PFW in Progress - 9/25/2007

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[1:39]" are right I'm glad you stopped here PFW progress were here for another week of -- talk -- patriots dot com. Web radio is that on the email address it web radio is it just -- compliment -- 5 -- five -- seven. You know we try that it -- wait 5437482. If you want to call with that more more people calling me they realize that we get so many emails that the only way to get on well. Like five ratio. Well Fred hits on zip Paul -- Gary's here where is Andy he's you know -- W's the only guy in the World Series of six days as the W that's ratings crap I mean obviously he's me like seven calls the PR department and Paul -- wrong here. When you do -- PFW you like called football operations in the PR department try to get accurate I whether I well I will confess that I have actually inquired on a couple of every now and then everybody's like -- phone calls -- like the last two hours he has to like big salad seriously and perhaps not not generally with the with PR it usually vote you know football operations now a check is on CBA question or something like that I want to make right -- exactly right you guys are referring to our weekly asked PFW column patriots dot com. -- is always every hesitant. Whenever he does for the papers even nearly as bad as BMW Purdue's. That it's a very highly red section of it -- come. -- hoping people can find with the new layout opened again now it's a great great and other confine last week. -- person well a lot got asked VFW's wonder why we stop doing us via W. Once so what's that writing in my I didn't I thought -- on Tuesday could -- it -- Friday. Is that I don't know so if there's problems that aren't useful to fix them I think I think if it happens at -- under attack haven't seen an outcry. You have now how many will represent an outcry because I'm going to start saving them more than two okay I'm going to start saving them from. But if -- I don't understand. It's right there icing it every Tuesday I mean I don't I I I don't. You know no have to do some ship that five thing or something that crystal me about. And I had no -- never ever thought what I'm by myself that while he shouldn't have to do that well that's what I have to -- together if -- five. Is that what it is not chipped outside and that's clearing I don't. Clear your cash GA that excitement -- minutes afterwards posted you might have to do that I mean we'll see this week -- Okay anything else we have trouble finding on the site we're I don't know look at this very busy for you once told me remembrances. You know distinct please. Everyone thinks Tampa based site is great. But really just a lot of bells whistles I think we're gold in the bells and whistles directions and actually we simplified it once -- news the other side is is multimedia how much more simple it'd be. I mean that's what it is really -- up over this okay. You know why you don't like the kind of the -- Mel like the cutting his chip are right web radio pages that covers email address its web radio it pages that come. Have a lot of emails -- area but now pretty we need to talk about. The game what a game another 38 point. Output by the patriots offense the only problem I have -- outplayed that team again. Why because or is that it's boring to watch the bills -- its image one yet actually have to feel sorry for you know with all. Now the guys going down in a pack -- now and."

[5:37]" their bad -- and and I I'd just like going to buffalo to begin. Bob like -- go to -- this -- here yet he's go on the ball's going to goto the most accurate statement ever said yes is what we Barry go to buffalo this year doubles fashion statement ever said as we were drive into the in buffalo in the Boston -- said this is like Berlin Germany circa 1944 on the that was exactly what looks like it looks like a post war Germany and now they have this team in other respects our buffalo listeners but you know -- the suicide rate -- in the recruitment -- and -- I thought they cover the 17 points because I thought they -- walked the first quarters though -- that's exactly what happened -- admitted it and have a great week of practice. And the -- they just want to make him do. Well that was the first we heard about that bad week of -- why don't gonna tell you -- we feel what are we are we now hearing like what made it a bad week that we don't know they just said that we I would have all it is we'd have a very good week of practice Brady mentioned in -- And that's human nature and -- that very emotional win against the chargers and you got the worst team in football comedy your house -- just human nature nothing you can do."

[6:49]" I kind of agree with that there's you know some ebbs and flows that he can't really control you can -- and and now on you know I know in -- for the all access guys ballots talked about it after the game saying you know I give you guys credit for turning it around. Eyes quickly but that you know we practice like that we're going to get -- we're going to get -- And I think you know just it was note -- talked about after the game. And that was certainly at the net two resonated in the locker. And as great as everybody say this team is that potentially could be throughout the season is it fair to say. That we really don't know yet because of the competition you -- sudden we don't know are you don't know anything about I mean. Bill says about Simon and continuously you know before. Every -- I I happen to agree with something bills as I conveniently use that immediately it was a game the next three years but I think they'll always talks about you can't really tell what team is at this time a year I don't -- I -- let's let's just -- I think two years at the -- Super -- I don't. Right but my my point is a team has developed its identity yet. And even if you're three you know -- morneau and you want to win -- Super Bowl you're going to likely be playing better football. Down the stretch through November and December on to play ups even if you start off at a high level at the patriots are right now. Chances are your identity is going to further be established as you go along and I think that's been Belichick football -- even go back so. The debacle that was the 2000 season bills first year here -- a bad team so bad in fact that he didn't feel like. He had 53 players though worthy of NFL rosters -- to start the season went. Down the stretch that you they've played better yeah. On a very bad team that was talent efficient. They played better so they always seem to hit their stride doubt that last 16 years ago and into the playoffs and natural or with -- now."

[8:42]" And there are good team I mean you can just look at it that we don't know there -- just by all right well they're doing what good -- should do to weaker competition which is blowing them out. Well the way -- sea of -- There's going to be Cincinnati it'd weekly the cowboys got two winless teams comin' up they should probably would both those games so you look at it 25 -- teams in Dallas I think that's what you see how local it is this team they -- just. Destroy the cowboys or is that going to be games I think that's going to be your first real big measuring stick we thought the chargers were. And I am not take anything away from that way in which you look at the chargers the where I I I totally Hewitt Hewitt still a great pets as. They still had all of the emotion and writing and San Diego even if they don't independently yet still has that now. But -- you -- feel that the one -- that the -- can't -- that -- might be able to -- the -- throw the -- on the -- receivers -- there's an element -- but it didn't seem to bother -- last year. You know move no I held -- to say in as good as as patriots team is I think the one thing we haven't seen yet is and can a team with good receivers and a good quarterback keep the ball on the field going to."

[9:48]" See that this weekend just don't think that that that team they're playing this week as a decent as a whole week I don't think they have any complimentary parts to go without a running game. That's good enough when they have a good offensive line when healthy he's an offensive line and I I I just don't think they have they're complementary parts with the France. To force a couple of -- and you know Rudi Johnson in I don't know what the deal -- of the running game and in Cincinnati but it hasn't really been. Factor at all -- I don't think you can be -- just doing one thing. And what was the biggest key I thought the colts last year and that playoff game once just Manny Manny was fantastic. But they kept writing it -- as well. And now they were balanced than. The pick the pitchers are on their heels a couple years ago I don't think -- would -- tried to do what they did you know in that second half by you know by running the ball as often I think it would just."

[10:38]" On the way everybody makes it I'd say it's what anonymous in the past when the patriots got a lead really on anybody but it particularly Manny they forced him into mistakes in this time. Because he has a running game and because he was program tonight anyway they played amazingly in the second half. That complementary -- I -- if you know the defense gave up some points in the second half but they definitely -- most yeah -- for because most of those points if you remember right from the kickoff returns I had two long kickoff returns in the second half want to set up a touchdown I want it's gonna feel that's right so the other managers."

[11:11]" See how the -- I -- I think the patriots win because the balls I don't that the eagles have a defensive stop them. But I I'm Anderson the other side of the ball how does that deepen the secondary Galapagos which means -- Johnson has -- asked before -- on the year. This is kinda rehearsal last season. -- the patriots -- with no chance to win and that's not a good spot for the bagels are like the chargers they don't know you put pressure on me like the talk a lot before game right. Now they're going in with no chance to win -- relax -- going to be lose -- that's going to be an interest in part of the game I think. Marvin Lewis is he on the hot seat only I kind of think he's much hotter. I think he's no one of these long line of guys that have good coordinators just don't notice it coaches I don't know Marvin Lewis personally have never spoke no. On you were least on hand for press conference yet. With him he was I didn't care for his response may be developed so no do you hold -- speak I don't ask the question. He came in talked in after after they got walloped a home game they're supposed to win and he was like. Does come down everybody it's one loss it's not the end of the world I'm sorry I don't want Michael acted like that. After you were supposed to beat the patriots home and you got destroyed in every aspect of the game I don't come now and bill would never. Now has built built looks like. Like he lost the Super Bowl after a pre season and looks like death he would not how he would not come to the podium and they count on everybody that's what I want my coach I want him to be so hurt by a loss he could barely speak. -- against Bill Parcells say throw open their mouth a little bit. And I -- that's the way it has to be in NFL's not a novelty -- well adjusted people it's life and -- for them."

[12:53]" Well we're going to talk more about that game but I on the phone right now is Craig from South Carolina Craig how you --"

[13:00]" good. Yeah yes and he oh and an -- indictments -- this morning about our first real talent being balanced. Now I know guys. It appears you know you know early. -- years that we very I mean last year and her ears it's safe to say. We have you know -- Wellemeyer and very very impressive against -- yesterday if you things okay. First and foremost. -- Dallas. Look so great on top the guys."

[13:45]" As they have a great offense if you say anything other than that you're wrong so this you can in this call right now. I world they ranked number two in total offense they have a running back who's good. They have receivers -- on the field they have a good tight and they have a quarterback that in the -- offensive line is playing great. Where you watch it."

[14:05]" I would like in the same thing you watch it but you also know it as an expert you also know. The team that you're playing against their offense has. Some effect on the ability of era sensible form. I want to say that I'm saying that in that if you look at the stats for the second third and fourth quarters. Of that game against Chicago. Chicago -- was on the field but 32 45 minute."

[14:37]" And I say that for the jets and the bills and the how to do you think Chicago's defense is correct."

[14:42]" Oh I think it's very good absolutely."

[14:45]" It's pretty impressive that they were able to school -- you know enough points to win against one of the best defenses in the league. I mean yeah. They can make an argument either -- and I think should not as -- this is one of the best aren't differences if you want to cowboys Craig you're on the wrong side of the ball -- him you can't there be another decent idea was it to see the tackle yeah -- on the -- those statements out notes thanks -- yeah some good. There -- no. You're on the wrong at all Craig."

