Patriots Playbook - 9/11/2008

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[1:41:55] ..." Which is Adam. Just now out well for the Patriots and today. Sam Aiken and Benjamin Watson did not participate in practice with their respective knee injuries. Well limited participation from -- Eric Alexander Jabar Gaffney."...

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[0:37]" Now. We're rolling along for week one on in our 2008. NFL season with Patriots playbook John -- joined today by. Kurt Pellegrino PFW your emails welcomed -- What radio at Patriots dot -- through email -- it always is it never changes telephone as well -- point 5437482. Of them. Again five or 8543. Out of 482. Are typically on Thursday show we like to have. We begin to bring you just a little bit more or what is actually going to transpire for what. Youth thing."

[1:10]" What you think will transpire on the football field on on 2 that end if you got predictions already rated role. For Friday's or for a Sunday's encounter. Let's here and off -- clinical yanking it open -- and it -- it did the injury you. It. It was actually the good part let's not actually -- the good DOG Angolan. The voice of god -- yeah so scared the dog after the -- AM -- an argument every -- anyway. It's that all of them like a bad after that was over is because -- guard and exactly so I just I had these dumb. Or throw things at -- catch from the kids and Memphis into cool actually feel great sounds and never had it during. A home game when you have the talent and you had the voice of god during we have. It's happened it's unfortunate but I feel like you know them that the deeper tonal quality that I have actually when I'm sick -- can't have an oil well that was and -- be what I'm normally again which works. I'm but you know I heard on the radio today and -- a couple of them and the rated it a couple articles on here Eric I know the you don't guys on PFW. Certainly a dimension -- showed it would. Fact is that the rumors and I'm actually I'm headed to Tampa tomorrow for cultural and doing go to Kansas US of and storm beat the Tampa papers harmless things -- thinking you know these guys get -- did Jeff Garcia. They get ready to maybe cutting and cutting completely cutting completely because going to rally the thing's -- That book because French. C'mon he's Chris is that what that I just didn't feel recruit our -- Diego decision making. You know nicely and it like. That Ian John gruden are not getting along. Just their -- well. And we've already know the brain agrees going to start at quarterback yeah this weekend -- I don't know if they have they have a rookie right behind them. Josh Johnson. That would notice I have no idea I looked at Tampa bay with their third quarterback and if he goes up they cut him. Like we all do we not him we played him in the exhibition we knew we did but at them at that point he but there was little they play it. Yesterday he did yeah oh yeah much I remember that game I mentally clicked again malt in the second quarter. Anyway practice is that it reading through the off. Hum looks like they're there will it take just about anything foreign effectively don't get any offers are going to cut it -- Because team -- are at odds so the question to you is would you. Jeff Garcia -- I yeah I think you would I think I think they have an active I think you have to give it our little consideration depends what the -- would want in return you're saying what I'm if they cut it 1 I think a no brainer if they just cut him. Yeah -- they have to give up something -- it would depend on what they're asking well should he get a conditional pick coming up like a probably. You'll get him for a fourth or fifth round choice and you know that might improve you know round of actually playing I don't know six. In home. Ten games whatever who knows yeah I'm not saying. To get him and automatically -- minute starter either on things bring him in let him in the off and give Cassel his chance right. But in the event that something happens -- goes down. Do you want to go right to rival as a rookie or do you want to go to veteran who at least this is the perfect scenario or because you're exactly right you give you still. -- behind Matt Cassel beat you still give him. This is your dislike this at this week and why they Beatles and Matt Gutierrez back again because they thought he was the best option as a third quarterback. He'll go hit Jeffers are with thought about this. In a backup lance Percival but it's just gotten older place to go right now I mean he gets cut by temple where's -- gonna go maybe three. Maybe. What was that okay the -- wrecking early yet thank you like tonight. -- The I -- an answer yet. He loves quarterback but it he'd like to date like canaries. On the order here -- choking to death and and tell somebody pulled my grip -- it and it's my job. I'll. -- you know what I'm scared about ridiculous find stuff. Wasn't -- defined now from July 28 okay. He's got a grip on the job -- Not more fairly if not a big grip is Alou and what. I I think it makes too much not to do. I mean I think -- you can still bring -- in -- your starter -- you know -- long thought about having a veteran back up into something does happen and you can't get -- or he does not perform up to their standards boom there you -- you give -- time -- he's a veteran -- how -- it's -- you know it's -- bring -- end -- him for -- who -- younger quarterback. You know -- has been around the block you've probably -- 1520 -- as -- what would -- not only that but he had more success and a guy -- a power -- norm -- you -- approval absolutely -- which is why I liked it. I like I think the Patriots if they're able to get him for nothing they have they find him."

[6:43]" There's there's another school butler -- proactive. All of -- Luke McCown wasn't so that they would be secure an avid it would have three quarter of three in -- employ nearly in rookies that haven't established guys. And they have a guy sort of right exactly. I had nothing wrong I mean I think it makes way too much the other school of thought in my -- there's. We've seen flashes from -- yeah we've seen what he can do in college we've seen him sparingly in the pre season but he's built up a little bit of hype about himself. With his place so far. If something were to happen to capsule. This week next week whenever whether Garcia's here and what it. Boo -- the team because he's they picked him in the third operate he's going to be the writer at some point -- think you'll right so is it is it worth it getting him in there in his rookie year. To get even. If not a start but maybe some playing time. In these gains well."

[7:40]" It's really depends how much value the games in the season and Eric they lose you know to a three games -- and you know there. I don't know that was an area like that to be honest I don't -- the Patriots will ever considering the division that the rent. They're going to do it themselves out of it until the day that they eliminated which could be what the last week of the season."

[7:59]" I'm not even saying that but -- being out of it I'm saying what they canceled. Plays like he has. Recently and they awarded team for 852. Yards maybe a -- RI maybe two maybe a pick here at right. He'd be winning. By a field goal or touchdown but he's not setting the world on fire okay. They build up a little bit of a lead. In the division let's say did they say hey you know what we need a spark we need something more than nets. Why don't we give the kid a -- well first of all if you can't if they think you can't go anywhere and -- right well to begin with I think that if we're able to get the Patriots are able to get that out of Matt Cassel. You know let's have -- performance and that's exactly what the team is they're asking of him this week that -- not an innocent we just wanted to make mistakes we want to. Guide the team we want him to just via the yourself manager -- Brady yeah you have to be a flashy you know we get down -- kind of guy alias who's been --"

[8:53]" Because we've got piece of the puzzle around him. If he's able to do that I don't how I don't see even more on that -- O'Connell and there just because castles and exactly what they had to do. The -- that I O'Connell getting in the season. If a personable again in noted. And be canceled -- that that that always gets -- rookie year. Keep in mind now that the Patriots it would take rookies to a more open that the mountain if they keep them at all. And you mean how long's it taken -- has -- given his opportunity for -- it happened because of injury. So I'm thinking that you know they're thinking well -- like -- Michael Connell. We like you don't ability we think he can do some things here but he needs seasoning it's going to be a couple of years they actually give him a chance which is why again. Based on track record. Bought out and getting Jeff Garcia makes perfect it take all the pressure off O'Connell. He can still continue to do much circulate that he builders the word that -- if you. You'll. But you can much regulate you can learn you can you've got a growth curve there that you could they with. You don't have to have that. You know. You can rely on the veteran guy if you have to and Gallagher he would usually going to be around a rental quarterback for the rest of the anyway. It just it. And I I agree with the team I think if he's Klecko I think they should try to. Or turned purposes well that's the first course I want to ask about it today web radio at -- on this and he has -- time on this -- that I actually was I have you web reports -- I was not a practice that you were ours and we debated -- mention I didn't think. Which is why we're glad to have your third Austin thank you thank you very much appreciate that. Arm because. It's it's you know rare we're in here. Doing the show what I. -- like well why rely on you know you guys in particular are what happened ranked today which is one of the reasons why we added two for the show this year it also helps that sort of bounce things off of -- thank him. The you know that's the first question I want to. -- Jeff guard is available if the Buccaneers make him available that is I eat caught him out right. Or make it available for a very low draft pick to the Patriots go in get. Web radio. Patriots dot com that's question number one -- all right for everybody was listening number two. You -- predict the game went on I'm because traditionally our patrons playbook on Thursdays we predict the core of the game. And get into our thoughts -- on the game a little bit but I gotta admit as the -- progressed. Tuesday in the aftermath of everything that happened with Tom Brady I said -- of the program. -- the -- to go to one of the most in the first three things for. The bye week at the the most likely loss was this week as opposed to next week with. Right I have to answer. Done a 180 degree turn on the you know in talking to market is -- we did yesterday from the New York Post in reading things out of New York in listening to the national media in seeing some of the I don't want to do Bagwell look at the lowering of expectations. For the football team because of one player's. Absence. I will be surprised -- the Patriots don't."

[12:11]" I a agree with you and I think whether or not they had -- respect and I think they were going to win this game anyway. -- got your -- was it it would it would probably. Go to one in this game that they would that that was my that was my initial thinking first thing what we sign -- on Tuesday I tell you what I. During the offseason when the whole Favre soap opera was going on I was a big proponent from the beginning when he first retired that you know he's not going to retire he's going to come back -- whether it's with green -- the materials. The problem is. I want them to go away because I didn't think it was that good. I think the last five years he has shown that he's he's lost the debt last year was a fluke. And the fact that he had a decent year made him think I'm good enough they'll play I should come back and play for someone. And when -- with the Jets at one making all they're getting the far from ten years ago who was good it was going to the Super Bowl meetings in the playoffs so I'm. I don't think they -- it that much better with him then they would have been with Pennington to be on with these so I looked at this game as. I felt confident that the Patriots when going in when this game regardless of what. With mark coming so that's how I looked at it going in and the Brady injury happened last week -- as if you know what it -- will be more exciting now. Because I think -- Brady had played them I really don't think it would close this might make little bit closer. But I opened the Patriots generally win this game and and what you're saying it's true the the lack of respect factor coming out around the country. That'll only -- that's you know with the team knows when they feel like they're not being respected they took every."

