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[0:00]" Let's go -- no doubt about it out of all. It's Patriots playbook government property that is all the right things that seven -- Patriots playbook. Breaking down less on these game yeah go ahead and -- it -- because of the fact they're going to vastly over the top neck and he didn't want to go bought. 53 completed they've won fair and the rest of the 2008 NFL he goes back combat on that they want them. From here and some of the ones that -- between even and you want to break even if you want right now."
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[0:41]" Patriots playbook for Wednesday at right here on Patriots dot com radio John -- with him and certainly welcome to book. Bring back into the fold my friend from PFW once again Mike what's happening did anything good not too much today John had a little bit of a quiet locker room couple players not there no movement -- today you'll be tomorrow. Nobody -- and easily without our go to guys that. So nothing else talk about it that are on fourth -- it's nice guy animals you can discuss. It's when you know what -- that's actually pretty good enemies of you because. Yeah I -- lost in all of the you know the controversy if you will the story surrounding Brady and everything else about this football teams -- is now ski. -- is. I think put himself right at the top of the list perhaps in the entire NFL amongst kickers."
[1:30]" Yeah -- consistent player on the team the three weeks he's kicked all illegal. He's been fantastic on cut back he's really helped the return coverage game when it was the opposing team can do -- the battle of field position at the very least has been one. Other areas obviously there are some problems that and talk about them serves though there are some other issues get into but he's been one of the lone bright spot right now -- yeah no doubt about that night. I you know you can't get over the fact that his booming kicks against the Jets. Give them great field position situation as a major factor in. In winning a cup audio is over that would have been one gains by kicker in the long long time yeah. Yeah I touchback. It all for -- field goal mean he dominated that game and that -- kind of the perfect blueprint when you think about it. To keep the -- and getting any returns they started every drive from their own twenty yard line pretty much. And it's hard out here you have Brett Favre back there. It's hard to go eighty yards every time. What do you think about them. You know his I guess so farmer. Not being able to step in and KK -- we -- considering it's a real pressure -- coming busy busy. -- he's still I mean are you of the opinion that that he could do that if given the year you give an effort to think big kick in a playoff game in San Diego years ago I mean I remember him -- and they won. And I think when you think about it the all our -- on the green. Physical back that jet skiing on the winning team buys certain amount point now granted I felt they dominated game but the final point differential was not. Reflective on the scoreboard -- it all or the local team -- won the first quarter to come back and I think they all are big now. For him personally he has not been in position Murray had to make a big field goal in a playoff game like in Adam Vinatieri about the Indy okay -- I think it was 5. In San Diego in the shop the charges was a pretty hectic for a young player at the time you thought it was over five now another thirty years and years and -- here. Though had to deal and I'm confused how my year's girl puzzle okay completely idiotic or you don't you don't they'll run together yet -- a -- do a point two point nine like him at. But he had in the past and and I think you know one of the glaring things we thought we thought last year in this have a bull's eye when they kick that field goal. On fourth and long. And we don't know talking about when he went for and it they chucked in into the end zone and it didn't work -- people thought and maybe in conference he. In ninety independently look at it you know not not quite sure what to make it -- bill but I think that you have tremendous confidence in him and I don't think that issue right now. No it is in the with the way he's doing that that confidence is not running short or even now."
[4:09]" Well I think it's kind of interesting to note that I mean last year called during the bye week. A lot of things going on the team was in the midst of -- winning streak and there was still a lot of buzz and now the bye week. As we've stated a few times already. It becomes -- at a good time for this team as a gives them a chance for equality does have a chance to sit and stew for a week based on what happened last Sunday. It will also allow potentially Agassi and other bumps and bruises. But maybe more to it to heal but maybe more so wounded psyche to heal up just a little bit so -- a good time but it's just it's been. It's been dead right you know in in more ways than just you know being quiet I think with -- football team right now and I just I find the whole thing just. Bizarre. Simple because of the buzz that this team has created for itself and because of itself over the last several years while."
