PFW in Progress - 10/15/2008

Wed, 15 Oct 2008

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as former Patriots quarterback Scott Zolak drops by the studio to give his perspective on the play of Matt Cassel. We'll discuss the defenses lack of pressure on opposing quarterbacks and share some stories from the recent west coast trip.

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Play from 1:39[1:39]" PFW in progress. Your home page it's about the only place that you can hear nonstop Patriots. And other thing. Anyway I gave up here at my keys out of practice but -- here Eric hall me. Gary's in the who had -- somewhere in special today -- got all that and how they got going and an example about a block. I very welcome the pizza. Brought that in the United. Actually stole like walking by you are also when did you get started on that all the chicken wings then -- with got but what you don't hear that he. All access filming. Two other shows we get beat 38 channel -- stuff so -- try out Matt Smith has agreed. Couple small you know we built a lot of like Watson 55 yards in a row -- Wrote the RBI man like well. I know a lit up with Hewitt you do a lot of that with the Patriots yeah he's doing a lot of EI -- On Friday my arthritic Patriots Friday Coca Paul's job there and you know. -- Lopez spot that's okay you know a lot of fun to this. Oh and we have a lot. I don't like it. Don't talk enough Patriots -- too much. Oh you know -- I won't talk. Won't take that to me last week I was in I was in last week and they wouldn't talk go Patriots Friday -- sports Red Sox -- one offered him puck by his game while I -- equally -- break game for like forty years so my contention in it's always been in the ways that it ease up. While. -- They'll I think that the reason why they baseball because it in the game better I don't know how to plug any yen in a million dollars -- for the right where the other for the Red Sox that that probably might help him but -- him -- any act that pay to have it. Great point you know that's great point eight I was actually got black two weeks ago I need to take that up which will vote probably should get paid for. As you know acted on multiple prime concern when you guys. -- exactly how little what do you take out what about the team. Well what's what's -- scenario. As an -- Patriot player and an ex quarterback what what what the deal as the open game you go back a couple of weeks that you know I chalk that up as."

Play from 4:05[4:05]" You know they'd pay any attention to it you get caught sleeping in you read the papers you know your -- week. -- they they went the next game thinking they're going to win but the shocking thing was they never just you know after they saw them that the whole service call the wildcat formation. -- direct snap them back you know who's playing quarterback only does anything that exotic right dated a -- there and they went to San Fran to start too well let. The game went on you know Mac got better and the fans oh my god they move people around -- split about that borders. That's a revelation you -- and create problems for the quarterback few shots across like this on offer coaching at all not caught the coaching staff I mean you got. A lot invested in your fronts that. Obviously and we've talked about that transfer money. You know back to back ten years their pain a lot of pain lower Malloy in all these guys -- money secondary you're kind of plugging in the Anthony pleasant and right at Washington's of the world. And we can't get some things done you know winning. But it's amazing it shows you how you need eight cover corner at least one. So you don't have to worry about one half of the field that way if when your corners -- struggling you could roll coverage that way. And happen role both ways and an opening everything in the middle and make yourself -- a lot of money being paid up front in these guys have not gotten pressure record."

Play from 5:21[5:21]" Well that that I think the point that we were talking about yesterday that you know forget. Don't even think about that -- to figure out these all pro when. He's part of the that's part of he's not that big part of the problems people thinking right what are we go to the -- are. You tell me Brady goes -- held for series. And they're going to be 31 couple weeks into it with a guy hasn't played since we all know high school and I think that's that. Let's get past that. It's going to work in progress and got we took this. What did you think of bill comments I think it was yesterday when asked about the past Russian guys up front. And that way. The top spot in San Diego in a pretty big good offensive line you worried about LaDainian so it's hard to get a mean -- a little. Replica Everton football pretty yeah I did you not read it Richard Seymour Ty Warren -- paid a lot of money. To be as good the good quarterback to get to the quarterback who has might be gay ran the ball but you're eliminated from there."

