PFW in Progress - 11/8/2007

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[1:01]" Football icon and well."

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[1:49]" here. Gillette stadium wanna buy -- week Thursday and a very lively group for you today with Indy atop the salad -- Murillo. Outside I've seen it. I haven't seen very many. Bunches this lifeless. In my day but this is oh lifeless crew that we have for PF WA progress what is well enough boat we got no food so we have no life problems clear. That is true on energy and fuel that going to have to work on that perished -- starts as he's known -- and some parts of of knowingly knowingly cable news now that's for the first he will be down. However for our number two when nick Aaron felt -- he'd best be bringing some food. But he -- you know but yesterday based on his performance yesterday that -- doesn't bring food I don't know what could happen just to recap the other 20 minutes so that Fred was so involved in his hunger forced induced stupor he claimed that the Super Bowl would not -- is going to ratings as the AFC championship game because everybody knows the outcome he also claimed that -- briefly. That the NFL didn't catch the patriots in -- me and and and change his mind about 35 seconds later. It's not a good good Portis short period for a for Fred. As Tom on right we did he talked him talks sense -- with the Super Bowl and I click on it Nen. Tom picked him up little bit later after the show what governments have been always right with the world. And today getting there at this morning we've really it was three -- Tom once again for 40 minutes where -- his hair cut that he found a new guy who uses the street -- your anger at the strategy is the straight -- you -- you don't go to. Today it anyway I've been done this to use the straight edge. -- there racers treated -- the old fashioned kind of -- open. Oh yeah skeptics -- they give you deal opens up straighter which is it -- any significant difference to you to do without it and with the regular -- clippers. -- that because -- parity of cleaner definitely does it matter to you as a man as a matter to you in good shape right. Who friend I've heard people say that those straight edge hot -- are really. Yet the greatest thing since sliced bread and I need to get one though. And one of those before and I it is although I was very uncomfortable time not trust but it is an extremely coaches but. To me. Not an out of body experience much like the hot towels on the plane. Those like not totally alike by those in you know they don't change my life 3 -- is -- little boost as were common in her landing anyway. That just some of the idiosyncrasies of one Fred parents. About a -- damage here it just like dig -- about priorities. I'm really -- tumbled about how -- who we've got some practice would you blood sugar right sorry just who -- was supposed to -- those -- work with -- ever going to. Whoever danger that does ideas we'll discuss -- it's a guy we had to have -- it was Scott Steve whatever was in the 50s it's just it's. Everybody knows that -- take my phone calls. I'm just to get -- some of the on news out of the way first sparrow was bit of action late late in the day yesterday -- patriots and have activated off of the Jackson boys Eddie Jackson Chad Jackson off of PP. I'm at the last possible day that they could do so they only needed to open one roster spot in Tom I'm very sorry to say disgraceful that to spot was. -- rooms it was a roster spot but it was never race control that's well that's a whisper in the system which owns its tantamount to a slap in the face well. I I don't know the word tantamount I was talks until wants oh okay exhibit and this is an attempt stepped into golf that's Kramer said it once that's all I -- the phrase. Well -- believe after his best performance I mean shutting down mccoll special teams they got. I imagine we have a practice squad later today yet that's it -- specialties. Acceptable -- touchdowns already this year but -- was -- and noble but off the top I just can't believe the popularity of the Schilling --"

[6:14]" We did you ratio and just you know. Talk about christmas gifts and have nothing to really talk about no emails no one called no one cared. Oh certainly go nine you know and I decided it demoted he had the most popular show on earth then. Just say is going to lead us today only so we're gonna go right to the phone calls right to be mr. on the in my time."

[6:37]" Next I was always like -- right in the audio or there was like a little glitch as you we're. Coming on that might have been meat kick my oh in it won't come out. -- who eat you know I want to -- Topeka that's good luck and should you be picketing somewhere. He's so -- steps are ever I averaged just that well I'm not pick. -- job job. I would have run production company. So you can you can green like my idea Bill Belichick and TV. Working on feeling that I did or about it for you I ever see that on TV I'm gonna hunt you down the."

[7:24]" There there's no way I'd make that movie without you got in okay so we got for I'm calling because somebody got to defend the lord Laurence Maroney a little -- I know you guys are actually killing him I appreciate that you're sort of make it tempered argument. But out there -- a lot of patriots spent force so governor guy I think people looked great when he's at a chances. I think the fact but he gets behind the light while true it's so unbelievably overblown it's so exaggerated. It's so much less this year than it was last here."

[7:59]" I will agree it's less this year than it was the end of last year I will agree with that. But I don't think it's exaggerated because I think it's holding him back in terms of making place."

[8:07]" Well don't you I think that last week obviously the first step is great second half obviously really not great but. At least to like think of those two run if it -- Maybe more than were offset ridiculously predictable shotgun draw out of that it went two way too often and."

[8:26]" Info long yards every time they do what I do I don't know I think that's double fault does. Yeah as usually productive with the play."

[8:35]" Well public to arguments that first of all I. Don't agree because it's and then there were times in the second -- it was -- and got stopped also. But I ordered the point is that there are generally good but he said the thinking that they're going to pass because pocket then there and so."

[8:52]" that I will grant you that knowing when Faulk as in the game they're not playing the run like they would be with -- in the game right I would say that Falk has been more. Productive with those draws that Maroney -- But I did I do think you're right that I think the defense is probably looking more pass and they're probably running that play more often against a nickel or dime defects than -- with Faulk -- they would would be with Maroney."

[9:16]" You think there's anyway that part of the reason the -- split carries of Maroney at the beginning of the year. I'm not trying to like fate early often and it's not his fault he's doing badly when he that badly it. It's on him obviously you think part of it is that belt sexson like I want to. -- him a little bit I want to preserve. Both of the running back toward more so than they're also I don't -- later in the year --"

[9:41]" you have to do that no one's worried statement Adrian Peterson in if you're good you're good you're and once saved Emmett Smith. He carried the past 700 times season and I must say generally that ms. Smith I'm to say it if you're already thinking about bad week one. That you should have draft the guy in the first round I kept going to talk to cut carpet sell it. I didn't like we said you know no I'm not called -- Abbas of the -- this point a little disappointed I keep waiting for of the tiebreak now he's on a -- he has not that we are talking this. He's okay and no insane he's been a -- believe me when not when -- we just you know we think you've been okay. But not great."

[10:22]" I I like it one more shot you up. Credit South Carolina needs somebody to step up -- statement."

[10:31]" Are you should know that's not all out here appear that it progress that you now have broken the first commandment in and Gary as -- right people and you up for that but. We going to take your emails all love this first our web radio patriots dot com again web radio at patriots dot com. They're coming in faster fears Tom and I am going to go to the first one pavano strikes you're near and dear to your heart it's from Clint Clint schools. Mourning the loss of -- venture I knew you would be upset about the loss of ray Tom knowing I can't afford -- for you in the guys I did the next best thing I could. I've -- all of our point for the pro bowl ball thank you condolences -- clip it's like to see the caliber of what's on the probable ballot. Law apparently he's the starting full level -- played all -- is going to go well for him to but yes. My biggest regret -- that ever had a chance to see. By an -- got that talk after his big eyes and sort of just a chance would have protected they act like -- premium practice it was a big week forum. But -- you were right assume that you saw on the plane news said that they QBs that will be off the roster next week you were under percent rate of those guys and in all seriousness that work hard. You know -- Not a ton of talent it is if -- those guys and I stone yet whether it's coaches anyone if you work hard and putting your time he'll give you -- little slump when he talked about -- last year at the press conference that was about -- glowing endorsement I've heard him give anybody. He he definitely takes a shine to the guys that work their way up from the bottom and they got to do all of those tasks on the way nothing is handed to them. So I definitely can see him back with the practice squad and who knows maybe back on the on the roster that some injuries and they need some help on special teams again and anybody watched inside the NFL last night HB OI always forget it so I watched a little of and I did not see this prize that PJ is talking about cases collins' -- said last night that no one would beat the patriots in the playoffs because you need to have. Speed Russians. But the patriots will be watering down the fields create bad field conditions. Peter's as I guess he didn't get the memo we didn't really -- I slide them more on college what is really got out of his way to sort of the last couple weeks saying how great the patriots like over the top he went on her psychology seems like -- went from -- really criticizing every little thing to all of sudden the last couple weeks going. Complete 180 the other way and and saying how great they aren't -- unbeatable in. You know I don't take that way anymore -- it was some degree assault and then I did the other it was a little bit like other on her pick in the cowboys exactly excited by it. I also wanted to get enough unfortunately I know Mike to come Padres here didn't see it. Has been the first time I ever saw anything on NFL network that competency but my prayer is officiating and I wanted to watch last night specifically for the patriots colts game and there was our boy Mike Pereira again as predicted. The NFL list it'll never made an incorrect call the Ellis Hobbs called he claimed was accurate. Because he said when the contact was made by -- to know what's initialed the replay it was definitely contact when that contact was made. Hobbes wasn't looking back for the ball so that means he'd come off. And wasn't looking for the ball before he deserved the flag which I think is a total load of crap and once again in the NFL. I think would be much better served just a minute from time to time when they make mistakes."

[14:00]" Yeah I agree in you know -- upstairs this is the exact reason why this cannot be -- fuel pool penalty because. My guess is if they would review one that based on what. Prayers says like the rule -- you can always take any rule that that's why don't that's why Pete the talk rule I think it was a fumble I think it was a fumble that they could take any rule it's technicality in LA is as Palestinians. So I think if they look at that review I think what is what is the probably ipso -- because I think that's the way that they look at these things that you confine game. Anyway you want and that's why I think -- needs to be 15 yard penalty so at least if it's that to keep tack call like I think that one was. It's not as damaging to a team and I just the whole thing about oh dragon receivers down prevent touchdown. Half the time with a balls in the -- defensive backs only go to where they are but what Randy moss goes up -- up for that pass against the -- he would I had no chance to bring him down before that that's -- they're so. I think that's little overblown -- that the but it used to that happens but don't you see that happen all the time anyway at a guy's really beaten badly why would you. They -- now it's."

[15:05]" Having given up a touchdown we should have a chance. I was have a few people out of written in about that -- want to get the some of those emails Bob is the first one. I supper -- on FL network equipment -- is -- was justified because he claimed that Artest what cut off Reggie Wayne while Wayne was looking back at the ball and Hodge was shot at the very moment of the initial contact. In my opinion the replay shows that it appears that Wayne. Well looking for the ball was angling his body toward ops and then puts his left hand on the left shoulder -- and then wraps his left hand around Hobbs has left elbow. As is going full speed toward the pylon and thus cannot prevent. Rubbing up against -- with his left double that he did not talk -- down or throw an off course in my opinion -- exceptional body control four per trade did not matter that a split second later -- did turn his head to look back at the ball. After the contact in supposedly did his job properly but Pereira also imply that -- point. Had not look back at the ball at the very moment of contact my odds that house would not have been flagged for pass interference -- session to the experts is if the hypothetically way if hypothetically Wayne wasn't looking back at the ball at the very moment -- cut him off. Why is that not passing affairs because wooden Hobbs have been impeding Wayne from getting to the general tiger at the ball anyway."

