Patriots Playbook - 10/16/2008

[1:08:07] ..." overtime game eat out for the season for the Pro Bowl punter Mat McBriar and he lost a wide receiver -- hurt you gave the wide receiver because. Now that you're getting rid of Jones is"...

[1:47:14] ..." last question thanks for the time hero obviously local interest in in Tom Nalen and he's out for the year and we know it's contracts up at the end of the year and we're we're do"...

[1:18:56] ..." could they do have some respectable. Defensive backs -- good linebacker DJ Williams and so on. So depending on how the you know want to attack that way but I just think it's -- go"...

[1:17:15] ..." they have Eddie Royal back this week hopefully -- them they have Tony Scheffler back this week. But I think -- Wesley also Jay Cutler that big strong arm is to keep Denver's offense off the"...

[0:00]" So -- guns go Tambo without golf and I want to go pot pie. That they've won -- it's his Patriots playbook because backup combat odds that being on there yeah. Breaking down last -- for me. In the Spirit of the great. -- and the rest of the 2008. NFL. And some of the points separate between now feelings John look. Fallen Patriots --"

[0:40]" Walking inside the playbook or Thursday on Patriots dot com radio and we're ready to go. Can we kicked him off yet on Monday night at the Denver Broncos Monday night here at Gillette Stadium it seems like it has been forever and it was to get away actually Fridays Saturday and look for more than anything extra minutes than we now. You know I don't I gotta look you have the right Eric television of course the Patriots football weekly. Joining us as he doesn't Thursday's game and frankly you're absolutely right about that in and I'm glad you brought that up because you know my college -- scheduled -- has been kind of a weird one I've had a lot of the weeknight games you know. Rather than the the the Saturday you know usual -- schedule just because that's what they've decided to nationally put on radio. And so I'd actually head my weekends to watch college football great on Saturdays. And the last couple weeks have been able to watch you know other games in addition to the Patriots on Sunday. And I'm -- the heck out of it perfect and it's unbelievable. Your right we get all they -- to watch football. -- again yeah. Great I -- be just to be home we've been we've been -- you probably missed -- I didn't you guys last week a lot is Amadeus ten days on California there was there was extra."

[1:52]" Great trip. It was a great triple girl yeah. You know these are you -- on United's side are you -- but he still fight the jet -- little I asked -- my day yesterday he said he it's kind of like -- as -- legs back and -- waking up in the mornings a little harder you like -- straight up at 5 AM or whatever it is yeah that's what it was -- very hard they're better at five million Macedonia. It's if it's not as if that would be back moment yet when they made the schedule. It was it was advantageous -- the Monday night game coming off the street races as you know we got back. Like 7:30. Almost 8 o'clock Monday morning from Dayton. And at the finished at the if the papers -- we got home and duel something. Rating at home. My Monday it was kind of shy and Tuesday off but. Recuperate but. I mean I have no man's season when you do that the that the bi coastal thing here do you -- Do you go into it -- you have take like you know tylenol PM or some of the kitchen at. People that are do you have trouble sleeping I have no trouble sleeping January. -- I can't do something about the emotion of an airplane. And -- trained for that matter as I have to commute sometimes to have to New York and -- to Penn station and I can't sleep on the plane and actually sleep on the -- I don't know why. I can those. But I never really get any sleep in I've had a -- early morning flight lately and still it's -- like you know when -- get to the airport it's like come -- I'm not going to the coffee. I don't even you know -- a call in -- about 7730 in the morning. Because I need to do that -- that's exactly what I need to do. But I can't do -- no problem and I'm tired needlessly where -- That -- them. That's a bonus that's a real bonus I'll have that unfortunately in in. On November when basketball rolls -- but anyway we -- Tom. Thoughts on this team at least. Try to -- itself back up after the debacle last week and you know I heard you guys who do you pick a little while ago and in in frankly. I'm not. Convince I share. Your enthusiasm for the past I'm all I can't believe I'm say in this I'm leaning towards the arts. And and the only reason is is that I need to be shown I have not physically seen. Evidence yet that this team is capable of doing. You know well when it comes the pats -- trying to. I always try to be. Optimistic. As opposed. You know and that's actually line that's -- yeah even when even when your -- you media otherwise I'd. I just have a hard time picking against him. You know especially. The squad they have the last few years and this this Monday night game is going to be tough town because they never ever have it easy with the Broncos. Whether it's here or out in Denver that's always had enough time at the -- that's another reason for my idea conundrum. Right now is the fact that you know traditionally they have a hard time with -- Denver you know dole amendment came here a couple of years ago on them. Was this Sunday or Monday night and on the night but they. You know I'd Javon Walker game when he -- excellent long touchdown yeah that's right it was Adam. But haven't figured out here that was. Gillette data that was the 24 Eckstein Beckham was a 2002. -- non I don't know. Last year our recent was left two years ago. Seventeenth at walker cup walker about it too long to get to Antonia seventy evident -- right that's correct so yeah when you look at the series between the -- that on -- the playoff game you know in 6 that lost the last. Three times they have played or -- him. That lost in 5 invesco field right now they lost to know six regular season in the post 6 playoff. Yeah seven to thirteen of his field that -- right great great -- actually if I didn't cyclical numerical or you -- date -- there but the other lost the last three times they've played. They have lost. The last one. To two times they've played in fact the only two times that Denver has played at Gillette Stadium Denver's one yeah. How about that one opponent that's ever played here twice since July they've opened and I won both times. Yeah I can now you get it now you're beginning to life seal the -- not familiar and yet you're going on we went in there that's that's not a bad way to go. I just. Knowing Belichick teams coming off losses especially bad losses. They typically do well. Mean you -- they got kicked in the teeth by Miami. You know and handed it to sisco no doubt no doubt they had to pick up against -- pretty big -- bill talked about the of the -- played pretty competitively. Except for 45 really big plays which turned the game. What -- against San Diego while they will all the the fulcrum of the game was the people they know the fulcrum of a but but for the most part they knew they were with. There were with the Chargers."

