PFW in Progress - 12/12/2007

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[1:34]" Welcome back Wednesday afternoon Gillette stadium. Ladies and gentlemen boys and girls that yet week by -- is back. The -- won't talk about I gave everything we knew would come about this time a year to come about. Andy Hart here on that Tom -- Paul Perillo Paula deep -- some pizza right now is he generally does this time on Wednesday afternoon. -- on because he's dying from them. Ailment over there are we on the was going to come sooner or later I don't know the specific ailment is but it's going to do and depth Lucia as he said he had a nice run so. Time ago yeah. We don't need anymore. Long way to draft -- punts and he'll talk about some meaningless guy from them meaningless schools where battled and get drafted in the seventh round and we'll never hear from again. But it is as I said jets' week and they'll they'll check had a little. You've been a depth today comes into the first press conference of the week here -- officially kicking off the week media day with a Mark on -- base. Having just left a conference call the New York media. And apparently they somehow got him in a good mood or maybe it's watching film of the champs and they gave you a break -- the on the jets I can't wait. All the games have been ridiculously close according to bill and I mean his team that couple breaks here or there when they play the dolphins game cool when he that except for the -- game yet so one good team they play right but he you know. Had a smirk on his face had a little on with a couple questions or ask somebody brought up. You know hate in the rivalry in the orange and going back to the -- and he sort of made fun of that go back to the forties and all that who wants to learn about that and then. Tom car and as he usually does -- go to. Random crazy question asking bill who his favorite former Cleveland Browns ball boy was. Of course trying to lead him towards Eric Mangini inane that I still don't think has been spoken this week your excellent -- object. How long does it take you think -- and he kind of said that I believed -- did you think that up right now on the throw pie or did you. And and then he actually had an answer he went was even ballot check his son who he said was inexperience but he had a soft spot for him you know is light hearted press got the most part there was a clearly a New York reporter I think it was. Looking to get an update on the Newsday story from today that the jets had an employee. Kicked out of Gillette stadium or removed from filming the patriots coaches last season. On the some confusion as to which game it was in apparently he was over by the White House somewhere filming. They're in claims that he had the permission of the patriots is. A lot going on -- but as Bill Belichick said to anything that went down those lines -- in the past preparing for the jets and the Sunday. One game he's an all that stuff blah blah blah blah blah. So whether he's not going to talk about that as an excuse basically the big matchup with the jets and they are one at this point three intent -- and with two with -- over Miami three and tan well I think Miami's in the division the jets would be in trouble yeah. But is that a lot of game related questions Kellen Clemens question bill talked about the changes in the quarterback and people playing defense. -- got nothing much came out of a press conference now because it was more him doing what he did. Three months ago before -- Diego game. Just saying how how many different ways you can say I'm not going to be talking body -- that focus on the New York Jets now he did today I thought. And much more. Lighthearted manner in -- did back then you know which may and it was it was still crashed and and and still ongoing right now he's had many times say it's in the past and you can't. Yeah achieved with in the past one thing that is not in the past it has in the future -- these reports now. You know I know everybody wants the a blowout and how much equipment he's sick now they had before -- knows all the -- that an accident sixty that matters that a sign of the double I don't know what I got below 63 death. How's that -- on the show explanation it was going to be. In going to be up 63 not that golden percent of the bills called timeout with thirty seconds left and that was Welker to the oval. Then don't answer the post game press conference who they would do what you do or -- title deal I hear area Nigeria by -- the early reports are and I don't know with a prediction markets the possibility that weatherman Clement as you know talking in feet for snow potentially Saturday night to two -- thirty mile an hour type win. Clearly that's the type of weather that has an effect football game you know and he could not only just the game in my effect getting to the game crowds all act like racquet away helped the team -- less talent you know question argue that the team with less talent benefits from -- because because. Now he could fumble easily defeat things -- dole but it's at patriots have to in the ball loft for God's sake -- the -- the -- would tell you that. It harder to be as -- doing everything you want to do in bad weather like that -- what it -- to Pittsburgh in the two games that they had the play. A specially the one against Miami where it was ridiculous conditions. That wasn't because Miami. Played better in the mud and -- in Pittsburgh did it just it limits what you can do it made it two levels the playing field I think Tom's right and know in the benefits the underdog. In the locker room a lot a lot of media members on a lot of players a group get togethers are they Samuels spoke Rodney Harrison multiple times then walked in. Com Mike for able some of the usual holy spirit has made its way to locker small christmas tree on the table and Fred always wants to -- the details. I don't know I'd say eighteen inches taller red bow on it some PD alight in some of the lockers though you know while -- sick for a would be. In his glory when we're checking off all the running he was to their -- and having them you expensive going to cut to -- popsicle. -- Knock it down it and it. But I can't say things like that just real quick I saw that bills off -- coordinator Steve their child to be named the new coach Colorado State though. That more coaching changes in the division in the bills like I don't think the -- any trouble. And utterly help young quarterback changes offense. That looked or as we talked about that continuity really get it in in the AFC's cam Cameron. I gotta be out of anything that people too is companies don't want these coaches that are in the hit the -- but radio patriots dot com web radio patriots dot com who wants and it's an email area have a a ton of them flowing in 5 -- 5437482. Five weeks 5437482 -- and sometimes spread reads at like 5482 but. You know you are capable -- sitting in this seat of actually talking into -- in the number on wall you do indeed need to look at it well I mean but that's some of the topics on the table obviously by gate. Everyone's going to be talking about it except to build ultra compatriots Tom Paul you're in on Robby he's sort of addressed the."

[8:46]" Cheating and all that well he you know he. They were asked him a lot of those same questions asked bill and Friday engines and -- built in when I'm really concerned but that would and about the jets and Rodney -- Casey said that you know -- all went down he was ended in -- the late Saturday I was I was home my count I don't really even know. What was involved in that cheating Thursday while different cheating I was involved he was -- hand how he wasn't Aurilia aware of all comment and how all of the the details how everything went down because he was easier and the questions were basically -- but with a chip on your shoulder. Because of that -- because of that but yeah I picked up with a chip -- children league otherwise can't compete and they do. Yeah and sometimes seeing trip for two weeks -- is that different trip one week Arafat had you know someone always you know -- always say something something like that he polluted to be you know. Of course you can miss thing. And and he was asked a follow up question. You know after that whole thing about the chip on the shoulder and whether or not and I'm not really aware what people -- it. And and the follow up was well that you're cheating. But that you're cheaters something like that and he looked of a guy who's that in that I don't even know your first name. While what I take that I don't even know you in an excellent nothing personal. Thank you he had -- Easter ever seen it all the sense I like bill -- daily thing well. I would like to -- those people I don't know old saying of all is basically point but the guy who asked the question definitely asked with an edge. Because that guy does everything with a -- because he's a cocky SOB and I was wondering if Rodney ticket that this guy was saying -- cheated -- you ask questions not necessarily what you're saying you're you're asking a question. Based on whatever whoever kind of -- that and people in the fact of the matter is people have called him cheaters -- On -- So I think that's what the question why but it was my body -- at a good answer to him it was that channel seven or Larry Ridley ethnic his name is. I've never seen him on TV it was here and we came on weekends and those guys. Low level anyway Rodney didn't like the question kind of put the guys play. Hang out need to get to out of the locker room before we move on ameliorate the emails. Because I assume we're gonna get a lot of them and lot of various topics on the table. Before you get -- that oh and did you guys do you care at all about this -- you know the week like it. The -- camera taping it -- against Diego leading into that game. I thought it was it was no worry was interest -- you you know he helped there was going to respond to the punishment and all that to me was relevant. Three months later after -- that the NFL and it's not a punishment. It's over -- I would care about is if you thought they were going to do something predict what -- don't -- that -- it -- the game somewhat compelling -- But I'm Tucker group about -- of national people here this week that are asking questions about that specifically. On there was even a question in the press conference about the hand and really."

[12:05]" Apparently they're all we really -- outcome struggle back to what I said earlier before we got on the here. I think the NFL so bad right now they're just not a lot of good games to even focus on though I think the networks are grasping at these kinds of stories. I think that's why the patriots scheme to it's funny I was in my work I'll be right because even those who cares about that I've been seriously who could honestly if you want to patriot -- how we Randolph but I don't -- the -- for anyone even watch that game probably. So I don't under its gotta be you look at the league every week like some of the week we -- off that he -- there watchable games Italy this is awful."

[12:42]" Has his bad team I mean so I think that their towns bills to people want to watch those teams as they fight for the playoff spots in yet another -- that the patriots dolphins. And a I don't know if he's had a trying to be somebody that probably need -- one enemy is but they're trying to get it to the point where. Their playoff contention -- audience out there that rob yeah I think we -- absolutely the dolphins that only meet the right to watch them. -- you you must be right Tom because that's why they must be moving the patriots game you know patriots buffalo patriots Miami plus it's worked -- been on might get released the next Monday that as it was a great something ever. Most watched this highest rated this -- share this so. If if it didn't work one of these weeks maybe they up doing it but it's worked every time they've done so Jimenez will keep going. There's not a lot of kind of other option member of the one after the buffalo game. We got in. But we'd have buffalo game via. I -- ago."

[13:41]" No pressure on one. My hero but I thought it certainly did I don't orally I know a guy wanted to note the Baltimore game. An eagle has that was a Monday night game and eagles game on. Yeah out rally him down cause it was a legitimate matchup -- mean like that -- a really good rating this week for the Pittsburgh. Well it should be good games of the good games mean writers like that good teams in football you'd be worthy of -- and Golan. We only have anything to put 41 -- would put the patriots -- for perfection at least the story and you know what happened was. With the Baltimore game ball in my opinion is. People want growing interest -- then all of a sudden it in around 9:40 o'clock you know what what what I can't. -- the buster Douglas Mike Tyson -- plate still going on right hole like what's going on that that'll be old by now you know. That's why it the buffalo game 56 the ten it was never competitive."

