PFW in Progress - 10/11/2007

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[1:44]" were back at the cookie to progress Gary doesn't open heck he's doing he's got everything eagles out here. If I'm back it's the original via W progress holds up this -- with the others -- reload joining me today we -- on the NFL later ball. -- okay why don't go around the NFL your your show we're living in the original and I think you should know that we usually do that in the second happened Thursday Lorie for -- to come down at some point hopefully. So all you guys with a locker room today with -- I'm not a -- the works locker room in the history of this team at -- offer this team there was nothing in the aptly enough that there were. Like guys poll -- the highlight of the day Randy moss walking by Oscar Lewin and hey Oscar. And we were shocked that Randy moss knows who lost a little ways -- maybe their friends in other side of Randy monsters fitting in taking the time to get to know. Every single patriot on down on the roster -- some common. What I don't know we've seen that before though were. Smaller guys that aren't important or friends live stars that mention that happens a lot debit. Coming into this I would never thought I would -- heard the words if you were told me last April that -- months that hey Oscar Lola. Any other player maybe get did you guys the other sports that are where they were talking about who was better mosser EO David Jones the camps call them. It's that a hundred times -- best friend them deals best friend. And he just had a terrible argument because you only I was arguing the point right and then what happens -- got the opportunities and didn't make them. So he said that Walt -- might be the same opportunities as Boston beat beauty of the same numbers well I saw Boston to pass on the quarter the end zone for a touchdown grab a called leagues actually path all the deal in the drop it. Terrible argument."

[3:46]" This isn't about numbers because people right mind boggling statistics that bulk rate receivers. You tried discussed whether night pick one -- is better than the other has nothing to do with numbers here you know to Terrell Owens once but when it was what's the record yet. 16 catches well I think those 20s money to win two points not brown 16 point one point two catchers in the game. Mean it's not about statistics that plane well above the rest receivers nicely now -- guys that made some Sunday equal them but. Right now those guys over the you know along all and in dominant. You're you're breaking down just you know kind of the talent level -- what the skill levels that -- different you know in Tom. Talks a lot about TO is musicality in in size and strength -- over the middle. In and I tenth. Focused on their hands that -- months as this you know which I admitted to in his trash toxic when he goes yeah I've hands you know the kind of important Hitler's and it and it and I like myself -- like my receivers to get open and catch the ball that's why I took -- must -- The numbers the guy wrote some -- say that to today Thomas. While -- TO you know was -- raise up and -- one thing straight he was playing in the second best offense right now with a quarterback who's going out of his mind to -- exceptional one game. So that's that's not have varied now."

[5:06]" Plenty of opportunities eight if you drop a ball in the second quarter it. You know when the game's on the line. Like that you're you're the playmaker -- you know like making -- the guy who calls attention he felt so if you want to call attention all the time these certainly have to make the play when the game's on the line. Yes but he is the original 81 as he said guessing some others where that number of someone to write an article out of his world at Houston that they may have -- up with him. He will where he was might stop it and he's just the result is not I mean yeah he's not just now he has no idea worry is he's. He's just off by himself could be side effects. At this time oh before we get to -- I've won more mosques and to bring up remind me about it but we should say thank you lucky. Who so yeah I spread today think we get our subs are wings. Lucky you're the greatest or should I say the US government which like Ortiz this lucky I have always said that the US government owes me and -- the users start at AB bad luck to you appreciate bookkeeping comin' right up until the point you get court martial. -- we're enjoying it steak and cheese today it will what was -- thing about -- I'll. -- pal Antonio has a new book out it's the most overrated and underrated. Everything I guess in football history and now. I mean going back and forth tidbits -- it tickets underrated. On one of the things and apparently haven't seen it yet but from what I understand. Both moss the end Owens are included in most overrated all really like and in. I just think it's interesting it's I think they're both pretty good receivers how how could they be overrated I mean look what they've done. I'm wondering if -- just going into all out like -- kind of stuff like but haven't they've lived up to the hype well. I don't know if you could ever live up some of the height while certainly TO could itself created it's nonstop hype I don't know if you could ever lists are like Chad Johnson living up to his own right sooner or later as little checklists goes to -- stimulant company or whatever but. I would take either of them on my team and certainly if you could keep them happy. Anybody who wouldn't want them on their team for like ten years is an idiot and is not going to win a lot of football games. I think any quarterback in their right mind would take physically Terrel Owens and Randy moss. Any time they could get their hands on I mean we've seen that -- here -- Brady so. I just how we're going to have to get our hands on the book to see what ever the argument might be against them but. I think it's a bad argument. Sounds like the argument that from football outsiders to mean projection was in good. The -- watch the games guys I -- the game I don't like the numbers stuff. You know I just if you can you take any number you want you lose your eyes numbers -- like the Bible you can use it to make any point that you want I can always find numbers that will back -- I like most profound than -- numbers are like a Bible because I -- you can buy anything you want the Bible as. I've been in church and boards are flipping through when there's places anywhere talked about like beaten your wife and that's okay and I am like. This Bible was about being good I just -- believe you were church but wedding viewpoint goes well Catholic -- you sit there forever too long. But I guess they look usually rise you know just huge rises who he -- better blah blah blah. Enough with the numbers so you guys excited about the game with the with them. I I'm very excited and I now think the patriots going to blow my of the African water oh yeah you have vote weird theories I I -- Kirsch like I think wade Phillips at predict."

[8:37]" On defense I think Dallas is taking this game. Too seriously at a they're putting too much into this game. And I am from that perspective I I tend to do at Indy but. Not for the same reasons and yet I think they're funny at times. When that predictable team has come in done well against the patriots and play at times or -- So I mean I'm excited about the game because I think it's the first you know I had always said this a couple of times but. I think this the first true test for them on the road the height and you know winner -- a five final team playing well. We'll see what happens but I think the patriots are going to win the game much pumping it will be very you know been easy --"

[9:18]" numb arm you know private think about the -- obviously -- as as we as we get closer. The less I like the cowboys chances I think if as funny as this may sound I think if they were three he had to. They'd have a better chance at home -- that the patriots. But beat him five at all no the patriots will be up for this the I think he got to catch the patriots I'm not their best today. Could that they bring their best game the only person can stop that it's the Manny in my opinion -- ethically perfectly heeded the AFC championship game. I just think if the cowboys and patriots both played their best game. The patriots still went -- and and the patriots you know -- could be used this as a measuring stick five an old team and in those beat those games I just opened the paper levels of."

[10:03]" Yeah no I I tend to agree with it Tom I think the way you put it the close of the game comes I would agree with that and I think. And I think this is too much balance with the patriots in -- too many things that Dallas going to have to contend with on both sides of the ball but especially on offense for the patriots. I think they're not only balance between running and passing the ball but their -- in the way they can pass the impasse it deep they can you know if you want to spread it out and you know go to deepen double cover the long ball -- make sure you don't let the big play -- Tom -- is content to dump but often. And not take the shortstop and move the chains that -- put together 101215 play drive they've done so many times so I think their balance overall on offense is what separates."

[10:45]" Yet not one thing that the national media I'm surprised the -- talking about a lot that we've been kind of bringing up his. They're literally talked about the loss of Anthony Henry which to me in this game is huge. Maybe it just because I know Jacques Reeves and I know -- you play but I was speak it would Albert career the Dallas morning news. And he said he thought the cowboys only chance was the -- physical the line with the receivers and some pressure. And while I agree with that and they do it without Anthony Henry in the -- you got a guy who's basically a fourth quarter. Who would be I would even count them as a -- not that good a need to have up on Stallworth you don't play involvement -- it's a dangerous game -- wonder and I know Billups like the play that way what do we see one of those games -- that -- wondered why are they bump with the receivers and maybe that's."

[11:30]" Why and I would make an amendment little bit -- Albert said in just say. They I would necessarily think the way to go about it and pressure. Get pressure yes but I think if you're going to play physical with those receivers and you're not going to have any help there. -- you're asking for trouble whether your -- getting pressure or not and I think that if they have to send extra guys to get pressure on Brady I don't like that for the column I chance I think he was talking like with -- where those guys down in about it's just ridiculous format Russian guys get there then yes I think that that can happen but I have to get. Like I said they have to do extra stops an extra rushes to get to get increase based. I don't think that's the way to."

[12:10]" About it in the I was just finished -- have been doing what he's nice spread -- seven analysts and thanks to lucky -- and talking about markets where builders said in the press conference best player in that draft. Which is kind of inching whenever he puts a superlative on somebody that's pretty definitive but that is also pretty good that was pretty top heavy record draft has some guys that made relatively quick impact personally shown better. -- in the draft you know please virtually the same exact position where does that as I said my locker room. Built -- at those patriots chargers games where I've been very much underwhelmed with Shawne Merriman am very impressed and maybe he seen that up close you know what they've been able to do against him it's as you know what this you know he knows how good Matt -- says you know what discussion -- what I've seen where do a little bit more often and built it -- this incident or a lot of similarities -- they've played in the style and the way that -- used them. But what I I've seen -- make more plays I'm not saying you know -- time but more plays in the passing game. And actually -- and not that bad in the impasse and that's that's surprising all right but he's the one really if he sticks out an army just covered a lot of -- Latin if you saw the interception should Tom that it probably matches like wallpaper homers than ours computer. He simply he made against Atlanta. -- picked up the pass deflected too often and -- Randy including -- made by for a touchdown. Just an unbelievable play -- one of those NBA guys -- wing span is bigger than the height of the way to audio center or wing span despite only being six then he. And it's surprising to me that I would say that because he's the one came from the smaller school -- that you would think that he would have the more well -- game I think he does have -- well these natural athlete that's probably the better natural that he -- more -- all right better but -- as -- guys on our side natural might -- an -- to -- and I don't know I'm not going to -- no -- always I don't know what I -- about -- but we do not something on -- certainly not make that assumption with canned -- on the safety for the cowboys this site selection after playing Jesus -- Joseph. As that -- we shouldn't have -- is the ones they should watch in the crotch now is not a Tom I know."