[15:13]" Oh five pro bowlers did not -- between third quarter. And and every single war emblem essentially covers definitely. That you at break out yet -- it was you know pretty much more one on CO you know didn't have a great for. It would be covered. But what are your guys are you linebackers in the middle get on me ericsson currently would you -- the -- sentiment Nathan Vasher. "

[15:43]" Anyway the bottom you know I everyday -- big -- way -- and barber ran over to guys those were two starters classy kid you lately about the fact in the first half. Patrick treatment is inexplicably dropped accuracy I -- was like Reggie -- I've ever seen that was I hit I was going to definitely it's a press -- an exercise in the problem with -- it was coming from but the next call should be. In that progression all the patriots haven't played anything any good -- you know they finished they scored 30 points in three games in three bad deep and gives that I don't say you know so hole -- yet I can't argue against Dallas I started arguing asked -- just say no I certainly would make an argument is that the patriots you know I think you know -- right now. I think they're playing -- pocono what was -- about -- yet if you're gonna talk about the cowboys 35 at all that's going to be pretty good overall that's going to be the first task now you know Tom obviously is much more emotionally attached and I am. I personally think the patriots. That deep sense to me doesn't scare. You know with Dallas I think their offense has a chance to move the ball -- date I think -- I think Dallas will get -- good running back I that's -- will move the ball on offense I am very impressed with their offense and believe me it pains me to say it. Because obviously that has been one difference with that offense over the last year. And I was taken -- but -- so if anybody would be start and say it's not decorated profits would be me."

[17:03]" And in India -- talk about that yesterday on another radio show. The key to that defense will be the rookie Anthony Spencer because he started coming on against the bears and if he can rush the passer a little bit that'll help the markets where. There's days you know felt was asking about where against light in the you just have wears a pass rusher you can stop but if you get another guy rushing the passer. Because that's how you got to beat the patriots. You know you have to you have to beat the patriots by getting to the quarterback in playing tight on the receivers these teams like. You know some of these teams that are played so far who played off the receivers and send three men don't even bothered by faster the game of applicable to do against Tom --"

[17:40]" Mark right well we'll look at ahead here we shouldn't be we want to focus a little bit on the game that was just played in the one coming up getting back to the game again Randy moss with a huge day 115 yards five catches that last catch. I mean it looked amazing but I don't know if people understand how hard it is to catch a ball over your shoulder like that on the run with a guy. Greatly over over you in in just. Stick it out your hand at the last. They're calling it anything Randy moss does better than anyone I've ever seen is when the ball is in the year we notices him training camp. He doesn't put his hands right he doesn't get a late second doesn't give it away it's amazing it's like disappointment is as he has allow the ball right there unbelievable because I'm pretty thorough it's an amazing skill that he's gotten it -- you can't teach you don't see very many other receivers doing what he does running game we talk going in the last week that we weren't concerned. I'm even less concerned -- but they had a great game again though it's against the bills so who knows but you know when teams want to stop the run they could stop the run on the problem with the patriots is. You just --"

[18:50]" Focused you know and when you're talking about the stuff that you just don't know about yet I was I would leave the running game in that. I don't have enough information going to have because in and well you know what his chance to -- wholly or not find out because they haven't done it to a game yet where they've said. It's like the funny any situation -- a run the ball every game. You know the jets -- that -- the ball little bit at the beginning of the game more than the other two games but. Most of the carries all three games have been in the second half when they've been well ahead and it just you know a team is already beaten. Let's put it this way if you can't run a ball then you can never run the ball and it you know -- patriots credit they've running very well late in all three games but. I just I don't know enough about the running game yet because I haven't seen a -- too tight ends you know maybe a full back in there and say. You know what would run the ball three times here."

[19:41]" For in the first quarter for first down doesn't mean I can't do it deserves it and try. Well I mean. I you know so far so good you know again it let's let's -- so good about it stayed well let's let's see as far as the running game and I mean every let's let's see what happens when they come up against Pittsburgh who's got a good offense or even the colts. If as -- as Sanders the other thing too Fred as a teams I don't think that great like maybe Philadelphia okay. If you come into play the first quarter like they did against the bills -- a team like Philadelphia if you're not -- they have enough talent that you on Sunday. So they're schedule is tough not just the teams like Pittsburgh and gals in the -- even the teams that may not be great are still much more talented than last year's bunch of the alliance and the Packers in the vikings' sex so that's why I think it's going to be tough to run the table. Because you have so many talented teams coming up you could get a week we're just not -- the point yesterday. The the ravens have no chance of beating the patriots have an offense -- but the ravens beach yup. Physically and that next week I think they have Pittsburgh like Philadelphia. The stretch like that it's going to be hard to go 60 you know I personally. I can't quickly losing games we could not talk about all this 60 you know perfection madness just worry about -- think his chance for. Well I mean they're even talking about an ESP and that I request now I think that's it that's great ESPN I was an hour or so from Randy moss as a dog to all -- Randy moss is what it trying to jinx the patriots -- what did you. There's nobody that wants the -- and I just patriots fans don't you think after three weeks the hawk as a little. You know -- if they go into Indianapolis beat the Colson -- met by a week if we could start off. If they're undefeated yet absolutely getting let's get by the colts that I think you start thinking about it yes so then I just look at it as in my opinion. And again -- absolutely right it's -- three games. But in my opinion all 16 games they can take the field with a better team. As of right now I don't think I don't think it that it happened a lot of times over the past. -- to while giving them 49ers took the field with a better team have been virtually every week. How many times how many years how many years -- that -- that they have the best team and and football hands down. He he -- medium and maybe why they were pretty good. And there went 15 won a couple times in 65 -- saying if if you adapt to it there's a chance. That's all I'm saying is they can people just right missing right as an impossibility I don't think is that it's impossible while it's not. I mean he is at -- and they cannot exit at -- every record gets broken. You know if it's always they're going to -- 21 in a row so we -- what is it that's impossible we -- if we were -- Pittsburgh football weekly -- football weekly -- to talk about the same thing now because they're not -- I don't think I ain't gonna take their -- everybody well from what they -- you know -- all three teams what do you think that Pittsburgh is a better team than than -- talent wise probably they gonna play -- going to -- right. So they can't make that claim in my opinion. That they gonna take the field 16 times as the better team. His left and the playing in July that particular -- you know. I think you're getting mad because Pete you looking at a -- logical -- yet logically they're not going to go on to the odds are against the odds are overwhelmingly stacked against that. But but its highest I don't say all right we're talking about it too so. I'd and I and I would agree with that I think it's silly ideas pianist Isaiah where Todd Martin as if that your private -- we've done if you couldn't if you if you if you go and beat the colts I think yes you have a legitimate chance because not only are you one defeated. But now you have that confidence where you -- and you beat the team that's beaten you the last few times. You gonna get that emotion right now I don't know I'll stop now. Do you think that Belichick would say you know what we're going for this or what he shut things -- got to be given -- can also was shut things I think first of all I don't think it's really in his nature to shut things down much it's in his best interest to do so in terms of a -- whenever. Now that's a big question what if he likes history what are what's more important. Having you guys if you have you -- the guys maybe if you win a single that -- or -- defeat but I think Tony -- made a huge mistake a couple of weeks ago a couple of years ago he shot it now like at week 13 right -- all the Broncos to -- a couple years ago to -- that as well where they had I don't like that if you're going into the final week like the patriots do when -- what was starters we -- the -- next week. I think that's okay but just our guys don't like right after thanksgiving I think you make -- a huge mistake we have football team I think."

[24:20]" I think it's all situation only taken a case by case basis if the patriots that are what's the patriots a 13 you know and they have you know three or four game lead -- the the number one seed. Now you have a dilemma because now you wonder involved -- take these last well but but let's say for argument say Thomas writes in Indianapolis. Once you know what's what's Indianapolis as one loss their loss of the patriots as you head down like we 12 week 13 maybe Baltimore has one lost they lost the patriots. And all the the colts played it the ravens late in the year two so that might be an impossibility but if you still fighting in and you don't really wrapping up until. He gets the point where you're like 14 you know okay now we had a wrapped up. Not close enough that the -- to say it's only -- game right you know -- but if you're if you're 12 -- when you have a four game lead. That's a little bit tougher couple ideas -- birdie them all over the -- first of all one of those games against the jets you don't have to worry about that they'll do that obviously obviously going to play it out of him latest fighting it down here's my question. You're 14 at all. Okay and yet everything wrapped up. Can you live with yourself now so I was answering that close enough now that's that's my yeah point if you're close enough. That it's not really you know what's what's two more games -- I have a week off -- the body can take is that -- all where we are going later if if here. -- yourself -- Tom -- football -- try -- something that -- other -- myself -- Tom -- broke -- Covering a kick well. Which -- you -- I like Arnold and I beat Goran or the middle -- are really -- when you don't need to know Andy -- in total I'll have to say is we do the things that are in the best interest the football team until someone who's only got a one. Well I don't it was a great game but I do have to nitpick and that call the Brady sneak that he fumbled on why. Why you have a million ways -- according to later in the game there on this Junior -- that are right around the same spot in the field later in the game. And you know -- out every able command riddle gets knocked over Sam gets caught up in the washed and Alison Brady's getting sacked and yet throw in on. -- the ones that explains the -- for the touchdown why me. It might be to believe that Corey don't is the only man on the planet capable of running the ball one yard. I don't know. And a lot of practice -- the fifth -- a I just don't understand why you know just run the ball like you know get -- anymore seems to be it would do find them. Put him I agree but I think and it spun off axis obviously Tom is given asses you know -- lectures about probably not going to happen 66 you know at all."

