PFW in Progress - 9/27/2007

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[1:31]" Gillette stadium patriots football weekly here for the boys Paul Perot in the heart. The FW progress Thursday afternoon. Patriots preparing to take on the Cincinnati singles Monday night in Cincinnati. But as our listeners from yesterday showed no. No one cares about the game apparently -- the prime time affairs used to be a big deal and you -- three you know. Even if there is a tantalizing shoot out possibility on the horizon. Don't seem to be taking this game seriously -- spent the entire show yesterday arguing with who was better Reggie Bush or Adrian Peterson. And I respect it showed I might be a bit of an overstatement but isn't what I do I didn't notice that I notice and do something subdued open for you. My joints stadium -- usually via the radio patriots that come Evelyn Morton at the tables -- went -- he ominous thing. The only. Life Christine and always boring polished and foremost -- used to it I think -- to. Thank thanks that's was the now programmable occur -- I was ill prepared left it in my other seat is. Although for -- not in the building right now Fred -- is not here -- important meetings to get too because he is an important kind of a big deal. We do have to send out a very hardy thanks to a guy Fred -- would like because he sent this email from his I phone. Which he probably paid 200 -- too much for. His name is staff sergeant is -- Jabbar Robinson. In the united states air force and he sent us a tremendous spread. We got pizza we go wings we got subs we got soda. We did everything we -- just incredible and we're all know look like Paul within a couple weeks and lord only knows what Paul's going to look like if we look like Paul. -- a choking on something. I'm a -- of his throat possibly. But yes staff sergeant and I'm probably butchering this Zaki Jabbar Robin Robinson announced that staff sergeant Robinson we love you. -- tough to say. But you by the E -- of the day and for your service to your country well yes thank you the bar I actually feel a little bit bad it's. People in the armed forces to make a lot of money in his cousin who. That I phone from his own good point I don't feel -- got a -- all I can't afford and I phoned but the al point faction in the the nation leaders. I can't believe all these people that have given us think we're lucky we -- to send -- food. Once it's been huge we are blessed this particular order by the -- is among. Monday the best ever. Steak and cheese with pickles doesn't get much better now so that you followed with a boneless buffalo wings don't want to thank -- staff sergeant Robinson. -- the best the best email we've ever had until he replaced with the experts who sends us through it and appreciate the well which is in the suggestions from all of our listeners who think enough degrees watch. -- for it but it means that and he VFW progress on my phone. I guess is yes."

[4:41]" You can do -- I'm saying if record was here he would say yes. Pretty cool I was they keep it open after it is and I thought to write myself and -- into everything yet yeah. -- all everything that are slow network will allow you to do. And -- But we have to thank you and I finally wizards. I never before in my life. What did you ever heard American soldier no."

[5:11]" This Toby Keith. I shouldn't bring this -- question bring this up. You know after thinking staff sergeant Robinson but that new song -- idea to McGraw very -- You're reading this guy who doesn't make it back. You're reading this Marty homes that's something that's wrong. By Gary. You know not so quick on the button there you don't have that -- ready for you. Web video patriots dot com web radio patriots dot com 5 wait 5437482 such a cork -- if you want to send us an email. If you want to talk about the patriots I don't think -- again I think more people -- in the game I would think I'm pretty impressive in the singles game I think I think is a chance for a shootout here I was acting as a very good chance it's entertaining apparently they keep it yet. I mean obviously it's been very positive the game as patriots have been winning easily. But entrance of the pure entertainment watching the game and actually -- you know coming in doubt at least for a little while. We had a yet and entertainment. Begins today at 15 or 115 potentially when Chad Johnson does -- conference call the local media I'm sure fans will be able to get clips of that in. One of Gary's productions either that John -- show were honorable -- So and bill. Was asked if he wanted to throw the first jab of trash talking and he he declined. Basically -- Chad in his antics and but talk about their pro bowl together and I don't I don't think this one's with Serbs on side he clearly likes Chad John I teach -- genuinely as well or. I think he goes on -- this day thinks that Johnson has respect for the game. And he he's just a fun guy I'd that we put it today that was interesting I don't think it's aged him at all. With that -- and I think there's a lot of guys that you know they do summit this kind of stuff and they do. They would they are -- think -- Chad Johnson and it doesn't. Really seem to bother I heard T. J. Houshmandzadeh was on locally on WEEI this morning I asked him early. It personally very it was very well spoken but he was -- good job but okay air quotes from somebody in the room who's not afraid Kurdish but he handled they asked him if he thought. If he ever was like shut up Jack -- you know you put us in a position we have and he said. Not really. I mean he's and maybe once or twice but it's just championship basically it seems like everybody takes it that way tomorrow. That -- that the league commissioner is only instant thing was he hopes Chad doesn't look back. When he's like 55 NCE what I waste all that money on fine tonight dances but. Only he will I think that's his personality he loves as bill said he enjoys football. Just natural comes out that's what he has I have no problem with -- the only time it becomes an issue is if it's something like we saw last week with Steve Smith. DeAngelo Hall where becomes. Both sides aren't like if Ellis Hobbs and Chad Johnson get into it but both of the guys are kinda know what they're doing enjoying it it's just the competitive thing that's -- When it becomes physical and starts penalties and -- and it becomes an issue but and that can happen."

[8:14]" When it becomes there's penalties that directly impact the game that well they always have the potential to anyway you know an I don't know I was going to unfold. But that's one day in and second thing is like you said he and he if they're getting so upset. And you know -- a guy ends of getting off his game you know and it affects his play. Then that's that's when it becomes a problem you know it doesn't really seem like there's a lot of examples of Chad Johnson getting off -- game and doing certainly hasn't affected his production -- the position to him let's face it wide receivers can be selfish I think they always think -- open they always want the ball you know we always call on the deep as an hour and a and a lottery guys in a lot of ways what with. You know that's the very nature of the position has to rely on someone else to get the ball to them. And you know any time you have to do that they can be potential for you know awesome from under arrest on the part of the talkative wide receiver but. I find the guy entertaining and you know. You know I I don't see him doing a lot of things that distract his team in disrupt his team from winning. If they had 11 Chad Johnson's I think India right now once the ball now. Obviously they're pretty good on on offense anyway like now they have a lot of guys that elect him as talented as he has I don't think it would be native here."

[9:29]" And one of the more interesting aspects of -- press conference they which was a little slow and anyone listen to -- could have ended three or four times they would dead -- But in a little bit more talk about the fact that Cincinnati does something. Pretty unique in that they rotate their offensive lineman. Some of it had its roots in injury some of it just sort of continues throughout and he said they you know they talked about it with the defensive lineman here. You know you have to be ready to go eight deep employee you know potentially if -- that they use. On and that's that's pretty different I'm usually the top is always try to get you know as much continuity as you can and get get the same guys playing together but more importantly we Tony Paul's talk we have I was very special caller on the line. Staff sergeant Robinson thanks for joining us thanks for lunch --"

[10:17]" If so. Good what's going on thank you very much staff sergeant Robinson is is outstanding"

[10:22]" in this no problem at all my. My appreciation you guys all your entertainment."

[10:29]" But we appreciate you listening. We're aware you these still in the air force where you stationed right."

[10:35]" How many airports I'm in I'm actually. Patrick -- you Massachusetts okay so I get to to belittle the million while -- principles so close husband. Yeah attack yet this year don't try to look you got one out to be training kicked the bucket via com and its commitment oh he was up there. And I know. I slept in the problem. So what's going on. But also just so listen CR I'm catching the other backlash of it on the on the Internet over it wait and see them don't talk about -- Fred meadows new ones this about the -- you the end I know we're a -- confident leg. Well brand has."

[11:16]" An important meeting Tom is amongst the missing easy shady guy and he often disappears we don't know where he goes to and the lately is overwhelmed with -- yes. But I always threatens some will be down for the second hour today as we do I know from Erie two -- around at the National Football League we usually do that on Thursdays in the second round so. I friends I'll be down -- us that back and forth. For the record -- how do you say first name."

[11:44]" Scott key chip -- Jabbar appropriately called -- Lucky but that's what I'm going with them. That's that young -- a lot easier somebody's it's butcher at first I absolutely. So what do you think about the patriots game that's coming Monday night no incentive there. You know what"

[12:05]" obviously it was it was trying to find ticket could I was thinking about driving over to two Cincinnati because city game. -- just hold off topic what ought to be too happy here but it's another day off of that today it's -- also. I'm just going to watch on TV like everybody else I think that the patriots have a good chance. Two way hopefully that they don't what we could be kind of messed up."

[12:32]" The -- I. Do you think I'm sure you've heard Tom and I arguing in Paul -- what do you think about early talk of 60 you know."

[12:42]" You know that first I mean it's hard for any team that goes -- at all. Put the more -- I'll look at it they can if they can truly keep it one game at a time of hope is that one game at a time then I mean it's a possibility."

[12:53]" I agree I agree that's that's sort of what I'm banking on is that they do have that ability with -- bell a check to. Focus week to week -- not get caught up in the hype and I think that'll help them in their chances to do it 16 times in a row."

[13:07]" I'm mama hopefully -- well Knoblauch -- goes 16 normal particularly nice even -- it's right now what the -- today I don't want justice fixated though. But a -- they make it to the playoffs and when mr. Wheldon and I'm happy."

[13:21]" No question no it doesn't take much to please you high standards around here -- last couple years have been. You know good solid years but when does and with the Super -- it's it's tough that it used to winning."

[13:35]" Today it is true but I've been spoiled. I'm sorry I didn't think that it is is it is a good thing I mean I -- big. I don't know -- there's no possible they've been because they're so used to win and so. I mean I think it's going to be a great year are open everybody does well hopefully we don't have any injuries that no we always have a couple area here where. I mean if they can if they can stay healthy they could play like big air traffic is it will go far."

[14:03]" I agree are you calling us on your right phone right now."

[14:07]" I don't know I was going so. Blurt no end and no I cannot get the PFW on the eiffel -- where I can downloaded and listen to it later which always do."

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[14:23]" Yet you can fit to be honest with you I got out -- was it about five days before the cut -- date"

[14:32]" so but I still like the unlucky. Yeah yeah I don't get 200 dollars that they get a hundred dollar rebate so everybody that would report indicated. Underdog weird -- we have to do Apple hooked up so that every BP that. That -- actually the government paper you want. Is there a a muted okay so they paid almost behind -- is right."

[14:57]" Okay all right lucky well thank you for lunch thing you -- service and I give us a call any time."

[15:05]" Right definitely they give hope we got in we don't want to come out there would be I would -- eagles game yeah. You know I don't know yeah I'll be in Dallas for the cowboys game for the great so."

