PFW in Progress - 12/13/2007

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[1:24]" And on and might count pitch that's up a Eric Gillette stadium Paul Perillo -- the only two that decides just the show today so I have to apologize up front. I can be in home and gotten no one knows what he's like -- he doesn't work in the workers now. -- I India's -- today so like Tom and I will take Q at least for the first dollar write home. Will be joined the second hour as normal by Fred Kirsch and everyone's favorite PF that -- progress member Eric -- vina. You know prior we we just NFL we should mentioning Eric is made up a girlfriend. Hello really he got sick and tired of the -- so apparently he's I didn't hit it I have -- quotes going -- a girl for not any chance that -- that the greater Niagara Falls says well but he's being quite vague about it okay. This stunning news to me. Yeah he's I think it was just to get in the off his -- our idea that's good nose for Eric but I have bad news for another member of this show -- Fred Kirsch. I don't know if you noticed the subtlety. Top but I've been watching ESPN news here a little bit. And near the scroll it goes by I would all the different hitter we've been -- all week because the patriots have had their own -- You know pursuit of affection and replaced by the I sure. We now have a report tab instead of the patriots efforts at the end he will not be happy about is -- would say any -- the store for ESPN totally absolutely in -- Well obviously the football -- patriots know the match report is going to be two out you know an -- 2 hours. We have had done some reports on the names and yes he has been known Roger Clemens and Andy Pettit if two with a name so. They -- there was going to be some big names and evidently they want to line so it was a two CL operators for the Yankees was distributing some of the stuff at the Yankees are heavily involved but does open tells me the Red Sox who have been hammered too as well although I don't think they'll be. You know we did get a list of a bunch of names -- and all of the official and now awaits the report comes out but something tells me I'm Red Sox will be showing up as well. But anyway the patriots and and PFW a private so we don't need to get. Too much into that we're looking foot the NFL version of the Mitchell let's -- if the good news visit that was -- over and I'm -- plenty patriots would be the talk about that. It would be out of the opposite of match report this mostly as 5067 names on and I think there'd be about thirty names. Off of yet in the NFL because I just can't imagine too many players that law and I get on something and I told you Paul."

[3:58]" And I don't want to make any accusations here but. When I first seen anymore as when he played for the dolphins I said. You can told what a kind of muscle that is natural. If anyone's wondered why teams -- at all but term good. He's got bet on that has anymore I want natural ball old -- is freakish you never know."

[4:18]" And we should say that. -- shortly after you said that about anymore the next yeah suspended and I know whispers -- defense -- percent of anyway and he give me a list of the would've had to get density again I got up a couple that. He's very cold. I now we're and it's it's not too much about the the steroid stuff a little obviously taken email not -- first -- or."

[4:43]" In Nam the big loses they signed tight end yet and he is played out out of all the practice -- up like you and Andy. Thirteen games in the league two seasons for Philadelphia does that make him eligible he would be eligible practical so he may he may be on the practice blade stevens' box. And it's PA CH yet I'm not sure exactly how to channel blocker in the locker room soul and -- recent reported earlier that he was one of three players. That they tried out along with Rashad Moore Bobby Hamilton -- who I'm Bobby it'll be 75 tightly els likes it at least I can't believe this crazy -- I know I I I -- He comes in a locker room to you can -- that's got an idea. So and I think they're obviously looking for which we have -- say in the last couple weeks them in forbids them back for Vince out while I I think I don't know it's gotten more you wouldn't be -- it would be Rashad Moore and but also Seymour. -- because he would come out that he's not a 100%. So it's interesting that they got the two defensive linemen their if anything happens with them."

[5:47]" We got a lot up on the table take your questions -- dot here predictions for the game whatever you would like. Brady like patriots dot com once again web radio at patriots dot com and he cannot give a phone call which you know Tom that's been a big transition for the show I think over the the historic season is we suddenly we used to be just email driven radio. Where now everything we've we have calls and emails and you know guys is kind of dropped by unexpectedly now what happens if the patriots are distinct do we like our show go to -- yeah email driven radio I don't know but -- People still care about the shoulder like a base they all oh yeah. Waste of the show -- non playoff team right that's about wonders absolutely. But now I would imagine that we have more listeners now that we villa did then -- You know. We like -- think it's because of us but you know the fact that their team you know might have -- that probably might anyway I have to wait 543748 it was phone number. If you want to give us a call. On kind of a low key day here today now just. In I think we should get the Fred Kirsch kind of minutia out of the way patriots moved up their practice time in an effort maybe to beat the snow those of you not living in the I don't know in an area pretty significant snowstorm do. And it actually any time -- was -- at some point the afternoon. And we could get anywhere up to a foot of now. Telecheck going to decide to move practice -- of a bit I think in an effort to try to get them out of the element but they will be out their practicing and whatever it is the weather calls for bill that they would not go out actually in the bowl and the stadium. But other than that not really a whole lot of news coming out of the press comments in the locker room because -- more practice time up. They didn't move our -- a time cubs -- I'm in now. We were kind of in and out of that locker and an artery and then not a lot of players stuck around to the topic addressed really quickly and shot -- onto the field. -- did you get him mean and you talked Jabar Gaffney and he wasn't going to was related."

[7:50]" he's he's a nice guy building Jabari does it right at her and carried on loving guy. Did say he would like to be back in New England you know he's I asked them about the -- my first contract -- my first question was how do you go from being the Texans leading receiver. Out of the NFL he cut contributor to the patriots in you know he just said he didn't know he'll -- understand why he was home watching TV because what you want about Jabar Gaffney he's he's an average receivers -- be honest. But you could have a couple of decent season and it cannot believe it to be gotten that we should not have I not probably. When he when he got let go by Houston and went to Philadelphia. That team with those receivers had no business cutting -- right exactly no business in so easy you know he's he's a good guy like him that he wanted to be bad in. There was a little was going Rodney talking -- and he talked."

[8:43]" I was out in on Ellis Hobbs. Hobbs talks but he talked to one individual talked to Chris desperate the globe I talked to Chris a little bit about it afterwards because I won Stuart and basically he's doing the story that we do. So high in I'm not exactly sure what audiences were there but down to about how. Maybe he's struggling a little bit in his coverage in and whatnot and you know like he would well had to say about that but 11 thing that he did say -- it mentioned on Monday that the fact that he wasn't returning kicks in the game against Pittsburgh may have helped them a little bit defensively. I was kind of shot that down -- that -- that was more -- kind of you know coming off a short week. You know -- maybe a little bit of arrest and that I think he expects to be back there returning it well we'll see what happens on Sunday when the jets and the down by."

[9:39]" A may be Troy brown active went off Jackson who announced. You know -- I'm done trying to read those tea leaves yet I don't every time we do it Troy brown getting that he is the biggest mystery -- mean they activate of now he's not play right that's kind of a weird -- that. So I'm going to jump around and we have emails coming and I I'm going to gets on the little earlier today because we only usually do an -- Of the emails and I know that people take the time to write ins or want to get on them oh it -- very house that's of the other day good is that good. Enjoy that did you. There's this ought to be purity to never talk to a thousand tries that we didn't hear these 820 minutes -- but he's he -- it was -- an excellent. I don't have any Gary I'm robotic arm on Atkins I'm off Brett or next time I'll give you the bread and I'll take the meat. -- ago he's -- he's acted more top twelve. Yeah out late in the yeah I I need the Atkins last night it I get -- speak to me did you get that market sort of makes it Stephen Ames, Iowa Tom and he says when the games to get out of hand and the camera panned the crowd on Sunday will be great to -- on the Ws something like you know it's an impromptu federal would ask VFW probably have to -- somehow like got ten Ambon is a -- weeping -- Has VFW -- Abiola the quick ticket and game shows and creativity. That's pretty funny you know we we need more of following. We need lines we neatly -- We need -- like that. While that come off the cult -- never seen varsity blues yet. Now and the end of the little brother the younger brother via. Was that -- and these -- now one dollar and yet our little brother and -- one. He he's got his own Carlton about. Consult -- the things that in my mind I don't go to Africa and -- of no. Value you whatsoever we could use that call we could use a cult so taken names for our crawl. Yet W's -- K Stephen Ames, Iowa. Has has started they've they've groundswell we need one. Tom second the motion we -- hopefully this call stumbled a bit better than Jimmy Jones and yet we don't want any death we just want to cult anyway he is from Madrid and he says that it is what it is. Laurence Maroney can't run the football. My question for you guys is cantv make a good third down back out of him of somehow on day. He is close to as good as Kevin Faulk has been put his team I'd be more than happy in other words we already know that he can't -- as Tom always as. I'd TV even run an open base product that's a little harsh I think you."

[12:30]" And that you yeah I don't I -- that he can't run I said that I don't think he has great vision and that hurts him running inside a couple things defend Maroney has won the offense of line like Indian that it should not used to run blocking this year they don't on the ball at all. I just don't understand why that's why I think they don't really like him. In two whiz they don't want to why did all it you don't with the sweet stuff like that you don't see a lot of those the stretch plays out of at all that -- of but the part what that is you would think bill if he thought he was good at that would do. -- does whatever whatever. You know it's gotta gotta be killed them to be throw the ball eighty times it gave the guys at the Pensacola and he loves defense but that's the way he could win over he does they held goodies chameleon -- every ten. That's why would defenders of Maroney. I find hard because. Why isn't he in the game plan at all wire they throw him scream why are they doing this why are they doing that because bill would keep him involved that he felt he could help the team."

[13:26]" And I think that's the aspect of it when when when you guys discuss this a few weeks ago that was the aspect of and I think that you won me over on the argument. Because I understand that there was a game playing that -- so I can be active for a game right but when it becomes a month. I had a season -- you don't now thank -- 'cause I'm looking at in autumn get the rushing attempts the year okay. And for the first 56 games I think it was five games Dallas was the fifth game right. They never ran the ball fewer than thirty times will be able to run -- more than thirty times wants it. So that tells me that Sammy Morris was there -- an end Maroney was good enough to -- carries with more. And we can run the ball but now we're not running at that much because Maroney is not good enough to get a mall and felt right. The way tomorrow is going to mall himself a couple of times on Maroney was well so that was -- and I think that point that you made about. If he was good enough to be on the field he would be with Bill Belichick that you I think that's how you kinda won me over the argument now I don't think that he's a -- Think -- he's without talent I think that he. -- a chance to still be a good player I don't think he's going to live up to be right for a first round if that's."