[27:08]" Six under you have to talk here we go wrong guy this guy's he's guaranteeing the -- not guarantee -- like -- and it's got a week went up to 37% chance you gotta like the way as you are entitled to begin that that's my -- We gotta we -- right away -- heart makes of that. -- the radio -- bagels 60 at all give you my paycheck for the week if they don't we just happy about anything that's already Armstead if they go 60 you know I'll give you a paycheck as an okay. I'd be -- to offer anything up about half do. So if they go 60 you know -- in his paycheck and it's the Indy heart show instead of the Mike -- show for a -- he -- already gave -- that -- okay. Well I'd say if they go 60 you know either one of those that -- can you -- are hurting yesterday thread people were reeling me in. Like a least ally via we can't -- all all well I had yelling at me for being too positive. I don't know what's happened around yeah I would probably need our largest -- media --"

[28:02]" Right Sorrell world how well I'd -- smart is it's not an I think their identity how I. I don't care I want you -- team that was far less talented that I saw went -- when he won games in a row these this is only 16 ultimate challenge I I think. Like I said before you get down here and I think they're going to take the field as the better team every game that's what I wrote and and I. I quick I don't think every -- I don't think. All the you know and Tom brought up a good point you know San Francisco I'm sure at times with bill Walsh -- made that point and he goes you know whenever. But I I just don't think it happened a lot. I don't think a lot of times and it probably won't happen this time but I think there's a -- I don't think you're crazy for saying it could. In mid am being added I am saying it could maybe champion and I -- homer to put. Don't really think it's that close in terms of talent with like Indianapolis -- one guys worried -- like last year I -- the cold that even after the Steelers -- that you guys until -- the schedule and -- you guys -- you do in -- you're just getting too caught -- but all the -- all the -- you tell whether it's not a stellar article the colts are close to the patriots not even in the hands -- any state not even in the -- and they're a one dimensional team you -- it out see you -- set I was very impressed with their defense. I don't know I don't know when he 40 Houston. He used to could be one of those up and coming into -- been one of those up and coming teams but. What do you base in the Durham your impressive the first game that I saw some when he has the right curse theory that teams yet to win I understand and they -- a historical talent. But I just -- while they were to have I don't I haven't you out of town on offense nominal that they have a talent in. I think the patriots have a better defense I do but I just to say that all of a sudden that game is meaningless in the patriots literal over the colts now -- you said that me he said that's a meaningless because it won't be -- I heard of -- did you say that I said it's 42 point four he said it's a meaningless game. Why don't meaning -- immediate need they wouldn't tell you they -- for the -- the patriots singles game with another touchdown for the colts the -- farm team. Five I'm juggling that par -- the angles and the colts. An excellent. That I am I gonna go to like -- well just the -- of the web radio it figures that comes email address five away five with three so I think or eight to isn't Kobe -- angles ten times in a row and my son's little."

[30:26]" John in palm based on the zero John high era's of the good what's -- true -- questions guys okay. And repeat this year true roots look at like your right now go to. Oh sure -- I think -- If you great Willey asked does patriots will go loose points a game this year."

[30:58]" I say I bring through all they'll lose their recognize that your you know the reason why we don't think Randy I while speaking for myself is. Eventually teams are going to start focusing on the start playing better teams that I try to take him out of the -- then you start getting the running game you start it is all work the ball right it's -- switch is not going to I deceit and everybody -- he's not going to have write a record amount of touchdowns for him but they won't all go to moss because. It is the NFL teams want to shut down a particular thing they can do that but they do a better team the better teams right"

[31:32]" school in this way through. -- and loses by halftime more than 40 points with the patriots this week -- real everybody is saying true. You know I should say it but I'm not. Casino okay I thanks John."

[31:50]" All right it's done at palm bay to a policy should have email. Some call -- wanted to make it even though they wouldn't get it right already -- clock that's right especially the way you read. I have never -- on the way now. That the reason why you came down yes I don't scheduled for today who -- schedule Paul you and I I was also sent down to promote this thing you -- could just do yes that's this is is -- the let me tell you about talking about the game coming boots with the cowboys. So wonderful place isn't patriots in depth on that day if you're not lucky enough to put out at Dallas see the game person here at the stadium. -- investments clubhouse you can see that game watch the game here win is. Patriots hall of Famer Stanley Morgan as well as wow. Pro football hall favorite John -- and like 25 other alumni in the picket I'm only 25 O'Clock. Which is -- I mean Andre took that as just an afterthought as well as others it doesn't of these now. But go downhill and I don't know I'll head out mortgage tipped it grow get Nelson Brock. Max lane and we've reached the afterthought in others and others but note that be a ton of guys there. Hands up here interest at 25 runs gets in the door you watch on the big screens that Dallas Cowboys game with these patriots greats October 14. In I guess you can go to patriots dot com slash alumni slash alumni to while buy your tickets so it's a great take they're going fast and I guess."

[33:23]" If there's going to be an opportunity to have your picture taken with the three Super Bowl trophies they'll be. Raffles -- cheerleaders cheerleaders so it's going to be an awesome and it's basically the if the cowboys can beat the rams this week is the rams historically give them trouble on the spot goes to feed. And is Steven -- well I don't value I can just picture me on the couch yelling at which -- call -- for getting guys can see what they can win this game. Even have to five -- teams to five penalties so it's going to be an art Howe was killed awful awesome way to 25 bucks bring the whole family. You know. You don't have TO you don't have Randy don't have silly common that it's at home bring everybody doing. Include classic keep doing that it's it's Canada's. Sounds like old guy this is John Hanna at my feelings my neighbor download the podcast in good does sound better. -- holiday comes on -- I don't understand why it was don't it was kind of the same guy. The little. Little guy in handers and -- our web radio pitches that com Paul is just in gross in the ninth 2007 facts and figures knowing that doesn't come up big for me I wanted to actually looked up what what's the record for touchdown receptions that season. In the Tampa and Jerry rice senate they don't have it that is have most touchdowns in season John Alexander. Priest Holmes Marshall Faulk obviously it doesn't go by Jerry rice that it was either -- heater. -- so he's saying something's gonna happen it's never happened before is what. And when I was you know what I do for receivers usually -- that was going to happen I do with the receivers of Jerry rice never did it it's not going to happen that's highlight and it because he's the by far the best that ever played the game in I don't know -- you know he's got a good quarterback but only on the football to -- So if he can't do it it's tough to do. Okay which -- that's another discuss what we had yesterday with what's going on right now could Brady be making the jump to the greatest quarterback of all time. Series of discussion because of he was so successful with questionable talent all of a sudden you given talent and he's completing now I know it's it's three games he's knocked him completely senate bill that was accident -- Like I did what. Because he's never given talent like before they could have been what is -- Bulger -- GM yet that end I just don't it's not always easy to just you know put together and let's be honest this is worked out better than anyone could have expect -- there was -- pretty good idea but -- you know my point -- last year -- is still -- intentionally didn't -- five. Because you didn't do anything -- help yourself in in two different off seasons and one on one of which you left yourself in the situation. With the Deion Branch aftermath to just not have any receivers and clearly. You rectify that mistaken and admitted as such here. -- was -- I think -- you have to start talking -- that -- people -- talk -- he's -- Montana because -- success -- good receivers -- we're -- still think -- I don't think he'll finish his -- I -- at some point. Though it'll be -- like -- was -- have another optional might go to that thing I think it took my opinion legendary status is when he went. Kansas City when he was 37 and let him in the AFC championship game against buffalo and agents and their -- yet -- he got hurt early on in. You know active. I I."

[36:59]" There Q I think that I think Tom Brady will retire as a patriot as long as he doesn't try to extend his career beyond the point of when he's really. That the physical tools I think he get guys like -- Amos who ended up going to the rams and you know he was beyond it. You know in the just didn't want to pay him anymore. You know. I think kills if if he doesn't want to extend his career till like 383940 years old I think you'll stay injury. -- know who's to say he's not going to be productive at 38. Well he might be but in this quarterback and nearly a third level production for a sluggers -- that they -- years FL don't wanna do that 30 now. Right he's 30 so eight years in 90s do you think he's going to want to play -- ball that long I mean that guy that I hours a magazine I don't know maybe he's going to wanted to as the cardinals when he 15 would be beyond -- mr. when he 13 as the repair -- they go out together. I I I tend to think right now that he will retire a patriot my guess is what made. My guess is that he would but I understand what Toms and you know even the best analyst what I what I was thinking like."

[38:08]" jet would get rid of him. Like if there's a point where he's not quite as Gracie Allen I always he would that would I was only so that's why I was bringing up the 33 because I think another coach might not. I think if -- if Belichick -- and point 13 -- Brees the quarterback in. Joe -- yeah you're right then Joe -- is he brother Tom Brady -- her out only -- try to run Tom Brady out of town and that's you know -- TO -- you know what kind of level of production as it's not necessarily how old is. You know what if he's 30 last what 36 -- and all of a sudden there's a precipitous decline right that's when you get into the palatable kind of moves and we -- injured he's as stubborn as anyone if people start to doubt him. He I think he has a better chance of retiring successfully. Dan if he has to I a year guys are both as you want to keep my guys are both right that's happened in my opinion of every got -- they wanted to go with young so I think a situation like -- would be the only lately if I'm not talking necessarily an injury I'm talking you know a little decline in his play. And that can happen I mean let's face -- not ever you can't just. Maintain the same level play now Marino stuck with Miami through his decline in play right. He definitely the last 345 years was not anywhere near the same quarter yet people still say it set him back a decade but -- if they stuck with them and I don't think bill will do. My point -- that he is in Naples."

[39:26]" Lord -- how are -- going to do -- if this is brad and I don't know who you're trying to call -- W them. I just couldn't recognize the -- voice over the phone that well mechanically is only -- we this 16. Hey guys you know good news story on the radio. Understandable that -- beat -- it was 80."

[39:52]" Well actually now who's talking about how long at all I don't jump to I don't know maybe throws and with the patriots. We just enjoy. We we do we think it was -- straight always spent the pretty were actually -- talking about on 16 -- Alice Miller we were comparing it to Joe Montana that's all the talk we were wondering if he's going to be better than Joe why piano when it's all said and done. We started talking about Montana's career and what happened. And I kinda did -- in -- while we're talking about the fact that they're ridiculous start when they surround him with talent. Vaults him to and one of the the greatest quarterback about time -- bulls may be a fourth MVP great now everything he could move past month you know that was the line which to check out. Whatever Brady's that you would ever radius is the one that came first. And then and I something -- other. Yeah I think it's a little bit of both but if you're asking me who I'd rather have all take Brady give me another receiver can be Donte' Stallworth -- that a mall of moss and he'll make him look better look good too. And he -- great but. Brady's --"

[41:03]" I don't know if he gets obviously got to remember you know these in the -- you always. At the time I want to add on top and I think when you owed back into this going to it was on top of the game. It -- to be that argument who's better muscle or you don't want to answer this question. Well I know Utah might know which way are going to go back."

[41:22]" I -- said that two years I think overall boss is the best deep threat of all time I think but if you ask you meet with a bat better overall receiver is going over the middle we're not talking about mental states here when I talk -- double the team. Just pure physical ability I think it's deal I'd go Moscow I think he has better him I was going to sit here now as you think there's any -- as a competitor Islamic hands you know drop this year I think DL has -- has -- balls on his drop any -- and -- years maybe he'll catch early last year. I heard on the -- It we did not a ball is totally agree with his argument because I heard you conceded -- Clinton also has softer hands and kiosk experience I mean you don't hear much I think TO has better speed and breaks more tackles -- eagles across the -- more -- and speed now you know."