[13:44]" Alright and that -- that's why furcal stronger the way that I have this week here is because. We've seen it happen. In the Belichick era is actually but with the veterans they have on the global team which time and time again. And I went into great detail yesterday and even on Tuesday talk about how this team loves. To manufacture that chip on the shoulder or becomes a bolder on the shoulder they did it last you would spy gate. It that it last couple years because of this respect in this is a perfect opportunity to shut up yet again. For them. Us against the world yeah nobody thinks you're worth a crap because. Well one players that you know we've got a team full pro bowlers if you go by what last year one right right so it to me it plays right into the psychology I -- Bill Belichick has to be the game has to be -- that they lost Tom Brady no doubt but at the same time. I of that locker smile a little bit bigger and others say hey I got just what in the like fuel for the fire we know we have a good football team here."

[14:40]" Well I've brought this up in the last hour of the PFW show when I went out to practice I know it's only been. To practice this week yeah with -- I know it's only going into week two. They are one and now things are good right now but. I have not seen a change in the demeanor of any of the players on the team if you write this as usual it has been I mean. They're you know speaking with -- in the locker room the last few days there all things what you just that -- we're sorry Tom's not here were sorry week we hope he gets better -- But we got a game to play there we're going to have but 415 this Sunday wouldn't no matter what we still left the play we still feel like we're a good team Ty Warren that after the game. And there aren't many one man team in the NFL you find one you show. That you know we we still that where more than just one man on the -- so I think. They're going into it with as casual and attitude as they normally Adam on any casual -- that they don't care but like they're not. They're not down on themselves -- not wallowing in self pity they're going about it as if nothing really happened and I think that's the right approach to take his Metcalf and Matt -- more confidence as well Tuesday he feels like everyone on the team back so I -- him."

[15:47]" Portis at this morning on on ESPN radio listening. And a mark Lara who look -- actually I believe most the time respect because I think he's at Purdue football billion former lineman for the Denver Broncos. -- part of that out Redskins are hosting of the Redskins right and down. He. A lot of people don't like what do you -- simply because they feel like you -- I'll call. I think that you've -- makers and the usual -- and time is that we have what that's exactly right in and for a guy who does have. Football knowledge what he does he -- on this one that really had to me is going to like I don't think you know we talk. When it does he said that on him. We value the quarterback. In this league so much. Which I don't doubt we do value the quarterback but he's at because of Brady going down for the Patriots this. Not only do not think that the Patriots for the -- not ever in the AFC with -- the favorite I don't division. -- while. I think. You know there are some people who are we're trying to make that argument now because they. This is -- is this is going to be a classic season -- for all the people who always said is it Brady or Isabella. The winds the winds that this team has gotten the argument has always been who -- with the team do with or without one of those guys. Or taken taken -- there's no proof that he believed that -- I."

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[17:23]" That's what I have and I -- coughing fit and I experts on what the ones who golf. Go. Well for the revolutionary pity you we -- out and take shots Broncos and boys all for the bodes well for the fans and the revolution at all or automatic -- on the Phyllis I think this I think this whole. This will it. -- he just -- to assuming somebody goers. Accurate within -- are all okay. Well I mean you you to be up with laughter on the island he's -- revolution sure Benoit and what is it -- brewers were -- report I think. This plays into the hole. Argument is that Brady yours pellets. You know -- this team win without Brady or could they win without Belichick now we're going to know the season we're gonna find out if they do without one of them and that -- Brady. So. A wreck when we were taught our program the other -- or was. The Patriots being a woman team right march worth mention that he doesn't he thinks the Jets now are the favorite in the -- right because it's a one man team like that this will play its in his argument because as the season goes on. If the Patriots don't win. Then he then he can say it's a one man team nickname for him you know it wasn't ballots technique can't win without Brady. If they do start winning if they go ninth seventh and sick when the division make the playoffs and people can -- well. At argument could be made it it was ballots and operating you can win with the system and it's going to. So. We're going to have to see if if -- knows we're talking about not but I think he's just one as he falls -- that argument what else think that sometimes those guys and it happened the first hand because I've been guilty of myself from time to time sometime Jamaican --"

[19:09]" Just for the sake of argument he may not necessarily believe it but -- up to you to sell. You can create the debate on the air I don't know that he really believes it is true that -- a lot of people consider this to be you know quarterback's league but. I mean what team out there right now on the NFL. Really may be other than the Patriots allow the picture might be one of those teams. What the team the NFL will fall completely apart if they lost their quarterback Indianapolis Colts. You think that the Colts would find it well I think they'd be in the same situation new englanders that. I would have no -- orgy that team which you. I they have more I mean if you look at -- paper why would you not have more faith or fewer than Cassel but I don't think it's about the thing I would think that the Colts will be fine. Certainly cable Lee's been there forever he knows the system he's capable played way more than a guy like. I mean does he have the same you know Peyton Manning quality nobody does a -- Peyton Manning. But you know could the -- still win sure I think you're exactly right I think the Colts would be in the same shape as the Patriot they go Mateen probably thirteen and three -- You know I'd that they probably -- would be realistic but in time and he'll put them in the playoff spot. They don't go for being a playoff contender to a non playoff team with the absence of one player the team is built up around them too much it would make that it would make the -- out a lot more compelling that would be helluva division one it. Well I think Israel I think utterly without Manning well you know the argument about it -- made about the being quarterback league. It's kind of ironic that he is that because there -- so you star quarterback I couldn't name ten great quarterbacks in the public -- in 83. Three maybe four Brady Manning Romo has the beacons that are up yet horrible that is because what he's again what he's got built up around him and that yes. Can you think of quarterback and out the doesn't have a lot of random. Not really know. Now the only one I'll tell you what the only one that comes to mind. With the Donovan McNabb and yet we don't really know yet what Philadelphia has around them all well we -- we quietly went through it pretty good. Yeah but I mean I don't know that they have the star power that the Cowboys do. -- the Colts the Patriots. I'm and that's the only wanted to -- even that that stretch. I mean -- well. Yeah I mean. Its heart the -- you can which what it doesn't it. -- his argument that it quarterback certainly guys what is point then you rely offensive line a quarterback for teams relied. On a quarterback because. You know on offense can look dramatically different quarterback Donovan are examining great quarterback knowledge you can say that about any league I mean it -- college football quarterback driven college game is because the quarter the offense go I mean -- that was sort of -- thing. For a guy with -- has experience and expertise. I just didn't body and I think what do what he was trying to make an argument for injecting him enthusiasm into -- perceived now battle. For bragging right the AFC. You know the Patriots don't need Tom Brady to go down for the -- to be competitive -- a close game the Jets last year when the picture of what sixteen and well. You know it's going to be close game anyway do I think the -- to blow them out no way. No I don't but I think the Patriots have enough to get over the hump if all things are equal and by that I mean if they don't you know turn the ball over in the red zone. You know or they don't draw you know pick six or something like that if they don't give the points to the jet. -- injury equal yet they should win the game."

[22:42]" Not I really I want to go back -- he said earlier about the team rallying around this you know last year it was. The incident with the Jets right after the Jets game that everyone's sort of rallied around that on this team. -- this team really does well when it has a rallying point and I think they have their rallying point you're right -- With with with Cassell coming in now and people taking it started after the game this Sunday in the locker room when when the players were talking with the media. Some of them are saying you know hey you know that casually played pretty well they forgot all you guys want to cut right. You know those are the type of comments we're getting from players like they were on the thing you know -- tickets us. Us being the media enough maybe you know personally but as a as a group the media took a lot of shots a castle. This summer and sometimes unjustly so. And and he stood up and defend himself -- Brady stood up Independent counsel for. But I think this team is. Going to surprise people. Not just this week I think throughout."

[23:41]" He's you know I'm I'm I'm tempted to kind of go along with the I don't want to jump overboard here because they will need to realize that you have to kind of contain your enthusiasm -- one and kind of tough to beat terribly enthusiast about the team in light of what happened but. On the same time I just I at least initially. And I made this analogy yesterday you know I had friends of mine writing in from out of state and -- you know while tough time -- over the Patriots target. Seasons over one weekend and all the Mike. You talk about. If -- actually knew what you're talking about that there's no way that you beat them but the pervading feeling is that they're done stick a fork in -- we want at a -- or seventeen now and it's over. And and I just I'm Mike you know that's going to feed him play right into what these guys are masterminds."

[24:24]" Do well when he says that yesterday and the -- we were sort of talking about and reaction and and their their mood about it now we've been getting a lot of emails from Lamar. Our audience for the newspapers saying. And I was little surprise that this that date they weren't necessarily saying that the guys falling. That they were looking at it sort of -- you know in 1 when. What's that went down we kind of said hey the season's over and -- can win another game who's the Brady kid. And it wasn't necessarily as good a team. Then as they have around. Castle today. Better defense. It's certainly better better wide receivers better running game offensive line is a lot better -- if there's a perfect scenario for quarterback come in and fill in. This is a pretty good going to be. He's going to supporting cast from neck and how open and doesn't feel like he has to be the entire team I totally agree with -- I think -- From from the response we're getting from our our our readers are PFW readers. A lot of them aren't as. Ready to jump off the cliff as maybe some other people --"