[14:41]" The thing that term because I was a big Maroney guy to in the -- was on the field to me that's not right here and we keep the enough email -- say give the guy time. He's only two years to be lucky to get as many yards as he had last year so after two years what you're saying and -- got to back once for 700 yards a year that's what she got. And I'll ask the people out there when he first round draft but it took more than two years to be good in the NFL. I may be."

[15:06]" Thomas Jones. I would sort running back yet Arkansas that -- that position there it's different I I I think wide receivers on time you know Eric Moulds as the guy it's a contusion you know there's that are germane he was a lot of guys pretty good. But talk at running -- act immediately Australia aren't -- the easiest one to do right. It's running back you know. I don't know why I I just bank -- We've we bend over backwards to find reasons why not that good at the bottom line is exactly what you said if he represented among the best chances for the patriots to win he'd be more part of the offense in the game plan and even when they have big leads in the fourth quarter. That's not how he chooses to -- clock right and that's that's telling it like that that you don't hate. And I don't think he's wrong I don't think there was wrong -- call it solid I'm questioning the manor which they run out the clock because. I think he's doing it the best way for the patriots right in the like I that you you could defend Reggie Bush if you wanted to but bottom line is. That's not holes advertise to me -- the Reggie Bush I in the NFL was or was sold to mean I got seventy receptions on the her like it's say well look he's do it overweight. He's not he's catching two yard -- is not let him yet anyway not making big plays so I mean I think that's fair we talked a lot about that and now. The whole overall we like the third best running back. Dole's running back stink. DeAngelo Williams isn't doing anything the only good running back to come out of there but Reggie Bush and DeAngelo Williams are also got Maurice Jones drew is a good player but he's not every down he -- a guy is going to via a guy catch passes for. So we're talking about Troy brown a little bit so wanted to you know -- might. I wanted to know -- and he's very very cordial -- Tom and Fred you know including a solid dialect or maybe Fred out yet. But anyway is tribe roster eligible to play his era has it been deactivated for the rest of the season. He's my favorite patriot now -- his career and on those terms also. Could you give me want to offer a player one defensive player that you would like to see specifically step up his play in the next three games my guys are Ben Watson and Ty Warren. -- and they were like he watched him become more -- in the passing game especially in the red zone. Whereas -- to drop a lot of lately in key situations with Warren or seen him be more before a forced out I would Seymour ailing and ease the pressure off of Wilfork. Was Dutton is becoming along with a not to in brave -- Most indispensable players on the banks guys love the show cupid. That's Mike in Pensacola."

[17:35]" Well are too good choices I thought I think there are but I'll go to different ones I'm not going to pile on Maroney. So all eight Donte' Stallworth I think he's been okay here but I think he can -- little bit more is if -- you know I think he's more count that the Jabar Gaffney for instance and he could put up bigger numbers coming down the stretch here. And on defense mostly it Dale's Thomas were kind yet made -- big play kind either like we're talking about only at like him to the quarterback."

[18:04]" you know it's funny I mean I think you're Taylor Thomas is dead on perfect I'll I'll get you'll laugh at me when I'll get cerebral on offense nick catcher. I really don't think that the production guys. All sports or under but you know that if he gets more then Welker and -- probably going to get what I mean what many past you right complete. Brady's throwing the ball for 350 yards every game. You know -- four touchdowns I think that production is pretty the elected -- Occasionally concerns me is the amount of pressure that Brady is under I think catcher among -- front five has been the shaky so they can."

[18:41]" But I I know Thomas I I have another one I think you're right Ellis Hobbs I think you're right with catcher and that that kind of make things interesting we talk about the draft because now clay court talked India's I'm sure if he was here with tell you aren't there I mean any any time the just let me know Jake long. The tackle for Michigan piper believe is going to be -- right tackle yeah pros. So that would be kind interesting if that's the way they win kept. Light left tackle Jake long there right ankle but can you take your a tackle that high in the draft I don't are tackle I national I don't but I have to say -- if that will be up that if he came here I think a lot of people would just assume that he would go to left -- it would -- light over. But maybe they are him -- at right I don't know I don't know what to do that second pick I have no little."

[19:26]" We have Josh and Akron has been a first step up with names for the media PFW cult he has a few. A few suggestions Irish haters unite the -- canoe society. Chicken leg and credentialing if so I put I don't know what I liked -- we'll take it -- to consideration we're looking for roses for more. So absolutely aunt -- is next up. I was Bobby Hamilton playing for the jets this year or has it been just sitting at home all year. If you with the jet -- can be kind of like the camera Kareem Brown move a few weeks ago if you did not play for the jets this year that you got released in the pre season yet. He's been out of football I think all year so I don't think bat that what I thought was just kind nobody got left in the tank or what kind of shape the end. What -- you know we know you know the is that something happens be ready we'll give you call we I don't think that's going to be he over the next week that hump that I think it happens Seymour like you -- on the -- before the playoffs right we can plug you win quickly because you do an old system fighting here at eight. I don't know why -- mean. Re in this one because in on that subject by Thomas the best who's this intelligent and over and at one of those boys get it and as Chad Jackson from Andrew and says I'm -- first time email but obviously he's picked up 100 and tell Rick quickly. I just why argue the wall in DBs know that Fred is the biggest Tom Brady. Bill Walsh are -- out there for the more I think Tom knows that we always sitting on the and Andy -- nasal voice -- India so area just wanted to know if you think the pats -- put up seventy and the jets and your thoughts on by gate park to."

[21:15]" Now I actually haven't he's equally I don't think they'll put up seven -- you know I -- a joke for the TV show that was going to be sixty -- often had a whole thing all planned out that there execute it but. It's hard to eat meat turnovers you need interceptions for touchdowns to the -- seventy point at a football game. You beetle like I all the cowboys and that's Super Bowl dominate it make apples turtle or at the end all or 59 point. That's what you an immediate need like two or three deep and a touchdown. It's awful hard court seventy point it's anybody budget throat and a couple feet of -- pop and you'd be any better offensively and anywhere against buffalo now and may end up with 567 of those run deep yet. Bidding gets stopped on -- offense now. You know so and he says to get a couple first downs and -- the -- given credit got to give him credit though got a first started to I think if if if they can play like they normally play meeting the weather is a huge factor I think you look at 48 to six -- forty single digits probably in better."

[22:23]" Not sure colts suggestion PFW -- pumped and -- and walker. That's from Brian thinks I'm in Colorado some that would -- the -- and it's tough yeah I kinda like we've been -- that you know. -- I'm not sure I really like that. -- dominant OP -- know why because Tom -- time to react to be associated with the -- I just wanted to -- gone okay. I don't want and you know this kind of like you would that change I want to be aware of any time you have any kind of weaponry make sure I'm in another state that turns -- change okay let's see here. I don't know quick question from Josh in Arlington Virginia is the field already covered. In anticipation of the snow and audience that is no -- right now as we speak. The patriots are actually on the field they are in the the lower in the -- in Gillette stadium. And that's where there are conducting their practice -- not begun knowing at as far as I know Garrity it has. Given the assignment and has started all which is perfect -- Friday I think yeah he wanted to have but he missed part of practice and I don't know the or business but when you don't have. Grass field is is. Not that big a deal when those skates I'll let him at buffalo always has that you know that sweep with a yeah I watched that John Deere. I don't like the Mark -- help laughing right -- was really a -- and his call the snow plow game by. There really wasn't stop while his brush and I think that's what they used it to panic there are up now I think that probably coverage. At some point but no I don't think it anywhere near as important when you have yet field surface it was in the old days when we met there by. No idea how they handle that. Well I have to read this one the -- but he gave who says don't get me going on Tom. Amman that evidently it's not about that now. He -- I agree about being a game playing guy how many times has -- act Maroney. How many times has Brady even act Maroney it in and help protect against the 90% blitzes. Not really as my game and -- that's why -- off anyway I mean. And Tom both talked at length about how infrequently they were blitzed again. Baltimore news I think Tom counted up in about twelve or thirteen bullet has in the whole game in a vote. Seventy or eighty plays it does when you play a team like the patriots you have to blitz more that's what they do they constantly but. Philadelphia didn't blitz and consulate puts them. Shortly free templates and all every now and then you take a quarter off the -- but if you come and get the patriots into we're going to blitz -- That's only -- he says in -- one game plan was to run the ball the patriots ran the ball 37 times a week one. Maroney had twenty attends every two yards that's Sox I was that's it's a team that's given up I don't EST game I don't agree that he always used to go to the left -- the middle I would like -- Hold on him I would like to go around the -- more get him in the open a little bit how many attempts to you guys -- this week. In -- All the last part of that is not to say I mean. On the surface it would -- he'd get twenty carries again because of two things one the jets you just mentioned thank god and stopping the run into. Conventional wisdom tells us to have is going to be bad whether it -- kind of right sort of back a little bit on the throttle and and get a bit more conservative but I Enola. I you know Everton of that and so they do what I would expect and throw the ball predominately and I."

[26:06]" Yeah I do and don't as a -- don't you think that when you have to keep email him and telling why he is doing this and why don't you think that's alarming. Like -- make it up already things on how Maroney can be better. That's a problem. It in my opinion running back take the ball they -- with. That's all they do it's we should have to put in these special Gomes and you gotta do there's and he got to do that. I'll give you -- guy who was geared towards -- Corey Dillon. You know he lost his speed at all that. It he was lazy I thought last year but the guy can still get through a hole and he was -- a ball 50% and it would be used to go through."

[26:45]" You -- ball. He handed off to Faulk because of the hole we saw the ball hit it off -- more he gets to the holes I just have a hard time believing it's all the offensive line while."