[6:58]" Not even though -- I never felt completely confident that they were going to jump into the fray and -- seventeen to three at that stage at halftime could've been a lot worse. It should have been probably 1710 at half by my thinking and then course leading going down to the opening drive of the third quarter with a chance to tie it up. But it 173 I felt like it could have been in probably should have been worse stadium -- didn't play great game. In any aspect mean they. That they were competitive that's fine but it -- play great game and play elected in him sisco here's the thing do you want to be competitive you want to be. You know coming contenders here and I mean c'mon we're not used to having just competitive teams here we used kicking peoples that. And so -- regarded ninth and of course I used collective we here but I'm I'm saying that you know this is the perception of the Patriot. And because the Patriots are not doing what they've done in the past you know my friends and and those that you know who covered the league. No matter where they are in this country a lot of the guys that I nobody is -- and such in all that the Patriots pale by compare and it's really it's on her. -- you really should consider each and every season if not each and every game you know a separate entity and while -- but it's hard to do based on the past history especially."

[8:13]" Yeah but you know it's done that in the Patriots haven't really except for last year the first half of last year. Maybe the first record as -- last year until about the Philadelphia Camden. They were blowing teams out last year. But prior to that even during the the Super -- streaks in in -- trio for. That they were beating teams by field goals by touch down there were blowing people wild. They would they would come down to that at the end of the game so. You know their record -- yet they were you know fourteen into a couple of times but they weren't blowing people out in the seasons they were winning. By smaller margins and and a lot of times at the end of the game that this whole thing about the pitchers -- people I mean don't really happen for a short time last year."

[8:59]" On you know that they were going to those games they were winning those games -- sure they were -- people out though but they were there were the difference is they were winning -- I guess and then then I guess I'm over generalizing. -- I guess that's again part of the perception. You know they managed to win games that we all thought they should win even though they weren't blowing them out he got to chalk it up to okay they just took your business in the moving all I mean it went three revolt by a combined nine point that's -- That's true and blown anybody who they've gotten blown out in the Super Bowl but the outlook audio. -- interest and well you know I I guess. In don't. Terrible towel on Monday I think I'm still in them you know sort of a shall we Dayton is nothing to do with Missouri in this week I had. -- just send me an email -- his Missoula overtake. Shocked about the river shoot up forego for the US open up about that on ten point win thrilled. -- enough. He -- crappy and he whined and moaned and he's like I can't sleep -- practically cried what do baby boom it's got to. I rural numbers for a living in there was only crime you know a little kid come --"

[10:05]" Dude. And going to -- I'm not incredibly bright side there's a lot of bright I absolutely. Him but. -- Outside of a -- out realized that lost my train of thought we were talking about."

[10:23]" Texas over Missouri. Before. I. Actually I'm kind of worried about the game with just like always a let down game yeah yeah well the fortunately fortunately all right it's in Austin. Although a lot of people could David. You know there's even more chance -- home that -- on the road they have to make sure they keep that mental -- thing you know going. And Missouri is very good but I you don't want the winner of this game that quarterback will be the leader in the clubhouse Heisman now. Rhetorical Kuwait should -- Tuesday. I was Texas -- the fifth largest stadium by capacity in. Thought from this because they just enlarged. -- they just added."