[16:24]" Nothing well I just think the idea is if he's looking back he's in the process of trying to make the catch. So he's established himself in that process I mean this is the fear I don't really buy it. But I think the theory they go way it is he's in the process of establishing himself making the catcher attempting to make the catch. I think that. Is the difference there whereas the rest of it he's just running down the field he's looking in the same direction Hobbs is so he can avoid Hobbs Hobbs and have to get out of his way that this this email goes on for a couple of days yes spread that little hand just -- just set while walking in shows there is no food here. We're very just."

[17:00]" Point you all right -- actually thought you might bring food because we are very worried about yesterday in Europe for Alabama senior hair combed ever. Okay what we get to another one -- Quincy also wanted to weigh in on the the Pereira to buckle in my opinion that's I would by the way. I'm sure you'll just the -- situation if you haven't already but after hearing his explanation regarding the PI column I was. I figure out who reminds me do you guys remember the Iraq invasion there was this half ass Iraqi military guy was dubbed Baghdad Bob. That's him. He used to hold press comments is in the streets of downtown Baghdad saying that everything was okay. There was no invasion in the if it was would regret the day they threatened the great empire for a although you look over -- the way you could see smoke billowing in the Garrett temple that's. -- just in my prayers. That is what my prayer is becoming to the NFL network is -- bogus explanation about obviously it was insulting even funny here. Is how we simply ignore the other awful calls of the crew did a great job. What is the point of the -- decides they're just going to insult the intelligence of the avid fan by asking you gonna believe us or you're lying eyes. Just do away with the whole segment that's nothing in the league look at what it is WW that's what I would say is not a problem. I don't have a problem with the segment if they want to have but should they have someone else doing it and not the guy who's really in charge because if you make the guys really in charge a laughingstock. It makes the officiating look worse in general I just don't understand why these leagues and the officials they'd they'd take it as such an affront. If you actually sit there and say hey. That's probably not the way we want about one to be called. It's probably the officials that would get all bent out of shape themselves because they have a bit -- boss on TV on the mile. To me they get paid decent money that to do the job and it's an important one and not once have they got the calls from purpose know -- question their integrity outside knowing when I was excited knowing Nomar. I just sometimes you make a mistake that was a mistake. You can't tell me that because house wasn't actually looking back for the ball at the time that he made contact about makes it a penalty. That doesn't make any sense so should they be able to admit their mistake you say you don't want your boss Colonia on TV should they be able to admit their own mister -- what I mean what I mean if you take if a player's perspective Tom Brady can stand up and say. Action from that pass it was in the double coverage it got picked. And it it was a mistake mission done social. Side judge field after the game saying I blew that call -- want to get some. A couple of different angles here Shane in Miami rights and he says he thought that the -- affairs and -- Was a horrible call however I think Mike Pereira explained it well on NFL network last night. He said that at the point the first contact Hobbs was not playing the ball and cut off Reggie Wayne's right to the ball. But the call was close of emperor made it sound -- really looked back the ball the same time he -- to win a close call could be called either way but does the punishment fit the crime. Giving up 50 question well wasn't that much it was only 40 on a question about -- feel is just too much of an advantage of the offense what about offense -- an appearance it's only a ten yard penalty no matter the circumstance. The whole spot of the penalty thing is just too much especially when the call is borderline do you think this could ever be changed. By the rules committee I we've talked about it every year when he official's comment I just don't think they have any interest in changing it appeared to I I agree I think the call was was bad and I I will say on that segment last night but I like the reason I like the segment. There were some things there that we're adjusting first of all on on the issue of the crew that that's gotten a lot of attention. If people keep saying it was a rookie through it wasn't a rookie crew. It was accurate throw to first but it's he's not a key to his first year being a -- for -- already. And did you know before they were a phrase that has nothing to do with all the calls. But -- you know the other guys you know they all -- a playoff referees last year. Four of the bent back crew was swear in the superbowl last year. And but it is the first year of the crew being together as a crew right. I think that's that's the case every and keep the crew on the I'm I don't go beyond that by. I I think that -- a mixed and matched every year -- my point is. But 'cause it's the guy in his first year as a refereed doesn't have anything to do with the guy 40 yards downfield on a bad pass offense penalty. And I think that -- perera was trying to point out even though he would even admit that it was a bad call but the open that was funny I told you guys about this but they they always show like to a three different plays in -- third one they showed. Was screened in Kansas City. And after look little screen -- dump off to. For -- are antsy and it looked like it may have gone backwards. The one off of his hand went back which he went chased it kicked out of town -- got called for a an illegal -- penalty. We went to review so they -- Corrected the call because the past actually went toward which negated that the kicking penalty but. Now the referees got over Fisher says they want to do and they called him for delay of game. And Pereira said about his flat out wrong they shouldn't have done that and -- I was it was refreshing to actually see you know it was a -- though it was a penalty called that was incorrect mind -- wasn't a judgment that was incorrect it was just bad. In the implementation of the rules base he said was wrong so. I take this I it has some merit to that that segment I just think that there will be better off. Just kinda once in awhile saying hey you know what that's not the way we wanted to call by Freddy you just going to sit back there make all kinds of -- are you going to join us feel."

[22:32]" Noise when he talked about Helen and I issuing just hinged doors. Slam of the refrigerator agent waters -- old. Opening packages waters out to make -- a diets really. Rocket your -- on him making a lot of no attack there are you going to participate in the show are not. I had I just Ferrero last night I didn't see I heard of Baghdad Bob as one of -- you know -- description I agree. Don't worry about it the NFL got it right you know I guess 11 you know it's it's one thing. You know. If that was the colts fan I would say and they got that -- call right but there was a lot of I would I would not physical span I wouldn't say -- how lucky I might you know by the -- and I am very different opinion stands are. I can't tell you how many times that on -- saying what -- terrible call when it went our way I've done it both ways. But why why does being a fan make you now I don't golfing. The other team to be a patriot fan means you can't be a football they execute. I'm just Yukio -- this -- like they -- just terrible call sort of thing last 9 Fred and I am right about this before about Wes Welker. They showed up in last night at bank on that inside the NFL ball Green Bay. And lambeau field and the fans in. You know mid season ticket holders since 1970 in public company and they have their tickets there on the waiting with 70000. Strong or whatever and that makes them great fans I don't think that makes -- great fans and those kind of those those poor -- have been on the waiting -- the team to stop. What did you not by the tickets give the team incentive to get better now they're they're pretty good okay but like throughout the 80s they stopped at the 70s -- style but I don't and 70000 people wait until lineup to get tickets just because no incentive to get better just because you show how you're feel differently you don't credit -- every once shows it differently now I utley five point. I mean Drew good -- is what I -- doesn't mean Europe that they -- I didn't say to him why does it -- were good stand I also give them what you Chris I think. I think bruins' Ryan Clement. Exclusive to the other latest but if you watch supplement PD that's an obvious bad all private matter what team B it's usually just -- god -- that's all right I'm just say and that one particular -- calls in a Pereira. Explains it is hot -- if you look at his explanation right that's not saying it. I that was a bad well overall I mean that game was so full of that calls you can't you know let those rats that wrecking squad off the -- it would have a bad calls. The monster -- non calls bad calls you know what like which ones the moss in the end zone. The one eating call on -- I thought that was questionable call. That that not that they acquitted of the inception of beating get -- the other one where they called on Moscow for the off -- that that's there I thought that was a bad -- Okay but I I've seen it called every -- guys are called again it was quite the -- a good -- point -- And doesn't matter what I'm rooting for ominous when a call comes up. There's there's to to a difference is that bad car right so fine but you don't you think that the rest -- bad job -- that -- Kamal not nearly as bad as they made out to be okay it I think it is same as every other week. They stick the reason the Sox are you free every game this fall back call assets like that game ones yes I think his game to. Watch the games that because if I I -- myself. Frustrated I would never turn on the TV honestly have never seen me at a game because these these -- the standout is the top -- him relax every single game because I'm always hot and bothered about bad -- and I. See you ice skating game I didn't see me do that what's awhile to you kidding me. If every officiating on following single game if if every game was like Sunday's game you'd -- It now because your blood pressure you'd you'd you'd -- would explode while I'd just gotten used to in the days and I watches because unlike a lot of the people I don't think it's a conspiracy I don't I don't think it's anything intentional I just think it's blatant problem delight but I don't think that. Every game is as bad as Sunday's game I think it's not I think officiating -- batted in the lead even a big hit. Agree I don't know if you're gonna take his side and I as usual brilliant what I do I think. Official said he -- officiating has gotten watered down with coaches and quarterbacks and there's not enough to go around for every game and you see some really bad call some on occasion but not right not as egregiously as on Sunday but I. Did you it was at one Oliver Nassau and Garrity had the cowboys game was pretty bad and -- but it was ridiculously magnified because no one cares if there's bad -- and the patriots -- up 50 to seven against the Redskins right -- airing games that matter against the cowboys in Puerto. Now if I'm if I'm not Seattle Seahawks fan I go back to the super ball that I lost the Pittsburgh and to me that's the game that. Had the worst calls but Paul what do you think about that game I think it's much like -- the other games that we're talking about I think pat calls in every game. That is not. A lot this stage it's the stage the colts and patriots play. Yes they they ended up being good or bad calls because of the importance of -- all the Dallas game -- an opponent -- 17 point -- 20. Whatever point was finals where acting when he won -- you know it at the end once at their saint while it was a really tough a pass -- the fans called in made. On that -- in and and -- the -- did much in the way. -- what are you going to complain about they lost by 211 point you know it's -- thought it was a four point it and it's a tough game I mean basketball is I think almost even tougher than football I think that's one of the toughest games -- but I think going back to football I think that overall it's I'd give. I give ref -- 80. If you know -- from you know zero to one manager I give them 80% good 20% that idea. Just so good some bad sum game what is that policy issues. I've had to implement a grade so that's right at B minus yep out of the mines. And I would Alou well and excite -- went on average there's more bad calls and they should be. I think there's a bad pass interference call every single at bat I mean that's not that's what you look at for -- at at a sporting event where the rest are exposed to have. You know be effective disposed of the out there but -- on a scale of one to ten I would not give eliminate now he -- his son and a seven. I sixes sevens I think -- pass interference call in every single game. And -- as just one exit what you know what I think that they do the worst at Fred spotting the football. Very arbitrary all the part of that is it only matters when it matters right when it like it -- now they just put down at times like a first down play in a guy gets like nine yards and you lookin' like she's you know produced two yards beyond stay right and went Hairston at second one and the same plane back to -- whenever people start noticing that. It's very good but it. Downplay -- but even that. To -- magnify it when they make the same bad calls often early in the game Monroe that's relevant -- that's my point that's my point about. The official as the plot with the whole cyst I think we walked in off penalties of their -- I don't understand and I wish striding anything out of football field there's markers on it used the markers. But the ball's not always on a market that's why but it's always relative to a marker but might might and I don't see it -- just so I attended should be just before. Sister that's ten yeah it's stretched out put the ball at the end of the strike but -- sport that everything comes down to such fine night. Instant replay view that commercially show on TV with the 2. There's so many things -- that level just out there the spot the ball it to so -- that and I finally I think that they get a first bank to better. I know. What everybody you can well Sam -- stopped coming. National television telling me that the officiating gets every call right. Gimme some incentive to make these guys to better job. But that's body ball because that's not where that guy's head it's where the ball -- when the first thing that touches the ground -- I just teach one. It's -- How they come up with that. They don't even. We asked them next step coming out of -- here when -- got to get to the phones because Chris has been waiting in the --"

[30:49]" And you know you don't want to wait around till christmas but I am sorry about that problem and you get paid and food. Yeah but did you artists and that's who they dissent has put this weekend not responsibility and listener I say send it again -- Which could raise the tickets and it twice in a week that would be above and beyond no question -- bias related to -- next -- right now with billion even have a conscience I don't."

