Patriots Playbook - 10/14/2008

Tue, 14 Oct 2008

Listen to this edition of the Patriots Playbook as John Rooke breaks down the Patriots loss to the Chargers. Brian Lowe will also be dropping by th studio to discuss the loss.

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Play from 6:26[6:26] ..." right time fit into the right mold. But he was abused by Jamal Williams. Up used -- and on the goal line stand the completely turn the game around in the third quarter as we all"...

Play from 7:14[7:14] ..." every step foot ball because he's not looking you. That's exactly what Jamal Williams did -- but he. He ducked the -- And -- play. An amazing to me how a team in the NFL --"...

Play from 33:28[33:28] ..." Sammy Morris run for no gain that was the play in which Jamal Williams blew -- game open at center. Cassell incompletion Cassell act. The Elias sports bureau these of course for the stat gods. Of"...

Play from 54:34[54:34] ..." yeah and get an offensive line get blown. Off the ball by Jamal Williams. That was one -- the most embarrassed and what is I think I've seen in a long time I feel for a"...

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Play from 1:36:37[1:36:37] ..." but if he doesn't last -- tired at the cornerback Ellis Hobbs. Lewis Sanders and the two rookies will -- And you know it's not great quality. It's not great depth. Not -- experience I mean"...

Play from 1:42:10[1:42:10] ..." is why I have in mind do you think the injury the Tank Williams was bigger than we think."...

Play from 1:42:45[1:42:45] ..." game like Sunday night and Antonio Gates that would have been eight Tank Williams game on you figure you know again -- What do you know Dallas Clark plays against Indianapolis those days that would of"...

Play from 1:51:06[1:51:06] ..." and I made the common in the opening our Brian in the Jamal Williams. And taking. -- was one of the more embarrassing plays -- ever seen from Dolphins have -- and long time yet he"...