[11:04]" Well when I was in school there it was about 77000. And you know good I stadium but I mean it was you know -- back and Korean war days. Hum. Then they enlarged it to 8182. Right after -- got out of school in the early eighties. And then they've had like two with three mall or additions and just -- last year they closed in every thing. In the north end zone. And that got skyboxes that a double level everywhere now. They added about another 12000. And Akron do there is -- track and took the track out in order to put the -- and and that happened back in the ninety. That was really that was the last addition before the current -- and on with they took the track out on the -- they have their own separate now tracks stadium and only which is unbelievable I mean if you haven't been oh my gosh. It can talk about the -- there's not school a country that is even better than what Texas has but the global capacity now has ninety hoopla. 92000. And they even have get this now this is talking about you know actual money a topic for joining us on longhorns play exactly. They actually have plans in the works to increase of 200000. It. It's the competition among it will do live it did kind of is but yet the fifth largest now in the largest stadium in the southwest. Com. You know I mean -- when Texas a and M talk about rivalries are rumored Texas a and M. When they did their enlargement of Kyle field probably 1015 years ago they increased seating capacity by one seat over memorial. And that. Come on pup -- doubted them Aggies a ice hockey anyway it's. Are it would totally digress now but that's because you got -- talk about the long points. Juror has definitely blame you don't want. Hey I gotta tell the number one English you don't know how long you gonna last for the number one ranking -- and there's been four different number ones this year. Right out and it's an -- and I and I don't expect I don't expect X stay up really don't the schedule is too don't think. And you can ask anybody that knows me. I've had all along there was any problem was an additional ways that I I don't have my hopes of the schedule is too brutal. It on when you say Oklahoma Missouri -- Okie state at tech act and a week. You know that brutal when he consider -- teams from the big twelve south are ranked in the top and then and they shouldn't count -- every series. And I'm not done that and that's ridiculous total. What does that have to do it Monday night I have no idea on the fact it's great experts local college -- make it relevant. Let me ask you question. I'm -- they get a chance to add to add to tell this to. Andy because he asked me the other day we were crossing over before shows that you know what do you think COLT McCoy about it as a potential pro. And I said I hadn't really thought much about it because number one. Before this year that was not on the radar right a number two he said from day one he is committed to playing for years attack. Bomb. He strangely about that right now with a kid that comes huge prize he is a fourth year junior yeah so he would be elegy got a degree in media he would be eligible. I sent an email to couple friends that I know in the business. One of them being milk -- And you know he's as you know he had heard the McCoy is going to come out. But if he did right now he'd say that you know it is especially if he wins the Heisman. He -- you know he'd be a first round pick real -- I personally don't see I don't see right now I'd say based on what we have but you give him now. I sure I'd take a shot at him in the second or third round I think you could certainly he's a first degas. I don't know if he's a first round but it Texas continues to win. He continues to throw it and ungodly 79%. Completion rate which is what he's currently -- as his touchdown interception ratio like eighteen to three. So he continues to do that and Texas wins and oh yeah he wins the Heisman. I think you'd have to he's probably somewhere in the first. In public he's -- top two or three pick doesn't it doesn't he doesn't -- you know. Well here's the thing and the more I think that you know they're can be. Some improvement will always -- Matt Cassel all the conversation actually got started was. You know he was a little plodding. We tournament and boy I'll -- he was a little applauding when he first started out as -- freshman. In all and as a sophomore a little bit better but that he was doing double assault as well though. -- it was old of a problem what he did he worked on his feet. He's got great lateral movement he's got good quickness he's not overly fast although -- or 540 now. But he could just -- in his footwork and when he gets up in the pocket. He's much more balance too much which traded shoulders were square -- rather than an even when he don't want on the run out of the pocket. This is what Jay Cutler I think brings to the table for Monday night there was talk a little bit about -- drawn towards yesterday. I looked and and draw -- why not you know we got to give people regional -- and you don't yeah you don't listen to me listen to the guys would bring on the show that little point right. But I've worked with -- guys and George he's as the Cutler. Is is got a rocket arm I mean you -- almost the trail behind the ball to release and the way that you develop that surely -- want to square. Scored a target if you could square up and hit your target like that you're going to be able to which team. And -- is -- COLT McCoy is he's got the better footwork and so you know I asked George yesterday in particular right what do you give Matt Cassel. Where do you think he could improve. And you know first thing in the first things he mentioned is definitely footwork he but he's got to work on staying in the pocket. And finding that little niche like Brady was so good at that point. -- Brady had -- tends to make his offensive linemen looked good even when there was a missed assignments because Tom had a little little I'd -- or he could that will. Crack in the pocket he could slip into. And then -- released the ball. And Matt hasn't learned how to do that in a lot of that is. Just from having been in -- pocket and having collapsed around you lock anticipating what you exactly do that and plus admittedly -- know things can work on is quicker release he holed a notable way too long we -- know. But he he's enough Ron Jaworski season. Of the next month that Cassel is better than any thing -- that the Patriots could go and get. Out there on the market yes -- idea on that includes Jeff Garcia that certainly includes Jon Kitna. Chris -- anybody else who want to throw in -- and I don't know if on Aaron yes he did get put all the the deal was -- Detroit couldn't traded their put him and I are they in the couldn't trade by the deadline they put him on IR. That's what they did. Surprised that in the picked up. In mildly surprised I'm I'm on the I think too many people can like damaged -- era you know. So you know and I'm terribly surprised not to maybe another shot next -- team but you know I'd bring in Kitna is a great veteran backup. You know -- patrons will be looking for back up next year. You know and they still got to bring along O'Connell not I'm assuming that you know O'Connell as a back -- that -- well technically he has yet and I am assuming that that would be the case again next year is -- going to -- someplace else and when I realized that way -- he's going wrong. But you know if you do -- that you know I mean you gotta bring in a quarterback somewhere I would think one quarter you have O'Connell we have pretty good beach -- as well. For next year in you probably bring in wheels why not bring in a -- He if he can provide that little extra insurance -- you know it's going to take Brady a little while to get back into think yeah. Especially come back from an injury and I end and I used Carson Palmer as a perfect patient. It really took Palmer all of his first -- back to get back to where he won. And even now he's struggling but -- banged up again but understand you don't be shocked next year. If Brady isn't break Pete at the start and too many fans in too many people around the country going to expect Tom Brady to beat Tom Brady. Right from the get do you think. If he's healthy enough at that point and -- more in the coming. Pre season and you were and who Tom Brady I I would reason why not he's got a different somewhere. Right. I think I mean I realize that you realize there's an injury possibility here but I certainly think that he would come on play at least a quarter. And then you you want to balance the rest time between O'Connell and a -- fine that's fine if you indeed think the -- still you know I mean in each each of the four games. -- again like you can eat differently you play a clear blue and then in the R -- and got it back initially I mean in the fourth game you know yeah I realize that but I need to -- back -- pair. You we don't know what we that he -- and only. Until you get a thirty and you throw -- mean there's no reason to believe that he can't be. You know hundred for helping -- next year he's got a lot of time to rehab will know what his work ethic is. So I mean I've been reasonably that he won't be ready to go maybe even by June mini camp in every now yeah. I mean it costs possible it's possible. But I -- again a guy like kitten or if Garcia or someone like dead if they are available. Gosh why not take liars if they can make you team. Especially now that you know that you know the injury has occurred and it could always happen again. Talk about you know under the thing's -- issue what happened that happened in next year."