[14:39]" Told but I read the males should I was gonna get this one bites from Chris in the Bronx biologist at skip it. Because he put jets questions and -- rules and Fred -- you don't get -- in the station but -- a -- I. This game makes me nervous although that's probably a holdover from attending last year's loss to New York at Gillette. I was watching the jets. Game from September ninth the ninety BR and noticed the -- started out running the ball access which was strange to seat while Pennington started out in no huddle offense. I'm guessing the pats go to a spread offense early because -- line should handle the jets anemic pass rush while the jets will look to run the ball more more or less the top of what we saw back in September your thoughts. Well it yet haven't there. And -- an over under forty yard game. You would think this would be a week in -- tried by the run a little bit see if that works is that they don't do with this week. Then that to mean they're not going to do you know what I mean they're playing a team on the football audience. The weather's supposed to be bad so you would think you seem horrible Laurence Maroney on the field. Mills I'm done predicting when they're -- established Laurence Maroney and that was one of the only games -- were they really did they tried to run the ball early in that game and since then. Have been on a couple times but. Yeah yeah I don't know and I just drop it into that dad Weller -- bad weather team has trouble stopping the run in that immediate fifteen or so series and game. Human -- man I'm. I'm just going you know draw from days and -- whether. And who knows I mean maybe we get a blizzard Saturday night but it you know comment push to the side by. You know the field going to be covered -- off by game time it could be just normal game you know you never know the wind runs and yeah you never know how plays out but. You know judgment and is on record saying unless the other team really. Looked up to take the pass away or the weather really affects the game heavy winds that can -- the pass away they're throwing first so. I think they're going to try to throw first until they can't throw and bottom line arsenal in the locker from the -- business like excited -- one more win they've got home field advantage not bad at all. I would say it's -- cited. I players as normal. Screw around laughing. Stephen -- something from the training rumor that equipment room had it under shirt but. Because it was about the size of of a box -- it was quite obviously had something undershirt. Not in his locker and then walked back to what he's saying something -- Mo Fo. And that considering he's one of the white guys on the team it was kind of -- a lot but yeah it's at the top -- giddy this week my guess is by the time Friday rolls around. Will -- be Donte' Stallworth Randy Moss. Screw around show it again. Built up for the press conference in his proper tired in my class and it's true -- the great that is the -- it's looking really really mean. Beyond belief now -- the original one from one. And those caprice you know cut off when he's back and Belichick can tie. That's a good Natalie Natalie in order now this stuff you know it was a -- again today to an up and back that's what I'm looking for gay was that which what do you think about on -- lower on fashion. That big -- That was that little thing that by you know what's called him and he's been called before anyways -- who he was from -- under a proposal weird. Is he caving into organizational pressure right for the holiday season and wearing something new to boost sales in the pro shop it's. There's a shock Ken flanders if something in the -- unavailable somebody is at all christmas I'll get peppered at and I won't unavailable -- trivial it Joe old -- checking in to answer some of the questions about the Lombardi trophy asked yesterday. Trophies made each year by Tiffany company he has we talked about that and actually make two a year we could not talk about that. The NFL has both on hand -- the Super Bowl in case one as damaged during celebration I'm not positive -- the second trophy goes out of magic goes back to Tiffany and company. It's valued at 2500 dollar when you think about how much NFL players -- weekend. Point I thousands -- week in and week out it's drop in the bucket for Dre' Bly to have a replica -- no question I agree with that Fred. You on the show. Can be taking email quickly. Because I we get a lot of emails instead of complaining at the end of the show that we didn't get to -- I figured -- totally and try to read him yeah I know but sometimes you have to -- but give them information we gave information we talk about veterans comparable. -- listeners unlike you know that there's a little christmas tree in the locker room they don't with his appeal light in -- they know bill -- they know everything what was the giddy about coming from the conference -- to New York media you know how those can be no idea -- No I'd like but I assume was and I productive conference call the New York media and now I don't know how those can certainly not after I worked in that that he and I cheated against that city -- took money from me I thought he'd be cranky coming in from USF and by the way I don't Q were you aware of any one. Now he was asked all the the report in Newsday today I don't -- court yeah which was on fox. First but yet go ahead balance -- now. They -- you know he liked what that on past the you know when talking money in the past while preparation. Focus is directed -- I mean it was exactly the same way. He yelled -- before the San Diego game way back when point he did in a much more lighthearted manner -- the solo lit. Let me get this straight. Our fans know everything now yet through -- all for Brent. Well what do you think about that report report the one about the jets guy getting kicked off the -- last year. I actually thought it was an old glory by evidently I ever heard it I thought you told me. And so I thought it was all it's a possibility he did because he forget. Maybe I I I mean I had known that in the past but I know specifically it was last year and you know but we don't even know they don't know when this fusion has right. Game one right right and -- old they are they have permission to graduate in May not have may have who knows maybe they -- have permission at the time but now. Nobody wants to admit they had just say you know fled. Eating -- which is like. With the -- absolutely. Absolutely absolutely what the -- there's no question only finish up Joe's email he says Indy I don't know why. You're so emotional about this but damn the Irish all the crystals and Ireland is dirt potatoes grass in -- I'm glad I'm not alone I refer to get a beer as. And potato milk shake -- drunken Irish c'mon that's Joe and -- It happening -- grows and in no offense Joe but grows down there Larry Bird. The growth there and much like that he has paean commercial that they show home of Larry all -- ago almost."

[21:32]" Larry that I want to bring out on the patriots -- lot of emails from fans whether I'd I don't know their fans of the patriots and whatever but. Criticizing the pages for not wearing Sean Taylor's number for the second game last game I noticed that the -- Dealers have it most teams did you were few that didn't charges didn't. Directed at both teams that didn't -- according to Greg Aiello was the team thing they could opt opt out a lot of there has criticized the patriots -- not wearing number okay. Now yes. I don't know fight and be a offended at this -- not the last then I'm watching ESP and the year in reviewed and you guys watched that are a little bit but not enough they had we've -- emails on what are you going to the other one section where they have the the people who died. No buckle keel and know marquis. He should be offended. I don't know I would I am I mean if you're gonna make a list and pretend to include everybody in the sports world the -- last year it should include everybody in the sports world -- you know I think okay what's the criteria here and I mean. Marquis -- in the league as long as Sean Taylor right. In the commencing here -- Taylor's fourth year would have been hills or what theater on my I mean to be irrelevant you're an active NFL certainly made a couple of and I think to do with the caliber -- I think it's ridiculous I. They -- patriots probably didn't do it and probably had something to do it now I don't not and that's right that you were -- when optional on the other -- computed -- on rod by. I can understand and I certainly bako kill Roy I mean even if he still somehow government is still right now and felt like I mean there's an NFL film special on just buckle kill Roy might need to figure and it's totally patriots you know. -- and I LL I was an eagle more than a bright -- you know so. I just been in the you know what with that -- sounds like somebody just screwed up and didn't. The littlest properly a year I don't know problems are you an idea of -- Stacey James he'd meet director of media relations this morning to get his take on -- I have not heard back. He your -- on the let me let me know in mid February when god now I. I eat this Ken flanders who ran out of -- that -- wears on the field hey fellas this has -- backup in 2008 topic and at that you ran out of jacket Nikita snapped. -- I don't get out there every day it is boxes piled up for the that it's finally coming there and had an impact and -- and watched -- right now gets up on the shelf and I'm I'm into history the standards that are and it's it's the NCAA tournament. Hey fellas this is from pat -- hey fellas I'm wondering if you could force the any interest by the patriots in two a -- each quarterbacks who have been appointed as starters on the team Chad Pennington and or J. P. Losman. I don't know what their contracts are now but I'll assume that they would get cut by the jets and the bills respectively. If I'm either player's agent here's how I would sell these guys Pennington veteran game manager won't lose the game for you isn't that an ideal backup. I'm -- he writes ignore his ability to throw beyond when inability to throw beyond twenty yards. -- in great athlete could be coached in the something good a good guy to take a flyer on ignore his brutal decision making. That's Patten Ontario I don't know Losman but if Pennington was willing I'd love him he's that appears no yes no I don't think I don't think it's silly but I kind of take my. And he just stand New York if he was willing to do -- he's so well at quarterback play in this league and we -- it'll definitely."

[25:02]" He's going to be a starter next year and by the way because teams several games this year he did for the whole like he won't lose a game point and that's why you lost his job I think that they lost about five game while pushing on that team he's pressing. It's you feel like it's all on your shoulders. I agree that a little bit. There's a different scenario than trying to make them into a winner. Vin coming in for two weeks for Tom Brady and just trying to counsel to climb back in ninety just what I think he'd be an excellent backup clearly behind starter and one of the -- that comes knocking on the door I think bill -- things law law is comical I I think he thinks he's he's a piece of -- he -- I think a lot of minutes and everything -- doesn't want to quarterback. And and I heard my I agree with -- Mike Greenberg talking about this a little bit the last couple of days think about this respect how many teams would you say. Definitively that it cornerback for the next three years. Hello Paul you're not going to get to ten probably not patriots colts cowboys Steelers."

[26:02]" Will probably the -- angles I mean I try to ER I throw in the I think there have -- your birdies and saint and I don't know all of the charges and well -- rivers is you know and I and I am a huge rivers and he had a bad bad year. And if it's not a bad year next year much and I mean the the -- and -- because they've got two guys I was. The -- quite a year giants yes I don't know about that they say on the -- on the -- scholar every July was it to Mike Greenberg -- what it was really interesting because basically even if you put every guy you know my marks Lara was on with him and he he put jay Cutler. He said that he light -- Clement said he's light years ahead of Vince young and who's the other young guy. Moment via -- and outline he's light years ahead of those two right now that he put. But even if like mean brakes -- okay. I'm not going to argue with one these guys -- eighty want me to put in there I'm going to put in in it was still struggling to get help and he -- he that was one of the guys out he has a TV that would not you know no matter how many of those guys that may or may not you know rivers -- Eli Manning. You can put the -- and you don't want idiots like twelfth. That illustrate -- point Chad Pennington will start somewhere next year it's way less than half the league. And there's one elite quarterback in the draft right now -- I don't know Matt Brian Brian brom could be little liner Andre Woodson. I don't take any of those guys. You know quite a milk hyper and totally quarterback in the draft Matt Wright Matt Ryan I think you'll be one of the first career four players take the problem B yes he has him as. I pressed for a -- in the top foreign Ryan is one of them in terms of seniors that obviously exchanged quote where I wouldn't I think Matt Bryant I only hope for the patriots the move out of the position that -- because if a well McFadden flashy make -- I don't think people will help about the patriots by. Q you know playing ball with them they get that second pick in the draft you can't fear the patriots if you think Darren McFadden will help you win games the next ten years and a great player that you could get. You can't can't -- groove somehow I don't like my -- we don't have -- say that's a great trade but I can't to have the patriots. -- that terrible way to do business get out of the league you're afraid of arm but I'll make decisions you think are right I you know I think the patriots will want to move position but I think they'll be hard pressed the I think I agree with -- not going to open -- normal -- right. They lost to tell you patriots -- part of it is almost. -- trip that the two month slash it couldn't get anybody to take it. Why is that because they were afraid they -- this -- better draft that the."

[28:51]" But well one of the things those gonna say is. Word out US he has a lot of those juniors return and and try to win the national title last year one of those guys smile Luka -- the linebacker. So obviously this happens every year where people say this than me and a common now -- apparently a lot of those guys have decided together. To go back was nearly as opposed have a good and did bush pushing via all those guys. They got guys in the second all the defensive guys they say you decide to go back so that's the case my whole."