[15:14]" Oh no question oh yeah a lot will will make sure you get your tickets that there will will look into that lucky because."

[15:20]" I thank you much appreciated to -- you up the good work and it doesn't make it so well don't that's it going get. Then again yeah is that is that it can see that -- you know he might get a big hit a much less stable work all. Outside of the -- you I don't think that you know you out here is just so well we'll wait."

[15:45]" Is that he's 30 had a slice of pizza and away so he's okay worry about Gary all right thanks always an -- really clear they looked. Lucky Robinson one of our great colors are great servicemen who -- he called and skimming the US apparently. Let me before we go on how the -- that he worked that out and you before you go I wanted to lob. We got an email yesterday from Justin in Alaska SI have -- it's and now I do want to say I call is wrong is the sudden change in just in his right I wanted to make sure I talked to -- about this. After the press conference today. And I asked the question because I remember that there was something that he talked about. At the post game press conference of that AFC championship game about it being a no lose situation and what I did -- you know as I often do. I had you know recall part of it and didn't recall all of it and I was wrong and -- right they did have a risk of losing possession of the football on the lateral right way they didn't have a risk was when the ball was kicked -- in the talking about. The blocked field goal that. Troy brown picked up -- and eventually lateral to Antwan Harris -- patriots fans remember. With the big touchdown in the AFC championship game back in 2001 in Pittsburgh. Once Troy brown. Scoop the ball up in an actually gained possession as Justin pointed out. It now becomes patriots ball in an inning loss of the ball at that point on. Would be a potential for a -- another change of possession and just his right he talked about that when I was mistaken about is. The part when it it goes the job behind the line of scrimmage and brown went to pick it up he keep Belichick said they teach them. To try to stupid there and not fall on it because it's going to be the patriots at all. Anyway as long as they don't establish possession so it's worth the chance to take with all the linemen on the field this is how bill talked about it with me just now after the press conference when asked them. What all the Lyman on the field it's a great chance to take to try to stupid and run because is not going to be very many guys out there. That can actually catch a wide receiver -- or in the case of Antoine Harris a defensive back. And that's why that's you know -- they -- that they want to try to scoop but there they can't lose possession and not a lot of athletes on the field. At a going to run you down so I was mistaken by saying the lateral wasn't a chance I guess it was it's the same. I -- that they took on Sunday with Wes -- and and Randy -- is wanted to get that out -- explain I like the end of -- he he kind of knows the -- could -- high school -- in Alaska yes -- absolutely -- I didn't do reality you don't want to -- looks like -- I just I just messed that -- do a reality -- on a high school football team from Alaska -- about them traveling around under"

[18:28]" was there something I don't know. Yeah I was -- that that just started up a team as they they start in the first year program and they took belongs here. Yeah -- it was on ESPN and owners dressed in -- had to ask is pretty big now. But at least right now. Was -- them. Just in Alaska it's as and a PS love the new site although when I click on the flash player to hear PFW freezes every time I'm using OS ten OSX is not the Mac version of like explore. And I like look triple -- that's why is that I don't know. Once again lucky thanks for lunch and the call. Like most -- Charlotte you have to just remain low aerial and I think I was talking on someone else who one of the current members of the patriot. And -- or maybe -- First testing -- you -- points -- that usually -- I don't mean I don't -- to -- this is one of the -- we've got as -- pointed -- we got twentysomething emails between the end of yesterday's show -- today show as people -- it was into the -- time -- email so to -- you know a lot of -- might have been -- All is or after it on show -- after judge you know. And if we want to talk about -- I can scroll to find an email I saw that really took up the charts at Boca. -- got to see I'm not the only getting beat hey guys in the subject patriots on TV up here in New York City listening to you guys bombing Craig's phone calls a few hours after the show is aired. And wondered if you guys have any information on how to watch patriots games outside of New England about the only way to get the patriots every week was to get NFL Sunday ticket on directv. Which sucks disco sucks he's how's he getting the games and South Carolina and D be guarding them do you guys have any idea if there is anyway besides directv to get the games. And usually out at the bars on Sunday drinking beers and eating wings like are kind of guy checking out all the games but between the giants fans in the jets fans. Talking who for the first two quarters when complaining and weeping and there wet pain in what maps for the last two quarters. It be nice to just revel in some of these pats victories from the privacy of my own tiny overpriced department with the I'm so direct TVs the only way while when I was going to assume though is. Can you not DV ER directv they had -- that's our knowledge I'm pretty sure they have at the via direct TV -- Com they do I think there issue was there was not HD. Well I -- I'm -- I think he was wondering how Craig was able to watch the games in DVR them yourself you are finding them off. But you can do it on -- Steve yeah after we go by your own tivo. By Hutus when he did actually in the use of spaghetti VI don't know that's but he may have misspoke Simon says yes you guys talked about the old school throwback -- of the day I'm pretty sure I'm the only person with a number seven Hugh -- Jersey in the country while I thank -- that's probably accurate at least not with the last name no one. Right answer one of those people that gets"

[21:29]" website -- reading website emails -- was skipping all by the way out to skip those I liked. I like you've won by the way in I've gone on emails. There's a number of emails Iowa freedom and then at is that mentally I gotta read this one this is from Jonas in Jamaica Plain. All right while no credible complaints on the website about two -- why people don't mind scrolling up and down was growing left to right is like. A bed bug in peanut butter can I just put the brakes on for a second. I was behind -- three the next -- not picking on Paul okay -- I would just speaking on behalf of Fred can or should I know -- I'd hate the new website I know Chris -- and records are really to blame. Also in the administrative -- is spread payroll by the word he's like the C span of football Brian -- ratchets up the excitement level temples and now. Stone -- tournament email. You good writing accurate"

[22:23]" and he has a big head little -- and asked. Just that it is what it is familiar with some posts and they just gave us new new hats. Let's be honest little snug and it's a winter cap it's not a that it -- any means. -- with -- some sort of structural material PJ checking in Korean PGA calling out -- Well hey it's a great show is always Tom I was just getting on you have yesterday here cowboys rent two days ago. I was trying to rile you up a bit because of my hatred towards the cowboys in reality I think the -- to beat them because dallas' defense has shown me nothing. And I also think that BB has a knack for taking away one player which would be TO. Except in the superbowl. Now let's see Patrick Creighton and Sam -- and beat us and maybe they can you never know but I was just getting on you a bit because you were showing your cowboys colors when you through that happen in. Hey guys I need to know Toms. Thomas wedding before the game and when the cowboys score you have to look over at him as if he pumps his fist and Tom would you be rooting for the boys yes. That's how come he answers the question would -- as for the website I think it's fine it is one writer. It is one writer that I think needs a little work red Kirsch aha. -- last year's game review against the angles that it long snapper with a couple of field goals and last week yet that's down 76 until Watson caught TD pass. Which put the -- up and seven. -- that's spread -- Matt. I know you could get a four point touchdown you'll learn something new every day also. I only got to see the highlights last week and you guys assess the play the -- Thomas Samuel and Brandon Meriweather thanks. -- that your writing about idealist Thomas this -- patriots football weekly and have spoken to him. Often in consistently over the last couple days when youkilis -- Thomas like in cellular are pretty much everything that goes thomas' told me in the rest of the members of the media and that was. No not today very polite by the way is by no means was he rude to us he politely declined and by every means scary. I he's an intimidating so no he's a big big man he's got and he has a scowl on his face a little bit of the Willie McGinest school of of creates fear because he's a big scary yeah I think that's I think that's accurate and similar in that they're both. Outside linebacker frequently I was scared of like big bad guys because I think there's a chance I could out run -- like ten yards to get away but. When I know their bigger than me stronger than me faster than me everything meaner than me it's like -- yes"

[24:58]" you know it was about -- Thomas I think it and many ways has been the key to the defense and his ability to play inside has allowed other players to really flourished I think around him and that's what I'm going to be trying to write in my story going to be in next -- said. So I've said that it's a waste to have me inside I just think mainly mainly in the -- I think what you're seeing is having. A player of that caliber playing that spot. He he's so good that he can still make an impact from in there and still allow others -- like I said flourish around him so without taking a shot at -- He is significantly better than my -- don't you think inside. He's probably better than an -- we have seen a player -- a that's just. My question he's a significantly better depend you know well you know how I feel like a table -- you make out of every week -- talked on this week's that's really not an accurate statement so most weeks tomorrow but. Significantly thank you Mike -- able. It's a big upgrade and -- has been outspoken again this year when he was asked. In a little more active I think was the phrasing. And he said and we know he active adequately outside linebacker the last two years sort of implying and you know it is not a lot of calls we have to rush the passer into a lot of things -- remember that -- so. You know he he kind of felt. Like you Liz -- ever doing he has never come out and said brittle being. I have it inside yeah I don't like playing inside I feel more comfortable outside I want to be outside so I can make more plays I should -- our offense start going our. I've never heard him say anything like that. I think however that it's clear that he feels like and I you feel by name -- I just think he thinks that. You know outside is kinda what he's been you know. More comfortable doing and I think he feels like he can make more of an impact on the game -- real quick we'll close out that email rim area very -- it hasn't really played a hole right in so it's kinda hard to say incomplete. Santo I think looks exactly the -- of last year I gotta be honest and I haven't seen anything noticeable difference at all. I think when he's been around the ball he usually gets his hands on it knocks in a way that -- you have the touchdown to and that was you know. I I -- I would I would argue anyone to go to our paper and look at the picture and say what happens after that at the end this play where as the ball and you say on the ground and and it's. Look I don't think you can defended any better than he did and -- one of those times that you say what we have double cliche the other guys get paid to write. Laveranues Coles an excellent receiver he made a play right. All right I'm now going to go back to the phones we get Dave in the poconos joining us Dave what's going on."

[27:37]" A guy calling it hate it being very well enough that those with the most in the poconos now it it would again. It is is -- in show. -- I was gonna say don't worry -- not you know and I read an article I know we're going I can't believe I'm talking from this. My wife -- you believe that I'll -- a little bit the only one of tools -- the only ones are all okay and if you got in this -- you know. Is room it was done ESP. -- Dion he has yet by is still knowledge creation -- well. -- create just like Barry --"

[28:35]" I'm not exactly sure which story we talking about there was an article yeah whatever whatever ES the end with with what -- Gregg easterbrook how."

[28:48]" Well like and it read that dumb. -- read that BB was like seven years old he was. He was in the film what does that."

[29:00]" Well that's true. That is definitely true."

[29:03]" Do you think the NFL it. Created bill back up song totally disgusted if it's not proper discussion then it's BS."