[42:10]" He basically just being either huge beast but I just think would come -- receiver. It just like you know just logic and that yeah while it's but he probably catch of whether it's good to."

[42:20]" I understand but if TO was here connection ball as -- BC and pretty much the same thing you'd be saying how great -- always -- so I don't think he's at that he doesn't have the -- you guys -- I think it's yeah you're right he can't catch he can't catch it and I'll only saying aideed and his a year. For -- one of us get off you are all yes -- more he can talk. Well I. Hitters so don't throw shooting contest or something they have it's you can't take it when people turn the -- on -- he is so mad about his cowboy you're you're literally beating Chris Ferrari here with the -- not -- assume would. You then you haven't watched -- European Chris has or doesn't wet ball anywhere near Randy moss I submit RBI balls as better chance of Iowa always -- it's a nice about it receivers haven't good and that's just getting opening catch the ball the -- experience on receivers and let's face -- their numbers are pretty similar right. Over the over the course of their careers are very sensible there's smoke coming out of I times here -- as a president of PFW putt and it I cowboys I actually can't believe it didn't comeback wouldn't -- as -- I know. I concedes that -- could see the smoke coming out right now. Continuous hot. When that we're about to have go exactly what I think god where is Godzilla right here in the -- the capital. I was when I -- Indies that nicked up I always put -- have been -- hornish out of Brian if it was ever going to -- out on Sundays ago I wanted to throw him back actually I didn't want to grow up just I just want this -- left and that's about it. Are able to take a break him out holed out just say no comment that comes down 90 might have snuck through there we we have a lot of emails we'll get to right after this. The web master takes it a little hard when the PMW boys give them the business."

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[45:56]" Drillers this'll play Georgia man let me today about the first ever game with the greats and you -- former football players talk about we're watching the game when you can find out for yourself first ever game we were very October 14 Angeles stadium watched the pacers take them cowboys fidelity investments. Along with me. Bunch of my teammates and other major wanna guys like -- tidbit Steve mills Steve Grover and B -- will be there with you enjoy the game just -- out tickets are limited because their own 25 dollars. I just. Page and click --"

[47:08]" right we're back here things have calmed down a little bit the studio. Toms back you are right town called you okay. Is that we don't want any idea we don't want it really just being in the -- right. You don't you don't -- so you guys all know guy I want to the patriots to get oh wait before they got Randy moss issued a both buddy you know TO what was he saying. You never know maybe rights deals we keep -- really trade me release me. Our web radio what pitches that comes email address right that's going to be a fun I don't know about that game though we go to at a Dallas Tom what's. I might be able to trust you go down there now. Are you going to like end up running. Cross field news well -- an error by -- the great games I think guys like he always Moscow will themselves they have Greek games -- played against each other right so I think it's going to be a show. The patriots by got more bullets in the gun salute runaway at the end but -- while you are you going to be okay I'll be fine you know sleep the night before. Sure I don't know man the patriots are the better team if the cowboys were late 90s I always -- about the I've talked about you are you going to be okay you know when he -- I just -- that he some type of break. -- this is the you know big big it's a big game I hope it's entertaining okay good let's -- there will be there's no way that game in champion -- you guys on the ankle by Roy Williams."

[48:37]" That doesn't want doughboy it bounced right off that was all guerrilla tackled. Alexy Sampson is there's a lot of tackles and -- but missile ever gotten possessions -- him. Sampson is from a base in Montana. I don't think we've heard -- he says he's been a huge Gary at the pins out Pat's been since he was six and watched them get crushed by the bears Super Bowl 20 just wanted to tell you I really enjoy the show. Soliciting -- my iPod since your draft show. Well I also wanted to ask a couple of questions artillery cover these topics. I don't get to download the show until Friday night why are you guys is concerned about this koskie is I -- this bad feeling that he's going to miss a crucial kick at some point possibly cost the team we gave. What about the scouts."

[49:24]" Not that concerned that not as concerned if you I am I and slightly concerned. But until he you know shows the inability to make -- pressure -- Really shows that this is all in his head in all mental I just think it's one of those little rights I think last year I think people forget because. Overall he was so good last year it didn't start off great. You know first couple games he it was a -- it was a -- a very short kick that was blocked right in the meadowlands against the jets. You want to make -- 20 out of 26 he was perfect in the playoffs you know. In -- misses a really important -- I'm I'm not going to be overly concerned at the -- game closer than touchdowns for it yeah that's true I'd -- to when he went do you think Stallworth will break -- have big game I think he's do I think that more teams are going to have to start doubling -- potentially leaving room for stalwart they have a few few -- think big -- game. Will be five or six catches 40425 yards and a TD here too. That qualifies as they were pretty boys anywhere until touchdown the 120 yards and -- that last week by 400 and something. And 15 the problem is if martz is being double team if he's out there usually Stallworth is it. So I'll Stallworth played a lot with moss little bastard he's played tennis camps and that he will get his plays there's going to be some place yet and the other thing and it seems like this is taken I think I'm a little bit -- with apologies -- it hasn't gotten to this but. This to me this indicate like he's not playing well he's doing. He's not a hasn't had any opportunities not as good as Randy moss why would go somewhere else right and pulled you don't -- to me is a waste opportunity. You know it's like you know Tom. What TO I mean did you want to the mobile Sam heard the bell who. And Patrick -- you know those catches on -- bounced off his chest frightened perhaps -- and that adds that one of the worst I was I was saying. And whatever bounced off of it was like -- you know all everybody said that you he didn't -- his hands yeah great I usually get yeah put his hands out like -- but I I think played football when boss gets double -- I think a lot of the passes are going Welker and Ben Watson to like there's. It's not just all were right loss they have a lot of options here you know yet Kevin -- come out of the backfield but there's going to be times in the CDs over from loss aside -- you know one on one matchup but he's -- go -- on the other -- I would be more concerned about that whole situation if there were times during the course of the game that Brady was going to stalwart. Or looking at stalwart -- it wasn't connecting. He may only have four or five catches on the year but. I don't think he's been thrown to more than six or seven times so generally when Brady is targeted stole."

[52:02]" It's worked out much like everybody finally and 80% of his throws Sampson says also -- the lake bed and he's is he pulling a cart -- telling these guys and going home. Maybe fright night -- hurt light bright feelings hitting. Everybody loves the lonesome kicker right keep up the good work if any -- or every month and -- Gotta go elk hunting or fly fishing look me up out bread fresh guy there I am I love fly fishing so I'm Erica has upon honestly right now he can barely -- it was a computer to go to a press conference all right you know he's he's swamped -- that I don't know he's got a lot to do. -- went great ideas and it is her life or follow that one of the few states there is not a river runs that that's where with -- I want to you know one of those doesn't with the federal government -- like 92% of Montana it might link it's it's basically just that. Part of the government I would love to go Flint, Michigan month and a -- their road well who would you like retired tomorrow -- like the coasts. Is this injury. But I love Atlanta is -- Colorado Idaho it and mine is never been to month you know. I've never been a month and I can't hear anything you're in rfk. I Garrick is says for -- Did Belichick -- was cheating I've read if it's that read please pass this along it is I just thought I'd let you know that you're right. It can stop saying that you think politics but he was cheating an E on Monday Tom Brady confirmed he said that delicate quote thought he was pushing the limit but at the same time he didn't think it was illegal so there a hundred you know I think that okay -- Brady get grounded the ball Brady -- I never read a wild as murders he legal but I know it's illegal by the way little note from the gossip columns Bridget Moynahan is going to appear on the cover of S magazine with the baby I think that bull you know wise. Exploiting him enough is exploiting the babies that are hurt yet. How does she need to go on the availability they although it would have Brady did a crap that's -- that's that. One of the most unbelievable -- never really bothers me that some ask. Oh you can't say bless you Yankee go on covers of magazines with and that's an actress can't take -- Her son. And appear on the cover of the magazine now. Do you care for three -- it's paid that's -- they wouldn't disclose how much they're paying -- nobody you can hear if she gets the guys that wears a nuclear question I don't care whether she -- and chaos -- everybody you must not like a lot of people would have Brady was in the picture. Now with those two well I don't think he went away but what if he was now and you just put that don't go on go to that. I thought what it was just and it and the species and -- she's playing -- Playing -- and psychological need that -- so right now I think. I think she's playing the same Rolen every celebrity mother does they do it -- at Indy because. I can't have to witness I can't do that in mind is based on reason to -- that opened. I can't have to him I look at it logically right let's see Dwyane once just once the warn us about getting these -- words the points it's read. I just want to you know my credit car with a lot of people need to know the -- to bring this stuff up on our show they need to know what's going -- This is an open book open look to our listeners okay. Those are allowed us are white they know more about us that we know about ourselves what does he say that I need to know -- say and that these these past which we're getting our legal. Does that back doors into the site that I run I run this let's a we thing but -- not according to this guy. What does he say he's saying daylight no because he didn't give us she passwords he gave us passwords that makes sense for us. Right but he says that that they're assassin -- I think center bleachers are we eat read it on the that's okay actually used to and I could visit water valley scenario happened to you but this -- out there that create these past words he's back to a passwords in the sites. -- it was illuminating stripper can help out doesn't show -- stripper you sound like he did okay guided me he's an outstanding individual either way if I end up in this item in the site Matt for Morgan what's the backed me up he says about that -- He says the guys actually very funny the port spoof which is the bad example of video -- up by the way should you ever have poker on your show again. You shouldn't he should never have them on the -- I guess it's always funny to hear Fred get angry but the other is a huge TO UCH -- look at that Tuesday he's -- media it's ridiculous -- brings the rest -- you guys -- hides behind the -- of asking the tough questions and being objective but all he really doesn't stir the pot -- try to create controversy in the air -- soccer people at the listening. We're not stupid Felder go sell crazy somewhere else we're all stocked up here -- quality -- into the sport tiring."