[14:23]" Yeah this is the guy who called up to me when I come in this morning and he knows about the idea for feature story guys changing in the locker. -- ask that features that I play I didn't know it was kinda like when you stop bill and he doesn't really know at this day and I just looked up evidence that -- Ask about the I'm you know is an uncomfortable when did you ever get used to it -- was like remember the first time I was going to tell my Bledsoe story that the first ever did on the second question he dropped his -- and I start fumbling bumbling and I was -- not so private parts at a at a Ortiz he can go to patriots dot com get a subscription patriots always. -- read a story about that no it's always there now is on comfortably you know all the players might -- Guys in naked and just. You does what us in terms of what that means it is featured yet -- not so private parts we -- We don't have anything for what do we get something that titles -- one other thing I was most of with a winner and I wonder -- that revealed that has built mostly field tomorrow you can squeeze him 15 other questions as a couple questions -- all -- you got shut up three Byrd's career without question that's a record. I just had a couple things that wanted to ask that wasn't here yesterday by keeping thinking about those couple things -- right now if Hewitt here -- you'd asked six questions by this week. Like as it was now -- US yesterday but the people here three more tomorrow. One other thing I wanted to ask was is seems like the movement winner right before the snap to the other side. Is how tough is that to double team you know it because they swap commodities they swap that they were -- buffalo they were swap them. So Beattie is that make alot harder to double team someone wondered it would --"

[16:18]" There's going to change your whole protection sliding one way or the other thing. Depending on how close to snap that is in what you play clock is -- and the timing of it and the if they have time the Mets when you see Brady just reset. You know the Mike and they just changed their calls on the other aspect of that I'd say might be an issue is if game coping camp. -- I know Russell -- a great job and I wrote Paul story but. He still not your every game center with the comfort level between the quarterback in all the other linemen. Making those types of calls and those types of adjustments that might have to come. In 452 span coming down to play klux -- that be some and a definitely keep an -- fell asleep in the I think they'll be okay and that side with Brady like a block -- where -- the other two -- Brady you know Brady is on a side. Now you're really adjusting trying to get Kyle Brady to a -- to help -- a catcher like what that's what that they didn't Miami did they they kind of brought Taylor on the the other side to play against as your little they -- him around a bunch -- they had both outside little -- Alexander's -- right to -- you bring a player you count the Medal but I am just -- remember how we we've we've been -- to say and I wonder why no one -- look at -- that Miami game plan right in. I wondered what someone is going to that I know that the cowboys -- players similar to Taylor. In where that would reduce -- as Miami had the signals and what's doing as. I'm -- wade Phillips and signals I guess that way doesn't Horry is it was probably match in the injury report came out yesterday after Rasho and there were a couple of additions Asante Samuel and it -- Thomas both listed strange to see -- scientists and I was it would fort. Anybody find that odd and -- knows yeah person here that was -- I've gotten a black staff that was the biggest the size to me or other words when you print out that is a realist. You don't actually look at -- pitched that it's covered by a big black box or something that is the way they do it meant though. And complain about what that was a surprise element will be or putt I met him at first we got lucky."

[18:15]" On the -- he's a guy who applaud -- launched today. -- the US I don't know the US government wasted thanks well you -- all of that -- Oh is great phenomenal on a penalty which way to go about it. Now that they don't cut it present on the bill -- in which you know development pressure at all I. I was I was born here -- they -- every stop except for a while I couldn't look like. Who work. That's raised its done it. A -- the radio show what we're talking about."

[18:56]" The game this is the markets where is he can be a disruption if they move him around if if he could be the headache in. And Tom -- Tom -- backside in him what he could do to hurt this offense."

[19:08]" We have a great -- are -- and my account open it. But I'm -- so well yeah communal -- but so well so far. That you know you wouldn't expect you know bottom out like you know like we had Miami last year for example -- playing right now but. I just think that's a big big key to the game is -- wear and maybe to a lesser extent Anthony Spencer he get pressure without the cowboys having to do anything special. To get him Brady's face they have a shot if not -- think that Brady's picks apart up our press -- was -- not to play there is that 2000. Those sponsors okay -- Anthony Henry."

[19:46]" Well mom although it was about it was Anthony -- maybe it would -- what they've said I think it should be said. Oh yeah was already hurt but I thought it was not that."

[19:56]" I know of he was of their laid against buffalo. -- I totally see any names on the cowboys in the report that they'd be a scratch my head yes to check on that just to make sure because I remember a couple of weeks ago. We have one about one about lewis' talk about Terrence McGee being injured none of us know anything about it all of a sudden the next day. On the Thursday Terrence McGee was listed as being questionable and he didn't play ultimately in that game. So sometimes you guys or step ahead of us I don't remember seeing Anthony Spencer on the injury list but."

[20:24]" Problematic got a computer might be wrong I don't know except -- it was -- that that the -- early and looking do."

[20:33]" He's thrown around. You know while I saw that and I I think you're right I think he might as said -- Anthony Spencer accident go to this green setting up the knee injury ED I admit that might be yet I think you're right he Gary just. -- force. Not yet Anthony Spencer is not listed on the injury yet you're right it was clay in who he set it -- The Anthony Henry did not just in practice we knew that. And and now full participation of practice Courtney Browne Kevin Burnett Keith Davis and the infamous Oliver. Will be open with the"

[21:10]" Soccer game -- I'm gonna go to guy can't pick out you gotta be some idea Donte' Stallworth big upgrade our you -- we're gonna get -- reads the replacement for Anthony Henry. I think Stallworth hasn't night's game. Ben Watson. How many used -- theory that Roy Williams can't run with -- athletic tight ends I'm going to go to not going to graduate your way that -- pointless at this --"

[21:36]" That's my -- Who was -- Samuels -- Two -- soccer I sticky caused problems for a guy like Tony Romo who is okay you know occasionally careless with the football NY is kinda cornerback watch -- Jervis green speaker on the fifth cool."

[21:52]" You know hopefully get some facts but I hope we don't plus Mark that's exactly what more good when he gets out the pocket and make some players like it. But if you called up the pocket I got to have look for mediocre at best years -- we --"

[22:05]" Yeah maybe he'll catch that happy united beat TO -- I would say please when he's watched by yeah early in the game last week it was he was going for Witten the first Williams -- man guy he looks for first. Are lucky well thanks a lot thanks for Garland -- what you saw that he a man don't worry about it. Just the government two holes -- it just 20 degrees below zero and hear him Moxley's that life brings me. No you're right he should have Monica's coldest crap and here well it's almost QB Orlando he says afternoon bitches. One word the fans giants put up 35 points on Dallas buffalo one plea for winning the game the rest the Dallas. Els wins were just allowed five teams quickly -- The cut the team's the cowboys played the once X games the teams the patriots played -- seven games the if you think the patriots that it would -- if the that's fine. But don't -- that they haven't played anybody and I also -- they -- common -- buffalo -- seven against the patriots -- and to be -- the other three -- just not just our listeners I looked -- the power ranking -- the end -- of the patriots -- rolling along and -- the -- to recuperate -- anybody you know -- I was number one -- rolling -- in the number three team -- this has -- number one team has been there -- done that yet. That's exactly and Dallas I probably wouldn't you like different argument and I I'll only have to -- bills every lines there you don't need to you know what I like I -- Sampras you know -- we've we've -- both the green -- and people like -- now. All that much topic that we Don properly. In my opinion the patriots have proven over time that's going matter the opponent has been generally an Apple level of success. This is the first time Dallas play at this level right and -- it is still untested to meet lights they -- you're looking if you're looking I know as you tolerate it -- I know how do you think they. I just think there's not that many good teams. So I don't expect any team to come along and I would just about -- honestly I don't palaces over rated not that they -- would be an example I think it's India it was a much more impressive victory in dallas' Don despite the fact it's and -- was -- right. I think that that's pretty talented team that struggled a year I think it Indy here I would -- final 11 and five but I gather they assess the cowboys might be a little overrated at this point but -- there winning and they have. You know play makers are both sides of the ball and I and I -- no less they have -- able we've beaten teams with six will always behind. That they should be at a I don't know what the rankings. And it -- they -- had an average for the three he's saying well they said yeah I just don't like the fact that that that's what you write about them. It would bother me if they were like seven. Out -- but he -- at a point in Jacksonville out there at third I believe now as well as that you know. If the -- war -- can understand that argument extent by Pittsburgh. I could that could maybe take that obviously it's -- to -- You know. They ranked up there and I can live with that criticism because I think mightily it's true that prove and it's Smith says the when he says they've they've followed -- but there. Idea -- to rephrase that we said they're close third but. That are -- are behind yet distant closely there are stock about it and I I'd like definitely the band can't do you wish after this morning I asked about about various does all the work the NFL network you know like I love them and I don't want to -- Everywhere but -- have an opinion but -- had won a -- what we should mention that the -- that thing as we going to give. Something you've got you're I've disagreed on if you props on. He says the hottest coaching commodity this sought this upcoming offseason will be. You know it was an -- whose job McDaniel I like what about bill cower. He -- he says -- I will be a bigger name this guy will be able coveted. Is what he said that's what I said that you cinema -- because the offense. Yeah and that's why it will be. What you said that people's they would because well I -- I say yet what he -- I said. He needs to get the same credit Tom Brady does he was good when he had no talent and he's good when he has talent that they -- all of my material that's my I doubt in my mind that's been my argument. I think he was underrated grossly last year for the same reason Brady liked I think it coordinator the quarterback is Atlanta coach you think he'll be one of the hottest coaching and I -- that I said I don't think you'll get a job this year I think -- wrong in that any one year away got a I think everything else. You if you say Tom Brady was good last year in great this year. Then you have to say judgment Daniels was good -- It's the same same argument battle tanks they must wait a year writers think I mean Atlanta I don't know look at all the bad coaches that are out there -- got to figure out what the active looked I mean who's going to be. A quota the Carolina that'll probably be our. If they if he goes -- that he's in the bill Bradley if what that means box will be available right stat eagles game worse so I think rather just throwing it out they actually have to say. Well these five job might be open the jets. You know but I don't think they'd go down that road they happened before he added elevating a look at the specifics a little. I don't think it's gonna happen either but I think they'll be very funny evolves that it would -- genius to work it is the rams maybe I'm just I think winning could be in trouble. Some of these teams who. Now you're just change on the fly left -- right. That's an as the problem yep that was something in place of right and you know what. I'm rooting for the guys like winning hand like cam Cameron like you know Sean Payton you know -- wasn't hunt in Arizona. I like the fact that some of these teams took chances -- ground hired guys that what is the bright you know the judgment -- Eric Mangini whoever. I don't like when you know wade Phillips is third. Regulate coaching job and I need to realize this so built talked about it today. He was an interim twice. That was why don't regret what I Atlanta or questions I don't like who built turns question five times -- now Denver Atlanta he was -- coach well. But it was a regular coach and -- that he take over -- the -- so it's really only sports that I thought that's how it happened well that is I don't know other TV you know whatever way it -- you know it's I mean I've seen what I. I need to see from -- I've seen what I need to see from Norv Turner wade Phillips had. All these other guys that they just continue to give another job to. Now I'm not saying what bill said while praising him he also kind of took Shania felt like I'm not saying that down. That you can't iron that looked as funny guys that have done an on the second chance and none bigger than one we have right here with -- ballots. You know John fox in my opinion is done enough in Carolina to warrant a second chance somewhere else if the if in fact you know was done after this year with the panthers. But I don't think every guy just automatically warrant a second chance in some guys are so bad that they don't. You know -- Dave -- be given a second shot -- what do you think ill prepared you know I mean I like the fact you know Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh I give Pittsburgh a lot of credit because. All those other teams that that used an unproven guy. I had you know they they were -- maybe the job give the jets credits it with mean -- because you know that they're big you know big time franchise too but. -- a lot of the other teams like Arizona and saint Louis they could afford to do Pittsburgh was a pretty good team that two years removed from the Super -- when he made last year. But they had to hire black coach while I know why did -- but it'd have to -- unproven one. I've been agreed but I hired anybody that would have been a retread. I wanted him but that's why that's why I think Pittsburgh that are right they'd want to -- to -- the you know at the -- an entire new guy regardless of the gonna be -- was not the issue -- gave -- Russ -- other. The issue with -- Daniels is. I think me -- found a good situation New York because of Tampa. Because they had a relationship. And you put together two guys who were on the same page. Beat Daniels if he gets tired in saint Louis I don't know listening -- right with the argument is is he going to be coaching commodity which -- yes yes -- because this but I don't ago 14 I don't play -- he's -- I'm the only one that didn't think that. Not and because -- I I think I give it -- 8009 on the show why he's going to be smart find the right I didn't think he would even be on the radar this offseason for a coach yes of that stat and I was an habit that I am wrong that the discussion it's not whether he would -- get old and I actually think he would is the guy that. My turn a couple down. Before he sees fit I don't think he's ready. Oh I don't even know about that I just think he had left allied himself and I'd say. I'm not ready OR that's not a good bidder that's I don't work that owner. And he'll wait for the third one good one and I also said the same thing about me genius and he was ready I was -- now -- down whenever -- out he was ready to -- he proved that he could handle. Running the ship now whether or not get the right players to do it. It remains to be I drive in the -- before we handle ship for the first after the way we get to the phones again Cincinnati another. Place to watch out for coaching change at the Josh during that -- policy I don't know poll. If he gets a -- Mike brown sells the team did you get some assurance that assurance is spent some money in scouting and talent whose GM makes decisions there. I don't know. They got what I believe your -- and got one of those weird situations that's the issue now on paper looks great 'cause we're given offensive coordinator Carson Palmer Chad Johnson T. J. Houshmandzadeh. You know all these guys that looks good but. Behind the scenes animal from the artist formally known as Rudi Johnson let's."