[29:12]" Well we'll owns an -- yeah we can definitely discussed not exactly sure. What is Zach questioning is almost it is there are three you mean -- adult life without question and as you alluded to Dave. He was basically bread. I see a football coach losing his father was it was a long time assistant coach at the naval academy and a lot of other places as well. And -- the stories go as far back -- 6789 years old. Was breaking down film. Not in a scouting capacity was dad."

[29:46]" But the thing -- I don't want to go back pages with the videotapes or ever know but keeping. Bill just took it just book too far because he was creation -- I mean. But hell an American painting of that"

[30:04]" and we'll let it all right there you go -- active. No I don't think he's the creation of the NFL I think -- creation of his environment -- made him and I think. That's the Greg no excuse me the great guard Robert Horry has that it's it's a little excerpt from halberstam book education association of -- talking about when he was six years old in the corner of the -- film room and all this and I think it's it's very telling in a lot of ways you know there's a reference to bill not minding that his dad only came to one of his high school football games per year -- he was always on the road scouting. I think you could see. The roots of not just his skills as ace out there as a film but the roots of his priorities his dad football urged. Obviously as a kid wouldn't that be what you be taking from that he rightful ball is important and it is his job it's his desire it's it's past it's his life I think you could say bill picked up on that and that's how bill -- and I think that's a great way of looking at Indy because. You know that whole -- we think of a lot of these things is kind of -- cliches now football's important to him right that phrase is important to built right. Because it was his life. And I think the way you just put it sums it up perfectly you know I don't necessarily think -- you put it not necessarily a product of the NFL. That a product of his environment and I think in a lot of ways that's -- he tells us that probably could never seen himself doing anything but what he's doing right now right when he was say. 15 -- 70 and it worked out perfectly he talks about you know I did all those things on the early coaches he worked with the the tasks he was given by -- doctor wrote the car rides with that Mark wrote in the staff from the hotel where he -- just it there drive the car and -- in these lifetime football coaches. Picking up everything they say and everything they allowed him to do special projects -- among that he even admit maybe I wasn't qualified for pressure but I learned so much doing them in coaching specialties. It it's match it's not an access and it is what areas and what we talked about yesterday with players and where they end up. -- part of why he's so successful is because of how it played out. It could have played out differently but he was able to get a lot of football knowledge early on July rolls from a lot of different coaches and that has all come together. And and made him -- check that's had success you'd be hard pressed. To come up with a guy's name that was an impact coach whether -- head coach assistant coach scout GM some somewhere along in the NFL in the 1970s. Mid to late 70s then -- didn't have direct contact with the work directly under or in most importantly as well most of those guys came from. George Allen or public view these other through the roots so he got samplings of what team from those sports what you're going to see 15 years and now. When it's an entire league full of bill Walsh disciples. Bill Belichick disciples and maybe Mike Shanahan disciples you know Gary Kubiak now and guys like that. That's what you're going to see in 1520 years. Bill got to live that he was. Paul Brown disciples in George Allen disciples and you know all the guys George Alice all the guys that came before then before them. He got a chance to work force for these people who then and it just one he gets the other hand all of a sudden you have these great mines we. We've seen -- I don't know you know Eric Mangini is Lakers on non -- now it's that's an ugly situation. But we've seen -- treat some of these guys the exact way he was treated we've seen Josh -- Daniels. Was the offensive coordinator but he wasn't my title bill was the defensive coordinator New York. Before it was by title he was still linebackers coach but he coordinated Bill Parcells defects. And he's learned all these things along the way you see him play out the exact same way I don't know that yet -- dead positive. Madden known as the coordinator buy everything title bowler offensive coordinator by he may not have had one. I didn't know just like this team and when did -- The making all the plays and was not coordinator. I'm not wasn't -- the offensive coordinator with the NC. Known known he wasn't -- witnessed -- with everything you see him do here in pulling -- is so similar to what he. Is that what coaching is it's -- from the best and mix it with their own driving in -- smart enough to an older they have the best I'm not saying everything he has his stolen. He stole things mixed them with his own intelligence right that makes him great and that's that's -- you have to be smart enough to know. That when you pass when you have a scheme I give its -- tennis way it's when you smart enough to know that you have a scheme that is going to be successful. You know look I could go to work for some high school team right now and I can watch their offense tonight it's -- pretty enough. But I would know that that. You know. Maltese the principals of that wouldn't work here but it would work maybe down in Florida -- the athletes are much higher level than they are in Massachusetts high school it's recognizing the fact. That you have a system. In place that's worth. Studying and learning as much you -- about to expand upon that's the politics is done he took a lot of the principles that Paul Brown you know probably innovated in the NFL and he's expanded upon them in many different ways and obviously. Ten or 15 years from now guys like Eric Mangini and in Romeo you know probably not Romeo Crennel is he's older but Eric Mangini will be young enough that. He's going to look at some of these schemes that Bill Belichick cats here and he's going to expand upon them in his own way judgment -- that's how scared -- Brian Cabell who was here for awhile and he also likes the coaches that. You know he started off. Was -- an eight point five dollars a week -- like that in Baltimore he likes to have those young guys coming in. And work more -- he doesn't want to give them a title that's why you don't see the patriots have all these assisting coaches that all of the teams do. As he doesn't want to give these young guys titles and and sense of entitlement. He wants in the work board and learn and who those guys Vernon and those guys Eric Mangini Josh -- Daniels Brian Cabell now map Patricia as the linebackers coach here they work their way out. When they prove that they can he just moves them on their other guys that have done it and it moved on to other teams Horry and one is on Romeo Crennel staff in the era of the guys who have petered out and you know couldn't take it or. Well and they sort of just it. Ball out of the fast track that some of these other guys have been on. I think it's a fascinating thing to talk about but I also don't -- he's not -- product I mean that makes it sound like he thinks that creation that. They said here's a guy we want to be successful so we're gonna put everything in place for him to be six. I just don't think the league is orchestrated that level regardless of what you believe of the league and I also. No offense to bill on watcher that they were picking somebody I don't he has the greatest relationship with the league contract so I don't know that he would be the guy they -- I think he's a product of the environment he grew up then the guy who we called dad. And all of that stuff coming together with his own natural gifts and Ellis is an incredible mind so like anything else it's its players is the same thing. All guerrilla was giving me the break sign so PFW progress will be back after this and hopefully Gary is looking."

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[42:38]" Thank you once again this staff sergeant lucky. They're sending us pizza wings a Turkey substance they can Jesus we were. -- he's lucky today. I mean this is above and beyond above and beyond that I would expect that though from servicemen they go above and beyond sure they do more before 5 AM and we do all week. That the of course. National Guard -- on army. And plus these days I indicated I deal up before 5 AM Jackson army sure of it. I'm going to get to the emails here it's 12:45 at 1 O'Clock. Record will be joining us -- the -- is half joining us right now is he's. Engulfing this -- that luckiest and and he will be on the -- in in a few minutes but by the way Tom had a complaint liking it -- you have the sub cut in half apparently local -- geno and cut Tom everybody -- was cut but. On this Alley willow is any. -- always but 1 O'Clock I free sub wasn't cut. 1 O'Clock we'll go or later in the -- don't know what I'll walk out -- focus more emails that we got a lot of email around the NFL make our Phoenix. I'm very happy that with the number quote unquote I am 500 for the season which is much better start than the only one below 500 with the number that you think anyway going to run out now and you just picking winners kudos anybody you know -- winners kudos to the patriots -- so obviously you can't Richard in Falls Church, Virginia says that it website design is all right. We'll take a little while to get used to it. I don't like the fact that it no longer opens up a separate real player for listening to you guys but that's minor and they're also working on that so in the future look for. The ability to have that happen where pops open a window and -- can -- the site doing other things while listening to us I don't know when that'll be. I was told that may be in the works I just want to say that every week that every week I use a defensive picture of the patriots as my computer desktop he would use an offensive player as a result in -- patriots lost the following week. Like a I -- yes. I am responsible for all the losses over the past two -- but -- the past two -- have -- my -- last week -- looking mighty -- that interception -- this -- it's incredible -- junior. Just figured the quality of still images deserve some props are being excellent snapshots what they're doing more. Wide screen shots -- there isn't that strange stretching anymore that's it. Well Richard likes with photographers are getting done basically. When Gibran this how is whisper. Thomas Dion checking in and says subject shut up Dave this guy Dave do you give me the freaking shut up award get off -- That's Thomas from Virginia -- you have to read that sorry -- I read all emails we're female driven. We are one big email family they're feeding their brothers where one of them. And you're the only -- just is or eating chips talking five feet from the microphone that's not true -- a -- at a that sultan Orlando hey guys I was asked the question didn't know the answer -- I -- I ask you guys players make extra money for being in playoff games to the coaches make extra money as well. I guess will be no -- Lionel. My guess would be you know all so I guess you know and -- there's always a possibility that and organization -- coaching staff bonus at playoff bonuses or something like that might have but by it is collective bargaining agreement with the players union players association. It's built in an automatic for every round I don't think the coaches that's awesome and I know when they went Super Bowls most organizations give out a lot of bonuses to be assisting coaches scouts. All kinds of player personnel some organizations and we were told that does it was a member of the patriots organization who I actually left here and went to Pittsburgh. And there was tock you know not sure it's accurate that there was a sizable bonus to all employees. Root for the superbowl yet so. I think it's it's up to the discussion but if an organization Tom from Newport Beach checking in and quick note about yesterday's show first of all I love the show and became the PFW subscriber just to support the podcast. We appreciate that thank without him pitch or we wouldn't be -- way out the paper to -- part to lead the outlook. Which also means that spread it relieves were. Right by the way I get issues on Friday after the game in California which works for me. The court for you because you don't really care I guess that's it. I don't -- at this minute right now I'm hearing the discussion from Wednesday. First Craig sucks up begging for him to come back I try to passport every time I hear the guys boys damn too late the second you that the good work and stop taking Craig's calls them the way he just got blown up again thank god for Gary but the that's true it's all Gary when Craig blown up all entry -- going to be jobs still in Salt Lake City hey guys great show my buddy and I are planning a huge Monday Night Football game party here in Salt Lake City we are excited to actually watch a game we get tons of raiders and Broncos out here in really I would rather watch paint dry and watch the raiders. 16 you know sounds great but I really think 14 into -- more realistic December's Monday night at Baltimore and then Pittsburgh. At home is a tough stretch and after a short week the Steelers should be would be really pumped knock off the 12 no patriots if they don't. Lose before that you guys are awesome keep up the good work no question that's what has me concerned that stretch I think that Baltimore beat up and then Steelers. The eagles are right before if you -- want to -- and the until 2 O'Clock. Hey guys this is from and -- Blakely -- new new -- Gonzalez or Tom -- Todd says now not a moment. Oh I gotta throw quick hypothetical out an email or who may have any interest in sending us alcohol I would prefer that the alcohol be of the vodka or tequila variety. Paul Murillo is not interested in any hard alcohol because as we all know he only drinks to get drunk using. Miller -- I don't really drink so that's kind of -- to throw last year Miami -- to I don't really drink and get back. I was wanting the opinions of those who think the patriots have a shot going 60 you know this year since 2004 the colts have threatened to win 16 straight every year compared. To these -- to. To these colts teams in the obvious editions that wide receiver is there any other reasons why you think the patriots do any better chance of doing it in the previous colts. Performances what possible things that the colts lack that the patriots at a deep deep apologies if you covered this before personally I see is losing to the colts and Steelers. At minimum doing below average performance by our defense in the red zone -- by in the build those Chica yeah."

