Patriots Playbook - 11/1/2007

[0:00]" Let's go let's go let's go up another at all it's it's patriots playbook eligible man coverage and it's all the thank god I don't seven route briefly book breaking down last Sunday's game get go ahead and handed him because of back. Over the top next Sunday -- want to go thought bought it recently that they've won fair and the rest of the 2000 NFL comes back. Combat on. Career and some of the ones that do between even 51 great payment that you want right now."

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[0:39]" kids that we don't were offered rod and without much closer. Who patriots colts on Sunday Super Bowl 40 wanted to -- As it has been described my name is John -- we welcome you inside the patriots playbook -- patriots dot com radio. That's -- at 4:15 eastern time on Sunday at the RCA dome -- decided these was this week. Who's on top. Who's the best team in the NFL or at least we've got the inside track who's the best team in the AFC to this point I was really what they'll be determining."

[1:11]" On Sunday but as we've talked about this far this week it really doesn't mean a whole lot what are really means is that the team still wins on Sunday still has a chance to stand defeated. Bomb even though that we'll still be difficult whoever wins and the only real thing that is one. On Sunday is a leg up in home field advantage for the AFC playoffs that's it. That's all that's really -- Not to mention though of course the fact that you've got real bragging rights and people will be taken -- that you whoever survives this battle an and of course that's the -- about it. I don't the colts deep down have to feel some what. I don't know what's in the if there's probably a little bit too strong but I'm guessing that. You know way they're probably raised an eyebrow and then they're probably chuckling about it much like the papers at a few years ago when they were. Not well respected around the league for what they were doing in -- the patriots coming in in in in the -- of 112 -- Coleman. -- and so -- defending Super Bowl champs another five point underdogs in their own building I can understand. What fans would have a problem that. The players probably internalize that if it bothers them at all. Just adds to the tree. On the program coming up -- spread mention Mike chappell who covers the colts for the Indianapolis star in Indy star dot com you can join us in just a little bit calm. Of the colts perspective on this and higher. Week of those going back and forth all we will also hear from Russell Baxter of course the unifil research coordinator for ESPN. We hear from him every Thursday on the show will sparkled pretzels -- look at some of the other matchup from the NFL -- there are other games. The entire league is not laying down for the patriots and colts this Sunday. Almost something. The probably should. But we'll take a look at a couple of the games but obviously this is misses them. Matchup in day you'll join us in approximately 40 minutes as well. And time permitting today as we get so much to get to and I want to include your emails as well with your predictions for Sunday. Let's go kid's arm off so you've already done that we've got a ton of emails that. Follow we have not gotten to -- the last hour of the program so we do whatever we can to get to those plus a few choice ones over the course of book off live near programming when people were podcasting of people listening to the replays on website and such like that we want to take as much we can't from. Bomb so far off your score predictions web radio at patriots dot com predict the score for Sunday how's it going to turn out what's -- going to come down to. Where is the difference going to be between the patriots -- and especially if -- colts and I really want to hear from you. Specifically want to hear from you because I know you feel like your team's going to tell me why do you think your team will win this game that's what I want to know. On stand up for your team if you think they'll win let's go let's Eric. At -- patriot fans I'm sure you'd think the -- went to tell me why until in which the score will be. I'm going to be my score prediction coming -- a little bit later -- program but it's time to -- off web radio -- patriots dot com do that. In addition to Russell as I mentioned time permitting we get inside the patriots locker room with the interviews the patriots players. And we also have conference call from Tony Dungy coached the cold that richly took place yesterday in time permitting we'll get to that. Simply because he was asked about his comments in the aftermath of spy game. I'd sort of comparing Bill Belichick and the entire situation to what was going on with Barry Bonds. And the that was sort of poignant and he did little backpedaling on them but you might like to hear that if you hadn't had a chance to do so permitting we'll get that we want to get inside the locker room and your players is that the ones like we. Yeah on the field actually exchanging -- and trying to win the game on Sunday and theirs would focus -- work we'll keep our focus on the play books until a lot of stuff to get to today out of step to get him what time is Mike -- joining us carry. Okay he's in Georgia a couple of minutes let's get a couple of emails before he joins us coming up this -- from William in Hattiesburg he says the constant complaining about the way to win when beaten teams yours hires. Offense is on the field to score here they are paid millions to be the greatest time of possession team with no points. These guys have an opportunity to have a special year -- some historical posted records -- go for it. These professional teams they play against -- cut date cupcake schedule. I'm proud and avoid that problem the pats win or lose either in 91 maybe two and we hit rock bottom. Come along -- those years that it -- for mercy or another team we shall respect and take -- the keep -- beat Tom Randy west Donta pretty ridiculous ticket to the colts. But wouldn't talk about all week thankfully. Absolutely I mean why should you let out. -- solution you're paid professionals do the job that you paid to do. And don't worry about what anybody says worry about what you know. Your teammate next to you might say or do well in that I would worry about what anybody's -- about what your coach -- he's poignantly. Dave Tuesday from that we he's from Alexandria, Virginia. After all the hype on the running up the court debate I laughed learned that the dolphins out the -- during a perfect season 52 nothing. With two with a touchdown occurring in the fourth quarter mile long passes it. It's true and we talked about that it. As for Mike will bought his comments and getting Brady in the fourth quarter taking the penalty he's lost a man. A press guy advocating intentionally hurting another player because something like running up the score crosses the line. Ago I have to admit that surprised me as well as some but he blog on his website and I was shocked by that is what image and that last night ideas and I it Ms on the he would say some like that maybe he said at all and it may be that'd be flip but I I agree with you in that respect for someone in the media who is influence over. What he says and does I think that was zone. Disrespectful to the game and also thought it was them. I just thought it was unnecessary. Unnecessary Todd in nova Scotia is it's 8 PM I'm sitting in my living room listened to a podcast of granite I've had a few beverages but. This season and nearly choked them on ice in my Ryan Coke and Pepsi but it was built when I hear Thomas dressing -- his dog all we're talking about Halloween last night. By the way I mine's -- my two of your last night did a tremendous job. Tremendous job brought back better than 300 pieces the -- animal. Shocking we actually had a pretty good crop last final bullet that was a little small on the previous years -- one of those you know all -- neighborhoods -- You know they actually truck in the kids from other neighborhoods. Just because the neighborhood we live in -- of the the proverbial beaver cleaver neighborhood where I live. So I had a great -- and it's probably going to be with -- until christmas. Animals are here to say that I think bottle caps right highly underrated Halloween candy. Sugar rush last I really kind of kept me go home between two and six and so Todd has passed 38 Indy 20. That's his score prediction publicity. I've some of these things are still here to -- PO WS I'll leave them for them this comes. I can't even tell where that comes from because that'll -- you gotta give us a name here and it would be best if you didn't write a two page email. Just as an aside Lindsay. More than once you've mentioned that colts win necessarily running the score one all of this is again this is to be a double fine no problem. On his prediction colts 42 -- 35 this from Lawrence. -- doubled their Belichick to try to one up the score I usually watch the game from Oregon my job is sending me to Boston for a few days will be watching Michael's. Beat the patch from the -- That's about lunch for you clowns of the AFC champ which you do like it to the stadium by drop by on Tuesday we've given him -- two of the -- he's going to bring -- note. You know I think you should bring lunch may be especially the patriots went but it Lawrence from west Linn Oregon says colts 42 at 35. -- Ethan and Delaware I'd be willing to toss in 20 bucks to Erik's -- reveled only my team is something it is portrait if W stuff thank you -- I was listening to the podcast this morning and have to agree with you guys and smart play. Being both teams taken would pass. Going in the nickel would not be surprised the patriots went with the big nickel and allowed -- to float down into -- linebacker position and -- some of the short roots in run support. This is doubly troops Seymour was rated -- start take away the past and put the game in the hands of your 31 round linemen in the either stop but died or they don't. I think the cold -- plays nickel make sure that nothing goes long cover the short -- keep Welker and Watson from exploiting the middle. Patriots have not really run on -- this year's or take away the past make Maroney and -- prove they can do it. Personally in this is though through the patriots colored glasses should be taken with a shaker full assault I'd like the patriots -- line was he more in. I think that -- behind the line can win the battle. That's Ethan in Delaware -- let's go to the phones now and now welcome in my chappell who covers the -- for Indianapolis star Michael Long time no talk to you -- thanks for the time to."

[10:46]" Where -- note -- get -- on the you know. Certainly from this vantage point patriots fans feel like there is absolutely nothing that that can slow down what they're describing as a juggernaut of the offense and you -- I had this discussion of it last night but in another venue -- Quite frankly all of the way that the colts have you know brought their defense in the play this year kind of piggybacking on what they did during the era. During their championship run last year has been impressive what has been a major difference to your estimation but they've been able to kind of continue that kind of like."

[11:22]" On number 21 plate Bob -- eight below one right bit in this 12 game lecture about the playoffs and -- on the runners. Missed one game this year he just makes a difference -- the other ample player who want to -- pass rusher -- in Europe. -- Michael Strahan or whatever that makes it different than he does he just he just makes plays. Any -- The player people around him to another level in any -- that David -- people lost their -- court mar well injection Kelvin Hayden they're like well critical the linebacker like a lot better this year there were a lot of missed tackles last year by the linebackers and -- have been the case this year it's just been very Shelden solid deep early. The wasteful and indulgent guys you know keeping -- make tackles when they're Arabic people drive audio -- going to be huge challenges are going to throw it up there what -- don't know about Rubin got a you know quick striking. Looked up field that's -- about differently you know I."

[12:29]" I would say that the number basically we'll get these 222 game offensively that you know what they might want to do is just try to work on a little ball control themselves to keep it out the other team's offensive hands."

[12:40]" Yeah really got I think it is going to. Funny I look at this colts team that I would want to disrespect Peyton Manning at saint managing games because sometimes a trip Oprah manages games that bet that that's really what they've been a bit about no mistakes. What's there. Different but underneath all they double we're due to run the ball at duke. But I think it's your right -- it's instead of given me getting in. And Brady you know 12 possession reached a -- 67 -- you don't -- possessions and but I just. These seem like they'd they'd like to strike when they here and from what what the -- ignoring. Like -- shots or. -- one on one where maybe just all of which -- Jacqueline and takes the distance and it's a -- here. Struggle on the divided -- a bit but I really think -- points -- there has debated. But I just there's going to be a couple of defensive play as such somebody -- going to make whether that's brought -- here our our standard or Billy Thomas or Brady this -- the difference."