[29:21]" I don't like that quarterback what what ends up happening. Who John David -- He wanted to echo but who would they have waiting and waiting. -- you can and I'll probably four guys who could win the Heisman next year. And I don't know old but what happens with that I -- common as well I I think in many 100 January. And then you start getting hit that 3Com buying period. In all of a sudden you know -- the NFL rate we have a guys would be taken in these guys find out they're going to be a first round pick. He had -- They go crazy like you know it's actually in football league though you know it's a reason to have a career threatening injury if the patriots picked today at number two. And the dolphins eight Dorsey one do you take McFadden do you take law volley long on it -- that are 888 along the office that was long Chris on that good. He's good via his top he's a topic that you're willing to pay him that ask you who would you take read a lot of them out if he tape can't trade. He's just going to give the pickle right. I I take McFadden we have some people just going to make us the I'll pass -- like to a financial -- they want to that you want it. I don't think I'm out of that area private doctor now NFL Adam who do take having not watched anything thought the I mean what basically -- I'll go to the tackle eulogy yet. He people seem to love him. I'd love to see you know -- be one of those were greater you can run behind him -- a couple of Maroney right that's what els won eighty that I have Maroney and at risk -- nicely Maroney that -- back every African play what do you think Paul."

[31:06]" I hate it and you know how I feel what the outline a cute too especially in the right tackle. You can't do -- on paper I get out you know if I'm just in a vacuum Chris long because I think that he does all things. In them they know that he can play at 34 and knowing his -- by al groh and -- I -- I don't think they need to. Comes in Macon more than war and taught our own and I don't -- I don't think they need to -- got to -- got to take -- all right -- someone's going to be making more money and -- guys -- team. How much are you. Willing to take below quote unquote values -- don't pay the money."

[31:46]" You know the little art where it's got to take of this and of that -- aren't willing to just take you know it it it under points well don't tell him get up there because -- I saw mock draft in Dallas they epic in 31. They have emblems rebel and Cleveland all the playoff. That would you take that if you want to get attitude you don't want to pick him pay billion billion dollar hit it just take two ones at the end of the around 24 and 31 get. Why not -- It probably to get open all grown and -- like. Third or fourth round pick and you know and has a worse case nearly not only getting ten cents on the dollar you do it right."

[32:23]" Now you pick in number two I need somebody take -- do we take you. Don't want to -- first rounder is and you don't want the number two pick a what you want them to give it seem the only the only person that -- late. Right don't want which you don't want Dotel -- allowed to -- I don't yet while -- back and then let the patriots. We -- passing on the number we take the money that we we add to what we're giving the game keep him here. What you would like that. I don't think now and -- do that now Minnesota a few years ago. You used up all their allotted time and handed out I note Jacksonville went ahead of them to Byron Leftwich and and Minnesota and taking Kevin Williams. I don't think you can just completely pass and Payton and don't want it all go home I'm not -- feel like he might help about well we had a mean a lot of guys going to want number 21 right Kevin Williams one right number seven. You can't just grew around there's a them and play well all patriots we -- how it will what you need to. I throw it but I think they can do all they care and they can try and and I understand well. I think Fred that the do you really think the patriots want to be. Openly picking another fight with the NFL now. So ideal way to make it true. You come out of -- I'm asking if I think you can pass and I think you can. You don't necessarily happen. -- you know say I'm passing. But you just. Use up all the allotted time it's a mile we would that stick to leave things that we just -- and I but I also think there's a chance if Matt Bryant if Matt -- it and that."

[34:11]" the true number one quarterback that goodnight everyone one's in ulee's he got the yet the and he got different teams are you about the dolphins. Baby teams try to position -- go up and gave him in the patriot in that the team that they can drop down with a lot stickler Hitler night. The one I think that's the thing that they would like to do they need to do a great job of manipulating what's out there who's trying to do what. Increasing the value of that pick them what he. Are not everything all the mystery -- Euro entry draft picks but what about trading forty. -- and you know like or both I don't know that you could do that that's that's. That's linebacker that he'll light out there bottles and I'll I'll go on record right now adult undertaken there but that I think that the smokescreen and ultimately I think -- why -- Because we have another draft preparation yet. But there's a guy from Illinois criminal -- off him. Who I think is almost as good ray rice has probably come and all white. All I think we look at the running back position as a whole. I don't people or -- with McFadden but I think once all comes together thirty or look at the other running backs that are coming now he's not going to be. That much of a cracked out guy where you want it taken it to -- like -- eighty Peterson. He wants him beat and if I think it like that and -- top three he should and Peterson a check for a million bucks because his performance. As the top running back is making McFadden right value shoot through but I think the patriots are article -- their of people were interested in the threaded with I think they're doing exactly what they -- at -- They're trying to get people up there to get them because they don't even -- and I think Scott pioli is very good that you know I I have some questions about his talent evaluation how big a party plays in the draft and how much is bill how much -- him. I think he's pretty good at some of that manipulation stuff and they need to do a top notch job of that if they're going to parlay that pick in two. As much as possible and not a story for the come by and we talk and guys like how much of that knowledge that goes -- a couple of each -- you imagine that they'll have active in the -- 32. Oh and they have the raiders -- Christ that's an early third that'll be like a top they got a lot third round pick and couldn't get."

[36:24]" Moore who was captured they sloth like somethin' for something and and I haven't that was like they swapped that pick last year for next year and seven. There was something involved there as a picks them out there. Following tool that a trap pitchers ignoring sixteen and no team while because I think that we can all mean. Would be -- allies we offered the ticket to win this game -- And the only real question Mark is that the -- you know does that prevent you from scoring sixty image you always -- thirty I don't know. Or is. Daughter the devil on your side in the jets of the wanted to drop a couple balls you -- a couple easy defensive scores and you tack that on the more offense scored I does that at Bible patriots and the thing about the weather that I don't like is it brings her the good news is that the patriots will kill the jets on the day that. You know I like to all of a sudden records aren't good enough. We want to manipulate record they want. Randy Moss and Tom Brady to break the touchdown marks on the same play it's not good enough that they just both break it they want it to happen. On the same place and now and I come from and they want to that played a break that the the Minnesota record -- so what's the fifty something points in. Yeah that -- that on the radio I think he was those 2 with in the morning they say that's the patriots want. There -- fans and -- because people latch on to make no mistake and of people that Charles they. That's pretty guy that would equal they broke it but look I'd much rather have a question. The only playing here in the playoffs. A that they have troubles stop in the one over the next couple games like they have in the past colts come in the AFC championship game we got a -- Are used extremely worried absolutely because they can run it."

[38:08]" I'm worried about the colts anyway because they think they have the one the fans can meet them not minimize but you know. -- mind the 85 bears and the colts of this season I think -- has fallen in love with -- offense like I've never seen guys that from -- act fast and it's where we knew that -- a week apply pressure that's never been seen. Does the field and otherwise we don't know I doubt they don't have outwardly and I thought well what I should do. Or around I -- while it right which. I don't I don't get it it. -- read out it was a 3 point you know watching on TV and ask questions to the table accidentally get stint remember fumbled snap or whatever right great."

[39:04]" We got one that this is an easy way to get read on the show from -- James dropped below and England's promise of big girl was the subject heading. I agree he might be a dead girls soon the guys in -- if he's there so you really think your girl you have a little bit of angina -- For a quick email to ask you a chance you'd think there is that both Tom Brady and Randy Moss I didn't read this before I -- I was that Tom is a big girl. What is the chance of -- with the Randy Moss and Tom Brady. Break the single season touchdown record they're chasing when they played the jets. I think pretty neat IP passes and it's two TDs for Randy when he four. -- record 1982 right yet before a break so you need more brainy -- so it would have before a five I think it would leave a very sweet taste -- mouth to walk away from the -- game with both -- now what you're gonna get this week but about the other two. Prediction for the jets game. Pain paying what it says the guy put -- by you know you want to Dixon. I -- going to have more pain we come back this break -- practice session going to jump in the big chair reading email PFW progress that tournament."

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[44:18]" welcome back to PFW progress now professional our immature out of the media mostly -- you hear that radiated takeover if W progress. Is the name of the show web radio patriots dot com is the email -- finally. I put through that before too. Is the crowd turned away and then came back hitting my -- talk about Bobby Petrino will no idea just imagine what -- that last night. Five minutes with a I'm out of here and walked."

[44:50]" Out I thought I could believe it last night I turn it on sports that are deceit Neifi -- happens -- obvious he knew about that earlier. And they that it would have the press conference coming up but -- press conference -- just broke the story about two hours ago at that. -- but I'll tell these guys you know little bit more unnerving is that. These coaches are just leave an NFL team like they had -- and go to college yeah like this used to be the -- you'd want to come here and eight being him at all and I talked about maybe cam Cameron -- just coveted here to use -- the NF LB."

[45:25]" Well what is going to monitor what exactly -- that tells -- that a lot of -- you know why. That happens behind the scenes in the pro sugar honey I -- you don't hear about that the head coaches have to deal I just think the money the college money is now so well. But aside from and they -- but that can make big money I mean you can't you really need to make four million Richie on I don't know -- but the right till the pinnacle of one's career if you could do it in the pros but I I don't."

[45:51]" A lot that goes with it that is not where you don't I think one of the problems -- president I think there's so few good franchises and I think these guys get into the -- In the AC. How are we going to compete with the patriots -- the next couple years are franchises in disarray and -- I don't everyone's nervously at the tree you know what he does is is that right. But he's there look at -- that falcons team. How -- they ever going to compete in the next 34 years with everything that's going on and maybe that's one of the things European Cameron in Michigan comes call. You take a look at the and that's not excusing his terrible coaching job I've just say you look at the franchise had to like work the patriots division. Why why what I think here in order to."

[46:30]" It that Greenberg and it was just talk and -- know that you don't have the court order that you can't win. In trouble in college that Renault lost wasn't the quarterback he could win with no but that's not the point -- he traded the guy he might have been able to win here and -- back in the right he made out of realized that before he took it down. How how different you know I mean these guys don't have experience whenever. I look at it is if you're coming and you and you. First hand you know how important a quarterback in college. If you have a great quarterback don't want you to make a difference as if you just have a great athlete that lets face it Ata sixty haven't scholarships to proud -- guy that special. Everywhere but in order teachers make him your quarterback. And you develop an offense you know like Thomas -- question -- couple weeks ago but spread offense and things like that you just public gimmick. And you put the ball -- guys' hands in and suddenly organs -- top three program because they have one special player won -- art because I got a they can't play anymore. You know what when Dick has gone I think that's right you can't do in the pros if you don't have the quarterback so if you're not Manning's Brady. You know Rome all Roethlisberger Palmer at it you can't win in a little ones that even happened though when my problem. And in college college I think -- a little bit more parity. That's -- it -- national title you could -- in the is that the Houston -- and you could you could make the SEC championship -- years -- that could never happen -- on TV every night Tuesday -- ESPN -- I mean. Everything -- Out of high to be note my my point the NFL game is so different. That I think the talent to spread pretty evenly around NFL but if you don't have the quarterback in place with with the coach. You know going to win in in college. I think it is their teams that have more talent than others but it oh. Evil but it is a level playing field that you find a way to have a system to benefit the one strength that you athletic because that."