[49:38]" I don't first of all Pittsburgh needs to go along way before -- put them in the the class of the colts would be the patriots right now certainly off to a good strides and Roethlisberger looks terrific I think he's a very good quarterback and I'm not I'm not overly surprised by him bouncing back but. I -- you know. Beaten Cleveland beaten San Francisco at home I don't think those wins necessarily of -- the top of the list that they played well. The -- be a tough game I I think Indianapolis you know Tom talked about this yesterday what might have been Tuesday they can they can score with the patriots we know that we know we're all those weapons they're going to put a lot of pressure on the patriots secondary. That's -- that's going to be a tough game in the dome that will be a tough game I think that's the biggest hurdle to overcome. No doubt but the only thing I'll say is that when the colts' loss to the chargers I don't think it was the it was more their offense wasn't -- release from last -- that's how you gonna have to win you can have to put pressure on Manning the way to San Diego did. I -- you have to -- the patriots the same way that you can't get in a shootout with the colts because if you do you can lose. That's so that's how I look at it. The -- to media. The eight to write a -- as the one in 2003 with -- patriots won 3834 I don't giving if they'd be in the chargers maybe they would had a chance to go undefeated. Oh absolutely they could've gone undefeated. I think -- you know -- I'm the one that thinks that it's impossible to go undefeated I think he can do it."

[51:04]" All right -- liked it they lost that they do a better team is -- and even and went down the last play of the game Mike in Tampa first of all. In acknowledgment of your PS five -- 5437482 is a number of anyone like to join us. Taking all new callers today we like to ask irregulars -- step aside we are looking for new callers 5 -- 5437482. Was that a way to get Creighton got the call. Among them the email is not happy especially eight guys on the colts fan in Tampa since dungy became coach there I was wondering. What was. Your opinion on the pats versus colts I know the game is a ways off but I don't see any team beating either one of them the thing that stands out to me. About the -- is how well the offensive line is playing. Thing that stands out to me about the colts is they -- stopping the run with seven guys and how well corners are tackling both teams are ranked in the top five in offense in deep -- that's a bigger margins of victory but I think the colts have played tougher teams. Great chip."

[52:01]" Gumbel as well we just talked about -- you talk a lot of movement to yachts I think the patriots are far superior to the colts. Because I think they can now match them offensively to some degree in defensively I think the colts had taken a step back. Stated -- far superior --"

[52:18]" Civilians as soon as now plaintively hitters -- Clark yet and I didn't want to Panama stereo welcome the patriots offense is an appointment of the art I understand what you're comparing Randy moss to a whole. -- weapons. I actually think the patriots have a -- I think Benjamin Watson is going to be more productive as the weeks go on and -- help from the Reagan. Dallas -- drop every ball thrown his -- a week or two ago and so you watch highlights the one team and I thought all -- I watched the whole game of the Dallas -- pretty -- don't tell these guys but I -- the whole game I saw him drop at least -- is -- the cover drive -- I don't say anything yet you're a -- guys I think they have faults too I think they match up very equally now -- quarterback -- now -- that's what our -- Defined as good as any of Italy that's on offense and I think defense it's not even in the same ballpark not even in the same league. I think if you innocent Benjamin Watson matches up finally dow's climb and I think now what role he's in to catch three passes a game and have a little bit of an impact that way but I think I credit to Dallas Clark's career that he's been -- better player when healthy. You know has been illegal -- is far more -- out. Yes he's far better player. I think he's open I mean clearly has trouble staying healthy I'll agree that he's seems to get nicked up every with serious injuries to keep him -- long term I think that's a concern for Indy but. If you -- match -- kind of -- patriots have an -- I wouldn't -- the -- an -- on -- give -- the -- because they've -- based -- three -- the patriots -- being -- with Reggie -- an -- I don't think -- the -- Indianapolis -- defense -- offense -- patriots -- get -- and -- they -- behind -- the patriots can win every -- I think -- better -- have a good chance -- you know. I I put the brakes on a -- Toms -- when you stats and then the other -- are superior everywhere but patriots dot com you match up once team's offense with the other team's defense and I don't think that -- and I think my defense for the patriots matches -- far better against the offense the colts and the defense of the -- against often I would -- pattern that's why -- they're going to -- I just -- that I guess -- semantics is the five it's our superiors -- a little problem as a question -- but suppose now I don't think it's -- happens that'll start off on the McConnell always been crap I'm asking you this because this is the first time -- problem to do you -- want to beat teams will be a little by little -- They go to Dallas and Dallas beats them and they don't get lucky they lineup. And they just will open -- and they beat him by ten points are you saying that the cowboys now have a chance to go undefeated. If they if they put it together on both sides of the ball -- I will because they play in the NFC and if they're playing that well I think of the cowboys' defense starts making plays they would have a -- cowboys defense -- consistently as well as the offense has played through three games you -- to take it like 14 to football that are any good so I -- any team that I guess that's -- consistently has a chance -- undefeated that's my -- theory on -- you make -- to -- I don't know -- you got a chance and I -- and I -- I don't think it's so hard. For teams to be up every week 16 -- ideas -- so tough for -- like like we had last week likely insane and that's why I think -- eagles or Redskins a team with more talent but I just don't think well I think there's a lot of chances where the teams say the cowboys of the team at -- now and they they don't show -- in week nine. I don't know they play -- there's a chance that team's not good enough to take advantage just like and I I think -- stinks right now I think there's probably good chance that maybe to a three times in the course of the year the patriots aren't going to show up quite ready to play. We already saw -- chances are to be a bad team and I think if if Philadelphia -- Washington comes into Gillette stadium and the patriots but the Sampras or they did Sunday. Patriots -- up when he in the game by going away I don't think either one of those teams has that talent to stack up against the patriots even on a bad. Now Dallas you go to Dallas and put in that kind of a quarter and a half. I think Dallas could be you know you've yet I think you the colts could feature I think Baltimore PP if you put in sub par effort not to UNC game against the Redskins -- deepens plays well against world bogged down teams like that like I could see that I couldn't see the Redskins offense moving the ball well enough to I don't think -- I won't be shocked if that ever happens because that's the -- works but I think this team is so much better coach and so good. That's my point I saw them do a lot of impressive things along incessantly with no talent -- let me ask you would if they lose this week. Than an article on 16 -- about it on an album might -- all I'm asking is your opinion of the team change at all. If they -- not really -- I would be shocked at -- as -- and one that are out of my my my whole thing is I think I saw this week it when the rest of their game I -- this team when I won one games in a row and go 1500 weeks without losing two in a row when it wasn't as talented and now I don't know I think those weeks when they show up and don't have a emotionally. Talent sometimes takes over you just -- is a better what do almost answer. I might change -- because -- independent final and I -- my house wondering -- already model results in my little mind -- when you take -- you must also take away the number two receiver I was -- just -- other guys out there and and have -- not you're not going to have the -- an -- it is -- but -- to be contended with. That things that -- to me its -- it would all be Aubrey if Brady I'll break it down the discussions over and I changed but but other than that I think in my waist and they can withstand individual losses here and there. If Thomas got -- on defensive ratings better offense. I would be concerned in my thinking would be if if you think they're good enough to go undefeated in moss is the only guy who gets injured than they should still be pretty. I don't could I still think they'd have a chance to go undefeated but I what -- less confident about it right affect me at all wouldn't make because I actually. I don't see how Randy moss is going to keep -- He at this stage of his career is now he definitely I think he's going to slow down a department right now he's going to you know he's probably is gonna miss some time with injuries -- is the three you know he's been the focal point of the three wins offense that's the issue Dave in queens."

[58:15]" Joining us on the phone Dave another Dave -- the he has showed today Dave what's going on."

[58:19]" But -- it is. Are good man or thank all of our part of -- proved that we. -- undefeated and I think. -- we Amare. I'll probably about you know -- agree with you know he. You know things you the first oh this yeah I agree that -- be -- political and it'll go deep. Nobody record okay drop the last year Padilla for you if you want it back people. I think it out it you'd be the better you are now future and regard it's."

[59:07]" I you know we always weird I checked the numbers I didn't realize he was two years older than most if you -- engaged in the league ten years longer than Ross. Yes -- despite two years -- at -- earlier than that he's been he's been in 12 years of moss has been ten years. And then -- this."

[59:30]" that you probably this -- a little -- partly it's looking at and a I don't know ideally it's on. That backward radio show you when you call him becoming the game goes by right. At least you're picking on our ticket I got injured you got -- yet if you if you got it right and I would I got. Right -- I think that the patriots."

[1:00:02]" Oh no this is with the number. Yet you can go you can put the jets on there and you can feel very strongly about that it dealers in Canada into another spokesman. What they've you guys got to pick our -- more. I don't know what they -- when will you know. All of the games on the -- open court over there. Four point bit take that I like it accidents AFC NFC it's a little I don't know replaying that they call -- them. They -- since it will have lunch next week on you guilt it will take two road teams that'll work now -- Oh three. But the jets do and then just -- and then just emailed Gary you'll see all the information sleep in bias -- new order lunch. How they'll wind yeah."

[1:01:03]" Well now now by the way condone gambling over the airwaves."

[1:01:07]" This of a plus conversation -- slaughtered at art two teams win in his don't. Okay I -- about the to do -- dates that's right and thought of that I'm just I'm not going to read it but. Subject line to stars positive comments about the web site is the -- happy there are positives and negative comments coming in all one sided Steve from Winchester heard guys talking about going 60 you know a bit early like talking about no hitters in the second inning. I see guys strike out the first six batters and he looks untouchable I might say -- I could throw a no hitter today. That's not the case the most it's quick math on the chances if the pats and a 60% chance of winning each individual remaining game. The chances of winning the next 13. Our 13 point 13% if the -- have a 75% chance of -- were blown up and he had quit blow this up."