[13:37]" Yeah you brought up a key players Dwight Freeney now because in the past patriots offense -- line certainly had trouble with speed eons. You know guys like Jason Taylor guys like Aaron Schobel certainly -- Dwight Freeney falls in the category in the pages have been outstanding play from the office one thus far this year. Matt light is is is relieved it may be his best year yet I think it's a huge key to the game what an -- Indianapolis is you know front four can actually put some kind of pressure -- make him throw early. And not allow pleased to unfold."

[14:08]" What seemed like ready like a -- or early Cuban boat does this sort of led. At that short -- assault with a walker and P I have -- do you not get frustrated when he's at that's always premature really promote -- drops. In -- urgent help our -- an attempt and seven yards a completion brain doesn't do you any of the big plays got out of that somehow some way your target pressure on -- Manning and Brady. And -- don't look a lot there really quadruple our order do it now maybe maybe they changeup something that we I don't know but. That they would -- both brilliant -- to -- gonna get prepared you'd you'd let somebody block double somewhere and and -- I -- and so."

[14:50]" No doubt and I think the middle of the field is going to get worked and worked hard by both quarterbacks between Dallas Clark with the colts and and if we've got Benjamin Watson back healthy and he has returned to practice to participate this week I think those are two huge keys as well. All the these -- defense lawyer going to kind of in play back a bit and try not to get beat deep in other words keep the action in front of them majority alluded to talk that the middle of the field is going to be big."

[15:15]" Yeah I really that's worked out party just we've got heiress and wait outside the middle. Look fielded just in just it's going to be open because you know you can only double in pay attention to so many people of silly people and that's what Clark did. -- in the title electric a couple of cute. Went down the middle and that's what they love to do they look like you're parked on the Medal maybe Anthony Gonzales is Rick down the middle slightly gritty the same way. If you -- so much did you outside that the middle of that thats where -- worked -- upper or lower."

[15:44]" Sure my travel covered the colts for the Indy star he's with -- here and said the patriots playbook. Mike who in particular on this team has surprised in terms of his overall performance that maybe you weren't sure what you get."

[15:56]" Probably Tony you know the left tackle -- they take -- in this round in April due up next year's first round picks for -- with a guy dividend and 2000 and went Tarik Glenn was gone probably going to be -- the -- you don't position and -- in June -- July whatever wasn't retires but all of sudden. Tony goes learning curve what was exhilarated other women that left tackle -- for -- haven't been receptive but the game without. Rebecca would ever was and but he's played pretty well -- a couple of cubs sub in short in in short stretch of played pretty well are you a butcher quarterbacks and back in the hands of of a rookie that says. You know much about your your confidence in the diet for the most part he played pretty well we just to know what we were getting -- right labor -- are well."

[16:49]" Yeah I would I would have to agree -- you. And I would also had just because that you mention you go on the ailments line that when my favorite players -- vigilant watch is Jeff Saturday of the guys as solid as a rock literally. And I'm watching yesterday a couple of times on NFL network the replay of the AFC champ your game. In honor of the late touchdown Saturday just flattened Vince Wilfork and I'm sure it's on the that -- remembered going into the game this Sunday."

[17:13]" We targeted -- at basic she tried to downplay because I got used that close were -- offensive -- that your play -- that's how often do you do you get a walk along with a guy and really wondering if you -- murderer -- whatever what about back. All meet winning on the winning side little of the biggest game did you -- sort of been unheralded. Across illegal to your body and Dubai going to the pro bowl and east Soriano is is the glue that -- all -- commanding. Did you watch at the last trip senate and the same stuff as far as getting that nobody bit colder -- Opera to quality Blair net not bad for a guy that before doing a goal Priscilla electoral equipment in North Carolina."

[17:57]" I unbelievable I think he's a great player now one of the key matchups I think we're looking man on man has to be a guy like a Marvin Harrison may -- might land up against society's -- both had missed time in practice this week. Samuel returns today it was away yesterday for personal matter how is Marvin Harrison doing."

[18:16]" Good question about that before practice today -- the American and he was in shorts and that's what church sure not a bad I don't think you actually that many bulge practice today and -- that it could go to practice today there's probably double. The first Sunday not to -- tomorrow or whatever what people have to understand Marvin Harrison records of every day he never misses practice unless there's something wrong so. This good against the bit like pressure or whatever but he's got a problem that left me and going to be issued Milosevic not out there because -- you do everything you you can't you don't want to -- You know. That would somebody like Buick without Randy moss probably not so I think -- a -- to build big block or no go opposite of the way they guarded duke and budget. Record today which doesn't look like here has been tomorrow. The told could be somewhat short -- on Sunday."

[19:10]" Could he still practice tomorrow conceivably play in your estimate."

[19:14]" But that's why it it's -- but they are well we're what you're doing your doors and put me centered things and you know -- solid on Wednesday and certainly do it doesn't matter a lot right. It worked if you practiced Friday there -- Okay like your streak like he did not practice for what swallow you know like forget -- of what that would that would regular -- wonder we can record today about general. Record but he never practical -- and but but what went on like more -- on our. -- maybe brickyard -- Marshall what his status -- get up and post concussion syndrome when those guys don't record. Concern -- guys -- get a day off here now like I'm sure a lot of players are heavily it's not a big deal while rare in the big deal."

[19:54]" Yeah I'm course you you guys are long like. Patriots in that regard on the injury report come out early in the week he -- like at. So what you know what's actually pretty -- water everywhere. Right you know witches -- you know Florida in another another topic for another day put him to have a persistent shoulder -- He's negative or he's not getting it was caused by Giselle and they always go to another and I think yeah maybe maybe still looking to steer clear of that --"

[20:28]" overall I know the hype is great but how does the fans in Indianapolis. Feel about being a home dog it when you've won 12 federal home and that being the defending champs."

[20:38]" Israel I don't want to take it anymore I -- they really take that personal. -- billions Bulger manager and senior open your Bible four point under -- and it. Perception perception over the that's what -- need to get. An equal amount of money humble teams in the perception is about nationalism that. Unstoppable this is that that's just the way that that it. The public RW 34 point game is becoming like -- in perception then what might be -- Is a couple of years ago what was that it title game the other your articles lately. But late toward the Q and the city and Denver and what -- charged with 112 touchdown interception and they went up there with -- great even you guys that all your overall well here. -- Troy brown great or little bit right stuff but it just stuffed them and I must say how difficult it is regularly. You're not going to slowdown in new agreement quite that much but I'd just -- that -- all the fight them. It's stated it's not going to be you know 5654 that it a couple of good defensive plays and it was -- now actually getting. Short -- but it might be this about a thousand players completed five interpret it different or so they match up well with the government reverse."

[22:00]" What are your thoughts on whoever ends up losing this game -- what it does to their season from here on out."

[22:07]" I think it -- it loses they go 50 or one I don't see an article in the early on on the schedule the up and Baltimore at that -- can't score Pittsburgh at all what is -- to can't scored are -- then -- biblical and knowing the media but it is. And as -- you're going to write about six you know the possibilities progression for a rest of the season group the way the schedule has its adult players. Well I can't expect to happen as it is it me look at and I I think COLT went Sunday in an illusion. I don't but they don't and -- written about it but it is it's a tough stretch form but I think what it didn't sit -- you have 14 into team being on Tuesday. Yeah which is kind of strange that that that's why you know this is just a game. And political activity here or whoever wins this game. And whatever in the playoffs that's where the gave it right so you know I'm going to meet up eight to get it in anywhere like -- be important supposed to open article."

[23:06]" No doubt and so that's why you know I mean even though the overall scheme of things this game doesn't mean a lot. What it does mean is that whoever does surviving on Sunday as a leg up on the home field advantage rates in Canada no it's not a little thing especially because what you just said -- the winner this game. Has that home field advantage and they haven't lost yet so it's kind of book. Kind of interesting scenario. -- listen thanks so much for spending some extra time with though are patriots fans listening in today and I want you know waited quite a few colts fans also listening in this program this week in. And it just tells me that there's great passion for this match up and I do think that the patriots and colts is you know the night -- the 2000 version of the cowboys Redskins of these developing a quarter rivalry."

[23:47]" Yet but don't -- and don't give him personally. Actually we've got some colts fans believe -- not come out of the woodwork here in New England. About that's great -- Mike thank thank you very much. Guys are you gotta talk --"

[24:02]" That's Mike chappell who covered the colts for the Indianapolis star newspaper he began with covering the colts when they moved from Baltimore in 1984 so he's been covering that team ever since they arrived in Indy which would now be 23 years and count so he's probably got his finger on the pulse apologist but everything is going on within that franchise in Indianapolis in it's been quite at a time talking him last night was doing the ESPN radio show so -- him to come back to visit again today albeit to an instance -- different audience. Little bit more focused audience national audience last night worldwide audience today -- right here on patriots dot com radio. Web radio -- patriots dot com is the email address if you want to sit in your two cents worth taking your score predictions. Come on you've been waiting for this all week I know some you have Marty don't -- jump the body couldn't wait board you're bringing in the scores as early as Tuesday of this week. So what I'm going to ask you is is that if you -- corporate action in earlier this week I want you to send it again because today we're really paying attention okay. Early in the -- it's -- like okay that's nice that's fine thank you reading time but now we're paying attention. -- of the score prediction. Let's find out what you have to think if you are -- in -- listening with -- your New England you're in Indiana or wherever you may be like in west Linn Oregon Lawrence. In which pitcher you teachers -- we've read it already that's fine but I want you to lump. Sinister prediction tell us why you think you -- team will -- where will the difference beat. On Sunday. Pretty easy to -- right. Web radio at patriots -- for says pat 36 calls 27. That's pretty much Alexis but he is -- right there let's eagles would your kind of weed through abilities."