[4:58]" Along that thing about the by now -- opponent in two weeks at a lot of so they could use extra time and again opted bead on him and sisco and plus like you at the kind of -- an open back in. I think you have to find ways of balance both he would -- both at some point in the beginning of this -- as the target of the -- going to be out. And maybe starting over the weekend against San Francisco preparation whereas it would normally be going to walk through of the game coming up. Instead they definitely got a couple of extra days at forty niners. Now I don't think the 49ers are great team and their team on the rise to some degree it -- one right now they're playing pretty good football teeth you'll Altman -- his job. Quarterback Frank Gore came up big game last weekend. This could be a tough game in their own backyard. -- I think the pats going to need that extra time to prepare and luckily with the two weeks off at. What."
[5:50]" There's so many different things that we're going to get into today not least which would be you know certainly things with Patriots but. I think the one thing that you know as I've you know done mine mine you know beautiful homework I guess around. Several that might favor web sites and in media outlets and such as he would people buzzing about this football team and I came across something. That you find an interest in my because I know you kind of compiled some of the stuff for Patriots dot com we do the you know -- splits every day. And -- came across this item from ESPN. That. Actually took up I think it was half a dozen different instances. Of the individual teams in the NFL and ask fans in their sports nation poll asked fans to vote. Panic or patients. With these six particular team did you see them by any chance know okay. And in dot com it was on espn.com I certainly didn't ethical value yeah I had -- search for a little bit and and I actually don't have it up right now does have a couple notes written out. But. The one thing that I wanted to do here -- today go to start out the program. He has offered to our listeners web radio pat Patriots dot com. Also the telephone number five -- five point 37482. Very simple question today in terms of our our question of the day. Do you preach show patience or do you push the panic button. With a Patriots concerned after three weeks and tell me why. You vote the way you do. Panic or patience with the nor Patriots now. You know you can obviously go on -- you know if you're able to find the serving his legacy it. It wasn't ready. And done yell. -- and figure out you know which was sports nations voting right now but I I have the numbers as of about half an hour about -- a bit but. I just be curious to know right off the top your head. What you think what's your initial gut reaction. You know considering everything that we've gone through through three weeks and it's been considerable. Would you is it time to push the panic button."
[7:54]" Or do you. Preach patience here where the Patriots are concerned. I've preached hate on because you know working with the quarterback with limited experience in and get the reps at at the time in this. System in actual NFL gains before we can fully judge capability in his -- We need a little bit more than two yards and more than half the game -- I need you will have more applicable Italian and we had. And -- and now there had been an enclosed which I was back from a player with no parents like him. He always happen -- chief game but he played well I thought he was being attacked in Jets. And me personally I thought he was terrible Sunday in Miami now. Keep in mind he's not the reason they lost the game but he's one of the many players who underperformed afternoon he was not very good at all though US -- peak value I say patience because he's only had two art and it's that third week of the season. I can't push the panic button. In week three unless number one team is a laundry. Because at that point it's almost nearly statistically impossible to get to a Superbowl and win 1 Ontario north and when -- done it. In a few teams have done it go into the giant that lesser known to. But now what team in auto three and when the Superbowl that and -- that weighs on your soul is a zero victory. Number two if you have been devastating injury at that point that changed the course of the season but we got that a week one. Now we have a new quarterback in there because Tom Brady. That has changed things but again that was -- one -- two weeks later it's now week for coming up at the bye week you have to. Expect impatient -- the biggest concern I would have is that -- getting pushed around like it did on Sunday. That concern because we saw that the pre season. We've pretty much blamed it on Vanilla coverages and I'll play calling while it wasn't an on Sunday it was bad. Flat out bad and that has changed if that doesn't change in -- week three -- in agony at that and it."
[9:45]" Sense to me -- like you know you know you could at least make case for pushing the panic button now with -- with -- at least the -- is concerned I. I don't tend to agree in terms of the them they'll preaching patience. Matt Cassel concern although yesterday here on the program. I you know I came up with a couple things that I thought that would inject some life into the team a little I thought that maybe this team was ready to have a little. Energy level emotional little just a little something something if you will. Injected into it that a couple ways you can do it number one cut somebody. That. Plain and -- just cut somebody take somebody and that's established that hasn't been getting the job done. In the clubhouse -- veteran presence in particular and say that's it you're done thank you very much or. I've been an advocate of for giving Jeff Garcia -- especially you can get him for nothing and and I thought that it would be just enough to shake things up. And just to get guys thinking differently or maybe looking over the shoulders because you just want to make -- the complacency doesn't it and it is frankly. Such a loss for words for Sunday's. Game and I'm running short and really call again. Events let's say and it's at a loss for words that -- the navy what was hurting the Citadel it was complacent because of Joey Porter opener in his -- Can't get the Patriots emotions running a little bit what."