[1:02:02]" Paltry paycheck is pretty secure is evidence that -- get them all apart and the chances of this and that I think is about a math event there wouldn't be multiplying it out each week so if you have a 60. You basically six -- time 610 times extent they think. It will play out on the 13 I mean we know we've caught up to -- move on but we know what I'm finally added you don't aren't we don't -- the averages it's not likely it's only happened once right on the undefeated thing yet gone but it's gonna happen again someday and some sort of -- today is December 20 and excitement tells -- went when they lose Tom's going to like really really good -- I asked I. Right now it's something that's so ridiculous but he's going to rip us he -- anyway he's got a little vial that -- it would have to be like this week. It's -- welcome to date a -- putting all -- that -- but -- come with another college -- this one from. Well around the world in the Philippines Dave what's going on."

[1:03:02]" Well it had a couple of comments for you guys. One if and I hope it doesn't happen anything happened Randy moss that the banks style or it could step up and maybe catch a few more passes than he has."

[1:03:13]" That's a few more passes yes B Randy moss now. But don't you and it's on it's not about Belichick told you today I actually asked bill about them press conference today I'm working on a story for next week's paper and he. Said that Stallworth has had two very good weeks of practice -- he actually talked about it with -- the fact they've been practicing so well. So I actually expect at some point. -- in the -- breakout game that we've been predicting from Donte' Stallworth where he gets those you know his numbers go below the before catches Tom and I were looking at his career. Totals yesterday game by game he has a lot of those games -- he had three or four catches but it it's for a 150 yards because there's a seven if I had -- yarder that big."

[1:03:51]" exactly the sort of thing you want to have if something happens to Randy yeah and he's been here on the field and again --"

[1:03:57]" No question so yes I think he can step up but not to be re not gonna do like muster had you know 8409 deal whatever nine for a 109 I don't think you're going to see the big game for -- the -- but it's with Tommy and he said. Maybe five catches for catches 410 yards maybe --"

[1:04:14]" With the rest of the team would be enough to get you went."

[1:04:16]" I'm not out I I don't. Listen I think we -- has been as good as you can possibly be I don't think that he by any stretch. Is the key to the off now because the receivers are better you're not back to where it's Gabriel and call right we still have better receivers in well wonder it's all war status."

[1:04:32]" Yeah any doubt that that brings it to the other point dead that the team is far from -- one dimensional passing over. I think only team right very you read that -- article on -- dot -- this week it might not think want to read this quote you. Of the AFL I haven't beaten teams only Pittsburgh in Indianapolis have stayed perfect with a balanced offense. Tom Brady Tony Romeo and Romo rather and read Fargo little -- New England -- agreement injury you know. Now recently and I am pretty Big Ten -- fourth in the league in rushing and didn't we have to back averaging over four yards a carry last game and you ran more plays -- passed actually."

[1:05:11]" Yeah and that's that's ridiculous it's it's not only ridiculous comment that they haven't been valued there isn't now -- and is not a good running game the only team I think out of that you could say is Green Bay they don't have anyone green Green -- three an -- one reason only and that's Padilla he's played three great games and they've been able to win. I would say Orioles had a pretty it's."

[1:05:30]" Deserves it but I -- read that Michael don't think are professional -- but there are going to build up."

[1:05:34]" You know literature is a pretty I was a brick residence in -- defense he's pretty good I just I just think you missed the -- now when they have not. But the patriots have put up some -- passing numbers but you know he's can you look at the numbers he's been in the 20s for attempts"

[1:05:48]" I think 31 I think is the most writing is pretty darned good production."

[1:05:52]" Yet -- been pretty bounce so far that's why we've all talked about the offensive line has been. So good the offensive line has been tremendous."

[1:06:00]" Yeah I guess we'll let them enjoy the show a lot for those of us from the other side of the world it's it's really good to have this stuff on the Internet let two guys get on that."

[1:06:07]" One quick question for you go are you calling BS -- I'm going on a moment I'll get a much of that cost I don't know I don't look at developing she let them all being fit those are -- going to keep his don't his lungs again as -- I don't ask a dumb question all right Dave enjoy the bill."

[1:06:25]" and thanks for Colin. I think once it went -- it Dave actually -- in united -- and had a chance to get to it. I'm sapped Christian Simon -- check in -- guys. I for one think it's going to be a great game on Monday night even though we -- them last year Carson Palmer is healthier than he was last year that should make a big difference not a corner though though gambill kind of -- that -- down on it the keys will be whether or not we can get pressure on Palmer like we did last year in if -- can run like -- did last year. You know we can pass. You know we can pass Cleveland it if those things happen it'll be a blow out of the show keep up great -- I don't know the realty of pressure with those nine offensive linemen and the -- Augustus as a you know point of clarification Cleveland was able to throw the ball. Be tons. Jamal Lewis and over 200 yards rushing into ever want to know once once you have to establish the fact that you need to -- to stop Jamal Lewis. You know even a guy like Derek Anderson was able to be put -- I'm certainly not to defend the dangles before and I think it stinks but I -- game I think was -- just those games you know those games Egypt during the year that those crazy up and down games in the -- those houses and I'm not mistaken. Cleveland and Cincinnati played one of those games Italy years ago 5840 -- final so. Maybe it's one of those matchup and I don't think 30 fences that bad weather going to give 50 points every time they step out on the field well it's it's week if the patriots don't turn it over a lot. I think in the name score should -- Holland camp checking in subject Clark versus Watson the reality. Okay a ball rolls -- it's -- I have -- I know the reality it basically three guys and say Clark is much better player is very ignorant in not supported by the numbers that's -- last year Watson had a far better year than Clark has ever had. The year before Watson had a better year than all but one of -- seasons if Watson stays healthy he's a better player on a different team. Clark is an average to below average player. And he includes the numbers for both let me ask you questions details -- Reggie Wayne in marketers and -- entering Jameson -- with -- I wondered because -- wondered why he didn't get. 80 catches a year or so maybe that's the reason at all I also would say that if Dallas Clark was on the patriots last year. When they had no receivers who employee email -- you may have caught under balls and I won the second part that I would say well he's been on a great team so that's why he's good so I guess then. Randy moss is not that that is -- you know he's on the patriots he was on Minnesota when they were great but when he was -- when he stomped right so I mean listen. Circumstance we talked with us a little bit circumstances for players can change Jameer you know it -- polarized career can change usually trust Clark is a good player yes Benjamin Watson is a good player. I mean I just think -- Clark is a better player than wise you know I say that -- watch in them in the the biggest time of the year the AFC championship game and that's the guy who changed the game -- that's the guy they went to I don't ever remember seeing Ben Watson change a game all by himself. In the patriots go specifically to him I just think. They have confidence in Clark I don't know I don't really know Indies. I think he has great -- from wherever I've seen I thought he had great hands until -- all you saw one -- it was solid product we're going to go by drive it was four and one game but if the game what I had to get it going to go by drops were going to compare him to watch. I've seen Tom Brady throw for perceptions that he had a bad game I understand that."

[1:09:58]" I just and I think and his athleticism I think is over rated too. People who think he's like -- athletically a -- matchup he's not an athletic guy like Watson I don't think -- because you see these I am -- studies and it. I used her at the fifth -- I do is go Wellemeyer and maybe it's that (%expletive) hit it. I'm an experienced anything or -- that -- I think Dallas Clark is a pretty athletic. I don't think he's been Watson athletic but I don't think too many guys that -- Ben Watson I actually don't think Ben Watson is athletic on the football field as he is athletic. In any I'm talking about the ability short zeman to that's spicy Dallas apparently and I I think -- why do battle I can guarantee the patriots think he's the player because -- I think as and they play. I'm sure they do and they -- he's part of a very good offense strippers checking in with some interest in quotes from the Steelers. On the NFL destroying the tapes so quickly. See I don't see any quotes many teams I have no idea but I'd hoped -- use those tapes to teach other organizations about what they did Steelers -- out Hines Ward was saying yesterday. I don't know why you would throw them in the fire a lot of players are wondering what happened that's kind of like the area 51 who knows what's happening out there. And my -- imagination races Steelers linebacker Larry Foote said. You could definitely win some big games -- style of offense if you had the defensive calls that's available and trees there. If you know what it's he -- his -- a follow up right there what is what do you mean by best qualities -- not a lot of talent but somehow they just -- yards and -- find a way to get a first down I division title that is why is Kevin -- always opened the middle of the field on third and seven. I think that's what I -- real answer that -- last year if you know what team is doing that's not just an advantage that's total domination you know imagine if Dick LeBeau who plays and we're. We're going to be -- that -- as -- prop your own DC but I don't. There will be a tragic that would be a tragedy for our support -- especially to the superbowl it would be devastating blow. On the and then our -- chimes in these Steelers are whiners Phil Simms was on serious radio in -- it happened he said. We knew the offensive signals of the charges -- time we'd be yelling out toward defense the play the chargers would run. And we held them to 44 point he said with a laugh. It's a post reports. I've heard a lot of you know what. We've talked about -- enough but I've ever a lot of those kinds of comments we had this and we had that well what happened when you're when you're 14 and two. Talent wise and you put another 14 -- team and you have your signals to pistols and according poorly educated and you stop. Right now does that would be days with a 44 was like 98 when you with three entertain and they would they would 12 and four they scored 44 in anyway couple they aren't subject I don't like pirates and I wasn't listening I was reading we're spread Brian checking in says big fan of the team in the show and heading out to Dallas -- a few weeks for the game from the Aspen now with a Florida. And I am really hoping both teams -- five you know and still playing well question have you guys been out there before -- so where's a good place to hang out Saturday night -- Chicken ranch. And Helio is going to -- you ride a bull I'm gonna veto it my cowboy Adam do you guys go out on tobacco is we do drinks on me except for Tom -- Not -- weaker now I don't know much on the battle playing -- on Saturday at the -- country -- two spots -- if anyone's interest it. We guys price of work to do or get in late Saturday afternoon. And -- I am not so much what the worst thing but -- we will get into the but there's a chance to see is on the town somewhere and in -- drinking and we've never been in Dallas only retro at a pet people -- on -- I tell you that story if you -- him -- if I never know I've been to Dallas once but not not Texas stadium enough -- patriots. I -- though -- wedding in Texas and indeed in Texas including the way knowing I was the infamous -- that. I have to clean up after and you know I was part of the wedding by authorities the right. Oh freedom itself. -- I'm looking for now best off season ever a question and I play enough time is coming down he said it would best offseason ever question -- do you think the patriots may have had the best offseason any team has ever head. -- the at the best Nazis never had to go back when that draft with a rapidly John -- and every other piece of the puzzle for the next five years almost all the players they acquired or not only contributing to becoming stars. What team has ever added the equivalent of five starters with two potential pro bowl level players to a team. That was already championship level -- wasn't already a championship level because of that it was -- level he'll be coming off the champions 49ers but they were cheating."

