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[30:47] ..." into the conference call today with the opponents that was being the New York Jets Patriots playing at the Jets. This next Sunday afternoon game two of the 2008 regular season. We'll have Eric Mangini will have"...
[1:04:57] ..." even the Tennessee Titans got their share of votes may be the New York Jets. Got their share of votes as well. Wide open is what I think the thought process -- by the way did you"...
[1:22:25] ..." strength. Injuries over the league -- Jacksonville Jaguars. I've had you know Brad Meester out for weeks. -- senator Vince Amanda why I was on IR. It up put on our earlier this week starting guard"...
[1:23:58] ..." because of the Smith being placed on IR. 49ers have signed it Jamie Martin. Who will serve as the third string quarterback behind JT O'Sullivan and Shawn Hill and let strikes fear in the hearts of 49ers. Opponents everywhere but Jamie Martin. Was a pick up today by the 49ers and of course 49ers will be Patriots opponent coming up the open in weekend"...
[1:26:33] ..." I didn't want to dumb. Follow -- go on the whole -- Bernard Pollard story. You know. I know Vince Wilfork has been somewhat. Vocal at least in the locker -- some members of the Patriots"...
[1:28:30] ..." program today that Pollard in particular is going to I guess of Bernard Pollard fan club as had markets -- is Bernard Pollard. Our sport that tight ends on the brink today. Bernard Pollard. As a fan clubs Pittsburgh Steelers fans in particular were selling shirts. Hum. To do to basically celebrate Tom Brady going down I don't know if you've seen the website. Actually you -- you'd probably find it. But it's it's it's teacher this is Bernard Pollard and has Brady's number twelve. In the Patriots you know style Jersey. With the circle a red line through it as is Bernard Pollard fan club established September 7 2008. He says Bernard Carnell Carmel Pollard is an American football safety for the Kansas the Chiefs in the National Football League is that mr. got that from Wikipedia. Says on September 7 2008 Pollard was involved in a play that ended. With New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady being taken off the field with a knee injury and not returning for the rest of the game. It was that are reveal the pollard's hit number most likely is into the quarterback's season. Today and they've come up with the red. Bernard Pollard fan club T shirt. The site -- to do is believe merge. MER CH dot com so anyway that's always find it"...
[1:33:03] ..." back and get you all caught up with Eric Mangini of the New York Jets right here inside the play book."...
[1:38:51] ..." host -- Just heard. Yup he is the head coach of the New York Jets and so I'm sure -- then. I mean games can't coach -- a short hill."...
[0:00]" That was stolen guns no -- follow another golf and I want to go -- quiet. That they've won a pair of -- Patriots playbook got back got combat odd that they've -- here briefly what. Breaking down last Sunday's game the Superman coverage. When these -- really great yeah. Pray for the rest of the 2008. NFL. And some of the points separate between now feelings John. -- Patriots --"
[0:43]" On here in our 2008 season. Day number two I'm John -- my curriculum. Patriots football weekly had an up and around for the first out of the program today so make sure you keep emailed common. Web radio at Patriots dot com in the email addresses -- radio act. Patriots dot com now. Couple things business wise -- particular here at least -- Outset of the showed today Patriots of course did re signed quarterback Matt good here is we also signed punter Tom Malone to the practice squad. -- is Lucie originally signed by the Patriots as the rookie free agent out of Idaho State. Back in May of 7. He played in five games the Patriots as a rookie last year did complete one pass for fifteen yards was released as one of the final cuts this year. Well on August the thirtieth in the final round of cuts Mike let me ask you -- right off the top I think this -- the move that most. People expected the Patriots to make if they were going to make a move at quarterback -- you would all surprised that decided to go this direction none."
[1:47]" Really John because I don't eat any of the veterans that are out there right now being capable of coming in and making any sort of immediate impact. And I think right now you look at the guys were out there timber take Chris and rumors about -- and others -- John those guys don't know the and those guys don't have the background Cassel has been here four years. Played in all the pre season games took all the snaps at Tom Brady did not take. Including I'm on the practice field as well I think -- little bit more chemistry with -- with -- And the teammates that he has now they need to do bring in real tense up you bring in somebody else right now look at impact or enemy having passed the better quarterback -- all three -- those guys we talked about."
