PFW in Progress - 5/13/2008

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[1:22]" We're here and that this is a very special addition of PFW private because Eric's in -- I actually. As you probably know you're listening to this life right now. Any moment now automated thing that's 1030 commissioner Goodell will be trying to seeing the media in New York. At the Intercontinental hotel in telling us all about his little meeting this morning with -- the -- So when that happens we will go live right to it so you can keep -- into -- and you won't miss a word. Of the commissioner and let's get two genders operating reported what a difficult time. It don't worry about it what they've dealt humor Fred with a couple of that kind of a weird mood I know I'm I'm eager to hear what transpires. -- that asked that over three hours however. You know I'm I'm pretty sure that not the news going to come out of this but -- I don't know why don't they. You know anyone it up those people that -- in that room at this point knows what was said and were about to find out the you know. What do -- you can offer us I know anything that you know -- know no need from an organizational perspective right now is there will. With the patriots represented at that meeting. Yeah by I was told well I was told that there's somebody there not somebody that worked in the building but someone. Like higher bias that that outside voice an attorney yet that there. Now what's going on in this building right now like -- became -- that bonds is going on James is nowhere to be found probable you know I I hit a couple of -- Jonathan Kraft had it not about this but you know he seemed loosen not concerned. Usually if there's something really really important. Just don't get a response now what are they get an eventual do. Official is it possible the the commissioner called mister Kraft in this window we've had now for an -- in the meeting in that though just what happened to me -- the -- was called to New York. Though here -- not here mister -- not in the building he could be in New York that -- good yeah. I wouldn't take that as a good sign it was alternate I'd want to be or where I was -- what you all did -- Yeah I would want to beat it right he was yeah I wouldn't take anything about it if it's. Morning instead get here by eleven I don't know maybe it was yet I don't know when that happened well. I just know he's not here right now. I would certainly expect mister -- to be in. Not only been evident that the I would I would demand to blow blow it on the patriots in on the patriots attorney and I'm advising them. I would tell -- you do not ask questions help you I want to be there when Matt Walsh is making -- easy making sure OT -- lead at the Kraft family that he speaking sprite brand and all that after the I would want to be part. Absolutely what do witty intelligent is doing today. I know for a fact that right at 10 o'clock he was filming opting for the -- We're have we have an interactive exhibit where. He's going to help people learn about plays in different combinations -- you know he's got a like comment on though they're filming Bruins go about their exactly. It's like 9/11 -- fly planes go. Go take a trip -- You really I don't weird mood today. Like 9/11 golf quite -- yeah and well as Alex put that they have to let it go about -- this don't you know if you do and protect the -- of defeated Sweden if we stopped doing our business while we can't -- all in all the people who hate the patriots. You know get in the way apart this area that don't -- the Holocaust does Mike we got a line. We got to continue a little worried yeah if yeah Matt Walsh just like Hitler. 2008 is going to be an amazing year for the doing the patriots. -- here. It you base that I think it's -- I don't come out but he did EV ESPN power rankings that was the patriots won a with bat. You know I our panel I. Actually surprised that we didn't lead would bat at it best to keep ours -- shows he has he had power rankings are out of maybe -- go a little you know little leave asinine. All right one thing we did bring up coming down. On this fans I'm sure picked up on there watching the coverage of this is the very different owned that you give him watching ESP yen. Versus the NFL network ESPN is comparing it to vinyl basically that big of a threat they're just ranting and raving about how valuable it is how he could use it I trees that theory that's Cris Carter found a way to say that he got -- and -- and then you go to rich Eisen who doesn't understand how any of this crap could be used for it for acting you can't even -- to be somewhere in the middle. John Clayton state you know how they can use that the verdict that the -- in the use it during the game but it's clearly show on the -- that the had to be brought back. And -- piece together. You know the clock stopped and in our. My question they showed one of them is the one of the first things they showed was the Miami signals. But it was shot from a high angle end zone -- where where the film crews are suppose to be. So why are they showing that because I thought the issue would taping from the side now the the -- You know the beginning I think when they first started doing the practice filming the guidelines. You know the whole -- like you -- team run I'd like can't recruit wasn't prevalent. Teams were doing video with their coaches showed much in for the Internet. -- all they all the pitchers would do you know both teams have you know the -- coaches -- cameras all he would do is on the sideline. Over -- it and film it like it would be -- ain't right -- back for. But then what can't -- you know teams that team went camera -- of the Nightline the pitchers to took advantage of that. That well why should we because it was a better angled -- will have a guy. At the crowd -- You know focused on the action will have this piece together later and that's how I caught I caught but it wasn't it was never really legal to do it from anywhere right. Posted -- of the team's defense or irony that he called core beliefs interprets it the rule no matter what I what I. Isn't that right now no matter what what for what it's going to be used you're not allowed to film. The other coach that other and that was that whole you don't like it fixed structure with three sides and --"

[8:17]" That's -- ambiguity with the memo that -- the memo clarified it. No videotape him what to be done outside of that but it don't it doesn't say you're allowed to take the of the team's coaches from anywhere. That's where if you go back and read it doesn't say a -- allowed anywhere. But -- you're not allowed to tape at all from outside that structure and and it says the hoping for use in the game. But it doesn't say for use in the game right if -- there's don't hate being in the game. But that was without the loophole that that -- jump."

[8:49]" Don't through yet and that's why not try to clarify why -- in The League felt they needed to clarify 2006. Which it was a -- it was bully rate that would MO that you know for whatever reason the patriots chose to -- You know -- you know we got an email from a guy. What a party -- at this the guy like -- NFL network started department clerical position I think. Somebody might -- as from back and the differences of of the other two networks are really quite quite a contract clearly NFL -- house -- and NFL network is going to put us out of business and ESP. A -- twelve out of business well. You know is something that's been posting on the ESP in both and by the name of any idea -- your opinion and it just a hole right well I don't know that that's pretty convincing well. I read his stuff -- and I could do the same thing for the cowboys I think he could I I vote for this I'm but I don't and we did that. -- picked -- and I don't know."

[10:01]" The cost is right trade the organization is run very closely I think I couldn't be -- I can tell you that bad at the tight end has great hands and they use them. We Texans -- you man and they love home. I -- to stop the being that is I think he could get that you if you listen the patriots up and just bile that I totally view and Fred don't think. If it was someone from the inside. That they would they Belichick with find out who I mean obviously know that the is being mean of PR department used those -- and everything. If there was information coming from here don't you think that would be stopped immediately."

[10:37]" But they don't know who's doing well he now back and -- days -- I actually used to care cardinals' most people I would actually be. Working with him try to figure that I'll -- like them. Figure out on the ground now. If you can do you can extend their Bellamy. If I from my computer -- post and things out of message board about inside information here Yukio find out who know me. Now at birth Mark they don't do it from their computer. They do it from their own library is a laptop -- an era but you know where there's -- hot spot. You know because you can track the building from which came from and then -- a matter of okay now you gotta work with that internal IT department the you know which computer came from within that -- telling you rate him when there be some sort of conflict of in Boston to get it it would be presenting this is not a crime that was that it was a case where I think years ago it's a matter of fact I know this for a fact there was someone on the patriots bulletin board. Who was you know do we threaten violently threatening thing but if we had the plea got involved and it was. You know a young guys that worked at an office and they track that -- it was cubicle but that's different that's of a violent -- right is just the guy outing off -- there to meet. I would be I would think they would lose credibility any place that had Internet access that gave away that information for something as frivolous as this guy has right you know Donovan to protect him the teachers like him don't we did Tommy Ron you think he could be. It is for a -- Paul. I don't I don't think there's any chance in right. I don't think someone that was actually in the coaches in a circle would be on a match point -- week we feel this and we feel I don't think that would happen. No way I need it could be somebody that's the other thing if you were given inside information every single thing -- positive. Now they've ever said you know Matthew Slater is it is always as well after we should virtually you know -- and -- about the he's a decade they only had nine yeah I'm talking. That was a huge Indy -- by and we had 9 helping him added new one recently but I'll let there's like eight things about my game Eddie had one it condemns Ernie and I didn't read now. So I mean whoever it is that's -- that it's not a well it's Saturday want to get really you know I'm you know I'm sure there's people out. You never know what it could was in a long while what -- not very knowledgeable fan could probably do -- the 130 Adams came out like them. That I read this one. -- though I only had nine post yet. That that's another thing it's. But that the unit -- like this. That the bands will never worked against us again he needed the -- were Justin topics up Logan Mankins in end Olazabal you know what I mean right. That that was basically. Like in Diaw keeps -- and they got away one on one all across the field those things that bad defense won't work against us that's a good argument that this person doesn't know what the talking about because. Anyone who knows football who works for the patriots knows that that was a physical that was not a lot last scheme and -- it is exactly and you don't know. You know -- lighten. In the -- and in Logan -- going to get beat again that way you you can -- that -- he was always one of the most pleasant reporters around the team -- they needed to -- take him long you can hear the story for another indication that not -- out because scouts don't come in contact with them. So I was thing that was another indication is Burton has not talking about well you know I mean -- tomorrow the never relief. If anything into a year of hate -- I don't think he might -- all the players not talked to a well now before they happen. -- he. He went to the locker once in double a players that the im sorry John we got the work we can't talk yet. This email makes it sound like they stop they started -- him as of February 2 whatever that it wasn't this. He was whether -- was the raising persona announced on all Ottawa that. So that right there this is a fraud. Okay so any insider is not someone who's in the --"

[14:57]" I is that it would be hard to because so few people are on the inside with the patriot you know like even stuff that you get it you'd. You know they like you don't know their interactions of the football I'd go out and I just think it so hard to get those those little nugget of them to put -- on the Internet. And if you're reading an article based aren't how leaders circle works here why would you risk and do you sounds point when I agree with the mile and the thing to like okay you can't trace the computer and -- pretty smart if this up this kid now he's going to tell who's doing it and you're your future here going to be done because he's not going to -- that -- accident site but I wanted to."