[25:28]" Well that's encouraging them maybe that's because these people you know your W readers listeners to these pro programs here on Patriots dot com radio -- the diehard fans all over the be tuning in right do you think that most of them. That rule majority of them would. You know anybody who wants three veteran has -- they believe that's right they absolutely do. All John -- and -- from a or illiterate moral the other. John -- and Eric Ellen you know from PFW here -- and the play book on Thursday in about ten minute Russell Baxter the ESPN -- Richards show up. Analyst or. In a research analyst for ESP and will join the program as he's done the last several years on Thursday's do. Not only look at the Patriots upcoming game and take a look at a at the games around the NFL for the weekend you'll have -- coming up. From Bristol Connecticut in the worldwide leader's headquarters -- in about ten minutes in the meantime web radio. Patriots dot com that's email address or look at for two things number one. Number one if Jeff guard is available. And there are media reports out of -- that he may be maybe as soon as. Tomorrow. That the the Bucs made I'd just cut him if they don't try to trade him first. But if he becomes available -- deal or do you just pick him up if he is on the way of reward you pick him up if -- the Patriots -- number one number two. What the score for Sunday. Web radio at Patriots dot com are scored not in the court. Our -- but it a couple of emails from earlier we didn't get to a -- but campuses. Guises of all of this is happening -- reminds in the quote from Oliver -- our greatest glory is not. In never falling. But in rising after every ball. Like that. Now its -- and approve what mr. bill kept him around for a long and cutting. I think they built a team and I think that they will pulled together through this improved that they are not overrated not a bunch of people who can't win without cheating and not a team that just depends on one player. Only embraced the eight Italy right. So -- Maybe that is maybe that more than mainstream this happened to -- you know I had predicted in last -- season preview PFW fourteen and two season. I see him doing and I think that's way too much to expect to see them winning ten maybe eleven games -- in the division during the playoffs. I think it's I think it's a -- or eleven of the number -- what -- I think. Either and followers as his report on pro football talk -- the world -- as well initially. That the Bucs want to get rid of Garcia and or rally around castle right now -- he has led his last two teams in the playoffs past two years would you give up a fourth round pick. To improve your chances of winning. I'd -- an -- the fourth round pick I'd I'd rather do a conditional panic button. I think while or not I'm sure I'm willing to go or I mean I'll be honest. Okay what -- values fourth round pick anyway. Conditional pick I would yet. All pick him up the waiver wire absolutely no brainer a slam dunk what else can you lose right yeah. A fourth round pick a sizable fourth round pick. I would hesitate. I probably they'll pull the trigger Eric but I would at least -- a second date which is why you know they were third or second now I know I'm not so I wouldn't do it now but a second pick. Even a fourth round yeah I mean. This year's fourth rounder Jonathan Wilhite. Made the team I think he was a ticket to that was -- matter -- The attrition through at that position. Helped him win that spot I don't know he would've won that if one or two guys were here here's a guy though that you'd think would be sufficiently motivated to show the -- with him. He's a veteran yeah right. He's one before he wants to win again and he knows he's nearing the end of his career he's got an opportunity here to win a ring on his way out the -- the right at a -- it makes sense for him I mean in the unbelievable. And I -- on his agent now make Al Pena or cut me -- when he cut. -- This from guys up from Dana in Brighton England why don't all quarterbacks were a knee brace on the plant leg all the QB in the interest -- to be. The plant leg as -- step up pocketed happen to Brady car and many others. It happened -- sick of the throw the ball somewhat to my left -- out is that I've been wearing the -- protection. Racism ruin any of your mechanic mobility seems to be the quality in which can be prevented. You know a little time this and yesterday as well -- I largely believed that the majority of quarterbacks don't wear it as a precaution because they you'll like it hinders their mobility even if it doesn't -- Eric pointing to his his dome. Today it is between the -- Is all the technological is psychological thing they have this. Brace on their Billy and encumbered right they don't need exactly. I think they're going to have to get over because frankly I'm not sure how much put -- they would have -- they've -- maybe. -- turned it from a -- to a brain maybe. You don't really know. You just don't really nailed it would have helped him at all I mean who know. -- when I'm in this case I think you're just. Effort that do you know the fact is football a sport. -- that John and yet it was break him again you know if it's something that. Stuff happens and now it just like the other thing we've got to realize."

[30:58]" Going to bring up very white he would rather than -- for and a."

[31:04]" You know we we've we have gotten a little spoilt here -- guard Gary. The longevity that Brady has had. At his position and he's taken. Over the years -- I'm I'm surprised this hasn't happened to be honest with he's taken some monster hit. And gotten up off the hands and I how -- getting up from -- took I believe last last year even with three Pro Bowl -- I think the count was read this. -- where -- this doesn't like to go back to it in print it out for referral. But I believe that Brady took eighty some -- hit. Last year which was."

[31:37]" Wound."

[31:38]" And hit is considered anytime a at a -- slayer touches the court gives an answer to be violent and no it hit. But with three Pro Bowl lineman Brady took over eighty hit last year the fact is that -- still standing after those hits album -- of the viola variety yeah and he bounced back up a miracle deride it has happened -- and -- other when a -- this weekend Favre. Who holds the record for consecutive starts. In the NFL and that's a miracle itself through and especially the way far place. You know he's not a guy that'll just. And the -- I mean he will -- pocketed the ask him but he's been reckless with his body over the years and it's a miracle that he comes back week after week same thing with Peyton Manning. You know he had that he just barely made playing that game last week he missile pre season. We get a little spoiled because so many quarterbacks get injured all the time. And we had success operated. I wonder you know people taken into consideration when. Chris in Raleigh, North Carolina -- we've been over -- many shortcomings are curious what do you think is positive start to me. It was a big he is working in a favorite consistent situation he's been in. More first -- thrust into bad situations and and a lot in the learning multiple playbook rather than how to play quarterback in the NFL. Cassell has had the same system consistent coaching and quality personnel around him as the backup. I think the player coach and players -- is overrated he has to have picked up -- by being around the best in the game. Well yeah that true as far as physical positive we talk a little bit about the on the last show I think his. Ability the ability to scramble. When necessary not just an accident but when when the pocket actually breaks down and he needs to run for like he did a little bit the other day against Kansas City. I think he has that -- bit of financial were very. And that's -- he's he's he's a lot more like I would agree with me he's more athletic and more mobile radio I'm little I'm certainly not prepared disease he."

[33:34]" You know better passer even comparable passer. Like that but it in that particular case I think his athleticism -- now. I mean we hope he doesn't have to scramble to gain yards that means the pocket broke down means he's -- for his life. But if you want to look for positive. On the physical side that's were that's I would. Onlookers as I think we're an eight -- team now but I'm eager to see a -- Phillips. Well or what Chris thought the team was -- or review -- You know. Yeah. I guess I I want to give them more credit and you know like this is not this is -- a one man team and I know people work. Even a couple of weeks ago -- cut Cassell and have Gutierrez it is the the the back right I was one of the well you know and I -- good years of the back up -- that they are of that O'Connell over the right. And but but. But Gutierrez would be an estimate as Ortiz to and I did -- we we can't predict that on PFW as well we had a vote on it and it was it was close the period through but we and the thing. Gutierrez but -- win that battle but. You know. Obviously they see something in -- that. That very few other people did so you have to give them you have to give him the benefit of the doubt gives you guys have been at the that already did last week the other thing I'm Richardson with -- is we've only ever seen him for the most part. Either in pre season. With the -- Or sometimes ones yeah but in pre season it's hard to gauge how how are the ones are playing right. The guys who know they're going to be ones not the guys were right to be one right. And we've seen him a little bit in spot duty you know Lester against the Redskins his rookie year against Miami January came in mop up duty. He played well in the Miami game he almost led them through to a victory come from behind victory in the you know he he added and in it was a terrible Washington's last year but I'm interested in seeing Cassell. In a game that matters with the ones for the entire game. We've never seen that extra. We're going to see that and it Sunday and you know the -- almost beat out Matt Leinart and US it was close it was neck and neck for that job. Liner won the job and ended up becoming Heisman trophy winner but he was good enough to go neck and neck with -- until the last. Minute and Carroll had a goal line. Of the kid has talent they can complain he also played behind Carson Palmer with you know that's been talked about. You know enough times so the kid can do it I want to even do it with the players. That Brady had. And -- when -- at the benefit of the doubt I think. He deserves. All right well Walter from Boston as. Speaking of giving better than utters is -- those three picks and get actors O'Connell go in the game. Well that's the other thing too if now that we have a Bora if if -- not playing well but the team still thinks the coach is they'll think that the team has a chance to compete. That could be an area where we the O'Connell if they say you know what the rookie gives us a better chance to win. -- thing is always we're going to do what's best football team that is mr. So if he feels at some point if -- not playing well and they don't have Garcia. And oil all they have right now has pretty -- is on the practice squad is on the active rosters so as of right now they only have two quarterbacks going in this week. And if -- not playing well and they feel like the rookie gives him a better chance I wouldn't be surprised."

[36:53]" Alex from New Jersey what do you think about Garcia coming over the pats have the -- cut him loose. It would be a great addition have of that behind Cassell Cassell was bruise as expected. Let's go Garcia after the bye well we've talked a little -- Alex. I don't know that -- go over after the bye but again Eric and I both. Like if you're able to get him for nothing or next -- I think you should take out -- as well you know if there's -- you're still trying to try to -- which -- absolutely still feel like you have all the piece of the puzzle place maybe now with the exception of quarterback allow that but the same time though you know if by chance. You -- couple short with what secretly have a quarterback why wouldn't you do something. To potentially strengthened -- certain academic -- And look as we last year a team that barely made the playoffs. And up winning the Super Bowl right. All you need to do -- get through the playoffs anything else can happen and I asked looking in get this team to the two playoff. It's anybody's game no matter -- in them if -- that's why and that's why you always hear the guys. You know the coaches they had an -- an idea right will be the week we treat each week as it's Armageddon you know during the course of you know sixteen weeks of actually playing games but it is true it's one game at a time you do with -- wanted to time in the whole goal here is to get into the post season. And that's what they in the locker room it's with coach it's what people who know try to repeat yet nobody want a list of but that is exactly. You get into the post season then. Everybody's a little it where one may the best team -- Yeah and they have is going to shut it sure they'll and I would think I would think oh. I am from -- as. Patriots 24 Jets want to want to small -- a couple of TDs. -- LaMont Jordan it to your former team and he's more he's going to go hundred yards -- are going to throw it."

