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[7:26] ..." against the single wing formation. That Miami rent. I mean they put Ronnie Brown back there to take the of the direct snap. And he just jobs the Patriots up the middle. I know what's the"...
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[1:05:19] ..." the inability to -- recognized you know a single wing formation and Ronnie Brown and and then in not only to not recognize but then failed to adjust to it because they rented a couple of"...
[1:06:43] ..." inability to doctor recognized to adjust to -- direct snap to Ronnie Brown situation any. To do that six times. And really five of the six were successful four of the six with a 34"...
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[1:31:30] ..." but I don't think it was expected of him though it does JP Losman was a guy that's right. You know Trent Edwards last year -- actually the first game of the season -- sorry. The"...
[1:33:01] ..." Linebackers too many missed tackles too many missed Reeves specially on the Ronnie Brown runs. DB's why they consistently play ten yards off of the opposing wide receiver they were pretty -- yes. Coaching failure to"...
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[1:52]" At -- any game like we on that 43 to balk on Sunday on here julep that you normally. Many viewers those -- you aura you know familiar with the program normally you know on Tuesday. I -- Tuesday. While we kind of you know what we do we run through it just for the sake of nitpicking and trying to -- what could be better. What could be worked on areas of improvement things we like things we didn't like in particular about the previous week's game in which got a targeted in the big Tuesday's because quite frankly when you're in the midst of 21 game regular season win streak. -- just. Not a lot to complain about. I may be a little bit Everett. I don't know that we'll have to call it to rant rave Tuesday now I I don't know but predicting Tuesday obviously there are a lot of things. A lot of things on that we can get in. And I think it's a but will probably do is have personable. Make sure you know we email address web radio. Patriots dot com and email address POW progress web radio. At Patriots dot com let's -- he reaches telephone number is vitally alive for three W 482 Terry coat finally 543. Seven or eight -- reaches on the program bomb. Brian Lowe from Patriots today and of course the affair in a deal down low and load them down but. Com -- can join us. -- down. Down low -- them -- It. That's right. And load the seed. Exactly alright though he'll be -- at 3 o'clock our normal Tuesday. I have to admit I give you might nitpick I I had a lot to choose from bunker and I think we called -- But Kumble stood up to me as particularly. Shocking. That was out of character not only for the team but -- out of character. -- for the individuals involved. I just I have to admit I mean I'm still kind of go into it in my own bed thinking how the heck did this happen. And I'm sure you have probably tried rationalized that in your own mind is how the heck did this happen. And I think what we had was just in order. And complete total breakdown of everything on all -- in on these fans and the only thing that went well it was Ellis Hobbs in the kicking return game in the return game -- special teams and yet he was only able to set the franchise record because of all the steady head. Mean. -- like that generally making a luxury turn and a lot expect. So you know I don't even know -- you can call that a bright spot to be honest with you although he did look good when he was interminable. On but it was just it was a while now is what -- the biggest thing that I had a problem. Miller -- okay musher to victory and in our our email question that is going to have to do with one of them. Because it's subject we've talked about on this program in previous years. But we were in the midst of one. And I'm not about to suggest year. I'm not about -- suggest that were on the verge of all the details but I don't think now this team is still. Good enough to compete to -- to the win the division. Ultimately time will prove whether or not correct them but. I mean I don't know how you can go from basically being. You know fluke play or two away from being Super Bowl one year wings who -- one year and being a non playoff team the next with largely the same personnel. And in theory. Where you were. Really though that the of the worst golf and I'm Becky quick you've got younger and more athletic how can you be worse off. In. -- at pick number one and then I want you to share your -- obviously an -- Tuesday coach here with me unit -- web radio Patriots dot com on. Pick one pick the one thing. That bothered you the most about on and right off the bat. Pick one thing about Sunday that bothered you the most -- spent today. -- looking back on not only this game but you know the 21 games streak in in in some things leading up to the events Sunday. And then starting tomorrow. That. Behind us and we got a bye week to worry about able probable with a normally I'm biweekly -- chance to. And -- an opportunity to look around with -- all the things around the league. -- a look at things within the division. Now that the Patriots apparently are in a bit of -- Oval race -- with Buffalo will play twice this year but we'll we'll take a look at in the within the division and -- in the conference in particular. During the bye week here -- of course next week will look. Begin to catch -- on the of the pats and how they might fare against the interest 49ers when their own right a little bit of a surprise off to a two and one start. Anyway you gotta pick one thing that really bothered use the most about Sunday. -- nit pick of the week here on the big Tuesday and it's in the web radio at Patriot -- On and I got -- that aren't going to share with -- it might be the same as you but in even if -- is -- share with me anyway. Please do hum. Number one. Has to be the fact that the Patriots. Were ultimately rendered defenseless against the single