[48:33]" 180 degree reverse you know -- be completely different end up Natalia. Illustrate Paul's point. You watch a team that's going to shoot up here next year to the guy won't be -- alongs of take a better job. But butch Davis is at North Carolina they were terrible football team they won like five games this year. He'll get that team to eight or nine wins easy and then he'll go to another theaters and if you get a good coach like that could recruit you can win anywhere college in the NFL you gotta go through all."

[49:00]" Rapid such a business -- I don't -- personally if I was a -- because I I'd I'd like that aspect of coaching in obvious in baseball football but. I would rather coaching college in the pros even though I think it's a bigger deal to be in the pros that's the pinnacle of the profession. But to me -- so corporate and business. I kind of liked. Like the pep rallies in the excitement any views yes of the college game for me and I think people like -- with -- pep rally but I have on -- don't dish yeah I don't -- be quiet after that. You know -- but I'm kinda big on tradition I have been big in the fifties I'm just behind -- Right now I -- that the thirty with -- you know poster convertible but the raccoon in coat in the little panic. You know in the back I was born in the wrong -- I am sure I agree that. The NFL is that much better than college anymore I think you all. You're -- you make the same amount of money everybody knows he's not just talking about the everybody as a TV contract to. I don't know that there's that great divide I gotta go to the top I think if I win people -- and the greatest college coaching him right in politics but it -- people going to consider Belichick the greatest coach period. The greatest football coach at recruit. My point being right circles around him on the recruiting trail well I agree W right -- me. I agree -- the the past there's this guy right yeah Carrol is he's a great college coach. Right but not the greatest coach ever but because he failed in the pro right if you just make -- Alberto is that the greatest coach Belichick never did and ecology and he is -- bear Bryant with a big greatest coaches ever but he college coaches they have Brian is not it is our coaches -- always in the not movies made about him -- all -- way. And I think that I -- college football and NFL is very close compared to any other well I think there are great. And gives Iraq I think they're all yeah April it's Davis is his. You can be that great college player ever but you're never going to be the greatest football player ever until you do in the pros -- our kids you never see Herschel walker ranked among the green -- talk about culture I'm not -- about players in the pros I think -- do it at the top level to be the greatest. I think about it make otherwise. -- I just think the different game. But you'd think -- people you know and I say people mean by historians of people talk about football may consider. Bear Bryant on -- wanted to -- our coaches ever and now I'd. I don't think anybody think I think they've taken him as one of the best college coach all time mentally -- with a great coach walker Paul Brown would be considered -- he's not there yet no he's up there but I think he's in the mix as one of the greatest coaches ever. Legendary to say that he's got a legend behind. But he didn't do it in the pro. Right Joe Paterno ever going to -- the great coaches -- respect their for a over the years fifty years I don't think he's a great example I just don't think people think he's Enrico. And immediately -- some time any day but -- and I think it's going to change even more now because I think if your because of the media. That is more immediate politics or if you build a called football. Joe Paterno now he's started now as a young coach if Greg she -- of stays at Rutgers the next forty years in wins four national titles and is consistently -- top ten team I think you'll beacons to a great football coaches in history. Oh Bobby Knight one of the greatest basketball coaches ever. Well yes but I just that I think it's different -- bought a couple balls closer than any other sport and then. I think he got to go to the top to be considered. The big I just think they're different I I sit and money is different and that makes it more attractive to you can make. Too much money in college more could you don't -- for an -- and and house you have a car you don't need anything easily make -- three mil a year -- that makes it. Far more attractive to a guy and -- used to be I want to get to the pros because I wanted to make a million bucks and I don't do that anymore I don't know what the hours aren't college. Football now I can't just I wrote it's Steve spurrier and -- that that there calls read about it I think. If you do believe you have to go to the pros to be the best of the best if there's some difference there. I think the negatives outweighed gains -- crap you have to deal with is greater than -- the corporate Nextel more business in the and a right. If that makes any -- I business -- even if you get need to admit okay the NFL as the pinnacle you have to be there to be the greatest ever. While I think that 10% more. But I think the crap is 90% more hostile want to appeal as per your portrayed in because there's a guy he's in the top two -- three best coaches I've ever seen in colleges I wanted to Christ sakes. He's won everywhere he's been he's -- line offenses that look at South Carolina score points with the shoe -- quarterback has. He comes the NFL -- just awful terrible. And he says if you ask people go follow college football but they would say he's not a good coach. He just couldn't do I think my thing -- with him he wasn't really willing to commit to be a pro -- and I think with a lot of -- not -- three hours -- day -- all the crappy attitude. Even -- to do at any point tactic and with threatened Tom. I think it. Your point is more -- if I'm -- but I it. That coaches in college not knowing it -- in the pros if you feel right project failed in the pro I just makes him not to -- one of the greatest coaches right but if you throw. In an all you've done the -- right they can wonder if you could fearless approach you never fails a pro I think you can stereo -- you know you know in his coaching days in in the pro. Right plus you know as a pro coaches going gets. Other pro coaches who were can it'd better. And your players -- going gets other pro players who are better go -- the competition is -- everywhere let go ask you. It it's been proven it college coaches can make the transition means we have one of those early and don't."

[54:58]" First people that we can point to Jimmie Johnson is the one exception okay. The last stop or my father he that you know while the team while they keep -- retreads penalty hire some of the better football -- eyes at -- him where are they. Who are the better you know what I mean like. We've great pro teams yet -- these guys for -- like Miami took a shot they hire cam Cameron he was supposed to be a bright young offensive mind and it's been terrible well there. So what are we going to -- these coaches if we can't go to college and a lot of court hitters are retreads."

[55:30]" I'm asking him. I'm -- yes -- just aren't haven't and I Detroit fifty. I don't think -- coaches are going to come from I think I think a lot of people are going to start realizing young people you know what this path of being a pro coordinator coach that does that have to be you know starting in college and working way up he'll -- lot of young people. You know grab onto teams in the scouting department as. Coaching is that and I think you're going to see a lot of these bright kids. Start doing -- because that's right it bring up these kids that all their lives have been around the pro day and they learn from the bottom. -- learn every facet of being. On an organization that would make it to be a good -- a head coach they know oh I gotta pay attention this this this. You know not to I don't think you need to be a lifer in either way he can help to have both. If you're gonna go from the pros to the colleges I only you should go right to head coaching if you and go from the called to the pros I think you need to be answered but I there if you go from college and then become. Even a coordinator in the pro does not out yet there's a lot of got him I think you need to be a position coach -- you to focus on one thing. And I think -- only to start looking produce good coaches I think they get caught up in the well hoot to coach under last year or what he just look for a guy who you think can be a good coach and maybe you need to get him in place to. That's the pride double what did a quick fix there's like five guys in the -- I would like to become the head coach -- huddle up that you now. It's brought to your attention you have to pay attention to that what you are cured what did you odd that you really weren't involved in."

[57:11]" More so than if you take a guy from college to the playing golf with car dealers all the time and now he's a head coach running everything that has to do with -- is an island that's wild I would want to be cocked all of all the campus like if you notice that your office -- great job he has -- have to if you party but if you look at Miami with cam Cameron if they fired him after this year that it would never really -- that he you know if I was older I asked for a three to five year plan you wrote that built my football team. In the purity given up 11 year that you never really you'd never really bought into -- off again that we just don't know about that. The things I do I tell you that plan and we cannot be together week in and week out how to places running you can say. I don't give them a hundred years in this his work and then there's a lot of talk down. There's a lot of infighting in the locker room as the match he turned over the play calling duties and that didn't work in. Maybe just look at this guy at 8 o'clock -- he's not yet I -- it was going to knock -- down from day one he's happy and I joked that you. I -- like a season preview and the writer -- Miami. Was ripping the guy like he was Dario and seventeenth. So they clearly had seen things in training -- the -- of your comments -- You know all -- and Eckstein and now I'm in right eating before the article back in -- at the Columbine when he that you know like he'll wait to be right you know be close with the media that we looked at each other -- the other is you know you -- going -- most of -- I've heard -- that kind of GM we told -- he would -- We were. -- I've heard rumors that the dolphins are actually. Out on the market. So -- Patricio. And -- a little bit and ability in the Arkansas job hitters and all of a sudden when that that got his. Where we don't know what you're talking about you said I had absolutely no idea Miami on the block in there and that's excitement about -- never can nevermind yeah I'm an only things are you at a time a camera I was thinking about three don't that I may elect the patriots if we. That's the Oakland team you can -- anyway the bottom line. -- solid job that's why when he went you go or not whatever like Petrino. You can do with a little bit more people for elect he finished -- I I didn't daddy got named it Hooper total is reports of it to you we detective there a movement under -- and over and probably obvious piano from reports are he's going to take the head coaching job having the copper limited at Wagner."

[59:42]" But 73745 I ought to -- conference of breaking news Petrino resigned falcons coach. He claims the first contact he's that would Arkansas I mean c'mon don't -- all the -- like like eighty it's one of those probably one of those romantic things that in the pay."

[1:00:00]" You want to do with that I didn't talk to deals are on the phone for two months I'm in the -- of his -- defensive backs coach and it thomas'. In -- little interest in right normally just want to coordinators. Italy India and either. But it bright mystery knows that he's. I clean house I wonder if they laughed and wouldn't who wouldn't you know so getting back to the is -- a year in review thing. But I -- one think your -- broke this story you know as a room early two months ago. Well -- He had the trees are turning to the college game I think he had a tied to Auburn initially as a potential but then they won a big game right now kind of and -- talking. But he had this out there and said it was a rumor. But you know mr. I haven't I haven't talked to him as of Tuesday for some reason there was a rumor out there are two months ago that you want to go back to the college game. Now at an idea that year all worked out of what the top they did the top ten story lines. And is this just football of sports our sports -- we're number nine to do for perfection. Number it was Marion Jones. That was too. Plus it's not a story it's a part of it is like your man if that is just be steroid use rankings or -- but all night all I had a lot of what was -- Barry Bonds. So -- went oh yeah bonds was number one pick was like. Two with three they broke steroids up until like galleries -- that one big huge story ten was a rod."