[31:20]" Just in the little bit about the officiating that this thing that you guys that are members. Fans are going to look at oh differently well except for Fred but it's. And -- to put it well when he was talking about the and I stumbled cost all once who rule of explain possibly in my oh yes here as if I was going forward it's not a -- it would."

[31:46]" Look at that play until I die and I you know Fred you notice you know that it that was long before anything you know happens. I'll look at that play till I die stats fall. And when I asked the referee the next summer and he said yeah that's fumble after a much needed to know. -- that's one of those things it didn't I didn't want the patriots to win it didn't matter that you know. We were excited you know beyond belief that that the patriots have won the Super -- after that. In my mind I thought that play it was a fumble Indian Sioux City, Iowa by the -- who always emails and he contributes obviously huge patriots and he said yeah. That's a fumble you give them doesn't take that tuck rule."

[32:27]" But at the patriots got the call they won the rule. It was a bad call a similar stuff with him upgrades that yet let me ask you question. You -- you can't say you're watching a game and say Ellis Hobbs is tackle somebody. And don't throw a flag. I'm sorry if it. -- Ellis Hobbs just tackle somebody they'd be within five yards to do them -- and produce it's terrible while that was pass interference yeah. Oh yeah and it it would it would yeah but once -- don't that they keep their appetites and many titles on. I said many ties with policy that's that's ridiculous that. The refs have been back on both sides it's pretty good at bat like that Samuel one he never claimed was in the penalty on Sunday you know -- his arm I will give you that. You up pretty decent level constantly have a whole bungee -- Yeah ask the guy is Gil doesn't think they take defensive signals -- the what's the -- Treacherous."

[33:23]" Here's what since you guys are there what's the mood an answer that happening get off this week but but what what do you see happen. Next week and is that they're going to be ready for the second half."

[33:34]" I mean yeah I you know that obviously they're not here now he'll be able mine extended break here they wanted to until Monday. I don't see any of this team looks to me to be very very focused. And very determined if you know what happened kind of there's. If -- like maybe they'll get so we'll sneak up -- is that would be the -- they would have to lose but that he took the sneak up games the jets it's going to speak up ground that it offered to locals pop but all of them. We've even. They might not be focused nor -- pretty focused sport so. I was dolce. That is the only chance -- and that's colon a biweekly I get that extra week of preparation and don't you know if that was right after the colts game okay maybe but. I just don't see -- chance without even being down for a game and then at the bills even if you think they could catcher might just look at this offense and you catch him for 58 minutes and all the sudden they put up both of 50 yard moss bonds and point -- it would have to be stumbling around yeah Ottawa you know what I mean one of those but I don't think the bills have the horses to go up 21 points enough to you know any late I think they can score two touchdowns -- Yeah we we escaped that one. -- respect -- for the."

[34:43]" Generous offer to -- food again obviously that is not necessary and it looks like -- potentially in for next week it's likely to have somebody. Hogan a supple we got -- already talked to a Gary Wright frank. I -- right we'd -- frank I don't frank is in Britain's -- Toronto. Rhetoric he checked out yeah two different property doesn't -- so he wants touchdowns trio which when he should be -- order north street which is nice under his answering any -- the details like you know not -- Tom sandwich yes make sure they. -- that's for that and yeah -- I go to when they meet you know what I did. I didn't chicken in his -- and I think it's taken arm. I'll pick a different it still is ridiculous but that's okay the -- and he actually well frank thank you an advance and when let's say let's get somebody's war that did -- in Sioux City, Iowa as a mid season notes I'm going to get to a that you guys. Impressions of -- some comments would would someone please tell Ellis -- at Iowa State sucks and he should quit wearing it was ugly colors they have won twice this season. I was completely wrong of -- and we obviously need to find a way to keep in the New England I don't remember ever saying while so many times -- once he's now after a wide receiver catch. Please keep number 81 Welker is more than just the nice for the -- The patriots win keeps the colts patriots rivalry. Real because a real rivaling rivalry needs both teams to win once. Suck Yankees out all the controversy with the crowd noise penalties handshakes it just makes it all that much more adjusting and fun to be part of -- bleed and if you guys with the Steelers would beat the patriots at home. We'll really not a must do except Randy we have always had a number will kick their butt again I think that their number I think it is the history of the steeler little bit."

[36:40]" Remember was the Halloween day decimation failures -- wants what happened to tell us. It was a Halloween day decimation is this in the playoffs -- my leisure regular season -- timing like the last. I didn't want to patriots have dominated that is dominated that series -- the at the the Steelers dumb ideas into regular -- just looked at a time. Regular season I'm not -- they can win in the playoffs it's exciting season the patriots have beaten them. More than it has beaten the patriots what we get that 23 to one who killed bonds anyway on -- how -- how many you -- patriots 320. Pittsburgh 127 patriots are -- AFC championship today that regular season they don't it's usually a team 30 to I would like you to. Apples to apples not. Apples are all regular season 2002 while they -- that way because it's different team every years so he can't compare anything apples and on Chiming in -- now where -- are totally talking about been invited to. And white he was checked it -- it airtalk home -- the Barbara take a mess so here. If you don't get that one too often gets out of his caddie looks like he still has the top down even though it's not a convertible. Anyway and it takes the only -- just jealous because if he ever grew and Aaron it's heady look like it the old one yeah ice -- echo I get angry when he gets much longer than it is right now. -- due respect to the person it was kinda like just try to get homework done. What we're not in the business of doing all the hard work I'll help he's looking for some interview with a trainer and stuff that I can you know they've gone so are there not even here I don't mean to directors -- I'm not here to do -- but the trainers here. With a training the people who are injured treatment Eric Alexander absolutely I think they're on did you check the parking lot out at all. That was a lot incarcerate and coaches. Are here they're here going to -- players are here are going to get back to the phones and continue that a fascinating. Argument when unionized or is there are people that read there's no that I Nelson has inking New Hampshire I'll tell you Nelson"

[38:49]" known for just took time to smart along let -- as a few weeks -- actually in the now I just -- and yeah Ali act -- many -- many singles to eat we -- maybe I I just pulled a buddy of mine who actually. Intern for the agent this past -- there really. Yet you he's physical trainer even down there for the training camp then see here now. Now -- training room let's not he's got us all the media chargers game not audio and I get another call in that in -- yet to do the playoffs."

[39:31]" I'll tell him to just call -- They can embroidered actually don't tell me give us a call respectable women it is employment here with patriots."

[39:39]" Era well I just want them mention something real quick I know it but yesterday were talking about how the suitable what going to be as as watched as."

[39:50]" I said no I didn't and number repeat it will not be the highest rated Super Bowl I would just sit yes -- an AFC title game I'm going back up now. All right."

[40:00]" You know I I'd build the more thought about the more it that you know with last year's Super Bowl it was kind of like he'd given that the colts are going to be compared. And I it may need picnic comical want to think of watching that game but it's -- like a train crashes like eat you got a lot to be. You know just taping my ask anything right and you know even now on the LP name Michael ago an injury that baker can't begging you don't play -- literally."

[40:25]" My friend but seriously people who hate the patriots and rooting for them right chosen not break the record they're hoping -- Heisman moment I feel like -- what they've never seen. So think that the media is that a very good job this year I think the media is that a very good job this -- of turning people off of the patriot settlement of stuff like this -- of why I like the point you made about anything could happen. If you're a football -- You cannot miss that it's like that's child that you say anything could happen. You could feel like you could see a 52 to 50 games maybe you could see overtime game for two while abuse you never know what's going to happen and you have to see there's only one per year there's only 42 of them that's why they make these big -- series that includes all the balls people want to know what happened to throw that's -- wells -- more highly rated than others and -- though it's generally goes up no. The population I don't think so. Generally it's been going up up up checked the -- has been -- there are down but it's been general in general going up. But he is right about like the Steelers in the cowboy right like the of their arsenal. Some at a bigger than just a -- feet or so right now are of greatest ever and I say it will not be a lot of the time to rest -- super ovals right. And it'll just be like that this greatest ever this year in four years old gets a pass I just don't see if the argument that they're undefeated. I don't see why you've big people who are going to be interested in the because I think if they're undefeated in the book in my mind will be the highest actually 21 ever. I just think that the -- pages I think there's a lot of people -- at 8 -- to the point of this sick of us and they don't know what to. I don't know what we're gonna win -- used to say Fred that the patriots beat the people that don't like the patriots -- football people some of them are okay so what would you say that Super Bowl all football people watch the superbowl -- would -- to get to get one person who doesn't like the patriots who likes football to not watch the superbowl because it's not a good one person well."

[42:22]" But that's Atlanta go back the whole thing with last year like you know armed. You know I I respect the called today and I appreciate everything they've done for you know football they need you know the AFC. You know -- lead the dominant you know conference now but. I mean but I didn't really want to watch that game I mean I I totally you know I'm not I'm going to we have -- hater. But you know -- and I didn't like the fact that the COLT would be in the pat and they are going to the ball but again. Because I didn't like Nicole -- mean that I want to get -- well I still had that interest in. And just being you know what could happen any sure all the tickets haters out there that Polly want a -- patriots lose it's it's at the very least."

[43:00]" Read the whole day it's -- of that yeah. Are there you E and you watch again -- commercials I mean everyone watches the commercial -- and good in five years. If only I cannot fall back on is it's the Super Bowl Lenny do you think that I am saying. No idea I think this is the most ridiculous argument you everything -- got -- if the patriots -- it's not going to be the highest rated Super Bowl ever but that's not what you were saying yes that's what I'm saying now. Perhaps not and that's not my argue my argument is that their undefeated I think he'll be Heisman to the I say even if they're undefeated it will not ready I don't -- at the back okay well fine art and I. I think hopefully now we appreciate it."