wing formation. That Miami rent. I mean they put Ronnie Brown back there to take the of the direct snap. And he just jobs the Patriots up the middle. I know what's the linebacker Weston wood and linebackers I'm on the particular -- It was just it was just my you does boggle -- and then here coach Belichick say in yesterday's. News conference that they had practiced that. Because they kind of expected from the Jets and -- run that with Washington before in the past so they actually practiced that in it. Out there on the field look completely and totally. Clueless I'd just blew me away like they practiced at. They were -- maybe the Miami could run and yet they were clueless on Sunday -- left. -- it was not standing -- It's a throwback to. -- you know. I'm nineteen. Thirties forties and fifties football one team -- single wing formations they put their best athlete in particular. At the quote on quote quarterback position. You know put him in a shotgun direct net run with a ball. Very simple as nothing fancy about it. Or what the Miami Dolphins it was as they -- Atlanta overload overloaded line of scrimmage by boat and putting both tackles on the same line overload one side. In an effort to get your best blockers in front your best athlete. And they just -- the Patriots I was funded by the simplicity. Of the play and the formation and the ineptitude. That the Patriots showed in the spending. Darned. What do they do it. -- Absolutely. Stunned I don't know any other way to say it. So that that's my chief. Football if you will nitpick. Because they just seemed ill prepared. And you have not been able to say that about the Patriots. Very often if at all. Under this coaching regime. In 2000. The one thing. That you have. The one thing that you always been -- in the one -- and you've been able to bring. But the Patriots have brought to the table is the fact that this team is always prepared for its opponent. They they -- The film study the important game plan as well as any team may be ever has in the history of the modern NFL. That you could put you know the mortgage. And yet this week they were his -- prepared is I have ever seen the Patriots. Now. I'm wondering. If it was more so the Patriots being on prepared. Or maybe it was a little bit you know how the Dolphins this order of threw caution to the -- control of the with a game plan this week and even works as we really don't have details to lose. In on this season's pretty much a wash and we know. I have to admit I like that swashbuckling. Cavalier attitude at Miami showed like hey we're gonna run the stuff it hasn't on doing it. Maybe we get hasn't successful going to do it differently we're going to do it our way we're going to dictate to you and I think that's one thing that bothered me the most that is that the Dolphins. Imposed their will on this football team. And usually it's the other way around that's why this is a shocking. Change. Of character. For the team the program this organization. You know the football club that everything -- shocking turn of events. I don't again pretend to believe that it is signaling a downward spiral. Although I guess like that earlier. It's possible that the next few weeks could you know in the -- them but I don't believe we're headed that direction. You know I think we'll realize that that maybe this is just a blip on the radar screen. And that potentially. You will see this team get help the her. In a hurry because of the overall strength of schedule that they have which is not terribly strong. You know again time will tell that as well on him -- is reluctant to once tartan. In Buffalo's three now he's going to play them twice the thing that really bothers me about on these laws and this isn't necessarily nitpick but. -- that really bothers them the -- the fact that it came in the division. Tonight you're really behind the eight ball when you go down play in Miami in December. -- once again. You need to when they get you one and one of the division. It's good that you won on the road in all. At the Jets but you lost at home team that you should have beaten. You're expected to beat and you didn't do for whatever reason. Whether you're ill prepared or the other team just threw caution of the win and and blow you away with the game plan and you didn't. Get the job done and I think that's kind of what -- has all the most the other nit pick that I want to share here with you in the another question that I have fear that I had I'd love for -- answer blow. Today is our question of the day here web radio Patriots dot com. The Boston newspapers in particular the heralded written over the last few days about. You know those comments from Ellis Hobbs in particular you probably know weren't going with a about how though the fans were booing and and you guys have talked a little bit about that. But do you feel as if Patriot fans are spoiled. I I what you did it. I don't want you to give me what you think everybody else thinks I want to know what you personally think. What do you personally think are used boiled. By the Patriots one of six at the last several years. Could it be that the fans were well I mean I have to admit I I I fully expected. When the game was over I fully expect the fans to boo and maybe I'm conditioned to little bit more. I can't that I was terribly surprised by it. Then again and hasn't I mean you know I remember when fans used the -- regular. Girl. And you probably written many of you probably remember that as well. Com -- some of the younger players on this team and in this organization. That was. That was a new experience. Hobbs being one of the I'm not entirely surprised that they seemed to be taken aback by that. But I think the smart player. On the east and the veteran player realizes that. My guess. Would be calm. They they did it that you know you're only as good as your last game. And so you know that probably just choose not to calm stating publicly about a but the younger players and something. And so -- it's simple question do you personally believe that Patriot fans are spoiled. And it might