -- mean c'mon. If your play football -- you know that you know things change from week to week it does not matter. That's why you play the game. Because it just simply doesn't matter who it is things can change you know from week to week and really the opponent doesn't matter. Who knows how charged up the bills will be who knows the patriots. Somehow -- don't don't have to think caps on leave the ball on the ground. Or maybe they you know they get a pass picked off I mean things change it doesn't matter the -- during the opponent. The NFL is balanced period I mean the bills don't look to be pretty good don't it will be good at all on offense right now. But you know if you throw one away we get a team good field position in the take advantage of a mistake which of course you can make because you're human after all. Anybody can take advantage. He just because the patriots ran all over San Diego last week it doesn't necessarily mean they will run all over buffalo although. The oddsmakers seem to think that right now based on previous performance that that's all you have to -- the odds on. Previous performance. And I think 17 points is just a tremendous spread. You don't see many games like -- you just don't. Let's talk a little numbers -- Russell Baxter who is via NFL research coordinator for ESPN joined us now as he does each every Thursday Russell was the last time you saw spread. That large especially an intra divisional game. 17 points though."

[41:30]" No way I do rack my brain wanted to divisional game I remember what -- two years ago -- DiFrancesco it was a pretty IE. Spray it which turned out to be -- first start fairly large spread the superbowl would Sampras is completed a year ago but that that is yeah that's that is so strictly based on what the patriots have come out of the gate and the build -- struggle to put points on the board of course I think being in Foxborough you can do you know. Actually you know I it would probably be even more terrorists and John is is how good the point spread would be. With the patriots against the rest of the AFC east this week yeah. You know only needed if you look at it -- guess we're having fun with numbers look like we always been the -- that that is scored 76 pointed to. Right -- 2 right there wretched division scored -- seven point 26 games. There was six total right so. Maybe that's what this is a big pizza based suspected. People are put much stock in it to division but I I urge -- Your comments is just that I was coming on and so on and it doesn't take long in this week to put the ball on the ground to a three times. And all the -- the game get away from regardless of where the game displayed. Case in point. Carolina Panthers lest -- it's these protected right Cruz and a 14 -- before they knew they were down by 20. Which was shocking by the guys -- what does people like Houston -- an improved team would actually pick and secondly if he's out in the very intriguing game. With the colts this week but you know when you get that your foot -- someone's throat at home that you could terrain -- confidence -- will perplexing by the Carolina painters. And you know. -- seize that moment and here companies the tax and so. It can't happen and it did it doesn't matter it's at home or away sometimes actually sometimes I get home life -- you get -- to a state of being so comfortable. When you're cruising along the suddenly he did speak up."

[43:30]" Right no doubt. The -- had some funny email wise over the last couple days -- I want to get your input on this just you know for for grins and fielders long revenue fund. And we decided to come up with a nickname for the patriots prolific offense those four. Odds if we can now pass it on the market folks in the catches on so all of these elections which one you kind of lean toward all right BMW for Brady moss Welker the BMW precision offense. -- bombers. Beat these guns -- thunder. The wicked -- that is. It's a little Boston for either of the -- the Boston to -- party."

[44:07]" Okay well the firing squad. Some good choices -- summer very masochistic. Plus they that's how we are around here it's very true about -- hopefully you know -- kind time intriguing. Because it'd it'd if it has this sense of well this sense of probably using the -- the word the wrong way yup. But what has been the best part of the -- so -- their execution. On another play on words you call on the executioners -- I -- firing squad could see right. The -- that -- particularly get entangled we gave on the factor it's quite elderly. I -- it okay like its rules of the -- whoever said that whoever called this and they do you understand whoever wrote this -- whoever they showed me at a young woman was yes that'd succeed 40% for you what I you know each yeah. And 25% for coming up for the original idea that just absolutely impossible to know works absolutely because the numbers I can do it."

[45:17]" that they're -- it's better. Arm what -- overall impressions on on the that the patriots and the and the charges last week in. You know and and I and I say that only because I know that you sort of the tended to favor San Diego going into the match up and now and I and I try to podium of the -- but I understand that you know I thought the patriots about his dominant. Once again is I have seen them in a long time and it clearly shows you the pacers know how to use emotion and put it to a positive news."

[45:44]" Yeah and you know yes and I it was one of those people who collect and nothing to do with these days it's like practice what he had nothing to do with the events -- Wylie San Diego. But I you know -- I think I'm going to have to rethink PDA good good team entirely because that's physical play that we saw from them. Last year especially with the aggressiveness and Shawne Merriman Shaun Phillips that defensive unit that could be added it would head in the playoffs -- against doing what it was nonexistent. And it seemed like once October 1 made an early mistake. All the air -- completely out of this -- Diego chargers and that was a little perplexed me. Again that the patriots are taught. Flawed execution but I thought the turning point clearly in the game was once -- Diego scored in the third quarter and the got fumble on the kickoff you know I don't either I guess there's a video Bill Belichick was reading his defense after the drive he came back they came in with a great stop which included back to accept that I really was all she."

[46:48]" Yeah I was 20 noticed seven point four to seven patriots lose the football. And the coming in the get a huge sacks in just squelch all the life out of out of --"

[46:57]" I did it. You know -- if it's really easy for game we do once again we get to within ten points it's it's it's easy for games sometimes to kind of -- slip away from but. The patriots would have none of it they're decent helpless. The entire evening they need some place but they -- make nearly enough plays and you know there is that the chargers. Along with a couple other teams in this league who would be viewers last year. Have -- indicates noticeably flat job. You know I'm not sure what that contested twos that detested not playing a lot pre season is it it's it's a lofty expectations it's one thing become mean is it a -- yeah well. It's a big year for galore for in the sense that. You know almost -- people willing to give him a -- in his years with the raiders because no one's winning there right any you know he. -- an adequate job in Washington you know although the ordering him to reopen the -- but the probably to be ghost we third place and does not succeed. Then it's just not going to bode well for him so the raiders think -- think -- an asterisk for now because who has -- a -- the raiders. It's going to Super Bowl 15 it's 51 okay so yeah they've lost a lot of games regardless of who the coach is that there you know. So but they just look at it is filled -- people -- gravity and its capacity noticeably flat. And I just say that because of -- what took a look at look at -- New York Giants that you're trying to -- would do but at least they've come out of little light. Okay they got outscored in the first game of their defense eventually crumbled in the second game but at least they play like the New York Jets -- relative and you know they were overwhelmed the first week. But the second week they're young quarterback catalogs are going to be on the stretch. But -- teams like San Diego and Philadelphia and New Orleans ever really come out almost -- the first weeks of the season."