[38:44]" I can package that we are the report makes it that way. That's -- that's on the came on fourth down. In Miami Jets games. They couldn't go for the field goal in obvious you'll territory as Mike Nugent Kasper -- something he couldn't care to important fourth on the pocket broke down on party are scrambling around. He was going to get hit in the face heat up the ball. And he just happen heated in the right right spot there right theory between it was a long it was what it well but I mean that kind of thing. He does all the all the time he was lucky to get it. Completed a -- because the Dolphins I don't need to throw those you know wounded in the -- going to be up to the nature take advantage of pressure they don't. Blow the opportunity right and that's the thing a lot of players are talking about this week -- Q you trying to do contain far. Is not. Resist the temptation to go after him when he -- pocket and things are breaking down the -- covered. With your assignment. And Orvella the quarterback. How many of you worry about the he -- back on the back in your lane Xavier I'd -- you know do everything you're -- have yet I can understand that but if your lane eight years I mean you're -- more -- in the long called Favre than not. Our mobility in pars -- you know the pocket is scary at times the other the other matchup on. And on. The -- Lotta money. In the offseason to build up there. Were Patriot Damon being witty play of the tackle. And -- guard down panic from Pittsburgh at the money back traded. And the Patriots -- on -- and particularly. On Corey. Seymour talked all about oh yeah the last three years he's been playing on one leg basically. Here he's ready. That ultimately play a couple years ago. I want to meet the Patriots line against the Jets offense that line one and -- far they all day. I want to -- him I and they need to they need to rush -- going to -- and -- and with Thomas on the outside linebacker in Vrabel on the other side Mayo is the real deal in the middle we an early and active. That you and Vrabel the -- do they do that which is -- and privilege to acts last week right. Picking up off of twelve and half last year and that he's in the careers of his career -- that go together as he wants retire. Yet he's played that well at least statistically it helps that he's in the spot where he panicked right and you've got Thomas on the other side -- back to the level that he says that he. Wants to be health wise and and performance wise. Wilfork is a beast in the middle Ty Warren. It still as good as any any defensive lineman in and that's not a pro bowler in this league. I really think they can have an advantage over the Jets offensive line I think -- that. Is going to be key if the if Hobbs and the new guys in the secondary do you stick with their time and and is this the year the -- peek into the backfield and you are doing. Let the rush guys take care far and -- their job in the defensive. Backfield is going to be. Giving scored -- on what -- think they Patriots point three. Jets thirteen and they castle Rose two touchdowns one. -- 3:30 PM and I think Arthur is that we toothpicks and -- and the -- but you know -- tickets I'm out here Eric thank you very -- greatly appreciated to signal -- on -- television from PFW -- join -- here on Thursday is part of the program I'm out here on the other -- Baxter from ESPN -- quarter -- to look at that -- and the rest of the week to around the -- appearance of the --"

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[48:05]" Which is everybody. -- yeah. Not -- event I'm good I'm really good hug everybody at home for partners by the what forget about the pleasantries because Russell you know he's got his nose to the grindstone I I've been trying to explain to people -- at the turn what does he didn't losing what does he do -- on the bottom and and you understand. Ray Russell is the only person that he is being whose sole job is 365 days a year the National Football League."

[48:31]" Yes yeah I know it's it's kind of an envious position to put it in. Those people who are lighting up to take -- A couple of -- Successive weeks ago when I get to -- and I love and I get to do regular rail you know like. -- for football season go to eight months ago where -- from -- into the NFL draft and did you know work of that alive during the offseason and it's it's a project enjoy coming here in the emphasis that he has pianist in the National Football League can. Certainly not help her might cause whatsoever and we already we are one week old and it is already an incredibly interesting. He's an unfortunate turn leaving for the wrong reasons."

[49:11]" The other what to say I mean interesting season that's probably putting it kind of modeling I mean honestly. You know injuries have an impact on games on teams. Every season I mean you know it's is that is part of the game I think it's the nature of the sport but. To have some of the injuries that we've had this early in more specifically to have Tom Brady your reigning NFL MVP go down with a season ending knee injury in week one. It's almost unprecedented OQ does change things a little."

[49:37]" You know despite -- you know reflection it was Booker Gary that he does my music group but I just to be Gary and beat you when I last spoke. Turkey wants the football game which had. -- that we were on the air the and while the quarterback. And even to a bigger picture and throw something out to your child. Tom let's go let's go back to two weeks it would Superbowl we had the -- final four my comment quick pop quiz you know. Just throw up fourteen to -- final four if you would please."

[50:06]" The final four last year are you had to you had the Patriots. And you had. The -- trash talk. And that any other idea of the Giants and in the Packers."

[50:19]" Correct in the what did you change instead. Think about this and sent considered says we can't. Tom Brady is out for the season Shawn Marion is out of the seat right Brett Favre is now in New York Jets. The Giants no longer -- and the retirement or injury Michael Strahan and Osi Umenyiora correct so that's that's your final four from last year those."

[50:42]" Teams has been effective fairly significantly."

[50:45]" You wonder will need to lead for various reasons now let's say get out the injury -- they do the reason for this week being harder repeat. Okay -- this is not new to this year immediately idea that we must -- MVP that early we probably haven't seen anything like that since Terrell Davis went down about four games this season. In 1999 until but the league MVP again that early in the here. Part of it every year. -- don't -- that kinda. Star power. And prominent players among powerful team. In April at the Super Bowl teams and two runners up. And again Brett Favre had told different boat but the fact remains he's little warmer with the Green Bay Packers. And either Michael Strahan and -- won't with the New York Giants you just think about all those components of that someday championships under -- they've played in getting their teams. Either to the Super -- or just missing the Super Bowl. And that's a lot of probable to play another you know the Packers lost. And it agrees to a Jets game and I understand all that but he ever changing landscape of the NFL the it's what makes this game so fascinating and some that we can't -- this week although again change for the wrong reasons you know Tom's suffering a knee injury and you know Shawne -- given that the old college try but one was also done. He's probably did take in the smart route to preserve his you know career served. I think I think he would be. Thomas well of course Umenyiora was lost during the pre season and beat the preceding game I may point out not -- Second preceding game when the -- I -- talk about playing too many preceding games these days and I'm sure United at such a net a few minutes. -- just interesting to note that -- your final four you wonder why that final four changes a lot your year end and on the same token. That's why you admire the New England Patriots. And the Indianapolis Colts. Who won the division title fight eager to grow in this state. And at Seattle Seahawks were at eighty. There's -- there's OT right now -- put more treatment Seattle who won their division for years and grow the team that consistently get it every year or almost every year the Eagles to a degree the Steelers to a degree. The franchises that you know our era in year out contenders. Again after Meyer adamant that they make."

[53:00]" I edu if you get on a very good point which is why exactly are I'm having a hard time understanding of the naysayers and I heard. -- coach -- through this this morning audience and radio mica -- he was saying that he thinks now that the Jets should be considered a favorite in the AFC."

[53:15]" I'm glad I don't quite interesting because not only do low quick statistical match here we already mentions. Now that the Patriots won the division here's to -- What would -- and the Jets beat the Patriots at all."

[53:31]" The Patriots have won eleven straight."

[53:35]" And what they've won seven straight at the truth the little early Tom Brady had a better record to meddle into the Jets the Giants. He dig out there he -- at the end of the year last year. I believe these kids have lost ten of eleven overall. To the New England Patriots. It's like you know interest in a different sent to the completed this week. Around Cleveland. In position to ups store you know take over its perks but -- ignore. The Browns have lost nine in a -- and 1516 to the Steelers. Before you worry about winning the division you might want to worry about actually defeating the team. And throw that out one more thing. Before we start making the Jets that favored but consider they were swept lecture by the Buffalo Bills so. The bottle -- might have something dissect what it's all said and -- I -- huge. She appears to -- round beat your division of these conference or B the overall thing. So until I see anyone badly you know it's like played given the football to Kenny stabler Roger -- parker John Elway the final two minutes or Tom Brady. When I see three -- on the scoreboard that'll be convinced. That it's over."

[54:44]" Yeah as soon forget or a couple of years ago on the one last."

[54:48]" Yet when they went up there -- and of course they look that it -- in the playoffs up at Foxboro but kind of eleventh. And ten of eleven overall including two playoff -- seven. They never -- so -- the little yeah I mean that's you know before he ignored the favorite public just you know. That's what that's what make this interesting one of these teams you know all the teams in. Want last week immediately to but the Big Three -- of speech on Indianapolis lost to Chicago. Seed -- lost that help aid to Ian eagle Indianapolis lost at home to Carolina Chicago actually play each other this week okay do we don't want -- quarterback. You know things change it depending about the get a -- what sixteen games it's five on stage changed. Very quickly you never know what's going to happen I mean we we got toward you starting quarterback this week. Because of -- Okay -- out Tennessee. Jeff Garcia is out Internet team but although that might be more than just wounded ankle. And of course pro recoil and you know being regular start against the Raiders for Kansas City tour one -- and and 18 of the starting quarterbacks -- So you know it did it take -- yourself. In the worry about who's favored who could win as many games as possible get into the playoffs and then take your chances there but. The big champion to -- person New England. -- rejecting might have a few of the players."

[56:12]" Well that's what we are have been trying to remind people here think all in all week long special those that are panicky. And."

[56:18]" Well I mean I understand to a decreed the essence of panic. Okay it's not like he's seen it you know what let's say a particular player okay because if you want to demean anybody but it's not like. He meticulously issues -- for the Patriots secret. It's not like Bobble off film blank what they are you are talking about a quarterback and keep all. -- most productive seasons that history here in terms of touchdown -- 250. In terms of York's 48 sacks third most medical history only threw eight interceptions. That team wins sixty you know citizens or normal circumstance. That we're talking about here it just it just it's all -- I understand the sense of panic and for most. We're at large degree of New England Patriots to them you know once Tom Brady started -- 32001 against the hapless Colts taking over. For Drew Bledsoe. They've not known another quarterback because -- missed the start if you include the playoff 128 straight games -- eleven regular season so. I mean it's it's it's the equivalent of go back in 1999 John. When the differences between United had an awful season. And had an awful -- like that close to twenty years it's almost like a generation or so doesn't know the New England Patriots without Tom Brady just like. More than a generation back into don't of the Packers repertoire."

[57:41]" Okay well. I don't that's part of you think that -- needed everybody a little or no I don't think so I can't think -- it I got -- I don't know I'm actually just caused me to stop and think a little bit which is what I like about our conversation with you always caused me to. Nuclear club that I'll only got a -- of electrical and I don't. I'm not going to help their brother regular in my own battles to fight at a trust me on Allen."