[15:34]" Even if you put a fragment it is no way they could never catch him. But would you want to -- right. I don't that the other side for a no upside whatsoever seeking -- four with you know and and right we. Like that you know we were wrong and made a mistake we as an organization feel that'll never happen again that's garbage no way that team means I'd. I I I don't you write an article they're smart to do I think this is just some fan living out some little -- apple and I'll bill -- you do that if you went on there and solve this. In this was off that came from him and we've had good rule -- it great was a player. And if you -- that's true and if you were audio player likes to me would be the most plausible I'd I was exactly more. More willing to accept that it was player and why someone in on football at castle."

[16:25]" Public and -- they drafted a quarterback athletically outings lately gators. Our weather radio TV -- what -- dot com email address or use a reminder it isn't it commissioner Goodell. Come to the microphone we will go right to -- at continental hotel in New York and we will cover that press conference live in its entirety. Maybe it will go longer with the show I don't know who knows we -- my -- after 2 o'clock. I don't know what they're doing over there but right now on the phone his -- from LA John how you doin'. It."

[17:01]" I wanted to call somebody -- I think that the -- Balanced people -- to say that I speak for a lot of hatred and when I say I won't ever get over that beatable. They don't like you know this year mean which are going to -- On the open final Q what Sports Illustrated come on captains on the expert Aaron -- way."

[17:26]" Cannot laid in bed crying and over at that -- you know I still think about you know the cowboys and had a chance split three. It has gotten that one guilt and Ellsbury if they went that they went this year you can overnight but I don't think you can -- Redick has and you could have been 38 -- and what we still don't always been a part of me that looks at as a lost opportunity no doubt but. Like you -- mention Johnny Aaron Boone paying and I and bleed out big Red Sox and two. That one killed me but the fact that they want to the next year allowed you digital and -- I look at is they should've won back the rabbit they should. But I don't. Now like I out of his way out it doesn't keep me up at night just like if the patriots squad when it will this year which lets face it that they're going to be the best team on paper and they are number one of the I want -- are -- power rankings and ten man. I don't. It's strictly formidable. The cowboys won the superbowl the year after and you know it took that thing away but now years later I just think we're so locals that three. Man we were so close to a perfect season you know -- 75 it's 86 for the Red Sox. It never going to forget that right in what do they win another Super Bowl about to take the stay away."

[18:39]" It'll take away a little bit but look they go perfect it's going to be that like ultimate --"

[18:44]" So I don't like gap but if they win the Super Bowl like DT -- under. Everett does that million -- extra time -- I was ranked worked out that they go to public board with a Super Bowl you'll be happy."

[18:57]" No copy I'll be very happy and that you wouldn't completely make up for missing out on the history right."

[19:03]" Well as Bill Belichick would say it's two separate event you know they've got connected whatsoever. I."

[19:09]" I want -- resilient and since. Is that -- Paul's you know Eric isn't there you wouldn't you would chime in with any quoting what you."

[19:22]" I was. Yeah if it's all right thanks and I think our right."

[19:30]" from LA he's up early elected that. All the patriots appalled by only one of the -- they go on and that will be -- big show. Com is about how they have you know every team uses three signal callers dummy signal callers. And some of the lead at one point I had great but the other. At one single guy making some of those and signals I've ever seen in my life simpler than some of the ones that the teams I've been you on my -- yes yeah. Absolutely ridiculous how simple they work. And and noticed they that you could use it. The -- had like three -- was it was like his -- his belly and to -- in with that being thing we have pull your fingers across your finger at me and I don't think yeah -- fictional he had that I'm guessing very -- mines went. Putting that together with a play that followed could come up with something would come up with a friend. I think that why the patriots did this because you never know what it was about right you -- never know did the team is really I could change as signals every week as seven guys don't let's get it -- don't. Let's do let's do it and a lot of them write what I mean the browns it was that which date answer yeah. They weren't exactly dominating The League in you know revolutionizing coaching youth by the guy who had you know three signals -- one guy right so. Let my guess is there was a -- spent a coverage and -- let's get it all down overview wise probably might be able to use them we want but let's just get. It you know built properly with the it was a defensive coordinator -- get all the things that they're saying that he said. When he became -- head coach you don't want a lot of these idiots don't do that that you probably gain an advantage from. -- that and the rules say they'll get because that poorly written. And did you read the order article president you patriots fans like to promote as the reason why I was okay the patriots cheated with the chiefs haven't they didn't -- did you read it now because there's an awkward for this is needed sixty said everybody. It's great it's written at the next play and you know -- was played on seven different teams and every team he got to they asked in the secrets and Al Davis is quoted. All these things. There's word and it's got a phobia or something and it's it's the obsession with the with by. There's no doubt in my mind -- Beltre has that will be. Because -- Thanks everybody buying on him and he's buying and everybody Andy don't ever forget even paranoid people can have been in. Just because you're paranoid in and -- about it -- And fly planes. On but that's why my father's theory is is that telecheck his wearied and everyone's dual meet him when he's -- everybody and our doubles as the same way. Yours there Wanda was badly they're doing all these things they think everyone else is -- wouldn't that's why they're guarded alike agree with patriots fans -- this has been happening forever and it's cyclical that doesn't mean it's okay. -- been happening reverently they'll try to -- I think that's why you know you can criticize it -- I think he looked up but you know in this process but. I think what he's done with these you know more strict guidelines is okay. I know all this crap has been going on going forward on on my let right let's try to you know addressed this thing because that Torre talks about palace was one of the prominent Jeter's buyers whatever Paul Brown and wins George Allen tried to leave him to go coach the arabians I think and he who he wasn't going to let him believe that he was his best buy you need it. Not only didn't want to lose his best buy but -- knew that another team would have. The best buy by I was gonna say you I almost guarantee from what I know old George bell was so that's my you know this has been good you know Mangini doubt I around forever to -- rushed storied privately that one yeah. The guy that there at the hotel the night before on the road in this -- around in one of those banquet rooms in the our pot in the middle -- and the guys to talk about the game plan for the next morning -- Watson goes. A guy's crazy you can't talk about here Paul Brown probably -- yeah a lot of Italy's is Kansas City with -- Lamar hunt was notorious for about anything do you think Tom Landry was -- all that -- you know is all in the movie north Dallas forty holiday with a team flawless technology what do you think they were don't want that technology. I guarantee it come in -- is -- we did you know. I Willie William think that any writers bill and oh. -- we determined that wherever it is probably as it is really long these these vote -- and not all that entertaining if somewhat -- yeah."

[24:02]" If they had all had a movie reference in their I would have really come along when did that you can't believe -- benefit talk about what you -- during the NBA draft it would be -- editorial called dead. Five we didn't she'd have to ask you hugged him at all -- 2001. I don't know much on -- they'll both of call -- I try to take in the cold and wouldn't you know about them I'll read this thing. It gives you all by gate open and do that to my E or the -- And in close to a one of the nicest man on the -- He was out I'll -- who would think that Johnson must it was a very nice man on the beat Dean Pees that he did that John to that story on him home. Peace and -- in. But -- commodity on -- I don't think there's any -- or are -- do it yourself by saying I could -- that I -- I could not -- to ninety my -- he's angry that they brought in dom -- he's now motivated -- point with -- agreeing with -- if I was on the inside I would certainly know a lot more than just basic general stuff and anybody can we don't want to make -- to a lot of the -- should -- it and maybe you should be inside -- the first -- shouldn't -- if you -- little -- Well we have a lot of emails coming in with the spy gate stuff maybe we should get to those shall we should also now we have a teacher we'd have a teacher slogan we appreciate all our fans help in writing in and we are now closing the door on the okay we gonna tell them what it is now okay. When they're Donald I I think someone actually did right in that he should we is solid yet. I think the commissioner of let's go to with a New York great at the National Football League in New York."