[25:56]" Okay thanks for keeping his -- pats fans up to speed what's going on within the team policy. Now for the colts three things I will be watching close the patriots first drive will be very important. We've been great so far in the -- that bill likes to set the tone on the first drive of the cold very emotional -- can force that early quality could said he bad zone. Number two strip sacks on Brady already had a few this year but he pitches that have players near the caliber of Reading and math and -- turn over this game could be killer. No doubt about that I can only recall one strip -- Means that we that we only had like five turnovers -- seven turnovers here by -- like this. Whoever perception of the difficult fourth receiver Manny has gotten so much better with a check downs and patience it's always frustrating to have innings. Main targets covered on a big third down plays -- find someone you have barely heard about just enough yards to move the chains. I believe patriots play their game can stay out of turn -- they should be able to come out with a victory from the very tough assignment I can't wait for the game let's go with the pats winning 35 to 20 -- In his prediction comes from pat in Minnesota thank you pat an excellent job by you Matt from Oregon. Hey guys I'm a podcasters haven't heard Wednesday show yet but I must it to the show was the worst I've heard yet however like a train wreck I couldn't turn away. I think he's referring to Pia told you guys you could possibly be referring to me leaguer. The train wreck okay I know it for some reason or another I don't know of anybody can hear it. It put on the head phones here that you hear this like low little rumbling noise that's coming through it's not your computer structure hard drive about the crash. I'll right next door where we have our radio studios here Gillette stadium. They're they're basically barely their way through concrete. I don't know why they're doing it nobody can figure out why it."

[27:50]" That's what it sounds like we take -- phone -- And it's right outside our door. And I think the use of that jackhammers that the Marlins right."

[28:04]" They're using jackhammers to pile drive through the concrete here at the stadium right outside our studio door here. With a course out without any regard -- thinking that all they could be actually somebody to be trying to work or. Better yet somebody could actually try to do radio which is you know tough thing to. Overcome so what you know hey progress continues here -- you know -- Angeles stated nevermind the people -- we apologize. If you hearing any of that noise in areas try to put on his -- phone so he can. Not get a headache from all the -- drive anyway matches -- I don't we've beaten this one to death but let me sure ovals road in my senior year do you we -- rugby team with -- New Zealand play some teams there -- in the sport from the masters. Going in most of these game we knew that it was entirely possible that we would be crushed a ridiculous point Mark however we would never expected the other teams. To do anything other than keep playing as hard as they could it's time expired. Because no matter what the score we would be doing our best to stop them an even if we have lost a hundred and nothing. I would've gladly bought the other guys around later and congratulated them -- sound victor. That's what a real man does when he's getting looked. He keeps fighting -- he tries to learn how to do better in the future it is and bitch and moan about treating being treated unfairly. Good point man. -- Morgan this and come from Dwyane -- as I have an idea what the expected could be in Sunday's game special teams. Whatever the patriots play the cold the most common factor each game is that New England special teams owns Indies. Even of the games lost against him 2005 regular season game is the only game I can think of where this wasn't the case in the AFC championship. Ellis Hobbs eight up a chunk of yards in his returns which made it a lot easier for the pats to score the second half of the AFC championship. During the regular season Indy specialties may Laurence Maroney looked like an all star return man last year in 2003 they managed to make Bethel Johnson -- talent. Unless the colts can manage either managed to stop the -- dolphins or significantly improve their deep into the key game the colts are going to struggle to keep up with the patriots scoring. This gives the patriots significant edge in two phases of the game therefore I'm predict may 2042 to 24 victory over the coals. And not researched how well India's formed in the kicking game or this year to worse. Adam Vinatieri and the maybe that's -- you need to know. So thank you doing that one was active. This in the show on from Edmonton Alberta since this when any -- Obviously there is possible in a secondary in on his tail thriller will be what Brady said the new single season touchdown record. After the -- win the superbowl last year was pretty tough to argue that Brady was a better quarterback demanding. But when the dust settles from this season I think that it'll be even harder to make the opposite argument. Fair enough pieces -- want the papers to walk into the RCA dome and show everybody who's the better team it is. It won't stop -- from turning Tony Dungy and Bill Belichick and the NFL's version of god and satan but at least people will know who the better team he has. Thank you -- on TJ in New Jersey. It died Manning Brady Sanders Clark Harrison were all familiar with a big names but it with a lesser known players that could be the ones to make the critical play of the game. What do you think on the -- to be the players make the plays that determine the outcome of the game al -- Randall gay Dan Klecko. That you tech. -- is drowning in the height TG and inject well actually -- Mike -- kind of -- able all of that he really likes the player don't you go all the -- left tackle on the offensive line for the colts because he has protect Manning's backside. So pages are able they get pressure. They're going to have to go to a guy like Hugo so you go could indeed be. A lesser known players that might end up making incredible local play of the game or protect and potentially a critical blunder. If the patriots were able to beat him to get the -- put pressure and maybe even secular strip sack him or something almost like I mean look at the week that might -- last week with. 33 strip sex. On Jason Campbell although of the Redskins. So that would that you goes going to going to be spot on just as I think a guy like Matt light is most likely going to be up against it trying to blocked like. -- coming you know those two guys right there could be key guys that are sort of Fulham under the lights on that could end up being -- hero or the goat. Coming up and as Mike just told us. An exclusive -- my attitude you people listening right here -- patriots -- told us about Marvin Harrison and if he doesn't practice tomorrow. You would expect him to see and see him out of the field on Sunday that could be big so if he does not go by the way I personally think he will go. What if he does not then a guy like Anthony Gonzales couldn't. Coming up huge here is dollars and the wanted to play on for Marvin Harrison and Gonzales -- match that most likely against a guy like assumptions and so -- Gonzalez can end -- being a hero for the colts well potentially a difference maker let's see what else we have here let's go with. Like garbage today. -- from Springfield correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't here on -- entry -- you guys -- that the -- were bordering on slander. And that someone from the patriots charitable organizations send him a letter. Why the sudden about face a -- still feel that the idiot it was but the -- organization when they hired -- W staff and now he finally has a chance to get even. And as far as the comparisons to the other high powered teams earlier years do you think that is more the media raises the question of Patrick scored in the fans. Much from where you go on that that was -- mention that. I don't know where Tom could selling of the fact that I wanted to pick a fight with a -- not want to pick a fight with -- anybody -- what I want to do that that's stupid. Who told him that did you tell -- that. Now there was an email talking about you saying that -- be sent a letter from the terrible foundation and slander. Yeah I did it. I've hooligans and they wanted to pick a fight. But frankly what I'm thinking is in it maybe if he did that column tongue in cheek which I'm getting the impression most people believe that he did. But he did what I am saying is that that the charitable organizations is in a letter to point out all the good things the patriots do because. He made it sound like guys like Brady and other guys on this football team do not do that in the community which could not be further from the truth. Just want to make sure. That he sees both sides of the story. That's all. He's entitled to his opinion I told you that from day one. -- and he -- as the wants the listen. I thought of that and they want he is a columnist that's what he does his job is to. You know tweak the heart strings of football fans everywhere and get you to surf to that site and reading this stuff. Which apparently is now happening which is fine. I just thought it was it was borderline irresponsible that was my own personal opinion. Whether the patriots follow up my guess is they probably don't because that probably won't pay any attention at all feeling like if they pay attention to it it lends credibility to it. That's all. He says as far as with the match of the colts we have the best chance this year dropping the colts we have a strong the events and finally an offense that compares to the colts. They should be one of the games for the century I predict that by 16. If the offence can put up the numbers they have the first eight -- going to keep Manny off the field enough time to keep them from getting into his rhythm. -- I think -- that's actually a huge heat I do believe that the patriots would try to do some ball control offense just to keep. Number one the ball away from the colts and number two with a cold -- of the ball to make them more one dimensional. It's easier to defend a team when you know or at least you have a good idea what's coming so both teams. Want to force it to the other into a passing situation. No doubt about that that that's exactly what you're looking at defense. Why I think that quite frankly I think that's. That's why you know the defenses are aura around are hugely key here. Craig in South Carolina says I think our ability to stop in the will be largely dictated by how we perform defensively in the middle of the field and we can talk about that Craig who picked up. So much of their offensive success has been achieved on draws slot short throws to the backs and tight ends and -- cuts. Hum throwing our effort to get Manning's in get in his grill and make him move that we play -- littlefield and keep the -- 224 points. I don't isn't fair but I hope Brady doesn't through rivers at all you got open a drop too easy balls looking clueless in the process my fear is that a bubble ball by rivers could result in a costly turnover. There's one team we cannot afford to lose the turnover battle to. Former cold Eric Dickerson as stated the -- and get beat because they cannot run the ball yet. It's his -- went 38 point four. Well."

[36:58]" Not when he went about their readers recently does have a job broadcast steadily anymore -- the predictions here -- what else what else Johnson it was percent of right there one moment one thing Mike repent you know what is considered pulling up the score. As the colts -- missing the season opener 41 and 317 cents respectively the last two weeks. Anyone accuse the almighty costs of any wrongdoing when they have their way that the team defenses. Have a beloved patriots becoming anti Christ and which break point two teams stops going and we go beyond that will we be flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct. The battle cry babies need to grow up every one crime would probably give up their first -- have all -- like one it was built in doing Mike. Is it look. -- you brought up an interesting topic I'll forget that the colts and pass where in the same division not too long ago. Can you imagine what it would be like -- that was the case today."

[38:12]" Two games a year like this within the division on the line he imagine of 151 team beat wild card team. And having to play three playoff games with two of them on the road at. Unbelievable that is kind of wild. And -- Mike does can imagine that little while ago it's it's like he loses game still and a 15 and 114 into. In end up you know no better than the second seed. What should be -- but I mean if you're in the same division PJ is absolutely right. In the same division could you be 50 and wanted to -- the wild card and you gonna end up playing three games on the road that truly would be under the unbelievable. Unprecedented and probably this is attending a rule -- of worthy of well he says here's my prediction for the game pat score at will the colts score almost at will. That's 38 colts 31. Thanks -- Brian it's August -- John do you think that Laurence Maroney is near a 100% but I think that it would be legal on some. And when you think anymore will be back in the lineup I think that they are great 12 point they're both. Yeah -- close it's really honestly it's it's really kind of tough to tell with him. Bomb it's of the because he just you know obviously they're very close mouthed about it united get an answer from the players themselves because they've been told not to talk about injuries but. Yeah from the way he is you know able to break into the open field and and make his cuts -- yeah he looks like he's pretty close to 1%. Pars Maurice is concerned I guess the timetable on him is still maybe -- the week it is. At best. So old you know maybe the the the off week next week the patriots benefited Alex anymore and hopefully a couple of weeks on the patriots resume at buffalo it might be an opportunity to slowly work him back into the lineup who knows. He says if Hairston doesn't play this week in Vegas on will be covering you think it's on will be a point. Why Hairston -- play this week and -- does play who will cover Wayne Wayne is that wide receiver miles on Ellis Hobbs most likely Brian. One thing heels of probably draws that -- aero pull them back at that time again we kids as we on Thursdays welcoming in now Russell Baxter from ESPN"

[40:22]" NFL research coordinator and our good friend. Russell I think that there's a big game on Sunday."