[57:13]" really succeeded in soccer people suffering people want to listen to. Stations as -- but it fledgling Felder. That was another great moment you don't you premises treatment last Friday you -- you -- going that we pitted again how you guys I was it's. That was it you slap him around. I just didn't really get physical the latest latest altercation with. I rendered -- article I would give yourself banana that's physical -- That's all there's not -- could find anybody that I know he wanted to he could throw his Diet Pepsi thing that's not that they might have blown to teach -- is from what's he got. Minnesota and let's dig in the northern like Canadian types states. He says he's been listening to this -- about two months it's the highlight of -- work. There's there's always have a terrible it's been -- ruined as the Pacific northwest and as the Norton Canadian -- what is that up there what's that technically called upper northwest I mean upper midwest. The Great Lakes area. Montana's nowhere near west that's that's considered the west Montana the west here. Then he says I country with -- another 38 point game against the bills as wondered if you could be possible to break that 98 vikings. Record for offensive points of the season which is 556. They have or they already have a 114 in three games it would be 34 points per game to tie the record. It's conceivable. Y Cia also I think so you that they can go 60 you know waited on that they can averaged 34 points again personal exactly I also think Brady is a lot on his interview on islands off he's on pace to break -- TD record off at -- you don't agree with the week three. I don't think that broke the Abigail you but I will get four or five TDs he doesn't think they'll go 60 you know because in part to win every game without that is true it is easier without one team like Dallas is that it Baltimore coming in and play well while we don't play well but he just wants to thank us for all the coverage we do online. And helps him keep. Up with the team out there well so -- thought we ask -- questions I had -- yesterday were debating this. I I think it does Steelers -- the worst 15 -- one team over in someone's that it was the vikings my intention is they -- NFL record for scoring. They lost one game at Tampa Bay by four points in lost the playoff game I missed the oval would you say out of those two. I just at the steeler team wasn't that great I mean I would I would -- if you just going to ask -- to talk about those two teams. I I think that -- he seems pretty good that's."

[1:00:00]" Life and -- I don't I think Pittsburgh was a front running team. That that ran the ball and got a hand in. All the other stuff kind of went off of that. I mean they're both great eagle 15 wonder yeah -- yeah -- were talking about which one was such for an individual season if you go 15 and one you had a great team but I would say the vikings he was a little bit better right with him right on the phone right now is Jamie from Houston any."

[1:00:23]" How you doing. Things good -- just get a few things about the patriots but I think what those dollars. Gary good they're just scary good."

[1:00:35]" I was that it -- that. And he's 16 you know good you're going to happen Bob and and you guys were mentioned as our world and -- You know I'd let you know we -- Pollard welcome homer club Paul -- and he and -- sit for Fred wants without."

[1:00:55]" tired I got -- has a lot of things you can call me that that don't really bother me run homer really really gets under my skin I'm I'm out of the club I think the only going to go 14 in to -- and he -- the flight -- after after"

[1:01:07]" and in his that I needed to -- you and you could. These days but I mean yeah I believe you're going to be an objective and our objective when we say that -- this exchanges that I let them on the bandwagon if I said they were going to go have five I wouldn't be effective. Okay maybe finds -- statement like I've seen him maybe --"

[1:01:31]" I was looking up at saint Louis by the way -- that this management 540 points in 2000. Now I was surprised by that I -- Karros."

[1:01:39]" Yes it's very Sox rumblings and how would you he's doing about where mosque is going to go. Well you know what what employers are martial art as a rebel authorities try to get a hand up or another these."

[1:01:52]" I I wouldn't. There hasn't been any talk about that whatsoever and I don't think you can hear anything I mean I'm not saying they won't have talked but I don't think you can -- now. That's what I wrote and asked if that you and I wouldn't sign him. I wouldn't sign me as I think it's it's scary how they scenario could play out like Corey Dillon he could set the record for whatever receiving put up huge numbers this year. You've given money all of a sudden he looks like an aging slowing receiver who's not quite as productive. I Christian is from -- he's build New York you know that is Ortiz -- he wants to know is there any room on the roster for Troy brown yes you know I had someone just asked a question about that. What what do they do. Put on the roster and who knows Jabar Gaffney anybody. Well personally can't go to six right there only five right now -- seeing go to six if you want to and a guy about Chad Jackson does him no chance that someone lose a role. Yet Jabar Gaffney the guy who's had flashes of being relevant role but he's played and I think Troy brown becomes --"

[1:02:55]" That's just up and breaking news NE SP and Gerry points out that Michael Vick was just indicted on state charges yet so his. Prison -- probably going to be going up. And as Harrison. Play immediately. Rarely break back in the starting line -- at a very Lee had a significant internal it's starting lineup especially based on bills hole. I feel the same with any three of those two out there right I think it certainly -- society Samuel didn't start. Even knows -- start I I'm not shouldn't read Rodney would bite I would think that he play right away -- you. I I expect him to play against the browns again you know there there's that's when. Harrison -- here. It's scary good. You know the -- best players. Jamie is from Cardiff Wales and he wants the back me up in the hole -- the -- thing -- we think it's really good at least operating these email okay people agree with -- but he always say it was really good as he thinks it's -- he's really good right but Eddie also says that -- he would like to order pop geno has for us -- they take email orders don't -- if you email exchange rate is very good it is -- been out there the pound. Let it Garrett wanted to let's -- yeah I don't partly all says page makes -- in the Justice League I was wondering if the lateral play that Welker. In moss used his one at the Pratt -- practice very often if at all -- an awesome I don't regulars in that there was moss yellen gimme the ball into the ball. I don't think you'll be seen that too much in the future but it was definitely not one that they practice. I -- it will all screaming for the ball if you look like he was saying it and Wilkerson I don't know what that a look through -- so well bill was not happy but just the sort of color analyst and in talking note Welker about it after the game I don't think you'll be seeing him I think he he looked like. A little kid who had been sent to the principal's office and will not be doing but I would probably like those -- plays that you liked the stuff. Especially united I think it's all those kinds of things to me -- I'll vote. Time and place and in my opinion the game was virtually over. And the only thing they can get you in trouble is something like that. We're unilaterally and all of a sudden a bill gets it now look I -- relatively -- I know it was state that he was the only 1 am but I'm saying. The thought process of of lateral and the only connected happen here in my opinion is something bad. They -- gets that suddenly has the ball in the open field with Don scores and suddenly there's a momentum change. Maybe you're in trouble whereas if you just go down and get tackled. The game resolve. It's it's it's mostly. You know the interceptions at the end of games you know when you see guys ran around you like just you can make it happen something -- Did you guys see the they -- the idiotic Reggie Bush won from that. That makes well there's -- safe than any player -- her kinda like that Antwaan Randle -- ones Reggie Bush won. In the go -- keep you're looking right out and pointing to a TV what -- I didn't do that sums -- like the ravens I think our coach to do -- when they get -- interception on defense they're always trying to find it read -- Lendl at all that's right -- right there they're just gonna get a score but you know what that is one of those time they play the same kind of -- of time in -- think that's a big part of their way to score points. And if the pay if you know -- the patriots were mired in you know. A low scoring game or whatever and was having trouble moving the ball. You might say that's crazy think he should do in a close game in on and a blow by. Also depends on the team right and that's that's how I felt the great animosity in general has been working pretty well -- tomorrow stability -- right now and in that sense too. -- that candies right there was no there wasn't any danger unemployed mosque was the only one and he was right next to him that was very little chance to be taken by I think bill. Being upset about that kind of thing is probably what most coaches would almost that was took control latter role -- Antwaan -- well Reggie Bush one -- like they were running on now like three guys were on avenues trial yet -- his arm out to get rid of the Randle -- one was particularly -- was -- Hines Ward had no idea of the -- commonalities after the it was like I was yelling for the ball it is it was a really really. I"

[1:07:27]" James Edwards says. That this Sunday it's the sixth anniversary of the start of the Brady era. For the New England Patriots 932001 was that date but Tom Brady's first pro football star. Anyway his interest it was a 4413 win over the visiting colts he says also could you believe how well Tom Brady and his receivers are working together. Through the first three days it's amazing how having receivers who can actually get open. Can improve your passing stats that make the game alot easier to win so does that mean it's also the sixth anniversary of my recordable time. From young Brian call you -- actually six years in like three days pumped throughout the stadium right. And he's also comparing Brady's stats to Peyton Manning's when he broke the record you know four. Some record touchdown pass that you might have. Not a lot of people have felt all I don't hear endless talk radio host don't you know hallowed course records Marino's touchdown record. He should not talk about overall no single season."

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[1:14:20]" It was Steve Burton actually job. Our web radio it pages that comes email address the info Winchester -- pay court stoker's nice to hear that brad has resolved that the pats didn't cheat. They -- just aggressively interpreting interpreting the rules in their favor sort of like Germany aggressively interpreted the quarters in in 1939. Yeah what are smile spread their great body language for Brady this season nothing like last year disguised -- brought 21 liners. I and that's pretty funny question on Brady's passing for the team everyone is pointing out the improvement in the receivers. Hey give Brady guys like Marvin Harrison Reggie Wayne and look what he can do I'm not sure that's entirely the case I watched ready last year and he was missing. Open receivers not just the long stuff. That guys like -- call weren't capable of getting the ten yard outs the screens the -- he was missing guys or occasionally maybe rarely wide open. Last year he was good given what he had but this year he's incredible I think the improvement is just as much in Brady as the receivers what you've --"