[26:12]" Okay good afternoon I think you're all aware of the fact we meant for approximately three hours. -- 15 minutes this morning Matt -- and his counsel Michael Levy joining me in the meaning were. Jeff cash no folders for drugs or security Greg Levy and the patriots had an attorney -- to hand over I think you all seen the tapes -- the gamble there right now and but it was him again I guess not. We start the maniac thank -- for coming -- told how important what's at least understands all of the details and all the facts. And whether he could share anything -- it's I think he was responsive and I think he was well prepared. There have been really basically -- developments since last fall when that he this issue came to the public right after we discovered the violation of the first game of the regular season the first was that Matt Walsh -- reporters somebody. Who potentially had new information that we were not aware and as you all -- I said from the get go if there was new information I am. Reserve the right to go ahead and revisit the situation. The second was that the patriots had -- this Saturday walk through I just part of Super Bowl 36 against the rams today -- to confirm that the details. All of the details of his activities while he was the patriot employee Matt Walsh as you know he was in the video department was in the scouting department for short time. And -- in turn in the public relations department. The fundamental information that Matt provided was consistent with what we discipline the patriots for last fall. -- that essentially they were taping coaches' signals against NFL policy we were also able to verify that there was no -- walk through today. No one asked him to tape the walk through he's not aware of anybody else who may dictate who -- He had not seen such a tape. He did not know anything and anybody who says there hesitate he was in the building at that time of the walk through along with other patriots video personnel they were doing their job first of the game do you fact it was even on the sidelines and his patriots here while the rams were practicing. So it was clear that there was not -- covert attack or addressing. Access into the rams' roster in addition to those he confirmed that he was aware of no other violations of league policy by the patriots for anybody associated with the patriots. There's -- of locker rooms there is no manipulation of communication system there's no crowd noise violations of anywhere that he was aware. No my team of players to pick up opposing signals were almost so we were able to confirm that the patriots had a followed NFL policy as far as he -- other than dictating the coaches' signals two new pieces of information we did pick up in the three hours there were of note. One is that they had take he indicated that there is it -- at one point in time. Other players inappropriately practices he was a players on injured reserve. He practiced back and I believe 2001 he identified the player were verifying that so that is something that we will we have been looking into. I would tell you upfront felt that the way we normally handle those matters deserve matter of this team fine if they are verified and then there handles -- basis I would expect that if career verify it. That I would consider that there's a fine and I -- a minute against the patriots of course seven or 750000 dollars between the pitchers and Bill Belichick I would not take any further action on that but we will be verifying that in the second was a non competitive issues which was the scalping potentially a Super Bowl tickets by players he says that he was the one that sold the tickets he says it was -- attitude. 45 season over two seasons so I think this summer between eight and twelve I think was the number he finally use we will be looking into that of course also the -- non competitive violation or something of importance of sort of I think that's it as far as Thomas but I know you have questions -- be -- take. Yes hockey -- quote. Well I think if I stand before you today and having met with Matt Walsh and over fifty other people I don't know where else -- return asking that question and he responded very clearly I don't know of anybody else who may have information and just say we've conducted over fifty interviews. I don't know where also return I always is -- that you before reserve the right if you information comes off are both guys that's my responsibility. Yes it. I ask him that Gary moreland once. And he had some different answers to that with respect to he said that he potentially may want to going to coaching some day. So -- he'd and from time to time had kept tapes various drills and practices which he did on a regular basis he did not know where they have those tapes. And then on the second issue with respect to specific these -- he just said that he may someday need something for his resume has indicated those types of things he did have well -- a pitcher's employee. And then you would have some evidence for the work that he did I was those -- he gave me. Yes he infected very specifically said they did not he was very specific with the tape remained in his possession the entire game and they were not used during the games and specifically address that issue at our request wasn't much for your question Mark it's. In great -- we spoke about it basically he with the videotape as part of his responsibility during the game he would then take -- take market and then handed off to Ernie Adams and then he had no knowledge or where we're from there. No I wouldn't I still believe that again. It isn't according NFL policy. It is permissible to doubt people's coaching signals and as you know clubs go to great lengths. To protect those big change in frequently addition during the game so I think the teams are sophisticated enough to know that that's a possibility and they take great go to great thanks to -- But -- good to know the specifics of how much impact it has I just believe that because teams know that if there is a permissible way to do this. That they prepare for that."

[33:49]" Yes it's. Okay."

[33:59]" He said he was not instructed to do -- there in the normal part of their responsibilities to make sure they were prepared to do their duties the next day that people saw them they were walking around and patriots here he was not instructed to keep the walks through bite anybody he's not aware being -- there is no recollection is that all about to walk through other in the fact that he was they're doing his job. And he was busy doing his job."

[34:27]" Yes yeah. Hopefully it."

[34:41]" Yeah you'd think I asked him about that."

[34:45]" I didn't very specifically -- answer to that basically what he stated to me and there are those -- in the room is that he. Did not want to be part of this publicly and anyway he did not want to provide any information as it relates to this issue. He was trying to be consistent. It was a word he said to me with all of the media there were approaching him and he said he had dozens of people from the media that came over over water and about -- to see him they -- inquire about the story. And he wanted to be consistent and not say yes or no four respond to any specific allegation once he did that he felt he had to respond and other matters. You he never called me I never was able to reach that I didn't know about Matt Walsh until Friday -- fourth Super Bowl. It's for the -- is quoted as saying that heat had information that people would have to answer to to. Focusing specifically talking about. Well we just talk a little event that Judy from him. I think the best way for me answer that would be he did not feel it was well known publicly that the taping had gone back to 2000. And that he felt -- there was misinformation or not enough knowledge of that and that's what he referenced. -- media will there be any further sanctioning of the patriots. I don't anticipate it Peter presence and I think the -- fundamental information that was provided today is consistent with what we knew last September and that that the discipline I took was -- person I've -- and I feel it was appropriate. Yes yeah -- The same stories. You can you look back to -- mind regarding our investigation. That's offers better service record responsive comment period. -- what point. If you Bill Belichick tell you that it does he -- back -- bars you know 2000. Did you know that -- you can death penalty I I did Gary from the standpoint and I think we took us up front the bill belichick's interpretation of the rule. Was that this was permissible as strong as he did not use it in the same game. So my interpretation is always had a interpretations were off and that he had done that's probably as a head coach of the patriots that was that was very clear to me. And I -- Okay here perhaps it's an advantage for them. Gary nor the opponents say that -- and obviously there can be more information but. It was clear that it was not just an isolated instance with the pictures because we had other tapes from the pitcher's so we knew that it happened and our seasons we knew it happened there were multiple -- which all of you. Because we discarded those suits the next week so yeah that. Because I knew what they had they they had told us in advance of part of my decision was it took the first step we should just reversed a little bit here. We were the ones who discovered this violation. We were notified that somebody was on the sidelines what it appeared to be taping coaches signals our staff. Apprehended that camera and the tapes. And brought them back to the office I interviewed him on Monday morning with -- our staff. So we're the ones who discovered it and disclosed -- later in the week and discipline for an unprecedented fashion so we did that quite quickly. At that point time they had admitted to the violation bill had told me that points on his interpretation. Was that it was permissible to do as long as he didn't use in the same game. So I was comfortable that I understood that this had been a practice that he engaged. And that I was just going and that's why we use language and Richard -- for the totality of the acts. That was the issue yes that's been in contact with the patriots that you immediately met all morning and if so what was I have not. They said his attorney Dan Goldberger the pitchers are turning him over -- me was in the meeting -- Today and they I don't know I don't replace yes he. Museum tomorrow so there as -- I believe his attorney is ugly returnees -- worked out the actual possession of the tapes. I essay questions self. Yes I think it was very clearly known at least by that he believed and he stated to us that if it was very clear that he had to. Be careful but nobody discovered what he was doing that he was very cautious about when he did it who was watching and there's certain places where he didn't get access. During this very year a lot of teams said. We're not going to allow another camera here on the third level or the end -- level so I think they were well aware of the fact at least according to match. He believes that they were well aware of the fact that this was something that shouldn't be done. So I think you are pretty well on the record here -- an -- of those checks explanation for what happens and I still don't to this day. Yeah yeah. Here tomorrow it's yeah wouldn't have had some values -- more than minimal value to the patriots. I don't know if any of us can save but what the true value of it really is I think the reality is someone asked me the Super Bowl and I still believe because of that extensive extensive teams -- To prevent people from taking their signals. I think teams are well prepared for that and so they don't allow that we have -- a big impact on the outcome of the game they recognize that is permissible and our rules to do so obviously teams are always trying to find a competitive edge that's why we got these competitive rules and that's why it's my job. To enforce -- competitive competitive nature of all those rules that's what I did here I did not personally review all six six 45 of course that point out in September and looked at them and they were extremely consistent -- what you saw today. Pardon my saga as someone take the the -- it."

[41:50]" Roger was there any discussion -- Matt Walsh. About the fact that other teams either have been doing this far are doing this. And it was a widespread practice and he he implicate any other teams."

[42:03]" He did not is in my recollection of the mean historically we did asking the question he stated that he was not aware of anybody else doing it. He said at one point in time he became suspicious that one other team might have been doing a similar thing. But he had no verification that at all. Recognition -- that. Was told he had to be careful about what he was doing. Who is telling him to be careful out of this line of ordering go inside appearances supervisor Jimmie -- I mean his his. -- communication his manager was dictated by essentially Jimmy -- was ahead of the department that Jimmy did give him most of his instructions. Once in awhile I guess Ernie Adams would give them some instructions but it was very different -- guess he did it was not I don't believe but I didn't let me ask -- It was not. It is just -- we can declare what are essentially said as far as tapes -- games it would be -- they -- opponents that they expected to play again later in the season so primarily division opponents think. I guess what that. Quality there was setting up their operation they have they have trainers they have cables that they have to set up. In effect is part of the investigation was not. That was not aware of it but we were told him very clearly by our operations people and also the patriots. Verified that they were actually changes the day before the game so they had to reestablish some of those communications systems. The usual but -- finally you know that. A member of the opposing team would be out there during the walker. No the only thing I've probably had a little unusual who's sitting on the field -- pictures here so obviously so yes. Was there any indication arrested -- the Williams were on the -- patriots walk through anyway and people. And I don't know about Peter I didn't unanswered questions. I know that the patriots front first and -- walk through it one other thing just to clear."