[1:01:35]" About you know I think Jack coming I don't have other stories you could put that -- I just I think things are open. And that is it that Chris Berman top ten plays Corey and half when he played were games are they were of that. It together last. I don't think it now gets a single thing to be easier if you think that at the end of December early January I think this guy's number it actually is it time of year. That they don't have anything because the college passed balls -- submit it was capital then they might as well blow their load on the I was actually -- anything last -- will come to think it is really net they can't have any college basketball team not really many games being played right now and and the ball starts next week. Yet because I sorry my freshmen -- NBA offices or why don't hear about that our web radio a page that covers email address five away five point 3748 -- from Waterloo, Iowa. This thread is a court -- to wanted to give you guys that love got a gateway of course I had some Jewish vote. Go after all yesterday well I just wanted to point out that a Friday it suggested that -- could be flicker tomorrow you really back into that when did you beat. You guys -- a great job and I turned to all of you were accurate in for -- keep up the good work all I nailed that did you really good job in. And not have any -- and as -- in the -- I talk a -- I say a lot of like Anthony -- I don't know -- I've I've -- now to -- that I wasn't -- flea -- I was -- E -- doesn't bring -- that the guy -- been talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers for three -- like -- at last week and that doesn't -- doesn't make -- to win but he didn't take the pen and -- point because -- motivated -- have -- on the fourteen pretty -- it -- and I -- thirteen and a half and he would take. Because I told you like fraud. I had it perfectly legitimate reasoning I didn't expect them to have tight games down the stretch they'll put this. Chip the I don't know everything on the shoulder full Miguel Tejada straight -- that hope where Miguel Tejada to the Astros were five play well in the beginning of the year he made the argument that the better kids the pictures of 221 with a check what do you. How can you take anything that with the -- you're now you're now challenging my credibility on the -- with who I'm with -- that was the hekmatyar's yesterday I was jumping on European one being paid to be credible. I -- credible and incredible and -- Robert from other than the United Kingdom does that just wanting to inquire as to whether -- get a picture it to be by you guys and -- it. A threat. I had not come as I was already about you for it showed them all who by the way is not as bad as it makes enough to be thanks and I have done for you like I've built up expectations of your Batman so high that people -- go -- really. And I have seen Tom was doing well I have never read Andy though it was wondering how big is it really is. My courage vision of it had similar to that of mister Mackey. Would -- ago."

[1:04:46]" you watched ESPN's Sunday countdown they had a thing of the militant press conference. In the and the teaser at our guys also in the front row so I watched it nuclear going to be. It we worked on but they showed a scene from behind all he could he was Indy added. -- role. And -- eagles -- that you cute and leave it really. If you -- were there and he and you were just -- for that it really did show how -- your -- and I need to -- right now but it was even bigger I think Alison and -- and wallet that -- caught my -- said -- should really just be a -- life that there look at Thursday -- his big break and getting -- usually keep your hair. There close cropped what would happen if you let it grow out what look they look like chain. Really you have that kind of hair really understand don't be -- I've never really likes what you've never grown a lot now. I hate on here. This is. Two weeks long and I'd like to be three that we -- and it looked like. Free -- Allen if you wanna help and while I'll look like Randy Moss when he takes things out. What did you guys he's you do Matt from last -- is I delete emails that I read so I don't think you needed deleted from my count because -- on my own it by you on your own -- because I like to do with the way I. Okay around that."

[1:06:04]" That is just heard that Bobby Petrino resigned don't blame him but I got to think about coaching vacancies have wondered. -- think that we will lose mcdaniels this year yes I would think he would they around another year but maybe he would go as soon as he can't because after this year his stock is as high as it can go. But I do I also saw the other day a graphic -- pianist -- running backs performance from the draft class that Maroney was taken two years ago. He was third on the list behind at -- Jones drew while I'm not a Maroney is great I think he deserves another season before we callable but. I think if we had another bat -- him like he did with Corey Dillon he would be much more active."

[1:06:42]" The -- us. But -- little present you know Reggie Bush I loved coming out of the draft right here play -- I think he's -- here. I advantage can do things for you -- I thought the item which is phenomenal I admit that Reggie Bush is that a disappointment. Now the north of saint and the ball's path of the NFL last year they currently of the all the balls passes in the NFL this year. Deuce McAllister is better than Corey Dillon or the anymore and -- and split carries with him until he was injured. So could take in bush has been banged up a little too Oakland might take the approach that. Reggie Bush hasn't really gotten it yet in New Orleans because they wrote to watch it at the side that want it -- be better if you take them. Right but I don't because I have eyes and I'll watch it Reggie Bush and I say this guy isn't that good. So you can make any excuse you want for Maroney -- as huge rise does that look like the backe but we're coming out of that -- That's all comments okay."

[1:07:47]" Let's do the do we have breaking news let me finish email -- we'll get to -- the -- who -- wanted. I saw Mike O'Grady has PM this morning talking about Belichick for Mangini robbery what reduced canoe and I can't believe I'm saying this but I miss Craig. Not that I wanted to call and day after day but once a month what every month for ten seconds wouldn't hurt anyone that. Eric."

[1:08:11]" I go -- back in from the cold yeah well they outdoors indoors today they were indoors but get this might. -- who was sensitive artist type couldn't get used -- that there are behind that our -- like Ernie Wheldon for we got to be bubble where in practice was alleged 2 era. Practice was changed to walk through so we were not allowed entrance into the into the building. Kind of an interest in turner I think this leaves -- Wednesday -- and -- the -- thinks that worked so well last week obviously courts or weeks there was good reason there was a short week now an understatement yet slightly. I don't know -- taken extra strong because you know walked -- going over actual you know they want everybody -- when you can take that. 12 but there we got to that we got that the bubble. We're standing outside waiting for the call to go in and then. One of the PR people's arguments in your -- just wait at least ten more minutes away from start which little bizarre. -- our cars and then commitment this Eric. There -- just -- that we don't even know what the black shirt. I raise central laudable one of -- Chad Jackson was another thing in the walker and Nixon who's -- On things -- doesn't so so that it would walk through today which you know okay. Get some -- My -- have been from the media. He -- he built just cited you don't want to win he's one to do that off and he doesn't like to win a -- discuss you know what walk through and is going to fly by the seat of my pants this week. So you think it is now trying to monitor everybody -- problem rest everybody right now -- shall we actually think. When we really -- Brady I heard him say taken it easy on her legs are so maybe he was heard about it -- So maybe he would inform them that they haven't -- anything else when I had. But that's vote after practice today there was and there are you know these guys take was that the locker room was light. In oh absolutely it's yeah it's definitely consistently yeah. Guys you know joking around getting along expert I've never listen and like it -- you know can do wonders for chemistry. Good point Fred. That is true there were raving about the chemistry being perfect they needed to do with a perfect record. If it was a game at a point -- you can -- my point if let me ask if they -- nineteen don't know when the Super -- com -- kinda hunger and decide everything --"

[1:10:55]" Well I mean I think those who think by human -- I think our I think certain players will -- have a hunger like Brady. We'll always I think I think you need that infusion of guy's gonna say don't you think you might be good to take. They house thank -- for the he'll call those guys are gonna say yeah thanks for the -- you need to bring in those one or two other veterans who have been in the legal longtime never want anything to keep that -- I think they're going to be a totally different team and they'll -- natural drive because. We've talked about -- Jason Taylor all but I mean there's to be much turnover especially deep and we blew the whole defense going to be different in the back. The back end I mean. The secondary can be completely different linebackers to be completely different receiver could get pretty dramatic facelift I think they'll be enough turn over what people say is a totally different team last -- last year now I don't Tom. Your little down on them but man we can get Reggie Bush I think we can figure out what to do with all of a lot of saying he's not I still think he's going to be a good player. That can't. Because a lot of people think he I don't think two years I I thought he was going to be an every down back I thought he could take a -- and get a little bitter. And I thought he'd be fine and obviously he does he's not fitting into that role. First round pick and Reggie Bush to give -- our second our I thank you could do -- Was I think you're cutting can now take it -- unloaded permit you want -- you're giving you give Belichick Reggie Bush and he won't be better beat down that -- who do exactly that -- that receiver. It administer it better Kevin ball the states do that too I just don't think they have as many weapons around them right that you you can kind of -- the -- Brady and -- all trickles down from there fill from Boston and you know now. I'm I just a record for practice that press oh okay soc has been going to early December ESPN's doing whatever you -- go in the -- but the fans are all -- two -- I love it last year we'd get nearly as I I thought about the draft. I tell people. I pretty much. It sixteen and I was thirty in the book -- even doing all right. We played that he -- it is what it is going to be don't know -- her or us in Diego most likely yeah. That's 45 Pittsburgh -- that problem or bills will. -- worried about it Diego but we'll turn and I always people here who -- who. Well -- I mean that that the big one up an idea. I'm forward around Pittsburgh -- back here to be honestly because I think they they played with a yeah perhaps I agree the only thing it always will be healthy and be going deep."

[1:13:34]" I was the only thing I would say about and Diego it -- You think your state if they put it together and played to the best at their abilities they complete with the patriots but the thing is with thirteen games and and we haven't -- they hate each other. I gonna put it together when they're all. Hate each other we have not seen it once so why should you fear -- I don't know play I don't fears and I think its brightest of the colts I think the Steelers are more mentally tough. Diego I think of one singles that for the chargers early they're I I a Buick at all -- but I I really do with -- has -- I think the only team yeah worth. What you -- are always threats -- is okay you can spread bigs it's just defense domination now and colts win what I would I would agree with both Fred and I think time -- if you pose this question if it's no here. He -- and -- got the boss because they're not lining up Joseph Addai and running and on the patriot wrote if they have to run and not going to do. And I I know if they they run the ball reasonably well and I -- but I think he's played really really well. But I don't tee down winding up saying here recounts were going to run the ball three times for a first down against the patriots we know you know that we're going to run it I don't think they have success doing."

[1:14:44]" You know we talked about the earlier in the show you know about. Wearing about the patriots being able to stop the run I think the patriots. Any team that wants to come in -- we're gonna beat -- with our running game the -- a gulf war because that's going to limit your possession of the -- tied the score. You know and that's fine you want to go fight -- don't give up the big play pay."

[1:15:06]" I'll look at as something to do with the linebackers are just wolfman. They're just smoking in all were on strike plays. Bruschi and say allied -- out there there -- older but pitches well there's no other way to put it you can see it like when you saw parker takes a little -- plays UT Bruschi and stay out trying to come over they just not quick enough. And I think that was one of the advantage added Thomas on the incited to get that more than athletic ability there they got to address that situation this coming offseason note no question about gun. I would."

[1:15:35]" He's content to let the other team score by taking time I'm saying that if that's the way you want to be with your running game I'd rather have you do that then passed. Ball I don't agree with that -- shoot -- NFL's -- 55 to want to beat up the pace of the game they want you -- trying to have an urgency that you need to score quickly. They don't want you don't would pit road in the first drive last week and taking eight -- the clock they they thought I had only keep patriot offense off the field they don't want you -- figure that they can score pretty quick to you know. I think that. They're not afraid of teams' running games. You know if you are different argument -- and it you can't beat the patriots by reading the ball because -- too good that I got really not letting that I'm and that. You're -- limit the amount -- points you can -- if you just -- limiting the amount -- points that you're going to give up by limiting -- possessions -- it available actions that are equal -- in the game -- let everybody -- the ball ten times -- five -- you -- aren't -- but you can't -- open -- drives by the opposition -- good for the opposition -- patriots end -- but -- the -- he -- come up with a -- do you -- you know -- have to -- to -- the patriots implied -- I think your -- under the assumption -- New England is playing with -- lead at that point. -- pretty even game. But their apparently and it and it was ready to signal anything along time score that's that's -- the -- I pleasantly thinking that way you know I think I have a -- and I'm thinking of the Baltimore game."