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[31:51]" I want to make sure that some of the Jack that was Sam Alia thanks aka does make sure you don't actually look into the park that they can't two point but one thing they look at it from the Philippines yeah. I -- to talk about -- I guess watching yep patriots good little bit kind of -- rather system is that if you know anybody would be NFL ticket. You know this Sunday ticket -- ideal you know I actually you know I upgrade and I got the super -- I mean the super fan. I know I used to log on to direct TVs web site you watch super -- it's only an extra hundred much -- that -- anybody that. That's nice little way to get around that's a good idea. Yeah exactly -- when he -- there Melbourne. In let them watch it through this to protest that way."

[32:41]" This is right not something we should be discussing patriots dot com but. I'm sure many fans out there appreciate this little heads up the slope that."

[32:49]" Cold -- someday actually in the future the patriots you know just you know offered some way to watch you know you pay a monthly -- into what -- games. But then you know probably too many teams in the big."

[32:59]" I don't worry if -- can find a way it'll happen right. But I think -- this they're still tied into the league in the direct TV talk about but. That is a good little tip for fans they -- put it this way at the P over here but out your start to say. You know I don't think we should be share all the you know it's on its way it's."

[33:17]" On the way. You know what's -- is. You know you guys just talking about it -- well and holding as a talk about coaches again I remember guys. Making a point of like you know who could we have replaced like -- check in the English if it ever -- Is you know what I find shocking -- that did look well in -- your name mentioned why is that."

[33:39]" While he had a what dale Hansen yeah I had a chance and since he would be at work now bomb. I don't know too much about him as a head coach if he's if he's a type a that it would get another chance I'd always a great defensive coordinator. It seems to be from just the stuff but I kinda read is that he's happy again being a defensive coordinator that's the -- I've -- from him is he didn't like the taste of the head coaching. And he's happy just dealing with his defense enjoyment side of the ball being the number two man"

[34:06]" and another one I have is that Jimmy Johnson in Philadelphia you know another great offensive mind I think."

[34:11]" Yeah how he is he somebody who doesn't want to correct he's the Monte Kiffin yeah they pay him very well couple million bucks a year coordinate. And that he he's not I don't think he's interest it."

[34:25]" That would. Over -- I do not long way to go baby and I think I've had a Brazilian girlfriend and Brazilian accent drive you know. How would you. You know register -- and it can. And she and she just got that -- do all Brazilian girlfriends get Brazilian you know lots. She's hot too. They're Brazilian and I just was fortunate to get then that way right. Regulators ABA that he called."

[35:03]" While got anything well he had Dick LeBeau by the way 12 and 33 as head coach but -- did normally not go well and -- I just does that lost I mean how welts that play out the he remembered -- while say it is they went to a 14. In 2002 his final year Marvin was human when he made. So I don't know how many additions there were. But that's that's pretty striking contrast the other thing I will status as -- why in united actually thought that it wouldn't be a good place. Mike brown Mike brown yes is basically you know the dot. They have listed misses that player personnel department Kampman read it in its entirety it won't take very long senior Vice President of player personnel -- it's vice my brother Vice President player personnel Paul Brown. And he did not him son director of football operations obviously that's just -- clerical position more last director of player personnel -- stout. No that's how I did not misspeak scouts as in cingular are not not -- Greg semen. Scouting consultants they have to post. -- over -- John Cooper and personal assistant. Which is just -- you know -- glorified the base of the of that how that always is -- midwest that's -- Jerry Jones may well they're they're sort of the personnel things kinda like that Steven -- wreck theory is now about talking about they don't even have people -- that I have a everyone's got -- fixed that evidently not. That's a joke -- have once scouting to -- city showcase him out of this stadium and -- even trying to might not be a great place -- there's nets they know when they called for the interview or as Gary continue to point the calendar there what is going on behind the scenes."

[36:56]" And here you you know he's the -- from see -- with a -- computer on the air. He says who has a bigger -- moss or Owens mosques also I think the ball but -- pretty good games but I'll go with moss because -- I Mena to Terence Newman sounded like he was barely able to walk -- tournament seriously doubt -- according to parents do what he's -- he's quite a fireman oh notice that they are. Taken out back and shot. Also widespread -- mine. Yes it's been -- now he picks the cowboys to win I thought we -- the website it was bad enough I also that's the woody he has to get a -- called me. Why the that he this -- Mark with a C."

[37:42]" So don't get this Steve with a -- thing. This is Janet one of our favorite -- says hello afterwards sorry break him to say hello pitches back up what his thought they -- Been signed to a contract extension obviously last year's olympics were a -- He already has three this year obviously may be spent better. You think the 49ers would gladly exchange -- Bubba Gump Clement straight up for a Sunday I truly think yes. What do you think the pats will do with him next year let him go franchise them again or replace it with a free agent if so will be well they -- franchise in the I mean I've never actually seen that the piece of paper but by all reports they agreed to 60% of the snaps or 12 wins. He's going to pass both of those in all likelihood are certainly 12 wins look like a -- this team so."

[38:33]" He's not going to be franchised so -- my guess is my hunch is he's already an expatriate just hasn't become finalized yet. I certainly don't see him handing him 25 million dollars like some other team and I don't think they well. And would have they you know what if they don't think they feel comfortable with with him but even now. The answer is doing it on -- field I think I still think they have doubts and I think if you have any doubts it's in your best business interest even if he's good. To walk away because you don't want to regret that and say I knew I shouldn't give up much now if he gets a free agency then I think. You know -- about but I think if they can get to him in November or December. Like reportedly it would trying to do late last year and let's say yeah -- two point five million. Maybe they can do that he takes because he likes it here he knows he can succeed here in officers at a much effort point five million I think you'll stay. But you know maybe he can get 3540 million if you. Maybe it's. I don't -- you get that ridiculous but I think if they if they came -- about -- big money like in the first year or like guarantee well first like two years like virtually you know guaranteed money that comes very quickly. I think if they came to him with somethin' up in that 25 million dollar it was a big I think he'd I don't see why they wouldn't they would be wanted to do that. I I understand it totally last year because they had in the back at him -- the spot that a lot of our fans. That you know he's been an assistant and he's made to be to look a little bit statistically. Maybe better than he has -- he had it in his defense and his to his credit. A tremendous year. But maybe in -- can duplicate that like they keep showing that he can duplicate I don't care but doesn't have an answer remains you think -- I want to be carefully I don't want to about shots I've known not value I don't think that means you are insured that he is. Mentality a -- nature. That you're gonna get the exact same guy you've gotten. But that's true -- low -- but I'm saying if you have any doubts I think it's in your best business interest to take a chance to go the other you're thinking or rather than pay a check for the next ten years when you said you know what. My gut told reaction to re sign him but I did so you think the bigger reason that day more reluctant to sign him it was because they awards sure that. They were getting the most focused scientists and again with him being hungry yet. I think they have some trepidation I think he might you might be right and neither one of us is right in his speeches. We're not telling us what the reason let if you feel that way it's hard even if I would have you got a -- I would agree with it was a lot of yourself tool for eight years and at a yet what was sort sort of coming out of from different angles I agree with you if he performance wise idea I think they would do it in my 83 have you -- more beyond performance is they feel like it they're worried about what happens to him if he gets that money -- tie the first timing at the big deal. In the get baton in his production went down I think that's people's and I think that he."