[20:53]" You know we -- we're just fortunate. At. This team isn't getting any younger. Well in some aspects it is but he's getting him -- and financial worries me. I think we're seeing -- of this team has some work to do it you know certainly in the secondary but in the line backing core. The team and work to do on the -- line the whole front seven John has been a little bit at this point all the remain good though yeah I agree with that the defensive line overall I know Guzman. Safer than ever there is nobody really got good pressure on Sullivan. And they haven't done what I expected them to do like a lot of other people expect and then there at this point which is Richard Seymour -- have to this country. I think he's got -- that he he signed that extension I think it was in. To hear about three years ago I think it was. Two years it was three years ago was right before his knee injury. And that was. 4. That was 5. You know five or Eric yeah. So if if that's the case then he's like five year extension yet so he's god it's been a two Warriors for Warriors -- almost to the point where it's. Swallow -- You know maybe. I'm I'm just listen I'm -- stuff out there that he's -- right now but. Frankly I think just because. Possible -- well -- only trade but just you know you know the ability to did you know to realize that you know one I think we need to make a move here. I think you know to bring in Mahdi Army you know I don't have a problem with high 1% he's actually played pretty well. Vince Wilfork E can't get enough space eater. But I think if you if you if you really need to make an impact number one I would love to see this team -- the 34. On hand -- go with more pass have a up right pass rushing defense and employee that's funny sick as an Italian name. -- from a college ranks. Brian Iraq ball from tax. Guy's unbelievable. He is actually unbelievable he beat personified and right now he's unbelievable well he should be enough he should be a top -- occupant and in. You mention going to the 43 -- they haven't gone to it is their base but. In the last couple games they have been using usual four down line yeah they went largely with a 425 last week right. Yes that's why we didn't see a lot of Bruschi literally go the couple lineman Jarvis green was that guy until he got hurt and Mike Wright took a lot of media the snaps -- point. Jarvis green was I wasn't thinking obviously he's the X factor is I'd love Lucy Jarvis Green be an every down guy. Well. That's the thing about him is he's he's made impact. When he's been a reserve coming in. -- to replace someone. When he had to start he hasn't had that that much success then I went last year at that when Seymour was on pop for six weeks. Jarvis was taken his spine and played played at a I had no complaints with what but he didn't have that three -- kinda games and -- did. When he was coming in especially patty berg or even against the Colts he's a great change of pace guy that's that -- so I think that more his role of being afraid to be an every down guy. He'd be serviceable but I don't think he'd be. The spectacular and a difference they're looking for -- so. And if if that's Angel looking for an I don't know I think it's kind of -- there. While I just thought that it would be utilized a little bit more of of their talent in terms of the depth. And you wouldn't have. The line backing core as comfortable. You know if you could say you put Bruschi in the middle and you alternated him with one of the young guys your. Or whatever the case may be I just thought that you know may because you have older depth in the -- in court if you better so you know less than. You know the amount of reps -- those guys get the best way to do that is to put fuel route that. Maybe I mean and you still have you have personnel forty who played three you've -- or three like what like Christina -- in the middle. You don't utilize our nose tackle with a four victory you know yes -- tackle for the Lincoln center right -- lot of college teams do that -- college teams player for the traditional 43 but they line and I think that there tackle over the -- the nose up in effect he's a nose tackle and then it -- strong -- one right there exactly I see no reason why the Patriots couldn't do that. And I'm not sure whether philosophy is we did with the 34 or you know going to slit her throat -- I don't -- what did that put it seems like. I think they just feel that with their the personally have that there -- time. He was there is getting. Now you talk about noon particular Mayo you said. In the line backing -- he going to be happy with what you've seen him no doubt. No doubt I'd love -- you know come in and in the -- they went through more of fourth theory yeah and allowed no problem keeping him in the middle no known. No I think he'd be great in fact I think you know with you know. A healthy Vince Wilfork and would Jerod Mayo playing behind him that's pretty tough to run against up the -- I don't care who I don't care who's blocking. Under what Lamine blocking you get by Wilfork and you got males in their. You may mean that just makes a lot of and you want you trying to to create the team and molded to your ranks. I have to think that would be a straight right up the middle if you played you know into town to down tackles. Play one if you want over the nose guard what you put in somebody like that I'm Warren next to -- right. And and then you got mail back them up that's pretty strong. That's pretty strong got to admit. You know so I'm just you know again. Work kind of client here in the you know and play with -- because hey that's what we're. All they did you -- exactly but you know to me it just it makes a lot of sense and I wouldn't be all surprised he some kind of a all the shift like that and I'm kind of curious why may be that shift has happened well. I like that they did that sort of mix it up in San Francisco they came out and out of the gates with four alignment that we thought -- this is great days there were rushing the quarterback a lot dating it. A whole lot of sacks but they oppression got a lot of great pressure they had him scrambling around throwing on the run and trying to skate the collapsing pocket. And it worked. And against different San Diego. And -- really any -- Yorkers. You know he stood there and pick them apart so. I'd like to see more can -- in the in the pass rush getting descending people. Ending you know Thomas when winning -- that four alignment a configuration Thomas and that leaving the edge and coming in the middle a lot of times. I think he's been making plays on the outside. From you know from what I've in the last few games last year Leon I can't this year. -- that's why we got a town that we. Yeah he could be an edge rusher right in you put him on one people Vrabel on the other and then you get after that when I was expecting this year I am and we have seen now. Not at all so I think that's what's somewhat troubling. Maybe they third feel like. I don't know maybe they elected. They've had to keep them back because of glove you know run the I don't know but those guys generally run defenders which is what is somewhat troubling. You know that's why I'm -- look at it so you know they're playing Monday night against a quarterback who. They haven't. Faced before right Cutler Cutler wasn't tell he wasn't playing. The quarterback was now it was. Lose the -- yes it was one of them on nine and Cutler was a rookie. -- of the last game last on the Internet -- so. You Belichick traditionally has. Done well against quarterbacks that never faced the fences before. That's another reason but he's a Mandy boy he's a smart guy yes I'm yeah he definitely isn't playing better nobody -- that he found -- And is treating it. I guess how much that that's that's -- and again I'm apologist for jumping them but I I'd. Just wanted to debris of the point that here's a guy that is. Playing -- selling in what he does with type one diabetes and I think he's a tremendous credit. But to him. And into that actually everywhere shows you that you can do yeah and he if you're hurt his conference call with the New England media the other day which we'll be hearing later on this program Leo. He today. I think he eat it. Even admitted to but he's -- in the game of -- questions about maybe it's because the sickness has become the focus of yeah -- rather than how it's playing but I think what he needs to do Mangini kind of -- that are relevant and -- felt as you know on the on a pedestal for diabetic. You know everywhere and people within the you know these and I can show them that hey you can manage the I don't think he has quite the outlook like that just yet well. And also could be that it's in season you know maybe that's an off season. That he would and he goes on with diabetes. Diabetes is -- we you know army and dislike. You know professional athlete I would argue professional athlete Israel after realize they have already they realize the dealing with the media part of the job. Comes with being a professional -- deal with the media -- and like it -- the -- learn how to deal with. And whether he likes or not he's going to learn how to deal -- diabetes part of his life is like playing football is a part of his life I would argue."