[48:54]" I just I I I'm. I guess I'm having a hard time coming to groups of why teams come out as flat as they do early in the year and if it and why they are somewhat. Good word for calm. Tepid -- Eric yeah yeah yeah that's even better that's that's pretty flat and I realize that that's good. I really experienced and thank you very much but why is that it would be able to figure this out is that going to the coach uses have been with expectations that it -- maybe these teams -- injuries what do you think that --"

[49:25]" Think you know why I mean I felt this I felt this in recent years okay I also think it's why home field advantage is kind of suffered and you know it is going to semi -- can I comment. But because would be enormous scrutiny that you're under which sports these days into the media the talk shows the radio shows the -- columns that the constant. -- you know teams that are expected to win and the -- Choi unit anymore -- almost sense of satisfaction to assess because that this so rail big people it is for the people who who -- be games. But the -- people I think they almost make you feel like if you don't win. Okay if you don't we need to disaster if you do wind it was expected. Okay and I think that pressure played one. The teams that are expected to win and works to be advantage teams that are not expected to -- you know you know I would. Which makes it seems like the colts and patriots two degree Pittsburgh -- an off year last year Philadelphia adult you're no -- The consistent winners in the national full week probably makes it even more impressive that they don't have. That many bumps in the road."

[50:37]" Very true Bertrand let's take a look at some potential bumps in the road a week three shelling. We -- okay. I start off then within the division because this is the battle for second place right now Miami at the New York Jets in which team actually gets its first. One of the year and is it just simple to say the jets should win this at home or does Miami give them a battle on the road well."

[50:58]" It's attempted to say digits would win this just the premise of home. You think the jets I don't -- premise of the affected the jets have beat them 14 to collect 18 times they played them. And you know it's seems like no matter who it is and for a long time it was a great matchup of Kevin why. Whose talent Tennessee. Getting all over exact comment and I guess it could be nick Mangold who gets all corset to the fact Thomas they always seem to be able to block they have been Jason Taylor. They would hit those two guys and making enormous big plays the jets swept them last year big went on christmas night actually really propelled them into getting into the playoffs I don't like -- don't Clement. Lead of the game last week you probably didn't like what -- had a seat it just could make parents he dropped short touchdown catch last week. The -- seem like they have a little spark their defense is little shaky that dolphins' defense has been okay -- they gave up 37 point last week but I think that was also. Based on the fact that the quarterback for interceptions and set up the cowboys with a lot of decent field position Debbie instead. Until -- gets its offensive watch street doubt they can maintain any kind of clock control I gotta go with the opposition -- lean toward the --"

[52:17]" Okay yeah and on top of that their at giants stadium is and so it's a home game a lot of intriguing battles this week and some interesting matchups in the some -- of I think that actually kind of tough to pick I struggled a little additional the last obviously lean one way or the other but it's intriguing the fact that San Francisco is off to a to know start 1 win on the road in the got to play at Pittsburgh on Sunday afternoon and I wondered just out of curiosity of -- is going shot in this want."

[52:42]" Well I don't think there's a question that I think what we saw the 49ers in you know you go back if you look at teams that are up and comers -- always go back -- to gain we're gonna get I've I don't you're going to ask me about particular games -- get to it yeah but you'd you'd go back and look at last year and I know defected that niners were able to -- Seattle who won the division. But even more so going the last week to see it into Denver. In knocking the Denver Broncos at the playoffs in overtime it's one of those jumping off into this team they have not played particularly well. That'd -- gate you know their defense has been better to gave up a lot of yards last week but it was -- not break that it would be the story they're decent support they spent a lot of money on that decent. I would beat Clement Tully Banta-Cain -- Some of their other acquisitions sedate fashion report they did get a blow though with the second era linebacker Manny Lawson to a lot of people like including myself. He looks like he could miss the rest of the season. Offensively they kinda. Stub their tocchet of the gates. But they got a late try from al Smith they get a lot of -- running from francoeur their offensive line it's better. Yeah I think they do have achieved here you know that it Pittsburgh right now a lot of people jumped on. You know 34726 -- but I don't think their offense has played particularly well they've been very tightly -- third on -- big plays when necessarily. But it could be they're still little too much. Throwing to set up the run rather than the other way around that their -- and has been incredibly aggressive. It is really got deck -- physical style of play that I thought was very very evident with Indy in the 2005 playoffs. And last year which you know -- Virtually nonexistent I thought the first half of the year that -- instead you know the niners have shown some cracks -- this is -- I think for Pittsburgh to establish your rod but I I agree would give one of very many intriguing games security Pittsburgh. Finds a way to win but it is going to be far from beating."

[54:39]" a little closer made it and then bought the other intriguing game has to do with the colts and and the Texans and the fact that Houston has to Winona over the first time in franchise history you -- spoken about how they they jumped on a Carolina after being in the hole early last week which I -- was very impressive an and frankly I think that's a signature win. For that franchise in Houston. I I think that's probably their best win since they'd you know came into being. And you gotta wonder because they're in that division whether or not they can mount some kind of a challenge to the colts."

[55:09]" Well I would disagree with you on this signature weighted toward the team because they'll go go back to week 16 up last year where today. Where the last team to defeat the Indianapolis Colts. All --"

[55:21]" A well -- doubt you'd yeah that's true to what extent. But and the colts also didn't play everybody all game long neither did that."

[55:28]" True though that investigate that was what the -- were still haven't their defensive problems job remember they remember late this season last year the -- We got compete they got big in the colts lost their last four regular season road games slash rating people forget that and they were indicted -- they were you know they were we can reinforced overstretched. They watched the Dallas they got run over by Vince young they got overwhelmingly ran over by -- until you know and then run game went into stump them for a 153 yards. In -- beat the colts for the first time in their history the intriguing thing -- sense. That was third shot the ball game their Ford -- its first time in their franchise is very. -- to -- nobody -- games in a row and funny enough the colts haven't lost since. Since that lost the colts got hot. Eduardo went in the Super Bowl so while it was a it was a severe test I think this is going to be an electric atmosphere in that game. On Sunday -- for -- Houston Texans pull it off they are really behind people with the walks. Audrey Johnson was not going to play this game and also that this -- guiding -- any which actually will eat them alive. You know he has played the Texans ten times 2708 yards we hear these number supported by a touchdown passes and only four interceptions but again. The last time they played Gary Kubiak system had its way with the colts defense and -- would be able to control the ball on the ground against."

[56:58]" Now that is some intrigue natural bring on the program as he set us straight Russell."

[57:02]" Well it's like alluded to earlier as far as jumping off -- like Sampras is glad Denver I think actually the game last year. Further for the Houston Texans against the colts. Who went up a way to put this to contend they did you -- 6 September they tripled their win from being the two of 14 team and I think that confidence is carried or too little this last year."