[40:27]" Yeah you know any time he's in an Oakland get together they think that it happened I'm sorry -- bring that up only because from well. From what I understand it and later right I eat I do we -- invited to carry it didn't really get should be joking but. You know this CBS affiliate there the Texans are at Oakland which means since you're on the road don't actually the -- the couple patriots game."

[40:56]" Nice day -- that it can't be perfect right now. Well with all due respect -- into the of the the Texans game coming up against the raiders on Sunday. I think most fans around here around these parts an -- much of the NFL consider this game to be shall we say Super Bowl 41 and a half. You agree."

[41:18]" Well you know we've we've seen it before where we have these Titanic tilt and it doesn't necessarily eight live -- And be you know the one team or maybe both teams -- wanted to go as far as we predictive but I will say that. Now I don't -- be case here can be beat these two we have an unprecedented. Matchup of of unbeaten here you know that the first time and it is illegal leak which goes back 80 years the two teams at least seven need each other and it's it's also become deep creek -- rivalry of this decade there's a question about it is it what Alison -- sisco was had been in the mid 90s and it that's also pointed out quite effective this is the third year eroded these teams meet -- ninth week of the season. Very conveniently it's funny how the until god does that -- well I think so I want Beckett looked didn't 949596. China -- efforts sisco or met the week 11. Of the regular season. In consecutive years so it's CBS is -- your -- BC's the year before that was ABC Monday Night Football -- he's of that but in the playoffs you know countless times you know it's it's now ignite gained rivalry -- say of the breeding -- Eric but it's also rivalry that it's taken that an about face certain that was -- when the patriots now three straight wins to the colts and I think that's what makes it. Intriguing because now you company you have a matchup for you have it teams scored an unprecedented -- point against a team is defending Super Bowl champions. And I think we mention it on the airwaves of the probably at least two months ago it is role reversal from where these teams were basically three years ago. It is now the patriot to repeat -- terse. And it to teams that are are -- would bear with a high scoring arsenal it is now the colts routed defending Super Bowl champions and now armed with a better defensive they've had in recent years."

[43:32]" You know -- and of course. The -- hole good guy versus bad guy good versus evil thing it's kind of reversed itself as well."

[43:39]" Well yes I mean -- I think that's kind of become a duke -- belong here now you know with -- with -- you know the recent scores for the patriots have because a lot made of last week it you know 50 to seven -- countries comments that Bill Belichick afterwards you know -- would be really said a -- made that you know that -- the patriots scored a 101 point two -- two games and the colts had given up a 102 this season it's seven games. So we're really is you know these are numbers that would duplicate could be reverse we talked about it before it is the patriots putting up you know ugly cassette unprecedented numbers and it's a -- speaking place at TNT game -- the second -- under or holding off the Texans and it just like beat the patriots used to do when they were second pick me having him pushing -- field goal range on a Thursday night that Mike energetic men and it is if it's a bit of role reversal but it but it's also understandable because. In these last three meet -- that that the Indianapolis Colts in the last three Kevin played patriots. John ended it going to be numbers that I you we'd spoke they'll bite hard everybody the world of -- by art. Has scored as many points in the last three meetings with the -- he did in the first six -- previous six meetings with petitions they first six. It's -- it's a hundred but okay 4027. And 38 now what made last year so revealing in that championship game was. Dale what was sporting what three that it became point 16 but the colts put up 32 points the second half right of the EC title game. The New England Patriots earlier that -- at. -- did did not give up. More the 27 pointed any one -- That's -- and the colts put 32 want them in the second half of the game alone he also rolled up 311 yards of total offense in the second have allowed. It would be even more interesting is that team that's scored the 27 point on them in the regular season. Was also be Indianapolis Colts right so 40273815 what do we do. -- go out and boost would. And get ready -- we get Wes Welker we get Donte' Stallworth we've fortify airport receiving corps regional depth at running that would seem to morsel that we are right now. And I think the patriots -- long. Has been to try to out score the Indianapolis Colts."

[46:02]" Well you know I think also what they did is they knew that them because they got now exploited as you suggested by scoring at 32 in the second half -- the championship game. Eddie get a little bit shall we say quicker in the line backing core if not stronger which is why they went down from a guy like -- Thomas now I don't know that he's going to make. That much of a difference in the game but I agree with you I thought they think. That the best way to combat with the colts did the damage by doing unto others what others have already done do you."

[46:29]" Yes I don't think there's any question about it but what makes it it it's interesting in this matchup is and you know I I've I've probably watched that AFC championship games 45 times it since it happened just being a football fans to watch -- I mean think about what and eight fascinating game. Okay you which three linemen score touchdowns -- game. That's right -- the bank it's recovered a fumble on Saturday recovered one -- become -- Dan -- caught a touchdown pass you know you -- over two point conversion would do which probably was a little bit of a surprise but they pulled it off to tie the score. They finally evened the score and the patriot just keep on coming back with their special teams. Which it still is say it's a little -- pole for Indianapolis Colts. If the will -- Brady the world of banning but the one person that really sticks out in my mind -- especially the second half. And he's become federal focal point of the colts passing attack fishery -- Dallas Clark. And what you people do we get over the middle and that patriot team but I think that's the real key city game. How far how deep and how much can those patriot -- covered Dallas Clark the -- teams have. -- you know that that the patriots do with Welker stalwart and Milosevic also be excellent tight end in bed watching and and Dallas Clark is almost like he could we could tight -- he's almost like he worked wide out. Pretty Indianapolis Colts to do with Harrison who's a little banged up. Reggie -- he's probably. Of all the wide receivers in this game probably playing the best overall wide receiver position but got to take anything away from any bought some of what the weak position the rookie -- Gonzales and out -- part of it it it is it is -- chess match of epic proportions."

[48:18]" Sure it is by the way just so you know we just had on them Mike chappell from the Indy star Andy -- that Harrison did not practice again today. So he was told by Tony Dungy that if he doesn't practice tomorrow he's probably not going to go on some."

[48:31]" that out over and that makes it even more intriguing as well you know -- figured out your member of the game last year. Even -- it -- very few catches -- Harrison did have a great game and in that game that the AFC championship game yet phenomenal game in the regular season games and where he made that great one handed and the -- they tiptoe catch the -- and decided the end zone but not having him -- lot of different things for the Indianapolis Colts but. You know were sit there to about passing attacks the quarterbacks or receivers. We haven't even got a running backs you know -- second your guys were both taken in the first round last year Laurence Maroney Joseph Addai and -- that a little banged up. And you know be expected showed his -- last week the Joseph -- has been you know I think everything they were looking for. Did it a replacement Frederick JT dot Edgerrin James he's a different kind of backed inaccurate jeans but he's a great combination of the guy who can running and catching the ball."

[49:29]" Russell Baxter -- research -- various -- visiting with us here on Thursday as he normally doesn't. Take a look at the patriots game -- look at some of the of the games around the NFL but I know you guys have spent all your prep time on this game and you've got your own game to worry about them on Monday night which will we'll touch on a bit which I think will be good when it could even have implications for the you know -- though the winner of this game on Sunday. On down the line this season but looking at the past in the colt's worst of the focused amongst your guys. -- where they feel like this thing is going to rate would really be decided."

[50:02]" What I have not had chance to talk to Emmett Smith they're Keyshawn Johnson yet. I have talked to Tom Jackson and I -- treaty talks about just the factor of did just overall -- the big picture type of thing and one of the things that don't keep focused on was the offensive line and how -- it's almost a dead heat with these offensive wide and it's something EU rarely hear about. But you think about the enormous about the time that Tom Brady. Has had a growth this year miss those guys have done it as we have they got -- really I thought last year. That was an aspect of the New England Patriots it nobody talked about what their -- white I think that's why they have become. A better team beat even the Super Bowl teams. And I -- that it urged Argentines of one point one -- and so want but what makes them so formidable right now to be used the fact that they had. And very very underrated offense supplied but with Richard Seymour and there are I think they have the best defensive front three different it's what he could you don't often think of three mean -- front. When they start about it they have the best defense of -- usually those working usually relegated for forming in life but would you have Ty -- had been -- work and Richard Seymour went healthy. They are they key everything and that they do these dates to the patriots team that won the Super Bowl I felt were probably -- like -- heavy and secondary -- terms of talent value -- kind of an agent line technical work I think the second Gary's not. Does not have the big plate baker that he used to have a beat Rodney Harrison it's -- deck in the form after the suspension and a topic -- Don't give you all want the top -- quarter lead but. You don't have the overall -- that you head back a few years ago. That would keep Detroit predicated on the front line and the when those three guys are the top of their game I think there was -- block double out court should play to get a very very good. Also to apply to the colts as well with you know -- Hugo who had been a little banged up as well but they're open I don't know what Mike chappell told -- he's going to be available for this game at least at this stage they expect him to be added you know he could build big sheet this year which Eric land now. Pete did he gets obviously a lot of credit for the fact -- he's that I get a lot of that he defected sacked a lot because that not only is released but the way he runs the offense and so what that that line I think it's become so much better at run blocking and as well I'd go back. Two last year I I think he gained it really kinda changed personalities -- of these Indianapolis Colts with that do you play off with at Baltimore. Last year critical but not scored touchdown indicate they kicked five field goals. Remember that that scored list that that touchdown streak stretched into the AFC title game. Beverly what the first half without scoring a touchdown and -- finally explode in the second half but I think people forget that. The Indianapolis Colts had the ball I think they were nurse at 12 to six lead with about seven minutes left and they controlled the ball for. Seven minutes and change it gave the ravens the ball back I think with less than 30 seconds left. Did that divisional playoff game kicked another field goal it was a kind of style of football that I think surprise some people because I think. We've always looked at the Indianapolis Colts is that strictly for that Pete. And I think they went out showed little metal they certainly showed extreme metal in the superbowl last year where they work on the Chicago Bears you know -- into the back. Running the football get Chicago's deep sense phase that's what I think what people are so excited about this Davidson but the fact that the patriots. Our scoring points like crazy it's not affected these -- Tibet the playoffs regularly the last few years they it's hard to spot. I really persistent weakness in either one of these seats. And that's why we have the matchup that we have that you know it's not just that the patriots are ego the clerk if you go back lecture 12 ago. What their last 12 game you know that the patriots be it. They're black Butte count the playoff game or just their -- he scored 34 more points. In nine straight games -- relaxed here or dykstra our we want to do this streak. Okay -- are Tom -- already eclipsed his career best numbers in -- game. By throwing 30 touchdown passes the most he's ever -- was 28 I could even updated this number but we did this last week. He held two interceptions this year and going into last week John 55 times this year quarterbacks prone to interceptions and again we're more and he's done it all year. So what you're seeing just phenomenal football -- on I I hate the word on pace. What you just look at where he was supposed to wear. -- any -- after 182004 after to a game marina what's in 1984 when he to 5084 yards. He is set to obliterate some of these numbers now. This game -- intriguing to be because it's it possible that the Indianapolis Colts have the right battled slowed down. The doing the patriots I I think that's what -- Indianapolis Colts beat you do I think if this turns out to be. And all shoot out. I think he can only favor the New England Patriots. I think this is becomes a slow day on the game I think you favored the Indianapolis Colts and I think what makes even more intriguing while we're throwing history out there. Who knows better but slowly down a high powered offense. That don't go check himself right who not only did it as a defensive coordinator with the New York Giants against the Buffalo Bills it's Super Bowl 25 but he did it head coach. Against the saint Louis rams' Super Bowl 30."