[58:05]" You know it's it's effects in reality you know goes and attacks that mattered stuff and you know it's it's just like we started winning teams in the best team week after week one week at. In this -- is proved -- three years in Toronto. They just getting into the playoffs is -- remember. It's -- Stewart succeed won the Super Bowl. Indianapolis Colts for three feet and one suitable what was the Giants were five in the and it -- and they and they won the Super Bowl the last three games when suitable. -- while court and two of them who won three straight road games have been won the Super Bowl -- 220 games not ninety they all took the long route right. So it's you know. I'm -- to put Nelson George Mason into the Super Bowl like but this but this league dissent has become the NCAA tournament you know you get into coaching it's --"

[58:51]" Exactly right that's exactly right okay -- Let's what will come back to the pats in the -- that a little bit but I -- want to take a look at a couple of the games this week it's always we have -- want to do over the last few years Russell at least some some intriguing matchup that I there's a bunch this week so you don't walk our pick and choose your our -- Zaheer put first and foremost I want to look go with the AFC and Indianapolis playing at Minnesota. Both teams being 11 the Colts were stumbling horribly I might -- Against the Chicago Bears -- a -- also what kind of a taker for a team that was expected you better it is already battles survival and you."

[59:29]" Well in this sense it may be you know I don't want to say 2 -- and a big hole because you have to go all the way back to. Let me think. Last year didn't OT team won the super all the other Rhodes -- the together who are right so the Patriots and Antowain so effective. For the last seventeen to win the simple lost the first game of the year. So. Let's flag except for the let them 1. 1 Patriot. 2 box you know totally Patriots 31 topic by the radio. Patriots lawyer Malloy a game and then of course -- trying to keep up eighty points in their first two games and came back four months later won super."

[1:00:08]" So what you and then as we look at all the week one losers pick this year's Super Bowl winner. --"

[1:00:13]" And look at all the week one what -- they realize they go undefeated there's -- a chance that I can't make up only Russell Baxter knows this. Unbelievable lack of a social like it's paid off I got you there is okay for everybody to Egypt let me check."

[1:00:27]" Show you that the nature what do you don't you go back in contracts I talk about the corporate. You go back to the attitudes of you know 2 what do team to win the Super Bowl -- teams whose immediate. All the -- free agency is gone right out the window. A lot of itself and if you really the last eleven years -- here I don't. Talked to beaten track -- Nine the last eleven years the team with the best record this week has not won -- super. Want to do what's what's the moment right for the last eleven years while -- one. When the 97 -- the O -- 2000 Ravens Steelers they tried to eventual for the first 31 year to the Super Bowl mania right Al wild cards at first where years. Once Super Bowl team would -- Once Super Bowl winner that would 1980 -- agent on get so the landscape leash changed in terms of what it takes to get -- when I that's why I think he'd be inconsistent -- these seeks its funny seeing all these won't winning streak fourteen starts winning. You think that the Patriots 121 game overall winning streak which the NFL record. Right now they won twenty regular season games which is an NFL record and okay and get that you see other -- Kansas City like a ten game losing streak. It's a -- streaks if you get that the right -- thought it got it happened for the viewers accompanied a the Indianapolis Colts two years ago quickly -- save their lives. At the minute span of four games in the playoffs all the sudden look like the fearsome force that won a Super Bowl. Okay I mean that's it's the streak he didn't read Stephen should do the national anthem for now want. Gibbons called the streak that's what should be in response to be and a."

[1:02:02]" I. Don't really are well -- that you are reporting that it is certainly right into -- So. It's just it's that's what you know that's just kinda way it's become the you know that's about all. This is nice -- back Indianapolis overload. Okay I think it was the most peculiar about watching the Colts. Is. That they luck so this is seen a couple of years -- was thirteen -- now. They folded up like finishing -- opening night you know albeit one suitable number election except you know with the Patriots beat up so the last and the Colts want their first two games. -- and he was a rookie. -- ten years. We're not used to see -- being able to it and know it's slow start but I think they think their offensive line which of course is that -- Saturday. Did not perform better than it did last week. Tom against the interior that -- inclined. And I think the interior could they've really got the push -- you know I know Jared Allen was a big off season acquisition. Like draft pick a lot of money it's about the way he did not have a tackle last week. At green -- He knocked up a pass that was his real significant like. Okay but if the Colts don't get that pushed -- able to control the Williams -- not so redid the desperate that Kevin. Thomas there's going to be a lot of trouble again and it wouldn't be two point I want to say wait till. You know rookie of the year -- juvenile number and I -- the court because they were guilty that want. Go to the motions maybe the first last couple weeks this season or the last game but it -- Allison. -- Jacksonville. -- the political conflict into the postseason which -- great. Actually over the New York judge played parked up against new England and of course New England did it well. Now let's say if you agree to go and base -- got a Super Bowl by. -- that. I've -- at that point because it's I think it would appreciate that I know people don't like the pre season I don't people get frustrated with the preceded. But you know put assemblage of the team -- I think all the that your guys or guys they're just going to be able to show up. And play professional football. It's not going to happen. Okay you play golf. Williams. Yes we will well look at this team. What -- handicap to. Tom would be better you play more often course. Is there any gain no individual game that required more repetition in golf -- Is there any game you know like any team sports as much as anyone. Requires so much repetition professional footballer any level football probably well you know cannot practice them. You know I used to accept that the -- that because they're never practiced. Because it's like and a -- good. -- The kid you don't have some sort -- mean. Peyton Manning did not play interpret -- but they also lost their starting center but they also -- team that you know a lot of times in the pre season. -- and play. But at least he's involved immediately Peyton Manning we committed in obedience Colts were majority of the summer there's no -- you're going to have any collegiate you take a starting center way. In the -- season could put a rookie in the air from Buffalo. Com. And you're going to -- be a quick defensive front like the Chicago Bears and that you're going to have problems if they think this problem this week episode."

[1:05:23]" you said the same thing about the Patriots have Tom Brady we're still helping."

[1:05:28]" yes I would agree. Absolutely I mean you know you just can't depend on the other components as well okay that's different to the cold -- the -- don't play. A lot of guys necessarily. Now but the cold circumstances. Is a little different because of Saturday injury. Okay I mean you know the reported just charity every Peyton Manning of him basically been together here. Okay with the way they run their offense on you know up front. That's different but you know it but look at doing what you know New England didn't have him come for the whole preceded. They -- I think it's still. Played Q what they had to do they performed this that they were. -- I didn't look at -- say another -- he it's he just can't show up. Expect everything to just run smoothly. That -- you need to listen we we have all talked about doing -- Tom Brady. When Baltimore cats and what was going to happen to and so like -- junior -- all week it -- on what he's a wonderful slogan what. They did with the football. Okay I don't against Kansas city's teams. Now lost ten under but the -- bottom line is that they -- away. They get they cut with a with a goal line after big play by point oh advantage when football game because after suffering back final loss to Indianapolis Colts played -- home last week it's a teammate. The Super Bowl a couple of years ago. And they looked. Sloppy. They -- It to a degree -- And so what I try to dump all over Indianapolis and stuff but I'm you know. Depending on the approach that you take. To these games. And depending what happens -- the problem is is if you don't take it's seriously. I'm a single locker knock yourself out for four for creepiest game -- I really hope again the next couple years that the league does go to. An eighteen game regular seat and hope that nobody in them that."

[1:07:25]" Really think that'll happen well. I don't see how they don't the owners give up two games over revenue like -- the you know as well as -- the the pre season is a great featuring."

[1:07:36]" Absolutely but I think if if if you go to preceding games -- eighteen regular season game doubt our sight of the cable DS LI don't suck it up Seattle played eighteen regular season games. These you -- you accept all played eighteen regular season games it would have. Absolutely. You know comparing leak so leak is the only money that we're all -- all three -- that they want. To. My my point being it's if you are going to put guys on the field have a good incentive for the baby needs something. And second off a potent even twenty years ago or mini camps rookie camps. Com okay yea he's you're together into one -- full time job. Okay eagle back to the sixties and seventies of to a degree the -- Before the money really became prominent. I think triple. So had a good job in the off season. Though they get into the money that they're making intelligent now more of the year title and that's why they're required viewing habits. I think full time responsibility. Rather than LA for lack of better word -- a time job. Okay and I think. Now that you -- together more. I still think you need some game conditions. But you don't need this many heat conditions that you used to it felt like -- glad a couple of years. Because the pre season. Some teams -- opening day look pretty sharp. But for the most part of football the first couple weeks during this kind of you know try to wake the sleeping that are fighting to get themselves together. One candidate and --"

[1:09:10]" And -- you know -- value that opinion I think you you you I just I think the bottom line will be that the owners won't want to give up you know."

[1:09:17]" they believe that there's going to be stumbled to a 1 and I'm I am just curious to see John. What happens Tom. What you know -- with CPA influx right now."

[1:09:29]" What exactly what army army add a -- at a summit next year and I I wondered. That will change we don't know what it will be -- I don't the orders given back a couple of."

[1:09:38]" Now an object -- what I'm curious I commuted up somebody last week and because it was it's it's going to be put on the table market -- like it the next owners' meeting. I'm wondering. In the next two years before you know we -- 2000 you know eleven. We go to go to the seventeen games season. I'll just -- the next two years and I know that they couldn't oddity because not everybody all have decision about a home -- One year you do -- conference when you're you -- gathering my -- equal product to right and then once that you'd be okay it's ratified we go to an eighteen agencies to talk to anybody about that. It's just. Give good experiment or that maybe that's -- way to --"

[1:10:18]" I actually think that viable idea I think that that is viable way you know I'd like he had happen because I think you're right. Pre season as it personally consistent is stupid."

[1:10:27]" Well they -- they do it that much work you're held. Okay it's different -- guy showed up at a shape. Orange they didn't play themselves back -- had."

[1:10:40]" By the way dumb if you head. If you with the defending Super Bowl champions."

[1:10:46]" You have had a you've got a bit. Evan -- go to seven games can you imagine trying to remember the with a -- with a group originally put the college All-Star that's played at Chicago's soldier field."

[1:10:56]" Right to UN are the only two people and know that I want to that maybe the -- And -- 76. Is it didn't rain storm in the matter it's solar field and that would be candidate. It up a seven game that your playing only one football game and and seven of them don't --"

[1:11:14]" The threat it was pretty amazing. Aren't as well go back to the scheduling him as we sidetracked but I liked it like that we attract. And couple -- games that I wanted to kind of a point two. Another one in the AFC Buffalo that very impressive opening week playing. At Jacksonville on their opener in Jacksonville course stumbled stumbled badly and I'm just again wondering Buffalo as good -- where is Jack though as bad or is there -- in between."