[30:25]" You should go hand in hand. Well understand the it. If you listen to on it sounds like he's getting tired of it yet you know so he's maybe it maybe it's getting. It's called in to called maturity here count. -- young guy. He's millions billions -- maturity that's true have a little so that's another reason why I think maybe this game is coming at the right time they're coming to pitcher coming off a loss and a very uncharacteristic loss. And they're playing a team that then there are a lot of advantages even though they're you know on paper may look like the Seymour gets in trouble. I think this this could be the right tonic for them at this point but. Having said that. The Patriots they'll I don't think have the type of identity that they had at this point last year right on either side of the ball. On offense I think I don't think they know they're at thirty point scoring team now don't they don't is very true or indifference if they can hold teams that it's of that a you know one week they do another week they they get burned by one particular play and now that's happened twice in their and their two losses they've gotten beat. Basically I want particular play you know it again and it was his Rivers throwing the ball -- of Jackson or Lloyd or whoever was pitching. That point against Miami it was Ronnie Brown during his. His razor back off and over there."

[31:46]" But then against other teams like -- handle -- while Ken yeah. Although the reservation for you to pretty well Darren McFadden right yeah. So I don't think this team really has. He -- itself out. That's that's that's my that is that definite and we're getting close -- points and then you you'd like to think that the team began to get some kind of an identity. When you get to this point in the season and we haven't had that -- positive performance could go a long way on Monday via a negative performance in the -- going to be doubting it will be even more. You know this we're we're arriving at -- I don't want to appoint -- a return or arriving that I I think distinctive point in the season where. You know if these -- continues to struggle for a few weeks you know playoffs definitely going to be and Jeff I think we talked about it a few weeks ago maybe one -- on. The first quarter of the season the first four games you get a sense of where your team -- sure. Bye week eight at the midway point pretty much usually don't know are not a team you have beaten and then by the the third quarter of the season you. No way and be in the playoffs are currently in the is and this week this right. Well we weeks six for the Patriots right seven. -- seven overall overall he had not getting close that we gave point where you kinda have to know what kind of New York don't think they really know them. It's a it's a two crucial point of the season beacon of Russell he's going to. Join us coming up here about that ten minutes yourself in the meantime I'll rocket and -- here and scatter shooting and a lot of different subject but we certainly are taking a look at the the Patriots in the Denver Broncos. On here at Gillette on Monday night if you want to join the conversation to be of some questions. Far away web radio at Patriots dot com or email address we want your predictions. -- for for Monday night. Man you guys your predictions but you know YE you know. Tech -- you wanted to with the people think Ottawa advanced it right because generally I think that you you get a pretty good idea."

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[40:06]" NFL research courted -- in will be joining us here momentarily. On in the meantime web radio at Patriots dot com you reaches on the program score predictions Monday night let's go get to go what do you think. Did you pick by the way -- I think they're going to at their records for most of the game I think on the winning touchdown by touchdowns though like what 27 -- twenty -- Point 8111. -- score I'll go to. Yeah point seven points on okay. I don't Paul had 2724. Patriots yeah I heard that went right now I'm only -- like a 2724 Broncos. That's what I think. -- game that will be cannibal for the Patriots. Winnable game should be able to keep it close something instantly because -- come back home. But like I explained to you earlier in the program until I actually see it. It's going to be hard for me to go the other way so I guess I'm going to a little bit or what I I think they're going to fall to three and three that doesn't mean though that I don't think that I think the season's over. You know on them get well against Lois you know I think they'll find a way to at least be competitive if not win -- believe you're not just because I think it's and and there have an extra right right although they almost they go well or is it looked like. You mentioned Eric -- The the PFW mailbag has been getting still a lot of donated. A lot of -- they told about. Putting and O'Connell. I'll ask it's why are people to haranguing them that have and we not satisfied. There're. Their appetite for a you know the quarterback controversy but trying to defuse that is that."

[41:47]" Plus I I think what fans when when you get a guy. Lake O'Connell who is a high high draft pick -- you know. -- exit date Wednesday to Newton but. Because the third round third round. But that's still pretty high pick first three rounds -- I've beaten and and they haven't drafted a guy that -- at that position. Bledsoe happily. When you have a situation like that and the kid had the kid was was raved about in and in the lead up to the draft all of them during the become I'm process. His stock Rose continuously up until the Patriots and he was a four year starter San Diego State for your captain -- state. Verses. Cast a situation where he's been here for a few years we've seen what he can do fans you know it was mostly the pre season but. What we've seen in the regular season has not been much different than what we've seen from him in past three seasons. So I think when you combine those two I think fans kind of our. You know in the Brady out there figuring hate. We know what we have already with Cassell let's see what we have the O'Connell they don't really know what they've got and what little they have seen of him. He's come in and thrown touchdown granted it was against. Third team is at the end of the game but -- Robert Smith that's what that's what people's impressions are is that this kid has played has experience and can make place. So I think that's you don't people I've gotten a little impatient. Because they're used their medals spoiled with the team having won all these games in this decade now I think. They're just desperate for something to give them a spark and and who's always at the the the most popular guy and a football team on a losing team the backup quarterback and backup quarterback. Right now that backup ms. O'Connell and I think. People want something to give them hope I think they don't have Volek. What do they think they don't have that with -- I think they want to see the rookie do something. I have to admit that. I believe. -- that."

[43:44]" All three stooges."

[43:49]" Very good. Okay that means that means that the third -- to join the -- up up up up. I could take that -- I would not take that getting down."