[44:25]" I did Matt Walsh have any contact with the Bill Belichick. Did he told you about."

[44:31]" You know do you actually described it one one point is the man behind the curtain some -- that they just didn't see very often and he didn't have any very relationship with or contact with. Yes yes I think you all got the agreement so there were there were questions. And -- topics in advance that. They did not want to address and we respected him. I did not. There was off there was not a permitted very very lucky losers -- Well I assume that it may have happened -- identified that it Matt identified three times -- it could happen he was a little when he was certain number one game he was more certain of the second game in May be -- uncertain about the third game but all assume that it was three games but I think that was in the context of -- the rule is -- offensive or defensive signals and that's what I believe guys that discipline toward. -- men who want to finish your point about the art it was quite clear and I think he saw the tape of Miami did you not so I don't believe it is with -- place. Those were personnel groupings so they indicate whether it's you know too tight -- that. Four wide receivers that's if everything that you -- yes and he confirmed that by the --"

[46:10]" You said earlier that. Walsh didn't want to come forward and say he didn't have a rams walk through campus and one of the media what that's where -- right would you lose did you ask him or Juventus -- hated that he might shoot defuse this at least through his attorney collection notice you didn't exist and -- you askew was. It was a war with three and a half months and waited to speak to him based on what you heard today."

[46:36]" Our interest the first I don't think he had an attorney Gary until the Super Bowl sometime around the Super Bowl. When we first started to try to reach them immediately around the Super Bowl in his -- person. Or grows I think it was at that point in time we were told he's getting an attorney and even after you have to contact him through the turn on -- through the attorney was able to give me advice in advance about after the superbowl. I didn't get into specifics on that is that the attorney was there he seemed to corroborate that he wanted to be consistent with the media. He was he says to me was extremely aggressive about trying to reach him almost to the point where it's difficult for him to do his job and the second part of mergers are perfect talked about the media you know forget about that part we just getting the word to -- That that he didn't exist -- ID they had no interest in doing that. Obviously whether it was worth between a half months of talking. I think it is because I think this is important you're doing when the integrity of the NFL you're dealing with the public trust in our game for fans there's obviously been a widespread media speculation there have been reports violations going from my -- keeping easily walk throughs and that I think the general interest in the public. Was we want to know the facts. And I wanted to know the facts and that's why we're here today to get him to death integrity you believe everything Matt Walsh told you as anything that you doubted. In his answers I think in the fundamentals of the things that I was concerned -- from the competitive issues and then what transpired is that it is that we did 50% of his that we had quite a bit of information we obviously didn't share that with him but. We have. We have to put that up against the information we have but I think on the fundamentals he was consistent what we were told."

[48:28]" And."

[48:34]" We don't watch any differently during the meeting we have watched those in advance. Easily found the original tapes did you. I censors of this perception out there that suggest -- patriots versus The League I think it was reported in the paper this morning. Yeah you try to correct that it was majestic it's you -- you did you accidentally blurted the NFL that there may be somebody over there who's inappropriately taping signals approaches. -- our personnel went over apprehended the individual apprehended the equipment and the -- And took the camera and the tape into our office -- and usually you were you there to be alerted or were you there because I was out there. I really I was doing I was and I also and it felt it was. Are we always have somebody at a game. This was you know I credit our staff for being aggressive there was resistance to Finley's and they persevered and they got the information and and we -- and I think that's why we have I think important step that we took to make sure that the the integrity of the game. Is respected by all close and it's one of the reasons why I responded so quickly I want at all 32 teams you know. Play by the rules. I think just still didn't draw your attention to a very they -- little yes. -- there."

[50:02]" Having met with the now rules are you comfortable with the punishment handed after the patriots."

[50:06]" Absolutely I think it was appropriate I think it was unprecedented which it should be. I think it's so loud and clear message not going to patriots specific club play by the rules. Roger how why -- player."

[50:23]" Do you think videotaping coaching signals has been. With the NFL over the last few years."

[50:29]" I don't think it's quite spreading his very limited Peter and I saw that before I here Friday I think to -- the benefit to it you've. -- coaches former coaches it has been I tried that I -- any benefits so I think it's very limited and it's practice and its effect. And tell Mark isn't very significant difference we're not in the middle of the season. We were in the second week of the season where those tapes potentially could have had competitive consequences so that is not something we do we don't even talk to our competition committee about various matters during the season those -- matters that we deal with the post season. Which is why -- gave them a full update in February which is our first opportunity get together with a."

[51:21]" Yes -- on what they need to we're we're not going doesn't invaded. We'll -- I."

[51:34]" I'm not sure fully understand the question of the may have through just where I was not fully confident with what he was going to tell me. We had no indication. What he was going to tell us what he was going to bring forth we tried to create an environment where he would come forth worth as much information as possible. And I think he did feel comfortable I think he indicated to us at the end we -- the number of general questions is there anything else that we should ask is there anything else we should know are there any other violations or any other areas that we should cover. And I think he it was very satisfied that we refer. And so was his turn. The finish your question. I think you're gonna have to ask him a question. -- I'd be guessing. I just met him this morning. Just on the -- can be penalized anymore and also is there anything done prevent this in the future. Well we have done a number of things to prevent this in the future as you know Grover took some very aggressive steps and it's off season certification by employees -- respect to the knowledge of any violations we pass as you know the defensive communication system so that the coaching the defensive player can communicate so we've taken a number of aggressive steps that we think will raise the profile. And most importantly will ensure the public event 52 point atmosphere and level playing through. Guest on this some. Ticket scalping is was it during years -- the patriots were actually playing in the Super Bowls helping support and words. To work -- because patriot players that he scalp the tickets on their behalf is that. Can you elaborate on that that's pretty steady you -- I believe it happened over two year period while he was there so my assumption -- 2002001 season. I'm not significantly what we will be following government yes he -- he gave us an additional details which we won't release -- we will pursue. If she did. Couldn't possibly just play action against those people yes we disciplined program in the past you know so if we find a violation there. Obviously this is just an allegation but we'll take it seriously believe me. It's -- to twelve tickets -- book tickets yes. Over the two years."

[54:09]" Okay."

[54:12]" Okay thank you there."

[54:18]" I have well let Roger Goodell. That's the totality of his press conference. Is that right now let's take a second that digest it all take a break it will be right back."

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[57:44]" Right back here -- WA -- brad yeah our right now. -- analysis the press conference nothing new revealed other than that might have been a guy who told me and I are practicing back in 2000 and."

[58:03]" Tickets about -- was involved some players scalping tickets which Dempster again. Bledsoe might event arbitrarily I was all the big -- But so Bruschi all the guys that made the most money -- and a ticket meeting I don't know on the serious side. Did we know factually that Goodell did not buy for 12 -- excuse absolutely well. Because why would he come down so hard he had every ball because -- for the explanation. Because if you break a rule is that wide you know with the rule was mean it's not an out. No it isn't but I I I don't I find it I mean I think that he's been China I remember this time he -- that bill though it was very eloquent in his explanation. But I excited to come down with the ruling but I just never heard that in by 12 which is based I don't know when those -- his words were pretty strong in those words were never said before today. But he he didn't buy out in the you don't you don't find seventh 2000 take away -- round draft pick if he had any he could have been. You know I would idyllic I was doing it yeah I I think it that's two different things for a I think that he could definitely -- like it that he might have thought that but the matter write the rules the rule broke the rule. Of the I just thought -- did -- wrong lead the way he said that in the press it was very strong yeah. Nothing I I was intrigued with the way -- out way out now mocked the media. When he started by saying -- the tissue around those again you want to watch those tapes again -- the media who has been saying all along that you destroy table is all from the start -- though exactly and no one was suggesting that. We everybody needed to he he hate. You know at length and indeed don't even know what it is they're doing with him because I don't think it most of us have enough football knowledge really copy and public eye for the information again. We just wanted to see what at one. We didn't need to see. In its totality as they have to use the word you used different you know I I again I think that. He can't help self but be part of the Doria trust yourself and there and be. You know Kennesaw mountain Goodell may just have to be the all mighty all power one -- that are -- yes who we marvel lot for being able to. -- by the it's a league matter whatever it never inject himself back into it Goodell gives in on occasion becomes a human being with you know."