[1:14:54]" Well it is what -- is as a bill would say yeah. But -- Thomas he says -- lost honest Welker Kyle Brady or Donte' Stallworth there's one of them would be starting against villa on seeing anymore us Morrison's missed. Not treated that ways to sit down look up you have -- and Sanders. Tim Harris Chris Coleman on the safety from Arizona and -- don't McDonald. Those are those the ones that if they go off -- my head who San Francisco they have like an all star team and it really sick they clearly were cheating so that was a little bit different. But you know I'm out of I'm not a big fan of is this the best that ever like yeah it's crazy to be overly preoccupied with that in mind wrong with that no patriots fans including Mike from Columbus loose and that he -- are a little bit preoccupied with who is the greatest ever everything we've ever done. And we'll get back to more of those types of emails after this break from PFW progress PFW boys will teach the basics."

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[1:19:12]" And where back. What's what song is a scary lucky remove Britney Spears spears I've never heard this before. Is -- the old brain is as old Brittany. I don't know scrutiny stuff but when there is -- isn't doing a little love that song -- I play the chorus. It definitely. Yes once again the email -- of the today is our friend lucky -- In the United States they're forced to somehow charged with our lunch to the United States government. Sounds like he could court -- in my opinion about. As did his little plan to. Drive to Cincinnati and watch the game despite he would have any days off now that's -- back but it got a report that called a while parents without leaving end up court -- Public you know I used to think look like he'll make you shop. I literally thought they like for some reason at that they -- into the courtyard shot. I'm all for him -- do you didn't -- and -- All right let's get a few more email since. Which is going to start without in like 20 minutes of the start without credited against average is going to be the real positive generally want to have a -- to email mister I read every strippers -- superstar and I -- I start walks in -- wins wins Kellen Winslow whose Cleveland plain the ravens. Watson I go -- When those who have fighter Watson's three straight touchdowns. It's a tough one because I don't think -- play the ravens over many big plays right into dumping off the -- I don't know that they like Watson take him it's ankle -- in the can root for the patriots in your fantasy points -- those big points for receptions leagues and had a moment that -- and a little bit from me just NC Gary printed out any Nellie really want -- read. It's from our you know good drunk friend in Ireland -- hey guys great show yesterday before yesterday I thought pearl was an old fat -- boring slob with a grating personality for the next. Well -- That was until he unloaded on some 40 Taylor yesterday pearl went on a rampant even impressed Tom the Sally I think. I much prefer this that I asked and I know crap ball rather than in the kinder gentler Paul we were stuck with for a few weeks few weeks I think like eight years is that PS. Everyone knows -- has no real football knowledge whatsoever in the past he was -- normally good for the -- joker too but not anymore what's the problem a hole no new material. Held a leg or is only on for ten minutes a weekend is even even he contributes more than and -- It shows how drunk this guy is now he's like in a coma induced by that vodka that comes from potatoes. Nor I find find what if anyone wanted to send me any alcohol -- would be at the top of the list they could set you know I find funny. Is that you make fun of me all the time for -- on the stupid rants that I ought to an end. You know a writes in says he's just the Barbara lot of doesn't equate -- like yeah right yeah I don't."

[1:22:19]" That's true you've been renting a lot lately you rented in the locker room today as you said everyone was as -- literally I -- I looked at it was a that's not a rant for -- Today up one not this year appellate yeah. Really going at it. Yeah yeah had a nice little Italian Italian like today about Derek Lowe and J. D. Drew is how we talk just say you know there were media members stopping and looking when you guys or at the height of as you guys are very animated anyway -- talk from TU ten Stevenson okay guys I'm one fan that is definitely instant talking -- here are my five keys to the game now we'll see if these match up with. Paul -- those five keys on what's actually -- 25 keys with the Christine Christine after five points with -- a point five points with parallel bang bang. Which is still after all Mike Kris I'm just saying I'm sure my recent madness. On site had five point oh sorry I'm sure -- take advantage on the block -- that's true one being physical it's getting like we know that. Yankees look at what I really liked my I don't want him to get mad if he took that the wrong way with. As I know have you listen to the wrong way. Right I know he'll be listening or -- want to be listening for him. We know that the -- goals what the -- passing attack is -- they remind me of a great deal the colts from 2005 I think we'll play them exactly how we did the colts. That year in the playoffs our linebackers destroy the colts receivers. Coming off the line that game we just beat them up I think the coaching staff may look in that direction again to -- on the angles. Then it better -- What's that that's all I can -- I got to use that style. You know expose yourself to big plays to and you don't give up big plays when this happens to be gale force winds it's noble to. Ball control on offense plain and simple here we need to keep the time possession in our favor as they have done was 35 they've we've had. The first three weeks he we've got 30 there I arrive at minimum. I believe so that's very impressed if we're on the field Carson -- TJ are not I don't see them stopping our running attack which should. Be used early and often -- turnovers we should have no trouble doing this 1000% in agreement with now. Right over their Tommy want to chime in any talent -- you know it's arousal mesmerizing as in little sheet with numbers against get pressure with the front seven it's hard to say how much we blitzed the angles I hope we don't much other than the three down linemen. Of course and neither Coleman every able on one side and -- defensive like -- get pressure on ad in right there. If the defensive -- get pressure we can keep seven rate back the Bengals have no chance combined with our physical play on defense well. I'm not so sure I agree with that. They -- could have seven -- that -- the but I also pretty good receivers now but I also think if you can get pressure with three of four guys. Just three I mean let's be honest Chad Johnson spins guys around he seemed catching the ball is nobody with a -- if -- catcher and zone now until told us and it was one play were he -- It -- it was it was the ravens I think in the first week where he was just standing alone -- also -- that went from one -- they -- like me that's what he does now because I felt -- drop one pass anything that I don't know and it was -- when our parents play Cleveland a couple of years ago can score from -- to -- score from -- on the -- volume -- Davis -- that 99 yard touchdown however they -- the entire year. Group -- get to the pigs who says that. Oh that's from -- Hideki let me read a morning as -- getting into the five he's we've only done three. -- doesn't kick ball roll up patriots day when he's in his third key Christina actors have anything to do with that -- Four he otherwise out out -- would have. Let's face it this is a good this is a road game on Monday night if we score early on them it will suck the life out of the place. They know what our team has been doing to teams have some hopeful we lost if we can go up ten nothing of 14 up an early on. Yeah that's pretty accurate and Monday night game these guys get out of work five they're drinking for three hours and I get when your -- mean if somebody Wallace you can. Yeah you know depressed affected Toms then about Minnesota last year a background was going crazy and a -- time patriots went on the field school I came over. This is the guy from Dartmouth nova Scotia. And last the kick and -- teams this is probably a little under looked if our special teams play well the in force of angles into marching down the field that betters our dog's obviously. We can't allow returns out to be 40 or 50 yard line keeping them inside the 30 to start drives -- problem they have Skyler green east herbal. -- solid points though. Well done some point in nova Scotia Dartmouth those those -- though Indians when they are nova Scotia Indian Vermont checking in Monday night I hope the Pat's defense can make the Bengals turn into the bundles. I know that's not an easy task but they'll always has a great game plan for the defense if they execute properly the -- should win and it does worry me though I'm not sure the last time that since he was on Monday night they might be fired up in their at home defense has some holes. I think this new patriots offense should tear them up no turnovers sat Palmer hit him a lot stop the run. I I know the answer the last time the singles are -- in two weeks. You know it's been awhile so will be fired up this is who's this peppering him a couple of points one I'm wondering where everyone. Is worrying a wa where everyone is worrying about our running attack right now the patriots have three running backs we're averaging. More than four yards per carry -- four point seven Morris four point six -- by point seven shame on you Heath Evans. I've been a pats fan for along time. I can go back all the way to 2003 -- put in the thought of having a running back who averaged even four yards per carry was an unfulfilled dream for close to a decade. That's not true it was the team that was instantly that -- average salary I'd securing an earned run average four yards again they are averaging four errors prepares a team right now today and I have -- while you can keep -- we are in the midst of a patriots running game have been and we can't seem to enjoy it and it's only going to. Get better this week two Ron Jaworski made a great point on -- show -- Ron Jaworski. -- go jaws. That's but that's. Not only are not only balanced in the air total offense there balanced in their running attack meaning they can hit both inside and outside with equal -- with most teams can do either few teams can do both three Tom has reached. A level of reasonableness -- both the listeners in email is that is starting to (%expletive) me off. I even starting to agree with him occasionally I guess this marriage thing is starting to work for him there might actually be. A Mench under all that bullying and -- after all. It's an -- on its sleeve -- is that is that a Jewish word Mench what does it mean Gary thanks kind of like yeah and -- That means something different opinions not that went knowing this definitely means something different learn a word from -- last week. And into like gossips yet gossiping so it's usually women. Probably do I know it right -- let them -- on this bad. The only thing I didn't quite understand was that his reference maybe and I have a here because Gary printed out. I go all the way back to 2003 when the thought of having a running back who averaged even four yards today was not to -- dreamed of was the decade. An average they had four guys last year averaged four again Dylan -- falcon Evans. They didn't have one well you know they -- have 154 you know they had don't want in all. Both three was a bad year running with Antowain Smith went in -- Three point nine mean that's that's where it's four yards -- one when they won the Super -- so I mean I'm not really sure. What that means. Anyway he was confusing the team couldn't -- for that team and yeah I was actually 86 that was a long till like 25 years. It was it. Around a quarter of a century. Would be accurate and -- and I up it was a big thing for the team that that meant a lot of the team. And talked those guys pat from Minnesota. Hey guys -- all the energy over the last -- spent by people trying to come up with a name for the patriots offense. Which censure coach B would love including acronyms for pat if the on the me. That you could apply this to your show pats that stand for the Paul Indy and Tom show to include Fred we would go. We could call -- Indy Tom in steal a finally when -- has gone you could use the whole team name and heard of the show is. Paul Indy and Tom. Rights all of that tries he writes okay go ahead and blow me up with your side effect had a little extra time my -- I enjoy the -- okay."