[11:02]" Can't. Well I mean that's that's only goes so far John I mean at the end of the day if Miami's they're running a spread offense that you keep it can't cover over the middle. I don't care what to a report -- part of you are now I don't know quite good to flat out -- somebody just make a point. I would bring people -- if I think they're going to help the team win -- somebody needs to be put I don't think Matt -- really needs to be pushed. By having Jeff Garcia committed to ticket he naps and try out outdated they complacent as part I would go to player if he's dog and it. If somebody is not give me a 100% that I may bring in a couple of guys put -- say hey you know what you can be your play tomorrow. We could sign this guy you could be out here -- on the unemployment line again but that's his -- he's out there trying hard is no doubt about that he's trying to make the plays. He does not have the period. And maybe -- have the talent has time Brady doesn't -- all established that in time breed the two time equivalent BP to say that somebody's not counted him resided in."
[11:57]" No no no absolutely not but here's what I thought about -- your -- he hasn't done poorly. It would seem to me that and again just based on -- you know my observations of him in the first couple weeks here. It seems to me that he's checking off in the east on the safety room. And I don't -- there if that's by design. If the coaches are insisting that he -- a little bit more conservative. Or if match just afraid to pull the trigger on shall we say a deeper route I think that's something. That have to happen for the team he's got to. Play a little bit more that swashbuckling. Let's you know. In our ears back and go type of attitude because this team all -- is predicated on that kind of loss of."
[12:38]" Well I have a couple is looking at that in part of the promise teams trying to take -- months out of the game now. And the reason they're going to do it Mac as well because the greater chance that -- maybe trying to force something and a double coverage than there would be time great but as he he threw a couple of weeks Matt Cassel. Is willing to take the check check down or Seaver and or somebody else who is open. On the flip side that I -- much protection up front Cassel is pressure all day on Sunday -- not have to kinda drop back pass. There's no way you can run a 2530 yards and if you don't have more than three seconds to throw the ball. That part of prompt do. It is going to happen with the deep and gives -- a time though I -- and again always it's a combination of things out much like bill. But I think they were in place and that came on I knew they weren't even trying to go deep I agree with you'll under percent on that. Every now they -- tickets. You have to write something bring in an extra tight in the blocked -- and protection up front but do somethin' to -- it out. And I thought last week was the perfect opportunity against -- into the league ranked dead last in the past."
[13:37]" That's for the that that -- I keep coming back to. And I'm still shaken my it's my head about you know three days after the fact is that in Miami -- so poorly rated special of the secondary in the Patriots. Just could not find a way to take advantage of that and I'm still trying to figure how the -- that happened I you know -- by the way you -- a good point and that I had a couple of email -- suggestion on the show yesterday. That how come it seems like the offensive line is getting off here when. Nobody's ever said they should get often Franklin and the the offensive line misses some of the athletic schism. And maybe the toughness of Stephen Neal."
[14:12]" I agree to help particularly on screenplays that you really need athletic conference alignment degree screen. And had guys can get up the field -- a lot but at the end of the day comes got to protect the quarterback and if you're going to take chances deep you need more than two with three seconds throw now. I don't know the lines getting off too easily here because there are a lot of people who are still pretty ticked off over the Superbowl. And how the line played and that day that's an offensive line John and three players of the Provo. Didn't and evidently like all know I am -- now like -- like in the biggest game of the season and had bet that does not that well a lot of people and probably does at well at them as unity."
[14:48]" Well again I guess it it it it it Bears watching but I like you said I I think that they're still struggling to find some continuity. I think we all know that the opens one is the one part of this football team when you know this team. On any team released by the plays football at that needs to have a little chemistry little continuity amongst in him when you don't have that. It becomes more more difficult to to be effective offensively."