[1:00:28]" Writer whatever and and not like it. I'm back -- okay so what how how that Johnson mossy -- had a door. That is that the patriots -- interest of the -- walk through and yet now Matt Walsh saying he was there. On the sideline during the -- walk through with patriot garbage as far as he goes no tape ever existed. Of a walk through of -- of what happens so now what happens with that -- it's very interesting do you go after him -- and kind of -- him -- the corner. And -- intent to you know ferret out oh oh as well I don't know I don't think he would ever do that notre good journalist would but it found shot to -- I'm on the phone with what's right now what Polly pocket right now you know. Happened and part of the reason why. You know -- available. The journalism is a funny business but not for everybody and it's part of the business -- I was never really fond of it I can tell about it. I don't you know what if I I don't I'm -- going to try to -- making -- myself I -- a story that I was protecting what it was between going to jail. -- protecting my or I'd be given up my. Right now I would totally does cop I would even different about it and why maybe -- not really cut -- you might be right I. I think I can't help but I think -- sport I think you're right but in real news. I think the fourth the leader of the fifth whatever they call -- I think that. I think we need a free. An Independent press. And I think we need journalists who will -- go to jail. Before I'll reveal that course and Amy when it comes the real news utility. And report by the government you'd need that type of integrity or -- Mike guy now you're in rush yeah yeah that you're talking about apples excitement knowing it when you when you're dealing with with real news in real life. And not that you know as people stated that the toy shop of America right but sometimes they cross than that happened in the -- and in one of the reporters go to jail for awhile. They wouldn't give up his you know talking to my go to jail. While -- you'd have to have a -- odds were right around epic you have to have a situation with the herald is going to try to who Hammond. In that but it will be no in avoid but -- if they solemn and if -- in court or he won't be enough or plead the fifth and that every right but every at bat like that he didn't break any laws are broken any laws -- that was the right to not incriminate yourself he would be incriminating I don't know. You don't know how you can incriminate yourself and that's why you plead the -- you don't know sold the -- give up as sort of thing and it actually he had to. I'm sure he's already been asked to. -- will -- be legally ask you by going on patriots in the court of law but at the way it's thread if he actually has a short. And I'd be easy because it that you looks really bad I don't -- people believe. People thinking you know I I think people believe someone told him people -- in the source that's the thing who is the people thought all on the list now -- Now that now that it you know. At least appears that it not Matt Walsh. People don't believe that he has so people they keep -- and I think he looks back at it his career in jeopardy I think Pete has given up. His career is going to look. Really really bad I know like he was the only pro racing map walls dozens of media people were chasing that rush McNabb -- he's -- a or I don't but they are on the story. So if that shot to my seat old. All these other people -- not right so this out there or or is out there telling other media people though. You know not like tomorrow was the only one at the door in -- You know out note tomorrow it well but there are different stories involved. That there's this story of you can put two and two together and find a guy who used to work in the video department who now out of football. Will you chase simply because this is a videotaping per teacher he worked in the video department. That's just a good reporter would be able to put that together down on the rosters of guys that have been in that department. But now the next one is making the jump to someone tape the walk through. And Matt Walsh and you're tying pieces together like likely -- off the air before the press conference today my hope was. His explanation. Would would that. Yeah I did tell people that -- tape the walk through in actuality I was there and I realized I could have tape the walk through because no one. You know booted out of there and in the excitement of the aftermath of the Super Bowl win -- kinda. Exaggerated things until people I have more role in this then -- really did. That's not what he obviously just said he was there it was -- don't want to it and knowing he's but he claims he never told anybody right right he didn't yes no doubt no such knowledge of any such tape -- right old -- tomorrow say at first story according to a video game. Now corn to a sore or video at right according to a always a video tape the walk through programs. Before the rams. So somebody's -- and that's why they. John looks bad because acting people think he's line. Apparently he looks bad because the horse was had no you know it was Wednesday to begin with -- there wasn't enough corroborating evidence to write a story like that. If publish it that hey I if you ignore that would agree I. I had even -- Matt Walt has the patriots go up in arms it to write a story that has. Little corroborating evidence based on one -- unidentified -- that note the ending the publish it that the AB for the superbowl. Let that -- at worse. And it he would be so you think he all the New York Times story a little ironic I don't think he can be -- I gotta prove to -- that he knew was wrong. No you you gotta put down with malice I don't think you can do well I mean why then do it the day before that's when the story came out they on one but other people -- At this store and they chose not to run so what does that mean. That that the herald for some reason that let's do it anyway. Event doesn't mean -- that was malice involved. Well it you can you can -- guilty of poor judgment and I would agree with you I think that you know he claims that he had -- You know I don't know what they are going to be -- tell us we have no idea how flimsy anywhere. On his editor at some point absolutely. -- actually I have one don't the doesn't the editor make the decision whether we can run -- Was this went on and I'm certain more than one guy was involved definitely. Hank what colonel at the -- not -- his name's not out there that you're right because. Because that's a four HRY seven of the guys seem to have is that. I that are very very close on the guy with a had a training camp. Now that's what editor for -- make the -- and what not to go with a right that's why every time I get in trouble I recall Brett yeah now -- group right now that you're -- more jacked up I. I've read every pay that get published in pages football weekly after you guys -- If that something in the they shouldn't be in the air it's just much my blame as it is the person who wrote it because they look through my -- so the other day when instead of -- the -- it's in the paper and went home that I read it. I read it ruined I didn't remember -- just you know what. But I would great and I knew or were getting I knew and it wouldn't it would have changed anything or I mean we're not any right. Eyebrow when I read that hank -- deserves some of the event and that has been -- the patriots -- he went for hank is an editor and what is it how to handle it all the top. HRY and I EW I easy. And Roebuck and -- three times the last three years for libel law each time lost all three up with what did -- got a giggle like I don't I don't want to judge Claudia. But Dallas eight right now and -- was bad on both ends wasn't he and in the note he was threatened them they were threatened that was just a little but a father Harold. I gotta think at the very least I gotta do so in the make that up. You know whether it's you know. I hate them lose -- job at moved removed Tomas from the -- From from a I don't -- I I don't think it's worth that I agree not worth our story in the in the yeah. I absolutely you know it's very windy article going to cover up and and not only got Fred but don't think in his in his -- of of note that. Other things that may not necessarily be directly tied to this by gate thing ask rod and -- out right I'm on the dirty laundry that's commonality to -- but what his relationship with an anemic treaty after duel with. Whether or not he took steroids sheriff that's what happens when you when you open these kinds of pandora's boxes but I do think that the herald believes that. Reach out some way with -- an olive branch."

[1:09:46]" I he had he covered the team anymore -- now is yet it is only happened acting acting to the yet he he just moved him to baseball the one to reward him and kotsay gets a but he wants. The maybe it would win one beginning color work for felker called Jeremy Jacobs a liar and got put on the patriot and his career took off right. You know on making on the fact hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars in off -- that's the -- you know like the whole domino effect that is the one chip that was -- take the job when you offered to go way back in nineteen when he when he got promoted ostensibly. For growing up almost caught in the paper millions of dollars. When he got promoted for that I figured. I'm not want it is business that's like with the job. -- well. You know it's interesting we had a lot of emails that came in before the press conference and I -- a lot of those questions have been answered. So that's going to don't -- but there's other things that need a lot of people of written in about Kevin Jones though. That we for a few minutes we can take a break by -- wait for some more emails that come in. And we can talk about your thoughts of Kevin Jones paying a visit to the patriots not relax your patriot not really sure how he fits in here though I think is the classic majors when they love a guy in the draft whenever becomes of --"

[1:11:08]" I just and I don't know like these -- two yet he's hurt. He's not a top inside runner that's why didn't like him coming out of college as the only hit between the tackles well. Couldn't he doesn't talk of the future -- maybe maybe that's how they can make it -- because he does he caught a lot of balls in Detroit. And he didn't really at Virginia Tech with -- for the running backs and they had -- So -- a lot of passes in Detroit maybe they bring him in here they -- you know you don't -- much with the injury that kind of got put on the UP as the music and he that they don't like about Jones. He has a hard time he's kind of a poor man's world he has a hard time getting by the line. But once he's in the open field he's got he's got moves and speed he can do some damage so when you throw a pass out of the backfield. You don't have to worry about him to be told him at the line of scrimmage and all that. So I think in that aspect he could help the patriots."

[1:12:01]" It out at north and I wondered here is maybe if there's something up -- anymore that's a little more than. Will we sign another guy. Well just in case you know you know kind of effort. I network here actors anymore so mean I want -- yet anymore -- a mean he's he's been back hopeful that idea there was enough if there's nothing wrong with more than I don't really need. To have. In -- at at the backup running back spot for 2009 I don't think it's worth I think they do the same thing we do. We fall in love with a guy in the draft prep for years ago. How he never did it in The League we hope -- The bill right we do research on him but the resurgent balls actually fly -- the -- talk until I agree with you on that I think that part of it is we know. And that draft and we heard people on right away I was trying to move up and get him operates in the second round and then Detroit -- them up before the patriot. Right that's Kevin I don't know -- no threat you know Adams after it was all over again last night as he usually is with patriots related news and who knows maybe he's a guy that we're talking about by the end of the week is you know another guy in a patriots backfield."