[2:25]" Yeah absolutely in just because of the fact that you know you're so well versed in. What is it I guess everything that the Patriots got going on locker room and in in the playbook and such it to me that certainly does make. One bit of support I was surprised. That the decision to go that route okay now as some other news -- felt -- that I wanted to touch on briefly because the Patriots obviously are not the only team. All of that has been be seized by a major injury. This early stage of the game kind of lead me into where it was going to -- start off the program today number one Shawne Merriman has decided the better of his I guess desire to continue to play with 2 torn ligaments in his and he. And Shawne Merriman is now going to put it up he's going to Shell of himself and have surgery and he will be gone from the San Diego Chargers defense for the rest of the year. Now Mike I would ask which loss is more crucial to which team Merriman to the Chargers. -- Brady of the Patriots."
[3:22]" Now Brady easily is no question about it in Brady is the heart and old team offensively he touches the ball on every that he -- entire show. Merriman a fine defensive player one of the best coaches in the team by. You have your offense intact and has idea any team leader and over as quarterback you have other defense players included in the one pass rusher at one end is not. Equal to losing your starting quarterback. I can't really any compare what's -- mean losing Brady this here is guys about their football probably one of the top five must -- top five. In the -- he's probably top fifteen. In terms of impact auto body FIRF started the -- is losing LaDainian Tom and -- it would be a bigger impact than losing environment as point."
[4:05]" Possibly. However I still think he's probably consider he's still going to be considered a top five or six I with the linebackers in the NFL when he is healthy. And I asked that only because they lost their game their ON one they were. Similar thought of as a as a potential Super Bowl contender along with the Patriots and obviously the other road contenders the Colts and such maybe in the of the jags. In the AFC east when you take a huge part of your deacons out like the Patriots have had a huge part of their offense removed. The Patriots feel like they're going to build up around Tom Brady I would think this to be somewhat effective offensively we spent. The last couple of -- talking about is how Matt Cassell all he has to do. It just remain efficient not hurt the team don't turn the ball over don't try to do anything. Spectacular just manage the situation whereas. The Chargers not having a playmaker defensively and a guy like Merriman to back him up do they have enough around him. To where this could end up being I think they're more."
[5:01]" Crucial loss well they put the charges of -- per game it was a fluke he played a loss on the last throw and go home in the fourth quarter with time -- now. And I don't think in even the Colts losing in week one and you wake up the next morning who's better -- now -- in charge -- you know with the -- have -- Manning they still after all their weapons the Chargers have their big weapons now losing -- obviously is pagan and I I do I don't want to overstate that and how how important that is. But Tom Brady is the league reigning league MVP. And as a player and into it and putting has yet he can manage the team to some degree but there are going to be times late in the fourth quarter where they may need him to winning game. And I don't know if he can do that yet we have never seen he's ever had via the dream you -- so until he does get it. We really have to reserve right judgment there but we do know Brady can win a lot of gains -- you know on the needle and Brady came in 2001. He was a game manager but he all of one -- down Jets he engineer the last drive in the available to get to him until going. And those other things that Matt Cassell might have to do. Because I expect the team now without great that the play a lot of lot you know I'm more closer than in the past that are going to be that many fifty to nothing games that -- there. If he's not the field engineer and big drives in the fourth quarter in the second half. -- on the jury's out right now and if you can if -- can actually you know that responsibility."
[6:20]" That's for. -- the other room. Injury wanted to touch briefly is of Vince Young for the Titans who is sprain in CL he's going to miss anywhere from two to four weeks. For Tennessee obviously he's had the whole mental -- have to deal with his mother. Was quoted in the Tennessee newspapers saying today that he's hurting inside and that. And I'm paraphrasing here but that he could use you know prayer from people and you have to wonder when a mom speaks out -- to have over child certainly. Most -- defend their children. To any degree but in this case. In the NFL you don't see this all that often so I wonder. If that has any special significance in lending any credence to the fact that maybe young is having some depression issues."