[1:31:20]" I don't believe I've seen -- about -- with -- name on -- step up oh nice stand -- checking in Mench is Yiddish for a good person. Whoever was using that hopefully we know I think he -- I think he -- that I ones aren't sky checking in managerial is a Mench underneath all of the luster Mench is a Yiddish word it means literally man in his meant to conduct. I know. A gentlemen were decent person Tom a Mench interest I think that Indonesia -- I pick my mind I just wanted to say -- And it's as an -- I would never just so -- sky knows from Herndon Virginia I would never use the word and note in spoken English is so you know. If that was Tom RI especially fretted that -- said that like that you would've made fun of and you as I've always said that's what I do you what I'm just and you what do I make fun of everybody thought I think -- that. By my wife for making fun of my five month old child. And make fun of everybody just a bad Arizona might have -- are no match that's that's for sure. Okay maybe MO what was the word I can't have run possibilities for 16 you know. I think all the top about 60 you know his premature his a little probability no -- it is in we're -- sorry -- we love yet but we're not reading ability we have enough trouble reading the probability that there's enough paper ahead user -- year ago. I think -- as usual line. I was told. I was told that he don't being hypocritical we don't need to do than it. I want to get to this when Jeff in Vegas hey guys did anyone -- old friend Daniel -- you know preferred an old friend in -- yes that is correct Fred does not valued used that term dropping a critical fourth down pass last week the -- the Broncos the game as he's up to his old tricks to never. I that I have to admit that I I like I logged in program after an got a penalty to write -- happens like the ball it was that are irrelevant panel now idols -- up and -- the ball dropping balls for years I used to now -- to -- patriots tied in at all with Rashard BC in the same thing about Ben Watson if he went to Denver but now that he's here he's for mobile that played at our bowl world I don't know anything it still takes him twice to catch the ball he catches it bounces off many catches it again. With -- regards the website I've been a frequent visitor from my many years in the current installment does seem a bit cluttered and confusing. I can usually find what I want but he can get frustrating trying to navigate around. Looking for something also thank you for getting the -- that he -- up sooner crisper. For awhile there it was taking a really long time Christopher Greg from South Carolina isn't the only one plans his life around listening to you guys keep up the go to work. Well Jeff thank you and feel free to send something from Vegas Irish guys this is from his earlier email not about a Mench question hey guys great show as always thanks for making wants them enjoyable to questions one. I've noticed that the Vegas line as a Pat's favorite. I seven points Monday night. Which actually means ten points without the credit for home field advantage. What is your reaction to that these big spreads make me a little nervous there's always the trap game factor to worry about. You want to react anybody mullets went on the money I don't know money I don't understand why it's Brazil make people nervous. Because it it's spread. -- these occasionally on the -- everybody's tell them they're good and they should blow people I don't know if -- for gambling purposes not lake Tahoe when should the rams being nervous at their 13 when point underdog you know I mean to cowboys you know what I mean like it is the number. The better team as bill would say the better team went on Sunday as -- These numbers don't have anything to do decide the game I'm sorry -- not getting your second point new email just came in and I'm sure to set up but the subject is we agree please read this Indy is the greatest and -- baby hey guys the emails are coming in at a ridiculous are just checked in with a definition for -- no ticket I. Comic it is the greatest from Henrik kinsey. Huge -- team. Hey guys sounds made of -- here from Oslo Norway in Europe in case were idiots how well we are idiots how are you all doing any deserves a big raise I -- in one -- long ago and haven't written -- but now I feel the time is in. Yeah I want to talk football and all but first -- Craig in South Carolina what is the method -- I repeat this whole house is long want to say it is the greatest I have to Regis -- oh and I prize sometimes Ellis in the John wrote and I heard you listen to like seven different radio stations. Side -- was so long it's a phenomenal email Henrik. Parliament an -- I always -- always tell the football over under Tom Brady throws three TDs. At this week over under all season I'm guessing -- statistic in the -- out of our goal -- yes Tom I go under. What I think actually three is a good -- yeah that's but if I have to -- over on girls and is he did not give -- is an option Tom Brady throws for 300 yards over. Over Tom Brady throws one interception -- say -- they -- on one term. And which was an option earlier on the -- on these. Oh okay -- day under under Laurence Maroney runs for one over them. Over on me -- one putts and push but they went yard but he is a hundred don't come. -- over 120 under there -- but I I think he's going to around rush for one over. Henrik sets up the game he's in -- they play differently to have half century it has just -- and a -- who have Laurence Maroney gets a hundred yards rushing. Over over Randy -- two touchdowns monitor Donte' Stallworth gets seven receptions under. He's been practicing well the last nobody -- I was talking with him about -- if you said a hundred yards maybe -- take the over Wes -- eight receptions under. Under Roosevelt Colvin gets to -- over under. Chad Johnson gets five receptions -- over Carson Palmer throws one touchdown over Carson Palmer threw two interceptions over I think it's too so I think he's thrown -- programs I watch that Seattle game last week he does that against the patriots in organic the pats get four turnovers than -- They was -- up for grabs the five time. Nobody if he does it two or three in the throw -- fumbled their somewhere strip -- for the cheap guy over there Roosevelt Colvin -- it could happen but you know two and five that's a big gap the -- get too. Turnovers under under all right you guys that's at the show is simply the best Indy you're the greatest I agree don't let anyone get into your head don't worry I don't. Don Buehrle -- could crawl into it if we want to do. There a couple of families live an event right Tom your great to I would like it more if you started to fight with the more with the email is like he used to no one likes the new Tom. I don't. They want you to fight more Paul you're a good guy. But it great personality thing it's it's execute him a bag in her head island to yesterday where you argued with some of the email is they like it when you -- that they just want -- just what I yell at all I did get an email off the shell -- said not to do that anymore because it wasn't my personality of it. Evidently to people spoken nice to have you back Fred I have got nothing to say about Eric scale of the you know I think I guess not -- That's going to hurt you see a crime so this lead all the problems that I really don't know the problem for me is I have so many fans you know. All odd -- so long guy EL AL and Norway I'll read the rest of this later off the year because it's looks like he goes all the you'd pay about four paragraphs to rip. Craig if lucky checking back in and that means he gets as many emails as he wants to make -- he -- lunch they Gary I know your creative with -- sound -- but stop with -- he stay in the crack head. For making that song tell Tom I said it's not my fault they didn't cut his sandwich -- about that but I can't get your bad ass up and -- and I that's not my problem -- I think they always your problem with pop but you know I'll take 80 Saddam before you get your pennies in a bunch is still my favorite of the crew. Great show again great show once again may -- get a chance to meet all of you in the future -- tell frank that he could we show up keep the food I'd buy it well until we know we're just you know he did show -- your food -- behind the scenes story he was here but made -- say that he wasn't. All the lesser used it in 90 get wings in a sub -- walked out the door with a binder an arm to go to a meeting that. An NFL memos -- Webster's definition of connote. To Mark or suggest in addition to literal meaning. Take that. And I'm not even a journalist neither my -- oh an hour 40 minutes back to get recorded a better should -- so that's currently now since it's -- when he died they which are right. Tom this -- I had to real quick -- let me go over the last -- results"

[1:40:23]" the individual week. Let's see it was Tom and Paul had 11 and five -- it 106. And -- 87 and nine that's just absolutely pathetic you know what happened I made the picks in the press box I was trying to achieve this step -- as I was trying to base it on scores that were already in progress eyes so and by the by the number. Let's see it was -- at 95 and two comment Fred at 86 into. And and united at 68 and -- so. For the season. Through three weeks. Paul and I'm sorry Fred and Tom 34 and 14 Paul 33 and 15 Eric in Indy point nine in 19 with the number. Again Tom and Fred at at the top 2321 and four. Then Indy in the end that Eric 222214 and I am last 19 point 54 big. It was first entity."

[1:41:28]" You you can all you don't have a list of the game -- I've Oakland in Miami Miami is a four point favorite. I'm going to go with Miami here where's the game -- in Miami I want to go to Miami here I just got a hunch that third do for. For a win for a good game. I think Oakland played a couple of real close ones in the they suffered emotional letdown -- the dolphins and Culpepper is going to start right. That's an excellent illegal you want to go I will go and I will take the dolphins at home"

[1:42:03]" Trent green big game hit 300 last week Craig a losing effort -- now he gets it done puts it together my comeback player of the year so I want to roll. So you've taken both you guys take gambles this idea yeah I -- to agree with you guys although. Any fear Culpepper against Miami maybe comes up for the -- I just think he stinks okay -- My my fear would be that the raiders defense get some turnovers and that's how they would I -- I actually you know what I'm I'm coming around in this whole thing I don't think the raiders defeated that keeps him a pretty good defense. I don't think they do I don't think they do I just the way they play would there grow like was -- aggressive style I know. Greens had some trouble him -- and stuff and he fumbles lots of thinking that their defense has been as important -- you know and I I just think that one of the Packers who apparently they've nobody can score a it's one of those things that. You know everybody says well they have a good you know good secondary good pass defense will you know maybe last year that no one decided they needed to do anything against image when incentives on the contract of all we gotta win today yeah. Anyway I'll -- Miami both sides."

[1:43:10]" Houston is three at Atlanta I'll take Houston easy in this one it's one of those AFC NFC match ups. Houston play -- well they play the colts pretty tough last week in Atlanta is going to win three games this year at best I'm just hoping this is -- I'll take Houston both ways AFC NFC the ship is sinking in Atlanta -- I didn't think the bottom how much worse but. Bobby Petrino in over his head as a pro coach. Collect the nice but it did he get one of those like. 20 million dollar deals are certain points. If so good for him he -- a Stanley up for life but it's a terrible experience go back to college yeah I'm impressed with Houston I think they're -- team on the rise in. I think I mentioned last week if deserves an NFC team I think you'll be a playoff team I think the probably be hard pressed to do that in the AFC but. I think they're improving acting Kubiak is doing a good job and -- so far has been certainly worth the target that they they put on him to go out get on. I think Texans are on the rise. Next game Baltimore for at Cleveland. This is a tough one for me. I think I want to go Baltimore and Cleveland with a number because I kinda want to pick Cleveland here I just I don't like this rotating quarterbacks often. You know the ravens haven't really haven't really impressed me this year I think -- get upset but I'll go with a better team and take Cleveland the cover. I go the ravens both ways although I agree not necessarily been impressive. I just gotta go the team that I think in general has more talent I won't be surprised if this is day ugly dragged out game. If this is always one of those games that Cleveland seems to have at home against Baltimore they seem to play well. But I'm going to take Baltimore for the third week in a row though probably screw me with a number because they've had big leads the last two and if kind of folded up in the fourth quarter you would think that their defense will be doing that but they have two weeks in a row. I think they're going to get it straightened out this week and really concentrate on on finishing strong and therefore hold on. You know to a to a lead that they'll probably get on the road. Com and other wrote favorite Chicago is three at Detroit. I heard you know Sean Salisbury says some stupid things but when you say the following. Brian Griese has as good mechanics as any quarterback ultimately I mean seriously. I just you know a lot maybe the bears are going to rally. But I am really rooting for them focus this brought all the sudden Brian Griese is an NFL quarterback the guys stunk for ten years I'm gonna go with the alliance here I think the bears are beat up on the fence I think the lions offense home moves the ball enough to win I'm going to take the lines as well there's the fans too many injuries I don't think Brian Griese. Is this godly cancer that some people think he could be I think they're players they're going in the wrong direction because the defense. An archer can handle carrying the load anymore in the offenses in. Hitting any -- I mean you're taking a step back whether Brian Griese helped you for a half a season or something. He still don't have your quarterback moving forward but I think the lines when I agree with you guys about Brian Griese I don't think that's the answer I think he's a back up at best. But I do think of all the turmoil that the bears have been through over the last year and a half now. With this situation it's been very emotional this this is what a lot of those players wanted to I think they get an initial push. In his first game with greasy and I think if Chicago wins this game in and and and covers as well. But I don't think long -- that they're in any better shape today than they were you know yesterday when right Rex Grossman was all the quarterback guy I agree totally with you guys. I just think that they're going to get that initial bomb of the adrenaline of making the change and after that they go back to what they were I was going to be a busy week for Vegas and other wrote favorite Green Bay two point favorite at Minnesota. -- for. I'm gonna go with the Packers I just think the vikings think in terms -- it against them personally only reasoning. Where is this came at Minnesota."