[41:32]" Played very high level for the bulk of that contract I think he had a a sub par 1999 season. That's -- about it and I was the first year that they had a -- played. To you know to his level that you put my and his team 1999 versions the best cornerback on the team right. But I I think that and for his level I think he played so well in 98. That was the area all the picks and much of the pro bowl and all that stuff that earned him -- contract. That was the inevitable drop off but I think every time in at that point in his career believe -- he was he came into the league in 95 Tom. He went three years 959697. Now four years 98 without ever having allowed a touchdown in coverage really. He didn't allow -- first touchdown tonight I think he's one of the best quarters out of proceed pretty good player now and we these phenomenal intelligent how much risk -- did you watch last night navy and that -- I watched a lot of data watched."

[42:30]" A lot of -- outspoken back and forth but I watched like the fourth quarter and overtime I was felony and he used to -- the they have and they have McCoy a running back -- who's liked and the new Tony doors he's phenomenal at like 250 on the ground make unstoppable. So there down by three in overtime they have third and goal from the two they throw that they have fourth and goal from the -- they do. State I love it and even it was it was such bad play calling even Lou Holtz committed to say and so we said you know if -- political -- fourth down why not run the ball on third with a diving he has stoppage. That wants that but I was I have no idea what you guys were doing yesterday other than prank calling a guy like support it and discuss it -- I -- yesterday -- hitting towards Kerry simply because she hasn't been violated by Leonardo DiCaprio. This group that -- is way -- yes I agree who who was picking Carrie Underwood. For somebody. Well I don't know if anybody really knew it. He is now. Did you just agree that it token because because that's his boys yet girl all -- if you were being serious. Giselle yet I don't even think there's a competition I think between those two inches -- I just don't think it's Ellis. She wouldn't be in my top ten or 20 I had to make a list hottest -- and all that sounds completely out of 40 -- babes. I think that I'd like you to make -- when he out of girls that yourself I just want to look at Gary can you effort that for me. Actually just have the email -- to somebody put together a list of ten hotter than -- an email it into Tom -- the with potential links to any photos that are available on the Internet what one more they'll take strippers going to I had -- the people strippers works well I don't watch I I want. Famous classic you know I want famous he partnership I'd say -- classic -- why you know I believe -- and national qualified he thinks he's -- Yes I wouldn't call her classic by any stretch British or knowing what if you acquire mom from Dallas has a -- the did you quite says former cowboy state do a local radio show in Dallas says. It at the -- about -- dog man both played well the pats will win because they're overall the better team. He had that the game was more important the cowboys since it is a measure of how good they really are if they get a chance to meet the Mets in the superbowl. I guess they pretty much feels the cowboys need the -- to make mistakes if they'd cowboy going to. Going to win at the same kind without was left to play a perfect game -- I mean like -- drug -- nate Newton was make he's pretty good sense I would agree with that you know that that entire analysis right -- NFL network right now when that and I'm sure he's saying some call was let's correct it -- Gary let's take a break"

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[49:29]" All right we're back PFW progress I'm Sally are all Murillo and -- what. But dresses web radio feed our web address what's written a fair way and left radio patriots dot com -- it don't know by now I have an original 50854 in the seven or 82 in the fold number. -- confident for what we're talking about before passing people -- great coach but I believe most of Marvin lewis' success is based on the players in his system. Carson Palmer was drafted by Lewis and Ted Johnson was drafted the year before I believe players make the coaches for the most part. Well when I give you many many examples of that not being true it's reasonable champions -- but yeah I am pretty should I don't want patriots were the most talented and in the we have we'll also the rim for more talented. In the patriots yes yeah that's not here's a concern that. Oh but would have some tennis in the I don't know I -- stated that was -- more talented than the main impact talents are better team."

[50:30]" That that I would I would you know point -- to a politics as comes -- last question today. -- about practicing indoors no one non socialist you -- on the Steve bird nest well. We sleep -- their plays bad run he advanced the defense goes into something in. The last manners I didn't even understand the question so therefore the answer it was totally live -- lot of coaches like to have that record -- Pacific. I never funny Steve I felt like Billy Madison and -- the since about one and no point to right now in an incoherent babble was there anything resembling a point."

[51:08]" Yeah I didn't have the --"

[51:10]" Jimmy but Orlando is backe was bullet talked about the scared subtleties that. Cleveland is is a good tough team who would you pick the rams -- Cleveland San Diego talented bills rivals until the third. Were honest to a third quarter Cincinnati a lot of weapons to shut down I was looking -- the strength of schedule so much the -- look at those 15 teams who goes all of five teams who lost to. There's -- the patriots -- better football team in the -- because there's no -- I'm just saying but I -- schedules -- just -- to say -- the better -- more physical up -- that's a -- argument comes -- if you're arguing with the cowboys -- at -- using that -- even as -- find another argument -- solely to -- you have an endless -- and it and it starts and -- personnel and the -- stick -- the poke -- and you have an enormous -- I -- think that the -- schedule the patriots have played. A tougher schedule. But it's marginal it's very very -- the 11 quick story and the coach arena. My mother she policies -- a football Connors or when she's she's been around. On the -- with -- my father she she she Pollard Pollard president your father that's how we ended up with you don't follow the giants the cowboys in the patriots now. And they -- watch him the cowboys game the other night with a bat from the Yankees and they kept short wave peel off looking like a deer in the headlights the and he said and -- other -- my father. Who's that guy looks like he's lost my father said that's the cowboys coach. So there's by mother just watching a game asking who's the old man -- like it looks like he's lost. And that is the guy running the show in Dallas this command and like I said. It's nice to start out five -- all let's see how Dallas finishes the that's probably more interest it and right cowboys versus patriots good morning gentleman. I believe the media is looking for the 13 to join the patriot -- in this league of the league. I think that the NFL also hoping. For that because otherwise the Super Bowl will most likely be between the colts in -- two weeks prior. The NFC is a weaker conference -- they need more than -- to compete with the AFC. I guess everyone is excited about role while the cowboys c'mon guys there are so overrated. All teams have played it rate schedule with the talent level cross the border with him on even remember the word. Of the day for the Sunday experience we've been there done that. Note drops snaps here go pads Williams in Hattiesburg. It"

[53:39]" you know what's funny is I'd put the cowboys ahead of the colts and you guys make economy but. You and the cowboys ahead of the colts and what the in my power rankings now I think the cowboys have -- a very good chance of being a more balanced football team do we have nothing to do so last hour because you can really really attack and when I'm just saying a leave Dallas I don't take the bait for a change. But wouldn't it be I think this would be great for I think Dallas I think Dallas has a great chance you know -- a long way to go I think they have a great chance to be. Last year's players. The best of the NFC tank and it doesn't take much so you don't have to be a good way you know wouldn't it be better for the league you know these conspiracy hitters that think the league is up against the patriots. What to be better for the league if Dallas wins this game. This regular season game so that way when the Super -- comes around -- body of sand off they have no chance they have already played Watson patriots beat -- and they beat him in Dallas when Dallas was five an all and if they could beat him and that's why are they going to be having here while Dallas wins that at least as two weeks of injury that super."

[54:39]" All you know. And no one else -- outweighs the superdome the Super Bowl watch help from my Redskins the other still speak that are on the -- who there they only lost one when you come up with a new -- on. -- 80s that's Corso. -- who battle is on -- I would no doubt I think Sean Salisbury is don't sleep on Phil yeah like that's the deal they're going to come back reject. But I think the cowboys have a long ways stability in the -- in their defense is playing great if Campbell can continue to improve I think there's going to be a factor I used I would pencil again with the coaching there. Let's me out -- I don't with the coaching I'm not I'm not canceling anything no I don't I I look like I don't mean you I've read a lot of people are stating elder of the team that's going to Super Bowl remember 11 thing that we haven't talked about. Two games Gil hasn't done much if he gets shut out this week and they lose. I will be at that locker because real up yet it's out there and it's gonna be you know all the sudden it's I it's not going to be that soundbite that he says a lot I don't mind being the equally yet you still yes you do. Else I watched you know we've found out something yesterday Tom kind of disappointed in the united. With the ESP and things and all that stuff that they do those main events there are scripted. Yes it is I who can't stay here yet but you know it's it's all like they actually had a -- now pay an annual they -- dividend they give it to the players and they haven't read the line -- And you know so I kind of lost a little bit as -- forming even not in the -- of those segments anyway -- it was like spontaneously but I thought they elected like a long interview and then and pit stop I guess it's their purposes panic putted up that's what I thought. Now it's just that's what I. Anyway it is always a secrets of EST let it happen now on I'm taken a step further almost it's ESPN radio this one with Mike and Mike and Sean Salisbury is on. And you know how they do that day is it for instance and which what's what what's the what's the Sheila and it felt like. The that the night which right and it alive. And they have the fort down segment that Salisbury -- with John Clayton all the time in Salzburg is always like rip and Clayton -- he's missed our last night it -- for the most part white spots able out goal it's filled and bird. Salisbury earlier in the week evidently and and last night you besides Salisbury -- article exact you know I haven't won a shy I've been -- for eight years. I didn't watch Michael equity the only resided item one -- in his sleep or something like that. So -- it's parents -- bats today and -- to say hey look you know. I'm I'm there I'm doing something -- and I got the British itself an okay job Clinton's going to come on you gotta you gotta really give to -- it got really diverted John now like the -- Sean doesn't. You gotta do this in this generally very best. Look at all with Sean Salisbury does he could do whatever he wants until I'm Dora the way I want so evidently everything and is and is totally script right they make characters that's all they are there budget here you know like they make it look like they're only real estate is idiot at a but -- they set it up like -- to consciously Salisbury Clayton and make sure I watched it's all fake right because sometimes if they can -- I don't think that was -- you know what I acute because they get mean but they do get they get really mean with each other and and Clayton -- so -- it's it's painful to watch it's like roll museum classics like roll on his eyes and stuff -- one point last night solvers it's comments on them and it took. Clayton like Hughes stumble and fumble in. But once I think I heard Salisbury. Like take a shot at the disease that Clayton Dwight Patterson and then it was like. Cool I know -- least as. Good that's what I don't get. He's not funny he's not a good character he's not in any way a good analyst like. You know what would be like but it doesn't like take pictures of girls or is he your hump and what -- there like a story yet there was some kind of sexual thing that has to keep his job I would out of the -- It go into this -- Lewis in the whole house which long. Is it be that successful and yes he -- acceptable. Thank you very much like I know that the words not a get kicked off once for sing that old Corey Dillon network and -- they'd get out. Classic moments of -- that your practices. This is the guy who claims he never swing at radio it's"