Play from 6:21[6:21]" To -- play basketball. Well I thought it -- if you let our our basketball for guys OK 15 on five games other team give the other team thought he played for probably going to lose -- it's -- Bible. -- back watched that game -- couple times -- at second half when they need to make up front. There were times maybe about 5560%. Of the time they're only rushing four. Now last time I checked there's -- to heart attack that's why it and he got Bordick got five and -- back in the chips so we'll do that six. -- rushing for. But -- they did the deal complete when that if you're covering great. You know but the problem is going to -- guys on islands out there and -- can't you know what I might give up."

Play from 7:09[7:09]" Big plays -- giving up big plays and uplifting so to me expecting waiting -- point and I and I I agree with is that the way bill talked about it a lot like. Oak we will we will really try to complete and totally concentrating on LT and that's they came into the game doing and that's certainly mean. Sound strategy -- video -- okay I'm not saying what were they thinking trying to stop LaDainian Tom is the best back to football. To me it was kind of disconcerting that the think that if you put that much effort to stop the run at everything outside to deteriorate right way did -- not going to get any pressure because trying to stop the run went -- and recovered deep passes -- out front and nobody we played D -- with with single covered on the outside. And all of a sudden anybody that wanted to get deep -- Patriots could and you know bill talked about when you worried about stopping the run. You you're trying not to get up field and get out of position because it creates running lanes and all of a sudden. You know there's no pass rush and I think that you're right they add. Mike -- likes a breakdown that the number snapped up and he added that he's in the diners yet nine. Plays that they rushed more than -- yeah it seven with five into with it on our."

Play from 8:15[8:15]" Are going to -- be good -- yeah -- that I -- that is my point I don't care you know. They're they're good enough Richardson was a collapse the pocket -- collapse the pocket whether they're two guys on a three guys on the back chipping and get a little pressure not and you have to get that I'm not expecting him to be Jason Taylor off the edge and just run through the quarterback that's what he wasn't Miami. What it was when he poetic you know he was -- a -- get after I think they don't yet yep but he didn't play you know right now. He would -- different -- think to give them a free pass it well we shut down Thomas and that's a free pass an excuse and to the critics' eyes of the teams -- doing just saying well Patriots are pretty good now that's why they want well well he's saying the Chargers are good that you couldn't beat it well one of our callers ask that question yesterday in the -- ballot that. Does the coaching staff over estimate over estimate the cover capability of the secondary. You know. Can the guys not."

Play from 9:15[9:15]" Couple -- overestimated Deltha O'Neal and there's a reason he was cut by Cincinnati understand it -- there and all that but. But he it was wasn't that good he was asked what -- I think -- and -- if he was that good you've reached work Brent. You know as a reason that the bad franchise that the bad football team. And now he's your ball when he ties -- that'll be looks good the price -- actually. I thought I. I work and -- like a segment of this team all the commercial right now I don't know exactly but I mean. Alarming thing is -- my point being sports to blow -- I mean they they got their ass kicked into game yeah I think if Richard said you know we need to get back to the ways -- 1 he had this Brady went down we've won one on him when you have the weapons of what we want him. We didn't have these weapons like Randy like Welker right we won 1413. I I agree with -- even if you'll -- bailed those starters to seventeen point -- points. Forget and I know everybody thought the -- about the first and goal -- they run of four times while trying to have -- right but. That was one possession game as bad -- it was up to that point has always down seventy -- game -- I."