[1:17:11]" With 48 hour winds forty mile an hour winds I don't -- touchdowns which -- I don't get it would've been a blow out. It would -- below well yeah right so from -- I would do is show -- Tuesday show last night I agree with -- about bill. Doing the -- that would everybody expects the patriots try and run up scored on day. My instead of having the quarterback taken me three times the last possession quarterback should take it -- three times at every position during the last ten minutes of the game. The message would be that we can win the game -- our team tied behind their back the -- Belichick media members wouldn't be able complain about running the court but in reality will be even better way to humiliate. In opponent. Week to him in the league. Q does when he does dropped it and Doug Flutie I can you feel bad for the players if the patriots win fifty -- the."

[1:18:05]" Whatever now now feel bad for anybody's islanders -- because it away. And I played played better yeah I also don't think it's really all that related they're going to lose -- does not because. The patriots are better than they they lost 343 of the cowboys cowboys having mutual approach it game and the patriots didn't have a grudge against the bills on the and the Redskins and they blew them out of the -- water. Right though it the patriots are better they gonna blow out some teams -- want problem I have with if the jets is Kerry Rhodes thing. They could blow out the kinda like that bill that's -- old Parcells Belichick they were all poor old has been lucky the psychology Belichick -- all the time we're just trying to get the and stress I -- a little different when you could get blown out. I think it's bad if you sit after the game like -- this is likely battle that. Patriots come out the fans -- when I say the pitch and actually Ichiro because they like to be -- I think this is Kerry Rhodes lady you know we're not going to guarantee not that we're just going to come -- hope to play well anyway."

[1:19:03]" Yet I -- I think it's -- inning as lockers and I'm just hoping to stay within fifteen yards or even this week you can't do that so it's not funny it's not they should you -- but why you know why the same thing. Like -- I think it's very so I think -- the last time we played him you know we were just you know -- they they'll run out clocking a forty which just -- make it competitive game member of the Denver playoff you know but see it's not true because he's a good football team that's my problem. Like I think Joe Gibbs coming in with a team that was whatever they they added I think whatever they're -- and south of we execute our game plan anyway stink and they know they think I don't think any NFL players have taken the field not -- I think they know they stick. I think they know they stink and as they said if we win this week it doesn't change anything we stink. I give them more credit than I think that NFL players and that they can I think when you stink you c'mon you stink. It is trying to get them -- anything you'd just reading over backwards to make I don't. Heartedly I think. Eighties and beyond apple I what if we win that darned good I don't put that 100% I just think he went to art admitted to going to field."

[1:20:08]" On the phone right now is Craig from the Carolina Pennsylvania Pennsylvania -- Craig okay very good as usual Q --"

[1:20:18]" They want to get back to the running the ball against dispersing -- passing the ball against this. I think that most teams would rather run the ball just because our linebackers being an older they want to wear defense down at the game goes on. Rather just pass down the field and getting our defense off as soon as possible they want to keep them on there as long as they can't keep Bruschi -- there tire him out --"

[1:20:42]" I think that the team has the -- in an adequate quarterback they can make a pass and on the same linebackers you're talking about because the same. 88 that you effecting them in the run game effects of even more coverage that's the way I feel. Like totally. Cut ties with your argument now quite nice I hit it if they want to run the -- they go run run I don't want to be. I just don't think the patriots deepened as they go ahead run on how does that make it European literally read it will little lineup we're gonna smash you in the ball. Yeah I don't -- I think the patriots are terrible at right it's not like they're that bad and I think they're going to have six other got back to back 100 I don't think. Plated the run on -- Have that try Abernethy that the players say they'd like to get Tom Brady back on the field as often as possible. Team running the ball down the field is not the best and they they will run it on the field and things that. If that's your game plan we welcome you try to do so by using that you think is a better chance -- a team is going to be able to pass the ball down the field that he's able to run and yet and that's a whole different than I -- as usual you and I wasted five minutes of Ayala went on aggregate. I just think that I think the patriots are more -- as as much as what I put that as a what we're talking about the run because of the last couple games what -- Although I look at defense and -- here now I totally agree with you and stuff that you were talking about limiting possessions was completely irrelevant. We had another one of our normal argument that I knew it was wrong when the first caller called him out so we changed his argument."

[1:22:16]" It's appropriate I think it's great but -- a question quick. Yeah the other any chance for -- last couple games that could bring back field unions won you know --"

[1:22:28]" Here -- most likely that already had the one game where they wore the old that they had a don't know buffalo the dirty little out there. You'll -- two games per year but they. They don't have the red jerseys -- production right now but next year remind you they will win the -- but it's not the broke back it's a red alternate red alternate -- I think I went away with the light -- but it's good so planting the silver has been definitely I thought it was a -- out of -- patriot I think I think it's the current design height of its red is the -- Illini now it. And I don't nine when the fiftieth anniversary I think all the eight teams are going to -- it robe yes that's good. All season I put all these. Policies but I don't see I thought they would going to the throwback but he anniversary and that was going to plant -- overtures. I think they want to have 3 go and I am I gonna have a right yeah obviously would be a third one right right which would have created New Jersey so people quiet approach the red. Right and because this over one -- that's terrible will third or Jersey -- I don't like it didn't come out the way they thought it would activate either time because they picked that -- without it they can look at it without making look like the Diana raw wood where it's hard to make something. It over. You know it's terrible. And we don't want to look like Bryan Roth -- I thank Greg you're right correct that's correct."

[1:23:50]" Pennsylvania I honestly feel on the line for hours that it would on the -- until they do radio show. Right he has that sitting on my couch and eating my breakfast and return at what that are it was ugly mug to the elder. Talking about the whole Belichick Mangini feud he was on sport -- I guess so and Bob Bryan to document mollen. Modcast sorrow but you know like one of the patriot deal -- go to I'll exit question about it. I like when those guys talk about like that."

[1:24:30]" You know Belichick you know -- and he said you know this guy was -- you know IQ wait for making copies in cranking out really really went on to they'll tell you that. Who says that that's like elderly thing about it hatred I mean -- Quentin bill opened up and tell you that's how he feels about Mangini while because I'm going to guess I'd guess now. That he didn't feel like data on Mangini trees extrapolate right at an NA like to say what -- thing. When I don't you know and look I don't know for positive short but it still doesn't let a lot of people know it's you know. I think like this whole guarantee thing I don't think that's what that the players -- it when he started talking about. The -- the patriots wide receiver corps and Welker and in you know. -- I think they're the wide receiver today and I think clearly bothered them but I think that guarantee and didn't help either. Actually -- loss was pointing out Smith on the past and repairs colon and zone in the crowd -- was they were mad at Smith is no doubt about it came out from Roanoke rapids North Carolina wanted to give you a heads up. I something you may or may not know today is 25 anniversary of the infamous snowplow yet. Them showing. TV while ago if you had separate. You know we have someone in this room who pretends that huge Drew Bledsoe Spann was tight with through all that. I -- Boston Herald spoke with Drew Bledsoe this week talking about what the patriots are doing and I'm really. Tony and as a Roddy once again we've got Ralston is done I don't know aura about him leaving all his Dustin breaking me so what is or let them have to say and he down just going to hurt you that's not having the greatest team owners you're horrible. Who I care anything -- but as a Roddy he's the ball as well as really shaken up about he's going to. -- in my book. I'm here back then it was. -- so I don't know who was talking about jumping but -- I was really good engineering through let you failed to -- is a big difference between college and NFL coaches that stripper the time put college coaches have three times that time off NFL coaches equipment we did mention. It's a whole different ball and we go to that spurrier of Chinese made an email stripper has -- are you guys actually did mention that. Email seven B -- did before. Well to give Vermont one of questions I continue to be blown away by the pats ability to completely abandoned the run and be so productive. Is there any history of teams doing this and be successful. Do you think we -- in the possible start of a new era of football were the teams put all their focus in the passing in the running game becomes in half."

[1:27:28]" Their last three years and goes -- to grow with -- who and then that'll -- and it didn't start right now in San Francisco's kind of 270 ninth but there's been a trend toward -- the last few years ago. And rule and everything I think that's been a big part of that you're -- at the saints they don't run the football you look at Seattle they don't run the football look at the cowboys in -- the football you look -- the patriots around the football. The cowboys over out of that. Nearly as a -- much as other teams they -- just like they don't really wanted to add anything Packers most a year didn't run -- Packers to run the football so I think teams just take advantage of the rules with the have a good quarterback related we just -- like the top Atlanta and -- yeah what defenses will now it just -- look at the offseason of point if you talk about the bills huddle offense. That could be stopped by anybody for 23 years of that team kinda caught up with David it now with -- to win the Golan."

[1:28:22]" This what's his name brought this Hannah. -- talk to him because all the passing teams are dropping linebackers now point 67 yards deep. And he says eventually the best way to counteract that is from the dive right Adams and he projects that they'll be coming back to power running offense run and I've yet they've got -- response the three years from now when defenses like Tom as a deep -- made the adjustments who knows him be everywhere click off I don't -- what I'd try to get a lot. His glory everybody else could be tough guys that are smaller but faster and better and -- I like Larry rocket comes just that don't exactly what he enemy the media puts it to -- Indiana's now those of us that they don't -- the -- they want -- happy with all the sudden they'll be really can't have a running back -- thirty -- I would say that and I don't believe. Maybe you guys come up with a team. I don't think any team is on the ball this little and won the super ball to the -- at all. He had 1500 I'd have to look at numbers is -- with some of those. 49ers teams Marie and I back I don't recall them running the ball very often with Montana but what I dragon yeah -- He was a pass catcher that was it. But he was pretty gambling on -- 200 yards -- a one thing I'd say why at a hundred yeah but I have to look at what he did at the yard yes. That's -- that's -- Marshall Faulk had a lot of big plays that's right not say how many times that they run I just I don't remember Lotta teams running the ball eight times a game at the it is I don't remember that there's no question that. Roger Craig had more yards and -- Maroney. But did -- niners have more yards rushing in the patriots that's but I impeached and I also want to seeded Marshall Faulk and Roger Craig and some of these guys hit the thirty or forty -- righty guy that we think mostly should be hitting. Running the -- like Tikrit was no question Roger Craig was better. Production better player -- Maroney finished -- I'm not trying to my -- and man he was proud to be -- and he I didn't mean I'm sorry I have -- like mental image of knocking in. So I look at bat a little wrong what you mean I actually it's run weaver doesn't get mad at me Kevin and -- on the."