[43:40]" And it. Highest ever I -- animal should be highest ever I just thought it. What I disagree with -- if you watch that the undefeated because people don't like the patriots up. People going to watch history they're going to watch to see if they can do while I get emails from Nazi hatred 80% just been voting against them I think I've written that I can patriot band that you -- people were sick of the bills well I'm they would into the Super -- I sat there I watched that game knowing 1000% they could not compete he did they were -- rival. I -- the way some people hate the page well I did now people hate the ice and get back there they played their best teams in the short run yes. What to what we always say is good for Major League Baseball and what's bad Yankees in good is there any team. More hated in the world in the Yankees now at everybody watches order of the World Series why can they want to see -- against -- Which is why don't what was -- what was the game that was a football game on the set there was a Monday night game you guys all came in talked about the money that was the Dallas buffalo game when -- through all the interceptions. And you guys are what did you see that instant it. I was watching Cleveland in the yankees' short against the Yankees have like I'm so they must in the country was doing to people. Hate that team just like they do with the patriots right now I agree with you I just think it's a new kind of hate now it's it's not just of."

[45:09]" Is it -- any -- hates the Yankees because they were good it's not like you know the Yankees. Admit -- a lot more than what his status it's not a spy. Yeah it's the players they do well this -- and like that Steinbrenner has pitched this corporate. Better than you image that they portray -- outlets that you've picked. I did not allowed to have mustache but he just -- wake up yesterday actually -- out what he'd like to make plays and they are the reasons that the media and people are being given to hate the patriots go well beyond they're good and they always beat us it's well being good just like the Yankees it goes well. I think -- Sox don't have anywhere near the level of hatred that the Yankees do that's correct. -- is as the Yankees just recently. And I still think they'll -- the dominant things out keeping it everything to -- just the whole thing is all lumped in the one Randy moss at right take everything you put one ball on the Super Bowl undefeated everyone's -- want to see if they can do what the people don't think they deserve it could lead -- against them that's what I think what's lost in this is who cares whether hated or not we can argue about that. That's a different separate argument but I issue is what Thomas talked about with people like Howard Stern or Tom himself. Like them or hate him you're listening to you want to see what he's going to say next while the money the patriots you want to lobbyist and you might be right but I just had this gut feeling that this could be enough percentage and I granted. Everywhere it's gonna watch -- who blows interest in football but there's always that. Poor people let you know they could care one way or the other it's -- going to -- for -- like Tom says I think in -- to get the picture -- Watching an undefeated team is that extra little slump I think that I think enough of them that as -- I know the pitcher's gonna win and they're not going to watch. What are -- going to. -- the 40 niners to win all their Super Bowl Adams the watch Mike isn't part of us -- some some Super -- are rated it higher than others -- his reasons for that Mike is tantalizing thought the same rate I feel like he knows some and I think this is one of those lies where somebody told him it's not going to be -- making -- the same argument tomorrow and I would just -- Well I guess we're not talking internationally as they don't know what the -- a year telling you honestly don't know it's the same that it only get a pitch I'd gotten -- technicality. I don't know I never know what he knows. I would in my. I -- I would have been surprised that there is movement of of patriot haters at state boycott the superbowl -- may even get hated it and everybody. -- Mike -- Mike is the beach Florida a very good job of turning that country affects my Mike is in Florida and he agrees with that Tommy Indian in me. If the cowboys by the patriots in the superbowl especially it will be an audience Everett as a watch well that yet you can predict how are going to get screwed if the cowboys make because he's going to use that as an -- I don't care he could put that up before he didn't schools"

[48:00]" glitzy to be fair to handle those patriots let's be fair to -- This is Josh and onto Virginia former email over the week -- may 16 2007. I think our competitors let's get he says the patriots are six and 12 against the Steelers all time in the regular season I still don't think they can beat their mission specialist Josh. We're talking only Hingis but no I think as one of those six wins is coming the last ten years. But you know there was -- in the 70s I guess in some of those wins might happen let's see -- stop it they say was day arguing. It has a talking about officiating for the last few days stop it beat the crap out of these teams and taken -- out of their hands listen whether you like it or not it is a good team give them credit I love my -- But officiating doesn't make me cry and want to stop -- have confidence in the pats in the rest we'll take care of itself. Great on the most -- multiple defense he's really not the one -- because he thinks they stink at every game I do. I've got it on the field that are whining at the yes."

[49:04]" Let's see given arrest Paul says Josh I again former E Miller of the week for -- 62000 it's not just the stage of the game is on as much as it's the severity of the consequences of the ball blown calls given rubble -- TD. -- know it's not enough crawling into the hands on the superbowl. After being down a terrible call -- a whole lot worse than the average -- missed holding call. What we and all calls are not all bad calls not the same. They basically you're agreeing with me if it's it's it's a bigger stage it's the worst call. An -- situation I guess that calls or not just the stage sometimes as laughable calls -- just laughable calls. Sunday's game was extra but what do you but McCall gets more attention this Roethlisberger -- that -- pass interference and Seattle in the superbowl elected Vinny Testaverde one. When he was about eight yards short it's -- the end zone and both and in the united they actually on hold right. I think the worst call I've ever seen -- the jets' plan against. The -- Testaverde -- Seattle. I do that. And missed just football subscribe to -- and not asking you artifacts of the play aren't relevant it's the play it's not who'd be who was likeable I mean obviously it's a memory -- a lot of a lot of guy that was his reputation -- that for the bringing back -- bottle and sit -- back -- being -- a lot -- for actually -- the -- to -- replay it back but it's not nearly -- of -- one of them blown calls in football history I don't know. Dependable -- and one of the examples of long. Absolutely a technically could pick one from any game you want I agree with Paul because the worst call I ever saw was when Ditka coached the saints are playing Tampa Bay. And there over the past they called complete they went to review. It could challenged and you saw the ball I mean this was. Blake case of the ball bounced off the ground up the error that I would -- all be overturned they still quality catch about the Bert -- catch in the NFC chipped it how about the one where they actually said we blow with the giants game at the end of the season remember was on the special teams play yet -- on via via. And the league actually apologized afterwards but -- late thanks. Well I'm saying thanks for the apologize afterwards but you know that was left -- oh okay play of early -- remember. Yeah but plants that I would talk about it in my opinion that"

[51:40]" let's see we got -- TJ here thanks for letting -- rants on this ought to be good one last thing on the replay of the NFL and last night they had a good footage of the handshake it into the game. We know he's pissed he should be but Phoebe could cool it with the venom especially against dungy somebody who plays but then. It's the aged patient to patient and I know they -- neither -- that happen. I steered Adam that's -- ideas what did he do I didn't see nothing they've both had serious looks on their face dungy at the same right relative to go smile. You know point they don't like each other that we know they know -- right there I'd get a -- pretending and I thought and it. I -- showed his distinct but until the doesn't let him he doesn't like done -- good West Indies team just blew a ten point lead -- you can't expect it to be happy -- to -- anybody anything out of the ordinary athletes. About I've gotten many emails all he snubbed them I got a call from my wife as soon as we are on the boss well what was that all about in the post game handshake and that's why would happen. And she described it and then I went home watched and it really wasn't what she saw with her eyes it was like it was like you -- analysts are something different I think people are waiting disease like all -- I don't wading in Korea and it's not really there I was going to go back the phone fault lines the phone banks is over which they salt does in Orlando salt. It that's always difficult by the way where we were custom -- why is Saltalamacchia salt."

[53:07]" All he really want to know it's quick story black girlfriend and my friends are excited -- they called me on the caller ever. -- and work very. So is extremely -- staged a one touch on that story started but it was a I it doesn't talking in a couple weeks ago last week about. Mike per we things Ortiz you know they can rest can do it over. Yeah I mean real like does the talking about the because I'm watching him. Proper on the Internet and Mike -- talking about that Ellis Hobbs after the appearance last week right night. And he's he's going over this any popular vote quiet atmosphere and he could barely show about Romo why it's about an appearance. Because when he touched a left of the point of first contacted -- wasn't all the way around right what you could. Barely I mean with the with the naked -- you probably wouldn't even have been able to tell that way."

[54:10]" They break those down frame by frame and find any out they can grasp on to to say why it was a good call and not admit they made every aspect of -- We wish I guess yeah about him what were your way we have well I think what a man you know one or email -- at best he's been sniffing his own depends too long."

[54:30]" Well from the best you have ever watch a football -- what she's been saying. Hey he's just mad because someone's going to beat his record and he wants an excuse now."

[54:39]" Well that's that's what you tell me what comes to tell about what they didn't -- the court. I did on the -- so you'd. That's a great story so it was in Florida in Orlando Oakland without I just it was a joke -- yeah. I I that like that you."

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[55:08]" The quick start for -- black. -- house like it was like that he male friend read once that he shouldn't read hey we got a couple emails about this -- wanted to get into it a little bit. Mike and Florida's asking about the coin toss you know that was like the referee I accidentally dropped -- they did full of the -- Bruschi was element of doubt while I shoot out on the referee hit his arm as he was a ball to us. Flip the coin it is on Mark."

[55:35]" And it he'd drop the point. And put that again of course Bruschi had screamed at him like he discussed patriots game because that's -- But there was like a reef flip of the coin that. I don't do you think -- was into that credit I don't I didn't know what was going on out -- just the Bruschi was all of Adam he told in the do his job about a hundred times -- which might explain why you guys are all complain about the -- I don't get away so religious that was less than you made a play do yours we expect with his ability to protect. We have a couple of calls about one so has -- didn't"

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[59:38]" Welcome back if W progress. All of I have switched seats that we go right into the now we got a lot of emails that we have a ton of emails earlier a lot of people were talking about the officiating stuff that's in. Talked about this Jackson's being activated Chad Jackson Eddie Jackson and we talk about that much when it was couple emails I wanted to get too -- every -- little side rant about them the superbowl."

[1:00:00]" Which won the Jackson give us an email about the jacksons as an excuse talk about but why. Chad Jackson chatted Eddie Jackson were activated yet I don't there's nothing on here that says Chad Jackson -- Jackson a case of we just talked about it. I do think why. How what's going on about defensive -- I think Chad Jackson kids you know you know to where he talked about having Chad Jackson can be a part of this offense. Possibly down stretch now I don't think it's going to be a major part okay picture Miami Dolphins fourth quarter Randy moss -- has touched and the take him out Chad Jackson comes in. They go deep he makes if you don't talk about part of the now on -- I'm talking about as a major insurance policy if -- Hamas were -- Landry is always at this point of making big plays that softens. Right now it is those -- but I think he could make an obvious as the Marlins. Now now I don't think you know I was not in the top what is often Yeltsin while there's just a total aside here longest punt returns season. It I just are on the regular radius the record of that talk about Wes Welker saying. You know that you looked up at least 40 something yards downfield and I'm thinking well maybe he's -- the last time I was 40 something yards from where at the Bible say that Fred. He's been a punt return I've only once he's doing well low to the ground slippery he's doing what slippery. I know that he'll say that I never admit I'm wrong you know he's about a."

