PFW in Progress - 9/9/2008

Tue, 9 Sep 2008

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as we discuss the loss of quarterback Tom Brady. Can Matt Cassel expand on his solid performance against the Kansas City Chiefs when the team takes on AFC East rival New York Jets? Plus, we'll also discuss whether the Patriots are still a playoff team.

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Play from 8:55[8:55] ..." same after he his injury he has been an average quarterback since. Daunte Culpepper flat out never came back and is retired -- Tom Brady he might not be able to do it anymore. And I"...

Play from 14:37[14:37] ..." I know. We got a lot of emails people ask PFW called Daunte Culpepper call this guy. There were reports that Chris -- and Tim Rattay were. Being sent to town to potentially work out but. Bill Belichick definitively that yesterday I -- theory -- that they didn't"...

Play from 22:00[22:00] ..." in those -- their talent at point we've heard these stories about Daunte Culpepper right throughout the off season he's had offers he's want too much money well with -- if he were one of the"...

Play from 23:21[23:21] ..." goes to. Noise topic guy. So anyway -- signing of Christians aren't Daunte Culpepper to evoke a caretaker for the -- the year and -- you're done anyway. And another aspect of this is not meant"...

Play from 29:22[29:22] ..." I mean. There's worst -- to have I mean we talk about Daunte Culpepper he he ran an offense like that -- when immunity plate screwed up tomorrow and they're pretty -- play in this league."...

Play from 48:54[48:54] ..." but you know. And he got the -- and I was with Michael Huff I mean half of personal secondary he Whittle them. You know he had 300 yard pass on about what when he sports"...

Play from 1:24:04[1:24:04] ..." Drew is one of the guys called. And I think Daunte Culpepper was if there was any effort at that he's had a lot of really I didn't I have talked about if there"...

Play from 1:30:12[1:30:12] ..." per now and so when Al Michaels mentioned on the NBC telecast Chris Simms would be brought it will work out when ESPN start running a crawl. During the Sunday night baseball game in the --"...

Play from 1:38:37[1:38:37] ..." I'm talking more from a physical standpoint you mentioned Carson Palmer and Daunte Culpepper I don't think they'd feel the comeback because they weren't driven it was a physical. Well -- you're not able to blame"...

Play from 1:39:50[1:39:50] ..." now you rehab properly which is not a Wal-Mart somewhere where right. Daunte Culpepper right her if you rehab properly and come back to the scene team. I think you're going to be seen. I'll not"...

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Play from 3:19[3:19]" Have to look at it on paper they've done this before every time we've ever -- their group now admittedly every time we said Tom Brady Russell quarterback has a lot different they've gotten by with. Mike Vrabel all pro they played without him Richard Seymour all -- played without him Matt Light and all pro league played without him. Randy Moss the all -- they played before he got here they've done Rodney Harrison played without him for Ty Law and all pro they played without him. Now again admittedly right."

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Play from 4:52[4:52]" Right now you have all that well that night and no way down through the rest of the 80% lead as quarterback issues of war I agree to -- taller quarterbacks do they are now but. With pro -- returning from here in the coach. Well this this the year that -- now -- to carry the team unlike last year where the offense carried the team now they have to return the favor. And step up in an Indy more like that 2003 team where you could win game at three field goals not that that's going to happen but that you need that kind -- and -- on the football. -- after on ball control offense in my opinion on the clock and keep the team off the field that's what has but the Bears."

Play from 5:31[5:31]" I mean that's a good comparison with the team that is fair defense hurts when they have a successful season because their defense. Plays great football carry them they have a young quarterback who you're trying to make mistakes BA game -- whatever. I think the Patriots are probably more talent on offense when you talk about. Randy Moss and Wes Welker Laurence Maroney anymore though you're ahead of that type of a team and that's a bear team that. Based only the first game they're gonna compete for. A potential NFC playoff spot so you're in that mix and that night I can ask for the raking in the pillaging continues. At the last agency leaving your house won't have a -- on him well. Well -- somebody else. That nobody else okay. We -- meeting -- You know at the door -- by you know they -- him I let me give everything you have in -- what is this -- let you you know not a man any. You know. Oh I. Open -- I'm telling you our talent this team was cholesterol and I'm not move officially lost look I'm the first -- we will continue I'm not predicting -- I might have to go down from like twelve or and -- great some are not though but. Michael Smith and twelve and locate him good him but what I have is that ratio Patriots every game is going to be competitive in that dog. I agree you know at all you can. Really at at this I -- what. Was quarterback. You know that was that was really what part of other. Now we don't have that but we have a nucleus. Of as solid team is it --"