[26:54]" While the fans think that's because minorities in the game the other team in Iran which. I don't know why that you would ever think that because they don't ever run and let me ask you questions when. Adrian Peterson's game where they think that it has -- as I said to the guy on the on WEEI who said that to me on Sunday. Gosh I don't know how loyalty does yeah. You know because they never into mobile -- had a quick questions you want an off -- extended the contract with Randy Moss and the answer to that is no idea. But I'm not going to be surprised if it happens. You know at some point you know maybe it doesn't -- after the year but. I'm I'm going to be surprised if he's not a part of the patriots in 2002 I think it's worked too well to to pull blog after one season what do you what do you -- couple draft related questions at Anthony does oh it was the best quarterback in the draft this year -- they don't resign anyone I know you love."

[27:45]" Yeah employees and down from. From Arizona others Malcolm Jenkins from Ohio state of the like I say -- it's way too early you don't know -- all. From everything I've seen it looks like -- it's going to be the first order taken -- he's a heck of a player it is. You know you got -- taken it who built that thing like it's such a hard position a -- could direct tool. Arm now I seen some things are like guys that early with a mock drafts but it seems to me -- invited all in the top it. So maybe the patriots just say the bass guy were taken them. You know litter might -- it too would be interesting to see but they they gotta do something about that linebacker position. You know even my father called me up but at what those linebackers are slower every time they don't respect -- to be found so everyone can he would and they got a big upgrade deposition."

[28:36]" What they hear another draft question I love the draft questions when -- now first up thanks for a great show this year merry christmas happy new here to -- two you guys which is very nice thank you in fact he was well two things to comment on first I think it has it was somewhat peculiar that Harrison and -- his locker -- interview. Talked about focusing on the -- take one game at a time and then it'll and then when asked about the jets' current strength in cornerback. Later he I he probably jets cornerback -- you can create -- to with the legs and as far as I know Clemens is not. What you describe is rambler yes he can tuck the ball but he shouldn't fear him running it it's funny because he absolutely did that he did column lemon and I thought he meant Clemens and just had Lamine. But I didn't hear the part about him saying about scrambling so maybe he wasn't he talking about Cleo Lemon and just kind of had this week's confused."

[29:34]" Maybe yeah it's but build that mentioned it Clemens out of the pocket to number he said that I've -- I've seen I don't know he kind of drop back -- what I thought he's not like completely in my right leg is a completely impossible but. I don't he's had a great I don't either second regarding your discussion yesterday on the draft in a potential top three pick. Common sense at least seems by a lot of pats fans as you go with the fact in three plays at this point in Maroney. -- Maroney runs. Point to a carrier has only had limited opportunities in the offense as of right now is able to spread the ball I do not the purpose or another first round running back -- over the top three -- oval be good with clearly Jake long is intriguing he's a run blocker would eventually. It up until blogs I've -- for Brady but who knows Chris long stop the Ronnie can rush. But even though Seymour appears to be hampered by his knee injury that we really another high and offensive lineman. How puck -- junior burning coal. Flat out beast off the edge kind of -- where type -- that. He's he's good yet he's very that I let guys that I saw abuse Jake long and arsenal -- that I yesterday but I don't think he's he's considered that high in the pit. Right now to play players are who clearly had been top five picks and 5 if you could -- the future."

[30:55]" And that there is no telling what place where uncle -- develop into but he's tied might bring a school record from 95 at Ohio State with thirteen sacks. That would bring the pressure that you need from the edge he could be grown ivory able and could beat his personal hybrid play need to for the future."

[31:13]" Possibilities of having moving. While it is. Future given a pitchers the possibilities to move both Thomas and -- in side and that's Jacob in Denmark Jessica I don't think Mike Vrabel have a play now and sighed again and he -- sooner retire the problem taken a -- goals and now -- is. He's a project now because he's got to learn the 34 outside scheme. And -- shown that he doesn't like to take those guys early in the draft so now he's got the number two pick. In -- say he's going to take a guy that he's got a -- transform into a linebacker. I just don't see that happen and I think if they took a linebacker there would unquestionably be James letter it is if he decides to Kamal."

[31:55]" Clinton Omaha I was on the state draft is and -- we're talking about a will be yesterday I know stands now knowing that as a number two pick or other picks to they have. But -- pre draft -- through that surrounds what slot have they got to in traded away today. We talked yesterday we said they had 230 ethics has got one from the raiders that's when I forgot about they lost."

[32:17]" either. He would meet so many -- and I -- to -- you know we'll try to get that up on him and -- yeah W I'd run that down. But on the web site but I know to have to third round pick fortunate that the reason I don't think that a draft McFadden. Is because of Sammy -- you still have more -- Maroney next year admiral the issue told what he has another guy that are he's more productive so I think they don't go that rotation I just don't think -- going to be your 1500 -- back -- I don't think it makes much sense to draft Macphail I loved -- and I do I do believe so I'd like as a guy you have to take a dynamic I think he I think -- can really be special. I even love the way they use them you know in the -- formations as quarterback and stuff like that but I just don't think it's value. You know I think any running back has value in the top five I really don't know. And I down I don't know -- it. I'd I'd IKEA Ian gold in the bed and they're utterly they could I would take time off from the emails and hit the phone that he is and --"

[33:15]" Which one can give us some of them yes I think I mean I'd put on hold it. -- Fred not yet today so we actually put the phone calls when people -- at the rose bowl made a good point Estes I honestly don't think they're going to go running back especially the high angle from the bad and it doesn't make sense mostly lies. It's -- too much of some of the of of that yeah. -- two would you look at it officially be eligible to be free agent you actually think it opposite."

[33:54]" No he re signed -- he signed with the bears. Didn't what I disagree to a want the -- economic couple weeks ago he he be all long term deal alignment that if you know. -- this week. Read as well words look I -- I misunderstood Gary can you check -- badly in Chicago to -- to clickserve."

[34:19]" Like 99 point. Deputies but there might try it -- I don't think you probably wouldn't all week well he instead of where he -- He conceded franchise become a free agent -- and maybe that lets them."

[34:40]" I think it's corny it was instant. You are you really didn't interest in the scheme simply you know she's one point 34. He acts today."

[34:52]" Comment at the Super Bowl and all the Boston writers were out there covering the Super Bowl and that was one of -- normal natural topic was to Atlanta Braves was and you. Obviously highly sought after free agent and figure out a few -- didn't plan the patriots system and he -- flat out know now obviously. I got 3340 a million reasons why he could change the guy's mind."

[35:14]" I was just trying to figure you started to click or maybe you'd think agencies to into this game it's a little bit that I. Please some of it just seems so."

[35:27]" What they're pretty. Because that's the best thing for the patriots -- but -- do put two and a -- to come -- does not know."

[35:35]" Intelligent you know at least a piece of the and in. Studies -- I'd take on those you know you take -- two blockers you know on the main sources wouldn't we be our defensive line go to that bought three in just made it to be injured."

[35:52]" And I -- As is another draft you know like -- has -- wrote it down a lot of our research yet. Now we'll get to that in February and and -- and -- will go to the comp line no comeback with with -- stuff loads of vin Foley and now we're going to have actually oh yeah. Draft are going to touch and drop a little bit in the coming issue of patriots football weekly Andy as Tom pointed out as he would gladly tell you gravitate and -- last week and now we'll have a a little piece in the draft but. And draft and again like we always do and we're looking forward to having a top flight picked to. To talk about a week and we protect. Names that we never I mean and everybody's -- that won't become under the patriot has ever gets it right."

[36:36]" Actually see and it's a little in the game -- you know I've been too bad what that this Cuba -- you yeah well. And he didn't win the game and I don't know -- that the -- yeah yeah. Yeah completely official -- at six times I've just been not this week on the double and a the -- this team knows the game."

[37:01]" Internet it. Yeah I think and Atlanta Braves they're Gerut. Or Chicago sun times that you will be free agent after that that I I'd that's what happened that I mean and I I don't know. -- you can talk the guy into changing his. You know. Two Indians thought about the three for the interest in the media. If he does that what he -- is enough Belfast and and he's not here's would not take any obligatory shots in northern Ireland but -- wondering -- he was injury did the pats ever aspect I exactly what are wise do you think you always making excuses for his poor play by saying he wasn't a 100%. I must have been for it must have been a pretty significant injury if he's -- not a 100% almost a year later he injured in the championship game right what and that I'm not exactly sure what the injury while -- any problems. There was problems between the team in Seymour and in terms of how is care which treated so I don't know all of -- was something that was just lingering I don't think he got injured in the AFC championship game. I think it was like a football player's injury that -- playing and playing and playing. In the seasons already get it taken care of obviously the recovery time has been much much longer than anybody would have hoped. Do you think this you know I -- the public something today you know he wants to get an out there that is not -- not point right now and that's normal -- he's got an ego like anybody else. And that's probably. Some truth -- that yes it definitely I mean years everybody say -- Right they could use them 70% rate now they want from what I Sammy talked to me want to know alleyway -- of all time but now I said I don't Alley now. I'm sure he'd it'll be how he continues and so on San Francisco is going to pick in the top five the pats want to trade down. 21 round pick to be the equivalent in value of the top of our top five pick. You think Belichick which to the -- put an offer that was less than the equivalent value we talked about that a little bit yesterday. And to escape paying out so much guaranteed minor rookies and because no other team was laughing and out. Thomas Fred and tackle Andy is an anchor just skating and you Bruno if you were to the show but -- still a little white thanks guys keep up the good work that's always in Belfast. We kind of disagreed on this ship and if -- recall I I kind of think they would be willing to take a little bit -- to get trade down there. Fred I think didn't -- and it can get raped on the deal yeah I mean I tried to stay. Don't you talk and maybe the other team benefit a little bit in that whole value chart system that everybody talks about. I don't think you can get someone to give you would."

[39:46]" Their commands right definitive thing it's hard is that they'll have their pick of the entire draft -- for probably one player. Hole if there were a guy that they like you've taken taken what are it is and that's that's the tough thing now obviously have to pay a number two money. Which kinda hurts when you have moss and everybody else will have to wait and see -- that's a tough one."