[57:22]" Certainly looks like it while I'm going to be watching now does best is like and is well on Sunday. On San Diego tried to bounce back at Green Bay Green Bay obviously is off to pretty good -- themselves as well but. You know so do we figure out if San Diego is as good or is as bad as they may have looked this week."

[57:38]" I think it is very telling game for the San Diego Chargers they've come out very lethargic. Offensively this season that they've only scored 28 points it even more interesting if -- Been limited to 14 points in each of their first two games last year they were only limited kid. To 14 points or less once all season. And that would at a loss to do that to the Baltimore were ravens' 16 to 13. Even little Boston New England they scored 21 points so they led the league in scoring last year but they look like a shell -- that. So far this season they looked tentative on offense and -- particularly offensive line has been nonexistent. I think this is my other game where the intriguing and great atmosphere will be lambeau field I like the Green Bay Packers to contribute -- And I think we're going to be scratching our head about -- Diego chargers on Monday once again."

[58:29]" Jackson and and I I tend to agree with -- Alan Jackson -- Denver. I bring it up possible because it's you know Denver struggle -- buffalo on the in the first week Jacksonville. Jimmy is still a little bit of an enigma so does either team separate themselves from sort of the other jealousy contending type team in the AFC with a win this Sunday."

[58:50]" Well the Denver Broncos have had if you problems moving the football David necessarily translate into a lot of point to -- scored 38 points in two games. But well over 400 yards offense each won two games the jaguars to remain to be the most erratic team in this league and he everybody talks about they're decent slider which I think is inconsistent at best. And he you don't need a better example the first two weeks to give up 282 yards rushing. Did Tennessee Titans and blessed we gave up 82 yards rushing in beating the Atlanta felt that's the problem is that he can't score the score 43 points -- games. Going into Denver I think will be tough for them jay Cutler boy does he have reliable arm or watch you and as we talked about early in the year haven't Javon Walker eager to be one of the great passing combos. Of this season -- to a good start not necessarily with the touchdowns but it that is his guy. And that Milosevic gets a break last week in a really tightly tightly timeout but lecture at -- to a freeze it already exhibition Munich after he kicked a field goal but that's what. Ups of the ship is all about when Denver has 68 -- JC went to."

[1:00:00]" Guerrero but I think they'll make it three you know against -- that I think the most erratic lake. Arm I'll bring up this game all of because as the patriots next opponent but obviously Cincinnati. Well is on the road at Seattle this week Sunday as well picked -- to -- I don't mean in -- we just scored again 51 deplores -- scored again as well yeah I know if that was an extraordinary game in 96 point scored in the back to Cleveland scored 51 of Ohman may be more extraordinary."

[1:00:29]" Well even more extraordinary to -- it was only three years ago. That those teams combined for 106 point you know -- game the second highest scoring game in history the browns that they scored 48 point lost by ten. So that melody and being played no I want wonder how the Buckeyes will do this week yeah."

[1:00:46]" No kidding that it it really even to get. So does Seattle outscored Cincinnati at home"

[1:00:52]" you know this is the game I'm really on the -- would give our eight fully expected to be -- out so he got two very very capable reading games you've got two very very capable quarterbacks and I think you have a Seattle Pete since it's a little really. Alas because noted the cardinals only took elastic of people that do it but Seattle never really talked. A grasp on what Arizona was doing last week and listen I'd look at with the doses Seattle decent going back to the Super Bowl. But -- his team that struggled on offense in and week one to put over 400 yards on the board or on the field against Seattle really kind of surprised me a little and I think this is going to be the really real wild game I think since they still has to be really a little last week. From giving up all those points but he appears to keep with them. You've got to if for them it's all about takeaways one of my favorites that's -- only going to do this going back to 2005 it will include that playoff game against Pittsburgh. Debatable what 40 games since that in those 20 games it's 68 takeaways that's pretty impressive in the 15 games they've what they've 14 takeaways -- the ultimate feast or famine what becomes of forcing turnovers probably -- they don't get turnovers they don't get wins apartment leaving a little towards Seattle only because they think since and I could still be able to shell shocked but I think both teams are going to put 30 points on the board."

[1:02:14]" Game Qwest Field in Seattle Seattle at home against Cincinnati 45 eastern time game on Saturday or on Sunday and of course via since they've angles are what the patriots will travel next week one other Sunday game the Sunday night game on NBC. Dallas -- Chicago seemed to be at least via an intriguing matchup -- the to the extent that again we get the cowboys in a Sunday that situation but. Right now these two best teams in the NFC may be with all the respective team like Washington."

[1:02:44]" Well -- I I think well I don't know about Chicago is much I mean I still have my doubts about them and my doubts that a lot do you like most people do have to do with their offense and I don't -- dependent on Rex Grossman but he is -- turnovers machine. They you know he turned it over couple be 22 more picks last week but it's not just for excessive probably they cleats immediately before. They turn over people were -- shot only what was the wood woods Rex Grossman they're running -- public wells so. They are very radical offense that their offense in two games has scored one touchdown and thank -- for Devin Hester who. Had a punt return for a touchdown had another kick return for a touchdown called back last week. And probably out gained most teams in the league -- his returns last week -- but if you if you cannot hold -- hopefully are going to win that this week that I think is is that doubtful for the Chicago Bears but I also say this this game is about tempo -- if cowboys Stevens doesn't play any better than I think the first two weeks. Okay and they were better last week all the Chris chambers was able to maneuver -- real dirt there -- secondary even if Trent green threw four interceptions you know Bernard Berrian is always -- 75 yard touchdown waiting to happen. So I think this game will. Really depends on tempo I'd lean toward the cowboys but I also know going into soldier field Sunday night a lot of people watching W pretty elektra electric atmosphere. So."

[1:04:11]" Your Monday night game is tennis -- add New Orleans and and really I think New Orleans starting -- a one to a shock just about everybody."

[1:04:18]" Well but it just. These flatness of -- been -- not played well because they've not played well on offense Reggie Bush would all due respect the -- windshield -- he runs great -- sideline to sideline. But until he starts warming up field and becomes a better runner that way -- they just seem like. The team right now on offense it will -- lack confidence as strange as this leasing L watching Drew Brees last week seems like he's lost a little off his passes. And again it is to immediately the -- which is not what it was an offense that for them to begin on 20 not in the third quarter can't take. I thought was I thought that was war starting in the second half against the colts the previous series so think about this and they want to stretch. The it is good to saints would stretch that after 1010 at to have tickets Indianapolis they gave up take carried to about 59 consecutive points without scoring 31 left in the second half and then got 20 -- 159 -- eight touchdowns of the steel bowl you know that they they'd -- towards Tino has been you know more than respectable picks for experts getting to the superbowl. They show those kinds of that whatsoever. Probably is that nobody else in the division is exactly light up your stocks either you ended that this could be an opportunity from the get back on field but. My suggestion is forget the -- things just get. We'll get Reggie Bush spec of the field advantage on back on the field and maybe ESPN and are all talked about me and entries here he can replay the USC Texas game from a couple of years. And he he can't get that's better football game and a."