[7:05]" That's their real touchy subject I'm not sure what that going out there in Tennessee. And that's scary you kind of you know something you look at it this situation here -- in in his -- down monitor Patriot and it could be a whole lot more could you quarterback leaving the house and -- cell phone and people not knowing his whereabouts and all the talk about depression. Yeah I wish the best events that I really hope that that's nothing serious and you know goal for for the tight ends. That's big too because we don't know what his mental it is right now and I think a lot of people looked at Tennessee. You know one of the navy playoff contenders in the I'm not I'm out there and I think there's strong defense team and we -- in week one win on the early nineties and play. Without Vince Young for the better part of the season if he does not come back. -- knock them down a --"
[7:51]" Also wanted to mention that just coming out a short while ago that the Saints. Have lost receiver Marcus Colston going to miss 46 weeks of surgery to repair torn ligament. In his left thumb so this kind of leads me to some of the things that I was going to will lead off with a -- in injuries in particular. The fact is is that we've been talking especially in light. Mike over the fact the Patriots it's -- miserable pre season for obvious reasons they had a mission in mind and whether they accomplished not it will never really entirely now. Fact is though is that to watch it was a very good football. And it's still I think adds fuel the fire in terms of trying to shorten the current pre season situations setup that we have from the four games on the schedule. Several people have said now in light of the major injuries that we've had through the first week of the regular season there is no way. Noble say no now that the pre season can ever be shortened. You agree or disagree that."
[8:51]" I think -- shouldn't be short and but I don't think it's that reason because of injuries because that can happen. Regardless of how many pre season games you play I don't think. Tom Brady's injury had anything to do with the fact that in -- pre fluke occurrence but I dove -- no -- he tore -- he -- reportedly so. The has doesn't do it bring it hard for pre season games. He could have up -- team exact injury a lot of the injuries are not dependent on how much -- I played in the pre season or how little that -- in the my biggest -- and build -- checked talked about that at some point during camp. When asked about he says when he develop young players right how do you develop young players about pre season games you have enough time to get them up -- beat. You can simulate things in practice -- shouldn't try to but it not quite -- and I agreed with him on that point I think you have to have those games and those. Legitimate -- and something that lately resemble an NFL looking to get a -- have beaten a lot of the rookies come in now. Are expected to contribute right away and it's likely -- Jerod Mayo. What belt or pre season game where it may be right now week one week to Hewitt will be in pre season poll. And you don't really get the real Jerod Mayo -- week three week four. If you want to guy at his best right away he needs the time and if you take away pre season games -- and by that time."
[10:07]" Well here's what I think has always been to me the logical conclusion to try to solve this a problem if you will pre season football. I thought maybe you could shorten it to three games and add an extra regular season game obviously that would make an unbalanced schedule and some years you have nine home games of the usually have a and I understand that. That may still be -- mean the most viable way to go but Peter King from Sports Illustrated had an interest -- Scenario that actually may also be a little have some validity to it. The bottom line is though is that no matter what happens. We're still going to have twenty. -- where people will be invited in to watch because. Of the money factor. Owners are not going to give up the gravy train and that's what pre season is. People forget that players aren't paid their salaries into week one of the regular season the paid a stipend to get them through training camp. There for the margin of return for the ownership in the NFL is huge. There's no way they're giving that up they might get one game back. But they're not going to give them up mom. To the point where we -- the pre season like two games now Peter King has it was -- pre season games. And then to score images. With. Other teams in neutral sites when you don't sell tickets that will never have never had a for the money now after that that."
[11:31]" Overriding factor and everything -- money. And that's the big prompting you look vote in two. You know ticket prices are receiving team on top vote to -- Italy as well you know what we need the amount of money to put the cell line. -- we charged us to watch that apparently truthful my other it is either I think that is that justification for another -- of on the for the now. They'll have an used for something else on the road in terms of why they can't -- price as the white and sort in the pre season -- welcome back to money at some point. I don't really happening and into the U I don't know does a big difference between three pre season games and seventeen regular season. You know I've it would just forced to go to playing you do. It would force teams that I think to making it harder decisions sometimes in the younger players about one extra game but we saw this year I mean or pre season games. In the Patriots made a mockery of the pre season that they just did it was awful. And the fact that they sold full price tickets for those games what if that's. I mean you know. What else can I say it was terrible it was terrible watched well. It was Terrell -- how to play I don't know if they. I don't know anybody treated any differently than needed I think they came out and they ran their plays and -- him look good doing it. That that means the bottom line and -- a big part goes I haven't Tom Brady -- he had Matt Cassel and yet Matt Gutierrez had Kevin O'Connell taken snaps of four games. Your offense now look a little less spectacular but it I'm a fan in the John by at this point now you know don't come to the team. Don't pay the price because I don't do it I hate to tell people they home enough buy tickets I mean on -- and I mean how many a giant -- and putting -- pre season game I'm not going. I'm knock on the inability of political and I think at least for Patriots fans that I know. That they -- given up their pre season tickets to other people and I don't play -- games aren't on the watch and you know that we years ago. A member of the one year and I'm not sure exactly what season it was but it was the last pre season game and nobody played and people work pay off -- back. You know going to happen. I mean on the surprising to hear people emailed shows all time me the email this show plenty of times they interviewed on our email PFW in progress complaining about. Haven't paid the price decrease in you know let you know what you getting into. Mean c'mon you should know anyway but he should -- yet -- well."