[40:08]" Having allowed Moreno to get to and certainly you guys want to they tuned for the second -- one. We make fools -- are by going around the NFL on trying to show just how little -- about this league. Right now going to take a quick -- be back with the emails in a moment."

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[42:22]" It was a well it's -- here again we're -- means you're doing of the football. Whether it tailgating in the parking lot throwing the -- get around to just hang in it and watching the game on the tube it's all about football. And when you're not watching football -- playing football well I think we both know you're thinking football. And all that can make -- a little Hungary. That's why there's a tasty neck wrap from McDonald neck -- now come -- your choice of three relievers -- pulled you barbecue honey mustard and rant and they're available with grilled crispy chicken. Delicious and easy to eat it a perfect game time neck. Grab one today and when you do if you're looking at that you can elect any kind of remind you of the quarterback in the middle of the pocket and now he's surrounded by cheddar -- Jack -- and let us. While the BP you're thinking just a little too much about football Macdonell I'm -- it. Yeah."

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[44:38]" We'll back the Kelly."

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[44:44]" I just have the -- on how does that at all it's because he's. Cruising the the reports that Mitchell report right now and all the names on their -- because it was going back to tally. -- the background. It's -- or big names and you know that I guess -- to circulate the the Internet now in. Some of the web -- title -- name's Albert Pujols. Of the names on the list probably the biggest name analyst Roger Roger Clemens you know when -- on an outfit for awhile now Roger Clemens Andy -- Pool -- Nomar Garciaparra Jason Varitek. Johnny Damon's self. Mix of local connections and nine national connections well. And it although that would going to be a big names on the list that was going to have repercussions in. You know Albert Pujols and that's that -- serve in its current game right now I'd probably about a -- name you know A rod. You know maybe the only one that was in the -- and hard working Trot Nixon. Apparently wasn't as hard hitting every now I'm a huge -- experienced -- people it was -- if you can think Trot Nixon was on sometimes you don't go from 27 home runs -- five without do you know without I natural reasons. And I'm not surprised by that at all -- Believes the other baseball behind him on the phone because Tom."

[46:04]" You're you girls on the phone. How's it going Chelsea is -- I feel I feel better a little sick but I'm okay girl you'd like six. I don't plan and C East -- and the guys you like a wrestler you have your own entrance and it. But it's -- and the rest of my head I didn't know like guys played that. I -- but Tom I think yeah I got the -- my -- don't worry for the most importantly you know yeah -- I got the connection yeah I didn't immediate time. Yes that's right Tom accomplish regularly and her but at this. The Clinton does out one but it's -- right -- Well Tom appreciate the chicken soup that you sent him you know when he was not know idealism is very nice view particular viewpoint across the country. I know I think he's going to make it he was he was looking awful. He came in on on Wednesday I I as I had a I don't skeptical the -- oh."

[47:13]" Wednesday's. Earlier this morning and I played he's really talked okay."

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[48:20]" I Eric how are you yeah I never there they never get me I'm I'm down here is mostly on those archaic but -- let's -- you do when you hear it yeah and that -- here. Littlefield report."

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[49:46]" I I I actually value line -- if that's why we that's true my luck that that's why we're pulled up the website is these guys didn't believe it's dormant."

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[50:24]" Time and that pocket looking at and -- inmates -- that has your favorite word he they condom them. Anti patriot fan calling Bill Belichick at these spectacular wreck and different. That I don't think that they. Do -- recommended -- yesterday you think blue Michelin man here."

[50:50]" Yeah he believe intact if he had a bad coat on it's going to be in Pittsburgh keep January 10 pocket. Not a good look for a look again this week."

[51:01]" Talent but I decided I can't wait and Atlanta well. How your Spain that you don't know if they'll tank and really hates -- team that I -- that I hope -- of course like the stated here Allen."

[51:15]" I wouldn't count on. -- American that feeling about this game I think it's going to be a lot closer than everyone thanks has taken points aren't that I say that --"

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[52:32]" Or editors allow them about eighty players that took steroids and that. So -- which are major names yet though."

[52:39]" I feel like I'm title but I think. Now there's always just an investigation that baseball conducted and wow they find out and get fired. Well I don't I don't know about that but. Now I'm not sure exactly what's going to happen but you know I don't think that any of them actually failed test on much that it gets suspended for. But you know who knows and I -- born well it's unfortunate calico elect now. Big bear -- Mountain and hear what you're asking questions. It's -- never talked before OK yeah so -- college scholar is."

[53:22]" She is there yeah. Yet now Kelly broke out -- as baseball players getting fired Sox what do you going to blow. I think that actually was Colonia. Lot of air was goal caller your eyes -- I was a little pumped I mean we kind of flare up and you know we make fools of ourselves because we have no ability whatsoever to flirt anymore --"

[53:42]" Earlier don't know what you're. On the -- got married -- you don't you don't like settled for a not a fanatic about it Eric that they grow at least double the modeling -- ultimately could you. And hearing. You want to know what happened a practice or. I -- want to know what -- practice on you know we're talking. In during the press counselor before asking about the weather in the conditions going to be like and so we moved practice up to try to get the players -- if you don't. Think by now that this team is destined for something. Mean we went out to practice or -- losing out there aren't as they got out there the flakes start to fall back because they'll make the call instead let's. This is what I want and -- and he'll want to -- is our guys haven't start the up and but by the time our 1520 minute allotment was up. There was accumulation on the ground it was comin' down like a snow globe and it was perfect he -- write and edit it to get ready for the on this game those conditionally you're telling hole. Is -- right now. Laughing hysterically and yeah. Dorsey -- those idiots are actually on that stupid radio show right now and it's been taken four hours to drive home -- up. -- nice -- as a -- Bond you know that won that one like he could be a little slippery. Yeah so there's wintry scene out there they're practicing two missing players nothing. -- worked up about affiliate. And Mike Wright or not seen. And I -- play in the second half the other and so I wondered if maybe he is banged up and that's why they're looking at that defensive lineman possibility there are. They've not made it official but there was a new player out of practice today we talked about -- locker today and we we totally talked about okay he was out of practice taking part it was it was an upper practice for utility was practice -- did you talk to anybody practiced like I hear an act of -- I did try to talk to someone about that and I got the there has been no official transaction -- they couldn't confirm -- just -- when -- asked them. I don't do that you know. -- but he was out there but he probably know he mean right now I'm on the PR department in -- around here they get up information from my sewing and they were and -- only. Seven players had black shirts -- trolls wanna -- was one of them -- correct our -- Callahan Ryan O'Callaghan was another the other five were Kelley Washington -- good excuse me QB Matt Cassel. Chad Jackson Brandon Meriweather Chad brown. And not to Nixon -- it and everybody gonna say there's I put of those draft picks to use now Chad Jackson grand rounds on the team. Yeah that's -- yesterday a couple of other interesting note. -- want to I've we talk about chemistry with this team every week during stretching period when you know it's accumulated a little bit. Meriweather the rookie. Was going around plate fully tackling as a fellow TV's sort of you know. Now he's ATP should talking about defensive backs and not the way we -- DBs and they -- right correct answer back not -- I just wanted to make sure on -- year ago aren't around that I am longing. She has -- Kickoff return team was one of the things they worked on someone added to the mix who was doing it last year Laurence Maroney. -- Chad Jackson Kevin Faulk Welker no ops and -- yet I'm all out there was just getting harassed last week as -- short week by the way I'll. Could have been closely but I will say this or when he was sort of brought back straightaway -- Maroney -- to kick. That's going to go to my relief help my argument because starting running backs who were valuable legal worker can -- the ages though and that and to his credit though when he did do it last year he did -- is pretty good but -- just stayed you don't want your starting what exactly take that extra pounding in right. Risk of injury right and of course to their mean running backs are doing it now returning to a falcon there at least today in practice shows how much they care about the running -- yeah they don't want Welker back there is that he is he was back there oh he was handle. -- them yeah there that and that's what they were done during the time we were up there. And it's it's on like gangbusters as at least two inches up out now yeah. -- you -- five minutes and only a private in the small now please. He has England he'll I don't know at least you came in today give you credit for that you're not -- I driveways like a mile and have to shovel it before I could -- I dedicate."

[58:34]" It is the clip to hear from bill and -- column and on espn.com and I thought it was it just because we talk a lot about the draft. Eric we're talking about the only potential directions they could go yeah actually had to pick him. To show you how much of a crapshoot really an -- I get though it's a research yours is of the twenty players selected -- top four of the NFL draft from 1998. To 2002 a whopping ten of them are already out of the week eight to 2002982000 somebody would be those those pick. Top pick I'm going to get some of those with a from the quarterback class of Donovan McNabb in 99 yes including three number ones and Steve Brown Michael Vick yes Tim couch and obviously pulled out of the right different reasons. Three number -- Charles Rogers Lavar Arrington Ryan leaf to number three I trip Andre Wadsworth and Achilles Smith. And -- for Peter Warrick and Mike Williams. All of those two quarterback to be couch and -- would be enough quarterback that you talk -- three more top four picks from that -- David Carr Joey Harrington and Gerard Warren. Or major disappointments and should be joining them zone even stranger the other seven top four picks and up succeeding in making a ton of money for themselves. Peyton Manning Charles Woodson Donovan McNabb Edgerrin James Leonard Davis Justin Smith and Julius Peppers can you get any more hit or miss that match and how could a top four. They'd be pyramid for five solid years I just thought that was crazy oh right and yeah just stick to a point 250 I mean even Tom as a demo all right. You know when he breaking down draft picks and now this order to right so I thought that was interesting -- that a good job of doing recent -- but usually it doesn't -- I thought I would point and I'm Gary pitchers on the course I was interest -- I mean. Basically what what it thing is that they have no better -- we do one where speculate things that it is an email that I have to get to from Josh and Akron in the subject is warm white. How can I not made that -- guys a hypocrite chances at the top with a partner but no good at it. -- an -- Ian pro bowl balloting. I want to ask Fred why he didn't publish my paper play on fifth. Fairly -- FW did you know I would have to get X would have gotten extra credit in English if that has the page I don't blame you it did not. I finished in about a week I just needed often get in get a grade is that I don't even know what I'm talking about I would I would get you guys -- one date but being a broke college student the only -- I think I could afford is frozen pizza or about a member authority can predict you're always it would work by the way of the -- guy like me."