[1:11:40]" Well you know as much as we talk just black -- politically difficult problems. I think it somewhat pale comparison to what. Jack built go to right now. Remember you know they they were ready -- element Brett Easter on their offensive line this past week they put two. Other starting guards are not on IR. A beast lives in Maurice Williams are out to be here. So -- one of the best power football team to what particular Maurice Jones Drew. Who maul people with their line and they are being held -- to their starter. On the offensive line now I would say it is just Buffalo they get a lot of first -- specialty. So a lot of chicanery last week you know let's go Paris what other place but the you know -- play. -- thrown a touchdown pass. -- going to fumble recovery this special teams that big. But do you over the last few years spoke slowly gotten much much better on the offensive and defensive lines. I want on the Jacksonville last week you played pretty well they got to go 3614. Well I'm -- to be surprised to bottle carries a little momentum. From last week confidence wise now come again some trick plays but I think any time. You couldn't see and he beat a perennial playoff team like Seattle can only help you confidence wise enough not to be surprised all the -- logo on. Jacksonville who is you know on paper probably still the better team. But they might have the wall getting this thing at the wrong time against the Buffalo team that people forget probably. Would this much or more heart and any team in the league lecture given how many people they lost along the way especially deep."

[1:13:19]" By the -- the latest line that is an even game so."

[1:13:23]" That you can call me and obviously you can't. Take away. They were actually you know they give up 94 point and it can get a lot during this year. I think about 21 point heartbreaker -- to Denver Dallas. Now let's say you eliminate those. Okay but you know you take a closer look at the -- season. They need a lot of strides. To where they were a couple of years ago and they seem to like dirt because they're soft -- combo Trent Edwards and had Marshawn Lynch in the back field. They've gotten better you know this but a lot of money there ought to point last year and I think it. Paid off handsomely. And this year you know these -- hoping a deep sense I think they're going to be an interesting fact."

[1:14:05]" Next -- of course is Miami in Miami lost their opener apparently to these -- to the Jets this week's opponent Miami gets to go on the road and take on Arizona and Arizona won their opener Arizona's up a slight favorite but certainly manageable favorite and I'm wondering if what you thought Miami was improved and all Chad Pennington wanted to."

[1:14:23]" I think all grouped around these seem like it still has some issues and secondary. That the pats don't doubt that they gave -- Bartlett sweet you know what what the vintage car you know well back and throw it the other one Vietnam. Look like did you feel quite roll that back in and out and it was almost say ten point catch up because it almost want to be operated well. I'll -- it probably probably got away with one on that went on the other hand the Dolphins TP sports the football. That being said that you don't blame you -- a little bit of a run at the end there but no Arizona. Is intriguing -- You know which Seattle -- they are and you know what might we Geary considered the favorite stand over most of basics that. And one in Odessa vacancies in the Arizona Cardinals would not want to division title since 1975. When David St. Louis Cardinals it's 33 years ago you would have thought they might not want him there. Okay. They may be no blood in the water -- Seattle's banged up and let's in the -- long time since -- the part of about 22 would know start much less. -- division title now but. This is one of those games that they're expected to win. And need to win the order Tedy. The good run to start with second half of last year. They still got those pretty solid receiver. And you know larger dreams -- hundred -- game they really controlled the clock against Hibbert is a last week and -- the diners. Also the ball five times but I think I expect resorted to look. To take care of business here. They're the DDT but I think a lot of people think --"

[1:16:01]" A couple of games -- to touch on very quickly one of them is McCorkel rivalry game Pittsburgh playing at Cleveland. And of course -- the other Sunday night game on NBC. It was very impressive Cleveland got to be taken themselves a little bit in Pittsburg is a touchdown road favorite in this."

[1:16:17]" And had to do with the fact that liquid natural and it showed he beat abrupt about it straight times. I think one at Cleveland 7 -- They beat the -- fifteen and sixteen times overall. If they let you know since that. They have. Really -- This series as of -- and last year you know. On opening day you know a big big big idol he'd beat the Browns. You know Charlie draw the front were so directly got traded two days later. Seattle now of course that the team. With a good think because they're -- and emerged. At a Pro Bowl cornerback could. But defensively they you know they also played -- in Pittsburgh leader -- will be lead. So. He -- that he can -- fuel for -- you'd think all the offensive numbers they put up election year. I'll admit that this don't want people to beat Pittsburgh and last week defense with all the changes that -- made it out to short Rogers in the Corey Williams. -- want accountable for that -- line I mean Dallas. You don't really can't went through them like hot and daughter. I think I don't think it would hurt the offense was. Over the dreadful but I think -- they cut so behind so early. Well it could be a problem again this week to what it was interesting now Pittsburgh is. -- there's a team last year that you look at third number on the serve particularly well look at they would be counted six. Station you know won't be -- figures to run the football and last year you know one -- Willie -- sweetly rushing. The final running numbers look respectable but they were -- lecture they're really ran feel the pets. We saw them do against Houston last week was kinda detectable only played three years ago. In 2005. Up until the postseason where they've really control the clock with the run. And that brew when they wanted to throw -- Ben Roethlisberger last week which thirteen out of fourteen. But that was because their -- of like -- couple's second Mario Williams they get that deal worked out okay agrees that sounds really controlled the slot. End. You know it'll it'll be interesting near Pittsburgh can continue. Its domination for the Browns get to go back contract can be that they want to go Duke that's certainly doesn't put them behind. -- they took my it would it's much too early to think about it puts psychologically. They need to finally hold service home. And beat the Steelers in their own --"

[1:18:47]" But he -- one more here before we go back of the -- that your game on Monday night obvious in game Philadelphia at Dallas two teams that are pretty good opening win. And Philadelphia for the most part not get a lot of respect in the NFC east which by the way I think right now his hands down the best division in the NFL Cowboys looked okay and the Cowboys are home."

[1:19:06]" Yet and you know put these people pretty impressive come at a gate around here the liquid he saw from both of them. -- a little it forget Philadelphia went into Dallas one accurately -- beat the Cowboys. -- so. It this week. Cause for this christmas on you know on on the Cowboys partly because I think they. I think they do what kind of looking Philadelphia is you know agreement. We have a tendency sometimes a -- doubt that it would kind of pointed favor the NFC this year. You know bolstered by their roster the record Q did you select Zach Thomas and Adam Joe and so want. I don't know but either factor between these teams know each other very very well if you reduce the Cowboys here who wrote a lot of success because it's affected won the last two years. In Dallas now of course doubt about it Sunday night at whacked them pretty good up -- Philadelphia. So loved these two teams know each -- well but. It was going to see Donovan McNabb pickup -- kinda left awfully last year. Energy he had a big game passed in the morning they keep Cowboys -- street -- to put the -- Visited his daughter and of course -- depleted everybody remembered from last year was Brian Westbrook running for an insurance touchdown. That's stopping one yard short of the goal like. In order to kill more pop off the clock. So which would be the greatest not a scored recent memory. -- give the public and unselfish guy who. -- scored a touchdown. I hope that literal -- I believe this story good bye John Roddick is -- get dare we kill more clock -- but I would for the more memorable thing that's gonna happen last season. In terms of this rivalry as well. But you have to wake up around do we both teams came out of the -- Well I this is certainly there going to be any easy games for Dallas Cowboys given. The effected you like agree with you. From top to bottom you know best divisional football I think that was the case last year you know as well I got the better numbers belong to the AFC south. Well but I think from top to bottom just of course you know solid. Tom you know told -- we -- just people of the just about that he -- the end -- the year last year -- I think -- think they'll probably hold serve and gets that contract at least at home in the probably -- lost the last two years double that to be -- that all. Oh but I would be surprised if if Philadelphia go to Barrett and in wins not at all because I think these two -- very much. All the -- today and why go to be difficult for delta over to. Duplicate thirteen wins from a year ago because it's very -- that ever happened and for any team. You have to like the competence level which they played it in Cleveland last week it."

[1:21:51]" Oliver is back full circle them -- pats in the Jets then 4:15 eastern time at Giants Stadium on Sunday. This overall series as we talked about earlier with the Patriots won ten of the last eleven in the series and haven't read the -- and they'll groceries is deadlocked 4848. In one all time 98 meeting between these two teams that's laughable."

[1:22:13]" it's it's it's very interesting moment -- I mean of course plaster over all the years that all the controversy. From the opening day he's we had."

[1:22:22]" I like about this game because. Right now I don't doubt rivalries in the NFL on how we wish we could go back and get these days the good old days of the the Cowboys Redskins I think this to me along with the -- the Patriot in the Colts. Has an opportunity to beat their unique one team though to be appreciably better than they and I."

[1:22:40]" Absolutely. Yeah that he's good and sort you know -- can go back you know he took agree probably and stuff and thumping of the great rivalries. With the certainty Spain factored into not that it kinda carried over. Off the field because of other things that happen and stuff I mean you know that there you know told him the ability to just coach for one day. You know they -- big Curtis Martin. Either that the Patriots tough match an offer sheet he becomes. The New York Jets and throw all the different things in the spotlight that. -- kinda hearkens back to. The state wanted to with the -- reader Steelers of the seventies. When they were not only did he play he couldn't play just by appeared to grow they were. Battling -- court over the criminal -- that the NFL. And you know I think that happened than Pittsburgh hotel that -- players and accusations of you go to -- writing groups you know putting -- graffiti on -- from all the kind of schoolyard type stuff that's still overt about going up to the football field but you know. All the rubble football in general. I think have a kind of a smattering of that with -- you know beat you need. You know component when you have a a tight with the former defensive coordinator -- head coach the team that's certainly helps. But you -- the big Cordero what is it's it's a rivalry that sense and I didn't necessarily a rivalry. In -- sensible on the field because there's but the domination by what franchise. Over another double digits learned to end that record and get a lot of Brett Favre direct. I understand that the meter club that but I didn't see it happen first and I need to see happen in this building -- the jets' first because again you know. The Patriots have played. Seven games it'll last seven years against the Jets the Giants haven't lost. So well you know we once. Police seven delegates -- let's look let's see what happens and until the Jets and he recalled that's why it would be an enormous for the Jets. To win the I I think I will also say that. The Patriots win this week -- now with the new quarterback. And given the changes the Jets have made depending on how the game would unfold. Could be. -- possibility that the Jets went scratch your head about as well welcome them and how they play a -- that just gonna say. Automatically the Jets lose and expect to the drawing board. But there's a lot of not put into this game. -- the United builder they build a team and a certain way your daughter team. That -- beat the teams within your division. Okay that's the foremost thing even before Brett Favre -- there to -- the effort by the -- have been -- Also their offensive line which they did you know and don't forget David -- Big -- there could be an improved team. We global support acquisition -- elected maybe to carry on the subject but. Is the most important thing. Divisional games hold serve at all and that's what they need to do to take that extent."