[15:14]" Is not just. Billy Yates had better play you know -- think Mankins has played particularly well not what -- him get over -- currently he had his in the tackles have been those though at this point season as a combined team after. You really have to deal -- going to go forward now NCAA has been there for a couple weeks I think he's an okay. There there have been some plays on screens or he's -- a real nice job adults -- praised him for that but. Over the course of maybe another 45 weeks I think when you overexposed certain players you get her. There -- players who fit roles perfectly and each Redick and then beyond that it only comes back to bite you -- Jabar Gaffney is another one where he's a good. Number of or is he very may be out there -- big plays a game but not as a number three. Maybe taken a third of the passes and academic and or anybody but I think when -- over those players it does Richmond and eventually at some point yeah."
[16:06]" That's true you know I figured it probably could and so you know the offensive line has got to be an issue. I think it's. You know. Tight -- we haven't had a -- Benjamin Watson at least until this last week and magazine and even some -- I was completely healthy there and David Thomas missed all of last year. And so when you think about it and you try to you know almost go man to man on this particular era item. Hard on this agenda of what's wrong -- this football team you can kind of see where that you know. Lacking consistency if not outstanding performance where this team could be you know -- and maybe some reasons behind this team is failing to hit on all cylinders. Hey we ask them power rankings by the way -- I don't usually on the power rankings yeah only only only because I think that -- only does that like opinion and that's."
[16:52]" Well we gotta clean up my friend differences in his Vickers his weekly ranking NFL dot com right number one -- doubt yeah number two Padilla to Murton number three Philadelphia who won. And he -- number of war and ask if we agree with -- the Buffalo -- yeah I saw that that was on them. Which which -- always -- is -- and -- originally going to build -- come right yeah absolutely you know pitcher by the way not in the top twelve no and they -- the top twelve last week and I got together and now the emblem. Right he kept him in the middle the pack this week which frankly was a little bit of a surprise to me yeah that's old now if you compliment -- packets line."
[17:30]" Yeah yeah I would think so I thought they were toppled team a week ago I don't know they are now. Based on just a three week snapshot I would certainly you know tend to agree with that. You know. I'm not seeing it or Buffalo's concern I mean I realize that the bills. -- three -- I realized the bills have got in improved it. Defensive numbers overall. I don't think they've allowed yet 300 yards total offense now game. To any of their opponents yet so you know I think it's all it'll -- in the right direction that there at least effective enough. On offense but are are they the fourth best team in the NFL well. I based on what."
[18:09]" Really literally five undefeated teams. It Dallas New York Buffalo ten in Denver now I think dinners the most fraudulent ball -- going oh and yeah no degree heat and terrible data in. That beneficiaries of two very fortuitous call. So they could very easily be one into until they stop somebody that's not alas that's -- to Patriots right there. But it doesn't to -- all -- at the Reno. On points by people all the could not stop anybody and it came back to -- and finished 97. Now. I think that reserves front and he has doing it with all the fans. How much longer -- Kerry Collins. -- and now Kerry Collins is a serviceable backup I don't know if that -- going to be good enough. Down the stretch then. You know. Yes I probably put Buffalo the top four now. Trent Edwards and -- particularly down the stretch in game where in all of it on PFW in progress yesterday. He's so little bit of that mock you know in the fourth quarter right -- did you definitely against Oakland yeah that is in fourth quarter point to win that game. I mean that that you really want to that's -- we need to hear from Mecca. If you get to a team like back -- neck and rally back from ten point fourth quarter deficit for example could he do that always seeing -- now Trent Edwards. And I always agree with Billy being a much better team than their record shows it to one. I -- eight ages. They overwhelmed there. 88 a steroid I would -- has -- and a -- doesn't -- differences that yeah the only -- offensive effort that it happens against thousand doubt excellent point. It's hard to argue between you know you could argue between Dallas and New York Giants -- it be against the Bengals pulled out in the and I thought -- it was a little bit of a let down and -- it looked quite as quick as they did the week before. And an -- not very good either and -- though. Yet who are going to play in the top four over over Buffalo would you put tennis yet there would you put green day Green Bay at 21 arm or. Or now Pittsburgh with -- we don't know his future's going to be. Carolina. No I don't think so maybe you could take a hot team and I used -- because the third week but Washington has won two -- 21 now. Do you camel points and good ball. -- you watched in Mosul the do. He can be based on trends if you see a team moving in the right direction you meet in the put them higher even if the team has the record but it may be losing a couple of games. He attended the Tenet and the B I don't know like Green Bay -- and beat by now in Pittsburgh is getting beat up by -- They drop and a victory Green Bay went from -- Kevin Pittsburgh who sit."