[58:58]" Stephen Montana -- that I with a birdie yes -- as I have heard that the cowboys and I keeping Roy Williams spoke with them Randy moss. Well that's advantage patriots if they only double -- multiple school Roy Williams of the of like the redheaded stepchild. They'll have to triple in the when they do they will have plenty of other. Of other -- to choose from bad Watson Donte' Stallworth Wes Welker Jabar Gaffney Kevin folksonomy wars it will sought to play in the outweighs the -- them it will -- like on the that's a funny line anytime that Roy Williams is anywhere near any laws that's going to be at the end of patriots in my opinion. So I don't know what to do with him Venus Williams I -- that's going to -- to be the most intriguing part of the -- you know the patriots -- now with a wide -- the -- and how the complainants that. So I want to see what they do with Williams -- the patriots exploit that that'll be the though -- because that is you know how the cowboys than against the run so good. David David really audience the runs and no enjoyment running on the adult growing yet. I think I would say they're they're that the 85 bears but they've been pretty pretty solid against the run. I visas if I would -- how bill just you'll attacked the weakness yeah so I would assume that he's just going to throw one person might aware of down. -- with the running game. -- okay this is Karen. He says I love your show I heard Indian -- discussing the Steelers yesterday. If he thought they were really good all the big that they were that good at all I heard Merrill Hodge of the Pittsburgh homer on ESPN's -- watch out for Pittsburgh because they are. One of the only teams they had the defense they gave the Brady demanding. He felt the Steelers would really be able to rattle these quarterbacks cause problems what do you think Pittsburgh's defense that good Peter King keeps harping on the patriots rule violation about taping he had this column. That the a 130 million people who will watch the patriots win three Super -- have a right at all they cheated super balls in need to know what is on the tapes that were destroyed. Don't we already know is on these tapes if -- bunch of coaches waving their hands and arms why is Peter going on and on about this old how good is the Steelers beat them what's going now Peter."

[1:01:10]" We'll go to Pittsburgh first. How good I mean I don't. I mean I am only talk audience today I don't remember Sam and I think Pittsburgh was very good I just idle at the team that was ripping was Baltimore. And because -- you hate Baltimore I think based bank and you -- thinking you were saying that because of where they played Pittsburgh. And span of and is not a team and I think stinks that eagles the eagles via brave and honest you know what three wins at the time when spoilers and and and they have a three game stretch in in Indies -- not a bad premise is that the third game coming up those three is going to be. Well made a little bit more difficult or as I was saying I just don't think that ball was any if any other opponent to be coming off of not necessarily saying that but Pittsburgh stop hating Pittsburgh is his solid team and right now. I think they're a solid number three in the AFC by and the pats colts -- I think. Now I don't know I -- I think -- have -- look -- balance on both -- the -- and they -- I think Roethlisberger -- not -- he -- we -- were -- rule -- a little -- I think they can -- a lot of different things and that's that needs to be part of the blueprint to beat the patriots need to be able to do a bunch different that I totally agree with that I think that's that's right right on point. And then with Roethlisberger I think that people sometimes confused on the call him overrated. I don't think he's a guy that can consistently throw the ball 40 plus -- 3545 times. And not make mistakes. He's better when he's more on the 25 to 30 range. That doesn't mean he's not very good Brady has proven he can do it anyway okay that's why he's great Roethlisberger not rate he's very good. But in Iraq the bird couldn't. While I think -- did it more off whenever he has he generally -- made -- stay well whenever he has it's been like few and that's how they want to do there so it's I 90 and I got I was stand of doing it for a season I think you'd see him have some success that's part of it so they don't want to play in Miami right. Once -- has -- well -- what he has -- also -- that -- what he's -- apparently not what I -- worry -- Pittsburgh against the -- to agree with -- no -- get a -- one -- can -- But they have I had both with the second reference myself and a terrible second and I think -- can throw all over Pittsburgh. But that's the -- every -- the Pittsburgh is cause trouble for the patriots in the past with Brady it's been because they've gotten and -- face. -- you go apparently never had a very good secondary have now and you expect that if I don't OT jets got a -- for them right -- Scott they charge Scott hank get beat. -- those that we can squeeze those references the other thing with Peter King by the way you know what we've talked about this ad nauseam in the show. But no we don't know was on those -- in the NFL isn't telling anybody what's on the -- there's plenty of rumors out there -- better on the record rumors of taping of practices around and revolving around superbowl and that's why. Peter king and others nationally. Aren't satisfied and that's what can happen to -- he's not -- he's he's a patriot bill -- I need to say he's been a big time -- help -- long time which we talked about -- washing as the -- now the -- we -- misread -- or go without all -- as a -- that -- Washington's more appropriate -- we think we -- we can -- pitches but when I'm sure -- can think -- that the Izturis just say notion of while."

[1:04:55]" Well no I computers I don't like it's tejada -- share -- as a as a another email well you can debate it -- blew it something he's a lot oops I meant face bill is hotter than it is now but I'll give you all Walsh gives you the top five who are. Fives in the law -- some record Jessica parker three Oprah 2 Hillary Yukio pool -- eight straight -- I don't want Rosie O'Donnell -- GW pretend -- by the way it catches the picture of one is hotter than Giselle who has that. It looked like evil or but it no way -- maybe not with knows. It's non English and only the TV's behind you watching the Spanish channel. That says I'm -- in the -- I'm an orderly Meyer as teams seek it. He get --"

[1:05:51]" Metallica the size of African order -- that I was that it Tuesday show please help but he shot up. I thought I become the cowboys thing is killing spread as you know the second ours was -- picks. Is he hasn't been here the second half like two weeks has. I hit last week -- always -- in his words Eric that not so great who cares -- But this picture of where the bullet and -- Jason do you think the patriots -- qualifiers would have no huddle offense but they did versus San Diego this year. Well I think it did last week to that be interesting because of the the as bill calls that I believe he's told me was an aberration statistical aberration in the fact that they've only scored. How many points six points -- nine points or something ridiculously low in the first quarter for the cowboys in the blow out the rest anyway started its low although I wondered. If you if you come out you try to get up 1014 points in and get a little cushion that is one of the problems that we should private little bit as the cowboys have been slow starting team and that's not good against the patriots bill bill thinks it's an aberration I asked about -- Apart said he thinks they're good in by the end of the year that'll even itself out all their quarters a lot of things here right now. I agree on to tell him that tomorrow when you're asking you five questions. Five questions taco salad I I don't ask questions -- anybody ask questions they make funny you went around here exactly you got to the bottom of it we make fun yeah. Unbelievable LL a couple of things. You know I I've all the rear as the couple things I wanted to -- like you know once. And you'll do it again tomorrow -- pretty much out of it are you'll be final will be nobody there upbeat and don't. Just and Paul's getting the okay set ray tells -- thought Connecticut's ray from Springfield. I have a question concerning the regulation time keeping methods on Monday -- went for the onside kick. What no one has mentioned is at the time clock did not start on the plate -- 20 seconds left on the clock the officials on the field. Only took two seconds off the clock on the plate that I kind during NFL replay. What is the time to both the restart when the ball is kicked or with the first contact with a player for -- contact -- yeah if it's the first contact. It was a total of four seconds -- contact the whistle six from what was it. So that the officiating crew -- as nice -- that is absolutely week's game with the patriots more of a draw there's absolutely no."

[1:08:18]" Waited six seconds and a first -- when the first contact is made it is actually no way it is great that not possession. First contact with a player. On -- yet received but there's no way that six seconds one off between kick in when Apple was recovered it was a kick that went ten yards one big bounce the guy hit it. And then it went another ten yards and a guy dole won it that's not is no way that was six seconds the climbing is sort of a guy recovers at bats hit the plays over. -- six with a paid they -- of the game to and so that I have the upset to slip back clock run run run."

[1:08:54]" On the once those four Paul PJ Tucker LEA guys that just my -- PJ I just while they're all may have on now is that he has. Very -- indecent yesterday I don't hate Paul that you should I just strongly I linked him with -- just playing Paul don't forget that I was one of the only email -- that wrote it after your -- of noticing that you -- a good job it was a pretty good show you were -- partner dropped. If Joe -- pale Irish -- I have completely nuts into I do like would you bring to the show. Not to say that you don't annoy me. -- show what it's all good fun about the game this week do you think Dallas can be making this it is too big of a game. It is only weeks yes and at least he always treating it like the Super Bowl hero on his locker that he is that talking because the men -- game. It won't affect them this week but I don't care what the line is I love the vikings to upset the cowboys."

[1:09:47]" When you say yes -- you mean to big league game for this week or moving forward. I think they're putting too much stock into -- game I agree -- for this game like this effort everybody critics they heard of moving always going to also talking yes I that it totally open and -- the sky's -- I just the game I think either way even if they went I think -- put too much stock in a moving forward but I just think that it's a regular season game. -- non conference regular season game at that. These before least important games of -- one of the four at least important games of people and it put way too much stock in. If he's as bad as I wasn't being a big threat trying to build -- Paul -- just a lot of respect outlaw you're bill Walsh him. -- course. If you're not the only 1 HI am sure there's a lot of us out there besides Andy you know it's true Wellesley. God only knows all."