[44:00]" Well I am sitting down and Eric -- Walt walker and Gary is what lit a fire here yeah yeah and I gave them out of the curly variety. Well I don't know if they shoot like in the little who fly. Broadcast who your favorite their old Martha without a doubt we shoot. All very got a -- the the least known of them kill you champion. Yeah -- you can goalie -- of the show was the worst to ever know it was great I loved him. Champ by the will be starting for the Patriots this weekend. And that's actually listened to show the last -- I would Larry got by the way where he'll get I'll -- early I'll go early. Yeah -- that's who made the it was always angry he -- let it is always angry and realism and all I gotta have a lot you know Larry was the only -- until it will let a bit you know maybe."

[44:56]" ABC did he meet for TV movie about three stooges wanted to go for five years ago and it everything that happened. We need you know. Did this story itself fascinating. To hear how they were just kind of forgotten. And -- actually make a comeback and you know kinda get what they deserved it and and all the stuff that you know all that laughter everything they've brought to put a lot of people. And they almost kind of what by the wayside much like you know this Stuart like bluegrass school stuff like that group all of those guys could disappear like you know that a lot of those early comedy actually kinda. You know just faded away and stuff but if memory certainly -- Mel Gibson is an enormous. Three stooges fan and always manages to get something in the legal weapon movies some reference to them yeah but -- it's hard it's hard to get. Larry curly and -- and Braveheart. -- they would just kind of got bumped off."

[45:49]" That's an NL for my generation. Growing up watching the scooby doo cartoons right. When there was there was there was an an era when scooby do you characterized. Celebrities of the time and put them in the cartoons."

[46:04]" Probably the end right and -- just made it and I want let's say 100 that there wasn't a student scored and I mean they were you know they were. But the they were equally popular stuff they've given what. All right see he's right on top of it today later this ordinance QB do music and everything appreciative professional producer back unbelievable just shocking. So Russell how --"

[46:28]" Olympics operate at what -- pretty interesting week or have a National Football League educated Dallas no kidding where we think -- kind of landed yeah. You know if it's somebody with a leading some Hollywood coming can't handle -- who didn't really kind of that the focal point and so on."

[46:44]" Yeah absolutely I won't touch on that but I wanted to at least per start with so that -- and Howard were jumping into. Fact is that you were still getting and he in particular because he does a lot of the answering of the Patriots football weekly mailbag the emails in the in the regular mail -- come in every week. If fans will want to he Kevin O'Connell. As opposed to Matt Cassel Corvette the Patriots and and I noticed that you know you're -- Patriot -- the end John Clayton. And nice article on dot com as we talking about how back -- quarterbacks are certainly getting you know they're due and their share of time. Blooded unless of course your name is. I guess Terry Collins they're not really having a lot of success."

[47:26]" Elliott listened there's there's what you want and then there's what happens in Scotland. -- refer back to you know last Sunday night so watch out. For those people looking for Kevin O'Connell -- covered deep."

[47:39]" That's all day. You know what I what you goat and what does that mean -- let you know good stroke probably I saw about you saw a lot of long."

[47:47]" Long pass completions and I didn't see Matt Cassell the back -- you know did without any ability that I know you know a lot of -- afterwards you know down -- by the goal line immunity to get it and so on but that's not really I think with the game was lost and so on."

[48:03]" You know that we don't know there was one aspect of it. -- play it well like Johnson early if you can put all the blame on -- but the way they play."

[48:11]" He can -- you can never put -- at all one person that once again political wood to a game can be ten turnovers. And stuff I mean that's like football it is the way it is and so -- you just can't. -- somewhat point horrendously yank them that they get there and so on but I don't think that was the case I think you know San Diego came out and you know -- the big plays and put the Patriot back on their heels very very early that it became a different football game the week before with the Patriots but the 49ers. Kind of on their heels and stuff so there's a lot of the flow of the go to would apology well now would so wouldn't. -- no you know after the Jets game is you know Matt Cassel doing just enough. And it suddenly two or three weeks later we want Kevin O'Connell well. You know welcome to things having your regular quarterback. For the -- and."

[48:56]" Fans are as fickle as they come. And get a couple weeks so what are respect quarterback and -- he won not by the way just just root for those that want what keeps score and -- and you're probably where these numbers. Com. Last year in the -- 63 different quarterbacks -- only got dark that an accurate TO."

[49:16]" I'm going to double check that I have my moaned low in media India chart that I do and then -- America -- the street and close. I know you're quote succeeded 62. -- 664 actually it's okay before and 21 different teams okay started at least two quarterbacks all right. And I know -- Jeter venom. I want to say it was 89 or ten started to reach in two. Carolina it's inconsistent start for close your averaging two quarterbacks were pretty. Much. You're keeping in mind that Brett Favre and Peyton Manning to breed and Tom Brady played older player last year I basically to guys like. You know Drew Brees and Carson Palmer that was like they did Eli Manning you know those I think going into the -- go to the top six active streaks and yeah. You know of course. You know to those sight of -- you know Brady of course you know and Carson Palmer -- who was just steady starters now -- and -- so."

[50:14]" Well this week through six week."

[50:18]" 43. Correct with eleven with -- I -- okay I attended was sitting ten team since he started to -- more of course Kansas City started to break right still heavily you don't even have with these and you more than halfway to the number of cornerbacks -- one year. Welcome to the battle arbitration called -- now and imagery quarterbacks threw well that's what did you have kind of curious like -- it's already dirt. Quarterback played we can't keep them healthy Woody's what -- that. There's."

[50:46]" And and we want to change again I mean you know it was recorded -- time we actually talking to -- good friend of of of both of ours now while -- Ron Jaworski that I. A dark yet you know the alternate football bet he really is and and I asked him what's it look you know we're still talking about Cassel -- your thought it could you please tell us what you honestly think. Of Matt Cassel and he thought you know I'm paraphrasing here with a jackass was clearly the best. And really only option the Patriots had a quarterback over the Brady said and of course -- going to pale in comparison the -- You know you're trying to you compared him to a guy who's going to be a sure fire hall of Famer. You know early NN the white castle."