[56:03]" Correct absolute correct. I think that's that adds to the intrigue because you know you know that he's capable of doing that and yet. If he does do that as you suggest I kind of agree I think that my in the favor of the colts in the long run."

[56:16]" The caveat it is you know world it and it and and here's the funny how -- something and we know something is going to happen. Something has happened that we're not expecting in this game. -- as much as we try to get as much as we try to forecast as much as we try to figure this out. It's just like lectured championship gate gate gate and what you're watching a game that you ever imagine that -- at the -- a pitcher for going to be up 213 no and let the game get away note I don't ever imagine you'd see. Three offensive lineman. I'm sorry to look at the climate it defensive tackle -- touchdown -- indicate did you ever imagine that. It would be the colts who would you get on the field the final 22 minutes three minutes and change and yet. Tom Brady threw the interception a marlin Jackson late there there was so much about that game that I think is still fresh in people's mind that they're carry over into this year is game because. I expect to be black church championship game was one of the best football game I think the last figures because of everything get added him and so. And I think you don't set the stage where it. You know not only this unprecedented matchup between the two teams but. You know you've got to a quarterback would it would three Raines who has put it up you don't mind bending numbers. Against a quarterback who has put up all the numbers in the past it did not play. What was different in a different style of football. It it I would say the word unselfish and so one but. Pete -- it's not putting that the numbers that he's put up in the -- in -- Indianapolis Colts are still winning very consistently."

[57:58]" I Rosalyn I want to put you on the spot what's your what's your inclination towards Sunday's game and we think could actually end up being on top after Roloson done."

[58:06]" Well my inclination is to go with the petite like pick to win the Super Bowl but. Goodyear that was the Indianapolis Colts now I won't take -- at the -- in the Super -- Philadelphia Eagles. Because I'm kind of sluggish start but not always going to Earl weaver once the pendulum swings for a little bit its wings for a little YL. It affected the -- that had -- number recently. -- leads me to believe doubt what I'd be surprised to see these two teams meet again. Absolutely not but I think government leading toward the colts in the here. And I picked -- we'd probably it would put like 82621 game with Abacha Adam Vinatieri field goals it'd. The -- do we just enough. Told them ought to -- I think the cold either run the football I think will be able to run the football -- don't truly be able to slow bailed with the patriots to do it but. If you put me on the spot -- 26 point one -- either going to feel like a -- the superbowl."

[59:03]" Yeah just a little bit it really does so he can feel like that deepens might end -- being a factor in this thing after --"

[59:09]" deeply attached to be a factor I think it's going to have to take put toward it he got to talk about place and so I think what's interesting. He appeared eager to -- In the six times that the university here I think which is startling number in six previous meetings before this winning streak. The Indianapolis Colts lost them six meetings that Tom Brady of the patriots six era that scored a 105 point struck they turned over the ball 19. -- in the sixth game. In the last three games with export beat sexy about a point they committed total four turnovers right. That's a big that's a big swing that -- big turnaround. It's not like the patriots a plate necessarily bed at all those games of Redick scored 21 point 20 point 34 point. Like -- point total it's on down dramatically but you also remember a lot of those games. Use all mistakes by the colts translated its good points. By the New England Patriots if you go back to the first time the Tom Brady started at a belt gain which would -- rout of the Indianapolis Colts fox Europe. I think it was -- Ty Law and Otis Smith returned interceptions. For touched up somebody big place has been do we would be -- in the past -- it can't -- was called public Willie McGinest back we talk about the year that. -- 249 touchdown passes that lit up the Denver Broncos in the playoffs identical this snowy Foxboro and became -- field -- divisional playoffs 20 to three loss. So new England's defense. Has -- it is not only stifled a meeting at times it's taken some of their mistakes it translated it means that point. I think this'll be difficult time around it I think right now it's beat Indianapolis Colts who were obviously get a chance but. During the patriots are a little bit of the chase mode right now and even though that the perception is. That they are the best team in the league right now. I'm always big great believer cheap -- until thrown out is not the Super -- this is not the championship game it's got to play off game but. Obviously with my original premise which was. Cold when the superbowl so I think the -- need to win this game that they are going to go one it would superbowl."

[1:01:28]" Okay obviously there -- other games to be played this week I think you know most of them pale in comparison and a the magnitude of this soon but nevertheless since we do make a habit of talking about them I wanted to lose touch briefly in -- within the division. Miami has the week off this week which is probably good thing for them. Buffalo which is three and four there at home against Cincinnati which two and five in the bills at their halfway point. Have a chance to pull even here now aren't going to put buffalo in the word playoff in the same you know breath just yet but I think this is step in the right direction."

[1:02:01]" I think there's any question about it and you think of all the injuries that this team has gone through especially ordered decent and also the free agent departures they lost in the offseason with the the London Fletcher isn't that big Clement is -- course or second round pick pol pot pleasantly who got hurt after a pretty promising start so want they've really really been very double B -- go on with a lot of heart they've lost a couple heart breakers this year but. They came back last week one on the road to BJP husband again for everything that the Buffalo Bills are doing it's everything it's it's anything like not that we and that you gotta lake you gotta like buffalo here because I I just think they're playing a lot of emotion. And a lot of heart. And I'm not sure what's going on Cincinnati right now I think they look like a disheveled team with an unhappy wide receiver and a -- cents a just never seem to get any better cup."

[1:02:53]" Yeah definitely not any better. And as far as Washington play at the New York Jets can we just hope that that may -- the ground opens up in swallows them both."

[1:03:02]" I think the ground opened up for the Redskins last week captured this so they to marry them dig themselves out and so like you know probably the most interesting being in. In this game means is deceit which I'd like Pete Kendall -- and a I don't feel it it'll be -- jets he could way to -- out -- for whatever Ria -- about the Redskins. And -- a Redskins were you pretty humbled last week but the beauty or jets because -- don't Clinton this week before you know. They were tennis 16 Russia they already lost Morgan -- to take -- all last year there's a lot made of having to Clemens. -- a lot more should be made that a very very disappointing deep sense of unit that look like it was an up and comer the second half of last year and it's very. Pitted very very gifted big disappointment this year and al will be a big disappointment -- Jonathan Vilma for the rest of the season."

[1:03:52]" That's correct pretty intriguing game little and -- match up between Green Bay and Kansas City with this from being at Kansas City Chiefs. Maybe a bit of a surprise but in the overall scheme of things there up there at top of the AFC west right now on green basement with a big surprises of the NFC is this another shot for the Packers to prove."

[1:04:09]" There overall worth your. Well we'll listen you know the Packers are attended one team the last 11 games going back to last year. Pretty impressive -- stirred up -- they look like they were headed nowhere. I'd but there -- that was one of the five best place to be your election last week on Monday night. The touched up past the great genetic and their defense is really up and coming they got really good linebackers particularly -- better defensive lineman in college against an -- encampment but he what took about a coaching job Kansas City Chiefs for I would too. This year lifeless against the Texans like -- against the bears look like they were headed nowhere and now four wins in five games. And tied for the AFC west lead and keep in mind you know I'd go to raiders' search struggling for usual the last few years. They've already won at San Diego and at Oakland -- so with two road divisional games wins under their belt. Great start by Herman Edwards and his team this season very intriguing match up. You know. We big -- short week Monday night going on the road kid if he's coming off apply sometimes I think well works against Judah I'm kinda leaning toward the -- they would be achieved some along on department. Thus far back Super Bowl so one they have -- that a long time it you know is that number cut throat out last week about. Tom Brady Pete meaning being the first quarterback to be 31 teams will report beat Kansas City he'll join to join the clutter quarterback. To -- 31 different teams and I think I'd be a little toward the Packers here."

[1:05:41]" Okay to the games really actually don't look too bad one of them being Dallas Philadelphia on Sunday night. And you know the cowboys at six and one still to be at or near the top of the NFC the eagles I think during a must win situation them any hope of not -- catch in Dallas but may be thinking playoffs themselves."

[1:06:00]" I don't think there's any question about it you know -- you know delta lost one game this year that was to New England an -- conference game you know adults really hasn't gotten to the -- of their divisional split schedule yet they haven't lady eagles at all Wimbley the redskins' ability beat the giants an opening night. If so what Philly I agree with you -- this is. -- were -- to that they've already lost for the giants this year there was directed at home. On Monday night -- at week two they can't afford another divisional launch you know everybody get their division except that -- above 500. Today dug themselves quite a big old hole I don't last year they started strong. Midseason slump that finish strong but you know they don't look like they're distinct he'd put that position they scored most of their touched I think -- to score 13 touchdowns this year. Even came to the -- the winds of -- come. In the other six games this year so -- really extra but I producing palaces in many ways to score on Philadelphia they're expected to give Brian Dawkins practiced -- people who are but altitude made that much different kind of -- had doubts as number of recent years swept them last year but these are two totally different teams -- a year ago."