Play from 7:14[7:14]" Interject one thing I don't want understands it this is more fun now that while I was or wasn't horrible when we won by a 45 -- screw that particular ways that spot. The onion on your on your heels that you weaken and added you read on it might not find it more into -- yeah but it got more one immoral I was in the season became more interesting because every week you have to walked off employ -- the NFL that you don't want to thank for Patriots fans let's be honest -- Patriots fans have grown complacent we have -- that -- You know I kinda at halftime sometimes I go do stuff and come back to that they find in the -- was a great time you have punch -- Petitti go outside mowed the -- But the wrong with that that's one that I -- season became a lot more interest forever for Ensberg this -- ever or inch I think it's more aggressive everybody outside New England. Not here I think more thing for everybody you're getting yourself Patriots and you who are glued to Seattle from now on yeah you have to be you have to be right up my game sort of like I'm going to be one gore type games in the third fourth quarter I think Patriots dot com becomes more important I think PW becomes more important. -- show become more important. Watching the game become more important. I think every any type of information -- get. Become critical now an understanding what the team and I project."

Play from 8:38[8:38]" Doubted coming back from the injury. Is going to be virtually out well because you know how I joked this offseason maybe he lost a little fire he wasn't here is often. Maybe Giselle had dragged him away -- commitment right. Now he's going to hear the Carson Palmer was never the same after he his injury he has been an average quarterback since. Daunte Culpepper flat out never came back and is retired -- Tom Brady he might not be able to do it anymore. And I think in the next starting next February -- whenever he's done rehabbing and is just plain working again. The fire lit beneath him is going to be I think you're right can't put it out."

Play from 9:15[9:15]" Talk about that in the offseason but I do want to give you -- we get emails and calls because we have Chris with the CIA and holding on we have a tons of emails. Lined up here. I I cannot believe you do the politics and that -- dam at what our best and I did the word. I'm not. You know with the precedent that they that would protect the quarterback not giving. -- out of that hit on Brady active. You know I think it will work has every right to be curious about either they'd both weren't they both wore. Was Wilfork in contact with a bill when he when it happened he had a -- On leaned forward kind of with a or in a way. Okay not on. The blocker on Wilfork was he. Contacting Wilfork in pushing him will -- the caliber of the ground he was on the ground when it happened in the one -- Pollard -- Pollack the difference the NFL is saying is that he was in contact with a blocker when I was playing -- block the right time that is crap. -- what was otherwise you let my -- I know I don't I need to see a replay I don't know I don't know I thought I haven't seen it here it is ask you bull when -- and here's what I what does it matter if they find the -- a -- or not it changes pretty allow I don't doesn't at a penalty it doesn't add anything out well for -- but he liked it to the NFL took into consideration. Okay this -- Showed remorse afterwards okay he didn't want to -- with don't doubt that there was no intent there I'm not that. But they all said that if we find. In addition to him doing what he did and worse case scenario Brady never played again we have now defined his career. Who the guy yeah Boller had to give Graham may be already define -- parallel line when it comes back. You know. But. I I think that you know he showed more immediately afterward and I think they took that into consideration. And you know what. I mean define his Koreans young eighteen could go on have a nice career believe me he's going to be the guy that knocked -- Tom Brady. Running her here but I knocked out turn green by a pyramid that anymore but I agree came back. He doesn't come and -- was never seem well. Trent Green is no Tom Brady right I agree that you know -- know that Tom Brady is probably. One of the face of the NFL but you get three years someone's gonna say. -- idea I hey I element I don't -- I don't -- Al downing is guide -- through that pitched to hank Aaron appropriately recognize that their record setting moment I. Historical. Momentous moment that way but. That's how this guy's going to be the fine Brady to replace it yet Celtic that in consideration to Broadway and alerted him at that -- time is that a precedent to protect the quarterback -- well I think crap I think I think the -- I don't -- will -- have been -- I -- him -- he's -- at a -- And you know because the problem with the -- they come down hard on the Patriots every time you get the -- pull in the world -- the mid. They they have a ruling in favor of the Patriot. Believe me that they they don't like listening to -- pull -- and that knack for. About -- fired up I have I. -- All black -- about that so you don't think he was being pushed him was in contact with. Because I think they treated at the same way they treat a pocket right I will be the same thing that have been upon I candidate Chris -- they -- that he was blocked all I don't think he should penalize it at the time I don't I didn't think will -- I need to need to play and I haven't seen Natalie. It was crap. It'll work at him with the helmet on -- with the game -- aplomb he threw an arm flipper. While going. You will what he's doing the show waited until the that we actually we have the our. Ultimate call. Where I -- it. Should I say we had a caller are Marshall and second only going to be tonight guys yeah obviously -- Eleven now what do you think we're going to talk about. I I gave them the it it. -- quarterback play. What the most important thing happens with -- pay to be playoff contender. That's what you. Other all right now we have -- giant Chris I don't. Chris. I thought. Are anyway. About every radio talk it'll take callers. That vividly -- I was a little bit on. What do you do after technical but -- well. Crennel social mcewing half our balls. Which kids you know now Karl's way."