[1:15:29]" Anymore I disagree not throwing this isn't schoolyard football he's -- to a spot they have were very fine routes that are run that. Seven point 35 yards. And if that's where he's throwing -- it's it's all such timing that's what it is they throw this school in the NFL you don't wait for the -- to get open and then the roto MVQ throwing to where he's going to be open and then the perfect case in point is that ball at the end. I mean we can say about how great they catch was anyone who has been remarkable over phenomenal that -- Was dropped right into nimble and that's the only way could have been bought either had to go down or speed up it was right it was a little solace I have shoulder -- Gabriel's last year the price I paid Doug Gabriel started receiver caught mid mid year. They got a guy off the street Jabar Gaffney star receiver Reche Caldwell started every game pot at the at the end. For the season that's they had received any series in the -- they didn't cut Tom Brady. But he and decide detail you know. Pull back the -- in offense and go out of a running game because the quarterback was an accurate enough. I think we know Tom Brady is at this point and that is one of the best quarterbacks in football history and and when things don't click. In the passing game and it every pass he throws right but when things don't -- more often than not it's not his so of Brady can elevate himself. We now witnessing the two greatest quarterbacks ever playing alongside each other in the same -- What Marino in always in my opinion all item no I'm saying these two elevate themselves to the two best ever. It's such a different game -- it is it's hard to do that those rankings and stuff especially weeks -- thrown in unite us like we were doing right I ever -- united scroll past markets -- but I mean I think everybody has different taste you know you know from pure passing perspective I don't know how anybody -- you go right right -- you know Dicey -- at Indian Vince young has made as a quarterback because when the saints took the lead in the third quarter -- that the myself. That it gently of that. That's why I think -- him as the best. Because he'd get the ball 45 seconds left in the game I have this sinking feeling -- just mule he was at least it's slow down for him yeah that's why I. Give a number one -- arguably you remember people saying as much as they do about Peyton Manning and Montana you know you give. You know. You're so and so you know David O'Leary Dave Marino. Jerry rice and John Taylor and and you know Roger Craig and all these guys who would they do remember wells and that they'll -- Now wonder why they do that demanding as much as because he's always had it we've never seen anything so I was on you know is that those guys. With the Kansas City -- was let's face it you know Thompson letter to the playoffs house point is a good one but it was a shell of himself he was at a bad back. You know. He he just knew how to win. In if you reversed it we started off in Kansas City with those guys brewers would never ever -- they had Dwight Clark in Solomon Freddie Solomon orders like going to look at it was a good receivers. Politics yet how quickly says while move over 666 the new number of the -- is 38. Referring to the patriots 30 -- that on to you know the three amigos in Denver yet you know. Would have been nudged off the -- and awful by by right at my -- called -- foolish it is for or they I was back he's just shaking is an -- and it was always everybody talks about Miami and then they never had a running game in this match. Well -- that never had a running game with general will heightened Sammy winder and and knows shoe makers as I like -- But he never had receivers either. May at least he would the most honest I don't I don't worry Clayton and I I admittedly he made duper and Clayton on another team your -- would have an order where. But he that's going to make an argument for a lot of people when you start doing stuff like that I think Brady an inning will definitely be an argument at some point if -- already"

[1:19:31]" just an Alaska's is out of shape white guys I include myself in that. It's been three weeks in no one has figured out how to cover moss or is that three weeks -- no one can cover moss which what is it. In the bills game he again had a play where they were in zone in the safety didn't roll tomorrow societies wide open what's going on Paul my friend you need to tell them."

[1:19:53]" second that's incorrect on that touchdown according to. Brady they weren't that was not covered too."

[1:20:00]" Nolan that's why they went deep one that's been they read at least now. If it warning -- I don't think it was a mr. Simon a match is gone by would -- and he said the court right any. -- somebody's group because he was wide open now we want to strike the strike the songs talk about that other sideline pass. It was a for the oh ball pretty well with Gaffney or Welker on the 1 okay my bad don't want hammer down the left sideline wide open -- safety went -- There was another nice numbers in pattern they double team somebody as somebody welcome I think you -- enjoy -- and my dad. That was a different yeah I never double -- if IC Randy moss he's the guys who only know one guy on the other. -- all my spring we're going to go out later either zoom out or move the camera back -- today only your wife should be that close to that's because she has. She has to once every three months or -- so if you're good -- east. We are an open book apparently profit read I like the lead -- alone -- I didn't -- was -- don't let -- argue about that we -- know. Journalists don't have sense of humor that's why they destroy -- for a living I laugh all the time -- I you could throw pretty much anything it asks Paulie he can't stand there reaping and he says and I'm glad that everything to. -- like. The guy says balked and I like I chuckle depressed but never I -- immature as anybody that's just was enough there's never been a man named Richard I didn't laugh back. Congrats on being in new data -- paternity test will be favorable Tom I don't need any test was look at question one why it was Dallas able to ring up the bears like that it -- see that they could not stop the run or robo. It terrified applaud their defense was just breaks. -- out the issue."

[1:21:45]" Why thank -- the bears have trouble with balanced offenses that can get the ball does the cowboys have some in the a lot of teams don't have a mean we're seeing here. -- on the field and you have to you have to cover him and when you can do that allows you to run the full well they have they have a good head coach. Padilla and but here's that they dallas' -- stopped anybody a lot of people are all panel are all over Dallas but I predicted this would happen -- predicted they'd start off the year strong. I want to see what happens when they lose two games when all this you know everything's great now because only got mr. nice guy wade Phillips there giving TO game ball not complaining in the first half I want to see what happens in November and December -- that game extolling the virtues of your team in Tokyo 48 points -- That -- he's a couple of."

[1:22:30]" It's I -- had to sees me doing well at covering for Rodney when he gets back. And is Swedish will James has a flash -- chance stay out there will -- just assumed his role. He'll play Alexander stays out there for awhile anyway well waving bye see you think he starts -- at least at least initially -- I think the first game he'll start. But my guess is running of in the starting lineup by the second -- And I also I'm a big -- understand and I thought last week was the first time I saw Marshawn Lynch run right through. So that was the first mistake I've seen of the season yeah I was that's true. That was bad tackling all around them up that Rodney would -- but that's -- saying other than that I think suspect you -- the cowboys game. That was -- first start potentially don't want him out that are drawn it up with a little wind and heels head probably trying to induce stupid the other issue we -- touched on is secondary has had some guys open and a game like that against a guy like TO. That's going to get challenged me challenged obviously this week with Cincinnati but that's what we -- to prove that there is secondary can we were saying that -- at the cowboys would at least challenge of a -- from South Carolina called up until the cowboys have no offense whatsoever he'll play against all all bad teams -- and -- the offense is that it plays. The offense is that they've played have made it easier for the cowboys fans from this point ones."

[1:23:53]" Miami and in Chicago cowboys in theory should be more balanced then. Rudi Johnson 17 carries for nine yards that's all -- like I said on paper I don't think -- going to beat New England but I think they can challenge Emily we can see what did like is that the patriots kill the cowboys in Dallas. To lead -- is impressive winners they've had all year -- that I start worrying about that 60 don't know it was a page paychecks."

[1:24:16]" Alexy Alex's its efforts this choices in the long time listener and PFW subscriber since the days of seeing Donaldson. Well that -- the other guy's name is escaping me -- One -- that I was thinking about during the whole video games fiasco but which was never brought up by the media is the possible role that Ernie Adams -- plated all of this I don't want to sound like I'm looking for a scapegoat here. But it's well known that Adams does a lot of things behind the scenes it might well be in the works -- Perot. The second most influential or powerful man in the organization. Of I think I think we all talked about Andy was inactive what you take this -- just in case."

[1:24:57]" First of all I have no idea what kind of role he had in if she's involved but it doesn't make any decisions without bill. But I think Billy -- are -- silently -- that he's doing over -- yeah I mean I'm not -- and the fall guy for that but I know I I sneeze without getting in trouble with failure I think if I gets away with -- stand behind -- the statement -- he's the second most important -- I -- I could not."

[1:25:20]" I'm his official title on the patriots web site but from other sources he's listed as director of research in according to how was. Is given a great deal of freedom by belting key is to the -- what bill James is to the reds that statistician often tired much more than it seems to be that videotape at the -- all of last fall into the category of gathering data. But later statistical analysis. While it's possible that -- using it but he didn't make the decision on his own and he's a football guy that's he's a smart guy but his football and there there and his doubles statistical analysis is a is a big part of what -- Adams does but he is much more than. Bill James is it's much more James's literally eat who. Put it to use for baseball. Ernie Adams is a football guy who's also a geek. Right let's say at a good Dresser J yeah. Snappy Dresser I'm guessing a very wealthy man -- of that is from Dallas he says I heard Sean Salisbury it's an ESPN radio that after the Bengals game in the coming. Monday Night Football. Everyone will realize the best team in the world resides in the northeast New England. Nice here are illegal scary don't want us to live on the height I live in Dallas and heard all last year this is about the mavs and then the playoffs started the rest is history. Don't we -- everyone already knows the patriots of -- as a -- Charles married and it's -- really break it's not a question of simplest terms what everybody huddles and that's not a fair comparison because the -- of that team that scores plays great the regular season has never gotten over the hump. The patriots of the team that party won championships being the Detroit Pistons the team that whole thing. Now they have all the talent and they have the history of being able to get by and coaching in -- know that that's why that's the big thing may still have that coach Wright would all the talent. You still have all the intangibles quote unquote of why they want in the past and Brady -- check on that now they have the most talent"

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[1:27:19]" I'm. Matt and Quincy says -- was down at the stadium on Sunday because of my job I ended up spending most of the second half in the bills' locker room with Paul was -- me. What a great kid excellent attitude considering what he was going through very tough even though he's of bill I hope he returns completely healthy. Next season has a great career it's exactly the kind of at a kind of -- the NFL needs more of it would have made -- great patriot I did see com -- all walking down by the -- locker room after the game. It is a big fan of the show I thought about say hi. I was a little busy with work related stuff at the time. So maybe some other time. And take two seconds so now Matt from Quincy you now opened -- we need to know what you do it sounds accurate some -- we don't we don't media empire. --"

[1:28:07]" That's also imagine Quincy and friends separated is the fact that man Quincy legitimately which is pulp as well as the well and Reggie comes back and as a victory away his friend is happy that it broke as I always associate replaced with Dayton."