[1:01:16]" Yet I cutie -- you to -- because I don't all. He's an active off -- at least twelve or thirteen hours now started it last night at 5 o'clock the Atkins diet I'm off. -- that's foolish Tom when -- now it's not going to work eventually where it is not going to work no doubt you ran out yet but she'll work when I'm betting on but I'm telling you it's not going to work. Everybody uses that -- were -- does not at no it doesn't it -- everybody who I think all of those diets work. But when you get off of them you immediately lose you put the -- right back -- that was -- taken ephedra Tom your Italian that's the whole point I'm going to lose the weight and are taken ephedra to keep it off your or your Italian that this actually that you're not that he -- I'll stop it. Topic this is going to last -- and purses going to last more than a week will -- a -- We still have that a lot of passionate. Mark Maroney defense so TG in the rat infested -- EG US open and -- you could still of those a lot of eat the meat and give the all right though -- for the love ago little theory."

[1:02:27]" Okay we have to stop bashing Maroney come up with a solution what do you think what do you do with him kickoff returns screens I don't know that's why -- ask you guys seem to have all the -- well least Tom and Andy paused to busy being P the son of Kraft is a bias that. As a patriots fan voting UG we'll for the -- Well I like I was at a crap and I don't really get the easy thing with me anyway. The weather factor -- you guys are just watch Accra weather forecast that -- could tell me it's going to snow on July and hopefully I."

[1:03:02]" It's not what they think Maroney. I don't think he's going to be a dominant back and they want to use in the kick returner other things I think he can help the team I yeah I think in the open field when he gets ahead darkness I think he's very good yeah hard to tackle he's got a -- it doesn't adjust it he could ever learn to get by their first line of defense. He'd be tackle running and you know what what what I thought to name practice if if that ends up happening in the game at kind of tells me that they're trying to find a way to get him to. Involved in the game they don't want until you know just languish on the sidelines there though. Could totals. Like mentally mentally I think mentally he's as strong as a Tedy Bruschi -- Rodney eater too late now is pointless though. You have to worry about losing the kid yeah and I think build -- that he's trying to get him involved."

[1:04:10]" Maroney. Dontrelle savages my guy like India we both like them -- at all from a guy like Adam hall I don't know I don't know as much about I love savage love he's got that balance he's he's always in yards extra yard to play for Oklahoma State -- you'll probably heed of yet. But when you get the capable Paul -- woody comes out it's it's pretty impressive I only saw."

[1:04:32]" Play want and -- and that was part of the Oklahoma game I think you mean. I think that was the Oklahoma maybe it was and I thought it was -- on the game and I might be confusing you have won by I don't know a lot about."

[1:04:42]" I believe he's a junior -- with let it becomes -- this deal is I like this one as my PS improve about the Steelers related question was for Randy. But I'm interested in your opinions named three dealer starters you would want to trade for three pat daughters are in positions. -- trading straight up with. Polamalu is not a bad -- yeah but don't yet you give -- a trade Sanders and much. I mean maybe you could to a for Rodney out of the premise that Rodney -- older you know he's at the end of the maybe I would create probably for the sideline -- about Harrison. And I are all but he got the trade for people -- Thomas."

[1:05:30]" Willie parker. Yeah -- fix -- react video I would I would take Willie parker I would take may be one of the corners over. Like Taylor probably in on May be. But I I figured -- 61 half dozen you know there I don't think a lot of the Steelers cornerback I think bill could do a lot with well I think he's -- a good player I guess is they're off from one of their offense line -- might you know maybe -- although what I -- Willie -- not offer it on Sunday for for nick catcher but I don't know there's I mean you could do that -- well -- get a larger obviously he has now try to aim for the jets. Darrelle Revis for Hobbs. Definitely beat David Harris and they're heroes -- from Bruschi. Carry -- did you get -- impression that I got exploited he really liked it did two things either he aided David Harris or he loved the literally one of the jets and yeah yeah so he is either there is no little growled David error either loved or hated him -- I'd I'd just in one it's you know it's hard to say exactly but you don't you know. -- players in my opinion kind of -- like nick Mangold I wouldn't trade them for. Cooperating mangled his excellent but I think the patriots more than happy with -- about what about -- I think you're telling Clemens for Brady. Now that I think and -- Clemens is younger will round of the I'd be -- climbing it is great and he's not on that list like Roger Clemens. And Thomas Jones that we know if you. I would -- take a break is there's for a."

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And you want to name -- yet like the Branch Davidians and Mirabelli had to hang I pick -- all the eleven double to better than Jimmy Jones yells yeah Alec went out and -- and whatnot and it -- advocating any -- I -- the -- first I know how that goes first well. I -- it'd be like that TVs in the huge bag of that was one of the you know can we get like leather jackets that -- look at our hair back at -- that I'm doing snap our fingers reluctantly. The -- putting against the jets in the shark -- the -- fair fact how about the orange fire water mafia the freelance club not at war with us now and that -- wives kidnappers of the AWK. A couple of guys like -- I don't really realized club I was a leader in the clubhouse -- So unique club and a ball from -- call. I'll meter and hopefully they can and with -- it was the brick and them free lunch club I've been because they don't let up. Well pitchers -- take it as an account exactly. About the future that don't work that's good although we obviously didn't do very good job today. I waited it out outlaw -- for them off well. Grass to tie it out on the tour and you guys are good and too Little Rock to things that you're going to be that -- 2345 and I looked at shivers that two things that are going to that you. Wanna -- though. Tom yeah that means a chance it is ready. But Tom has been on Atkins were 1212 or thirteen now last not going to last Antonio railroad I'm off -- you're telling you can't not well he's not just spread it all -- he can't do most cards enacted but I invested. I can they're time due to do wanted to you don't think -- not a good thing for you then and Italians don't eat -- not going to I have diabetes went platoon goes low I have -- kittens but that's. That's the wrong diet for use that I'm okay here's what I don't really tell -- way I'm dropping fifteen and that's not a bad idea but doing in the -- and weighs about idea you should be -- already battled I was -- did you really need to lose -- I only imagine what he says about me. As if you need to lose weight dining that was a leg and take -- these pills diet affect his weight -- I gotta do something drastic. Anyway Fred is going to really disappoint you but we've been talking about the tabs on the ESPN news. And how Katie you've been over the fact the patriots have their own right it's been replaced by Mitchell and -- the storm pretty ESP -- that'll be gone tomorrow will be back the page okay pursuit of perfection returns tomorrow. -- and wanted to buy into the lucrative job the NFL network has their own thing now called the path to perfection hey guys so. Very while. Really originally -- one of perfection out on well with -- that's right that the the point is that there all. Finally coming our final. They give the Super Bowl like you watch by a few people. Yeah I someone the other day saying that they thought that this would be -- you know the patriots are and it against the cowboys. Yeah you all be let them -- actually that you need to -- was matter of fact that was one of our typical argument where went on for days and meant nothing but you know I think the only thing wrong but it was is that I was involved. Because usually I'm in those stupid arguments with new ideas that's the goal shop they've ever been -- Fred did think. An undefeated patriots team against the cowboys would you tell. Verbal absolute all tight and I looked at -- this -- of a certain base of fans. That it is going to be compared to what you get but this hypocrisy you're thinking that people want to watch the patriots to. If it's true you're going to be absolutely right that is the most watched ever was there would be if I want an -- so they commit that aren't they did they're going to. To open now if both teams run the table you're gonna have. One team with no losses in wanting one loss -- triple yeah and it's unbelievable for me as a kid steel ball right 81 operas every season seventies will full of super bulls between two teams that I absolutely despise. I watched everywhere things different now not talking about Dallas in in in Pittsburgh I'd hate I don't -- 49ers I watched every time they can -- Miami if it is going 84 I mean now who I'm rooting for double scratch on the way to Republican field but I'm I'm watching I think. This here you know why I don't -- right. And it keeps people for different reasons some latest -- were good other hate us because we've cheated or whatever and I think that's going to be up. Portion of people that they screw it I'm -- with the help of it. The pot here with the thinking. Most watched Sunday afternoon game over patriot this year we'll watch Monday Night Football game I don't treat. Cable show ever I don't any -- was that money and I -- and I didn't this is a huge story and I I you know I you could be right I'm just like got."

[1:19:26]" But like -- my mother and they're my brother doesn't care about it was cardinals and I'm playing the -- Paul Perillo yeah -- mother doesn't care about the St. Louis Cardinals when Mark McGwire was doing now home run think everybody cared. So even people who don't care about the patriots and football this historic they had the runs so it attracts other I'm."

[1:19:46]" It does because that like that McGwire I think it's a good example that take in the you know people like to -- don't just -- baseball but people that didn't like baseball to into it and then I area but unfortunately for her McGwire was fired so much at all these -- on the -- does. It up and gray."

[1:20:05]" Right Dillon it's feeling tired over in Waltham and -- home from -- big apology drink of copy of the -- that there. I can -- seriously be careful or put us on speaker something."

[1:20:28]" Well -- regular golf and they can't let me get -- right now being in the car well. I know like a little bit earlier about creating scenes but I company at a dead. Yeah yeah there and it about and it agent. They -- the did you go after him and it if you really want to build like."

[1:20:52]" Read that the two key guys aren't the colts that they have to decide what to do with Bob Sanders. And one other hand I'm not just."