[1:13:14]" I am a little bit concerned though about I have to admit --"

[1:13:20]" May -- come and gone he did make it apparent when he's got a little. But you your right hand he's now gone and -- like may first Tom Brady has come and supposedly he and you're going to have this huge bat at. Down the -- Rica or somewhere I don't know what obscene you know so you know -- I'm definitely because there and I mean yeah -- are prepared for Super Bowl isn't going now. Got a place down oh very good huge party is clustering what decline in his family's are I think what is. I don't know -- get to know if it. No basketball gods allow fans get -- wage you can get out of questioning that but. He's usually hear one of the first guys here look that was all that doesn't matter that why you all are doing that so why has it matters so much in the past writers had been such a symbol of the patriot way quote unquote. So maybe you know -- this is it debuted the pay day in the big bat and from that and then on all of the new target eight I -- if he's not -- July haven't. Building I want him here maybe want and contracts and -- and you know what this is Indy. You know -- like a cleansing with that -- press conference in. You know as much as we all thought it was going to be -- really run a number well -- any revelation -- the pack your mind you worried about it you know what Winnetka it was actually right what does this -- not gonna say you never know. Fred now exhale. The spy gate at least that one to a putting an -- right. Now we gotta deal personality -- setup is mine he can really he couldn't afford to have how how many balls and keep. Below -- he couldn't afford to have spy gate in Brady's whereabouts. It really really I -- an out at spike it's kind of on the back burner. Directly into town he's got that -- thing we're given away. -- lines aren't something and I know any at the -- he's got to make -- with Randy Meyer. You know they that the -- 11 of those make a wish -- I think I can't agree on how he teaming adapted so which that's pretty cool. None of the -- talking until they had really really like yeah I I mean in. I can't up rock I can't help while he's had enough like those Chris Connelly as those on the piano all time and and a -- Bruce even a that not not don't miss the fact Paul that the daughter and I company that didn't -- out on its -- I -- that he's got. Image and it's a cry at the one and I teach. But he. Wonder years -- a great show I try -- usually -- he misty when it -- the black and Toms -- on manly man I don't know pounds outlets there's a little apparently heads down. Not for -- Like that I just like your post draft thing that's a woman have to get a baby she gets the rest what a fun. Now they are now part of I told you he's feeling his -- September 11 postpartum. -- we clarify what you're exact stance -- Tom Brady I want his ass here okay when I read that yesterday oh. So you're concerned. That's a little bit more option like we are out of the reception from. It was just I would laugh that all the people make -- I mean internal perception I mean. -- environment that is the doing -- yeah I do I don't have any real -- that prix won't be prepared now opera but there be day to day in my. Not really in the first -- gave him to be representing totally my point is I think that you know on from watching Brady. He he will be prepared you wear down late in the year preparation will not be a problem he -- in the playoffs. While according to allow one about as PFW's and -- posted shortly after we get back upstairs I'm not really really negative ask PFW's. Taking apart the two more toward quarterbacks in the -- French. Two different email him brutally tolerate."

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[1:19:14]" All right I remember that -- that who's who were turned on Drew maybe you're taking the ball was very suitable to. Right exactly it's okay that Brady could take away Matt Cassel hire off his car that didn't stop him -- Jay Fiedler and Damon Huard had a big battle in Miami and they went with -- out Fiedler and he would eventually came here as a free agent that the dolphins want to gain -- the Fiedler touchdown run in the last second against Oakland. He was on the cover Sports Illustrated but the ball just over the goal line. In his hand up in the air and Drew took -- copper and put in Damon Huard yeah he won a full it was very. There's -- couldn't really take it joke but it certainly well they killed him they got him but he and you -- heard them make -- fun of his head the other day when -- walking around Ilya. All eighty. Elephants outlays of the head is not you've gotten up an audio on Drew intense and but I think we're pretty close and it it would trying to get out you know like one of the -- at -- who worked construction -- The hall and it was just one after another route -- all and -- can predict it squashed it."

[1:20:18]" He does while -- at -- like had you know these glass on those -- he took from -- let otsuka from the elected he was wear them. And then rookie took him and he's like rate they'll make you think how big these are. Like route is like lighting it up and -- and I can wear -- way. And I started laughing in elect me but amicus that it Christian got a big head through. A guy who can't get into a is that -- immediately allowed Italian lifestyle but it's all square ravens. Those terrible glasses that he wears ravens -- was a big practical joker and he. He's a very good -- you wait right cartoons about players who the last good story but I. When they would get let they'll let it would come back full force and you know he had money and so some of his practical jokes."

[1:21:09]" More elaborate that's not fair about these yeah I was more money can have in race control can't fire back the Brady can hire will McDonough and up. Ranked team the guys to fire back not there will be looked like one of those real radio guys right now and an up front of them might you know what -- stupid -- not adding any."

[1:21:27]" strippers says that just goes ruining Tom Brady period in this somebody at the phone this is -- beat the."

[1:21:33]" Whisperer patriots dot com now it's time for Indy -- urban dictionary word of the day that word of the day he's so it. I'd like to thank you for some of that entire process there but anyway to get -- and after listening to Roger Goodell for fifteen or twenty minutes. It's an honor of Roger that we do Roger Red Hat that's Roger Red Hat. And you try to figure out what looks like that might be involved -- an urban dictionary word."

[1:22:04]" speaking of our Irvin -- in Houston it is on the phone right now JB hi Dylan. I -- what do you recovering from the Super -- still. Yet but yeah maybe we look forward we got to look over --"

[1:22:23]" I am optimistic how optimistic and that's exactly what you gotta do but it doesn't still make it. Heard any less split again with a non the slogan -- hasn't been closed -- yet it's up. We're PFW where we we up the patriots staff -- we pulled no punches and eager lunches."

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[1:23:18]" Some snap that you know as as I said the beginning of the show Eric -- Exploring the pyramids and his sexuality -- it is emailing and well. Any that he went Egypt things with think there yet to of one of that off -- that that was actually funny it will be strangely quiet without -- there again on this thirty and it's not talking from -- to. So apparent. Eric goes Egypt in the country falls apart that was a tour bus crash. Possible riots -- price increases in a crack down on earth the marriage that's a -- sanctioned marriage -- Eric know we can do that kind of thing just over the border Massachusetts. There was a tourist bus crash in which Barrett there and it would be concerned -- On the world -- we got our boy nick in China who avoiding earthquakes Eric avoiding bus crashes because if you heard from Nicosia point. Hi nick it's fine we have anywhere near him a guy I know the at -- that was actually 600 mile away but. Because of the rank it you're the -- building you they'll feel in Beijing knows Dave Evans seven -- that the -- are really do the Monday news split it though exactly what you need Eric for. -- are probably did the money news with it yet no announcements that knows how to do our military leader is there anything you know it's very easy I don't know how to do. You go by a look at the -- to write a little -- to -- you have to do the hyper links to do with shift -- seven five and them. All the pain if you do what do you think might vote and boy -- think bombastic and stupid."

[1:25:07]" What -- it's on the -- Two or three years ago -- for nine years rumors for dirt that Walsh. Homers but I just told people he paid the -- walk through I don't -- those rumors are true I don't know if she's a dumb and wasn't trying to. I've no one else but that's what -- what happened today. Did that either it turns out what were bogus -- never told anybody that today. Feeding he'd tell people that but what blog about it sort. Okay and oh it's -- write -- say it's true I think aptitude and."

[1:25:45]" just days -- year's -- Mike doesn't have a social anymore of these on other people's you know if we don't actually does this is no it was a well that's all throughout they -- it also ordinary in the radio now. I had the radio what don't want to -- like PN the magazine I. -- have a great -- Aaron right in yes to questions about the press conference -- one other pick is going to get further penalized no now. Where it was that and Antoine k's on joke what this might have like this it's one Ks and oh yeah. Well not what I'm could upset yeah I'd ask that I do have a question how can seem like open. Until the very end the only people they got a microphone -- Peter Kenyon -- chapter everybody else I heard like muffled in the background I wonder if Peter King was with -- after. Navy -- you could hear really anybody else is point. Cap on Michelin need to talk we've heard Michael lynch we heard Judy Battista. He can get -- Judy from the commissioner Peter -- had its own microphone. Why I was that and yeah it really is. Really early as unpalatable but do you find it odd Fred you know not that would picking apart like the procedure of the whole thing by. There was very little lob Boston. I mean there are albeit by -- yet -- asked question and ask questions the only boss number -- and he was on his IR he had the couple he -- question. I didn't hear him ask anything -- was gone when he asked the question to think all cover this well once I don't for awhile they'll want to know Gary was there Goodell addressed the Gary now I'm wrong here at -- speak I can tell. You're Gary not mildly retarded yet at Gary Myers from one of those New York papers yet and we tied it all only one of the most highly respected writers out. So yeah of elevator he also points to a web site called the sports law professor dot plot top spot dot com. But I after -- you're arguing the rule in the of the rule is so messed up lawyers are even arguing over. So it's -- that the original rule in the management book and -- there's overwhelm any rules and boy that I could be argued I agree with I think it was not written well but -- rules and every but I think -- right and -- taking advantage completely in that evil thing injuries. When initially on the balls up in the big office that's the clamped down and you get a little bit that you get in trouble it's completely inconceivable that it wasn't understood but I agree a 1000% -- it was poorly written. I chill and Russell dale is a good thing the team already cut Rosey Colvin at least they won't have to deal with the personnel shuffling when a suspension for scalping while comparable to. -- he would have been prime suspect. I was around batted -- that -- there was avoid it wasn't here he'd definitely would have been if you do a cellular that aren't. It was selling a car that happened to come what -- like. But about the it was I guess Florio is writing from strippers but it's from pro football talk. That wall is going to be the star witness in the pats were the herald. Loria thinks it's going to happen Matt. He would be the star witness if there was -- do you think it's going to happen and not. Because when you were telling everybody that they should do they ignore you I don't know they should not but I know that it's -- really that they take -- each side not they found me every. Why Robert from UK is and get dealt statement he said Matt Walsh won -- these tapes. Tease for job interview is that clear cut evidence to say that the rest of The League -- Why the hell with the rest of the -- want to eat if they're not going to do this. I didn't -- I don't know it mean I think it though that when they'll ask them why to keep the tape that was going to be his hands and it's a good answer. -- good like if I take. -- weekly -- is that I think it took him because I -- examples of what I did although you could -- I stole 83 year old could have done what he did you know I don't think it means -- about it I agree with you put -- don't you think you were called little weasel all the opinions -- but -- the -- he helped the patriots I think that. You know he did what he had to do. -- people went in. The people away -- try to get him he's a weasel you have a future and upper management is -- always is involved in upper management -- He claims he doesn't want you know I got that people why that might beat -- they. Operable but you know we how much we do Tony 5000 that it yeah. Your on your mind we have to what. Happens when they're meeting with specter won thirty supposedly and they heavily right -- now pressed him and -- Konerko marched out on Capitol Hill steps and act like -- We'll have to do is -- yeah. Patriots you know what I NFL network version of the show it to me are here -- respect they're now says it at a high in ball couldn't. He is that right yes -- well that's it at that credit be like after they -- the bat that was was being like 530. A five. Probably going to be like tonight it happens now original five lines in my world my never members okay how much people like Fred I proponent and -- know really exactly what happens then I'll buy the I'm Roger from Fort Myers, Florida that The League should refund the fines and give the patriots back the first round pick. The punishment should be allowing all their opponent is coming to fill a page single all of them often -- special teams calls for Gatorade that your. The pages to not make the playoffs that will tease them a lesson it would be appropriate discipline but they -- they would have to be considered the best team that ever played. Doing it with a great does that mean. And have. -- for a wild at -- For awhile that we got away from worrying about the best thing -- the best running -- that's -- you know -- back to acknowledge -- have to be considered the best -- well was so focused on the things that aren't important quality you know they had a chance -- best team everything -- joked that it has -- winning Super -- we -- in the in the good -- worried about him -- where I'm worried about -- him. What I just -- an example manipulate its great to clear up this legacy thing that we clear that up. Twenty years from now people all. How are good enough yet I want -- okay now I'm talking about how he was talking about how -- just winning until it was about breaking records and winning super you know on all due to undefeated but this step one today for and I don't. Of putting -- in the past and I think -- specter. I'm assuming that now lost everything I expected it to how good dale yeah yeah that was part of the agreement but -- look back -- Where 1 I think -- up one of -- finally. Coming to a close Danny and Orlando for a time email I have it was that you -- for quite some time now. Wanted to get your guys opinion on the dreaded Super Bowl loss -- when eyewitness on the patriot sidelined due to me that from the start of the game that -- kind of -- what ever look on their faces. Do you think it dealt told them at the beginning of the game. That they better not win the game due to the hole by gate incident yet -- it would make the NFL look bad."