[1:06:01]" Now that's very true and they don't want the all time great went solo lead us to -- our game here at Gillette on the 1 O'Clock eastern time. Patriots in the bills what kind of a percentage of likely to be put on the bills coming away with a win"

[1:06:17]" or city. I don't know if fingers David figured that out I mean I think they'll be really really hard pressed here patriots. Well listen very as a reason. They you know most people think or he's the best -- football you know there's -- ground -- it could be go undefeated this year you know they they eat -- and teams that they beat the playoffs last season. An -- destroyed them the first two weeks this season more importantly is this as a team that. They felt the -- in seven -- and 12 out of 13 and it in the bills especially in their offensive line don't look like they're proved enough to deal with New -- sense last week he had a couple op. Opportunity to make Pittsburgh gave -- an arresting. But they never -- capitalize you know I think that the team which treading water and had a little disappointing because they look like what they were up and comer but I just can't seem -- unless the patriots turn over the ball five or six remember last year. And I don't remind you opening day to shoot the buildup to a great start -- offered a million fumble -- return -- touched on the -- they scratch it was different 1917 win New England but I just don't anticipate that happening analyst afloat -- a little board decides who like on offense I think there can be hard -- court here."

[1:07:40]" At a question from -- in South Carolina who wrote Genesis or your odds on the -- running the table at 19 you know"

[1:07:49]" I said this before are ruled I won't reiterate I think Wilson or C team go winless that we will undefeated. So Ortiz is not likely I don't think I I don't think it's slightly because. I think it is incredibly difficult to achieve with the Miami Dolphins she'd. I'll go back 35 years they did it -- 14 and oh eventually 17 you know you know the patriots had their church where they won 211 Williams -- they didn't do it. In one season but that's an NFL record that might never be broken. Now if they -- you do it all once he'd it would be absolutely phenomenal but listen there's a lot of William I doubt there they have. It did Dallas Cowboys they have -- if Philadelphia Eagles get. Their act together they played them later in the year and of course -- lady Indianapolis Colts in Indianapolis so. I think something that would be fun. Would be if perhaps the colts in the patriots -- defeat we got two decades that would be out games yeah I just latroy incredible catcher yeah I'm."

[1:08:50]" that a little while ago a 40 came along with -- announced that you know that we looked earlier this week -- potential shell is -- bumps in the road for the patent on the schedule. And the first one that really came up was of the game at Miami's it would because. Patrons usually have a and try I have trouble in Miami is just traditionally been a tough spot for them lightly no matter though no matter the strength of the team and then of course the next on the -- it was November the fourth against in --"

[1:09:15]" So would you -- nowhere you can get tripped up he'd ever been here a year the patriots went 14 to two and two outs and and remember it is they do I guess is referred to as a lawyer Malloy game when they lost every one nothing -- into football team before they agree and the people and started to what would eventually be calm 21 consecutive wins. Does anybody remember with -- the last team to be in England in 2003 season. The last team to beat that lead into the -- trivia but what I'd say I think it'll catch you very much by surprise in 3. In 3 galactic repeat of that year. Of course then they went on -- one what 15 straight games in their first six the following year -- it's almost that I don't recall. It was so Steve spurrier Washington Gretzky"

[1:10:02]" of course. Of course."

[1:10:04]" And I would I think people would be hard pressed -- well. Steve spurrier you know they weren't very good when he's terrible time trying to beat they beat the patriots in Washington. And that was the last game that they were -- into team after four games and then of course ran the table after the episode you've just absolutely never now. What can happen."

[1:10:23]" While Russell let's throw we keep bringing -- back then okay awesome stuff falls and stuff now a calm however they get home early okay get released any sleep."

[1:10:33]" Now but that go to Goodwill we like that -- that second inning mean we're doing that absolutely correct for those that don't know Russell and his wife just part of RBI daughter into the world's few weeks ago and so what. Were well. We have to -- with just you know catcher temperature make sure that you know life is still good in the Baxter household. Absolutely she's already in charge she's every David Meehan and -- yes that's right. -- used to the sound."

[1:11:06]" I'm sure you're used to at least at the Chinese theater out here I. A buried -- three -- which I won't get into but all of them down quite irritable different story that. That's exactly and I Russell think you'll do next week or did you have a great week."

[1:11:22]" Always appreciated thank you to that's Russell Baxter the NFL research coordinator for ESPN. Is he visits with thus each and every Thursday right here and said the patriots playbook."

[1:11:34]" When erected picture on okay we'll go right to Dick Jauron. -- let me set the table again Koreas were an -- number two with -- play book today we are selecting our nicknamed the patriots offense these elections again BMW precision offense Brady's bombers. Beat these guns Roland thunder -- says. Boston TD party. In the firing squad which Russell like BBs guns was my favorite we've read some of the of votes already we still have time for you to vote for your favorite that we pass it on the PFW guys -- Can't catch on a little bit web radio act patriots dot com that's the email address. Vote for your favorite you can also ride in another candidate if you haven't heard it mentioned as well because that really clever one that you just blatant. Like Craig and South Carolina who's just never going to give up you're hearing -- No not that what he says how about. Brothers in arms."

[1:12:32]" I don't know Craig. I don't know he's thanking."

[1:12:40]" Now now okay not going to and a all right web radio at patriots dot com as the literally let the other it did the host of this I'm watching my aunt's fitness. Let's offered your editorial comment on on most of Craig's and some of the other selections that we've done over the last two day. In only read -- your you you're looking to me for approval no I just because you've been willing to offering your you know. What I mean that's going to mean you're the one with the get trigger finger over -- so I don't have the control over that. You do that's why -- do you."

[1:13:13]" Don't -- your little on the as the blow and well well I have no putt easier but I have."

[1:13:22]" That's when it turns -- my Martin's what I said that's the only one I have. That's silly but the only thing I can control all right let's go to the conference calls members of the patriots media visiting -- bills head coach Dick Jauron."

[1:13:34]" Awkward developed could be about city here we oh. I didn't -- better days yeah. I'm sure that's the case I'll by the way how is -- Kevin going what's the plan I understand the -- I don't know detection."