[1:21:02]" They -- Sanders and don't I don't think there's any chance -- franchise a lot of I don't jitters and owning I don't think there's any instantly and it would weigh the Carter that the fact that lane. Might read our opening night he did he just trying to kill Harrison. I'm archer they haven't lost in my opinion and I have substance and they doctorate. There really haven't and the only one could even from closes Edgerrin James I think he was dominant on. So I just I don't it I don't -- not resigning Bob Sanders. And -- you know him helping comes up between now and the end of the year he missed you know have to gain a week. But he I've been eligible to play but I don't you I don't mean he would be priority number one."

[1:21:48]" Okay so what about Bob Sanders lined very political -- let's -- the patriots. -- the open is he can't beat a game."

[1:21:55]" I like he's with the raiders or anything -- that you know he's going to have access in the future with -- I don't see him Wadi al. -- of that. -- the getting into next year they go get up if they go fourteen -- moves the patriots who went sixteen and no mean. Ali does -- Terrell last year you know we were right right I went and we beat -- that he might. He might actually -- him again were off. -- yeah okay I'd be -- all -- that you might look at the patriots defense and say. Well a lot of these guys are going to be on. You know of Bruschi fatal to the -- nineteen and -- in lieu of guys might think it's better they would call because they got a younger deepens. I've already told -- and read of -- compare them to the 85 yeah right so. Not quite quick different technically they're awfully fast -- the -- they're smart they're sure exactly and -- he's worth. If we had Albert Haynesworth what would you how would you can and that that he she would put up there with the -- a you know I think and I think they would be pretty productive. Pretty productive out. You know what we definitions everyone's looking into Gary guys on the phone I don't always talking to will be care."

[1:23:17]" drive out there Greg Lewis. He's well a lot of reasons I laughed -- I thought he actually did a car accident an oil well but he did -- pretty tough up a there was they a politician that was running for governor. -- that -- sister editor Jackie Robinson on him doing any remaining games Kennedy was doing a phone interview with the Imus show. 1 morning and anything can actually get into an accident while Raikkonen did that happen to Francona I'm not that I. He's in the middle of talking -- that someone. In from behind. I'm -- controlled so -- some getting used his mouth ways you can't wait that drinking problem. Hey Bob -- watch and I remember what Gillette stadium was being built that the Boston Globe that run a lot of elaborate graphic showing high tech irrigation. In drainage systems that we're all. For the grass playing surface I think. There was a field heating system installed to. But I can't be sure about that do you know if there was any heat stalled there -- was put in when they switched to the new field to -- I don't think they took it out there was heating up piping system hot water base type thing underneath the feel I don't think they took it out. I mean we we all -- out of the prost I don't remember any type B I don't think -- cut down at the now they had -- dig down a little bit because at the put the extra -- I don't think they removed anything that was -- now I'll say it didn't seem to -- that -- I don't I don't want you to want to say what yeah what you did you could tell it it -- on the -- Right corner if you look at it from the press box that like quadrant. It would work but the hot water didn't get all the way through yeah whatever the whatever way it was cited generally happy I'll take those big houses where one. Like the foreign never really got that warm. That's the way the -- was with that he liked my house of kids' rooms now you want to that we wanted to do little little chilly in an eight month old -- not so no they they kept that in the irrigation I would go. Not a problem. Not a problem here. What else I don't know -- emails I was Belichick today Clinton he was. Walked in smiling again the kind of -- no -- we actually I just thought crisper easier day into today what's he doing here. Roman around them but as usual with the as they fox and CBS game."

[1:25:52]" He's right do consultant for duke these two minute drew the peoples to watch Fred -- you can Libya -- only news a practice was their outside. You know there's -- replace the practice that I want and there were outside of the shuttle they were date they had they assign a new player although they have made it official yet. Tight and yeah. Laurence Maroney was a part of the rotation particularly her husband showed also were asked -- okay good. All right it's good stuff palace the locker room was short program -- pass. As they I had practiced a little bit earlier they didn't make access and a little bit earlier. So that was like a Friday and being in there until 55 the players were a lot of their Bible 35 right. I was but it."

[1:26:42]" That was oh. And yesterday's press conference is Bill Belichick obviously was having nothing to do -- answering any questions about spy game but Mangini kind of revealed a little bit that you know he did confirm that there was situation last year where. They thought they had permission. And then they were told not to build from mezzanine area and he said that was fine -- stated that you do what they want base a lot to do about nothing. Bottom Dallas Clark is the other free agent thanks to god Clark yet -- with a guy in the opposite I would say he isn't going anywhere read of the unified both."

[1:27:20]" be my -- they've got the franchise once they could they might do what they did this year franchise one until they can work out a long term deal it it was Freeney and okay. Interesting but I agree with your take on the on this aspect as it doesn't seem to me that if it. If they were doing something wrong. I don't think it would have just been dropped like I don't think the patriot you know that Mangini said that they had permission from the patriots and and I'm one with the patriots -- in the -- dot. If that's not true I think the patriots will defend themselves instead it yesterday. They had no comment that the -- you know -- they try to get a comment from Belichick and and a comment from the organization itself and it. Just let it you know if -- incorrect information out there don't you think that they want to correct it I have to think that mean genius version of a version of what happened is is accurate."

[1:28:15]" That's what the patriots don't want to make any state yeah I agree I agree you know whether it's right or wrong I don't think they're going to say anything. But you know there's all the up about now who is really behind what happened with the patriots in September is it. It's -- Tatum Bell did both of them have nothing to do was it it was just the security -- if it is foolish to the security guy act on his own he. He should be out you know who this guy is yes. He he was he actually worked for the -- I don't know personally but I know he -- he was Parcells was Parcells guy came -- FBI Yankees -- guys real. Real you know we -- our security -- That -- it was was there along time now I don't know it's not handle. Ranked now oh now well frank and now now it's on now. Legitimate now while it's not there oh. You know post yeah I'd now like former I don't know pretty much for a fact that elaborate held. Upper levels -- got the info from Sacramento thirty guys right now who told them to do it or did it on its own I don't know I don't know. That report about a former patriot and who came over the last year -- the jets is true. Who knew about all the -- that the patriots did video wise that's absolutely true."

[1:29:41]" So I don't know you're talking -- have a brand able now. It's now."

[1:29:48]" all the -- I don't know what's up what were reported that that there -- you don't that perhaps -- who. Came over from the patriot as the one that tipped off that -- on to what the page we're doing that kind of stuff they like to do. -- I don't always talked about but what I don't understand. I thought this was something that everybody knew they would they were all -- well we're all doing a lot of people they look like -- I don't know about me he knew because of being here right the one that told. -- yet to look out for this in the -- wasn't hand I don't. I thought that everybody has been kind of blowing off by saying that -- comment practiced on the league everybody does everybody knows Don. Well and ended jets broke protocol -- but lately the way the patriots do it without a different in the way other teams do it because they had a guy to any right there I'm. You know. So anyway. It depicts my whole war and we -- to pick letter which were doing over there and you for again against the next night real quick. Last week was good weekend as as Tom likes to blow off the week that he doesn't do as well as other people all the -- want to talk."

[1:31:00]" I'm just -- it's a weird al is talking about their efforts to go game against the soda. -- took the nine points that's Gaby that it Minnesota covers it usually get tight game you know what I mean like -- those kind and it. They got blown away in the first quarter you bet that game get nine point -- no chance. These teams stink I mean San Francisco Carolina Atlanta are there -- bad bad Miami all teams they have no chance staying close to anybody."

[1:31:27]" So everybody did well Andy and I went fourteen and -- Tom Eric and Fred went thirteen and three. With the number I went twelve and four Fred and and -- Went eleven and five excuse me Eric went nine and -- and Tom when he made. I think wondered -- I thought I just. I that leaves this season standings that Eric 140 and 68. I am 138 and seventy. Fred and Tom won 3672 Andy won 34 and 74 with a number. I have caught Erik Cole want to take 93 and nine. Both of Fred. It was two game lead over Tom won all 396 and nine Tom 1198. And Andy Hart the very fact of life is coming back -- and 99 and 100. And nine he's only one -- finally come up -- I don't all coming back over what to expect -- After the -- I want to go all the favorites and I do. Underdogs covered this week -- was -- and don't underdog semi that you guys -- thirteen games above five to. Look at the number which is pretty -- I'd much to my dreary afternoon that I thought I'd lead in the newspaper the next. Not over me no though and I'm still ahead of everyone I'm -- W but I've lost the overall -- like three games by -- three game I don't Dole's lead really yes idol is three games ahead in the and we have the exact same picks this week -- can make up any ground on that means I only have two weeks try to catch from. Interest will the book that I've -- tonight's game is no actual style and Eric the this week and he's not here. Denver is at Houston where the Texans are a home dog getting one point. Home dog I've been I've been so wrong about a couple of teams this year Houston Tennessee and Tampa Bay I picked Houston to win at all. Thickened with that I I does that not waddle. In this game. That their -- to their home dogs and want to win it presents when it ought to net I thought that's implying you know not super you know I mean they don't in the game they like you like Houston I don't like Denver there and there are. Mercurial team if I can use that you weren't on the show are now a please -- dumbed down okay going to use the material we always talk about wide receivers that Terry Glenn gliding on what's a role. Speak of all time did you respond. I don't keep Shawn came out TO responds that the -- on now we're waiting for the tomcat Alley response I don't care what exact. You're here -- shot now. He he went off -- Hedo. About how you know leave -- part those alone have a great here I'd vote for you for one of the players of the year or wide you have to keep. Make it jabs at Bill Parcells and -- TO TO he just went after. Keep on -- that you know he he's nothing compared to me if if he wasn't on the roster for a Super Bowl he would even know it was there. You know we were drafted the game yeah he just went after -- playing ability rather than addressing what keeps on complaining about. Not very mature I don't expect nothing less from what I think Padilla and refused again take Denver have any reason one."

[1:34:55]" Yeah I'm going to take Denver and the only reason his -- job is not playing. I think both teams stink and when not when -- Chubb is playing I think that the Texans are in the going in the right direction. But I don't really yeah much faith without the apparently somehow -- and it up on the Mitchell report I don't know how that happened. And I worked at work to try to -- gambling."