[1:33:22]" That we will have MP says they think Eric is probably on its ninth Egyptian gas mask from a bunch of dudes. That the that I can only imagine it be good I do it on. I do think the Goodell put the word down and Africa that you went into the patriots locker room for the game actually had -- to tell you just don't seem and they."

[1:33:41]" That's why they took the lead late because they -- a -- did you look at getting outta -- for the drama that's why. You know they had that great play at the end and all that just for the -- been thrown that big -- the clippers had to be scripted. We talked about any insider a little earlier strippers thinks that -- is the beacon of insider and now now. Now that this all lie why I -- drop your salad you've described as a cross that he's been in writer. I thought wow you know. Okay on the topic of saying inappropriate things do you think it's inappropriate for a female anchor. On ESP in the morning to beat gusting LeBron James Duncan Kevin Garnett and says let's go to Mike Woodson to get his opinion of will on May end -- Well me and Jim imply something looking a bit on urban dictionary up."

[1:34:36]" People shouldn't say it it was probably -- I'll wash up. I'm -- I I don't believe I've ever heard from -- before she's in Montreal. She is up -- don't ever leave the show again last Thursday so -- with about. Without without a doubt the worst ever consisted basically of almost two full hours of any reading stupid slogans were males. For teacher that's probably not going to happen anyway -- toss my prominent being held in Logan call Tom at all we're going to act two hours a disaster I usually -- your guys via the podcast with three years now. But this was the first time I had to cut it short. This is worth it you know it was the first time he she that this was worse than the Paul alone show Ventura -- as a whole show that to that have been worse than mileage and probably that's a legendary -- all along legitimate. I think she was complaining about the fact that emails I am doing and -- that was bad it would not not the last now all the terrible that's all pac man. -- and it. -- I. We -- get better because he has that are no way in all of joke it's better I'll think it will hurt it while. Or actually person at their pop in Minneapolis United. And Jim is in fact on urban dictionary.com and not surprisingly the sentence in which they use it. And -- and it dot dot dot goat but Eric is the choice of description is Eric there was a lot of interest version is put. Now holders there's a strenuous rob Ellis worked up on Eddie wood now. -- from Quincy this -- to bring it up again but I just can't seem to get a radio on or is not. Legal to tape another teams offense or defense that I'd be illegal. You cannot debate you can you can write it down. You can take photographs of them so what a whole thing about in building a group that presides or whatever that taping. That game you can't take anything outside of the structure but he admitted that you can't. I -- that you should be able to take anything that way you have to worry about it I think a staple of belichick's problems with this whole thing. Both teams have a camera and it's -- the 2002001. Video all I -- wing -- over. Ten degrees and other camera pointed on the line or the how can he rules that cannot be in for eight. Maybe because he figured everyone else is doing it to that gets back to that word I don't know but I don't I will be I agree with him but that won his problems with the whole thing. I -- as many people claim that the team's only violation was the location of the camera. But that's not not according to Roger Goodell that is not true. I believe that the location was not the they cheated because they videotaped signals yes they they were they got in trouble because -- videotape and she. We thought that. I DG enjoys at first I like the got but the more I read -- started to think it -- so good after all. He really screwed the whole thing up if you was truly investigating the issue why wouldn't waste time with the former disgruntled city what's that should -- be talking to people like. -- rack -- alleyway -- any knew what was going on eight benefited from video practice the question. When he was with the team why didn't -- speak with him when he -- you think you -- that's right good point -- could -- that he spoke -- people right maybe negate it -- media sure as hell didn't make note of the media machine has really turned into a monster. They could tell your hero result -- the background with the media -- PR savvy in his -- we now know you lack. Not good in this age of information blogs and entered cool. So DG enjoys he's taken the commission could use a big splash in the positive you need something where he comes out looking like he really runs well. -- doesn't job I don't like the way he and I had a point -- patriots I -- caught on pretty you know I -- cancer and with how we -- another thing that really bothers me in if that bothers him as happy as much as it is I can Qaeda and why he. At the knee jerk reaction and destroyed the tapes is. When they had the -- that they got from the game who the hell in The League office leaked them out -- that was quite the other it was quite. Yes network you know who held did that. It."

[1:39:12]" Right now it's ridiculous oh is well what are your other against a William greens only -- good run in the as an NFL player."

[1:39:23]" I'd what have your brother goes wild. What -- your other E mailers get a performance review for everyone but Gary. I've waited a couple weeks now but I don't think one is forthcoming he'll have to perform so here is my review of Gary in draft. Pro one of the best available this position especially at a price the patron or -- the day. Two shows good anticipation able to turn up microphones. I great react well to the play able to interject appropriate sound clips right on time. Fourth and really low -- Really blows. -- attended is an issue at times because his team to turn up our replacements -- that. At times lose focus has been noted to zone out begin mumbling about Ray -- the black queens they have until lying undiagnosed psychiatric issue. Three off field issues rumor of an affinity for underage girls. They only be a matter of time before picture of Gary in R Kelly surface on the thirty dot com. Summary clear first round talent although off field issues may leave him unavailable they may -- them available the third round with the bagel maker. And then he has a quick question. Gary I mean Tom should probably be here -- but anyway says that listen to that latest interview. After he was drafted like everyone else that was puzzled by the -- however I would even more puzzled. By the fact that he had visited about a half a dozen other teams how many potential late round draft pick -- teams bring in to work out he said he visited or had contact you have visited half a dozen."

[1:41:00]" Other team I don't -- help I don't think he thinks someone talked to me from a team and now I I would be -- in visit and it right right. The if there's a lot of low round picks that I actually did the majority of the visits they used up. It did you might not beat good taste of that because they had to high -- here that bring in. You know four or five of the top rated players but usually when you're picking. Down there it is that there's a lot of guys you have to kinda you know kick the tires on and and figure out what you want to go like what is it thirty -- yet. I think a lot of those -- capital geyser. Made a late round picks on it and read -- an important meetings you can promote idea we have a problem we think the patriots are getting screwed. They always do I agree you know how teams are allowed to have days where they visit with local. Prospects either grew up in your area or from schools in your area yeah I think that's unfair. The team from Florida have an automatic advantage where it is ridiculous football teams in high school in -- I mean. If you look at all the players either go to Florida Florida or whatever -- went to high school in the greater Miami area than it up. You talk about 50% of the draft pick. -- he's -- Texas and California. There's such a ridiculous advantage for those -- Ohio Pennsylvania Texas Florida California I would even eliminate Ohio Pennsylvania I think those have been passed by. Cal tech in California or or. And that's not mean the Minnesota Vikings who get to invite three people ticket point to point that rule is archaic bring it up the -- a lion and he'll bring -- the competition committee. But because it is he's getting food now so that's another -- his arm yeah. India does he get a couple schools but -- you know going to get this thing in Florida Texas California. -- so other rules that you know this is not necessarily against the team but. You know what they have the pro days and all the small schools don't have -- sedate them to debate satellite like around here like into in the schools any buy a ticket from -- that got drafted -- usually those guys go to PC's road. Well you know that if you're outside of a certain radius from from Boston what's likely because Santos could not go to east road it's right. Which by the which happens to -- which it has -- cut already yeah. And wondered what to be. -- quarterback always -- as an athlete at all he's an."