Play from 14:23[14:23]" Okay I'm far and we get a call back a a a -- right on the phone now. That was going to talk again and he's going to get -- we'll talk business that -- What do you think about the way the I know. We got a lot of emails people ask PFW called Daunte Culpepper call this guy. There were reports that Chris -- and Tim Rattay were. Being sent to town to potentially work out but. Bill Belichick definitively that yesterday I -- theory -- that they didn't work anybody out that they didn't give any physical. And what -- that we had a lot of calls what you theory because I'd rather hear -- well. The reports. Chris it was on the plane. Coming up to doing -- already but that was accurate."

Play from 15:10[15:10]" we let me. It doesn't want to talk to you anymore. As you'll like him but how might -- to the first -- is. Let me finish okay anywhere on the night that on a plane and we -- camera hey it was all coming out. Then during the press conference Belichick is asked have you worked out -- when he is typically this no we haven't worked out anyway which is probably accurate. If someone had asked that question has anyone is anyone coming in to visit. Make it might have been a different in but I think that report now guys were here. Ballots sent them away without working them out without giving as the oh oh team that the word got out Sunday night. That they were on the way up here that the he let it come up and -- And you know what happened is. These -- Is there. If they don't get the call to come visit they let the word out with the public opinion gonna be start doing the viral Chris Akins could be a Patriot. It was going to happen in bell curious about that it seal it."

Play from 16:15[16:15]" Early on your team might as my series. I -- now like any theory my theory is they were doing due diligence in the immediate aftermath. No witches -- scramble -- okay we might be losing quarterback we -- to bring in and then they thought about it more and they said. We're bringing in these -- quarterbacks to back up Matt Cassel because there's no way those guys are being brought in starter. That is our starter he knows -- he's been here four years. And I also don't I don't think they wanted Matt Cassel over shall I don't think they wanted him say and yet they brought in Chris and he's started games in this league and now everybody just wait I fail and that but they still. Need much -- What I thought preclude him. And but cap. But he's never started automatically he has more start everybody staying. Well I know never started he barely carried out Gutierrez. And -- but that's why I basically everybody's going to say well three weeks it'll be and as soon as cal gets done well but everyone can say that has built the unit but not -- hearing they're dealing let you know what. A team that has reading allies of three out of jail. And fails but it got back up. Yeah O'Connell tour. Now they -- without -- crappy road I mean yeah and I go to guy falling okay that's business is usually have to brings in Matt Cassel and the lower so let's do Bill Belichick and handed him. The backup he's the the last three years and it's paying. I have ultimate confidence and you I don't need them as in. Chris it was a change of mind it was a jerk react on the night they had -- I think it was potentially a change of opinion between the two faces of this franchise right. Scott pioli when he Brady goes down right. His immediate job as well I getting guys ready my job is to provide talent for -- belt to work with what he's doing his due diligence making calls rotates out there and to get them up like. Then they met and they knew for sure he was out. Because my guess is those guys might have been called at halftime of the -- By Scott pioli or his underlings. Then they met and they talked it out -- those. This is Matt Cassel team. We don't know where we have to play Chris so why we bring him here we don't want -- now looking behind him we don't want Matt Cassel thinking about anything other than the fact that. I've trust him to be in the spot for three years it is -- You're the keys here's the show go any it has anything to do with one new shirt that they were putting and I are. And then mine now I think it was. The timing. Paul what do you think. Leaders. But what do you think. You agree with it. They was gonna say what I I agree with happily and I don't -- really Bill Belichick cited. Out of -- While it was even thing. You know we're just going to try him out but. You know -- that you need a backup -- so your theory. You still have to call the guy whose agent didn't pop out often bring -- and right. What point maybe no it is. You know that -- looking over that my point. -- we've gotten a lot of calls he really tried to distance himself from that there's even a job to be open here. Has the job."