[1:01:21]" Richard America they long for his size and he keeps his leg moving so that first hit the -- don't -- about he's got a break free get a few yards. Eric here is can as little crib sheets of -- Mike -- he says it's a -- Iowa State. I'd like to set of big goal -- idiots in the city Iowa have a guess that your -- I think -- And one of us like -- to win this versus the hawks now while cyclones deserve to get as much love as they possibly can get past -- as the gators try to get some asks us just and they David Ortiz -- I can see the patriots take it one of the second half games to allow Maroney to get 25 to 30 carries -- if he is capable of being the guy so. What gave would you be most beneficial to that'd. I just think that if they can give them some confidence as the season rolls on. -- benefit everyone on the team. And finally this Chad Jackson getting first team playing time. Its socket in pizzas not without injuries from the last question well beaten gig -- at first and -- over while girl. I don't know -- string tie downs it yeah cult I think doesn't really to watch first half against the colts Jabar Gaffney was on the field more often and I am at but I team again he played 13 of the snaps that stalwart and welcome plated. In the second half stalwart took out every I said the game after the first half. But I'm saying in the game -- at -- generally a big part of the game. Why initial fixated on who actually is on the field for the first play of the game as I I think -- the first play of the game what you're saying he's the first half it's actually a lot of prejudice and I about 30 some such right now he didn't play 30 and 11. I said the -- yeah. Players that you hear whatever you want to hear Fred's right you -- Do you journalists why is that the first string I don't we've had this argument about he was I was in bulk of the first half mostly that's -- That's okay well I'm sorry to disagree with the facts okay. He played 11 snaps that that's the bulk of them it wasn't three receiver sets. Okay and I'm Ron I I would be about arguing to me that's not. The bulk of the snatched out of if that is you view however you want to view up to mondesi was mora and the biggest game of the year it was on the field more often than I'd ever not a team. Those -- for what does that make him a start him. I don't know what they didn't let no one asked if he was gonna start. I mean if it will delegate our team reps if I see him on the field I don't think you got within Welker moss and soccer or mosques and Stallworth in regular set early in games. Then I say he's getting first team wraps just like Jabar Gaffney did against the Indianapolis Colts. For more often and I never thought -- I case what you gotta do think the way you have to look at it -- belted wool -- differently depending on the question I don't -- Added activist attitude guy you know who were the guys that are untouchable you know you gotta write them and then. If Jabar Gaffney comes up. Highly ranked that you say yeah he's one of the starters the first team guys he's not one of the first team. I consider those first team reps that's what I but the question was so I -- if if Jabar Gaffney he's going to get him and I could see Chad Jackson getting scared and I I would just say that. I would. Just had that the argument that we're having is a difference of opinion of what a first team -- so bad that it once again. Because I don't think whatever they are I don't think -- Jackson I don't think Jabar Gaffney is taking a first team employees alike just because he was signing -- part of -- game. And once at the start of the game the entire first half you can't play a third or more of the first happened say in not getting first team -- I just don't -- they've got to have to actually you know what he'd be and it's -- Donte' Stallworth was not because he played the bulk of the second that I guess what I'm saying India's I think like you know how we think about Kelley Washington how he generally is on the field. And one as a as a running guy. I think it they came out -- they ran the ball little bit net game and for whatever reason I have no idea why. -- did it that way but. That was why Gaffney was on the feel I just don't I take it first team reps went -- chance to get out of their offense stalwart was back out there and I think that he is the first team. Guys Welker Stallworth and not a doesn't mean -- right -- to get first I don't it again and I mean it doesn't mean I'm right that's just my opinion. That's all. We have them before -- how he's dorm on the can be used to -- arguments -- any -- try to -- to this -- he's -- he's -- starter something -- one thing about -- as usual he was -- right. The page as players have been reacting a little bit more than usual these days when it comes to comets by the media indoor watched I would agree we'll coaches. Do you guys think this is a bad thing. Then against the spike -- they've been playing with a chip on the shoulder. Although I don't think they should be reacting to comments made by guys like -- I think this will make them work that much harder. To -- 19 you know PS what do you guys think about the smallest spread. For the rest of the -- schedule being 13 points against the Steelers I heard that an ESP on 14 and a half round here I'm giving in the tenor and a half. Well -- I was 13 and a half. My purpose but would be 12 that's alive but that that in half give it their team and when spreads out this early in advance that it just they're guessing. I -- the Steelers could blow while everyone lately from here on in this but go down that they their team. And a half -- Doctor if they're two and a -- over -- point one argument at a time with you the what was the first question email they're both the first one to answer. Do you think the patriots have been reacting more I what do we think about it and I do think there I think that's a -- well personally to -- I mean do you want -- to give my homer -- thing because their whole philosophy is not reacting to himself I don't know why they are but as a journalist and as a -- I love I love these feuds in words and everything -- keep the journalist -- out of -- and seen as a -- I think it's great. I think it when team when when people say things not the patriot way Paul out like whenever he said hey I've been here all my career. This is -- team you know financial what you write that -- Accidental career and in general I like nobody able so able what was the one highlight the most he's very good about. Expects players in the you know washed -- watch spell a lot of old players in general coach I I think if you want to say disparaging things about a team. That team should be able to stand up for itself in him right back -- the patriots do on game day that's when they stand and I don't like -- I like it -- stand up for yourself before you know that you want to like your actions had an outlet to make sure ball we have been as. As -- your life I like what they've done Alaska at the last bit and I agreed Bruschi even in San Diego -- fancy -- game. I think it's been great the way the patriots have stood up that such that it's more impressive to have your actions speak for here now. That's at anybody can -- like your idea but from a journalist when US request your letter to try to elicit some more quarterback prospect that you allowed back into. A ball I just gotta get up you would talk trash and that you laid me out ironically he. I -- how they don't do you know read that you know I always say. But they do stuff about Bruschi and now I don't I don't always I thought he was fantastic after Nancy -- the game that's true that you you know tocchet called well played receiver you don't want to talk so what could boost that gave an outrageous to them -- but now they're playing the 72 dolphins those guys are like seven. Are actually just like golf with Dick Anderson yeah today. I hope they haven't caught on what -- but he shouldn't troubled her again stating facts attached to this team and it always will be while he gets in trouble are actually giving is a well I don't think his -- it's -- and that's -- take it that's his opinion. No he didn't say -- he says having that attached to you. Meaning the the issue camera gate. It is forever we've all agreed I think that it's forever attached to this team on some level where whether it's the last paragraph of the story says. In 2007 around you know penalized for cheating. By the way you guys been it was restaurant you don't you don't -- about the -- 49ers -- You know do about these talk about it all the time -- juice and when that's going to learn. Most states has always had the chi niners that's still a story has always been tough for the moron -- Broncos and their camp absolutely. It's the first of all it's easy because another one of them dies every other day after I mean. We talked about the greatest 60 passed all the times that I never hear of the other. We've always talked about that they even some of the players on the team admit. They had -- that monster -- I'm talking about us talk about what you read about you know dynasties you read about teams of the past comparing you know one another and you don't say. Terrorist activities but they took steroids you don't see the organizer rate -- that you hear all you can watch ESP NL network all day long walk while those teams in the government and chipped it depends what I'm telling you that if I hear them talking at length about the Pittsburgh Steelers of the 70s I'm hearing steroids at some point -- comes in Seattle -- part it's what you don't hear people talking at length about the 70s Pittsburgh Steelers all that often. I'll get back I have -- for America's games on the Pittsburgh Steelers one of those you indicative going to put an. What do -- trade -- and you think they're going to put an America's game about the 2007 patriots in camera it's going to be a major part of it. -- this -- one hole she. Honestly no cheap honestly especially I'd go now let up not to try to be argumentative. If if -- if the discussion wasn't what's. Been wrong with those teams I've never hear that stuff -- line when they talk about those two well wouldn't normally tight you're wrong or right it's I have right up our end and that's what I did when they -- tough YNS I agree with -- that people going to say oh they got -- I think that's going to go why don't. I think it is -- all they find it goes away. I don't like the only talk that I originally brought up when when they just list five to give me your top five teams of all time I'd say no patriots don't. Tighter and -- 2007 patriots but they would know what to say that. Analyzing some guys doing -- a five page spread of the best teams of all time it'll be in the now -- just try to be -- all of yeah. -- because we will have done that of the great teams now you don't read that stuff I don't have. -- you for a title I idea -- you'll. About criminals patriots football weekly won't be right about it point by. It's -- putting the fact that their greatest team but just generally -- you're talking about some panel show on ESPN -- and you know the 2007 patriots up there with the greatest teams ever. Well you know you gotta talk what the 85 bears in the this Steelers of the 70s no I'm not expected him to say. Thank you put the Steelers assemblies up it will wear -- about when there's not FL films they don't say illustrate an unpopular so I realized how did yes and that's about it discuss it about -- when it -- how do we find out about it and -- if I was talking about -- of -- part of an -- my opinion -- 49ers -- department -- I have but also taught us I have that right books talk about a -- as I wouldn't you put in this conversation because I don't think the team is worthy of being in the cubs nation the niners you hear about that salary cap violation all time. The Broncos agree with you inevitable I hear I hear more to be I hear more about the niners in the Steelers I hear both when retirement agree I think we talked he talked about -- should I think you should hear more about the niners Steelers could the niners actually cheated this."

[1:12:44]" Dealers while the I heard there was a -- my granted the steroids thing was coming up it bright and that was after the fact after the fact that was like 230 years later couple guys. David you know -- it's then it's gone away -- that that -- small -- what steroids were being talked about. One small period due to any any particular need to let that story came out. Wish I'd like the Steelers -- that's just came out. I said when the story came out it was talked about but I haven't heard a story came out about 20 years ago. My point you still -- bet that -- make it still in about a 20 to let him get my point I actually do think it's gonna go additional. -- until a couple of years ago you heard it that's the issue we're talking about this. I think it's all about baseball and everything like that but they'll always be a reason why you hear it Nolan just going to stop -- by the way did you 2007. Needed in if somebody gets caught cheating 30 years from now the -- groceries or when they're really trying to break down the greatest -- never applied. I still think that. Arnold Beckett is different because the Steelers played in the time with a was ESP and -- Now would -- this is Hubbard so much I think more people know about him my guess is about on school go my guess is about the Steelers. I that your average at a healthy and -- even know that's right -- I didn't -- go right to edit it but how would you ask anybody about spike gate everybody you know would benefit not a football that's right about that sap season like like I said -- when I stepped out -- the -- is that a very good job of turning America against America's team but you're right that's. America against America's team by having -- the cowboys. I just wondered we don't with a real -- He's cool I have assured viewers -- no offense but that's their name I'll -- just picked. So where the planet Steve okay where where the universe I I feel better about that since you have -- Pace is just going to say it's finish -- is demented Noah watched the civil 'cause everybody hates them enacted a planet and he always with that we cardinals I don't. -- hate about it. And spreads right word in China about Redd of the care about boat people they don't know what's going on today if that's true. So he get mad if if if everybody watches suitable. Fred was right into the planet's biggest media hadn't turned people against us we would be the universe -- useful."