[51:24]" And by the way how long did it take for -- to establish a career. Took you pretty much the whole year at least you know after he had to pick up Drew Bledsoe right at least and longer it's a problem I would say even longer you voted into okay. It'll make the playoffs."

[51:39]" That's correct they got to a three don't start one of 97 it didn't make it right. And it taco Bill Belichick about six or seven years of finally. -- had him run the style offense you know which which I think -- Why AT -- the Patriots played the way they played like you're would letting Tom Brady. Really trying to go pretty camp you know that's the thing is in the -- the Patriots during their fourth Super Bowl appearances. Is you know their style of play changed at every one of them. You know -- first Super Bowl team was brilliant piece at a boring and it's special teams make plays they've got just enough -- dry ice. Tom Brady did just that he kicks from Vinatieri to win. You know they were. Does it notably think they'll stack. And they -- just -- Antowain Smith also -- Brady was doing an oak forest but they were perfectly balanced. You know they had the power running of Corey Dillon. And they had efficient passing the Brady. Then of course last year you know they put up unprecedented numbers disturbed that style buffet it's why they stayed good as long as they have because they're so hard to defense -- you never know what you're going to get. With the New England Patriots and so on but in order to -- the style offense with Tom Brady did last year at the trusted Bill Belichick had in him. It took them six or seven years. To develop that trust him we're asking for Matt Cassel to all of a sudden become Tom Brady in the span of four weeks and I can happen. You would -- the level of the that it isn't going to happen."

[53:08]" with -- panic. They're really yeah I'm not baited by you gotta if you could read some of these emails I can you repeat them I'm sure you can't. But I'm sure they cut out from magazines lettered in newspaper -- I had like eight to a piece of paper you'll find mr. cat out the clock out right at people it just they're in the panic button and it. You know we're getting to that."

[53:31]" Point where we have to figure what kind of team we have but. It it's not all on his shoulders. Of the that's the way they're playing it's not all -- all. You know I mean our guys I -- eight I'd I would really like to -- O'Connell got some more reps in meaningful. Games and it meaningful points in the game but. You know and you know until -- really shows that he can't operate the offense. And has -- in the case he's he's played decently he hasn't been Tom Brady. Hardly anybody in the league is. But until he proves that he's losing games for them I think you have to try to continue to go with who you think is the best guy that's -- That's that's him and if that team and that they need -- 97. What you don't have Tom Brady you knew it was going to be there wasn't going to be a sixteen and elegant. But fans of panic there."

[54:22]" Well that's good reason I mean I understand the panic indeed because of the success with your head. As the French had an unprecedented X its successes as of late. But the bottom line and what's not only be MVP but the ultimate similarity here. And tell you wasserman and basically first quarter of the season. Very first quarter of this season and that this and there's not and should not much you can do about to hit all the sub point at first season. And then suddenly going to turn out I would be you know unfortunately. For Patriots fans they still have visions of first season when Tom Brady -- and to think he can be duplicated well."

[55:01]" Here's the thing that it will never know the answer to this obviously but I wonder if the reaction. What have been the way it it's been so far if the Patriots have beaten Giants in the Super Bowl."

[55:15]" That's a great question now it is that's a great question and I would answer by saying -- I don't think snapped. Because I think there's more of that feeling of desperation. -- winning another Super Bowl yeah. Because they didn't win last year Gundy didn't finish up that -- today and it's as if they had it would have been a clear cut. Team of the decade or Super Bowl undefeated I agree I agree aren't you -- there."

[55:38]" Okay and we run in and you know maybe -- maybe that's just yet yeah idea that that's a great question."

[55:44]" That -- to soften the blow a little bit but I think because they didn't and Bruschi came back and Vrabel and Harrison came back in a Roma and they were going to. We're going to make another run with that enough juice left. And then Brady goes out I think people are really desperate fans at least there are are more desperate than they would agree sure financial ethnic and."

[56:02]" I know Adam Everett right February -- academia the -- very true. I -- yesterday I think it's -- law of averages catching up with you fans of new England sports teams. The Red Sox notwithstanding tonight. You know into it could be just between the Celtics won it last yeah no kidding no Canadian Ray Allen -- quarterback. Maybe the reds can pull off the pass and finally don't hold your breath right. Com that there a couple of games that I'm really look before washing on Sunday and one of them is San Diego and Buffalo. Very intriguing for a lot of obvious reason or Arnold wants out of -- yeah Buffalo's on top of the division sure but yeah I wouldn't know why you wouldn't be a charger fan for this particular game because it directly helped New England but I think a lot of people -- to see how Buffalo compares even though they get San Diego at home to what happened the Patriots last week don't think Russell."

[56:51]" Others -- doubt about it I mean you know -- he'd seen Diego will get a one week they're getting shackled by the Dolphins in Miami and then a week later they're pulling out delinquent. Unpredictability has really been a big part of that you're allowed to do with. That'd be. Erratic play either desensitized but it -- Shawne Merriman this year. That almost seems like it's forgotten it's played we want -- that we haven't heard from Vincennes. But -- dale about the dale they've been really really tough team to gauge it and you know. Do what you look at -- perverse. Who you know really had -- Emerges a real tough guy quarterback -- be I think a lot of people. Album gained a lot of respect for him last year than playing. Injured in the AFC championship game I think up until then. You know again that division to that game against Denver where he's kind of -- ought to Jay Cutler across the field and I think that kind of put him in a bad light. And then you just realize it's more about his fire and it's not about just being you know lack of better word smart ass. He's a real fiery guy. Oh yeah and and against Colts and they beat the Colts he was well absolutely and I think there were assisting it out he kinda. For people not knowing including myself enjoy watching on TV he he he almost can't -- at the wrong way. And then yet I think so instead he cut understood what he's really really title -- stuff. But Debbie instead to have very unpredictable San Diego team. -- The buffaloes got a couple weeks to think about giving you know smacked around in Arizona the gravity -- Trent Edwards or be our third place. I became. A -- and all the -- and you know listen it's been a rough let's put this west. Go to Arizona has been rough on quarterbacks. Protect you. The last the last few guys that you know starting game you know got hurt there in Edwards an out Tony Romo -- talk about that later as well -- This and this is almost a tough call. You know you watch LaDainian Tomlinson rugby guy Donovan agree with me if there's. They're just seems like there's still that little bit hesitation -- and you know he's that the toe injury Indian peoples Sato -- you know that. -- those slash dislocated toe. That you know when you try to play it you can't cut and you saw that last week -- a lot of time you've seen it every week window to. He just doesn't seem like he's gonna -- that had a -- He doesn't have that kind of heated and had an explosion. You don't eat what you see him around a quarter now you'd think you'd speed Claude I think it was going to catch."