[1:35:20]" Is that -- not playing yet always made the -- is excited. I takes on a guy not playing but I made an out is it definitely he's out he's out I'll -- ago. What's the number one game and a should -- Cincinnati is that San Francisco."

[1:35:41]" Battle through awful teams here -- eight points or Cincinnati take the point. -- I'm going to go with. Cincinnati is playing better in three Johnson got back so I'm going to take them to win especially after what we saw last week with Minnesota going out in narron and -- in the wood to them. So long and ago and -- Cincinnati in the points -- Cincinnati the French but like I said he normally I would take the niners and the point here but how Kenya it's got blown out of home by the old right at. I'll take those angles. Erica has arteries -- angles both ways yeah I I will -- on that for the same reasons on that. Atlanta San Fran Carolina. They've given up -- what I was in eighth eighth I'm going to go -- split down the middle Cincinnati winds at Francisco congress. Okay one game -- bit about her Arizona at -- by three and a half. I'll take the -- there are you can't buy the half point Celtic the saints their home I really want to like Arizona but not with that number I'm going to take the things that went. Yeah I think with a couple injuries they're a deep and Seattle shall -- week you can read -- result of all the football on them that that's saint do here it was -- home."

[1:37:05]" I'm tempted to take that point but I won't I'm going to go to saint in they just so he can -- and -- might pick him. For the two weeks in a row I will do it anyway. Arizona's -- the ball over too much from my liking I'm going to take me -- saints could."

[1:37:27]" Q you are behind him and on the bill -- unintentional comedy scale aren't even when obedient. Atlanta Eric is -- Tampa Bay when the of blocks like giving a mammoth thirteen and I -- that it. Thirteen and a half time -- going to obviously take Tampa Bay to win this game thirteen at halftime. I did for -- blank yesterday two week good year. But this this particular week I had the game which they were an embarrassment in -- they were -- of the day he came down that and go home play. They play in embarrassment on his players -- what's right all right call me his players have three might fit T shirt underneath their uniforms right. And and the guy tells he's not point any worries head coach. Twelve hours later he's on he's making you know even form letters in the players' lockers telling them how he's resigning. I'm not a good not a complete like why he's guilty like he was wrongfully accused. But stunning in the event that description zones that is something provision but. -- we were dealt tennis and you have another controversial anyway it. We -- anyway I'm -- to -- it's awful murder and and -- where where does work with weapons program where it was not that I'm going to go with. North Atlantic number. -- put on the wrong. You know Tom attempt to win Atlanta with the number -- don't -- Tom I would go to Tampa -- both ways the belt it's old -- and beat anybody. Yeah I like Tampa on both sides coming off a -- they need to bounced back with a good performance and now. I don't think the falcons -- in the united become come place. They might just the hell how they typically in the only fear there is that they hated -- much may feel wrong so much they might say it was really show him how bad -- wise that data to show Chris Redman rank as I meditate yeah I gotta take gets acclimated to it Baltimore is at Miami with the dolphins are getting three and a half dolphins -- favored. Don't all get -- as far as I wasn't happening attention as as usual."

[1:39:41]" On the -- the ravens to -- trying to hurt my feelings that. What did you -- for -- quiet off."

[1:39:48]" At her as Rodney Harrison says it like I say I don't even know your name and so I would I'd be offended by that I'll. I'm going to take Baltimore to win them I think my name is going to go with sixteen and I'm going to take them with a number."

[1:40:01]" This is any other team in the league go to Baltimore last week I told that the colts were that will once -- lifetime my father called me up this week that he wanted to -- thousand dollars against the ravens because you know you only get better every now and then -- team put everything out on the line you know one week it and you know going to -- for the rest of the year. I just can't take Miami what afterlife at all last week at buffalo if you can't be competitive against the -- but if they win I would be surprised. Yeah I think Baltimore has clearly not thrown in the towel but. I can't I can't I can't seem like Miami's kind of folded into that's the thing they're awful I would not even try I would."

[1:40:39]" I thought that they would have given everything they had to try to win one game and avoid that statement being one win I'm but when the team -- it -- in what they've done. I'll take the -- I mean I don't think and Cleo Lemon is gonna play down -- That means it. Means Baltimore I don't think Baltimore's pretty good defense and it could be another three nothing I I think you know there as evidenced by the thirty points to dip in the first quarter of him and he McGahee is. Is running pretty well. So you know Baltimore scored ten points and that's probably -- so I'll go with the ravens. Now Aaron what's up what's up next buffalo -- interest in playoff battle you know buffalo at Cleveland. Who'd -- thought that would be a playoff battle for -- right browns by five and a half you know."

[1:41:27]" Certainly not Dick Jauron you just open not to get a -- seriously on a minute I like Cleveland because there at home because I think they have a little more talent and they're playing better. I'm going to take in the win and with the number I got bad news for Dick Jauron as the brawl -- over the bills by at least two touchdowns. I agree with Tom I think that that browns defense that was playing badly all yet the last couple weeks you know quietly not playing at -- them played. Great offense teams but they're not going to face a great offense in this week you know. I agree with Tom I think the browns are going to oil will open on. Okay I will I will agree and say Brown's in this game -- right Green Bay saint little by NFL game of the year the -- week. Okay the -- haven't won yet although there aren't. I anyway green day is that saint Louis where the rams are getting ten at home."

[1:42:21]" That means they're underdogs thanks thanks Paul -- part of your friend I told her attention to. Yeah and to have trouble playing inside. Because at one time wasn't like really don't he did struggle a little bit he's been bad in saint Louis is -- playing an old that he -- I don't on the receive."

[1:42:41]" Anyway it's not going to matter even if he does I'm going to go with Green -- to win this -- Mean I've been I've been wrong about them I've been waiting all your finances the the the other shoe to drop and it hasn't happened I think they're going to I think -- or -- but. Well kinda matters because the rams are actually somewhat okay ignorant that -- culture plays I'll take him days going to lay a weapon on offense and ordered -- and I -- dot com both teams have no injuries reported. That is great to me at the back -- they suddenly Monday or something -- NFL back Tom I'll take the Packers to win."

[1:43:19]" And happy numbered and kind of wouldn't -- here we go like that he Q I just I've -- plays I think they got a shot I'll I'll take the -- the cover yeah there's just so you got -- Frederick there I don't know how to that's funny -- he did."

[1:43:34]" side yeah now. I I Green Bay. On both sides I think that Tom when you talked about for a couple weeks ago. And that -- country you know he's on the he's he can beat up in the weak link and yet I think the the Packers deep -- We'll allow them to cover the bread and and him. The offense with Brian grant becoming more more part of what they do offensively every week I think they find a way to cover the ten points out that Green Bay all the way. I like them Fred validates my picks -- rather interesting battle here. Jacksonville at Pittsburgh this week you know it was coming off that pasting by the patriots Steelers at home. Favor by three and a half no -- camp by the half points instead of attempts mean I think I think. Pittsburgh will bounce back I don't like the -- Jackson though as implying. So ticket I'll -- Pittsburgh both ways."

[1:44:30]" Let her out -- FL network again are we we but I Jacksonville -- the COLT twice and lost both games they are -- they are there -- the pats playoff team. The dealers -- different team now home. I don't feel like they gave every like I don't feel like if they were the ravens they left everything on the field to -- islanders and beat down I think they know they need to win. In the off want to take the Steelers at home I just don't try Jacksonville a big game with the they would want retton."

[1:44:57]" Could've had a better myself and -- Jacksonville wins one of those games against a team that at or above their level. I'm not that that's the right way and I think that's going to be the rallying cry. This week and I think I'm going to take Jacksonville to do just that it uses a statement game we're going to beat a team that. You know we might in the playoffs yet he does England Tom are right out so that Seattle is one quietly speaking of teams that you might be sleeping on Tom leaping in Seattle five and a half over mount R's seven and a half over Carolina that number can be high enough on thanks Seattle -- I would take Carolina played so I'll take Seattle. I I like with the hawks have done it and it out of that Shaun Alexander can't play. And have pretty much gone the passing game and they looked good in they have those receivers out gather all playing well in contributing in. Ya gotta roll and it'd make it in Israel a quick though the other reason why the patriots won't take McFadden number two. Running backs don't matter the NFL war they really don't mean you look at all these other good teams out their strength and right I'm and I know it's probably cyclical and kind of coincidental but right now all the really got have asked for directory running. But I like what Dallas has with Jones and barber -- a good one to right like it took him on the ball ten but what our game."

[1:46:21]" I can use barber definitely at -- average per carry. Now it's not that now because he got it more carries this year because like four point eight right now I felt would have to say and you think of home. But he -- run the ball he's a receiver to loosely kind of use of it both ways they're not a team winds up in as you recall that right Opel Wright. In a lot a lot of his carries are what their head on what you don't they don't do with the patriots do what they use like Welker they they won barber there. Anybody surprised that it's only seven and a half of this game. Movement because there's all that I have this in this the with the panthers line or they don't you write to me like they're still get respect for the team that we thought they used to be."

[1:47:04]" I think more of -- west coast team out yet the you know to the east and in Seattle -- has never really been that great on the row absolutely. He gets out -- way out here -- Moving right along we have Tennessee at Kansas City. Which he played every game this year -- like a there's only two games they -- they were they play -- leave their home dogs getting four points to the tight and packer said earlier at the start of this Tennessee's one of those things that I've been wrong about only here but I'm going to go at them again go with them to win by at least the touchdown. So both -- Tough loss for the plate last week they had day game in the band -- that good a playoff positioning but. Until he had to that he wants to admit that that Qaeda and a quarterback can't play and community teams would take him he would beat me too. You know what Baltic -- I like Tennessee Fred okay yup it. I figured we'd all take him. I deal moving right along we have Indianapolis and at Oakland. Anemic here with the numbers and and a half -- it doesn't matter go to --"

[1:48:17]" You all take the call here raiders -- chance. Now I liked I think in the -- Manning finally got in gotten comfortable. With what he has left to work with and they're now back to their normal form one of the things slightly like."