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Play from 0:42[0:42]" Everybody right here on Patriots dot com radio my name is John rook and I -- the inning upon. Who you. Report it was either very good weekend or it wasn't a good weekend. I just told Gary that it frankly I think this is just. This is just nature's way of evening things out because you know. We've added real good around here lately. Several lately in fact I think for the most part. And the go you know Patriots Red Sox what have you everybody's had it pretty good round here so when you you get of you get a stinker like that although it. Two times in the last three games now that you had to -- like this which certainly Bears another you know. That a vote questions. On the will undoubtedly be approached here at some point. You have to wonder there's not a bigger issue to tackle. Maybe that's part of what we should begin tackling because of the Patriots you know I I've I've let it kind of it now for about you know a day. I have ever -- was over almost two days. I did my best. Even though yes they -- the the Columbus Day holiday I did my best stay away. From radio and some of the talk shows and in the the I get emotional reactions after the loss on Sunday night. In a reason is because I wanted to you know it's kinda like. You know getting an email to make angry and you just immediately fire off an answer. And then maybe 1520 minutes what you wish you hadn't done it because you had a chance let that reflect a little bit like you know it wasn't quite as bad as -- about. You know majesty's sometimes you have to maturity kind of -- so with that in mind at the study ornaments that way for most everything. I didn't watch any of the NFL highlight shows at all after that game was over on Sunday night. It watch anything yesterday with the exception of the -- blown out arm I I just wanted to chance. To be able to talk we -- today. From -- less emotional standpoint because I will admit will watch the game Sunday night I was angry. I was confused. I was up that. I would doubt it I was second guess I was like what the hell does. Just like I'm sure you -- And you know what that's not right I gotta I gotta take tobacco habit of it we can make this makes. And I think the general consent that have been able to come up with a my own mind. After kind of paying attention now to what others are saying at least -- about this time yesterday. Com. It is still a team that. I think the general perception is the Patriots are a team that largely has everything in place with the exception of one guy. I think that's the that's the misconception about the Patriots. I think the Patriots are now realizing for instance how much they really miss a guy like Asante Samuel in the defensive back. I think -- and they're all a learning that. One or two. Perhaps the linebackers and I'm not going to name names you come up with -- combinations. Have seen better days. And maybe one or two others are not living up to expectations are not. They may be pulling their own might. But because they're not helping the others it it though the entire unit operas by comparison. If that makes any sense. I think the defensive line is under performing with one exception. One exception based on what I've seen at least over the last two or three weeks. So right there you're looking at the entire defensive unit. That ought to be pretty good indicator as to why this team give a thirty point the other night. Offensively speaking I think we all realize. That yes it is a different team. Without you know you know who quarterback. But the problems offensively go deeper than just that and again. The misconception of Patriot is all it's the same team they don't don't have Tom Brady Tom Brady doesn't tackle Tom Brady doesn't block. Never did. May never ever do it again that's pressure -- and catch pass. On the offensive side of the ball -- Yeah if you're gonna miss. A certain hall of Famer. Quite frankly you're you're going to suffer little bit by comparison. And we've taken great pains -- you week. Is -- the season opener occurred to explain it on tape that -- castles go into the same type of thing that Tom went through when he took the job over Drew Bledsoe. For the most part. And comparatively speaking and we've done some of the comparisons that you probably read them on line was seen on TV -- read -- and a newspaper. But this is not at least up until a week until go we're very comparable if not even slightly better that -- Brady was that the same stage of his career back in 2001. The problem is is that you've got a problem in the offensive backfield. And I think we all know where that is he would even suit up. He also had a little bit more of an entry problem on Sunday night because LaMont Jordan also didn't shoot a suit up should pardon me. Freudian slip -- The offensive line. I didn't restart. But all of the one thing that I will start in and get don't get me wrong here I loved and -- Is a great kid while I was at BC calling their games years ago when he was the starting in Boston College. He was you know right place right time fit into the right mold. But he was abused by Jamal Williams. Up used -- and on the goal line stand the completely turn the game around in the third quarter as we all know. You know Patriots -- down seventeen to three knocking on the door -- that touchdown it changes the entire face of the football game. He got abused I haven't seen a center pancaked like that maybe ever in the unit in the NFL. You know -- ever when you went back up back backyard football pickup football. It ever had you play with a rule and I may be speaking to southerners primarily here because we just play with you know the DC rule. When he played touch football -- D seen in my you know what he's seeing and no ducking the setter. I mean basically shove the that are spaced out into the ground every step foot ball because he's not looking you. That's exactly what Jamal Williams did -- but he. He ducked the -- And -- play. An amazing to me how a team in the NFL -- first goal of the warning cannot get a yard day. It just blows me away. I don't care how good I don't care if the other team has eleven Shawne Merriman. You should be able to pick up an eight yard. Quarterback. An eight yard c'mon. I you know I just. You have to fill the offensive line and the Boston you -- threw everybody under the boss I realize that you know they were playing with the the Al -- Off on one of the tackles bonds because casual went down. Com I am sorry and as editor of the fact that it went a and M I'm not a Billy Yates and I just I don't think he has. I really believe and I've said this before on the show this year. And those of you who have list of the show at all before you know that I've made the this point they miss the after -- in the Stephen Neal. A great deal. He was one of those glue guys kind of helped keep that unit together it is athletic has paid off for life he helped make all the guys look good. Now that he's you know finally learned applicable from being -- he's one of the true great story. I think that you know has come across you know the New England Patriots way in the last several years based in his Bagram. And his development. But the on