that is there's no doubt. That's an absolute unequivocal yes Patriots fans are spoiled rotten. Brats. For the most part. Some of you are spoiled by -- that I consider you know our group here. Those -- either listen this program what regularly in tune in Patriots dot com radio and contributed PFW in progress and all the here. I consider us you know -- the hardcore you know pretty much. We really want to Patriots picks we want to talk about the news that team is making I would like to have fun with -- but. We do some interesting things your column around the football program but is all about the football team here. And I would say. Some of you undoubtedly are spoiled by the success. Maybe you're even willing to say that. Hey John I've been spoiled by the team. And frankly I have a right to -- I pay a lot of money or what have you end. Old there you go that's how I feel about it okay that's fine I would love to hear that point of view if one exists out there. If you find the fact that the fans and thousands of them that remaining in the stands at the in the game if you find what they did detestable. Classless. Clueless. That's fine too I'd like to hear them. That'll ambivalent about it I thought it odd yet I expected it because I remember how Patriots -- have been through the decades. It was odd because we haven't heard it for a while. And people don't realize that you know. Things change. People changed teams changed personnel changes. Com nothing ever stays the same this team this organization has put up. A remarkable Lee consistently. Strong numbers and effort. Throughout the course of this decade. And even if they fall flat on their face this year and next there's no doubt in my mind the Patriots are still the team of the decade. Nobody else is going to top that at least in this particular decade. And I don't think that's going to happen I still think they've got a few years left in this run. That my own personal opinion. But you know we all little how the other half lived on on. And I guess that's the that was the most interesting part of that I didn't like it and nobody had any on here on Sunday there's no doubt about that but. Dot com it was just an interesting observation. In in in character in human interest and everything else to see that you know want. They love you one minute but when you always -- they're gonna they're going to hate on him the next. That unfair. I'm undoubtedly would say that is on there. Some fans -- it is unfair. All I don't necessarily think that -- fans would say that I just some bands that's unfair others who. You know have a higher the sense of expectation. Maybe those who you don't pay a lot of money after all a professional game it's an expensive sport. These guys make a lot of money if they don't put up an effort like that I if I put up whenever I got on the job on one particular day you know I could get my -- can't well it's true. As opposed to opening -- what you do for letting. I suppose that's true. But you can't fire. You know 53 players. I only plays ready to -- coach Belichick just yet. I actually. Think. That I have a solution. I don't know that it would cure all the problems in fact. I will admit right here that it could create more problems than his words but I kind of feel like you need a little on some. You know you need a little jumpstart it will kicked you little. Something to help give the team an edge and you know I've talked so often. And and these guys team and the media round today talks often about this team creating their own age. Their own. Motivation. This team is good -- put an annual bolder on the shoulder. And we thought that may be a guy like Joey Porter thank you Joey and opened his mouth last week would you know certainly be enough. And the fact that most. And national media especially outside of this region continues to. Downplay the Patriots and say that their dawn and that you know they're not good even -- the division they may not get into the playoffs this year because of the laws of Tom Brady. With all that that might be enough. What I think that this Sunday's game will show you is that these guys these players on this team don't look at it like that. These players I feel like if if if they get hit over the head by the same thing often enough. That I think that they'll build grouped together the band together as Brothers or what have you his teammate and the come together and play for the cause and and do well. But I think when you get hit over the head. So much. After a while you become numb to at all. And I'm wondering if maybe this team failed to seize the emotional opportunity. Presented to it. Through the dis respecting in the media. And through the words of Joey Porter last week in his -- like here we go again. No big deal let's just Jordan do our job and they really didn't get the emotional charge. That they've received in the past from similar. Situation. What do you what do you think about that particular. Accurate inaccurate I just -- the team took advantage of the situation that presented it to their last week. So because of that I think this team does need a little bit above all the shake up. I think -- one thing that would cure. Some of the ill right now if of course there are still feels to be cured. As they've looked at the videotape over the last couple of days this team I think somebody should lose their job. Cut somebody kick amount. For. Bring them audience. Of the that would cause there're a -- Caused players to be on their toes cause players to be sitting on the edge of their seat. Cause players to be looking over their shoulders like oh what's he gonna do next. Just a little something to create. On certainty. Apprehension. You know. Even a little stress if you will. Somebody get the heart rate pounded a little bit some of them had to get guys operate with a sense of urgency not only on the game day but in their every day practice effort. And -- go back to -- we talk about two weeks ago and our opening week here. I think if they can make a deal for Jeff Garcia they should do. You know this isn't this is not meant as