[1:14:01]" Well it -- latter part of the court. You know all of our medical update -- doctor. They haven't -- anything Monday you always hear -- purpose. Really at this point and see -- is really great this. It's a little bit better every -- in the world and -- all the future. So we're optimistic we're cautiously optimistic about weren't going. Apparently been unbelievable unbelievably important hopefully support really. A lot of hair trigger -- anyway it's going well and you could expect after that. I was you -- affected him I was manifested itself you know it you'd probably have or under. -- people that question there's no way. -- all or -- him part of -- It here two it's affected everybody I could say you all the fame or. But it that."

[1:15:42]" The evolved get a feel for duke Rockies starts certainly play one of the first -- Pittsburgh -- pretty much what we're we're kind of progress usually -- Wendy's would be amended. Well."

[1:16:01]" Well there's no doubt that we we have played a lot more consistently in every area you know have a chance Portland -- obviously. -- a very talented team -- big game are people that. Really bother or hold on our and effort we just thank -- level. That we needed -- caliber. Pittsburgh going got a ways to go. Luckily or. Got a real good group of guys not afraid to work they work at it so they're back at work today. -- prepared -- we can do."

[1:16:50]" I'm Mike vigorous Monday it was short comments about it from quoted as saying that the often should be or gross so less conservative or whatever the power. What was that about it and one address."

[1:17:06]" Well first of all GP it away well. Just the way that you gave me the question like -- like private you know that are oh Howard. I think they're right -- corrected. After a game or what people are frustrated but there's no. There're there're there except the fact that we all have to -- a better job start you have got to prepare better. It better opportunity oriented only to execute better we all got."

[1:17:47]" He's got a good running back to work with a look like privilege of all four rookies are pretty impressive I would think so well BO real good football there there's no doubt about it. Usually get better and there are like they are worse situation where. Could've done a little more I think it will oh good experience for a National Football League but. Very very -- very hard worker he felt so. We've got help them build in a lot of areas people just don't like that."

[1:18:32]" Generally gracious and pundits. And other than ever about certain vision period -- that don't always come to pass but certainly as the patriots. Who went there today before game barrier to vehemently that division there really felt like everything was. I was superbowl --"

[1:18:51]" So there's -- it's one -- the last six. There are awfully awfully -- football game that there cool well. Put together well what they're so important problem or anybody currently able. Obstacle for us."

[1:19:14]" Coach when you look at it depends -- can attack on I was thinking just talked about the two outside linebackers from bravely and Colvin what challenges. They'll present you. Defensively as -- very."

[1:19:27]" They present. A lot of situations that present size and you know certainly if you get them on your your running back or triple they're they're both excellent Russian pressure. Very smart -- you know when you watch the book is standing have a feel for the game. Certainly they have pressuring her. Real bad for locating the ball getting so. Really really. I was it was Thomas -- different from here what is different. You know hopefully -- with you hit that -- Linebacker on your back depending which. It -- down there for him also form -- happy ball comparable that are acceptable court people very very field for the game."

[1:20:52]" Coach that is great he must look now compared to that was when you start when you with the bears -- different. Unfortunately Brady certainly a broader range of receiving doubt that we have watched you"

[1:21:15]" do it -- there. Okay -- So there you start -- everybody that would predicting. Super -- Look like you're right -- sure -- for their goal or their past history but I'll play at a high level believe for a -- a hit Lee Evans and tracked think that we talked about earlier. It's gotta be a function -- the whole war. Higher level in every area in every area that we do well you people. -- for what they want it. They don't have don't have any option they have way park and ultimately -- it away. That and it would be best if that happens quickly."

[1:22:26]" Is -- your Randy moss offense that he's a guy you can. Back sequences deepen and"

[1:22:33]" he's better he's been -- for a ticket subscription team -- basic here over the top what. Obviously it opens up a lot of those --"

[1:22:44]" What do you like about."

[1:22:45]" I mean I they said that JP you didn't read JP's comments this criticism a lot of people. Act external read it it's criticism of Steve fairchild what what do you like about Steve what he's done with the offense last year so far this year."

[1:23:02]" I didn't I didn't interpret it always play well I'll talk to people that were errors or are. Hurt the confidence and so what my interpretation not being what what see her -- electric creativity -- like the fact that he got to have a background so hard I was brought here. College football what have you Colorado street and been exposed. Don't feel passing game -- like Mark. He's a bright guy good guy hard workers there's a lot of political career high character. Have has IPO -- ought to do it certainly we've got to execute better."

[1:23:59]" How how much of an offense success I mean I notice that felt good percentage on it how much is offensive. Play calling as a coordinator and how much of it is."

[1:24:08]" However it was better. -- clinch it. So far Jermaine obviously terrible -- Losman is certainly. But museum as heavy duty back that one can get into a mode where you can control games -- it -- him on the road."

[1:24:33]" We'd like get in that situation that we don't that we don't. We don't see any we don't see any reason function or situation you know -- that carries it away. And so you know there are different things here. -- hopefully -- in those situations. Whether what you -- there you know these guys and so situation. I would say at this point they'll have to -- but but we are her. What we do what we've got a chance that we can where it well. Goal in the course of here you know. We we would like probable little bit more like. I think that have been so successful you know for a power successful really. -- it. We're pretty we get a bit that would be in my life boldly consideration or not -- all you know. --"

[1:25:49]" Coach who would -- weapons -- quarters ago it a parent or lose lose. You know looked right you know advances have certain substances."

[1:26:00]" So sure overlooked by. It always what they're there's trouble -- he. That is true that you prologue time for real right field. -- what they're trying to do it also Ortiz they're trying to do. Detroit and unfortunately it was there -- other. It'll where -- not always being new look offensive line working out. Our offensive line I have a lot of I believe over don't just get better -- it. They're younger you know -- Go real with their development you can be -- What hero to look at get anything started"

[1:27:09]" perhaps him having this is in some ways a vastly different defense. Which brought him here last year -- could you talk about the three the three guys that you just had to replace. -- season DiGiorgio wire -- for Simpson and you but he for Webster. You know how does that change your approach on defense -- what those guys bring to the table."

[1:27:31]" But our you know our approach doesn't change. That significantly change but it. From game to game. Actually -- day or grow -- court. It's it oh. Or has definitely hurt they're always again fortunately hurtful that there. You got to replace people. It's harder to replace old guy but -- partly everybody got victory. We've got to find a way to play better pull it. I -- humidity do the color get a real tree you know you know all -- well. Experience because of the tragedy entry -- It lost about. -- it never -- and he came out of college we're like his development. I think he's going to be a fine player photo development or or."

[1:28:58]" I've had talking is it I know it's only week two but a look at the patriots get off -- the start -- do especially offensively. Com and know that they're the -- that you guys have to find a way to get past if you want to win. The division."