[1:30:30]" So right now that. -- catering aren't good virtual compliment. Thank you a distinctive statement that were fortunately Russians even that we haven't -- Russian -- level. Couple games so and it would be good numbers to go about it --"

[1:30:45]" Upper that was that that was that was it was neat that's who now fourteen -- there's like and so -- at twelfth and first game. It was you know that he data when they're not running having him."

[1:30:58]" An agreement at a question -- what I developed the tickets for do you put tickets for the -- games in the post season before -- we get there. -- disorder if you know the dates for them like -- know that divisional and if he -- you know eventual."

[1:31:11]" At the -- what the thirteen all the that are theoretically we don't know the that -- will be for that game we have pinpointed the -- out of him they could beat a Saturday in of the we think it mutilate game but that's speculation."

[1:31:23]" Epidemic of the -- sending hopefully as appearance Sunday in the prime spot between the 450. When they were once you know."

[1:31:32]" when that when New England there the -- is actually a primetime game on Saturday night is the TV game. Are they sort of pictured players in mind company party and party skip the company parties got Kevin -- Livan --"

[1:31:50]" We've -- as if from camp in Canada he he did and I -- feel bad gets -- go to Hartford country I doesn't care I just think all these stats are stupid -- and usually rise Joseph Addai is a playmaker in this week he's one of the better backs than pro football. So you couldn't help with the -- wealth of the patriots the fourteenth I don't care a lot of I have to do with Sammy or 300 some yards -- like us don't since he left the line -- second part second question we can finish his email do you think the second half of the Pittsburgh game was one of the best as a football player by the pat -- a good team. Where does -- rank among the other -- have that the team has played during this decade. In what was some of the other great ones that's -- outside that your that's the best that they held -- to aero right and they scored seven goal line stand with a pass. That was the most -- that they've been since I've been I was actually I mean you guys have a lot more games little by I don't. I remember like the last three it and as we move forward -- out wood over the last I'm sure the colts playoff game has to be one of the when they beat them twenty to three that was his total dominance from start to finish."

[1:32:58]" Dana in Chicago couple days ago I read an article by Jimmy Johnson fox sports dot com say the cowboys. Where the best team in football right now we gave Barry reasons that is the fact that -- young talent to with a explosive offense. You also mentioned that the patriots played their best football earlier in the season in a -- showing signs of getting run down. He ended by saying that if these two teams met the Super Bowl Dallas might have an -- What are you guys think are the cowboys really it better team the patriots or is it just Johnson -- for the team you formerly coached."

[1:33:29]" I think he probably believes that by -- idea a play right now I can't I follow the cowboys for 25 years and it worked for the patriots for three. Hated the way the cowboys play the fence they have no chance. None of beating the patriots -- they just thought they don't play the oh wait weeks say it every week how you gotta play the patriots defensively. They don't do what they played our quarters back they lead the middle field wide open they don't GM receivers they just don't have the -- but the allow you to beat the patriots no way the -- any rate this story I'm guessing he wrote that a couple days ago oh was after the Steelers game -- I think I knowing him I think you could make a stronger argument after those two games that. They're on the decline they they peaked early in the year but. Now we're talking about the coming off their best half of football against a good team and AF CT I mean. I think you have to they'll say they're the best team in football the other thing he's doing is trying to make I mean not that he knees and came from so please try to take the contrarian view Chris everyone's saying. You know it's a foregone conclusion and win -- plus he's trying to you know make use -- thing there now. Plus it's like compliment the cowboys as well buys or I just said that they would -- beat badly and over -- and most times he talked about the cowboys is clearly biased I don't remember those times -- What are -- Every day to day today and and why. When I say that buys every penny talk about the cowboys it's -- you can't help that as I live that I was over backwards to be objective about the countless this is me off. What to do it I want to add people are talking about that giants game obvious PM what it's like that's going to be some kind of but it real match up. The giants and I came here yet that the giants -- right picked them to beat the cowboys a second time around I like them because of their defensive front. But Dallas at all week. The original David played -- teams are real passing team could kill them Dallas has proved that twice dated -- neither one of those games and their secondary stinks the patriots will destroy did you kill."

[1:35:25]" I just real quick -- you know looking up. The 49ers teams they did run the ball little bit more often and the patriots in 89 which a lot of people consider the best one. That was the 55 to ten yeah well I think there -- the ball 493 times now. The patriots have on running at 365 times unique given. 25 carries you know if they're not going to get to that level. You know -- 25 catch every five more runs not going to get it for 93 so. Maybe the that this might be the best example of a team that that ran in and Craig by the way did have. Most of his usual round thousand yard but he did -- one -- there's that he was 1500 that's that's big point numbers. So maybe he is a little bit better -- I don't think his practice however. Yep Laurence Maroney was supposed to be a product of the system are not and I compare Roger Craig and Laurence Maroney."

[1:36:15]" As far as a product of nothing bad that's the thing to me when you watch the colts would make -- on the football -- those other things to help this team win. With the patriots don't want Iran. Maroney as the non factor though he's really no part of this -- the number of that does not even close but I probably get what eighty per editors that profits. Maroney probably -- forty. If that lucky if he's you know and that right there number. I want the -- the field even if the ball he's out there over regional bill would put him on the field he thought he was given out we can make the argument that no other team and no other coach like Bill Belichick. Which is personnel in and out that's true but. You but I never that your opinion on this ligament what was that I don't think. Any team what you guys around the patriots but that would be an argument for why he should be in the mix because it's not like -- that guy or guys that always play. He moves guys in and out all the time I don't should be in and out -- be in. What -- but I think it's not enough to have now -- that are right that you -- but let me ask you this late in the game. They had a chance in the football that if -- expanses -- what Wes Welker. To be that's telling because while that they just wanted to get him on the that otherwise I got that I was satisfied to get -- especially thanks. The walk he was called out what -- game and made fun of Wes Welker we're going to make sure he has decent comes -- that I only had one catch him he has done."

[1:37:45]" the one thing that I would say about that that you we will Norman -- TV show you they were talking about and on on radio about how the running game Manila. Over the top defending everything the patriots to a they normally do. The one aspect I thought they had -- that's on his -- when -- on with them with -- for for what we already know that you don't listen that's true and Amman on anyway and that tells no this particular passes. So Welker that basically with their running game. -- that's -- the -- those aren't going to be complete they're not going to -- intercepted and we're not going to give up tacked on three step drops into yard throws that's a -- run the ball and and rarely agree with acting the top at that at a time that you should be running back out there because -- the -- to -- Now there can't that we can have an incomplete pass on one of those plays -- drop you know I mean we don't we want to get the clock running. They threw the Barnett drive twelve straight plays. They completed nine in a row in and Brady had three completion to -- that drive and kick the field goal this great drive mean they went 89 yards something like that."

[1:38:54]" I think I've still got a coach -- touchdowns -- five it is such you think even more so than they are the offensive line. To give them -- you know what I got he's got Casey get one of these whether I think he. -- go back and forth I've got to the point were right I just don't think it matters. I don't think it matters and conventional wisdom says it was a matter you know don't you want to do that don't you want to get in case you get into I don't think there's any chance. The -- get into a game with it won't be able to roll and you know and apple Toronto. Well at its -- in the best interest of his team and wouldn't you ask him where I'm at every I'd be -- that anything's going to cover -- base like he was ready for us -- I suppose late in the game try to beat Bill Belichick and Josh beat I think giving. Like I -- a legitimate argument because we you know beat people have been. Quoting the price els with the weather gets in Foxborough you have to run the ball partners my old so what. If -- Bill Belichick what's your art is my argument I think they party Kumble conclusion admiralty that's my argument I think they know. Already know for sure what we're we'd been -- suggesting here and build -- you'll see anymore on the field. He's not tough enough mentally or physically and bill's going to be and what they're doing is because they have to not by choice. All the throwing well they didn't Wes Welker I I feel like he gives me a better chance by throwing the ball two yards downfield. Sometimes he's going to breaking -- 22 sometimes he goes down there but it's best option I think yeah I think he feels -- live a better it's getting a first down three of those just Welker. With three runs might even when even when before Maroney got hurt there in those games what they had the lead sometimes they put more in the game started run the ball all the they never do that with Maroney either going to be raising -- to keep make it up these excuses all things being equal do you think. Belichick would rather run the ball and throw now now I'd think he'd rather do something successfully. On all things being equal each will have -- hypothetically you'd you right now I feel like hit me why the question you can't. -- mean like -- in the fourth -- about the -- on the ball and I -- but I think he'd rather be successful. That's the ball and -- identities. Fred and they but I feel like bill it's never going to be like that what exactly -- make believe you're gonna have other medical LA -- that the pregame show all the anymore again. Well look at buffalo thirty he gets the run they -- they on the bills would need to try to run. So bill always looks at teams they have well they can't stop the run let's. But he doesn't know it would world -- got the re do well against Dallas the better I think quite wire -- that's something that the patriots. I think it was and B -- movement -- that it forms I have a quick rant if you see the final and voting numbers. Did I read it correctly that Matt light. Is leading I believe it left tackles are number two nick catcher is in the top two game open is in the top two. And the other dormant in -- last week last week Mankins in -- where woods three and four. See the guys who I think should we can't answer that was two and casual was three I think -- it was two and -- and I blinded by the fact that I like Logan Mankins. -- now about -- that's how I think he's been in the -- I think he's a patriot best line radio how vital that into the night actually notice that I try to those things I think you hardly ever notice that the -- a great linemen I just he had to private people that all the time he's immediately the plate I was not the mind that the -- better bump from coaches and let the guy I know I am -- for sure the guys notice the most is -- But it's not necessary because I think he's the basket I knew Tom I think Mankins the past -- I stealing something I seen it and he kneeled down field making plays base because he's been best athlete but also kick return team around here."

[1:42:45]" Whatever that is an offensive line is that whenever -- just say that whenever we get -- that they've done -- and voting how many times at the conclusion of the fan voting that's how it ended up. Because two thirds of it thought notes now. But I don't even I wondered and it really matter because if two thirds as player coach maybe that. Maybe it's just a formality I I can't speculate -- to I think I'll let it it's a post I mean it's got -- matters I think -- the guys that expect no but the guys that win them the coach in -- work against him -- ago this year. How does that work -- Mankins should be I think he'll. I'm I'm going to pretend it's my -- who -- which -- the offensive -- Alexander -- good instincts he -- like -- I don't know -- it is a pretty -- left after that terrible -- played the patriots -- abdominal -- of Richard -- I think -- thing where -- them every now -- those -- attitude -- something that I -- I was reading that. The other PFW pro football weekly. And they have this -- perception and yes and the whispers that about Richard Seymour that word at Foxboro and that's why he's been limited blah blah -- first -- was that it is yes it yeah it's just whispering when he said it. I thought that was threats that about before and I think about. More kind of breaking the whole patriots way you're talking about not being that you know surprise that he would not very possible that in the question that's."