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[1:47:25]" I am going to go with the Packers. Grudgingly there be grudgingly because I NASCAR sky and just hope that Adrian Peterson doesn't run all over them that I think the Packers. Too bad teams the three you know bad Packers will not finish the season 16 you know these patriots. -- going to take an upset here and -- Minnesota -- Green -- in the papers on all my bases covered by I think what you do -- you know tends to struggle a little bit in Minnesota. He's played so well the first three games they you know that whole you know managing the game kind of thing that he's been trying to do this year. I think he's going to feel good about himself and hear all this good stuff that people insane and you know it's not thrown an around a little bit and like you said -- Adrian Peterson maybe. You know gets it done for them and tell if Kelly Holcomb is going to play you know him to have a little bit more of the chance to move the ball against green Bay's defense -- taken upset I think if my guys as Cooper's job that -- Until they want to play. -- mean Ohio -- itself what if --"

[1:48:33]" Finally a home favorite Dallas with a whopping 13 point favored over the rams to me this is a ten point line -- making Dallas 13 because they're good again and Republicans salivating. You know they don't play often with the rams they catch him in the spot sometimes they did -- when they were 13 and three it's it's one of those team obviously to see the cowboys play here. I'd be impressed of Dallas really welcome I think the struggle little bit -- take Dallas summit take the rams to cover just because the line is so big. If they really will bond the rams here and then I'll be impressed but. I think there's going to be a little little down here it is an emotional -- Chicago."

[1:49:17]" Others and I think the cowboys that -- the better team but it's a big number. I'm still not sold on the cowboys' defense and terms of playing consistent football on either side of the ball but the rams Stephen Jackson has -- banged up to. I don't know that I -- Jackson's. I think -- it's -- big plays at that passing game but they won't have enough to win the al making unanimous too big of a number for me here even without Jackson you see a lot of times. You know the team misses their big star in initially they're able to overcome in a little bit and you know guys pick up the slack I just I agree with Tom big emotional win for them -- Chicago I think it's hard to stay at that level I'll take saint Louis with the points but douse the winning game."

[1:50:00]" Tom another road favorite the jets -- three and a half against the over the bills in buffalo. No contest for me house and that -- locker room there demoralized Nathalie today -- injuries coming into the patriots game. They got a bunch in this game I just think. He's probably going to win another example of the team that went to a three games I hope it's not this week I'll take the jets. I'll take the jets to Tom says he was in that locker room he's lucky they didn't try to sign him because if there -- sinking ship in terms of talent every day somebody's getting hurt and there are internship in terms -- a league trip on any level they stink and -- India beat. I'd -- Can I think that'll take the jets both sides I think buffalo is one of those teams that. I'll be picking against every week this year and I'll take that to a three losses yet the Carolina home with three point favorite against Tampa Bay. You know a friend once told me that you don't want your wrong -- But sometimes that was a very smart I didn't even -- sometimes is that you say happened later. And number last year I was all on Tampa Bay don't live on the Super Bowl they could what are freaking game in first place of why. I I'm afraid that I -- I've missed my vote again but this week I'm going to go with Carolina is just hate. You hate to have Carolina come out your mouth because every week you never know who want to like the tour. If every every week you never know with the brain but hold on when to get my chance here late in the three"

[1:51:28]" choice -- like either team. I'll take Carolina because I've picked them Super Bowl and I think there -- more talented roster. Well I'm not sure feel good about David Carr plane. Picked him as their home more talented team I guess in general -- I wouldn't take Carolina and I would have the same trepidation you guys that. I don't have any faith in the panthers in all but just think they're better team."

[1:51:55]" Okay another -- favorite Seattle to over San Francisco I'm going to take the niners victim to win the division I think. I can't remember I've taken an -- San Fran is getting to via -- is Seattle's a two point favorite I'm still not I know Seattle won last week totally surprised by that -- just. I don't like I plaza Alexander's hurt I'll write and I know -- he's playing he's going to try to play through it by a God's going to help them -- in -- the fence. Shuts them down a little bit in offense -- role of the -- that statement hitters."

[1:52:35]" And I'm watching him I asked this in San frank you said I'm just going to say -- but San Francisco I don't like Seattle. And this week. Deion Branch doesn't have his big play nickel -- shuts them down. Our boy Patrick Willis plays all over the feel tonight please coverage -- he's good so I'll run with casual I don't -- Yeah -- talent that's yeah."

[1:53:01]" Highlight just haven't sisco on his game is well Seattle's one of those I think destined to be made teens and where my doing right now ball."

[1:53:11]" it yet. Close close window oh yeah battle. Window has hello I got that right as you start everybody was worried that they wouldn't be able to re sign all these guys Alexander they resigned what they want to re sign in the window was still close -- I'll take the -- okay and other wrote favorite Pittsburgh six Arizona like yours on his defense but I don't like this what's going and he ordered my current -- is washed up as then. What's wrong with -- now the trouble is if there's rumors that the players all want Warner so I just I think people want quarterbacks to be superstars way too early -- liners -- anything wrong to say that he should be the quarterback there. Maybe the players want Warner and for a short period it's natural for over 300 yards. We take Pittsburgh with the blitz to get toward. What the hell was the -- outside that I am -- I am going to say Pittsburgh you know it does that -- course it does because I think got Pittsburgh to better football team and I agree with nominal. -- know what that if you can wise and hunt you know on the hot seat. So unless -- it's good you're going to be on the hot -- a couple of years so build with -- liner and don't -- this always go to the hurry up will bring curt Warner and we need -- private that I was strange no hurry up with stupid I kind of take Pittsburgh to them a little worried about it don't across the country am you know in all that stuff and I like -- senate earlier I don't think Pittsburgh. It's proven anything yet so much -- just pencil in you know six point went across the country but. The Warner I think if the players want Warner I can understand that because the players playing for now the coach it is absolutely right behind it if if Matt Leinart can't play. Was enhanced not going to be a long term coach of the cardinals so you need to find out of the guy complain I think that's a mistake and give stunting the kids growth and I don't think it makes any sense at all. For the players I understand. Some of those guys are going to be here in three years they want to win now when Warner probably gives them a little bit better chance to win right now in line it. But I think you're you're sacrificing."

[1:55:16]" The good of the team you know for the immediate you know possible -- aliens -- take Pittsburgh."

[1:55:24]" I guess San Diego at home but it fell asleep in. Now just thinking because Denver India play in the -- the last time we went to a Monday night road game they played. The late Sunday team rules the Reggie Wayne era and do this is San Diego was 12 home against Kansas City. I would take San Diego to win but there's no way only and -- that team not what I saw the looks on their faces. I just don't know through there I I can't -- that. I just can't. Politics indeed -- both ways. One of these weeks I'm going to be right there make -- mound just explode because they have the talent and they say screwed or we're just going to score touchdowns and make plays. Although this is the week and I think this is finally I view it landed in the same thing it's finally the week that the other team can't think what enough points on the board. To prevent them from from getting the number Larry Johnson you know San Diego's defense is pretty good against the run so. -- united really hang tough and that that that offense Kansas City I'll take San Diego. Indianapolis nine and a half over Denver. In Denver and in Indianapolis I'm going to take the colts to win the Broncos with the number and is a big game for Denver I think they come home play well they run the football little bit against -- overrated defense -- Kosovo yup and these who usually play pretty good game so I'm going to take the calls to win the Broncos however I will do the same you know little disappointed in my Broncos I was planning on writing to the Super Bowl but now since -- going to go 60 you know they're going to go to the Super Bowl the colts score enough points. To win but the Broncos do indeed Travis Henry run the ball. Pushed this is what do and India said I'm going to take indeed both sides and I think that they usually below that it was off of the Broncos in the dominant people through again. Okay that no other road favorite the giants -- getting three points against the eagles I think last week was an aberration painful in the imitate the giants home at three. They had a good win last week -- another one here I just I don't like the eagles medals that there's good as they last week. I don't think the eagles are as good as it looked last week but I think -- giants I don't like the giants and hopefully Brian Westbrook replace -- so I think the yeah I'll -- Philadelphia to and I agree with both these guys I don't think either one of these teams is very good I think the giants really staying and that's wealthy Philadelphia. Monday night another -- favorite New England Patriots are seven and a half against the Cincinnati dangles -- a big line. Ovals only it's -- matter I think Cincinnati might stay around for a little while. You know I think will be up for the game I think the play loose club. Patriots coaches or whatever they need to run the football -- whatever patriots went pretty easily. Patriots role as I said on the TV show 42 to 17 number four on the way to 16 of these babies yeah I'll take the pats both both sides as well they're buys this week yes -- know Tennessee as a -- Okay want to make sure we in this and I want to read a portion of a -- mail from Phil Annapolis, Maryland. I'll lastly I'd like to make an -- my last email that seemed to suggest I want to lick the sauce off Paul's fingers at -- I should have written. All I want to let the sauce off your fingers Burrell. Well -- in the middle as and that's like your nickname but the way he originally typed it apparently made it look like he wanted to lick your fingers and you want to clarify. And then he also says Andy public whether you are the lollipop man because if you big head and get your weights in your HGH and start to work on that body again. And Gary way to go double blowing up -- great show. Well Phil thank you. I think we had a pretty good show today. But that's going to put the -- I don't know but I FW progress. Feel free to send vodka tequila and food at any time up next John -- with patriots playbook it will be back on Friday this is the FW progress."