Play from 10:25[10:25]" If they had lost games like -- on the way you talk I don't think it would be this kind of panic because I think that right now people the -- smoke or not it's not just a -- Like you said Matt getting all the heat. Because he's not getting the ball in from the one yard mindful -- we know Tom what you know but. If they had lost 1713. You look at it and say well at their little limited offensively the team they can't win it by itself but 2030 the other race 38 ask me right. You know that that the wide field -- that. Now tell me to Thomas covered up a lot of deficiencies -- he's better than -- people actually think he has police brought under rated. Companies are rated cover their deficiencies -- what I -- what I -- get out of minute when he won enough you know everybody as you know on if they got in on on on first and goal all are in that series in seventeenth and maybe the game changed maybe it would change it it quite possibly could have a game of my. The fact remains that the -- would have had changed the game for the D. Everybody's was insistent last year spread you wanted to you that. You know war on my out of that that he spent. You know was great and we just kept it looked at."

Play from 11:35[11:35]" Green okay when it's scored fifty points every game of the team's offense has I give up right ticket anymore right up like the Patriots might but -- did well I'd I'd I'd pick you up at the wind out of a comment -- Rodney. You know is -- they talked all the airlines. You every watch that. The air out it shouldn't if you did did you feel that it's actually an excuse apartment I -- what part of the field as a reference you do what you wanted to on the film and we got one. After -- for taking the all right but. Why yesterday we were adamant they -- don't even dark credit I think that it you. With the fans in all these hopeful that the Patriots cabinet team where they -- if they were losing seventeen to three. Okay now look at the office but it was thirty and as a defense."

Play from 12:26[12:26]" Going to start pointing fingers I mean as an offense if you want to start point fingers back and forth and -- defense -- we were deflated when you didn't score I think they felt when you get a forty yard pass on the first play of the game right off Matt Cassel my little deflated general crap like it when a shoot out and attack -- because. I've been there are no hard it is and he -- it's not like deeply and for this but you know like I said it's a work in progress I expect in the managed games. And at the end of the year that maybe have four more touchdowns and interceptions that point that's pounced when you know. Yeah I mean point that's sixteen X I expect them somewhere and nothing great. Where the touchdowns are better than -- the phenomenon while why let me ask you as expected to watch a question as a quarterback and obviously one of the things he's. Failed that is getting the ball deep three and under thrown him -- many times here now. Should we say well that's a pretty easy wrote just -- up there and Randy Moscow get it or. Or no because I mean on paper it -- is over thinking throat as far as you can pass you can let renegotiated the fact that it is and he's not doing that he's under throwing him a lot and it's almost like he's aiming that ball era where he can't. He can't go to the reads and it's almost like rainy freaky he's -- just the route to where he's run and it but on the hand goes up that's fine day on which route. That's almost it it it's that herky jerky panic thing more Roman. Any kind of pulls the string on it right he's like a -- at best that we -- rate you believe America via conference. I don't I don't think he's conference itself -- and have confidence in where he throws the football to trust factor right now -- Boys are right that I enjoy the week it's been great -- yeah Gary typically had enough."

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Play from 20:29[20:29]" I was stuck out his own the coaching. I was glad to hear it out of gas on an -- he's a backup quarterback themselves though it probably. Aren't many feel strongly about but. I just right though -- is just getting killed in the -- and I don't think he's played great I'm not trying to say he's played like Brady played 2000 what not he's made mistakes he's made a lot of them. But I just. I think the put on on him the way that a lot of the fans and he's out that the ask PFW were we had at 5055. Need to get rid of this bombing as blunt an NFL even."

Play from 20:59[20:59]" I was I was at my -- pop Warner practice might want a spot comes up. Now I think you know how a team doing blob applied to -- you know I don't. Competitive people because they take away they'll -- play but I couldn't be legal and right into it. With a lot of political I don't know I was on a field goal you'd hoped they would have done and another way to -- as they did he get the more plays because you can't."