[1:15:11]" It's and I -- that sort on the camera Eric. Continues his dominance for -- 12 into last Powell and Fred and I -- for. Indy 95 Tom 86 and was my AFC NFC sting to opponent last week what's it with the spread."

[1:15:33]" Eric again nine and five very good I was next 86 and the other three at seven and 7500 that's a huge week for any big week -- and overall season standings Eric 90s in 40."

[1:15:47]" Followed by Fred night 86 and 44 full four games back that's embarrassing. Tom -- get bigger award Tom eight hour and 46 that was she told you and I"

[1:15:58]" and -- every now and one little theory here of why you're the only reason writes them down. -- making these picks you have somebody -- in the pics for you don't you know some about football is the picks I -- than anyone -- to get on what the dumb luck thing like when the girl wins march madness thing that never watched this ticket this ticket to come out which you have a lot of time -- pissed at me about the they oh -- tell the people real quick that it has been like having six the and threes and a 65. -- somehow I didn't win some lady and Eric there. Related to this era -- able to pay his rent this month open. I bought 12 dollars while ten dollars I'll I'll tell us practice for Tom. Right and and now I just 18 and that's it more than 50 tickets right by the way that Ethan character who mailed in Gary wanted to contribute at times -- I put the I put those in -- want to know if this guy actually sent them in in my church probably -- Well he better pay up -- coming after -- so you know it's not a very church like. Reaction that's okay. Supposed to love my brother the and the only guy -- baby's got Matsui and that's correct -- this directly behind the macromedia went one walk it this week."

[1:17:16]" To -- you know the someone in the 90s and and I hated it anyway one game behind per week with the number. Eric has taken over the lead at 6658 and six Tom one game back 6559 and six than me 6361 at six this is definitely the latest in -- ever been over 500 I'm very proud of myself. Fred 6064 and six Andy and 5760 sevens -- getting -- where you didn't drop any get into the seven of seven."

[1:17:46]" We only to -- need to be like Eric and not care. Why why you have to harp on that -- center of the harp on. As you said we can one I would -- I don't joy from winning something that you don't care of I've been like wedding out to -- now I've been winning translate to -- total yacht. One bad week the first week and I know he reacted out patriots he won't luckily not -- didn't care at all but once he wins boy might talk. Present lot of jealousy in less expensive halftime Colorado did you -- of his email staff and if you know that what he's normally not a smart -- review -- the -- Jackson thriller today rhymes with Hayes and we have time afterwards we'll get to some more emails because it's an interesting thing -- who was now back -- and yes you heard about that was -- crisper -- the -- story and ESPN I I don't. Mean immunity talked about the stuff you don't need different another right now anyway why we don't mean I have no problem with what you know why do -- duties I think that the dolphins are definitely living in the past and I I'd never seen an example where a team is sold. Hell bent on protecting the record but I don't think he said what people everybody said that he said the first time around I don't think he's back. He didn't say they should be an asterisk attack and that's what everybody's. Well somebody -- it should there be one -- he -- well he can't get away from what whatever it is those that were right but he isn't it with a guy that said but he didn't say they should be an asterisk attached to. Patriots and that's what everybody's saying that they sent viewers that IDs that you can't get around having that. Attached to it yes -- not an asterisk out if he's talking but the issue not an ass attached to this team now know what he's saying that. You can have a discussion about the station without that coming out. So that's. I mean that's what that is right. Now I want to call it running -- and he also said that if I say it that's shot. I don't know the story also said it would have anything to do with 2007 but that was conveniently left out of the story I -- things more an asterisk in my mind it was but he said. Q what -- cast aspersions on the other Super Bowls and that's when my feet up Bruschi was of I understand how to edit I I think he's ridiculous I think that those comments were ridiculous I just saying he didn't say what everybody's saying he's -- I knew that would be united that's my title when Jacksonville at Tennessee. Andy first -- Tennessee by four and a half and a Tennessee and since."

[1:20:12]" Rumblings the quarterback rod might be back but I'll take Tennessee at home not a big numbers shall take in the cover Jacksonville can't put -- points they won't -- won't run the ball. Tennessee's titans' first -- rushed the fence they shut down Jacksonville the first time around -- in -- controllable through reportedly -- the other night. I just I like Tennessee I like the way their play and they don't blow people also might be hard to cover before capital -- might be planes. Which hit -- me. Or -- Respect of the hall of both well. Patriots are on -- by this week sect which means my starting fantasy quarterback Tom Brady is not playing which means that the played Tennessee Titans Vince young as my starting quarterbacks are like the titans big in this game. Very day closure of good reasoning I total Marino is numbers are crucial to another table that's why didn't three touchdown had a victory in 88 interceptions I have some trepidation about the spread rules on us but I will I will go -- I'm going to be -- scared I don't know I think -- great stays stays in their formal week in because I've seen. Bruce mode as Jack's put up too many points -- take tennis. Take Tennessee but this is a three point waited over time so that -- Robert and so do we give you the win if they don't go to overtime and you make such -- you just called collapse basically called last half of walker past. I Denver Broncos Andy and -- tough AFC west matchup at Kansas City oh boy every chiefs. Chiefs by three as an LJ have a foot problem sprained foot -- my Broncos even though -- an -- do. Yet in Kansas City they'd ever planned road. I have ever played -- proposal -- your house the quiet lineup Sunday night that I was caught off the -- in time go to Jason with -- plot in life. Today and white -- with every week -- go out that we go to we got that -- because at one point here but I would the only ones pick of the teams in the paper I guess all now we say is that that kielty jumped on board he's got a hold -- ask. -- yeah with a goat -- a home colors little banged up no Larry Johnson priest Holmes the regular -- so -- miserable game the most -- game will be. Little rat that rides around on the X Taylor before the game because they have the best sorry Gary game -- to try itself they have the best game presentation in the national -- followed by Tennessee does really -- I don't -- thousand hasn't won two. And the Brady crunch thing fielder -- and that wrestling match was hit with a hulk Hogan guy. There'll -- guy and L's Tennessee mine is playing too and always -- I think just playing my buddies these things. That's why there's goal line because -- Johnson color we make three or other a lot of traders was one -- the paper. I'm going to go with I'm an go -- both ways there and he sent a terrible game and whether or not color plays I think. But really not really going to nowadays Broncos bronco although it's a terrible game when it's kind of a bit one because of the -- right chargers right cannot win Denver wins the role I also had five so Leo that he -- So that's true that's that's -- force them but I'm going to go with you I'm going to take Denver and I think that this is an ass game. I just can't imagine that Denver's -- last week and finance I think they're just terrible both teams. I'm going to go with an upset I guess not much upset but I'll take the Broncos are picked the chiefs at home and to cover. In the -- in that division. I speak in a bad games buffalo travels to Miami and one of those. Tough AFC east fields Miami get up ride out this form but dolphins are home dog getting three I'll take buffalo to win. My it'll take -- the cover big plays from Lee Evans continue as the smarmy and he's shown Johnson told me some teams pack it in and week gate. Miami dolphins' -- Yeah I would -- the bills here not crazy about them be in favor on the road. I just like he picked the dolphins toys he subside some sort. Like for some of your theory -- team that tries -- the team that thrives lowest seeded team not trying but it's more based on the that if the team it doesn't -- more -- You do pick out that I was gonna say thanks god cappella and take -- Now I'm going to go with the bills both ways to despite the fact that J. P. Losman supposedly starting in this game and I think he's about as good as. Rex Grossman which means Little Rock has been under way right but Ben -- should be in the league liberians -- last week -- the that was the bills and he. Well not. -- Miami's just through awful then like decent enough playing and I care so thoroughly confused me for a second -- no idea what Gary woods. But I agree you know take buffalo as well. I can't pick Miami or saint Louis until they went so I won't do it. You know the bills Miami I -- and buffalo if you -- our talent down there but. You know the running backs gone for the seasons that thomas' concussions you know we're -- whiplash. There's no way that he can pick Miami to win this game so awful that they'll win a game but unfortunately I'll have to suffer a loss that we in the -- yeah I don't know with the going to be Olympic jets on that place saint Louis but the general placing. The play that jets but. I mean I it's the jets beat them. But it usually that little Jonathan -- He's going to maybe have them micro fracture surgery that that's suddenly that's that's -- in built his -- just and that's the biggest surgery now for everybody gets that all the rage. Right not good for you know it is now -- little -- the blood -- out to try to grow cartilage in Portland and put him back to the -- child like we generated cartilage a little beyond experimental mean it happens enough but it's still not necessarily you just get it done you fine. Ended givens on davis' career now. And it's which events and a -- that's -- in the Soviet this is a very interesting matchup that I don't think anybody would spot that's certainly not after week one Cleveland. At Pittsburgh. Steelers big favorites nine and a half big number for my Steelers achilles' game speaking of that standing staff. They be tied. With Pittsburgh Pittsburgh and they won't get tied Cleveland Wednesday's game Cleveland won this game they beat but they -- because -- who's gonna win and cover. Steelers building some momentum here defensive player of the year candidate James Harrison continues to -- Then rob was -- put up some points as long as he's. Not an idiot and yeah it would be easy like the Steelers to win -- I think the brown the cover this line I think the Steelers had a very emotional game against the ravens on Monday Night Football team they truly hate. I know the browns Steelers game supposed to be -- rivalry but right now I think the Steelers -- a little more. I just that the browns are playing good football wanting to keep this game close but the Steelers I would take them to win. I'm I'm -- agree if you Tom moment ago with the Steelers and then worked with hot dog. To win this game but I want to take Cleveland is that lightly cover because he's cocky and you'd just like it."

[1:27:44]" My -- actually said that you want on conversation while we're assuming it and he said. -- from Pittsburgh quarterback he's very unlikable. The red another you unlike some other I. I would get my barber spread all my barber nonstop -- trainer yet it is going to take us got very"

[1:28:05]" I'm going to agree with Tom America I think Pittsburgh wins the game. But dominant I'm going to take those nine and a half points of the that's too much the -- played well you go to different Romeo reverently green -- Estrada off Barry's has probably done enough I don't I don't think the safest job yeah they show an eight game so I'd definitely you know what I think you stay with this guy until he proves that he can't do it in the high tender. When you restricted free agent audiences that are you know there was only second victory there this year so in the -- hold onto him. That's tough these would -- can do next year then well -- I don't agree with Paul and you think the Steelers are missing Joey porter now now now she is a big mouth so you technically when the cover technically in the country. There."