[1:28:21]" Regular ball that was a bad he battle they generally don't look at it was. Ballot that was Marvin Harrison I'm sorry Fred I think. Once -- many times you said to me I hope he gets hurt slash I hope he stays out slash. -- good they got but he he dominated big they'll just blows me can I give a quick little Ernie Adams bio -- that the teachers -- geek four seasons coaching at northwestern 7275. -- into the NFL with the greatest coach in patriots history chuck Fairbanks staff in 1975. In addition to his on field duties all aspects of football operations included. Computer analysis and statistical. Moved onto the giants and 79 was their director of pro personality 82 held them for four seasons the 86. Then in 91 -- bill in Cleveland so there's like a five year window there -- I don't know what he was doing well until I had another -- was impressive don't know it north western -- buddies and -- also -- just say in these -- door he got football coaching jobs on his own right it wasn't just because of his friendship with -- Any at football coaching jobs he just wasn't sitting behind a computer saying well on third and ten if baba and the saint Agnes northwestern from Reading that that that passage in halberstam book. Northwest it was really I -- and they wanted to take him a bigger role. And the putt that he didn't like was the whole recruiting aspect he was going to have to globe recruiting in. Let's face it what little we -- of Ernie Adams hasn't really been the most outgoing of personality so I could see that demand meeting that you guys were at that point was quoted work it would it would -- It was a hernia but I couldn't southern -- heard of a real quick and I couldn't see him being a Pete Carroll you know going into some you know some immigrants and it's -- a player obviously false but -- five minutes go around low blood into -- says it was a hernia. Who did it to do that. I thought that was what the real secret stuff"

[1:30:15]" Shannon Wright cities is that this just in its is terrible in no way funny although he has no talent ass clowns like Michael Bolton. Al -- upstairs is -- She's -- Michael Bolton really. I gave from the Philippines let me say celebrity Seymour but we seem to be playing pretty darn well with Jarvis in this so. Cutting Richard next year freed up enough cash to keep -- wants the problems would you do it the whole scene right handers and I'm. Now people want to cut Richard Seymour and why people think that Randy moss things about money. Now has nothing to do with money it's keeping him hungry hungry healthy happy. That's why it would have been look at Melanie is the other issue. If you see Morga they're virtually all is 30 million dollars in guaranteed either -- or our team that's true to work here when Richard Seymour and you hate Richard Seymour but -- just say what. I don't want to -- Richard Seymour to keep Randy -- As we always seem more rings of the table we'd always going to play hard. You know we know he's going to he's going to be a big part -- mostly we as a three game was going to happen next year they get a Super Bowl and are now willing to throw it what was what's -- 12346 years of -- career for three games of rainy most interest. It's always it's but it. It was hilarious that they like the married guy dump that is why your wife for the first hot blonde that looks his way but it because -- what's happening like we can see eagles touchdown passes them loss to me -- is Thomas has been just a bigger contributor on the fence and able to go to the outside allowing -- and the century should be. And as. That athleticism he brings to the middle you'll see you know what we call on the Randy -- of the deep he is the most indispensable player on defense -- similarly skilled. In that he does things and has a bill that not a lot of guys why is everybody it be accidentally right now. But it -- I think ESPN is doing obviously looking back in 1987 players strike. And it showed couple interviews with replacement players Rick neuheisel was one -- assumption on Pena and it view up with new titles that take the points he looked like he was 11. I."

[1:32:28]" I TG enjoys he says what upon by Mormon during Sunday's game and the announcers said it was 70 yards haven't thought anything like that since the infamous Eric scallop -- will be how do. Now there's a guy who knew how to kick a football such a tragedy that he's forgotten one moss moss moss moss was why can't the patriots stop anyone in the red zone. To that was one. Is that nice little player argument losing steam no yes gaining the -- the reason the pats won't go 60 you know bagels cowboys colts eagles ravens if they somehow managed be undefeated this time. When the Steelers -- will definitely put a stop to that my comment is the real deal and they could potentially take it to the house. Angles in eagles are an economy and that's been --"

[1:33:12]" I think the other only it because they're in this three game stretch that I would put them in. Conversation just because there and record at the time but my point is all the about the bills. -- now I don't know I don't like right now a little bit talent or maybe they could not the bills -- it -- that. I -- wade Phillips isn't looking like such a bad coach after row your cowboys are looking good while the chargers a is -- something there also like how these -- of the NFL's three game season also please compare the Dallas running game to the patriots since they seem to be the best NFC team right now. I'm using them as a barometer. For the AFC. Wolf I have to say right this second I think Barber's better than Maroney I think he's one of the better backs in the NFC and I think he should be getting more carries the differences. I would take Sammy Morris over them bomb Julius Jones. I just don't think Jones really brings anything that a team I think if you have a whole bit so wide open Corey Dillon could run for what I think he can run through it. But they got a good running game and a -- that Leonard Davis acquisitions which I thought was bad at the time all the money they gave. That's proven to be a big acquisition because he's really paved the way for the running game mister Steele. Patriots today is very good but enough with the Blair witch project camera movement we don't need to see below all -- consuming all over the place. Anything go with a wide angle -- on those two. In her life without a we'll play -- big by Matt we'll take as many angles as we can hand for Christina Akron. Six the watch more it's finally yesterday is it just -- in person. I'm saying with the whole Paul B everything. It's just -- Junior -- celebrate a bit too much after the -- to try to breathe some life into the last patriots fans or has he been hanging out with merriment. During the offseason too much factors in Diego. Now we don't seem to think for 18 deals legend I'm sure they faced each other look at you imagine a game we're Jerome Bettis and juniors say. That must be a five hour game every time -- one of a made a play to be celebrating let's see RD from key New Hampshire says it's great to have the season back underway I had a quick question comment I think Kevin Faulk is really admirable that a good sell player. Seems to work cart has earned his niche in the TV scheme with the patriots I wonder if there were any other guys out there. What a similar role with their respective teams and were Kevin would rate among them. Third down back isn't it. Yeah."

[1:35:35]" As he talked about just would like -- without -- he just talking -- running -- guys that are nice little players that make plays for teams you know I was derogatory statement that you just -- well. You called someone a nice little player. That's derogatory statement -- They -- that. I -- you know from an a rate him I think Kevin Faulk is a nicer a little player than Wes Welker is relating. It was Reggie Bush should he be that lead back there I mean there also is going to -- now going to be asked him now Duce is done I don't think he should have been I think they should have. Continue to do is Tom and I were talking about it last year when -- they give -- Yeah to get their best way to be dressed like creative it was McAllister pounding away and then. It would pick spots for Reggie Bush and then he could be even more about what is that he wasn't creative last -- felt terrible but it is Reggie Bush is not living up to what we thought he would be in the NFL I would have to say to some yes yes yes -- hasn't lived up to us terrible leader. As enjoyed whichever one well I also olds O'Neil what we were just -- no I don't think they know how to use them. Other breast. It's weird it's like they have album they feel like they have to give the ball they're not really sure how but I also have a ton of other weapons right so."

[1:36:52]" I don't know yes he's not -- up because you don't put enough to the hype is Vince young and he's not been she's not been Vince young for the saints so Mel."

[1:37:00]" And did you see Parcells -- and that they had Mario Williams number one on their board to. Oh really. I don't think that that guy was a good enough player I could live with the by Q just say you know he argued it based on height weight speed combined. More than. Player like I can I can live with -- an argument that says. Reggie Bush isn't the -- I can live with that argument I just can't live with the argument that in part -- in clearly based on his wording. Didn't law of bush in terms of what is -- out of our satellite player Natalie Morales. I'm around the offense but he can't be the focus or something he might be right about that. Let's be out of Parcells the positive guy in the world right like the like in the -- use a lot of those kinds of players to was it and yeah he did he used make it for years like that both in New York -- here but there's -- there's been using them and like -- franchise around the -- take -- satellite -- I thought that's why -- I don't think necessarily that and he he had Reggie Bush he could put him to -- But he's not going to go out of his way to get. Apart that's why Parcells is great ante though he started you'd always going to coach -- everything. That he used to do win -- that thing last -- reason I did a study in 80% of the time where you have a deep as the penalty drive results of points like stuff like that's great Pete -- Like a five yard face mask at the 30 yard line late but I think -- just made that I I think that's always tell me I was wrong or not only 80% of the time is. Always that's very very. I don't like if you turn the ball over once in the game you. I don't chances of finding decreased by like 70% according if don't I'm saying I grew Tom bill meted out."

[1:38:52]" CPJ says another good win for the pats in my ever going to go into the fourth quarter -- exciting game this year. Not that I'm complaining I have sort of a stupid question so who wells what I ask what you guys what is the little celebration Randy moss does after we scored a touchdown now. Because of pushes his arms to his side what does that signify it's over. You sure about separately -- green with I don't know. It's opening things he's opening things up or opening something -- I've known which may yet and yet and -- so -- no idea I was just -- I was scores like that. I did that motion it would mean like just. Seal later they'll now that we know what you would do four I never got in the and so I just I have some dances like in my head that I would not admit -- I doubt one of only if it gets us three for him at your wedding. I asked me get a moss he's just awesome he scored two touchdowns was directly responsible for Gaffney being opened when two guys went to moss this feels too good to be true. Here's the question again what is the line for the game this week six seems too low to me. Do you face is that the week for a tough game. Now seven now"

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[1:40:01]" What do you make the road you know the -- have a good offense. Economic W I'm 50 just all comes down and two. You know whether or not they turned the ball because I think if the patriots protect the ball. I -- you know. They're going to score in the 40s I really do in general to win. Now a couple of turnovers keeps the game more competitive and puts even though because I think. The Bengals offense is capable of scoring on the page -- just not enough to keep up right if you want -- line the jets are three over the bills. A world. Well IPS did you see did you guys see the rumor on pro football talk dot com about the pats catching the jets with a videotape last season. Very interesting also what about the usual -- possibly getting beat up by his teammates for being a bonehead."

[1:40:52]" They ordered the code red and De'Angelo but I think it. So is matches is troublesome is DeAngelo Hall do we like they really beat him up when when we talk rumors that's no rumor is that kind of your coach little control when he. Maybe I was wrong but it's Bobby Petrino no chance that's what he's gotten down man I didn't like him -- in the -- I mean I had some issues that were beyond his control but things that -- his control seems like he's doing a terrible job as that it Indy yesterday Paul. I think Jimmy Johnson which is the case case were a pro coach was coaching in college and they found them. Because every other one of these college coaches and I used to be against this I used as they -- give you break the coach he -- apparently that's the case does these guys just let's see Indians Sioux City, Iowa I know the receivers are much better this year but don't you think Brady's throwing bad no new. He sees me more accurate this year Fred please ease up on Eric's work load. So we as more time to participate in the show YQ everybody else get their work done and he is not available good question. I know most guys merely asking them read how accurate it Donovan McNabb would -- was there. How accurate to 31 touchdown they very accurate accurate how accurate as he looked went deals out there that well last week."

[1:42:11]" I don't know we're suddenly based economy game I'm -- pregame clearly you NBA great quarterback. But when -- get your receiver like this make you even more accurate. You know what I'm saying it's just what they run better routes in the open we've -- Randy -- open compared to Reche Caldwell but a big difference I mean moss has how many catchers 222 catches. How many of them were in the category of the two touchdowns on Sunday when he was tightly covered. Four yeah 45 a couple of the jets game how many different how many times has Reche Caldwell is open is Randy -- one -- anytime this other -- little comeback and -- and he's got a guy right on on so don't tell -- the throws aren't as accurate who weren't as accurate last year if they weren't the would have thrown 36. Because those guys weren't open all year Charles's near Baltimore he says last week -- Charles. Relievers -- is that last week Charles that I think Maurice Evans give us our best chances. For positive yardage on first down when you're up by 24 in the fourth quarter anyone who looks like a great runner I still think Maroney is dancing in looking too much. Maybe he's. Just not as tough as savvy as the others. -- Charles. I I don't know. I think Tom said that right and it's getting on Boris -- last media I think he's really tough I think what he's in the open field old they shall -- anybody do you think Lawrence -- you show because hoping they'll come after me. He ran a lot of of this so so he's saying he senses -- He read a lot harder on Sunday against the bills those two will probably go back and forth a lot from week to week as the game -- changes so Charles's. I guess quoting himself I don't know -- you respond to an email."