Play from 21:25[21:25]" You can equate those eighteen wins last year repeatedly aren't that good yeah yeah I don't want but you know. There's only -- it will make those are open at San Francisco game you know. What do you took away though -- or third down completions that that allotment. Cassel had to extend drives him in his 180. You know you're just take indiscriminate plays out of take away that 98 run by him that he would only had a hundred -- go out by now Patrick I was there -- those two long touchdowns and really kept Patrick Cobbs and check last week you know so long so what's. It at this point make you really have to be. You know critical and it look at what needs to be done in. I think the good news page. You know I'm going to put a positive. The good news is that point it guys we know are better than their play. Because they've done it the fourth. You know we're not looking at Matt Cassel that we don't have Korea will look at a guy like seven Wilfork and Warren and Vrabel and Bruschi and Thomas Thomas these guys we know and play better. So hopefully they. What about the second. That what I don't know. I mean at O'Hara and what he can do things that really."

Play from 22:39[22:39]" I really I don't I think it -- and Rodney I don't know this last week and in tally and he you guys with me girl. Andy he talked about you know and I think Derek actually US the question. On the secondary -- it was kinda coming together a little bit and it you know. Heading into San Francisco we have lost the Miami game and you know people wondered Chad Pennington completed 1720. In his second stop anybody. We call with three interceptions San Francisco -- would -- Well no not really was still trying to search and find -- wait here and and showed because when the next game and it's a disaster and thought he."

Play from 23:14[23:14]" All -- I point that. Rivers is infinitely better than JT element what was the difference between the 49ers game in in the pressure. I mean in the back of that one but they gotta space -- the right. He was not throwing from his comfort right at the apartment they would -- and -- and he's right but so you know what failed in his criticism of the coaches. I think that's the difference in the difference in those two games to me was they didn't going trying to stop Frankel in San Francisco. -- the goal him it was much pressure on an experienced quarterback and make it. And it worked. Well this game it always stop LaDainian Thompson going to put eight men in the box -- about putting pressure on the rocker or about double and on the outside and stop LaDainian Tomlinson. So that tells me that the only in a pristine -- really need is the one thing and they put all their efforts. And you know our bill always tells me. No metal when you are in the league if you devote your attention stopping one thing anybody could not so what does not very impressed about it and we what he's saying look. You know that he could be better because I ever going to help out the secondary. You know because we don't know that much about secondary but the like -- will make up for that or will have them. But evidently -- they have to do different guys to get pressure and yet just go out there that pressure on era and they're not even doing that so. Secondary yet at the front seven to play up to their ability."

Play from 24:41[24:41]" You know -- that during the globe today about the winning the lack of pass rush. And I get the point they try to stop LT but after awhile there completing bomb after bomb after bomb about switching things up. And maybe try to put the pressure on terrorism take away that the pats woman that goes back to them my and the ending -- and that goes back for the Miami game they sought the Ronnie Brown play -- donations that well that's a good question that's the -- now I don't know I just I'm really kind of disenchanted with some of the explanations I've I've been here England's opponent tonight at this wasn't as bad as it looked all -- this is what we try to do we did it. Well okay he is not guilty -- he wasn't a factor. In any religion in the ball that much quality even try to wanted to they came out throwing the ball and it came out that great to play that went like fifty yard."

Play from 25:24[25:24]" I think the only difference between the west coast games -- Mike Martz. Is Auburn to a fault and you know he sits there -- you look batted in and -- it is comic view during the game and you we -- you must think in St. thing. Those -- I think it was only like 1714. At the time. And that does get the ball back Patriots come out and nickel package. With it maybe even I play one defense linemen to different Miami six defensive backs and we in reality at a march won't run. And he didn't he threw the ball three times three and out they punted he's -- help. That's what he wants the to. He just has all the football what worked against him go. And it went in said this is what they've they've going to doodle while we're gonna counteract that by -- but they they seem to figure that out right away. Like -- that was there and play around lately they've -- FI mean they you know in might makes opposing -- way to going -- they thought they could really exploit the outside matches and they do going to get a lot of man coverage but once it to -- nets can't plan -- if that's not Mike my example that's what -- match -- I don't see any -- every play even though I have JT O'Sullivan has a quarterback and I'm going to put it all on him but the the problem is the Patriots knew was coming to like big game plans to expect that they play the ages. Couldn't -- about."