Play from 19:45[19:45]" I think I was surprised -- that story got out of -- That the Patriots are already bringing in. For him that night I'm wondering where that information come. Maybe the bullpen was a charade and I wanted to give and ask that that is whether or not -- call whether or not. You know you're thinking that Chris it was could be out. You know the last thing you want Matt -- like Mike said that. Right right you know so -- the last that you want -- were immediately bringing in somebody else and to you know. Right the ship made the whole -- charade entity called the ninja and we have no interest."

Play from 20:22[20:22]" Well -- I'm I'm blow leaves at about maybe pioli possibly make some preemptive phone calls right away and then bills is you know I don't relate these guys sent him home not that I'm ward -- format has -- is now there's no problem with Matt Cassel having somebody behind pushing him is that what you want. What you want competition anyway I don't think it makes any sense because I do think -- need -- quarterback I didn't -- regular thought I was using it as a tactical. You have a plan here to -- back -- confidence by showing him how much faith you have in him that maybe you know I want these other. Okay. It. Without bringing it and bring it. That's -- guy in that that I don't know whether they call them just to make a shelf it or whether somebody called and bill had known now that that muddies the water I want Cassel have a clear mind isn't there a possibility. That bill. Phillips got right from the get go wanted these guys -- talk about the -- And these guys got here and hadn't been a pack -- student coming here maybe -- a pack of for a week or 21 and things and and part of the avenues that job and it's a woman in like an unpopular that was going to happen. Could be those guys are idiots. Because I mean -- have a very high all the numbers through that this whole lot of talent here. You don't want to go interest sooner or later you're the backup and thinking they're going to do the job with a leap from now or not. So to come in with like all on the big bad veteran backup quarterback like Joe and bright. I think terror -- doesn't stop players and having high -- in those -- their talent at point we've heard these stories about Daunte Culpepper right throughout the off season he's had offers he's want too much money well with -- if he were one of the names I think that would be plausible. But the guy I mean. Chris -- hasn't played forever he was nearly dead. I would think he's what you want to do anything he can't get on FL football field would be willing to take any job that anyone offers."

Play from 22:22[22:22]" And guys I couldn't -- Gelman you know what Brady said they've been contacted by a lot of guys maybe he's just doing a favor to the -- bring you know want to commendable talk. We're not going to promiscuity. In the way of a tryout. You know or anything like that that they indicated talked in and that it."

Play from 22:40[22:40]" I just think they still fancy themselves that they should be standard in the starting job -- those guys. -- and -- that we're talking about impact here yet I don't think there's any question that that Belichick is full. 100%. Confidence right now and match. The guy he's going to have to go out there and fail for an extended period time forty. Constantly making I agree with that not been -- being brought up for any better than Cassel has no position right now none of them and that would happen. I think when he. Second point about. You know at that point in my what is total call because if you if you go out and -- goes to. Noise topic guy. So anyway -- signing of Christians aren't Daunte Culpepper to evoke a caretaker for the -- the year and -- you're done anyway. And another aspect of this is not meant to be a shot back at all but. He never won a competition at a high level and -- built in one compete. Even in his own mind you because -- can say a hundred times Chris and here to beat your backup but. I'm like Matt Cassel 100% believes -- there'd be -- back up. It could cause him he lost out at Carson Palmer albeit close liner close all the things but he's. Maybe he beat Gutierrez but I don't -- sure there was ever competition. Media types McNamee and more to bring him. Right does that make the most and everybody I guess I -- know I -- know them you bring him. Now maybe they'll want to wait a little while for for you you've worn but -- want him around. Castle worries about looking over shoulder -- quarterly. And he's not an -- and not off him you know another one I you know held on the street. You know and another one of those situations where you know Patriots players were. You know waiting to get scooped up around the league yet at cup time in very few wouldn't it. -- When -- you lose movement at Anderson. On the phone is that Chris with the CIA and Chris you Dillon."

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