the line was horrific. If you don't have all the line and you don't have running back -- only expect a lot you quarterback and I am not. In any stretch laying this at -- street. Doing it. Now granted today is you know NFL trading deadlines for PM today at 4 PM eastern time today's trading deadline -- So were an hour 45 minutes away from and I who knows. If anybody will do -- I was at the patrons and I have to admit that the Patriots did what I want them to realize that this what 234 weeks ago maybe. I had I think you know you need a little pick me up that you need little jolt. -- the electricity goes through the veins of everybody in Foxborough and includes the guys and down -- hallway in the locker room I think maybe. Either cut somebody or you pick somebody up said that a month ago. I would love them to go and pick up of course he although he's playing again now for Tampa -- I don't know all that I heard a radio reporter early this morning that said that Detroit was going to release. Jon Kitna if he was not traded for by 4 PM. I don't know do you still go get Jon Kitna what they did Jon Kitna. Doesn't do much remained baby does more for you. My first question to you today kids web radio at Patriots dot com okay. First question do you is this is the trading deadline the NFL. At 4 PM eastern time today if there was one player that you could trade for that you think would make a difference right now. In this football team. Then -- Okay maybe we know who Gary would. On if there's one player is somewhere in the NFL you that would make a difference. Who is. Now if you want to go part of this guy that's fine okay. I think you have to realize that you know there are certain you know cost parameters let's talk -- players that would be get -- Get a maybe you're not initiated -- you don't maybe you don't know. Other guys you know contractual situation -- and -- which is while allowing you to have the -- and the guy. You know a let's go give Peyton Manning you know -- That's great although -- ensure that would do when he I think frankly of the Patriots need to look elsewhere. They need to look elsewhere. Like I said couple moments Matt Cassel was not the problem. What my estimation on on the night far from many other problems reared their ugly head. On on Sunday night for -- even begin thinking about quarterback. Now again. If they went out made a deal like of younger a year on the like that well that -- that little jolt of electricity in there but I think that it would be. I think the -- attack in the wrong problem now. Three or four weeks ago I would've thought now I think. It's changed it's -- work in progress here. And there is a law. An awful lot of work to be -- So are right I -- this guy shoot for one player that you think could it. Or your estimation would it make it different on this Patriots roster right now if -- glide and get him who would you get. Web radio at Patriots dot com all the numbers 585437482. Final 8543748. Obviously this being Tuesday it's also would -- Tuesday as we normally do here in the playbook. Nobody needs to pick I don't even know where to start but I have already touched on the obvious -- from Sunday night at thirtieth and the bako with the hands of the Chargers. I did in San Diego when the game -- last week Italy and it just didn't think it would turn out exactly. The way that it did. Not even close out of big league game. And they had they had a game a bit but still had a game. Up until you know the 98 yard drive went against them and by the way. Talk about an ignominious lap of the -- talk about the ultimate insult. -- in 2 injury as you get off -- At the one of the two yard line. And and the team Rams it down your -- the other way for 98 yards I mean how incredibly bad is that. That is. That is the the the equivalent of rubbing salt into an open -- I don't know how the Patriots defensively allow that -- does like offensively I don't know how they kept from getting one yard. But a lot of the team to go 98 the other way after you come up short. I I I am I'm still lost work it was a complete in order. Melt -- break their failure. Finale -- two of the last three games they have -- When he is throwing the Miami debacle. Tells me at this team playing any tougher schedule that they have left ahead of them. There's no way that this is a playoff team with -- they're currently can you know the way that the currently -- and yet we didn't really notice. I think it's most troubling here. We didn't really notice. A lot of the flaws in this team until. Brady went out. And just now -- beginning to understand you know what. Where would we be if we had Brady. Would we be four -- one would we be five and no I I'd after what I on Sunday night I can't imagine. I cannot imagine the Patriots head away. With Brady at the national animal a little way if if they got the lead of causing people to give up causing teams to basically say. Well we're not going to win this. I grew I truly believe that it is all mental. So many things are equal physically -- mentally is where you gain or lose your edge in the NFL. The Patriots had the mental -- and they've lost the key. Part to gaining that mental edge over the opponents in their quarterback. And so when we lose the quarterback that people are thinking hey they don't have the quarterback maybe we got a shot a what you start believing that mental thing kicks and and then what you start proving Andy's start you know beat them up a little bit and push our. -- a bit and shot the ball down their throats for 98 yards well then okay. All right. And I got I got so I -- of your -- and got a team that will to play with the on equal terms. When they had Brady it was on equal terms. That much team into the franchise overall. Other guys have the ability I believe still on this roster to pick up the slack and they're not doing it. Some of them can't stay healthy. Some of them. Their best days have passed them by. So I think what we're seeing is is that when Tom Brady went down we're looking at a low. -- remaking of the New England Patriots beginning the transformation has begun. It happened a little bit earlier than most of his thought it would mean I think most of us felt like for the season started. But it was a select you know Brady's got 135. More years easy and so we've got three more years of living high on the all around here and fielding a legitimate they have these last Super Bowl contender. Long -- he's quarterback. I think what -- realizing here is is that may be. This team wasn't quite is complete. Because again Brady has a way of making you glossed over. The areas of your team that need attention I am willing to wager that both Scott pioli and Bill Belichick. Are aware. And have been aware of for some time all the problems on the team. Certainly they addressed at least some of that in the off season -- Jerod Mayo. Maligned backing core and try to get repeated you know time in the pre season at least for Pierre Woods and Eric Alexander. You know in keeping -- guy -- and still lecture while we have seen Shawn Crable. Com. But you know perhaps on. I think that if you got to shake things up right now. I -- him you know -- Deltha O'Neal right off the roster after that unbelievable. Performance