[1:25:46]" That's true. This game is going to boulder in my opinion whether or not the Patriots office declined to find a way to take the pressure off of Matt Cassel has improved -- line. -- you know the Patriots want to simple fire they could make -- think that they want to double what things support for -- lemmings running the ball can and they run the ball against the Jets and in the keep the ball or Brett Favre."

[1:26:08]" I think I mean I know they have to go work on. Bolstered their run defense in New York and so on but -- the Patriots still feature pretty good offensive line they had them. You know if they can find a way to go to loosen up. Would just do you know when you go three for perjury for a player right there's no better. He's good against the run. That the incentive you know I think the Patriots I think the Patriots record list of debris injury were. Looking like they might -- different style off -- I didn't think they could comment this year do what they did last year okay did -- too much schooled them on the I think they need to be more like the Patriots a 2004 which. You know even though Tom Brady had a very very Goodyear I'd -- a got a big big here from Corey -- Of course there was a big factor in the postseason as well I mean I don't greedy. Is greedy and so on but. The -- didn't treat me that the Patriots would -- recent post -- disagree if you will they won all three different place. What do we different style you know they were different team with a young quarterback what they wanted 2000 wanted really want -- special teams. It 2003 they were little more pass oriented even though they Antowain Smith. And in 2004 they completely shifted indicated they look at a much better defensive team. They were much more Iraqi -- at 2014 winter most balanced team. Of the three Super Bowl winner."

[1:27:32]" Yeah it would yeah 4 yeah. I would -- why play calling wanted to that they were very balanced football team and what you don't like editor of the electorate. It also takes pressure off your defense and also intense. Until it's seafood older legs had it on May be able to do. Russell's rookie. You do that you was overdue -- didn't -- tried to apply to an era then nobody -- well."

[1:28:03]" You media capital once it has been since we've had on the program whatsoever what you know that greatly appreciate that you take a little time to visit with a -- talk you know football -- about the Patriots brought. Touching on things around the NFL they -- the Patriots and you know what their opponents and things like that I think that means a lot of Mets fans especially those that take the time to listen to this program on a daily indoor weekly basis."

[1:28:24]" I just assume that everybody anyway so I appreciate."

[1:28:28]" Don't we get a lot of draws from -- podcast you know people that can't listen live they will download podcast after -- after hours after were all live -- that's been one -- the biggest improvement we -- the website is having all of our program now. Well available via podcast we equal if you get that went."

[1:28:43]" So that means they can just replay we have -- little over over over again until until they finally believed. Where they can just maybe make him like a little Hannah with the idea you know little little music. I reminded -- I go get you through this."

[1:29:03]" Could joke very -- Talked -- actually make you Russell Richard. Russell -- from ESP NFL research coordinator you'll join us every week here on Thursday -- Patriots playbook a bomb. That's another team doesn't want to get to that we're going to hear from Matt Cassel correct is that what we're doing today. We're in from Mecca that I -- that was it his converse cars his locker room and view. In this -- in the locker room today oh will we want to bring that you. As he met members of the Patriots media primarily. In the locker room following practice today so we want to will bring -- to you here in the play book due to his thoughts on January for his first NFL start that really means something in the meantime come. -- give them the other emails those that -- taken the time email here today and against appreciated web radio at. At -- three dot com are looking for number one. Would you go after Jeff Garcia if available and number two what you think the score for Sunday's game to impact legit will be. Daniel he writes and says the longtime agent releases. I would not go after Jeff are you you have what you need right now. Are in the mature with that is looks like it's garbled -- like that choice I'm -- thought about. -- On the choice because he can now move the team has -- sense why bring in of the QB well. I suppose that's true there and -- why not bring in somebody who. Has the experience of getting his team to the playoffs and should Matt Cassel -- why would you bring in what you have more experience than they all I don't know a rookie and Kevin O'Connell. Not to denigrate O'Connell at all. But the Patriot tracker it has been to bring rookies along slowly -- throw him out there if he's not really ready. Gore Jimmy -- This one he comes from fans in Washington DC is. John great to have another she's a Patriots playbook it was what it all all season for the return of -- crucial sports. The thank you spent a of -- his -- Anyway out of the -- all this or recruit him Culpepper washed up mistake prone veteran talk is nonsense. We -- Patriots fans often talked about how imported -- play mistake free football. Especially without Brady is he every single one of those quarterbacks -- history of blowing it with a bad you know I NT or fumble. Garcia lost the game the -- last week in the final seconds -- an interception. Either way let's get real Cassel played a fairly decent mistake free game last Sunday he -- does with the Jets and and not give him until the bye week and then give O'Connell chance. And -- support maverick John McCain coaching. But the Patriots have always been a a meritocracy. And O'Connell that's another good word for the day meritocracy cute and O'Connell showed up in a big way this pre season. Brady won us our first -- his second year of a fluke injury not unlike that -- Brady would all that being said Patriots over Jets 2420. Cassell with will manage the game enough to win Brett with a couple of home daggers that Hobbs and here original plot from the -- Let's go -- aren't that good stuff on the you know I don't really disagree with that in the huge day. What I'm thinking well you know what. If something does happen -- and he does not. Move the team would does not play actively involved in you know chances are 5050 right now on theory you know he can either play well enough -- manager or play not well enough in the Patriots -- Analysts -- caution if he doesn't do well all you have his rookie Kevin O'Connell. Why would you want to try to ruin the guy why wouldn't you want to bring in somebody who. Gladly take the fall of that's what they had if that's what need to happen and a guy like or what should I think the odds would be on his side. He's a veteran. He knows how to get the job done doesn't make mistakes sure all quarterbacks. And it you know if you don't have to give up anything -- why would you want to. John -- So glad your back welcome the only reason at least well my coworkers asked me if I was all right Sunday it's like that they have who will 42 all over again. I'm not all worried about the season that may sound like I'm just a homer but. One every media media declare the -- he's over I was insult let's remember that as amazing as Brady is there are fifty to the guys out there that want to win every week. Normally it's not like Brady commanded high school football team and we're nothing about it. I feel completely confident that this team most of capsule will be a vision bill will adjust as needed and we -- that the if -- As for the question of Belichick or Brady a more useless slaughter is Bruschi -- Harrison. Is it Dean Pees or Josh McDaniel the question to me is by design made to make the team's second guessed themselves as they are disciplined to buoyant. As for Sunday it was surprise everyone Favre will be hit act rushed throw interceptions having a terrible game for the home opener and I -- Monday morning all the media media was about to tell the world how bad we are. And that a -- went just Luke. 24 Jets fourteen. He's his old topic I would definitely get Garcia if the price is right John thank. Next is our for an Howard in Orange Connecticut. Howard -- I wouldn't give up first day pick for Garcia but Belichick has always been all about creating competition. So bringing in Garcia as the number two would create pressure on cap to perform immediately which I don't believe he currently has. With the rookie O'Connell as number two. Don't get me wrong he Cassel is under pressure as the starter but it's not the same as -- comfortable and ready to open it take your job you know good point. Good point -- And one that had not entered into my thought process is but will now. Arm that could help it could be just the edged it to get him on track -- may be keeping track. And or his past 44 Jets wanting I think the D and he has special teams helped win this would more than. Bart he says what is the reasonably that we will have a chance do well with out Brady when coach military has a very mediocre winning that. Prior to Brady as a head coach. Well you improve is definitely in the putting from. I think you have to believe. Primarily in the roster that they've built up. That you know you when you've got you know eight. Or -- Pro Bowl caliber players. According to last year's you know comparable to believe that at all and now -- then. Frankly you have to think that this team has done enough in terms of building themselves up internally to where they have more than just quarterback now it is true that Belichick has done well with Brady before that. He didn't but he didn't have the chance yet it just coming and -- the chance to build the franchise. He's built the franchise along with Brady as the quarterback. So now if the franchise of the foundation of the work is strong enough to survive the -- quake if you will. That losing Tom Brady has presented. I think most people realize party that. This team is wrong and should remain relatively strong without Brady as the quarterback. Based on the players that you brought. Barbara says Jeff Garcia no way. The score on Sunday past seventeen Jets fourteen and overtime both quarterbacks -- a lot to prove but I think our -- was step up halt the Jets and going. One comment first -- show second it's a whole helluva good of the team shouldn't fall apart because one player is gone but. The quarterback is the catalyst. Of the team. No doubt no doubt -- I just happen to think though that that your quarterback is the catalyst put the quarterback. All -- needs to be a manager more than anything else he doesn't need to be the catalyst some -- Nomar without a doubt. Dynamic. Spectacular. Flashy kind of guy. You know that they can you know very -- but some can put the team on the shoulders and will them to win. I don't think I don't think Matt Cassel has to be that kind of I think he's got enough support around him he's got the same weapons the Tom Brady had wrote to -- handoff to. -- had nothing to do with a decent -- and still has to be improve let's see if this coaching staff let's give Belichick the GM and Scott pioli. Let's see if they did what they thought they should do in the of their success with that. In sort of retooling this deep in the offseason that's completely get overlooked and all the almighty -- the season's over talks. You know the team went out and addressed -- first based on what we all in the Super Bowl because. Get a little long in the tooth. Actually in the line backing core. Jerod Mayo was a pretty good job I would say for this early stage in his professional career. We've seen Mike Vrabel become only had two sacks last week yeah I was -- but it's great start nevertheless. We'll see what happens -- the chance this -- these guys an opportunity. Joe. Max says I believe the pats would have gone sixteen and -- with Brady this year Cassell. Twelve and four. I don't think Brady -- four games I just think this because the team will step up they always do step up when needed. In my prediction for Sunday 23 point Favre will throat and I'm assuming you're thinking Patriots 22. He. In Central Florida just wanted to drop a quick email about the show I like both PFW -- Patriots playbook but I have to say that I like playbook much better -- PFW. Because it all Patriots and football talk along with a the repeated -- guest. -- recording that. Put that -- for the millions. Eric don't listen to all the yeah Eric don't -- all the idiots and adolescence at emailing to PFW. Patriots playbook is a good show it is for the smarter and more knowledgeable pats again. All I would rather slammed and butt naked with a porcupine and a -- Years ago -- down by the way you remember. Any steeler fans listening you all knock. That was setup job by the way is I was reading an email. Will you have I like masculine guys Brady used to remove walker leave for me. You're right that I heavily on the show -- bulk. Of the gang. Okay let's not -- out there or it. I don't always have a chance to China because of being worked to keep -- go that yes thank you keep I would had a chance on guard a year if the price is right. Albeit in in your neck of the woods to our rookies Albion and Florida for the USF can't. Where's my point."