[1:43:29]" I'll let me Sean McLaughlin has a list of things that they discovered as a result of today's meeting one they found out that Elvis had guys. Two after studying the tapes they feel James got the -- died at the into the soprano and it was done Carmela. Well done by him on bike from now three this -- what real because they sought in an episode of the six dollars and or not happy. Drew Bledsoe spent more time at Foxboro last week that Tom Brady hole like that one. At friend's all about one Bill Belichick keep secret camera in the grave but he he whereas in that is why the red nobody in the Super Bowl. -- I'll expect I like -- out of I'll expect to says there is a tape of the superbowl when asked about it while I know the guy the tape that it was he able they have -- Johnson on board not that which goes to show this is in the biggest waste of time I've ever heard. The more you hear about the state gave them more ridiculous it is it's private talk about serious football objects like what game -- the pats wear their throwback. -- anyway and I was actually know they have a new throwback go never thought it was connection to win and it's not a throwback it an alternate writes an alternate -- and it's next year. Not this year. To write whatever it's what to which is Tanya I don't know for this year and actually of his -- right speaking of red I like the red on the side of that museum your building that really pops. What is that going to be rental. In the museum the side. I want to look at yet they're putting on bright red dot that looks like it the final are good. I didn't notice it Andy I didn't notice right he's lost it flat out walk right on all levels. So -- you like the red on the outside of the hawk I'm glad I'll call the architect normally approve. You that's another some negative because I think -- ain't gonna close by December but I tell them that I really liked -- so. I think yeah I think it BM positive. Cottage doubles goes as they -- Judy Batista was on the NFL network did you get a tingling you know what what's out there who spotted nova -- have you beat her after an HD."

[1:45:45]" that does anybody -- that -- one of the -- Apparently that not good looking one if there is a good looking no there was not a good looking and that blue applicable -- yes."

[1:46:01]" Are your wife know about that. -- let's see Chris for much who -- just caught a pass the Steelers game for Maria I didn't offer sheet here would knowing when to remember that right. He's one of those restricted free agent the patriots try to and one yeah. Unsuccessfully and I can expansion have right right task is. As the new email there. This email them last night he is going to try to make sure he contributes to every show good that we like country anyway that's good stuff get off Brady's back hasn't done enough. Not sure heavily bracket will work we can't ask for more from anyone is more even working out stuff maybe he's waiting for. I totally agree with all of felt good attitude let -- wait until of Brady gets it reports -- July my Eddie's point -- Mark is wait for. -- and I'll work Alan Brady does it hasn't started yet colossus and RT I totally agree with it dealt telling them that they'd better not win the cheaters don't win via it would look bad to children and all that public relations crap. You've dealt also seem pretty this way and saying he never believed -- used his face kind of looked annoyed -- could he would have suspended him. And that's getting the job. Then dealing with the spike it crap it is now there's no question in my mind is bulls it and they wanted to spend in the could have. He's the commissioner. I don't believe based on the I doubt he could not the herald of papers to repeal the story of the team's own egos in rat them out. Could've waited till after the superbowl I hate that paper and will never read or by. I need patriot news of you guys yet and a cut Kevin Jones I have Maroney in my fantasy league I think -- going to be as big year. Kind of like Corey Dillon's first year but the Kevin Jones could screw that up. Thank you have a big impact that would make me think twice about having no rodeo my ball release third year -- gotta be with it as I'm Okafor emails -- reach a they shall we ran an ad somewhere that we are the the home upper. -- herald readers. As you know he's -- things only going to come to us now if we do that. We should give it really get a ticket to the herald a Carl for homer to herald circulation going down but I'll take so what's the -- model would be the original call homered and hit it big league level here. -- do. To win back to your readers to show them that they're going to have unbiased coverage like legal. Are they in their PFW won a week into the -- I like and it goes all the does that on by because whereabouts in team era. While the gloves that you want to fight and the official the alleged bias in the herald is. Right but well -- yes I both papers and you notice that it right there it is right right. Most on but I duty. -- the globe is clearly -- more positive that we are about everything. And the herald is way more negative right where where we should be we are the middle where the seventeenth stated that whichever one it is. One of one of those -- Diana is from Long Island. And he says ample I'm relieved that Goodell needs to be -- it to rest they've here's doubts that specter go to be willing to do this -- Do you guys think the specter is really going to let -- and equally continue to press the NFL to go on and on with a witch hunt that has gone absolutely nowhere. Per week -- I paid four dollars and three cents a gallon for regular guest this morning it makes me sick. That congress doesn't think they have more importance to be focusing on other than some idiot ex pats employee. Upcoming visit specter we -- where do you live loving the show without Long Island."

[1:49:56]" box I don't think he has anything. Left these are so daddy day you want to make five dollars the hard way that they showed the tape. And could dole right he wants to even get out again and I'd be very surprised -- it does have anything to say right I don't see what he could do but I would like that don't. Really think congress quote on quote has been pursuing sector had and the thing -- one got a one of those comments that kind of irritates me. Doesn't factor into the and it had anything -- No in a lot of the how much time do you think he's taken up Rollins. And are an argument as do but I can take anything -- should they be Kieran diabetes -- I mean come -- It was. There's public record and a comedy gay people take off right got a lot of time there about anything and they get every time they run for something -- there there's always well at their report that was ever important to his constituency him."

[1:50:56]" Except for the ones on Comcast is from stores Connecticut that was it. I can barely the signals in Wallace's one points out of the pits look at the cheerleaders like that. -- there locally he was instructed to do in all seriousness -- think about this the pats are what thirteen and one versus the bill that today. But at the tapes for use to build a library of tendencies of head coach how would that work at the east every team -- to. Staff turnovers so wouldn't that suggest more toward legitimacy of the wins over divisional team. Rich I also makes a good point why coach is not turn them in earlier waving at the camera that's stupid. It would have nab them way earlier I don't know what you guys but in the videos produced no shock value for me but actually makes me more comfortable good call like it dealt with the could go -- him more public outcry what without that you have as much as the patriots that you -- Dave but obvious lead it wouldn't continue to do this. If there wasn't some. Benefit I I think that I'm teams realize that they had changed singles in the -- what you're doing and -- laughing other teams. You know maybe had no clue what's going on and in those -- this really did benefit and win one game because of it it that's a different."

[1:52:12]" Every coach that we saw today is still in The League in some capacity. Why -- illegal the last 456 years so it doesn't matter the delay in Miami or buffalo whatever and -- His his benefit to be gained or they would be doing. Oh Terry and I won one that with -- though with the Frankfurt -- he has rich guys it was a ride by five by. Yeah not surprising Jackson was -- announced it terrible almost as bad and as embarrassing as he was the -- of the half and members were were what was it hail to the Redskins. But -- at least today I'm guessing his boss's performance the office that played a fine job out there aprilia good told you that. That -- just NFL network either the -- today right they got. -- but I'd be remiss if I didn't read this email from -- tennis ceases Gary is the best. Recently every seat of a voice on ecology. It's like a plastic surgery to your voice now I sound just like Gary. So you demand Gary keep playing that stupid yet funny sound bites you guys rock in four H thirteen. All -- say about that and he's you know all the points on calling his surgery on his voice. Now that it is going to win American Idol that. And it emerald Jeter's father Arafat got -- hand."

[1:53:36]" that's that's another shot by the way he's been on that I didn't trying to make it for like twenty years but it's still surprised people cheer that. That's not going to end well for David excellent it wouldn't bother he'll end up Evans who -- parents have been of those guys. You know I Gary Coleman if you are."

[1:53:53]" very ticked off in the fact that he says. The patriots are covering -- expenses to get from Hawaii. I don't think that's I was gonna say I would I read something that said that the part of the agreement with the NFL was that the patriots had to. Do something and then. Basically with the NFL had to pay -- that he has here after more than two months of negotiations lawyers for The League and while quietly read. April 23 two terms that would allow him to talk with it though they include an agreement by the patriots not the walls. It to pay his legal expenses in the air fare to New York from Hawaii tomatoes are separate thing in the I think yeah I think again it's. Poorly worded it looked. Sounds like the patriots are agreeing and pain but I think it's The -- today I records -- that's how I read and The League The League paid for if not the page that."

[1:54:47]" Those little cracker like when he said. For one of the minor infractions that the the penalty would be fine generally and with the players -- are player practicing pride in the dead and it. I don't think I'll be adding that -- 750000 dollars very funny you know. -- that -- parliament like. 5001 and some ridiculous -- people would have to write some 151. Standard play dollars and third you -- Robin match."

[1:55:17]" Burns says you had an email -- the other day who that they were just getting back. The getting some patriot news you guys were surprised. I can say the same thing here it was a tough season with spy -- and being called cheaters. There were so many ups and -- I just started with you guys again he's right near the draft so thanks for bringing me back but we had a good April and based on the fact that all the people an -- that we should have record numbers are numbers on RI -- that's great thank you for coming back we hope you will not because will be here -- third -- this Thursday. Because even though it next Thursday anyone -- make sure that it's it's also this Thursday it's not next -- that this Thursday and out. We'll have more of this answers going to be more reaction and talk about football and we'll do that --"