[1:28:54]" saint Louis. Travels to the resurgent -- saints with the saints with the biggest favorite of the week. 11 and a half on the sentencing -- 44 -- I'll take in the papers because the rams staying and I guess I'll take in the covered 'cause they can put up some points and I'll assume they're going to put -- some points in the that the defense. Yeah -- extremely impressed with the saints last week by Jacksonville remotely but they came now. They just -- Jacksonville but. There's only a few teams only in Lebanon -- was one of them in the world and so I'll take the saints to win I'll take the rams -- but at least some kinda for maybe. Yeah I was impressed by Drew Brees performance put -- points and almost all the yardage in the first half but I I kind of group Tom I don't see them doing that two weeks in a row and given them that many points it's two months I'll take them to win. Ignorance to cover people -- right that he knew that you really just -- take comes the boys the rams. You know Jackson Bulger so they're all plant and I gotta take the points then I think -- wants to put up every bit as much offense that did last week by. That defense -- start they have Kevin passover. Safety is always front and it stayed out saying it's although I hear I want to take the -- I'm going to -- the rams to cover because I just don't think the saints Steve Francis capable weighing 11 and a half to anybody and knives on this. The rams have enough guys healthy I think they find a way to score some points out I'll I'll go the same way. Take the reins to cover saints too big week -- becoming a five cents a lot of picks that are different mind. So are Tony are you look at that still optimistic."

[1:30:36]" It's and that's also how you think the I will say that you do I do. -- next game."

[1:30:44]" Is see it."

[1:30:46]" Atlanta Falcons travel to Carolina too bad teams playing. It's on terrorism panthers by four."

[1:30:54]" Yeah chances -- or. Old man and Fred Hersch lookalike Vinny Testaverde apparently is it'll affect commercial lookalike both have -- they both have bad Achilles both in their mid 40s not aging well at this point if -- about really through. If you if you want to my performance up to -- until smooth out recipient discus I've no interest in touching anything that as the falcons local -- including the team take the panthers to their home. Now that's the -- do that it was well -- Testaverde playing in this game at night it would start I want to take the panthers to win I'll take the four points I'll take the falcons to come. I'll take the panthers both ways"

[1:31:39]" is that -- that always goes after protect because he never says anything and I'm not ready yet anyway Philadelphia will travel to Washington one of those. Coma inducing NFC north games so right now. But the thought that the cowboys -- involved and it's -- cowboys on involved in another NFC -- this week it's pretty big. By said the published one ball that Redskins by three Redskins by three I will take the Redskins. -- we in. He and it can be three I -- I'll take the eagles really. Again and if I don't want you ever make it from a friend anymore it's little favorite I don't think about these two you do I don't -- today's call. If not hole you picked it's like going to get pushed it up three point spread like -- slanting I'm I'm going live I'm sure of one angle for the push. I still doesn't every -- and Alec the Redskins appointed in this game I think they'll -- McNabb in this will be his last game as a starter not his fault he should get an extra point if they push it right. Yeah that your -- redskins' defense in this game. Daylight and I'll give you always. If they push five if I you know I'm not give them -- I'll definitely went down memory I'll give him away and I would wish I was surprised the Redskins had to go Washington both sides that I know. And it. Much Lucia who cares you know member you think you know we don't care. It a surprise to see the Russians had to go in overtime to beat the jets last week that was. I'd I didn't expect especially pollen up all the offense that they did you wouldn't think it would've had to go see what happens is. Get it. What happens is made any does everything -- he watches the game and then he does exactly had the -- but -- Bill Belichick. Just to have the players in the patriots went 52 I was. But I with a clean -- for a 196 yards -- that's what it at the end that's pretty good for the -- to do what they did because they follow the patriots believe so coming out it's tough sometimes -- swing -- that predicament -- last week I said they were going to -- bigger over the -- so I'll say they're going to win big again this week over the -- goes wrong last week although they do win but not as big as I thought -- gonna win this week McNabb is. Mike Thompson. Start your -- again. But I think this might be McNabb last week as a starter I will not take the on the heels. I will not -- the rest of the year I think parliament and -- gets on right now they're playing like one of the worst teams in football I don't it is a lot of talent. And I think they'd they'd deceive themselves into thinking if there's still. The contender deny plus if you read it wasn't long ago that every year the eagles would be in the NFC championship game but you know you think that that that whole problem with injury and his kids it's gotta be asked to sort of effect on him and his coaching. Toms right that we couldn't don't want to two ways and we've seen the way when I think I think the way I'll -- McNabb -- I don't that it Hasselbeck was on the players in the eagles because reads on was their dealer. So now once again once again -- be home runs to guys cannot and it just yeah I'll be home or in any way appropriate that the I'm taking Washington's going to -- Washington meets. Once again. Minnesota is packed Green Bay and Matt reiterate that Adrian Peterson is currently David -- back in football I don't want to say you know mr. obvious and yells at me -- estimate glitzy Minnesota my way I'm happily -- up another 200 I just can't say that was from enough about it in Peterson even though I -- Adrian Peterson coming out of college use. Far far better than Reggie Bush indeed. Did you think that was there no -- that's that's why I'm saying I was wrong. The I'll take the Packers to win because they've been winning and it's. Pretty easy way he'll look at the with the American while they grilled baby don't I have some logic here they don't run the ball -- and they throw. The vikings -- our run defense that doesn't affect the Packers the vikings are one dimensional offensively I'm gonna say that they can make double plays and not give up 296 yards on the ground and if they do that. They win it seems like one of those games on paper so easy so won't play out anyway I think but therein lies the problem with my not go pick last week at San Diego by what's the Murton. -- yeah I agree."

[1:36:02]" India in this one I still think -- he is the best running back and football I'd think you know Peterson obviously amazing. But I think you're right here in -- I just. To me the Packers are due to what somebody in the vikings are due to you won't believe -- against the cowboys the vikings were in that game the whole way. And the vikings are due to -- B 417 by the way they play it. I wouldn't say that this is the week that beat the Packers bull while but also the eagles -- division -- you sold the Packers. I was home I just think there I think the vikings are due to blow now I'd like Indies at all sleeping in the ball right at middleweight you know stop the path that is. You'd think they'd get there always in games against the world book. I think they get blown out -- while I disagree with the -- the Packers are the ones who were due to get on now but for some reason I don't think that's going to happen this week so they're they're going to. Pull another one now that's at -- player. -- take the Packers both ways. So I think it's three other Calgary and and he disagrees with dusty go to tech. I don't particularly care at all or any player that's at that point -- point --"

[1:37:15]" I am going to agree with Andy and all his reasons with the -- what they -- this game I am not totally sold for the anti pollution and the Packers -- When to play in the NFC more often than not you don't have to be that -- you can just win. And I think the Packers will do that in Minnesota have the Packers the Packers played the Detroit yet. Yet they maybe you. That was one of that was one of Detroit's loss as two loss is right and I lost to they've won -- lost washing Washington and Billy goat flip in Philly over in Detroit hasn't lost to mean no they haven't played yet. -- Atlantic I was the in this so yes they do. So on the take Green Bay two conference well. Packers bill lines on thanksgiving goal -- embassy that RB jays have obviously had a spot things get rough Marvin Tony Romo goodness. You know I don't know enough about this Minnesota team other than that put all. -- then you know lights out pointing at you need to know it all they got -- cornerback play at all what's the I just all types of records like yet know -- actually winning so it goes in inverse order of football knowledge apparently around here. So jealousy that's that there is this really bitter really lucky I have to -- with Minnesota. For the win for the way. I can't believe this guy pick -- I. All right we'll go back to the AFC for this one Cincinnati travels the Baltimore two teams spinning out of control in the wrong direction. Baltimore elite schools on the guy and TV right now that look like Elliott school were on the radio no intensity no one knows who -- lives to spreading so -- but I don't know maybe it's mother's. Because it has Barrett a slight resemblance between TV -- dad with Elliott who. That's what you might totally it doesn't matter because a lot of the moms use their name them. Especially showbiz I'd ask now what the hell is illegal Sunday tendencies -- Monica and two in the which calls bothered him that something that well he was best known for his role -- match the movie. I was talking something -- would know you know Monica I don't they have seed Monica Ross is that I'm friends and he's right nine always -- an understatement as the -- relatives friends like -- like that what was the at Cincinnati and Baltimore two or arrow teams -- my part or in Baltimore."

[1:39:41]" I'll just go my little theory here that eventually the ravens opened up enough Armenia angles open up enough points to be a bad bad team that can't put up any models ray Lewis he's the only way to they get the Baltimore please but it is the division teams so. I just think I'm picket against the singles every week I thought they packed it in right after the patriot game in. Obviously they've shown only do you maybe it was a team impacted it worse -- them jets so I think all the world's of this game you know coming off a pounding by probably Tuesday. They -- do about coming off that pounding my Pittsburgh I think they're going to taken on Cincinnati who like you said it's not. They packed it in like the dolphins did few weeks ago so that -- to the point Eric."

[1:40:21]" If you asked again. This is another ass game on -- Baltimore to win it -- take the four points again now if I didn't feel colossal take the points with Cincinnati but I don't think the ravens have shown any signs of not not throwing in any more than Cincinnati has that performance Monday night was abysmal. They didn't want to be there the what it was like they were cold and wet and didn't want to beat you could see it on their faces. Just an embarrassing Shaq around I really think that that's -- that there will way and I and I I also like to read you know those whispers that they have another sporting news -- pro football weekly -- pro football weekly as the big. Page with all the -- you know hearing the whole thing was all bought how. That they haven't turned despite the struggles of the Baltimore offense they haven't turned the defense hasn't turned on the yanks and all of a sudden the very next game you -- ray Lewis with a ridiculous diatribe about how the offense put -- bad spots in. You know shame that the shamefully trying to explain to me how you remember when I argued that -- RP FW it looked I don't mean like was it I just mean like counterpoint Richard -- an automatic because they said yeah great most of the bad -- that they because it's self assess his Murton either you know but what else get a lead he's. Point fingers -- just the opposite of what he wants people think he has but I I was most offended by him trying to tell us that the defense played well in the second half. Roethlisberger did what he does to everybody else -- throwing the ball over the -- five touchdowns in the first half. They completely sat on the ball the entire second half and ray -- talent that's. How they shut him down in the second half of plain hatred was in Paris he'd -- it was absolutely embarrassing that you would even bring that up. Anyway I'll take the ravens to win the game because since then -- I have seen Elliott school before and I'll take Cincinnati to come. I will take same thing since -- cover -- an emotional -- Yes Lewis but that's right yes it was let's see Dillon is one of Toms favorites when the the teacher conference clashes. Chicago travels to Oakland. Where the raiders are home dogs and three and a half I would just like to point out that I."