[20:54]" He you know again I try not to get too caught up in. How much a team moves up or down week to week -- Inca will realize it's you know it's pure conjecture here but at the same time though it's interesting to see trends. And it's interesting to see what others who were well thought of in this particular business think of you and other teams. And I kind of tend to feel like -- least early in the season. Teamed -- the top get a little bit over rated. Not an all cases because right now on the Dallas Cowboys probably the best overall team in the NFL but Dallas still got some work to do defense. There's not a complete team in the league at all right now. Everybody still has some work to do some obviously more so than others but. I I just. You know why would you why wouldn't you why would you put Buffalo in in a position where they would be in the top 45 because there's only five undefeated teams overall they haven't been beaten yet in -- pitches to three weeks snapshot we're talking about and they probably deserved to be either but to me. You know from what I've seen. The clips that I've seen the bills I actually tried to watch a little bit of their stuff on in a film that would this week to so. I get a better sense of maybe what the Patriots were actually going to go up against this year. -- I'm still. I see a team that seems a little tighter a little bit more disciplined. And I see a team that may be knows. What they need to do and what is expected of them by Dick Jauron but. I don't see a whole lot of flash and I certainly don't see. Two media personnel groupings that are vastly given what we -- a year ago."
[22:24]" Right and I think when you go back to power rankings you want to start with the undefeated team. And then you take the next best and -- anybody can crack that group ammonium defeated if there's somebody who is better than ever -- Sudden death and that night doing that that's like Philly is -- to people outside Philly is so -- There's lot people think there is a very good football team and yeah I'm not physically on that bandwagon but."
[22:46]" No but it it's hard to argue it is based on what we've seen them on the field and and I think the perception is I think a lot of times when you have a quarterback. Who sort of surpasses. The game if you will and Donovan McNabb is kind of return to form just a little I think that as a -- to all inflate your overall value. Yeah -- agree that. It's certainly our potential more so yeah performance by via I would agree that. Mike -- with a here inside the play book today as we roll along on Wednesday don't forget. A web radio at Patriots dot com email address our question of the day panic or patients. Which -- are you pushing for the Patriots and tell us why. UC panic or patience with the Patriots are concerned after three weeks going into the bye week that's that's number one. Number two there's a ton of other NFL news today and we be remiss of week. If we didn't get you know jump on a little bit this because a lot of it very interesting not the least of which the fact. Is that somehow some way. Somebody got smart and Detroit decided to like both Matt Millen because the team president and CEO of the of the alliance is finally. Golf on it to me that's probably the the lead story in the entire league for released today anyway."
[23:57]" Yet we were talking about that on the pre owned houses along with only spots draft pick in the failure is over here sign an extension. In 2005 through 2010. So I mean he still was good for what a couple of more years after this one -- on him and I guess. Based on what I've been able to read it's unclear whether he was fired or he was asked to resign. But at least he's out. We need the re -- among -- your agent right and there's already some conjecture that he could end up somewhere else in the NFL perhaps for the team on the west coast and all kinds of things going out of them making a coach pat yeah I wondered though. Why now. And I don't know what you guys talked about early today but why now as opposed to. Earlier. When this team was an NFL worst 31 and 84 since he became GM in 2001 yet analytical broke the Camel's back here. -- they had these funny evening the last three or four years yeah I don't know that the added a vice chairman bill Ford I think it is legalized it come out publicly a couple of days ago and says hey. If I had the authority I'd fire the guy yet but head and everybody said that in Detroit."