[1:29:14]" Will challenge that -- it definitely huge challenge for a everybody else in our division. -- it. You know it's anything we knew it was going to be a challenge -- it our position we think -- division pretty good one definitely. Division play it got great rivalry -- like call activities here that sure."

[1:29:46]" that's Dick Jauron head coach of the Buffalo Bills visiting with members of the patriots media conference call earlier here. At Gillette stadium John brought back with a here in our number -- a patriots playbook for Thursday and and a shall we say web radio act patriots dot com email address again. Keep your prediction for Sunday's game coming and there were about ready to select -- win that. In the named the patriots offense a contest here this one comes from Kent who says I've over the firing squad was also Russell -- favorites a couple of for firing squad. Catherine votes -- with hi -- for ON the offense of the mass destruction. Michelle is as an unrelated question what did you think of TO end zone video camera impression. Which he just got fine for actually during a tense things have been at that was funny little levity for a change. Yeah I'd I candidate to mean you know honestly don't pay a lot of attention to Terrell Owens but the we hadn't seen it he hit behind a little -- down and help the football open and rolled his hands like you know usually camera and hid behind the goal post indicating that there was little. Secret videotaping going on. Kind of funny but the league didn't like -- they find him 7500 dollars. But he says that he got the idea from callers to his weekly radio show in Dallas. He says no he's going to be more careful though with what he does especially comes to stand suggestions because is quotas nothing's worth getting a fine for. He says -- consider an appeal but it may not even be worth it. Okay thanks Theo thanks for the palm. Duels of a couple of others here fan writes from -- my vote is for Brady's bombers thank you. Here comes Lawrence who is from the west Linn Oregon but he's originally from where him -- And Revis as the -- bonnies as guys on a cold stamina like that helped created name worthy of the patriots. The name should be a combination of the speed of the new offense the spirit of the coach and the unique accent of the area so since jaguars is already taken so much. As a after much thought I came up with that change guys. Good luck this week when it comes to beating two when it comes to being -- guys you are the best. -- is it true that Roy acne is doing an interview on WH GH tonight very funny up a."

[1:32:13]" Gary has some for for a you able some for Lawrence. No -- up pretty good those funny. Thomas right back in it insists that it's all about the new englanders the hardcore bunch. Do the wicket pair us up that or the -- long balls he is BB guns beat these guns is a little weak. Okay you're entitled to your opinion right now beat these guns leads in the clubhouse with -- firing squad. Making a late run along with -- bombers tied for second right now those seeing as we have approximately 25 minutes left in the program we're going to get to. Marshawn Lynch who is the go Buffalo Bills rookie running back in his conference call and we also have patriots that could Bill Belichick probably means that we need to begin to wind this thing down so you have your thoughts and you haven't yet voted. Once again here -- the suggestions BMW Brit standing for a Brady moss and Welker -- BMW precision offense Brady's bombers beat these guns Roland thunder. Wicked pitches Boston -- deep party. And firing squad the firing squad but it was your suggestions those the ones that were sent -- that we made the cuts on yesterday. Beatings guns leads by just a slim margin right now over firing squad and Brady's bombers. You're votes count web radio at patriots dot com senate and now let's get off two conference call number two time that -- yeah let's do that. And the members of the patriots media visiting with rookie running back of the bills Marshawn Lynch"

[1:33:57]" the lodge an -- could be gonna go away right now. Let me ask you about your future. Because you're so body of president has been pretty good as far as. You're working at as a rookie and -- much much from what you've got to go turn -- numbers are comparable job Pierre you know critical without -- you know it feels comfortable as a veteran."

[1:34:28]" All so you know -- says."

[1:34:48]" Do you weather site under running back take him. Replace some of the Maggette and they had a good running back -- up over the years. What you know what do they say you're always going to be addition to run -- step right into this some heavy work."

[1:35:05]" They know that that that was -- you know I'll I'll let me here. -- felt great. Pleasure in order in all of the feel good. It felt comfortable you know bar him could. I'm pretty blue it. Cause okay I didn't vegetable."

[1:35:37]" Continue as we are Dick Jauron just moments ago -- although road you did you really kind of go running about that. Carries the ball was -- kinda dictate what the offense does do you figure -- do that. Can you tell our. Just condemning."

[1:35:56]" It'd become aren't you know echoed this car that -- second clip. It you know -- there but I'm."

[1:36:17]" I don't shot eight minute mr. you think down the road you can be a heavy duty back of this Kaman which were all the rock bands immensely obviously ball control."

[1:36:32]" Yeah you know -- up until it. Now they're they're beloved yeah that we. Economics and a I don't -- fight -- yeah okay and do you -- woman who literally got a lot of other talent you know on the field -- Albert how well. And that's solid."

[1:36:59]" I'm looking ahead -- Sunday. They're facing a big do you guys is probably playing as good as and it gave up all other fact I think I want patriots really -- so. Pretty good does talent defense and a lot of good performance -- yeah. Well I do you got to review it attacking Matt and and how do you feel going against them."

[1:37:23]" Well they're -- and they don't think so. --"

[1:37:30]" You know I don't know can't get -- right you know now you know what current event. It Elkhart top -- upper -- don't put -- you know. -- it was."

[1:37:51]" What do you. What it is so it's oh you obviously the quality of that particular conference call isn't exactly outstanding and I think he can get the gist of it anyway and a let's take a little bit easier Marshawn Lynch is well because he's a rookie and he's going to develop -- in a few -- to be quite honest with the at any rate you got a little glimpse into a Marshawn Lynch and what his thoughts are about the bills offense. The bills running game his role on the team at least at this stage of the game just letter but -- know what it's like we're down there."