[1:48:33]" Don't on the errors I think that they've -- themselves Harrison's not going to be back here. This year and I think they started. More involved with the like Gonzales I think they -- all that they he might have to be that guy for the rest of the season now he's not just holding that down for Hairston. The point I like the call."

[1:48:51]" Yeah I do too I mean. Look at the colts I mean every once talk about the patriots by and it is there anybody you play who better right now than the colts. The patriot yet I don't know I didn't -- there. -- you -- cold standout. For a year or he's went in for a good -- all week but we're out -- undefeated everything better than -- happy that he loves. The bad you think they're played better than the patriots that I don't get reverse psychology yet but he can't possibly -- him. They played it he played good they played a team quit play our plan will take them right as opposed to. I'm just -- two losses vet -- team that played the colts wasn't the same team that played the patriots just once. They're playing good Aaron -- that there's only have two -- that."

[1:49:39]" What about when they squeaked by chance that he is at the same squeaking by Philadelphia went out of right now they're playing really patriots plan far better than Indianapolis any way. Detroit is going to San Diego when they're probably going to details. I don't want to -- Joe -- right now -- the charge favored by ten. Ten on pick and India were to win -- I tried tried at Detroit bandwagon for as long as I could they've disappointment."

[1:50:08]" Something tells me don't want to take Detroit with the number."

[1:50:12]" If he hadn't yet yeah if he's right. In Detroit covers I don't want to hear the name's -- Diego chargers again this year because this game nation while. Capsule at home plate. Detroit if they're sort of play well here after an emotional big win last week so this is the last two in league with me all take the chargers both ways."

[1:50:31]" Like the charges both ways to but I the only thing I was -- that's on I would leave the door open for backdoor cut. Mean if they're up all yet there are thirty scene in the fourth quarter and it charges with a last touchdown. Need to -- and down yeah I think that the the charges who will win this game. I'm gonna go with the chargers as well but like on it and come. Who are you know they're not very good they -- what I've I've given up on that on that team we have few more games left front and you get panicky like it's about a organs in ten minutes McEnroe I actually only have three left unknowingly gave him that forgot one I have Philly Dallas -- in giants jets pats and -- Minnesota okay -- Philly -- that Dallas where the cowboys are favored by ten and half -- will take. -- much better team the Dallas Cowboys to win big."

[1:51:30]" I don't like the eagles and the way they're playing don't want their talent like the cowboys. I was going to on the table that's the."

[1:51:36]" Point Eric you have won at I would take the cowboys in this game but I I'm still worried about that defense I don't like the way they play it I don't like anything about benefit -- played the patriots Super Bowl book. This is one week right think they will cover the number pretty easily because I think Philadelphia school."

[1:51:52]" Q before Philly. This week it meant that -- that I'll always you know you do you like Dallas to come yet. Down taken Dallas both ways -- I think I'm going to go with a split the -- to win Philly -- cover. That has like maybe one last for rock and I'm watching and is at the giants' -- and all NFC east weekend the teams playing each other the giants affair by four and a half I'll take the giants to win in yeah and and this gives is on his last legs I think did not score enough the covenant number. They got a feeling -- over we thought -- last week from Washington. -- the whole everything that's -- plate I think we he would this week the -- on the road that New York. -- in the -- and again at the -- everything that is I think the giants get this one pretty easily and I agree that giant I think had a big win. And found a way to hold on and and get that game in Philly they gave me some confidence back you know coming off that Chicago win and now kind of righted the ship a little last couple weeks. And to keep the -- I'll go with the giants as well. And I what's the Minnesota game that I got through Minnesota -- I was go to Minnesota Monday night game Chicago at Minnesota. Vikings by. Tom I think it's like six eyes -- quickly vikings by six you know take Minnesota to win excellent paper and pen. You take the play on the monkey cells. Yeah I mean the vikings are another one of these teams that is -- it's like titles and it. -- the vikings yes and open at seven it's up to ten rule you know Chicago is a horrible team they didn't lose their quarterback which. That makes him a better team continued their quarterback but Kyle or start this week north and oil warrant that theory is they haven't won any games without Grossman. That's kind of a Florida originated. Arafat went in and you know went five until with a backup plan because I was already brought 101010s a lot but Minnesota's of home."

[1:54:01]" I'll I'll go Minnesota both ways. Yeah I would never ever take the vikings minus ten against anybody. But that tells you what I think Kyle Orton -- I don't think he played arena football I don't think he has any champion NFL quarterback so -- scores on the -- covers the number. I'll take the vikings well and."

[1:54:23]" In defense of view Tom Eric even if Griese played if Griese played the game I would be taken points and take -- and I take that I went through. Now Kyle or Minnesota both ways. That gets down to the last game which of course is the jets traveling to New England in what could be a very -- game. Now the case that's one. In the weather report says that it rained turning to know on Tuesday can now. When that happens we don't know is also I think wins going to be effective thirty to forty miles an hour now is of rating is stalling overnight or. It's heavy rain earlier today I thought. Oakland before they set goal are right Saturday night in coming into the storm host the start standing right. I don't know what it's -- in -- tunnel it's going to be there is rain involved yeah all the theater and now they haven't figured out and that's why -- don't know how much you Malaysian. Okay so messy that we got 13 and a half when he three and a half north and down a little and a half."

[1:55:27]" Boy obviously going to pick the patriots but given the weather conditions I think this is going to be a little bit closer. Then everyone thinks I don't think this is going to be one of those old and it dropped seventy points on -- it just I I see the job I see the jets putting some quite a bit their games they've lost what like half a dozen by like three points or -- or somethin'. I mean that tells -- that yeah tell Brian yeah they'll have had a lot of close games this year last holly against only don't know last possession so that Dallas game. Thanks thanks to read the transcript there in the last time we play them -- that one time you know all year I pick the -- with the number. I think I'm going to have to go with the jets it's."

[1:56:07]" You know was another team has been trying real hard buffalo we ever you have politically than. The patriots did you know the patriots big and don't don't give leaders they don't do this bill -- I'm more concerned about -- to I Caron having a having an empty. Whatever -- defeat either audio -- if you want to a great. He's the guy to walk it in a conference as well as Allan -- that's never happened before coming up from New York media press company -- public you know what he's coming off of he's got in the -- openly coveted our press conference violent it lasted. It the patriots will be all over the jets in the game they might -- score seventy but it'll be 48. Three years ago the with the weather forty miles jets have to play and that other. Nothing could be twenty nothing. Just -- all over at all without Kellen Clemens beat you this Fred I saw them play cowboys team had no desire to play play games they lost by 31. I -- intelligent I I just think the weather thing if they were play in the cold that I think that we look at the -- the ball's going to be all over the place they think. It's all over patriots --"

[1:57:16]" I hope that's -- I hope -- hope I'm wrong I like the patriots day to I don't care about the weather. -- going to get a first I would say that you know there's been a lot of talk this week about the fact the patriots are unbeatable in bad weather no adjustment going to lose the game. Right I don't want I don't try anybody's guess idolized how am I gonna wind out of their better I I I heard them talking this morning on on WB I know -- will Brady. Is -- and always known Brady like X and know when you look at his passing attempts and he's always on the ball around thirty times both that's a lot lower than he normally does this year number one right into in the course of the games know them a bit -- 123 and a half points. And adjusting and not going to win the game. You know for the most part the games have been closer and I'm -- think there where there was partly. Responsible for the games being close and they beat Miami that your twelve nothing. That was a dominant performance by the patriots -- I was only twelve not right right. So that I think some of the people have fears I don't have that here. Because I don't think that it would be able to move the ball at all that's what I think if his dad what whereas I think if you can move the ball a little bit on the patriots defects in it does but in the whether -- people affected jets worse than that patriots. Patriots -- me."

[1:58:30]" Two patriots cover but again and again I didn't change that up it's not going to be fifty out that it's going to be like 273 years something like that that would digital it'll it'll have to like different enough that whatever it is because -- take control from the opening kick off. To the final was down not the nine that I'm just saying that I think it's going to be a lower scoring games I brawl -- FL game of the year hit. Right now Josh -- on the phone and John you're on and the Mitchell report. Yeah supplement -- walking around your guys and Nacional UCLA Olympic analytical laboratory and Daniel -- you're just on the podium. Yeah he's on the podium right now and they didn't really gotten anything it just the only thing that's concrete right now is that in the Mitchell reported says that the trainer for Clement and as recently as 1998 basically. Themselves objections of stats and his you know -- air and that's basically what you're saying I don't now. -- right and then it did an effect on his performance that's irrelevant I think that this. I -- picked -- put more."

[1:59:38]" And in doubt and I can. I don't feel that absolute integrity and down here I have -- person in America I think he's got my original announcement. I think that what do you think that because we are. Big enough for Italy I thought that these guys were always doing and I think most people you know you do not know who had to only -- the guy --"

[2:00:00]" So to lock -- these guys were doing it all the time time. -- was now you know. And that's exactly right and I have to admit. A -- a names that are on this list of hit me -- to the bricks today Varitek yes when you gotta be kidding me no. -- Trot Nixon. Trot -- what I. -- it. He the first I would own would give them down here Z I I don't disagree I don't he's not one that I would have suspected. He would have an entire island he went from 17 -- five he would have been very very I might I don't. A lot of these guys you don't look for the increase production you look for the decrease when the you know started to come down what he's gonna try I was really up there in terms of numbers and January I mean we're we're swing and stuff around here. It without really you know as saying definitively you know what might have transpired is a lot of these cases. And I am sure it is with the overwhelming majority of these guys with the exception of the obvious ones are going to be to turn. Music yeah I took HJ did you recover for. From -- course that's what they're going to say yeah we don't really know. I don't know of any medium category I think those are both illegal performance enhancing -- does and I think it will be I mean in my mind -- treated. I know people have a and it was very GH as steroids I don't tiger achieved all we we went through this with the Rodney Harrison thing you know that's why is why some people -- and have a delineation -- You know -- that's totally didn't mean to -- it. Right now we gotta get going your -- at home we have to drive -- later"