[1:07:08]" Write your game on Monday night the ESP and Monday night game Baltimore at Pittsburgh about two -- three weeks ago worth this will be in. An outstanding match open and end certainly run at their baby with. If the patriots colts won -- this would be one day I'm not so sure that the Baltimore stayed with Pittsburgh in this one."

[1:07:26]" Well what do be intriguing here's how Pittsburgh plays it what you saw it again last week you know the Steelers he'd be looked interstate -- they got really good Russian numbers but they're rushing numbers are really predicated by. Nailed a pass setting up of rock and Ben Roethlisberger. He is -- when they call X capability he didn't have it -- you're due to a lot of different things concussion appendectomy motorcycle accident tickle your picked and so -- but he really -- what they do -- forensic -- seven agree you're statistically but -- different style of football they did your stats is solid they have they have five guys in the just. Plowed through you wouldn't play power football so big levitating BDDP that later -- but early gains to really the passing game it's set that the running game will say this. The Steelers Russia were swept by the ravens for the first time ever. They were swept by the combined score 571 -- And him both games that Baltimore ravens. Really physically beat up at Roethlisberger and the Steelers and black shirt he saw that steeler team that was still you know even more so they're doing now. Really throwing to set up the -- they got away from what is bay -- of point franchise an and their identity you know recent years now this year. I -- said they're still doing -- they have a -- capable quarterback who you know they don't mind and body which was not the case flashier. I think the difference here is to help Pittsburgh -- to placate. -- much more aggressive -- that they had they had that they certainly were last year and I think people -- and really trying to attack Baltimore's offense which is really really struggled right. Little side note here Pittsburgh go back in 92 which would still towers for sure BC that gearing more. Have won 11 street Monday night games at all agree all -- he -- China on Monday night. At home so that streak. -- kind of bears watching you think it's assuming that continues this week yet I think it does I think I think the fact that this team was kind of embarrassed by the -- you know Pittsburgh started to its sixth last year right finished -- into both bitter losses were to the -- and I think that will play the minds of the veterans that were there. And I don't think he'd need to be physically but Lieber they've lost that home like she could read it -- 1631 the seven. They were physically push derailed by by Baltimore if you could still be you know you rarely see that with -- Pittsburg Steelers team. But I think they'll try to take advantage should be commitment --"

[1:09:57]" Russell I think that most fans are anticipating this weekend like few others during the course of the season. When talk about the NFL."

[1:10:05]" Allow that there's any question about it it's the biggest regular season game. I was kidding intimidation to doubt they would look at but it's it's actually a lot bigger than that it it's it's fun now because it really -- Become the preeminent rivalry in the league much like dallas' sisco what you remember take years ago we look forward to that -- do more than likely we're going to see them play twice a year right that's kinda what we've seen with the patriots colts now. Don't you go back 2530 you're up like whoever for the colts the patriots. When nobody knows nobody ever execute but it I don't you do god 1981. They report to fort sure sure they would 14 the colts that your beat the patriots an opening day loss 14 games in a row and beat the patriots the Latin beat them."

[1:10:51]" Yet a funny thing about -- I had an email or bring up the point you know can imagine these two teams still in the same division. Play each other twice a year and --"

[1:10:58]" Okay -- that we had different look while we -- effort the first two years there rivalry right with the program that caught the current right read in nine games -- right in 2001. And that those were there was of course the patriots for Super Bowl winning year bum. Again nice history with Brady made his first start of the cold. I always remember the game a couple weeks later. At the RCA deal which are we refer to the Big -- game. Which you prepared caught two touchdown passes rant for tocchet and threw a touchdown pass it would be be cold and -- 2001 at the RCA."

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[1:11:42]" Well that at the big keeping karaoke experience and the there's always good at that I was at decked him rustle up three seasons ago that was good that was that was dictated that game what I can't believe so. Absolutely that that made him Korean trio -- you know yet -- an old set they were five and five. After they lost -- career with -- daily al -- nice story. And it what it last night games in the superbowl Reagan often often run color part of David invisible he was knocked unconscious on the sidelines it touching the ball slipped the ball era in position you know. One of those first of many calls that seemed to go the patriots way. Yet -- and they've got by the way. David -- by the way haven't been nice little run into Warren was last to retreat but you know that's true definitely look like a bit -- by the way another retreat indeed as we -- at Portland. -- look like they're definitely headed in the right direction dominated state -- as sluggish start caught fire so really really treaty gave him the super slick. Russell as always it is appreciated we'll talk to next week and have go to work and it its next week there are -- a week actually -- is weekend we're going to -- I don't know the follow following week we're going to -- game -- stuff oh because you know we actually have to kind of off weeks. Leading up to the off week in the coming off of the off week. I think so are about a beat double jeopardy will play around yeah exactly. Play around -- that was that we can't work UN is some former fashion I told you -- concentration -- at at a but he could be our gene Raeburn. What like she did -- like he's -- called. Bill colony -- vastly underrated I think it's very underrated very smart very funny I would agree. We just bought in 93% of the audience and -- and now now we put a little. Match -- need to get their always brings him back there girls thrills. We're terribly excise Russell have a great week you -- politics we've got to carry everybody -- it's going to be a lot of fun yeah I agree with that thank you Russell Baxter."

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[1:18:20]" Earlier today here at Gillette stadium. We'll also get inside the patriots locker what you hear from a couple of the players who have their comments on preparing for the colts as well. Will wrap up the program today by that letting you listen into the conference call with colts head coach Tony Dungy which -- Com is rather poignant this week in light of the fact that we've had a lot of off the field stuff -- want with the patriots pitchers well and he directs comments toward that end so what you won't make up your own minds in the meantime. Emails continue and in Vermont says. You know I have to agree one of these pro football players get paid millions of dollars it would be fair to expect teams that will open their -- to just laid down. And stop whopping them. It's like high school or elementary school that is -- I really am sick of the winding. How come when Payton was breaking the touchdown record -- was -- up the score or the rams in 99. I personally love every minute score score and score some more and that he -- has been pretty good stopping the interest Gorham except two games really. And his patriots team must be taken his game pretty seriously considering the AFC conference lost. Can't be too far removed from their minds I expect another great game from Brady to continue his run at history. Thank you Andy. Brian it's August since nobody says pats will win 38 when he Ford will be a great game the past hopefully in the fourth quarter. This would come from Pete the old man of the mountains in New Hampshire and he goes in now for the running of the score stuff about what the world. And come down and kick your nanny but one of the things I was taught boot camp Bharatiya when you fight. You fight to see who gets stopped period. What could be more demeaning to probe -- and other teams say. Through their actions we felt sorry for years we let up. If you want to see how this story should have been covered check out two recent articles by Sally Jenkins of the Washington Post. There's a sweet irony in that it takes a woman to notice this stuff. Bill is Darth vader Tom is a baby faced assassin get over. Our decided to stop following football on the ballot -- Brady era -- it will never again the this good -- however continue to watch Christine Accra. The -- has some things here about the podcast don't work so what you need to direct that stuff to mr. -- he's the one that takes care of that stuff thank you ray says pat went by. 183826 just ask -- field goals and Vinatieri misses one. On this one comes from nick. Since a couple of notes I think two Tom -- Sally but anyway he says. I think the Bill Belichick as a genius -- maybe a little -- but it genius nevertheless I think we can all agree with that so he sees that he -- a team that no one will stop. And how do you keep that team motivated. He makes them the bad guys now they aren't that team no one talks about but the other classless team so. Gets the team focused on winning in the face of everyone openly -- is the same us against the world tactic he's used before seen from a different angle. -- of the the bill is getting them used -- not letting up some teams can't come back like the colts did in the AFC championship game. I can't believe how many of the ESPN experts are lining up with the colts. I'm not really that worried. Everything in the colts have played as either fraudulent team or were dealing with injuries when the game was played. Washington San Diego and Dallas are all better win than -- the colts have done so far. Denver is the best when they have. Nick in -- Davis's New England wins 483148 there are what's what you've been listening to little bit of -- patriots head coach Bill Belichick from earlier today here at Gillette stadium. We'll follow that up with a little ball play inside the patriots locker room and Tony Dungy still to come inside the play book but here is -- had put Bill Belichick from just short while ago yeah all big stories today it. A thread about this week. Or talk about it. This idea."

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[1:22:45]" You know I think we always like to get outside just -- Grass but. Does affects execution and muscular gets closed games. Good I -- of much. That's kind of the pressure on them. They'll do one of these days feminist -- for you know hopefully it'll it'll when crystal that each week. You know we try to simulate game conditions in practice -- of course not the same. Game of this. You know build up stamina on the reps on the reactions and all those things. Jose's further had this week than it was last week over expected to be further it next week then. And this week you know that type of thing you know that. Probably progress for a while he missed. All training camp in the first six weeks great seasons that a lot time hands off well practices and its whatever ten games potential game so. -- ludicrous little village where where they. Well -- again differences it's you know it's going to schedules progression or wrong. Like so I think each -- is -- better each we should build a better you know just move forward David it is right now it's. You know I don't worry about today where about tomorrow. Sounds good to everybody you have other good as many as we can have. Yeah it's always good -- come back. So obviously you always expect them. Of course this -- spirited games I'll say right now. Staying pretty -- board. I think terrorists or hard some guys are. Are limited some guys -- you know this is probably. -- hurt -- probably is the deepest we've gone into the season with a body isn't. We usually have them in -- before this so you know it Angolan here for. What this will be 13 straight games you know to some degree nine anyway you know plus pre season ones -- you know these guys were. In those days those weeks ago. I was brought -- we've gone on that."

[1:25:33]" Slots open really that you. I don't worry about it because you have to manager roster manager your team he really can't do anything about it. What are your options are so. That'll do -- the guys that are out or crowd the guys that are close -- with them you know again time the guys that are. Going to be there have been need to manage a little bit elements it's true though there."

[1:26:07]" Here you know."

[1:26:14]" What -- worry about -- game plan was worth it the look at it and it's really an -- every game is different so. But I don't make any difference what happened last week -- gone up against in this league that is that has its own style of play and very good. Good performance level there there there are special players that are our game plan for the there schemes they had their way of doing things and and never successful doing so that's really that we have to get ready for those on making a difference whether he does well the last two or three weeks or not trying to do well against this team in the way they will be home towns."