[1:38:21]" When you -- That's exactly what a conference call it -- there that's okay so there you go seek Gary giving you a perfect example it's what it sounds like all the time most of them though do pretty good job outright to a -- get it at least listen double that unfortunately it was not one of them but. Will do little battle that next week I actually thought. Dick Jauron was fine. This week that turned out okay at any rate we like to bring it to you like that because we want you hear the questions. From the -- me a lot of times when you hear snippets in clips and sound bites like you know you don't get the full context of the answer some -- the -- what the question was to precipitate the answers -- That's why in this particular format and on this particular show. We played as is it would because that way you can make your own decisions. And your own conclusions. That's the one thing that we have the advantage of doing here that you might not necessarily get listened to a radio station -- Watching TV stations certainly getting its morals -- the advantage you got. Now one of the advantages you have listening here on them. The patriots football network -- patriots dot com radio are back the other the emails that we've had a 45 more come in here with some votes this is coming right down the wire kids. -- let me go to Matt from Oregon -- all of gosh that's -- I -- was going to read this and but now I got two on stock is. Just quick notes say that Gary has been on the ball big time lately with the sound -- and is well placed ripping the rest that you guys. Way to -- Gary keep up the good work at. That your brother Matt -- Uncle Matt -- It give -- a little credit he has currently on hopes. It's wrong but. On can't writes John I like what Russell had to say about the firing squad entry thanks to rustle of the there's a couple of cool things about -- Aside from the obvious sadistic side of the entry it also has to do with a with the minutemen a Foxboro stadium. They fired shots every time the patriots score which is true by the way. He goes on the idea that the offense is supposed to score that he -- as opposed to keep the other team from scoring with the exception of the safety course technically as soon as the defense recovers the ball fumble or interception and attempt return for a touchdown. They are on the offensive from the moment they recovered the ball in the papers made out of changed its units on the field -- the minuteman fires. Sally at Torrey -- every time the firing squad scores. It is please count me for an award for the firing squad okay can't there's a vote for the firing squad arm. As -- You know all here we go COR I Oriole from saint Catherine's Ontario votes for BB guns. There's a little for babies guns dean in the very Florida says Brady's bombers the -- and I knew that those would be removed partner so. Firing squad BB guns Brady's bombers the three most popular nicknames notable for Brady's bombers so we're still. Dead even right now mile total B these guns as they -- vote lead. Over both Brady's bombers and firing squad. Thomas writes okay I could see my name clearly sucks that he wrote in -- wicked business but -- I -- like BMW precision offense. -- thank you very much thomas' that would to a series surfing and email today. A -- What they do we call this now. Quarter of quarter of 40 eastern time we do have to get up coach Belichick would call this contest it's pretty tight. Holes if we get the injury report will come back. Good idea for all right so what will get into a coach Belichick right now so you still got roughly 15 minutes I'm going to close the voting off at 4 O'Clock eastern time. So it's a practice with 15 minutes 14 minutes from now in the meantime if you got a last second vote web radio at patriots dot com send it and send it in now and then we'll update you at the top of the hour and let you know with the winner on in the meantime here's patriots coach Bill Belichick"

[1:42:23]" well first of all on the buffalo our -- Our thoughts and prayers go Kevin Everett and his family. Friends course -- Martina played with him knew him from the University of Miami bills organization as the a deal that difficult situation. You know just a look and get ready for the bills now this is a game that's a lot different from the first two we've played -- slow play is very distinct then. That they'll be hard for us get ready for it's workers power have to. We're awfully our road this week -- their style play defensively and then offensively. And as good as there in the kicking game this you know it just different from what we've seen last couple weeks in a different from the way we are so. Really haven't -- exposure to those types of things we're going to have to. Spent a lot of time getting ready form but Tom. Defensively at all all awful lot of quickness rotate those defensive lineman -- they keep -- there they're fast they're very active -- By Schobel we've always had trouble with him 23 techniques mum cargo -- triple although very quick and active players in there -- along Williams on in those linebackers are fast then. And Whitner is or development in good player form in the secondary and court we have another very good on special teams that got the best return game in the league -- it. And perished. Great job blocking covered with Aikman. Stamer particular Mormon hop on -- league so. They got a lot of really good players on special teams that play very well explosive team there and offensively -- Very good skill players -- then -- impressive. As a result you know -- income cal this year and a draft but he's certainly lived up there and there but it's -- about -- And it a little bit more it's -- opportunities this year and in other receivers are outstanding. -- of course church. Read peerless price they can in the kicking game severe very good tight -- solid. And you know wasn't very act definitely quarterbacks they've upgraded their office -- one with the addition of you know dockery and likes the walker published come along foreman sides so you know that's pretty. Pretty solid group there course at about Peter's lose one tackles and he's developed and a that are really good player -- so. Good football team in the Denver -- you know lost them all tough in the last play in. And you know last week against Pittsburgh that the fans today. -- ability don't play well red area they keep Pittsburgh out of the end zone you know -- the game. You know very competitive and in Pittsburgh couple old. -- right there at the end -- moved away from home. You know -- was really pretty competitive game and are very different schools weaver goes so you know be a big big week for us in terms of preparation this week -- trying to get some things practiced and looked at that are. -- that a lot different than what we do -- different -- what we've seen in the first. First couple weeks of the regular season in all back in pre season. Spend then quite awhile since we've team seeded team this kind of speed and quickness."

[1:45:57]" is the break."

[1:46:06]" And Arnold -- thank our our -- that unit has played well with some degree of consistency -- winners Lotta things that can be better book. I think that it you know that done together -- pretty. Pretty consistently done to get it here for you know quite along that same as on the team last year and you know they they handle some tough situations. On the first two games relevant low Upton and pressure defenses and things like that you know for the most part we. Most of them picked up. You know that's hard working group and the -- hard working coach and they they come to practice every day and usually the field -- better than when I started so it's. Positive -- over you know we're really talked much about -- it is too busy trying to get the whole thing done. So bring in enough talk -- we're -- Football but there -- a lot of power citizens of the player's player coach rescissions. -- player and coach. I was -- between a player and a coach and talk about things that are important and that's -- all -- Sort of sort of ridiculous. Seriously I think -- else. And it got out of practice went into -- cultures. Get ready for buffalo it's a lot for -- handle something we haven't seen much. -- that we need do we need to practice. So ridiculous. -- there won't folks that are good players they execute well."

[1:48:21]" I got very good Kuerten they're good specialists always -- there you know you Carolyn -- don't special teams that don't have good specialists kickers returns. Snapper holders in them all almost all the key positions."

[1:48:33]" On the at a good group of core players ago that well coached that play consistently well on a show every week. Return kicks against everybody they cover well you know most teams. All teams on the pump all of the two outside guys that gunners. You know Sam -- like Kevin third -- it's like -- your slicker point 33 gunners here really need to. Really need to double team him and he -- because -- just don't have not dies or adult on the and emulated but it doesn't in the run for like stammer. Like that so it's hard to get a mall block in the return game and they their aggressive today returns -- all well. They're hard to tackle you know urchins and -- two different completely different Ryan styles but they're they're both very very effective with. With the styles and skills so. There they create a lot of field position there they're right at the top league infield position where they usually are terms of their starting point. Where -- back you up to you know -- could change field position. One -- you know he's he's easily capable you know 5560 yard net ponds with coverage they had so. They're tough very."

[1:49:56]" Brandished that he's heard it clear that he does a good job on all the field. Works are smart on top everybody wants to do well."