[1:42:26]" Italy if it was more on long long ago. And then I read this week that he's going to challenges special teams unit by kicking the ball right at -- and quote challenging him. Good luck you lose I'll take the -- Raiders -- garbage. He'd taken in every -- home when it's bad teams make him so I'll take the bears here where Algerian looking pretty good now on no chance -- I want to pick and haven't at all I don't give is that they have the beauty team stinks. They have to be of equal talent. And the other thing is it's more effective although with -- last week when the AFC teams on the role. Because they're usually better than the NFC team sometimes points oval as we've all got killed. But I think the better much better raiders ultimately there on the there that much better but there that the raiders -- I don't see them. How hard time seeing him win another game this summer so many notes -- be another disagreement but I don't want to talk that -- they're not that much better but the -- to little of that regain. So we go to the bears both. And I am glad that you -- a little nugget about Devin Hester and I didn't know that I hadn't seen that way now maybe salaries and all eyes -- example how Andy does this research during the week that would not privy to Tom yet as a resurgence resurgent Columbine -- I -- less than any other game I was going to take six go to win the game but I was going to take the three and a half but if they're going to take the balding pastor that means that I think the the bears are dad's favorite because I don't that they score enough points -- If they're going to test every touchdowns from -- I mean that that's enough points to cover write this all -- Chicago both ways to but isn't it just sad is it just sad how. Any of these games just bad teams Atlanta I don't want coming up Redd added 128 bad teams in the league yeah I mean I'm not exactly that is that the value of the patriots are doing -- historically. You know. I don't know I don't I don't know you can only beat who's in front and then they played all the good teams I don't think so back is that you know is that all the good plays a lot of people -- that the Miami Dolphins played -- team it was a weak schedule at times but but he can only -- and I says that -- one looks back -- that in -- and that's that's true. And they did have to go on the road music you project him because of another ridiculous NFL accidental I'd research some like that sounds like -- must be type on the road they used to alternate. The sites that make sense anyway. Is Tom's big game. The guys at some in his son and I -- now for 50. Well that that's that's much better I don't really have any interest and watch the sun and making -- at the five calls for the summit you know what I don't like. The cowboys are and so I don't know I don't NFL ready clean the I don't really I don't want to credit NBC's chip --"

[1:45:11]" I'm not about the NBC I want -- no set four. Defeating game out of Fox's format that it listening to the show Garrett at the that out of all of all people not been listening to Michelle I'd dallas' going to the meadowlands faced the giants this was a great week one game high scoring. Giants -- home dog getting one and a half. They pick Albert and they're pretty good football team not sold on the giants."

[1:45:38]" I -- But it. Like of the fox game this is Tom Coughlin didn't say when he was going to do special teams -- through -- event this is obviously a big one meal with Sally household we got the bye week. I'll be sit there swear to deal with the PB -- father to Collins -- I hate the giants it was a big one in the NFC east but. I gotta go with what he's going to win here I think the giants are going to win I just unbelievable I'm impressed with the way that. I'm impressed with a psychology -- what's I'm telling you what I. I'm wrong I hope the cowboys with its reverse psychology. It is cities you don't really think the giants holy place at the one point spread you make a solid companies have a couple of well good news I'm Mike -- I are -- on a month I'll start. The point areas are picking who I think's gonna win I'm not you while my -- I'm not a homer I think the cowboys or on the road for their second straight NFC's game they played Monday night at Philadelphia. The giants had a bye week everything's point in the giants would in this game might still in the -- was when the division but I think they get."

[1:46:39]" Looked up here. Coming in his point of him when in this game I think you're gone you're going to be glad that your wrong because the -- going to go there can whip up on the giants who historically it up in the second you -- all Tom Coughlin seasons -- up I mean you know ten points or more. -- anymore so I don't think of you. They thought Strahan and he likes to give that's. So but I think Angeles this is when he starts causing trouble although I do have Plaxico -- in my fantasy -- blow below them but not enough to overcome that so cowboys both ways. I this that's Afghan -- take Dallas but I got its not a real hot and -- really don't know yet how good the giants I think the giants a pretty good and I think that defense is a lot better than it was now we won game. I think their pressure on the passer has been impressive. And that's why like it I'd take adding to pressure rolled all the mistakes Marion Barber."

[1:47:32]" I'm going to take Dallas so monetary douse the winning game but I guards Julius Jones I'm not going to be surprised if if Tom ends up being correct. Yeah I'm gonna go with the cowboys I thought that last week would be the big upset it was my upset special week I was absolutely wrong. Eagles couldn't be any worse the cowboys are the best team in the NFC I --"

[1:47:54]" outside I think there's a big mismatch there watch Umenyiora pulls 11. World she's -- and I"

[1:48:04]" Detroit why is this game down here this of the -- 4 O'Clock game -- Detroit is at Arizona Andy. With the cardinals a favor by one."

[1:48:15]" Smell -- yeah right now that that that red flag is going like this for this game. It was a -- the -- I was saying if so why why the excitement -- I'm going to take it a generally -- red flag games I've fallen to an anyway but that's a red flag spread outside and I don't know or the red flag and take the lines. But the doing."

[1:48:34]" Aram this is definitely a red flag that would take alliance only for one reason because I think and I said the since 2000 I don't think Kurt Warner complete football this league. I think it's a joke of these teams keep the tournament trying to make them play football league he's the perfect backup but nothing more. In like Paul said he went ten for 30 last week those are like 13 quarterback numbers that they don't sit at an NFL very often ten for 30 so. I think the lions defense. You know with a big Shaun Rogers might get another want them like it at that one -- what was that Shaun Rogers that the yes except I get another one up on the board -- so I. -- this is obviously a trap in Vegas is going to cleanup -- and -- alliance."

[1:49:14]" I like with the lions are doing eloquent Rod Marinelli is dunes you know instill some confidence in this team finally John -- playing well. My hopes for Arizona are going to come through this year their plan -- it was so I gotta go with the linesman on the stand that number what were your hopes terrorism that they would at least. You know maybe make the playoffs. I have have a when might you give quote rat's ass. Want to -- thinking of the -- surprise I thought I can agree with a my thought that Arizona had a chance in -- bad -- San Francisco I -- well I think they're both of those teams might have had a chance had it not been -- quarterback with injuries as you can tell by the number -- I hope he shot when I actually do watch some that I -- way to use and he's been wasted -- he really likes Rod Marinelli from his time in Tampa. Some room for Rod Marinelli who --"

[1:49:58]" comical the niners' starting guard is now for the season like we all that's going to happen and -- it must call off the dogs like I slammed his feet. -- and I think L -- good to have. Five or at least I'll just leave us a lot -- Yankees get. You know 3031 voodoo dolls in his office think. Just picks up one side and it's it's on -- this weekend but that he has -- was was throwing out there that that Jerry Jones is really in love with Darren yet and that he might want to trade up with. The patriots to get that picks that we are getting your first -- is after all we've our idiot -- talked about it will waste our entire time at the common looking at linebacker six top ten picks and then slowly picking 20 whatever 20 -- And in the majors point that I will though Cleveland won't be that far you know the -- Wichita might make the Cleveland beat at five and I make the play went eight or nine game after him -- You know little -- musical theory here certainly not a delete it. I'm going to take Detroit is well."

[1:50:59]" And fall right into the big -- I just think they're better team and I can understand why they're -- why they're underdogs in this game typical with Detroit do you Detroit. Was the food -- not yet evidently I was up FRA you fraud. I have like to go with the F five road before he's anyway here's a good game on Sunday night we actually do have a good game although like I. Can't stand watching games and NBC for a team you know like NBC not only the games an NBC. Just like I don't -- like watching them on fox. That's half the games all look like yeah. So now I come on CBS and they're the only -- to like in instances like like them but I think they do or I'd dated I don't mind try to influence them don't the Troy -- ones that -- Gus Johnson out. That's awful he's currently a robot that walks out on fox during Michael's talent and that like -- its arms like and -- to -- San Diego -- the -- bounce back -- crushing -- they -- chargers getting three and a half at home. A technical because I was impressed with the way they played against these England patriots and early on impressed with the chargers getting it handed to buy one trick pony vikings team so. On --"

[1:52:24]" This -- my feelings of a laid on those two squads. I have really I have no opinion on this game I just I have no idea how it's gonna go. It's setting up perfectly for chargers win because they gotta be at Minnesota privately had a little bit the colts comin' off that physical game with the patriots they're beat up. But when -- try to middle this one get the colts to win and the chargers to cover now. Only that charges have been a Jekyll and Hyde team especially with norv Turner's their coaching that was going to happen eventually but yeah unimpressed with the way they played last."

[1:52:57]" Week you know the colts obviously played well last week could've won that game. I see the colts beating up on the chargers I don't think it's going to be that close either there."

[1:53:09]" this is a tough want to call I'm going to take the colts I think if it's close San Diego wins it. So I'm not going to take the piping and you'll find a way to bounce back by. I expect to be one of those games it takes you -- of that emotional hangover and can take you week in San Diego coming home after that loss they have to win. So I think San Diego all signed this is one of those Tom you know all signs point to one thing but I'm going to take the other because I think -- a better team but I'm not feeling real good about it."

[1:53:37]" I think you know it's going to be an experience refereed crew. They won't be able pipe music in I going to take us -- charges for the upset. That are totally and one that that you know he's got to the warning track and -- that are for the colts on. Secret but -- final game of the of the week in this is number one of those great -- and I matchups San Francisco at Seattle yet. Ten Seattle and Seattle. Deion Branch to touchdowns 155 yards even back. He shot didn't talk about that I have my rookie Sharon Johnson like what he has good job -- to -- Shaun Alexander -- enjoyed every minute of I'll take Seattle to win but there over again that's -- Lombardi Italy ten points -- takes him sisco with the points and principal. There's a lot of points that the Seahawks in the paper although them to win"

[1:54:40]" but human race featured aspects I did that was good feature. I don't I don't remember who wrote about some from the globe it was a it was a very good. Her in -- and I -- you know -- I'll take the niners to cover I don't like news that's that's recovers from me that's very -- Italy comes back you know -- in the cover the now I usually don't I usually pick one -- Maybe two comers that we got agents we get the record what what -- you can't talk but he what week we use just went by the regular numbers you didn't pick if the spread my friend and that that is behind that you know on one game -- that is correct a stolen the -- now. The way I had an overall lead I'll take the Seahawks and now take the points with the niners to come as well. That the Seahawks both ways. The culprit I've -- that wraps up the picks this week and that's going to wrap up the show for this week we will see you tomorrow it's Friday and felt will probably be that's going to wrapped up the show for this week -- see you tomorrow"