[1:10:39]" that the six. Started four a two points along that just -- it would it would go. Vegas wind yes so obviously everybody's taken Patrick. Well today any money anyway so -- like it college Mississippi State and Tennessee Tennessee seven. In 86% of the people around Tennessee. In the line hasn't changed that means that they want you to that Tennessee who's changing lines softly in Tennessee. They obviously trying to up the outline as you know they don't want to kill it kill on the patriots basically. In order that they don't want to -- them anymore and he killed again -- basic -- the patriots. Agree right he's one of the 14 printed media. Paul how many of these toward the end of the buffalo 80s they use started seeing -- losing you know little after the fifth interception. Considering his relationship with previous quarter that. What happens if Ramon TO struggle on the big stage this weekend your thoughts he also won the crowds were pretty good bad right. -- under the radar remember when I read that quote that. When somebody asked him about quarterbacks in this now he includes Donovan McNabb and -- quarterback he'd like to have a mean. He always is outs is not -- to east. Bipolar somethin' I don't know what it all is all that medication now overdosed on ADB -- of Brazil and he's taken legal medications I'm sure some other illegal drugs in different things in. As a lot going on that and we have grown that time like overall Donovan McNabb that it started well we almost getting there. And he had no problems -- hurting I'm on a hitter and in his city. Our it would that was -- ethnic dance team and -- so he's going to have no trouble you know turn on the Pope in the Vatican young has no care. You know local references to the shows his big thing out somebody who's never really read the Bible I don't know much about it but notes fiction picked hectic so Israel sack coming in -- Catholics or I don't know wrote it they just made it out. That's fiction I agree the fiction back. There's two things I think that are fiction that's one another thing all the planes that whole platoon your for. Will be -- action pictures of the -- out shut down richer people know we're talking. Out of the -- figure out -- But do we get to the picks speaking of the picks finally got to take a break before yet right waters comes then to make his -- cubs spotters -- take a break you get the olympics."

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[1:17:35]" Week for all involved last little red let's see. Which means they're keeping care about this with the overall at a good and everybody everybody had a good week last week Fred and I -- the top spot at 11 and three Andy Tom an -- ten in force obviously if games are easy last week with the spread."

[1:17:53]" Let's see it wise to comedy and 6 Paul Pollock seven and seven Andy Eric -- Friday at five enough. -- to the top I'll tell what what do you have to by Tom crackle and pop bio that he has that mathematics or another want to -- dumb -- now he has to buy me dinner oh. That's set you beat me I'll buy you -- at any place you want it now yes it wasn't anyplace you -- the place for him right no I said you pick the place it was -- that presses. And I that particular is that correct like right now. And I said if I would just be something abnormal -- out okay that the -- I don't remember that portion of -- but I don't convenient I'd like 30 dollars available anyway I hope you win Fred as a Ruth's Chris is great when it's official it's what you take her with chris'. Well today I interest for the season Tom and Fred on overall winners 1526. -- who doesn't care and and to me an accident 4020. And an Indian 4430 to do him well it's expected -- picking up right side with dad with the number Tom is running away 3735 and four he's all right well Eric who will know has an asterisk next to him 3636 and four. Fred next it's 30 to 40 in four and an unionized 3042 and tied it in the spread -- As as I would ask us a couple of stats so I don't just pick them the obvious. I anyway that's that's an idea that's the standings after five weeks are right so let's get a two week six of the NFL season appalled what's the one you know he's totally I'm prepared. Cincinnati's Eric rated his checklist of their roster he's going to cost them out as they -- Cincinnati is at a New York City you should try it. I shouldn't be is -- you -- are so note of the order. Illinois you'll -- mad if he's cool -- you are not a schools that are. -- there right I love -- She rubber bands that they when you to argue with mr. Richard -- that -- I did so I haven't. Purse and -- First Lady got it up that we can stay with the Cincinnati at Kansas City. Since when Damon -- will play. Cincinnati by 27 and a half he still I'm -- they'll take Cincinnati angles on the road favored by the I'll take Cincinnati to win this is the game where they beat up on the -- I don't care where it is. That arrowhead thing when you when yours that is I think the chiefs I'd screw them. Top -- At two sheets of paper Mark -- enough to me that was the only two guys still pick it achieves that they play at -- held out on the wrong side. I'll switch that so that they eagles even though well Peters yeah -- that the boat lucky. The sarge also known as the United States government. Ortiz and no one like any pizza too we got cubs we got ugly episode is. Had never happened at that we Rivera do you have results come fifth avenue progress fat and happy as usual today Eric Staal Urbina I know what the mangled both ways and when that -- NC Brodie -- the -- last week you have I mean as a starter okay. For about a week when they realize he's the worst quarterback in the history of the world that nets that aren't in Damon Huard demon deep deep in the Buick is twice the man ten times the quarterback Brodie Croyle I agree that 80s not a good enough quarterback to play in the NFL and -- but I do agree that Brodie -- couldn't play at northeastern. Now -- documents anyway I will take the singles doubles as well the problem -- you know Artrell Hawkins with Cincinnati. Got arrested -- why that's correct -- but he gas station the other part of it is is that Carson Palmer. So I'm picking Kansas City with the -- In the -- Kansas City."

[1:22:01]" I mean it's. I don't know -- compose myself after I thought I thought I the next game is Houston travels to Jacksonville which should -- up as a pretty good AFC sell battle Jacksonville by six and a half mean the with the average after deep -- into the night I was at chapter I mean at a chat house went to college to an average of that story book he'll figure -- and -- can cut at the unit and average and Houston. I don't feel great about but I hate the jaguars. Been off them for years now when I was a cat like on the cat teams off them RRI know -- had he threw for like it was written an as yet it's an interception as any had. -- pretty big numbers for him last week to would change I think he stinks it's. I think the Houston Texans bounced back with a big win here an emphatic AFC win because I still think the -- one of those middling AFC teams. They have the good defensive line play some physical football can run the ball that crap. But that said Houston wins and Andre Davis continues to shine. You know I -- that was funny Gary Kubiak said you know he's going to start the rest of the way he's just a guy in the you know opportunity -- really want to jump on my hundred it has been way but. Couple weeks and are always make them play for them that continues. Tom charities to remember about it Houston at critical lot for ten minutes like -- number ten -- at six and a -- a how would -- why you witness about them organized into our. How would it take X built to win it used in the -- Act two and a half -- awed by the way Tom knew it it's on all right oh Indy lights from last week when he picked. One team to win it will on an -- could not put up with the other team if other people to -- last week. Later admitted that he screwed up on the area just want to admit. Eric I like Jacksonville the win I think Houston make it close though Houston is coming around good team but I think would be agreed to -- have to win on the road improvement -- so. A technical about it. Yeah and with me and it's a tax with a win but six and a half little bit too much tight division battle I'm impressed with Houston on Japan Mark -- movement moving a line evidently Fred wants move this along a little bit here we only have someplace debate we only have 36 minutes into the the last ten games here so -- Anyway Miami. Travels to Cleveland based via evidently now tough I think that's always wanted to you know as the Cleveland tough team. That's tough Cleveland Browns -- my morning"

[1:24:42]" I am going to take the browns to win and cover it enough but I saw they don't turn the ball over they complain. I think that the dolphins think. And that's enough for me even though Ronnie brown having a very good year -- stated Romeo is the -- will take away Ronnie brown he argued in. -- targeted Randy moss some say Romeo gets a win this week stays at 500 -- careers future -- in Cleveland. Yeah I would be surprised if Miami is their first wins the end of it Cleo Lemon it's politically it'd be better than Trent green while we 11. I'll saw take the browns to win it and dolphins to cover. Like that -- like that thinking -- with the browns and now maybe cover I actually I think real lemons pretty decent quarterback I know nothing about Cleo Lemon I'm also. Ben Roethlisberger stinks and I really wasn't a very good quarterback. That's correct. He's got to give them credit very Andy hot like he's just gonna go around the share profits -- yeah are. That's true I once that I'd rather have both been involved early on -- Ohio -- and and some don't running back LAM and Tom Brady Kevin Faulk or something like that. And was up until now that was the dumbest things that on this program I liked the guy like Cleveland to get back to 500 and I'm rooting for that because I'd like to see Romeo stick around -- was best of them last week but I'll take Miami -- Cover one -- that was by field."

[1:26:11]" The question is does Cleveland take you know -- decent performance against the league's best team. And it worked on that with that it and now they have a set that they political science and typically the cowboys. So you know I. I was about to pick Miami but I think it was occurs in my sarcastic I just don't think I think that. Romeo will keep them energized he won't let them but that Cleveland both ways. Romeo needs -- now Romeo must went minister of great have -- it in Minnesota Minnesota against Chicago."

[1:26:55]" And bears back anti bears by five and a half -- you know as that flow went somewhere -- game action packed. I think the bears. At home picked -- that Minnesota has one thing working against them this week. I think my -- gonna start again and Tarvaris Jackson back in the lineup against that defense that can only -- turn over city. Even if it's banged up there's guys like Urlacher Briggs on the field I don't want my voice chances off that there's. Yeah I'll take the bears to win but I see this being ugly defensive battle. -- that it it keeps Minnesota in the game so that'll goal five minute after the Vietnam but I'll take the points. I'll take the bears both ways being at home I don't think mister Zachary. So we'll go here's what I'm going to do because Sally special here I'll take the other points but I like the bears to win again. There's I mean the vikings it's still good against the run. Yes they've always been pretty good again that's why I'm going to take the points it's an offensive lineman who would you."

[1:27:55]" There's not running well but you really don't want to analyzing games if you see the guys -- well. They finally admitted that Benson and Thomas just didn't get along and that's why they had to trade him. It wasn't money wasn't anything else that was they just didn't get along and the one guy had to go sounds like they took the -- at the graphics sounds like they kept the bad guys too well they did based on what it's not probably based on because of they had drafted him and you feel like you're tied to him and -- you have do. We'll take him in their own decision. I agree Philadelphia on the next game the eagles travel to the meadowlands faced you reeling jets the -- outside Philadelphia road favorite here by three. It's time to pull the plug on Chad Pennington I think it was time a few weeks ago probably. I heard it described well if you're veteran quarterback is making mistakes like the rookie quarterback and put the rookie quarterback and let him learn. And I think that's a pretty good description brand said that sorry for stealing it but I just a point yeah I think it's -- point now with the jets of become ridiculously easy defend because it just have no matter where gras again once he thinks he can't throw the ball on his fault. But a quarterback booed at the -- you know he's very good at what he does but it's limited. Maybe in an arena league we don't throw that far he'd be good make some decisions with the ball whatever but not anymore so -- it is time to change and they lose this game the eagles -- not -- that again Westbrook my boy him and his team back put -- big points. Role eagles. Yeah like the eagles basically which he says about them vote -- but it allows eagles pressure on pinning him. I don't think he finishes the game I think Clemens goes oh equals bringing Kellen Clemens but it's not going to be good enough eagles. Now take the eagles to I mean with with Chad Pennington you he'll look at these games he's going 32 for. 393 picks and it's another he still able to do what he does well. At a very high level but you you can't what you need to win it win that way anymore I mean just can't. And you accessed July once and a recent right in the east they got to make the -- you were sold on this guy for that your entire future that's why you drafted Clemens and and in total command -- needs to do it now because you need to find out if Clemens is the guy or if you need to look and about Nazis."