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[1:44:18]" supposed to -- that here but what does he care I think Seymour is always been one to not necessarily those kinds once upon a time I thought it's in the hit created he was out of here. I think we don't and they don't -- check in front of him and he cashed -- we kind of speculated on -- years too because he was shuffling in and out he didn't seem like the end of the energy industry and then this week flat out signs stretching his his hamstring his -- Significantly on the sidelines though it was like something was tightening up that he couldn't get loose. And it was clear also that they were just going to -- rotate him he went to the sideline after the first series but it knit hat on. And I had you looking for an easy injury whatever in the comes back later it was clear it was some sort of every other series or whatever they chose to do."

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[1:45:23]" Yeah. I've never heard that it was all one. Seventies Marilyn chambers was appointed Johnny -- what you. Schilling that was class I'm not here and I don't think that an English I don't I have a guy that shows caddie -- it is English with English class I don't think you optimum point. I was a base he was talking about the original within. No it was more again I had a that would they have -- home you know credit classes this short why sign up -- I really want to -- also as a mode probably way off base here but the said you'll need to be pulling up a little bit defending the run to protect themselves physically. Now actors -- make attack the other night whereas that I would've gotten out of the way. I'd protect our butt and I am not going to tell you guys here would John Clayton. For ten years of 100 million dollars in meal well Marcus Trufant. And yours and others is you've octave regions what do you. In the season if that's Mike says Fred is by far the best my title as the completely ridiculous statement but I felt right could use a little ego boost my question do you think Belichick cares that the running game is not very successful or is happy. To tossing the ball around -- they're winning what it would wipe out here and I mean he probably he'd rather successful than not rather yeah like it was earlier in the year. But long at least or so points and move the ball. Bottom line to win games you to be by just one point was okay these days highway and I think they've come to the conclusion that we have to do with -- we are written. You know we used only would -- world. Which in a I'll let's see this is around. Chris in the -- always recruit emails to -- once -- the game make me nervous that -- he's talking about although that's probably hold over from attending last year's loss to New York Yankees in Yankee red if oh so far behind you -- reads them even today -- the only ones that they've spread as the greatest. If he should know what -- just right no one's ever seriously thought he was the greatest teams at north says NFL instituted the vikings world which they team -- on as many chances as it was but. Must provide the NFL all this with a proof of them. And his different the 49ers looks like that draft spies and to be quite as good because they just like Chris Weinke. Oh so terrible when I'm. Now."

[1:48:01]" That was funny I was watching Heisman trophy thing the other day that he was and showing -- panning from left -- right in all of the older guys who laughed and it was like little warning was both there and all these guys you know -- I think was there Aaron. And it -- the guys you know in the 2000 and you know late nineties -- 2000 like you know. We're shines on looks like by the way he ate the University of Colorado or an old bald cap and then all I need to. It you get to -- EMI while he should be double play. Eight to ten years old and everybody around him. Was it was really really really look at old Chris Weinke was going to -- like is thirty right idea mr. 120 lately drafted right now. 2001 -- how -- he was that game that you don't there we went out there the last game of the year yes and no one. I was quarterback -- Tony says question what was every guy in the offensive line drafted by the patriot now now. Light was Mankins was open ones radio deal was non drafted free agent. -- measure he got brought into the -- by the patriots yes my draft now. And now Tom Daschle was a draft date 9 was thought he we ski team from -- third round pick in the fourth so more from actually -- expressed. Yeah -- days it was free agent right yeah he was in Miami before the patriots."

[1:49:25]" I'm Peter has that in terrific thing I'm not sure if the true or not Paul maybe you can answer the ball like and I that this is that Belichick -- that Belichick -- kick -- but then then Andy would be the one -- just that kicking off of the ravens 35 pats could have kicked the ball out of bounds and by -- the ball would have been -- thirty yards from the spot of the kick at the five yard -- he's on prepared to coach in this -- that's not -- beat the rule is thirty yards -- reject or -- went out of -- on the ball -- gone out of bounds -- and not Enrique. So who would necessarily have been -- bill was wrong and I don't that it Beatles in nineteen and a half -- didn't know adults so he is not prepared coach in the RJ I just wanted to say it was great to see some -- for -- the fence I also love seeing the ball that Chad Jackson's hands I was so excited to get him. What I spent a Norwalk or not watch it then maybe he misjudged it but one of those kick off he caught look tough. I remember watching him in the best -- competition coming out of college that one of the big thinks he was known for. Hope he and more in the future that anyone go to the Steelers locker room after the game. What was the feeling as far as all the talk the week before later showed. I'm Thomas there."

[1:50:43]" I was there. Basically just they all had Smith's back pretty much in. You know he felt like they were going to win that game in. It didn't lose just he said yeah a lot of hopefully will be back here for another chance in the playoffs are really wasn't much trash talking going on it was more you know. They got -- in. I don't Hines Ward pointed to the time they got beat by Indianapolis a couple years ago the regular season but with their one in the playoffs always that you know there's still hope our season's not over blah blah blah. I like someone who edit this is the measuring stick with it along we -- I was at a job but I I like I did love. His coaching performance in the second half because I think and understandably he got out coached by -- champion for your coach. But I I kinda like him as a coach he's got to figure out how to get his team to win on the road because he's got the patriots okay but he's got a bad losses for a world."

[1:51:38]" On the -- from Roxbury that don't know if you read the sports section of the metro. This morning the article is essentially Eric talk with -- branch and -- about if they miss being here. Or they wished they were here for the run for perfection. Both that they don't that they are happy where they are that I think -- cock up. I take a measly million plus and perfect season with Kerry strug who won't prospects over what those two currently have right now with -- the right but either way."

[1:52:06]" I mean you can't say I hate my current team that has other I did yesterday and Harold it was a power -- to the AP AP -- Oh probably appeared a lot of places but I do and he can't trash your own team and I also think that. As would be to solutions to a an enormous level I've found out just how little. That aspect you know the whole winning aspect not that players don't want it only happens when you get older -- players. First and foremost. Managed to know I'll have to be captured at they're career so short they've they've basically their entire earning. For a lot of these guys is in a five to ten year window and the timing got a college. -- they need to make as much as a candidate Gramm. That would have been great if he could have made the contract that he got in Denver here but he couldn't. Though he laughed and I don't think he has any regrets about the -- line at all now I'm sure this probably you know -- when he fifties that they seem to be that went right -- After the missile but of that but bottom line is Paul's -- looked up themselves there's no one else's. I tell you is doubt anyone -- anxiety that fans would be the most to find out how many players really mortgaged a new contract and and winning."

[1:53:24]" Early we were talking about how the patriots got the or what was involved in the pitchers getting the raiders pick. -- draft this stamp from Denmark. Ice at the raiders traded their 20077 round pick in 20083 round pick. For the pat 20073 round pick. If you can remember the pats drafted only one player on the first day meriwether there will be 23 round pick in the -- draft. And the raiders star forward. -- that's going to be like a top third of the hitters early during their third round early third round. Rich get richer. Passed them on pick manipulating everything he knows that picks that I really think the rich get rich and those -- out of the -- you know second third -- and -- collective -- and that's what you all patriots -- I don't really good player that Chris from western mass also says about -- patriot getting out of the pick this year. The patriots could always trade for first round pick this year in one next year looking to get rid of the second pick they did it once before the day you know. But I don't know how willing to team's going to be you know to do that you can look badly the niners."

[1:54:34]" Okay and on the phone right now from. His mother's basement is John wrote John how you doing."

[1:54:40]" Ready what's -- man what's this you know talking about everything today. It -- have been a lot of discussion on you know the fact it may -- the jets were the ones doing the spying as well couple years ago we talked about it earlier but it seems to be kind of you know either -- I knew that not a big deal or. You know this this is so much ambiguity of that whole story they don't even know what they happen. I see the way things are getting -- yeah I just kind of feel like it if there's any truth to this at all and -- we always know that you know the answer -- always somewhere in the middle would if there is any truth to it what it tells me then he is. Eric Mangini is not somebody that I would trust our hiring him from an organization."

[1:55:22]" you -- we talked about this yesterday in Beijing is taking the heat for this but you know. -- that this story the -- when the when it -- the -- to happen during the game in the door it was leaked by the head of -- security to a guiding the and -- fell -- jets confidential online and then -- got picked up everywhere now if this happened -- the -- the patriots didn't. Leak it to the press my feeling is that if the jets hadn't leaked it to the press this would be kind of play we would have heard about -- that happening but could tell would have come anyway -- down hard on the patriots that he did. If it hadn't got him into the press. So you know the question is okay who told the director of security to -- it. I'm not sure it was Mangini could have been in the back -- he's kind of be in the good soldier. I don't know there's a lot that we don't know about this."

[1:56:13]" Well I think somebody at least in their organization if if he's if Eric is if he's all locked in with the jets for the rest of his career. Then I think this is fine and then he can play the good soldier but. -- you know if I were in that position announcing that I ever would be but if my word -- I was playing the part of good soldier in in taking you know that this award for the organization. I'm not sure that I be very confident with that right into what I think I want to get it all out in the open have a what did then -- it what you do but maybe it that may very well big. That -- I would have to have some assurances well. All the time the time to do that -- either when we do mine renegotiation or when I'm trying to get another job that I tell my new employer what really happened here. But but before that valujet untrustworthy if you call your own team well that's what better way to -- Eric Mangini you're right and and and that's what it appears right now it looks like Eric is a big -- than he ever wise yeah that's that's with this story breaking out that's exactly what it makes it look like. And so I'm thinking wow. -- this guy is really what's right -- I don't disingenuous in being disingenuous to the right word for a but. I'm saying that you know is if Iraqi and if you only last year and then you know you're right in May of last year and that he. Did the patriots -- that's why I kinda think that maybe. Either laugh it was that the it is or it wasn't -- that -- at the patriots now yeah how well it's certainly I would get based on my knowledge and and I -- I'm -- based in your knowledge of someone like Eric it's certainly smacks of him being the good children taken up take in the fall for somebody else not a organizational you know remember this other -- you know means there was all. Story about you know the that a lot being changed your active Mangini at that that get -- and and you know apparently are allegedly the patriots were upset at that being leaked out all about -- going to Deion Branch. You know -- let you leave the patriots reps at about that it's true though another. All of his Mangini is -- about I don't know I don't know well those are good luck but those are good red flagged for an you know. I mean certainly would indicate that you know that this would not necessarily be out of character and in an effort to. You know not only win to make a big splash early which they did last year when they went ten and six but you know to create a favorable favorable impression of -- his new employers are right now like you get the subject matter teed up -- show. A little bit anyway we'll turn things over you and as far as -- W goes will he tomorrow take it"