[13:52]" The kind of leading into what I was going to do for question of the day here has to do with the not so much the pre season but with the injury situation because. Frankly that's why a lot of the pre season talk is coming up because of the injuries early on as I mentioned before -- maybe we should or should not in this case shorten the pre season. I don't know of anybody seen the loopholes on the sports nation page and espn.com but they're very interesting. And of course I'll send everybody off to see them but if you don't don't have to rush away from Patriots dot com pat because I'm get ready kind of goes through it for you. The one question. That really kind of intrigued me was will the Patriots make the playoffs. Now that Tom Brady is out for the season. 55%. Of the respondents. Of more than 51000. Total votes right now. 55%. Say the Patriots will not. Make the playoffs. That is the perception. That is out there right now about -- Brady list New England I'm a little surprised by Mike."
[14:54]" I'm surprised it actually downloaded you know -- I thought it would be more yeah I really do I think I thought a lot of people would. Has only ever hear over the course time -- the team is screwed breeding goes down now Brady's going down and there are 45% of the people in the -- That doesn't mean indicate -- it was overwhelming among. Now in New England fans but to fans nationwide I always thought -- an alarming premise that it Brady went down the team could not win. And now here well you know they can do this can do that and maybe not that bad I think when the reality hit you try to find -- justify. And maybe finally it's going to work in and I think it's going to work -- knock on our I'm saying people in no definitive about -- so many years. And maybe part of it was because of how good Brady has played. It was on me and I don't believe me if if if if Taylor and -- Well now they -- and all. I I really like nationwide in Buick 81 really do I go like 80% of the people ignited in -- Actually -- locally that might be more no votes that you yeah I I'm I'm a little bit. -- you surprised that I think that indicated they support the team. I'm a little surprised at the optimism -- a lot of people would be sort of jumping ship at this point in Dayton and it on dental. Because a lot of people John who's doing it every season they were ripping cap. People at -- it can't throw. Look at the this woman in the pre season game he's terrible they cut the wrong match. That was we heard a lot of they cut the wrong -- they must read the -- wrong did you cut Gutierrez he outplay Cassell and Ellis island. How the guy and everything's okay yeah I I."
[16:33]" He'll live a contradiction to need to -- which is also kind of odd because one of the of the questions on the sports nation pole. Is which quarterback would give the Patriots the best chance for success. Matt Cassel. Daunte Culpepper Joey Harrington -- today Joey Harrington Joey Harrington timber today and Chris Simms of course him out of the equation because he's just been signed. Like Tennessee right. So -- there who are the result laughable. Matt Cassel. Took 51% of the vote merit Culpepper was second at 32% manufacturing that they were five guys in the Paula 32% think -- Culpepper. -- the coming here. Andy has has have you watched the last couple years called make -- move anymore you know you have the ability and we're in real Tom Brady was one of the leaders in the NFL in absorbing hits in the backfield. Yeah -- that's been on that really has kind of gone under the table here. With three offensive -- making the Pro Bowl last year. But Tom Brady's taking as many hits. As just about any other quarterback in the NFL so if you have Culpepper back there he's dead meat I -- killed he can't move anymore John and he knows something and and -- or any months that and I think that was ten years ago. 1998. It's 2008. Yeah hey it's not name that is not -- the problem is that Culpepper isn't so absorbed. Way too many hits Friday that he. It is a reason why he was out there and nobody was picking him up. That's the reason why all these guys -- that John there's a reason why there on the count now Chris Simms -- of a job now. One Texas ex Texas quarterback backing up and -- at Tennessee. The question of the day. Has to do -- them. Perception. In the NFL in particular. In the AFC so this is why what brought to our E mailers today we always try to come up with a a question of the day to keep everybody somewhat that engaged. In the overall topic of conversation about the way by the EU and anybody -- you're all welcome to just you know basically fire off whatever on your mind about the team about the National Football League. Whatever is up there even if it's not what we -- discussing that's the way this thing rolls it's sort of then you know open forum type situation. But I always try to put it one sort of a focal point to the day at least the opening of the conversation. For every showed during the course of the week. Now if not the Patriots. If not the Patriots. Which team. Would you considered the favorite. In the AFC I know many Patriots fans still think Ottawa were out of it. And we discussed that yesterday and that many mailers came through yesterday and fought very much that you know upon further reflection maybe I mean a little bit hasty about this. Well the exportation poll also had that question on top and I'll hold off giving that result. For the moment but right at about 50000. Respondents again nationwide. To this question which team is now the favorite in the AFC. Without Tom Brady as quarterback the Patriots. I would ask you yet in this what I want to ask Harry Miller's web radio at Patriots dot com. Which team do you considered to be if not the Patriots which team do you consider to be the favorite in the AFC what they might."