[1:30:08]" Well thought coming back to roots for Eric Mangini for what he did what -- do another loss and you know when he goes both ways in doing and like what he did you know not an angel in arguing about it. Word on the street is Mike -- did it everybody who matters notes that. Well including bill balance but he was he needed to it by Jeannie now now that's well that's not according to stories -- have -- out. Recent word on the street is people in this building who no matter you know this atom bomb was the one responsible. Yes and -- this but I have a horse -- talk about that I know that. Think you're the evidently the hiring of the ironic that I thought that was. And it is no it doesn't end and that's true the higher even before Mangini went to the jets has always been directed him he's that your. -- evidently it's okay to say that's why do you say that your values arm in the press box you know he's another -- in there the last and the jets beat the patriots will open it up."

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[1:31:28]" Sorry reds back in victory pick this cowboys data might say Eddie Lewis will probably get -- out. Saint Louis travels the Baltimore this is again the could have some special interest to me Tom adjusted your opinions on this saint Louis is going to pick the team you hate as you're not getting mad and a half I'm thinking about it."

[1:31:48]" I'm going to take the team you hate to win this game what is the point nine and a half nine and a half saint Louis where. I'm tell Baltimore finally Baltimore can beat anybody by nine and a half an outcast in the rams are. I'll take the ball more to win the Baltimore like that would say and the rams with a point went opposite of much use of them. Ball the world community lately that's why he took the points to the point oh okay. I'll outs I didn't pick my game just of that mess up once oh because he still breaking back and he used to Jackson. Yeah the ravens are terrible the favorite the rams earth just. Awful just awful so middle of the reasons both ways on the Internet implants I was asked that question I was -- impressed. Oracle by that 97 win over there and sisco last week so long ago ravens to win. Programs that cover. He did your quote should serve but he knows on the radio."

[1:32:49]" Now that he's loaded up that rifle right now I'm not speaking in you very that it that that shotgun in his mind is being loaded. -- number one on the list the jacket on -- you know so I am kinda I'm runnin' -- today -- if -- can -- an extra week. I'm going to take the rams to cover as well -- Baltimore to win what do you think of a -- Thomas. Yet so I think the races that we did."

[1:33:17]" And I think it -- immediately say how that where. I just that I think the rams are probably in most probable that he -- problem about a one because I really don't want table this is I mean. You have Baltimore wins but right -- points and makes grants the cover."

[1:33:38]" That's Jerusalem in sight of Tennessee and the travel to Tampa Bay where I think this is the led by -- block of the week Tampa Bay by three acts as a red flag game to me Tom. A -- want to tell me why shouldn't all morals Tennessee picking Tennessee this is a red flag in revenue if ever there was one. Zack Crockett -- 15 years ago decided that mean in in in -- the spread doesn't make any sense of means that everybody's betting Tennessee in Vegas doesn't care. I'm betting tennessean he is I don't lie at least they know something that you don't. They don't know anything I don't Tennessee wins this game easily"

[1:34:17]" I think this is a very club going to be a very close and I wanna take tennis seekers are my team but. I would be surprised at all Tampa Bay in the women's game."

[1:34:28]" I'm going to go I'm going to go the titans both ways obviously. Just think Vince young is different another big game and we're talking -- perform good teams winning on the road. If there really such a good team -- gonna win. On the road so I don't -- he it is Heisman right that was the latest really I -- I don't think I haven't actually Reggie Bush and -- crap now he'll be happy get a -- according to Yahoo! exclamation sports."

[1:34:56]" Well -- just to paint a picture of -- just staring at -- right now with."

[1:35:01]" Dumbfounded look on their face when I volatile the red flag trap on that in Tennessee I don't think Tampa -- a very good team. I can't take it to Tampa day. And the cover they're going to win big we use him that they right next you have anything to add. And all you're the only one you -- we all eyes yeah we all picked the other way can you tell us why. I think gruden -- them motivated -- to play I think you know I think they're playing in the heat a way to get it actually plays it well rethink this don't play he's decided that last week off of playing well. But the Bruins got a -- I think I think they'll be right. Okay at a season due for a let down. And a bye this week. Everybody loves them now they didn't have a violence of they'll knock out west Tennessee makes it real all Atlanta -- artist. Anyway Washington is at Green Bay for the next game and hopefully in you can give us a little bit more insight into this one Redskins -- I'm sorry Green -- by this is now at present he over the yes green -- in my three."

[1:36:23]" I know you seem so emotional about it in my oil verse that I am going to take this wrong with fuels. That's this love of Green Bay. Player yeah holding up. I don't care if they are 41 and they should be five -- that the that the that didn't go pat go just for thread I was on the fence taking Green -- just because Fred thinks that such a dump him good -- Packers go for me because of who wins it's the right spread the home team into evenly matched teams -- threats against a much better this year. Yeah obviously all the Redskins it every week your team that's okay I'm in hasn't seen a downer it's mental qualities that the fences back -- Williams -- I think equally miserable for our turnovers yeah I can't believe. Are -- as well as he's played so far this year I think it's going to. I think last week you saw the beginning of the downward spiral against Olympic historians."

[1:37:19]" Yeah I think this is a very evenly matched game letting go either way I'm going to take Green Bay at home by -- definitely not going to be surprised if Washington once we put you down because I know you're kind of by the right. You're offended by the fact that the home team and hit it -- special teams face each other with my lawn seats on team by three you somehow offended. Carolina I. Carolina is at Arizona. Where and with Vinny Testaverde could possibly be in this game that you can -- by the way. Vinny Testaverde eight years he's appeared in more games in his career. And the Carolina Panthers have played in existence -- I liked the -- about 50 he was the first overall pick eight years before the Carolina Panthers this and the French also the first time ever that two overall number one -- on the same team."

[1:38:13]" We're able stake. Peppers in the car -- I -- go through to East Africa to take -- was that he. Yeah probably you know its possible that it was quarterbacks before -- was a spread I'm sorry Arizona by four. Arizona at home by four Kurt Warner. Closes interest in the two teams that wanted to verplank. For Vinny Testaverde I will go win the home team the Arizona Cardinals. Early on boost I think that we gonna get from Kurt Warner some good play and then some really bad play in the realized why he was a back up again. How many they win this one I hate the panthers a pick and go to the superbowl I don't know and plus David Carr stakes ball mean in. I hate the panthers to because they're maddening -- in the least this time. They have -- Evan what they would have gone a Super Bowl whether you -- right you know what I did this week I took a look at it team Arizona the cover. Yet sure because those sprint for for sure because like we all say you know what is this talented teams -- looked at them. They have Steve Smith Julius Peppers. Couple that I think we got the Williams -- they have nobody gave the offensive -- all right out of -- to have a good defense -- right -- physical -- the last -- in the -- stop the run Chris Jenkins though it does -- bitch about his team I think the big thing is not the defensive lineman -- linebacker -- Dan Morgan I think that's -- yet and -- reply right -- they have lost -- heart they have no other receiver on the news -- they have -- note I didn't throw the ball to. So when you look at it on offense or really all that scary if he takes mentally pretty much now. And you know I would be surprised that they up upsetting terrorism because though yours as a good favors a very good spot for well. Just the fact that Testaverde could be in the game chief medical -- secrets -- he's trying to come back now all the bills quarterback he's -- the current priority to. He's at 367 you know like -- get out of his contract with -- peonies comin' back again -- contract they as the began the I think they expect that at the -- request came from the network it. I've been they got I had -- offseason and even without -- in the -- and a I'm going to keep write them until wait until --"

[1:40:34]" Ultimately prove me wrong but -- go to them. Cover both and I take Arizona to I just think the quarterback situation capitalized no reason I think otherwise the spread would be three of four points different than it is you can't win with a Chris -- More yeah car however but he's not gonna he's going to he's hurt he's still her about the -- Very questionable evidence. So I think that that's you know although and -- three and two with with all you know with Jake -- missing half the games and -- in the NFC I just I don't think -- that bad I just think that. You know at some point you suffer from not having your quarterback game you can see it in them like they're going to be -- a take terrorism and I think Arizona to. I'm just glad that don't that are now I have an excuse for why. My Super -- but it -- make by even yet even though you don't really believe you can always use right on all questions like my align myself with the boats take the cheap way out any time anyway Oakland travels to San Diego and I think this is charges game of the season -- Charges by nine and a half and bounce back last week. It bounced back last week -- pound on the Denver Broncos in invesco. And 40 wants needs some off 41 -- three okay. They need to do something so I am not the went 40 wanted to they need to win convincingly and then. Get a -- you know get that should get the road to back to respectability because they still I think going to win that division but this depression when he division at a nate which could happen. And you know getting you -- season back together going 115 something in that neighborhood. What do you think in what they do which direction today."

[1:42:15]" That's once again. Powder blue route. Chargers role. Under the collar -- so they won one game all's well I don't care local. Creatures in I learned all I need to know about Daunte Culpepper you know -- celebrate that thing. -- line okay symbol when I heard that one time to get tackled for like no yards Keith Traylor caught from behind all I need to know about Daunte Culpepper athletic comeback it is okay -- They killed by the chargers here Shawne Merriman. You know one guy who creates fumbles you get the guy who fumbles more than anybody in league history that ball on the ground so much David Craig came back. A couple of ways of Coca pearl get that record this week out -- it -- it is vehicle's title that. Raiders have been blown out yet this year -- think of the just like their coach I think we'll see in the coming weeks is there more problems in Denver and others fix -- all agree with the decision. But I would take the points here -- the rule equally San Diego to win but yet points. -- as an emblem out yet this year that I think not so fast okay they well after this weekend -- and it is going to roll them I'm going to take charges to bats interest and that's why I brought that up -- because obviously. I think -- I think -- the vote actors back to deal and you don't I think that's that's the two ways -- can go. I'm going to takes and it winning. -- by bill as well atoms -- Diego when he said wade Phillips what his timing eaten -- coaches India there yet. I mean I -- weeks I don't know back Alley since. We agents if somebody -- town but. But now just as an example I'll I'd like to see -- with it five I think that's going to committed to which he's going to and they're going to bring somebody in the run which about Pete Carroll pat Terrell went. But today by Adams after that Moses would that teams go currently. It's not going to be great you know those words that's their job Pete Carroll -- ackerley. He couldn't go your column on the phone we -- that -- the other day that he was a guy called in the pick in the Bucs drafted -- about the fact -- we're obviously like out of your innocence about the fact that USC with a better roster -- Buffalo Bills lost three of its last sport pac ten games. And believe. And believe why is that. -- know coach. Just shows how much better they out -- everybody else and it went all those games you don't think that the coach in the college. Even even in the college what the cost of anyway what electronic -- some off field are. When immigrant parents can it would it would what you want when you gotta use I want Oakland San Diego I don't think the guard Monica. Iron and it go to -- No wallets travel to Seattle and he six and a half but the Seahawks. Seahawks -- New Orleans stink. Armed outtakes Seattle to win and cover even though a little worried Deion Branch of the and there are. And a sums up right without offense book I think Seahawks defense to get it done -- is an ugly game but the saints haven't shown anything this year out of the Seahawks."