being disrespectful. To Matt Cassel. I they will realize that you don't Tom Brady was only five and three in his first eight darts. As a Patriot quarterback okay so let's keep that in mind as we look at Matt Cassell who's now one and one. Tom Brady did not start all. Like the Tom Brady we know now. But then again. We didn't think that the team was really built to go anywhere in 2001 did we. This team is built to go somewhere. This team as I said earlier was only up a fluke play away from Britain from being another four times a bowl champ in the last seven years. This team still has the pieces of the puzzle in place. And I think I saw enough on Sunday. Some of the -- the cast ole miss. And trying to bring the team back I mean they were bad throws way off the mark. Fact is is that the book I'm Matt Cassel is that when he releases the ball drop. Because he has at least two -- three -- every game batted down the line of scrimmage. And bring in somebody would fix when I'm saying is that a veteran presence someone in and -- to what about the the team on and progressing here but. This -- a little bit about Josh mcdaniels. You know and the quarterback not recognized in this have they not worked with Matt Cassel went to improve his. Arm angle so he doesn't. Had -- like get batted down the line of scrimmage he comes in local. He's a big boy he should be able to get over the top of these guys. -- I I is Jeff Garcia the answer may -- not. But the one thing another Jeff Garcia heads. Is he's got veteran experience. He's -- play making ability. He generally seems to. Be respected around the league although. Normally you but it is the one thing that bothers me is that he seems to have a short stay in a month ago. Penalties because teams keep finding better options than him. It is a great way for either a him to go out on a high note because he's got a team year in a -- on the built to win now. Or he's got a chance now to rehab his. Quote unquote playing -- If he's hoping to work for another couple years after -- You know the Patriots are going to have to look for the backup quarterback next year anyway -- just basically renting the guy for the rest of the year as they would -- with Matt -- I mean keep in mind numbing canceled it is history this deal he won't be back next year. He's banking on having this opportunity propelled him to a starting job somewhere else in the NFL it won't be year. And he won't stay here for the same 300000 dollars a year watery as he's making as a back up either and know what I blame it. The Patriots will be in the market for backup next year. And maybe Kevin O'Connell will move into that role maybe they'll make -- and maybe they'll you know bring up you know Gutierrez and they'll draft a quarterback an extra maybe now. You know but that's next year. What I'm saying is that you know you've you've got. A perfect scenario here what could you give Jeff Garcia for a 23 of four. Patriots. Make it -- stockpiling picks in those rounds for things -- like this. Now I realize that you know the common. Argument against them elected is well he wouldn't have enough time to come in and in learn the playbook. And he wouldn't how effective could EP. You know when guys like Cassel and in in O'Connell and in in its -- is no the playbook and yet we get out of them what we get out while okay that probably has some validity to. You know I heard somebody and the on the the radio locally here earlier today that the well look at Brett Favre and what he's doing with the Jets. And you know you we are you know he's basically six weeks and the process as the Jets quarterback and he still has -- 100% of the play book that's fine. -- I got to place for -- and Randy Moss deep and Wes Welker short. Do you go out and denial. -- and the ball off to the running back there's another all here's another scramble. Because he can do it now I think Matt Cassell probably has an ability to that too but does this is what Jeff Garcia has made his name. And his reputation. He's a mobile quarterback that can make things. He's a veteran. He has the ability to take a team on his shoulders and move him down the field I think you would command instant respect in the -- I think you would if your if you if you think. If you think that Randy Moss is frustrated and -- like it seemed like everybody else in the football world right now and -- that he's. On the verge of happening or going back to -- old -- This I believe. Was something to this effect would -- that. Because everybody understands as a short term. Project. And it would it would just it would -- it would just it would inject -- little things up. Thought I ride my wrong here I need to hear from him web radio at Patriots dot com. And the total number -- wait 543. Heavily for 82. -- several things on the agenda today. -- nit pick of the week pick one. On -- on what bothered you the Morrow. One mother -- the moan. About Sunday's debacle. -- that's that's number one. Number two are Patriot fans spoiled. Are they truly. Spoiled. In the truest sense of the -- That's number two number three. What do you think of my idea about how to inject a little energy. In the locker room and the football. You either bring -- Gallagher you or you caught somebody. I -- you know who would you cut after last week's performance any cancer of the hold MTV -- not that's not fair. Look at it from an analytical point -- you look at the performances that were put out on the field who would you cuts. You either add somebody or you cut somebody did grab. Their attention you grab him by the shirt collar and you shaken to a three times a little. We got them going on here it's time to pay. Attention. So what do you think the eagles' web radio at Patriots dot com 5 wait 543. W 482. Give me a lot to chew on -- will look at some of the emails. That you've sent in over the last twenty minutes is so. Law so we'll -- some of the emails that we didn't get to from PFW in progress earlier today. And Brian blow from papers today and we joining us now number two righted said the --"
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