[19:44]" Well at the beginning of the season or are pretty going down and I picked any charges the commodity at the secret that. I believe that the most balanced team offensively. I like Philip Rivers that a lot of back filter is after his performance last in the heat and no game playing practically and one -- Luckily pretty darn well too and it has some pretty gaudy performed that entire post season. And I like the defense I know Merriman not there but that's it. It seems like ninety pro bowlers in and out at me nine minus one guy. And I and and a lot focuses on what he can do what they have some really good pass on the team. And I just like the look like the schedule they have it's it has -- difficult gains but. I think -- seventies for them. Not even eagle was the first game I'm not off the bandwagon yet an -- on the bandwagon I'm paying that pick. You know they do all kind of a fluke game nine times out of ten I would win that game by two touchdowns and a lot of that -- yet he has and bad breaks go their way and and didn't give Carolina credit. Until home playing his first game in and come back to. I would go to San Diego -- a lot of people like Indianapolis I think Indianapolis maybe are -- a little back and regulate. Their window is articles a little bit. And we'll see how Manning -- or bonds in the off season in the lack of activity and shake that are often when he does the right now Riley."
[21:06]" well that's the question I'm asking everybody if not the Patriots in which team in your mind is the favorite should be. The favorite in the AFC. Web radio at Patriots dot com that's our question of the day today here and -- Patriots playbook. And I'll give you what the sports nation poll has to say come -- a -- but we're two of the questions as part of a -- That. I also -- pretty interesting and I wanted to share with you know one it's as how many more Super Bowl titles will Tom Brady win. And to their about 33000 respondents in this one. But the majority 43%. Said it zero."
[21:45]" Zero. Hard questions John I mean I don't know how many more years and play. Her well -- there -- many annuity or how well how old is -- thirty what."
[21:56]" 31 a year about yeah right around there okay. You gotta figure that if he comes back relatively healthy and certainly I think he's going to come back with a as some sort of bigger from the season having basically not want to sit out the entire year yet. I think he's got at least one left in him somewhere somehow he's going to played at 35 or 36 years old you would like to think. Barring any further injury. So I would think one and that was the next number 34% at one. The other question is which player would be the biggest loss for his league. If he were to sustain. A season ending injury. Football is represented by Tom Brady. The NHL was represented by Sidney Crosby and LeBron James. Represent the NBA. Alex Rodriguez was in different Major League Baseball. And they also have won more football player in their because I think. If they lost him it would be enormous and that's Peyton Manning and yeah well you know -- Klecko -- I thought it was a sort of a good."
[23:05]" Thought provoking question. I think that that the question about who lost at the league right I think I would go -- Crosby because NHL is follower off the Italy. Yeah we need Crosby really revitalizing the ball and he's going now being chosen. Oh that is true but a lot of naysayers Mike would say nobody cares its hockey. Well -- that but that that attitude and him as an even try media that they aren't trying hard to market him and I think they have done and and fans back in. You eliminated casual gamble -- a -- a Penguins game -- and me. On Saturday afternoon that it -- not there now nobody watches the lately you know what. The NFL is is pretty big conglomerate right now you lose one title -- No no disrespect Tom Brady but people are treated like. You know Roger Goodell died you know I mean the back as a -- I believe it was going to do for the league the league and I don't want. The thing I keep playing games next week and there are going to go well that play on Sunday -- act I built their ankles not hurt in group hopeless either not the not reaching out to have to. Troy in casualty of the India has all -- They've got it. The NBA in the NHL. Not much and the NHL parlor in the NBA the NBA's make it and I come back and LeBron and guys that helped. I think LeBron to be an outlets I think they won a twelve to one of the most well right now Annika viable player. You want to note of the poll says. I'm Providence aids advocates they'll run."
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