[1:44:06]" I don't really understand what -- the question was but I what I want thing I don't agree with this I don't think that they're best option Everett is happy devils on the."

[1:44:15]" Evans could be on the field as it touch the ball -- but -- could have been questions were up by 40. That the way it was he's the best chance of getting the odds on first down -- Evans with with Maurice and I don't. I don't want it if they're going to run the ball I would rather do out of one backs that it's going to keep those weapons on the world. I don't think that the guy is all clean race. Pretty much right played one pre season game at a few theories he's getting better every week. It were -- Oh we mean -- like it would -- I don't know what it is it's it's it's the media define the complaint hello while that's part of it but I think it's kind of the blue collar New England thing where. Morse is finally -- kind of back he just. -- shoulders down. You know grinds forward balls hit the -- top in terms of the yardage it's imminent the average -- Emmett Smith runs and they haven't seen one and -- and I think that -- sometimes you know he gets out for no -- people of events he was dancing you know. Now some of us might be on the show every time he stopped he's you know. Dancing or should cut their whatever right. Maurice kind of puts his shoulders down a policy for four yards every time I think that's kind of like -- when when you know that's panel they -- think back. Would you like better mostly to two pool Craig James. I think to write in you know at least one guy had a service I would've gone James white -- had scale of one guy didn't literally on the surface -- would -- there"

[1:45:43]" let's see -- is from campus -- did you notice that his Tony Collins did you notice the mistake in the long TD pass and radio -- they said it was from 45 yards. But they forgot to add the yards of the drop back I. Eric I ticket point if you can tell people -- you didn't turn pro averaging 60 yards for my by the way beautiful part by mormons. I will listen later my apologies if that has already been treated -- What's your take -- will four. Well sports hit a -- we didn't talk about that I want to ask you guys if it does in the line. I think you'll he thinks he well he's he would that he would you say because I didn't -- as -- then I'd accolades has pop Warner and I never -- Well that's not."

[1:46:26]" And it's -- man -- endeavors on the dirty play well if he goes for is an easy. Okay now I think it was a dirty play but I don't think he's a dirty player did that on purpose ass out."

[1:46:40]" That's like meet defending Belichick say yeah well we don't -- the rules but it was that you don't binge eating doughnuts it was same argument why he was pushed legal."

[1:46:53]" Way they both sides it's push from seven yards away. He came in sideways. I mean when you guys you have I -- that he went out with his forearm to make sure you make that's the one part that bothers me enough to do you pushed people who look through flipper that. And it appeared to be aimed at certain we don't know exactly what I wanted to you know wade -- in Jacksonville --"

[1:47:15]" How are you good to win. Second which I think about the breeze -- think you to catch that well."

[1:47:28]" Well he we were actually surprised initially -- with a mini camp when he got all the this kind of Thomas was out -- he's got a ton of passes and we were I think a little surprised by his hands just because he's billed as this third tackle guy in this this blocker but. You know you gotta remember this guy I was of the top 15 -- I -- pick nine and number so I mean that you don't draft just flat out tackles with the ninth pick in the draft that are tight end -- I had what I saw in the in training camp was he might have that he ends. But he can't get open bracket we saw that -- that play was -- like a right get what he still way to catch -- time Brady threw it on this year almost got picked up by Kerry Rhodes because he was coming -- a blanket."

[1:48:06]" Well -- was your -- right missed one and I don't know oh could play. But he he -- completely different we dropped it but."

[1:48:17]" They're going to have to throw tomb on occasion just so let's not obvious that every time he's in the game he's staying in the block I think that just keep the defense somewhat off guard they're going to do that every couple weeks."

[1:48:29]" It was a great pass by -- you shocked if it. It all right on our way to hold down the fort Jacksonville crept in South Carolina wants to point out that on NFL that. The question is which three you know team will be the last to -- first game patriots 78 over almost 79000 votes overwhelmingly patriot and I haven't voted yet 44% patriots cowboys 17 Packers 13 colts' 13 Steelers well. Tells the champions of the world -- and visas. I would put the colts second I think that night when I'd be doing the public too much credit. If I said that they actually looked schedules and they you know -- like for example the patriots by the colts. For a guy by then they also point Dallas political so. Yeah that makes no sense to anybody repeated Dallas to be and if you log in and -- a -- Dallas like it and if you -- two weeks. John -- and he says that fits he is hilarious any anybody who were first of the Super Bowl MVP -- satan meaning will always be aces with me it's funny. But he did have started to understand why there is an element of people think he's fine now I'm getting all 50 phenomenon -- Why -- man was ever done to be compared to CB. I it's all about having fun with this when it's not right -- right let's see if you may have some more running name had to do with like acting or something that might be funny hand signals. Any of that but satan would mean when I Purdue all of the classic and could you make that up -- What you walk into the kitchen I'd say like that's great writing that the -- beat me -- it from Bogota is. I'll Armando Rios sometimes with -- favorites -- underdogs they find little differences between Internet sites of half a point herself. What's the best site to check that type of information also if we're entertainment this is only. The early over under for the Monday night it's 53. With a number of 75 in favor of the patriots -- you're likely to go up or down."

[1:50:50]" On the line is seven right now. It started six. When you get to seven it doesn't -- usually so I would say that that number -- a statement about there the over under shoot up. B 565657. It Alex says that so so long for OTB and a classy guy when things start to look bleak. He becomes a classy -- but with these days in San Diego. On a sideline to our little argument would rivers but I am assuming he's taught and -- that mean. Instantly as the us. I agree that these guys patriots quarterback to pretty class I I've seen him you know occasions on the side I saw all the press conference east 80 -- these kind at a loss for words what Drew you don't disappoint anybody knows -- coaches how is it Alex wants -- know what made rich coat tight so badly why is is it appears so often we're talking about back coaches instead of Dave Campbell Paul Hackett."

[1:51:52]" Well or older oh oh -- those guys could definitely be in the in the conversation Paul Hackett has the -- I've ever seen -- potato blow you've got to remember something this is the man they had the same talent Pete Carroll took over and there was a report that they were actually sunbathing and practiced -- week I -- Calhoun was a 16 point -- they beat -- 319. Paul -- is a miserable terrible coach -- coat tight as a miserable terrible coach Dave -- I'm going to stop now for a technical or more things that in -- because you don't want -- and that Dave Campbell the -- all that yes -- he he looks funny -- Mideast side and ray -- you can throw him in -- He's kind of a punchline prototype is like the punch line and -- show that picture with like the starter jacket and -- bad back -- he had on any of the glasses in the -- He always looked like it was good that I hats used to have him in the -- hasn't like the paint stains on yeah. Hey you know what the punch line is I think he lost his last ten games in Italy and and wondered if they went in one or no he was like walk in 25 is as 40s that he didn't."

[1:52:57]" Have some initial success in yeah he he took the eagles the playoffs by one and 15 with the jets the next year Parcells when and when nines so. He is the only one on the lists -- level little bit of success models other guys have -- all -- let's see Mike from Columbus, Ohio is it just being here as Wes -- look and sound a lot like Toby Maguire from Spiderman. -- I knew every time I see him I'm thinking this guy sounds just like. That's who -- and decent looks and so I think you are amazing that's that's who it is I think that's very that's very good. That's good because that this is bothering me since the first interview and -- that maybe you haven't seen them yeah. You know it's it -- a moment as. Democracies units whether restrict what it was -- sure about the boys but. It looks that much like does it he has that them all that he doesn't look like holidays that's what he played basketball in the locker. While I was doing about it to -- I. But Tobey -- kinda has that way of talking without openness -- yes that's a well goodness two Christina Accra is a great addition to -- section seems like it real professional. Posting page today pages today prior is so great jobs right no I -- not cannot take credit for that. And you really seem like a real professionals or does under hot but I -- motivations for all the easy no she's excellent she's she's got I'm sure she does but. There emailing because she's now what's that maybe I think she's he's got one form what's the hand gesture than -- you know 80. I thought I thought the silver had a jerseys all. I thought the -- jerseys were being retired after last season they play to win them again this year. There was some talk about a possible red Jersey it's kinda alternate color in the Nigeria is this a possibility for next season. I believe that next year a year past two years as a question why. And so concerned about all managers they are you people mean we get a lot of -- that way and where why it just say you know we've got as many emails on that as we have about the way. I don't know it is an outcry over yeah that's that's now -- mistaken because I -- not from -- you can -- bill Rogers yes because I always liked the red jerseys when I was growing up and I -- people -- hated in the -- to make fun of them and I -- it will jerseys yes. I never heard anybody not really old Jersey now that they don't have I want him back I saint. Those particular measures that we where's the throw back on his good as the ones and sent me those that are. John united -- yes. On I thought the patriots uniforms back in the 70s were terrible they had like white light periods in the red Jersey and the pat patriot everyone knows that I don't right now but at the time they said he look look like a guy taken a dump and exactly you know exactly what it looks like. That's a -- a lot of it now but now we don't have that we love it again you know as they were dumped on. Well -- could be budget I never heard anybody make the patriots you know once back in those days and then late late 70s they went with the red pants kind of cool like they -- read on read yes. Okay all right I slightly raised her right here's this red on the -- actress red pants -- I would have been all for -- by the red jerseys for one thing and -- definition because. Marketing sales right partisans on a cool and I wrote here there were talking about the -- the fans don't -- market that's right -- and -- love them while they want it isn't gonna want what they want to have a different Jersey while it don't matter -- you -- hit it -- not -- uniforms. Why would you want that many. Because you can -- The business. Oh well I'll host -- Say do you mean the experience and so. Honestly -- would why I thought I Batman the cannery in the first to have everything I agree with you as the papers want to be able lose I I assume here that you'd like to be able to cater to every facet of your fan -- In if they're asking for it you give Wimbledon they won't read about just came out with a whole new line of ladies we're. You know under. No not -- don't -- it's. Although the pages -- so fond. Yes we know patriots telephone yes red noses of course firsthand not a selloff on sell a fall on us. And we and we model of friends now undated Q I have always carry pages today and he brutal."

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