I mean -- named him to go. -- remember Elvis to post Patterson for the giant speakers back. I'd dealt the post O'Neal. Or as I'm concerned. There's a reason why the winless Cincinnati Bengals let him go there's a reason. I thought the time of the victim of a you know couldn't -- got an experience he's a veteran. You know we had you know in decent history with picked up veterans from you know all of them you know have been discarded all the way -- even off of bomb teams before. Take a shot right well this didn't mark. -- this one right up there with the Donald eighties. -- at wide receiver. I. Man was he that I I'm of the opinion now. And again I'm I'm just going out nit picks left -- right your kids so feel free to chime in with your biggest -- there's a bunch of them here to pick and choose your favorite. Pick and choose your favorite nip at the one nitpick that you got to just pick on the day like you know you gotta pick at that -- You know even crack the gap because -- pitches right okay so scratch the -- today. Web radio at Patriots dot com that tiger reaches here you to do you're nitpicking but tell me what it is from Sunday -- that really is still -- it's an action today. And I guess my biggest one is his O'Neal and why. He would even be on the roster today I am at the stage now or I've seen enough through a couple of weeks where I'm ready to just I'm I'm ready to throw my lot in with a young kids. Let's let Wheatley and -- have that slot let's just let him learn on -- trial by fire. Because. What what difference is -- going to make. Arguably the schedule is easy enough for them to be able to at least be competitive but when you go on the road and you play teams that are still pretty good and I that we realized. Diego's a pretty good team they're only three and three right double we talked about all last week for -- B that may not been with a federal last week with several people from India. And they all scratching their heads liberal why this team is you know up and down and keep in mind now the first two games they lost on fluke lost in the final seconds. A team was not far away for being at least four and one may be even Ivan now. But certainly four and one. And they played like a team that was 415 -- the Patriots on on Patriots I just don't think had a San Diego when there aren't based on what I saw it was lifeless it was lit. I don't know if being in the west coast last week had anything to do that I you know. Everybody has known all that was the right move to make all what's the prove. What's the -- only. Not that I'm from Missouri and they but surely. The game. I'd be convinced it was a good idea ahead the team at least been competitive. And played and -- and some higher. Nothing lifeless listless. Last. Parable. Maybe they -- too comfortable last week. -- comfortable. And it too many creature comforts of home. Maybe they needed a little bi coastal road trip just wake -- all of it gives them the to bitch about. Didn't work didn't. Know. Bottom line if this is a bottom line business and I am told all the time -- He cares just win. While I didn't win did. So under reevaluate from top to bottom has time to reevaluate everything he can't talk out of both -- amount of time reevaluate. Taken on a week but we bases but time to re evaluate a lot of different things. And really liked each of those young kids get the call it that corner now. Help -- that somebody anybody but -- got to go got to -- My biggest nit pick for the week wherever -- at Patriots dot com finally five point three W 482. So given a couple of things to -- on your early. Coming up in. Half an hour Aram will have -- Well Brian Lowe is supposed to be here in the second -- of the program at least it will be -- today and course and -- down. And a mark Johnson sports -- KOA radio in Denver. He's been a friend of mine for several years covering the Denver Broncos. From these different in my his days in the Big East Conference mark is going to join us to begin looking at next Monday night's game against the Denver Broncos. And we get a game back at Gillette Stadium. -- We get a game back usually it's Monday Night Football audience paean. And the Denver Broncos -- council will begin talking about that would mark Johnson the second program that in meantime there's plenty of time for you contribute now. I'll before we get to break here in the All-Star game two the emails let me address my friends stripper. Because I know that he was going to email today. -- all the email and you know it all in good form I think he realized. He's the OU fan in the bunch here and obviously other -- even -- that I went viewers to taxes so they've had this. College football game for the -- on Saturday at comparable in -- it was if you miss the game. Do you still a favorite go to YouTube. And he was strippers would have to admit. Go to YouTube. Or you know when it comes on ESPN classic which eventually Willits already played a couple of times. You gotta watch the clips from the game it was a great college and I say that. I'd say that even Texas it lost it was a great game. There was much back and forth -- was so many big plays so many individuals rising to the occasion you just don't eat. Out of college players -- What you saw in that Texas Oklahoma. Tech having won 4535. That's why Texas is. -- they'd they'd jump over Alabama and everybody else to number one in the nation with you did not slide far did the strippers in an email here tech lose to tech and Missouri and use slides into the big twelve title game just like 2006. You know what that could still very easily happen. Because Texas has Missouri this week which I'm deathly afraid of even a legitimate Austin and they got to play at Oklahoma State can play act. Tex tech and I got to play act hands. Holy cow. I was there three wrote an Okie state at tech and Kansas. Home games they have Missouri. Baylor and a and M that's what they have left because they could lose more than just one. Oklahoma I did for me -- also has fairly tough schedule. So you know miss in the middle linebacker you know Ryan Reynolds like you pointed out earlier I don't know. Timing of the same teams are going to explain. It but we saw on Saturday the -- is did so. You know it's anybody's guess. -- think it's -- into an -- could also win their games and and not have any competition. He hit the BCS title game if they went all you have to say that Texas gets that this schedule undefeated strippers. That is one of the best all time regular season based on the teams they played the if they are able to get the my own personal estimation is that they won't -- how that trying to be impartial. You cut -- I'd be all right but I'm going to look at it objectively I don't think they get through this schedule without a loss. -- understand. -- was basically two games behind tech tech would have to lose twice -- you have to win the rest and think that's -- I don't know what's going to handle that Al division big twelve. The Al division of the it will has four teams ranked out of 616 in the south division the big twelve. Fourteenth ranked in the top eleven -- and yeah Texas Oklahoma. Texas Tech Oklahoma State top ten."

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