[1:26:55]" Bill Belichick from earlier today here at Gillette stadium in speaking directly to some of the injury issues and he feels about the team being in shape you know frankly. I think the pages have been fortunate to this point in time. I mean he is right the fact that normally the bye week is a little earlier than it is coming this week of this year at week nine I think it's great that if you can working out somewhere around the midway point of the season I think it certainly helps you more than it hurt you. But you know under previous years this team would definitely be considered you know team of walking wounded. I don't think that's quite the case if anything this team is getting healthier. Because -- welcome back Richard Seymour. You know an end you looked to be welcoming back Benjamin Watson so. I mean why would always coveted time there's never a bad time for why we unless of course maybe it's the first week of the year or very early that might not be a great time to have it. But I do think that having relatively good health. Knock on formica I think having role -- good health has definitely been a a factor for the patriots in terms of the overall performance this -- like anybody can have a problem with. How help with the event compared to other years this has been a fortunate season and maybe because of Renault all the years it's fair that the law of averages is finally pay at all just a little bit. It would concern. Jason and Boston since this note I must say I've never heard this guy Gregg easterbrook before it's -- article slamming the pats. And they're dominating successes is this is only -- Did anyone hear what this guy said before he went so for animal him. When we win this weekend will he be able to move on will he desperately cling to the only noteworthy thing he's written time for him to get some new material. I guess Jason we'll find out after all is said and done that will be the proven what he says past 38 colts point four. To be about the general consensus in terms of the final score pages in the upper 30s to 40s colts in the team you know mid to high 20s. Generally speaking. -- let's get inside the patriots locker room for him and this week we hear from Kevin -- we -- from Mike Vrabel and we here. And we hear from a Bayliss to promise as the patriots get set for the Indianapolis Colts."

[1:29:16]" and it feeling that that oh London at it and that became the and treatment every I'll get."

[1:29:24]" I'm actually where we're looking at a pretty realistically that you know it's going to be a matchup it's a big game. You know had put a lot into it this week to to try to get the open it up in preparation and then. You know go over there and play -- play in place that you know we have one minute and a little bit. And I play well. I mean as I think we certainly. Are aware of it and second have any bearing on. On this week's game I think it's when you look back at offseason certainly was disappointing to finish this season that way but. -- move forward we've. All worked on the offseason we've all started training camp horrible began the season with that really not in our minds I mean just one to get better and be a better football -- so certainly you know to start the offseason was tough to. To deal with but I think we've all we've all moved past and moved on that. They're trying to do the same things they did that -- we're trying to get where they are. Well I mean I think that at least I try to speak defensively. I think we're trying to play you know better team defense we were trying to get him but it football. You know a lot of the guys we we have back roster we welcome on the back but. You know he just had to continue to do things that they really that -- we can't try to play let somebody else and try to look at see what they did or. You -- look at see how other teams play with the -- we have to play the defense we know with the guys we have. --"

[1:31:02]" How much of that was."

[1:31:08]" I -- take any time that somebody makes a play more times than not other guys there ball so certainly anytime you -- assess commissioner pretty much free quarterback. There has to be some sort coverage element. I think on the one and the third one I think management in -- workable game obviously came in their. Drew a lot of attention and then I was able to come out there and then also. You know with the extra sexist. Just Asian routes and he did get the ball -- there. As far as the worst ball security field court and try to play if you have some awareness you know. It I mean I think he's a good tight and he -- on like most receivers and a you know this tournament now needling them in -- certain look for him to get all. I would say he's -- hates -- to guys and he's tough cover because he runs one runs good routes so are we doing I don't know I mean. Had good success against us. I mean I think a lot of times we play. Personnel wise whether it's three safeties whether it's five linebackers I mean. Safeties don't cover guys safety rushed outside linebackers rush cover so. In order to have a lot of different combinations on the field as we do that we can meet you look and see what we get three safeties it. Guys maybe play different positions get outside linebackers plan rushed out -- and what we're going to get guys will have -- So I meant buddies plays pretty good last year so obviously had a good season so far this year. His ability to to read his line and blocks cutting earnings jumped coding. You know ability in the -- it's pretty impressive so. It's going to be important for us to try to stay in there with them and not when you start dancing I mean those guys dancing tell a lot better we. Certainly good side I think that's the thing ACC holes aren't there creases in. -- wait cuts candidate -- well I think right now John I think it's it's it's that talk about that needs to continue to to play our schedule as presents itself choose to continue to build by going out there practice play well and and relief. Week 14 and start to look at say well you know here's were read at least you know I remember back to Pittsburgh. When we did have home field advantage wrapped up when you're a member bill you know kind of rested starters is built so we've really never got into that here as far as. Looking down -- the scene what what's going on so much remember when we have until that happens there which columnists so. It it."

[1:34:09]" Could -- pay more attention."

[1:34:16]" I mean I think I mean sometimes they do and sometimes -- don't mean when. When they do -- I don't get the ball and when they don't cover -- I get the ball so. You know you can only stuff so much TV Tucker they often. For the past and let us -- you know so and that I'm not run out there every time they score. I would always coverage before me -- thanks cast."

[1:34:45]" They -- them on the boat team -- it's pretty much the game and we found not only if there's. Exactly and what do they know it's like soap opera. Thereby go ahead of district court -- by if it's about the game but it will include and that's written them. It hell if you want to cause there that it is just too good teams you know well coast team that's capable -- to -- question that the two phenomenal quarterback you know putting a team game. Phenomenal position to win games the consistency. Us I think it would be -- you you know but I think last year against us the first game they gets when he thinks that -- so that's just hands down that. -- but he can watch. Just because. That was the achievement so you have in the back your mind at the same time that's not going to win the game -- mister Griffin we we both can lose too -- in the next two weeks that completes we don't know that that's just four on the what I think about -- you remember what it was like one at all. Of course you it would -- that that's not going to have it was going to have you win. Me blocking the lap record he blitzes of the human body in the first ballot for the ones that that's when when the game. -- and the body in the -- we have been right now. It -- here -- To us honestly believe me that's. Those -- just -- game one game at a time and now we go to you know what -- out when it's the winning these games that it ago. That's where I'll I'll. I really government would cut review talking. -- and our feet. That's if that people -- you win the -- We know we we know we wouldn't at football team that the -- we can't control what everybody else think about it publicly -- what we are. If I'm that they got -- they had a good person evil. Scenario it that's category yet he tosses to me. You've been his locker room hold -- you know very and they hit it this team doing that you know fought in the -- it's let's go and it's out and want to win games that's -- it."

[1:37:54]" yeah well how big it. How how big it is bigger threat from this next game is not be able the coach -- important you know the game that we played in Japan have that if the court. Together -- nobody's. Knicks -- has become curriculum I mean it -- it -- especially because it through undefeated team. The students fated thing you know as the next opponent before -- and champs you know and so they're undefeated and going and it went environment. That's six to me again on -- game. You name it. That is winnable it's horrible room great seasons -- on the court personally and so you know in the almost balls doesn't mean he's been involved. -- I dudack I don't know amendment or identity I don't do you know which is going to try to play little games and just assault took do. Among his government I mean he's the committee's I mean there agrees always going to record Taliban in Payton always throws the ball away from defender and has always done good so Clark is calorie receiver -- it's give this one of the things that we have a task and I am. What special problems. What kind of special problems. That's it. Opposite they run the ball well and the total of its own personal with two things they can do is run and throw. And so the present from both the run the ball well on and they also notable. Dolphins expect anything can keep more -- As you know has definitely censorship."

[1:39:57]" I don't activities."

[1:40:05]" That will be that. The kind of kind of -- but short and that you could kind of tell a little bit at the end that quite honestly I think there was Thomas was. Get a little testing was -- members of the media they use a little leery of interest of the same questions over and over again. So low on the I would worry nobody's listen anyway I would suggest that. And maybe that to these guys are ready to play football what do you think. I kind of got that impression anyway. Jerry in Rochester writes great show thanks to the crappy Internet at work of forced to listen the podcast is that of lives and usually -- behind. I just have a couple of quick comments the first is about running up the score. Just a backlash of playoff from the pads came back on the chargers in the second haven't lost an 18 point lead against the colts. There remember that do not want to let up to avoid having it happen again. One of the comedies that I am kinda tired of the who was better breeding Manny R are many arguments from both awesome why does one need to be better than the other. -- being pats and a preferably Brady's common like style remaining has Derek but let them have watched both. Great players. They did you and then -- and this one. Okay bully out for the -- in the season last year especially re watch in the AFC championship again on NFL network. I know -- is a great team defending champs blah blah blah. But you know. Damn recently called -- up passes still makes me choke on that there every time I see it this won't happen this time morality receivers people want to tie game but it really won't be. That's -- that's 41 colts 28 I was first in the past won't go 16 you know I'm starting to reconsider. -- would have him this week and Williams says I'm so glad to have some more to go to get all my patriot -- support it's difficult Mississippi. All these -- go pat thanks again wear him down in Hattiesburg,. Mississippi -- we're glad that you are -- we hope you stay with us each and every week where -- said playbook and also on patriots dot com radio two -- and that's that we've had generally speaking all of these. Predictions command be remiss -- give you my thoughts initially up of this should be really close game. Initially I thought that this -- be high scoring I still think it may be an I don't know why call it gut instinct. I I I think the patriots win and I don't think it's close. And I -- and I have complete utmost respect for the colts they are the champs and they probably should be favored it until the champs or -- an even if the patriots win on Sunday they're still the champs. And invariably the papers are going to end up facing the colts again at some point in time this season. So I'm not sure what a win this Sunday really means other than what I said was is that the winner gets a leg up on the other terms of home field advantage for the upcoming AFC playoffs and other. Couple months but. I think that you know until the patriots prove otherwise I think it's going to be very difficult for any defense out there to slow them down the colts may be able to do with a little bit of a prolonged offensive possession themselves. So to that in I'm going to take a little starch out of the patriot shirts but I'm gonna say patriots 34. COLT point. I just died -- happen to think that the patriots are going to click on all cylinders I think the patriots have something to prove. I think that because of that AFC championship game loss. Last year that I think that they have been driven as an organization as a staff as the player development personnel directors are they they went out specifically. To improve -- breakers team based on what we saw in the AFC championship game. Bringing -- a guy like Thomas defensively bringing in receivers like moss and Welker offensively and Stallworth. Specifically we need to get better because we have to beat this colts team is -- team -- And I think that's what they've done I think they're focused on that. And I think this game does mean a little bit more than your average neighborhood every day regular season game. Also at 342. We'll see Sunday we'll -- We'll wrap up today with them. Colts head coach Tony Dungy -- conference call with members of patriots media which -- called it the coach dungy did have a couple things to say doubles by issue when it transpired right after the start of the season and he does a little bit of or is it backpedaling ballistic sidestepping. This issue when he's at some point questions but you'd find it very interest in especially I never saw that when you get the full context of the questions and answers as the come down so. We want to hear from both sides of the story great week of -- product this week period thanks to you thanks to education staff Perot you know bringing in the of variety of book. Well opinions and stuff that you could hear instead applicable this week in saint -- times impact channel four you. Next Tuesday on what we recap the colts game and we'll look for to the second half of the season in the meantime we'll wrap up today with Tony Dungy. Of the defending Super Bowl champ --"

[1:45:13]" Afternoon the other ones. Well thank excited farther up"

[1:45:20]" NFL's coach -- against this team ready 16 times and theoretically there are people. But there's a we'd like isn't it like yes and them a matchup like this heightened -- at all and get everyone's against their best effort."