[1:45:41]" I'd take Seattle women I'm going to take the points even I don't feel real good about it I just think that that Deion Branch injuries big and that's the key player in their offense and he's out and I think the -- keeps close yeah legal -- won't cover and that gave them. I was I know it's not for the same reasons but it's tough you know when -- office changes -- a guy who's not durable. Like I said I know what's going to hear the same reasons I delete it shattered and"

[1:46:15]" giants at Atlanta. And these giants are -- favorite -- union economics three and a half."

[1:46:22]" And that's not enough to scare me away but that the giants to win in Atlanta. They're just going to celebrate this week that they gonna get 20 million bucks back in -- way about football games but -- sinking ship in Petrino. Bye -- called when you find new job college. I agree that the treat els not going to be here along -- who's going to be -- play I think Atlanta had a lot of chances to win last week against Tennessee stick with carry it for now. As long as he's at an average the giants of one of those up and down teams to me I feel like this is a week we see -- down part so. I'll go. Falcons reluctantly I think you might be right time that this market downward for the giants but I also think that even with Harrington -- this. Falcons are awful -- I think the giants both ways. And I take the giants to I've actually thought that you know with the exception of last week I thought that parents and his in peace. And hasn't really been -- problem now he came out last week as he was terrible and left which was worse he came in the fourth quarter went two for eight fumble interception. So they have they have problems there with the quarterback position obviously never back when when they had a and the sideline they couldn't find a way to get it out game because they had -- quarterback are ironic isn't it. Ironic isn't it now let me ask you this Fred I'm going to take the giants both ways and -- before you get -- Do you think what do you think of the situation getting the bonus money back. How do you feel about that is -- a bad precedent to set to you. Wonder about that going for -- argued that these -- I think just."

[1:47:51]" Well taken by case by case this problem is again the president. The problem is trying to get roster bonus money rate is that I was signing bonus look at signing bonus that should get it back because that. What they should let him keep -- what he's -- so far but everything in the future that was pro rated. He should have to give that. He should never again. That it -- also he should have to give it back in other words like why it's -- the six year contract he's been but three years. Happen that. You have to by the winner -- America's this the and on Diana stories and look I'm I'm not argue with you I'm just I'm you know eating habits though because of I'll ask it amassed and we thoughts Odyssey that -- thoughts but. Do you think there's an argument devil's advocate of the size and it's not about you don't get a signing bonus for the fulfillment of your contract -- signing bonus to sign. I tell you signed was nothing I mean if you sign the contract that should entitle you to step but I think I would say by doing what he did with the reached a contract it let's just -- you -- I really -- of -- I I agree it is but just the breach of contract and negate your ability to get something new party received I think so. I think you've reached the contract and also what what's the difference between getting back while watching it to give back salary. Because he played on the field like I said it's not all the signing bonus I know but it's just that the let's face it sound. Signing -- is only done that way for bookkeeper for -- as it out as I practiced with -- he's paid outlets they have a contractor to work at your house and I've done a certain amount of work. But that at some point I reached that contract. Most likely court locals say. You're only -- on your lap to get out of that contract that now goes someplace else. Right but I think the signing bonus is and paid for six years. Signing bonus paid for sign. Hi you've done I understand but that's my I think that it's just a bookkeeping thing about how much they -- to put it on salad for the salary cap purposes it's not about they had to pay. It's not like -- they only had to pay him three well three million a year as if it went in there that you know violations of character know forfeit signing bonus but did forfeits the contract. Right so why that's what I'm saying why is the signing bonus the only part of the -- didn't get I don't know and I cannot look I think he deserves to lose the money I think -- he's item -- it himself on just bringing -- I don't definitely they're going to have to figure this out and it's gonna it's gonna get appealed in evidently the guy who's hearing the appeal is a very pro and it felt PA guy -- Dario wanted. Yeah yet and already worried that he's going to end up getting it back -- Cody but I would just you know. There has been cases pride in this where guys have done stuff in the that the -- while ago like Barry Sanders had to do retire him -- when he retired and I think. It Ricky Williams loose on the signing bonus money. That he did but I don't think I think the he was supposed to have and they work out what he meant look at. Defeated come back right what applause hello he lost doing rule he never he came back so he. You know so I don't -- that's when he retired right right he would -- lost. I'm anyway I just thought that was giants and Atlanta. Drives in Atlanta your purity picked. -- go with the giants."

[1:51:13]" I that wraps it up -- bounce of the patriots patriots. I don't know how it us along but that's why I was bring an opinion without it and in our discussions like signing bonus a -- New England Patriots to that we know. Patriots are we at a Dallas -- at Dallas. Dallas there about five --"

[1:51:31]" I'm feeling a little strong so I think it's -- as the week goes along. I thought initially this might be 45 point tight game now I think it ends up -- ten point tight maybe more. I think the patriots editors the better well rounded team that are coached team. And my little -- thing when bill said that we've built does what he does and he's been doing on time a lot of success and with unpredictable whatever in I think when you see predictable you lick your chops and swallow -- whole he's about to do that. There was no Tuesday's US Marcus spears -- happen between the ball over will be the finals were honorable pursuit that is the way. He's at 75 I -- he's right I don't think it's going to be 75 not that it the cowboys had a 25% chance to win this game I'd take. Just like it's it took note that he might want to only trip that dials -- in the old stadium. I just -- I've really thought about this cable I've looked at it you know objectively. It they would have to play the perfect game in the patriots would have to play about 5060% -- just. -- for you know why it's CN NFC technical -- and then now that different beast in the AFC. Too much patriots offense too much old football. Patriots have just --"

[1:52:52]" They can win when there on their game and when they're not on their game and the cowboys just barely did that last week. I don't think this is close I'm not going to go against them patriots all the way."

[1:53:03]" I think that I'm going to take the patriots both sides but I do think it's going to be competitive game and I think the cowboys also shown they can win when -- game. And if the patriots aren't on their game I think Dallas wins I think it patriots need for the first time this year they'll need to play. -- at a close to their capabilities to win the game I think -- do what I think these games commonplace for knowing when and we talked about it in the first dollar the show. I think Dallas has put way too much stock into this game I think -- it way too important system. And non conference regular season game in Dallas is using as their ultimate barometer. And I think liking Eddie made the point. I think if there's if they lose it really be a bad situation because I think they could. Pavel hang -- effect that affects them for the rest of the month and I think that's not what you're looking for in Tom's big point. Wade Phillips is thoroughly overmatched."

[1:53:52]" Well I gotta stick with the cowboys you guys you'll -- my -- hopeful go with the cowboys are an important that you are they with the cowboys if you don't believe. Why I I think the pitch when but it is up. And he'd he'd say that you really LL be this guy who was argument for Mossad these are TO I used to wonder what Brian Morrie guy at a at this point I don't think it be fair I think the patriots team at least I would into the NC -- I changed my -- he really thought east arms at what point but now I'm here all the stuff about exactly what Paul said about. How to I don't teams and Bob up locked in from the public's -- for the patriots side. I -- is that true but this is a big game. But the patriots have too much experience playing the games they know how to treat it not like the big game it still get up. Cowboys are all about this that the game it's just too much and you know that the cowboys come out in the -- to couple you know mistakes early. The momentum will that we would but if the pitchers get through that -- cooler so. -- quotes of contrast ones by Ellis Hobbs. One hop and it's hot -- and it and if ever there was to be brad you know brash and boastful -- he says. Let's not make this into something that it's not it's just a regular season winning this game want to 16 eagle on from here you know and and the cowboys are. Openly talking about it you know 25 you know teams have big game you know we want you know but the fact that he does not talking means he thinks it's too."

[1:55:24]" I would tell you -- the cowboys win this game. You can't get enough money to bet against the week after as they will be sold off if they win this game Atlanta I don't know what was. What's at stake is but he paid enough so you've been retired. Hawaii in the over I've taken why you -- the it won the quick little note from practice -- you want for India the team was addressed today by former coach chuck Fairbanks special -- banks the best coach in the history of the organization you don't hear it was very he was with mister Kraft and Tom you're sick. There were there or Antonio if you play out. -- like this the gridiron club dinner tonight and but she you know after after stretching sushi the teams sort of gathered it and midfield and big circle and and Fairbanks animal craft mr. -- brought their ranks into the middle of that and -- there -- and -- everything I don't. So got a little little motivational speech it Drew little little laughter and applause at the end there they -- their four. Probably not actually -- words afterwards the bill bill -- well yes because they'll openly admits that he stole his defense a lot of outs a lot of the defense -- after after that little gathering bill and and chuck and Robert sort of gathered together along with an out -- often and they were attending an effort for good 510."

[1:56:48]" It's you know the patriots history still alive -- let's stay. Gutsy and by the way they rate grid iron great rate grid iron great game game of the greats -- The game with a great is this Sunday but I hear it's sold out of course it's great. A lucky so next year lucky illness the next it was it is actually get tickets. -- the that I think it's going to be the annual. New England patriot alumni club -- for good cause right. It by the would get that popped one sided on them and notes on. -- at times of the coaches that started at a radio show a lot of coaches in the pop one only an email to all the I just list. That all about playing your pop Warner league in in the different not I'm not gonna -- His team you have been bitch and that you gave the tickets -- to get support touched but he scored touchdown yeah that he was with the team's record one that's playoff pretty good score. I think it's cool quarterback next -- to get comfortable here. Until two -- John wrote what I like to sit down I think. It's -- right it is outfit on we'll see you tomorrow tomorrow's Friday right we're still here fellow there will be here though we'll see that here"