[1:50:07]" It all down. I think -- icon attitude working hard trying to get everything right doing things are supposed to become. -- that's what leadership is"

[1:50:23]" didn't pass that right. --"

[1:50:31]" I'm in -- they did brought a couple of experienced guys you know walker and and operated bowlers you know young -- That's -- well formed you know to go our theaters sit theaters it's really. On anchors tall -- on long but they're Arctic and this is probably. But physically has biggest thing definitely a connection bigger them. And you know their athletic as Peters is Walker's. Of their their big strong back Clinton doesn't need much room. Quarterback is very -- very athletic so. Sometimes he wanted to occur struggles eaten away from of these things Estes he's quick throws all -- he's been on that place for a lot of years. The challenge force."

[1:51:20]" Goes back and given day. Find -- player I."

[1:51:46]" almost went inside linebacker for the most part. Taylor was almost useless and -- of conduct -- so. It's look at a lot of different."

[1:51:59]" Think Thomas has a lot of good skills strong very powerful guy. He's explosive big he he runs well we all know that he's smart he works hard studies you know you want our off season one of our off season awards come in and here and you know we don't have too many guys that that do. Me Welker did it too but on the same for the most part you know the guys that are here work pretty are never competitive. That's -- usual have a -- and do that -- office does work ethic his dedication and also you know his his skill. That -- out on the field shout -- on the field from day one he's very ten of these team oriented he understands defenses well understands different. Not only what he's don't know what other people are doing it and you know how -- all that together. He can do things to help other people out in the game of the defects if he's smart players think of it's been great work."

[1:52:57]" It won't happen again you know that game. But nobody is okay my big thing."

[1:53:10]" and prepare well this week and go out and play well against buffalo."

[1:53:15]" You know me. Want thank a lot of our production on the -- sometimes -- you know depends on the circumstances and and plays that are called. That most important thing for us defensively to play good team defense and imposition. And take advantage of those opportunities when you know when the plays come to us from an opportunity to make fullest. So you know one when he played if that's what we do it's not the line for one gonna. There's got a lot of production -- productions design -- do their job and play good -- With plays happen than the people that are there but the point of the technique to match. No question. They put a lot better than an investigative work our -- sort of things from the jet game we talked about Anke you work harder practicing recommend. They showed up. More productive and positive manner and and the San Diego and you know -- new challenge this week because. Certainly the skill level of the of the buffalo receivers -- passing games little bit different than San Diego or the -- passing games. Of the new challenge this week and you know what the work. On wants it -- all the work hard on this week because of the skill level and ability of the receiver son. I don't mean to the white receivers but the receivers tight ends of the entire passing game. That buffalo puts out there there -- got a lot of really good players. Normalcy fair -- offense and how explosive they can to get the ball down field and."

[1:54:52]" Evans last year and it was 13 hundred yards that would area in -- they're they're tough."

[1:55:02]" These drugs."

[1:55:06]" It is if I think he's a good quarterbacks got. Good athletic ability as a -- good arms -- touch on the ball."

[1:55:14]" Please he's got good quickness on the puck Murton and to do things like blueberry season you know on players like that."

[1:55:36]" The -- This that are our person alter with and instantly and an entire bills organization as they go through the process we want players on this team from the university and I mean even if we didn't that we still you know feels it's unfortunate situation. So much as we can -- emotional support them -- obviously it's. Competitive game is part of snore. We care about tennis as fellow competitor and a player in the league. Or another coach currently."

[1:56:13]" It Bill Belichick earlier today at Gillette stadium -- members of the patriots medium we're still compliments -- get in the updated injury report so while. Obviously that's going to get to -- after 4 O'Clock eastern time so I would suggest here next couple moments. If you were that interested in the updated injury report now looks like he just came across -- will hold on tutor for moment in the meantime the votes -- ran. Our nicknamed the patriots offense that will be doing over the last couple of days yeah -- his -- BB guns by the way is the name of -- up to a stripper okay I don't think I was aware of that but I will assume. You're okay with -- at -- at exactly Brian writes for the firing squad. Policy nate in Pittsburgh but originally from knowing -- Guys I think they're all pretty lame what you had heard you earlier in the week -- have been my own suggestion which would probably be equally lame of that things that I have to go for the least lame of them which is Brady's bombers. -- of the good work love to -- patriots talk radio here in the heart of steeler country thank you nate. Well about one that puts a solid dead heat. Between BBs guns Brady's bombers and firing squad Henry. Rights Henry from the other England I assume over the -- out on the ovals on the porn you guys were talking about coaching of the day what do you think Mike Tomlin no Bill Belichick but he still has got potential. Almost forgot the patriots are superb right now what you for the colts game -- get numbers but yeah my problem is some I think he's one of those assistance. Arm that has come on strong the last few years based on what. His team that he works or is done which being Pittsburgh has learned under you know bill -- rather well. So far you'd have to say obviously -- got a great start I was -- for a couple of games we have to consider overall I think calibre of opposition. But I'm glad to see. And assistance of -- caliber. Get an opportunity to leave his own team as opposed to and being. You know having somebody in that position sort of recycled from another team I think that's a step in the right direction. Here we Bob literature I have to go for firing squad. Brady's bombers sounds too much like he only throws bombs. And that simply is not true but we do the firing squad the home sidelines as someone did point out but so what -- Tom those bullets not BBs. Okay thank you -- New Hampshire and then. Craig says okay -- firing squad it as can be. Well if you're Boyd Craig says it Gary now -- that you might -- out. Well looks quiet like by a mere one vote. Firing squad wins right at the end right at the wire here at 4 O'Clock eastern time so on okay patriots offense is known as. The firing squad. -- pass that off to -- PFW. And Steve which -- will start referring to here on the program. And Steve we can't you know try to incorporated and in some former fashion now I think I have the original email. On this -- from yesterday as to who actually came up with a nickname. Or is that one of the ones that got thrown away."

[1:59:38]" I have to look real quick can't remember."

[1:59:42]" I think they still haven't anyway I'll still I'll I'll look for. But firing squad it is thank you for one who took the time to a vote in contribute with your -- Pitcher with -- votes. All that real injury report they killed the -- Update patriots did operative had everybody participate today they did have limited participation from Kyle Brady Randy moss Donte' Stallworth David Thomas Stephen Neal Tom Brady Kelley Washington Eugene Wilson Mike Wright and Billy Yates. So those players limited participation practice but they did not have anybody who sat out completely the bills today he did not have Sam Aiken are Terrence McGee practice. Limited participation by Brett butler in the that if full participation from Josh reed next and you -- so bomb that the update on their injury report but nobody listed yeah at least that Ryan -- and Keith Ellison are out along with coy wire out for this -- that is official by the bills today. Update on the injury report. Armed thank you for your participation lots of fun this week will pass on the firing squad that the U of W fellows. And -- saint -- time same bat channel next Tuesday as we recap the game the Buffalo Bills and look for -- on the road. At Cincinnati but the next time so long everybody"