[1:45:35]" Sure it does and you have to balance that fine line because you do have to give up. The next week as well. And you can't make it like it's Super Bowl and you've got a week off for 12 weeks off between -- off season program you know after the game so you you have to get up you have to know the urgency of it and how well you're -- have deployed that -- big game like this but still it's that the regular season game and it got to keep them prospective."

[1:46:03]" From a -- mentality what's a more comfortable roll you better. Kinda cheesy in this series and and and have a chased."

[1:46:11]" Well I don't think it matters what -- tapes -- or been faith no one thing getting a little left. Public goes scrutiny -- media scrutiny it's pretty good you don't have as much in terms the distractions that way but in terms of trying to prepare whether. You know you've won the last here they've won the last year it's really all the -- you're looking at this -- payment -- see what that you can come up with a try to counteract that."

[1:46:40]" Coach with the changes the that's -- is pressure on offense does. The -- of the matter is that a whole new game plan and he Jeff these."

[1:46:48]" Well they're they're doing some things a little bit differently in the passing game especially but the running game as the saying men obviously did their mentality is offended they've got a few new people and got an abrupt. Special skill but it's it's not all that much different."

[1:47:07]" Certain feeling believe he beat them an extra special about that you beat them in the championship game at. The manner which didn't Philippines are inspired their off season acquisitions and maybe it's --"

[1:47:19]" I don't think so either I think everybody tries to improve this team at the end of the year we we try to improve Marti and we get some new guys that helped you know they got new guys that helped them so not sure what what that thought process well other than that -- system permanent thing."

[1:47:38]" What kind of look did you have in Tampa -- defense lost -- when they weren't in the same division"

[1:47:44]" not very good luck we split with them every year that it that I was there and he made a lot of big hit -- lot of big plays the phenomenal work you know at that time and he and Chris Carter with a focus the office and they got a lot of ball then now. You know what even when you haven't covered -- made big plays that was that was probably the frustrating thing."

[1:48:07]" We you know the only team in 98 feet and raises."

[1:48:10]" We did beat them in 98 doesn't get it went within one in the regular they."

[1:48:15]" Any do you remember anything you -- and"

[1:48:19]" no I remember him kits and a deep ball touchdown in the left corner of the end zone like at third in. That they either a table we knew the -- going the but the you know -- that day we ran the ball we kept away from them and and try to keep away from their offensive and try to limit their chances."

[1:48:39]" What is it -- in Jackson show you -- in the offseason last year that made you confident that they can take over the starting job from Harvard David."

[1:48:49]" Well you know they played a lot of football fourth in the Marlins had played a lot for two years Calvin played down the stretch. When nick harper got hurt you know Calvin became -- nickel back and yes we played most of way in the championship game and then played in the Super Bowl and they have practiced all year and and you feel like they're growing in there was. Really no -- in our mind they were -- that the step in."

[1:49:14]" I Jennings -- nickel back."

[1:49:17]" Did Kim -- the same type of player those two guys is that your behind them he. Probably where they weren't listed here and he's got more and more sense to play very competitive guy -- not real big net not as big marlon Kelvin but very very physical and tough and that we've got young guys Daunte used this I think -- right worked him well -- that's kind of our -- wanted to try to draft those guys that fit what to do it and break the men and the more they play the better they get."

[1:49:48]" I would tell -- where you -- to be the box obviously your old team but without so many key components will be presented -- him"

[1:49:57]" LA I think it did help but told him out but we grew in and -- certain regard him that we were able to win a big game with. New guys are different guys making contributions and that's what good things have to do. And I remember doing them when they went through this stretch on these in the Troy brown planned on defense they were losing guys -- they just. Came up with a way to win and I think really good thing to do this."

[1:50:23]" But helpful words do we go off for Marvin."

[1:50:27]" Com we know we'll find out this week we just felt like we weren't going to make any progress that we kept going in the direction we did enough hopefully he'll be ready to run that day and and we'll see how it goes."

[1:50:38]" It was -- Glenn surprisingly retirement probably wasn't something you plan how you go and."

[1:50:46]" Tony is doing well in the the thing about him but it doesn't really get rattled when he makes a mistake or something happened that it that we haven't gone over there's Luke -- and then make that adjustment to make corrections that that game meant I think he's going to -- very very good player as we go along he's very athletic and it's and what we do really well."

[1:51:06]" What does that patriots outside linebackers. Put pressure on your tackles and fast right here -- items."

[1:51:14]" Well all four vote and that that does the strength of what they do you know they've got some great individual -- but now they got five that they become they can all went on individual rushes you don't know what they're common and you can't say what we've got to block -- able going to be fine we've got to block Colvin. He's fine you know they all can come bill can create pressures so it it does stretch of protection -- be sharpened and on top of it and then. Not only know who blocked with the vehicle block which is stuff."

[1:51:45]" Tony how much there's a -- embracing the role of underdog in this game."

[1:51:51]" Well I don't know that and we embraced the role of favorite or or underdog I think we've been the favorites and option and known that doesn't guarantee that you win we've been underdog in some cases gauntlet with them once so I think what we are embracing is that that the focuses really on and grip that the go about our business and and I think that's been helpful or."

[1:52:14]" Seeing a lot of superbowl champs recently haven't been I take it -- turned a year after what's the key for you guys maintain your focus here. Your record."

[1:52:24]" Well we talked about it a little -- after we won the game and then the next couple -- then -- we didn't want to -- that that downturn that -- in -- that was -- veteran leadership -- with our players and one thing -- to Marv -- at the -- and I asked -- about going -- committed there would -- and I think -- you got to guard against -- try to do too -- you have the -- that. Hey we got to improve we've got to work harder. And other guys who played a lot of football. And and so you've yet to make sure that there have been ready to go so we -- rest up a little more in the off season started our. Offseason program later we try to go in the training camp lleyton and try to stay as fresh as we couldn't count on the players of the work hard and they've done a good. Well he had another. A weapon another personal guy that can. -- down lineman he can Russia can be people on the pass rush you can drop in the coverage an intercept passes so we just gotta give them another interchangeable parts. And -- is such a big guy in there you know. -- got an athletic linebacker but it is not a small athletic linebacker takes up a lot of space then and played with power is that you know added another cog really good core players."

[1:53:49]" Thank you just talk about the the two quarterbacks in this game certainly two of the best. This error."

[1:53:54]" I would have to say they are and a you know I didn't know much about either either guy when I came over today if they we hadn't played -- that much. And it's just been. Fun for made it work with Payton and see how you prepare it then and how he pushes himself to be better and and from talking to our guys. That are here from new England's Dan Klecko and and Adam. You know they talk about Tom sideways I think -- sent to very professional guys the top of their game that are in great systems that take advantage of what they can do so that that that the country get the deductible yes."

[1:54:33]" Tony logic says that in your office is likely to be completely shut -- you expecting to have to. Score in the 30s and kind of win a shootout type game"

[1:54:44]" you never know you know we. You know we headed. Real hot offensively we went in there when you're in the play -- was I think they've been appointed to the exit 20 that -- read something like that. We had trouble in getting going it you know I've. Now the Tampa we play the rams one year and two of them. Whatever what 11 and nine gamer fix them 116 and then the next year we played them at our place than it was 3835 but you never know how those games are going to go and they you know I know both the -- feel like they can slow the other -- down. But that -- that would happen."

[1:55:21]" We've all seen Bob Sanders making plays down boxes as the patriots. Receiving corps in any way you want to safeties aggressiveness down there and they can."

[1:55:32]" they can -- Spread the ball around really well. And they take advantage when years. Brings they did down in the box that give them one on one throws and then it got guys who can take advantage that the you have to -- open and play a little guessing game with them and yet bill a couple of those receivers outside from."

[1:55:52]" Tony pretty guys winning the Super -- last year they have been the perception that. Only teams of iron -- coaches couldn't win how gratifying was it to have your style about it."

[1:56:02]" Well I guess -- have more gratified that we won more than anything else but everybody had a different perception of what iron fisted remains and thank you want to be discipline that you want to have a team that doesn't beat themselves and doesn't have penalties and mistakes that the discipline on the -- field. And -- a lot of ways to get and I think we're pretty disciplined seeing but it but it looked. You know it nicest people. I think that there are different ways that you can do it different ways to win I think that's pretty good."

[1:56:34]" As Dallas Clark. Blossom this year."

[1:56:38]" Dallas has probably got more opportunities he's become a very good player he's become a guy who. Understand the whole offensive -- implement different but he's always -- for people inside but because -- beat out for a little bit about maybe moving around I think he has gotten more opportunities -- so people he's really capable."

[1:57:03]" Tony is a perception out there the patriots take any sort of controversy and we'll use that there advantage. At all concerned you've given -- accusations that have come about this -- of them running the scores."

[1:57:19]" Well I think most people tried everybody in the coach and I do you try to take everything that happened -- if you can. -- with the motivation for your guys that you're going to do that I don't think it in terms of this game you know we know how good they are and and you know when we played each -- the there all the big games in the usually pretty good game and I don't think. Anything that goes on outside the football field really -- that much effect."

[1:57:49]" Conversely and everybody seems in 19 the patriots as the best team in football continued use those to further motivate your your players or. -- motivated."

[1:58:01]" Now I think our motivation is to try to keep winning and stay in first place and you know it really doesn't matter -- and the year olerud and you know we. Beat Pittsburgh on Monday night a couple of years back and put 11 or 12 though when people were saying well that that's this"