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[1:39:54]" Thank you you very much of doing the national radio broadcast for. Chances that you -- Okay. The oldest you're not afraid from William should read this okay. Roundtable panel archer pats are playoff team hard to find money can't open your bleep and -- William buried what does that mean. Until but I should -- replacement on rusher that was addressed -- okay anyway. Just at Texas and off players in the NFL he's -- Vince Young wants to quit Ricky Williams smoke weed over and over Cedric Benson is heavily already does Mack brown -- to be an -- can't handle the NFL. Well as it honestly Rivers. That's tough to say I mean. Would you would you call. Guys like Steve -- Mike well he didn't know him by Mack brown -- people even Michael's you know. How about a guy like. -- all brought defensive back for the young of New York Giants as he is. Who wasn't an amateur I mean it we go up and down the list you're just gonna pick in your because you know your -- in Oklahoma fan which is fine. That's okay and and you know I don't I don't Monday in EU to listen anyway. All I know is that most of our players at least my knowledge most of our players don't carry glue guns to class or you know pick off players or you know shoot people in the dorms -- like that like you know local players have been accused of doing in the past. So that you want to bring up dirty laundry I can bring a dirty laundry. Of days ago. Boomer -- who met. In October and of course Oklahoma -- in the game. It. Any but I mean one of the few -- fans that would not be terribly unhappy if they went one and eleven but that one was over oh you can't let me. Here is week to participation injury report. Which is Adam. Just now out well for the Patriots and today. Sam Aiken and Benjamin Watson did not participate in practice with their respective knee injuries. Well limited participation from -- Eric Alexander Jabar Gaffney. Ellis Hobbs Randy Moss and Lewis Sanders. Everybody else full participation. In practice today. Of the regulars the from long practice today we will in the program. Little there like. It is. And also gives you if you just listen in to Patriots starting quarterback Matt Cassel if you first start. In any meaningful football game. Since 1999. And he gets his NFL starter debut this Sunday against the Jets obviously we know he filling in very big shoes. Question is is up for the task. Had a chance to hear from Matt Cassel. In the Patriots locker room this -- members of the Patriots media from earlier today. And will be back next Tuesday for an extradition of hatred play book writer Patriots."

[1:43:02]" Come on. AM. He's just word of encouragement go up there and execute and have fun win do do things we needed -- It's been a good scores been important to me for last four years and so he'll continue to -- important and I'll continue to Leno. We've known him for a support for guidance. On. Pressurized. Will once. Once you get to the field and actually it's business as usual it's more of the LI distractions that if you let it become a distraction it will be a distraction so. For me it's -- go home play ball as usual and try to have fun and realize that it is -- game -- the it's a fun game and you've been doing it for a long time go up there enjoy it. Will not watch a lot of TV and not read papers and just go up there and really study the game plan and focus on what I need to do. When it comes to football. You know it it's religious focus on football that there's going to be a lot of outside distractions is going to be a lot of people don't want your time right now. And really the focus on what's important and that's the help this team went through -- refuse. A lot of it definitely becomes an very valuable to get out there and have four starts under under your belt before -- third season and then. Given there and get that first one under my belt last week so. It it's excitement -- if we're going under the Jets not not just play well we're going on the and one. That would be the image usually you know I'm just going to go up there and I'm I'm going to do have done in the past and -- as far as I can put myself in good position to be successful -- And have fun. Remember. Well the -- long time ago but you know we we we lost the -- but it was in the third round playoffs and as -- I think we played well what we rushed the ball better so. It. I think the toughest job in football's. There's always be the starter because. Everybody looks to you for guidance of what -- out there and and and perform well. That's definitely -- but the second and definitely -- about a cornerback because at a moment's notice like it happened last week but he never anticipated and you open ever happens due to injury but it it comes up in this Camelot and you just have to be prepared. You know it doesn't to me it really doesn't make a huge difference we've been training and in the consciousness prepared we can we -- And it's the coaching staff can believe I couldn't execute Dolphins I wouldn't be here right now so. There's something be said about that and that that's what it is. Still some -- practice. You know it is it it is it is and it isn't it's one of those things as a team you just have to. If the rally in close ranks and and move on and unfortunately we all love -- but. The fact is he's not and we got to move on as a team we can't look back him. Open wish and do those things are a lot of other people -- don't we move on we have to get ready for this week. They're good defense you know they they have a great scheme -- disguise well. They've made some offseason. Acquisitions with pace and Jenkins and Tom -- is playing at the corner of the rookie position he's playing well right now and Revis and Rhodes is what top safeties in the league so we got our work cut off for us and their great defense and villa created. A lot of below a lot of problems for us hopefully not too many but you know we will will be -- but he. I don't really like to make comparisons myself and Tom Tom is who isn't using MVP of the league last year. And I am reliance on just going to go out and try to execute and play my game and whatever that might be we'll see it come Sunday ready. I'm hopeful we have a lot of strengths and you know that it really players that I only get into. Breaking down my game versus common analysts say -- he throws the ball better than me era through ball all right can run and do those kind of things. There were different quarterbacks and that's -- going to be -- we're going to go up there. And we're both going to try to do accomplish the same things which would -- wins. You're playing the best that is kind of the same as the -- this practice. Will there'll that are very similar to us in many ways but they're very different anyways so. It's one of those things where you have to go well neck and every week Q you play different deacons and get ready for different view so Kansas City was very different from what the Jets are going to be in. And while they're similar to what what we've seen in practice every day -- so there's a lot of differences that we have to prepare for. Definitely. I became a lot more popular after Sunday's game there's no doubt about that so. I think at a round 150 text messages and have the numbers I don't even know them. And my mom. And hope for a moment. I talked my vote -- and so. You know there's constant conversations between us and there the great support factor for me concern sportsman in the spotlight and they know of ups and downs of this game. So it's just it's on -- while I constantly on them. I. It. Not really you know just go out there and have fun. Here. It. -- Aram will both of us and our careers them again we face a little adversity and we can continue to push for in the community continue to. Go through those tough times with the same time one persevere and you get through it needed to time like this -- finally reached which you've been working so hard for it's all worth."

[1:49:07]" If you ever dreamed about it nine years."

[1:49:11]" Not really but it's. It's -- post answers the court that's gone and you know I'm here now on and I'm looking forward to. You know it is what it is there's going to be a lot of people that make predictions on the outside and you can't do anything control nobody can. -- the future nobody can say we're gonna win fifteen games or lose fifteen -- to do them all we can do as a team. Rallying gathered together and work hard and often without good performance on the there. I. It. -- argument by Carson. Obviously it is it is there alone -- in -- trophy winner in my computer I first met back in and year after I didn't coaches had to go that way so. It's one of those things where you can't really look back and Q what -- thing but I definitely anticipated games are there and it didn't happen but. But this -- appear enough so that all worked out. Prodi was very important for me really it was the only time that. I had to prove that I can play. NFL level that was really through the physical drills that put me through which was running. And throwing the ball and it it turned out pretty well for me at a good performance than -- sparks an interest."

[1:50:36]" It. -- rule. Continue to work part. You learn a lot from these different quarterbacks Carson from line learn from. Tom especially over the last Warriors and you start to take it. Little little bits and pieces for me to their games and try to. Use that your game and try to get better. I -- not. We. Well. You know it I was pretty surprised the Moscow life. With fell as much caused them a lot of people have written me off already and and then when the pitchers called is pretty happy it was a good. No it into the -- How would I describe it. Yeah you know it really hasn't been that big struggle for me it's going to end it worked -- and get ready when that opportunity comes in. And it's it's here now and -- I think it was going to take as long as it did know but in time. I went in at a greater education agency. Agree experience there and then I came here and I've learned -- the best the last four years so oh all all that bad."

[1:51:58]" We're feeling good as the summer wound down and you know we'll we'll -- have to battle which is fun for you -- we're concerned that maybe that would be. What was the unit in -- a game."

[1:52:10]" I was confident in power output in pre season and that's obviously evident when the coaching staff says we we trust -- the number two guy and and a lot of people don't see what goes voluntarily and can break down film and do that caused -- feedback from the coaches drill. And -- confident from from their feedback before it was a."

[1:52:30]" You're ticketed headed joy of -- playing -- this -- given that -- bars in New York when pretty went down there were cheering on his injury and wanted to see determined you know I'm pretty evident. Right if you will improve those -- the future."

[1:52:42]" I was just happy to do well enviable. -- for the team and it will go well in particular you're scoring drives and and when the game ultimately that's what it comes down through excellent quarterback can. I just can't understand for the life of me what people would cheer on somebody's hurt. I guess that's -- sick world sometimes Ria we're in."

[1:53:09]" There. It's always interesting to hear older players come back and talk have been in particular it was very bearing courage being in. -- originated Jeff come in and speak to the team actually get what you need him after practice and the situation was very similar to mine UN and the New York Giants or what's going to know what the time and goes down nobody's ever heard Jeff so. He goes and in the isn't -- Super Bowl. And it and it's happened throughout the history of the NFL on the predict anything Jones understand the people can be successful even though. They might not being well known. -- talked about playing that position -- the way it's yours. And and throw -- in the NFL williams' opportunity so. And it just goes to show you like you keep working hard and he put one foot from you know another you can have success and public speaking. Not."

[1:54:01]" Also I'm going to Ohio and I don't live there and gave him an advantage in next week I'm just happy to be here so I can help the ballclub."