[59:21]" Well you know that's what kind of surprised me about. Bill said his game plan was going incidents San Diego game my that they wanted to take Tomlinson noise. And I kinda surprised me because what you said he'd been nicked up they knew that he didn't have that extra step that he had before. And you're hurting you that San Diego's receiving corps was a little bit nicked up too. Well why not try to take the big play of way from Rivers want to try to go after Rivers and take away the only other option. They instead focused on Tomlinson who already wasn't a full a 100%. To begin went. But that was there may not that."

[1:00:00]" Their main concern it was interesting he said that the you know the Chargers receiving corps nicked up I wish to proceeded to have Chris Chambers. But they did give up about weight back up and wait like Vincent Jackson -- are bigger receiver. Andy you know especially Floyd and you release on that I could be an edge over -- right you know I don't think there's any question about you saw the games he saw him play last year. You know he's one of those guys -- are not. Not like Plaxico Burress. But it's been you know the style guard who can literally reach -- and catch a pass to left a lot of times we did in -- as a vehicle. Jump up ought to seek. To catch the ball in the air -- can be pretty daunting for an undersized. Deep big putt that mean -- you know they didn't give -- a lot of heat on the until -- last week. You know the Chargers doubled them. They get that also had the big play gets the most well thought they just put a lot of pressure on the last week it's. -- will be interesting to see if seed because people didn't seem to the Buffalo because Buffalo was cut that I would say the blood ever said -- defensive --"

[1:01:02]" average. Well average yes -- bomb Baltimore and Miami. I'm a little I have to admit I am. Surprised at Baltimore struggle the way they have maybe maybe some of their quarterback issues are our horror causing him to be as inconsistent. As they are obviously we're talking about a album Miami is what rising. But are you not at least a little bit and at this point is not the right word and used maybe is a better word by Baltimore performance the Florida to a three."

[1:01:33]" Well they got off to a good start against you know Cleveland and in Cincinnati. And now they kind of more hit and needed some you know formidable teams. Obviously but more so is you're now starting to get a little bit vocal with Joe Flacco can do and more importantly can't do it. I regarding his her commitment really haven't had bit. Consistent running game which will -- ATP Indianapolis wind like fullback LeRon McClain. It leads the team in rushing into good -- like guys and so on but you're not seen him get -- 20/20 five times a game that can't help the quarterback being a rookie quarterback. -- experienced quarterback last week the Colts came about. And you know really hit them right in the mouth and so -- early to challenge them. -- deep. Got some big plays in the once it was you know what's the the Ravens got behind and -- Detroit Freeney Robert Mathis he had off. On the on the Joe Flacco you do which could be bad afternoon protect -- and and and that's you know the struggles of of rookie quarterback. But I think there's just a lot of pieces missing -- Baltimore right now. Com they're not a they're not complete team did not complete -- healthy team. And I think for them to challenge in the -- board they need more pieces helped the defense looks pretty solid again did have a great game last week. But you know they eat a healthy running game to alter that he had experience reflect."

[1:02:57]" And then now the other divisional opponent just playing at Oakland. -- the Jets are three and chose -- the Jets certainly going to make a play for grabs the top of the division as soon as this week is this game the things we winnable for them on the road you think."

[1:03:10]" Well you would think so you know -- loaded -- too many historical notes here you know when you think Jets Oakland would will what do you think of John."

[1:03:19]" Oh gosh I think of a lot of things. That are important here but I think -- I'm 1960. Want. Well into the city -- yeah hiding all the Heidi game that's right 68. Yep that's right 68."

[1:03:31]" Sixty of course -- he does that later in the AFL championship teams that won the Super Bowl here."

[1:03:37]" Could could we ask for NBC to play now -- today just -- and."

[1:03:41]" I think we're going to do the height he's like story at the masters yeah. Just going to bring a more modern."

[1:03:46]" That is CBS game on Sundays and we had to be instant in a --"

[1:03:50]" Yeah well apology should be -- so we just don't lose it you know courses are also -- return Oakland like Hambrecht of course played Oakland was set. You know collect the better -- cable Monday night game the day after his father died the sound is important -- readers for almost 400 yards and they get a lot of more emotional games. You'll ever see the standpoint of you know it actually really overcoming some personal tragedy. But modern text. You know the Raiders last week who -- really played one for Tom cable. In New Orleans closely -- pray 34 disarray. And looked a little lifeless and doing such a intelligent. -- be. Problems that Al Davis supposedly Ortiz to have with played Kiffin. In the forty games compared to Raiders were competitive football team and they were fired fifty. But if you watched how they played they might not have the body. But at least completely different you know -- could -- the -- For Tom cable last week they've looked very dysfunctional. And the Jets stated just stay just dusty didn't get a lot out of your bread last week because three touchdowns and Tom Jones spread through problem intersection -- because when -- Fighter out -- so one but. He does this is big game if the Jets are gonna steady in the AFC east race. He can't go across the country and let one get away from yeah. He should beat the Raiders -- the last three times they played. As we felt that last week in the sleek AK Rams Redskins they keep Brown's giant right. Probably take your pick would have few other. You're they'll give me I don't care what the other record as you know Kansas City in Denver we've done that -- a couple of weeks ago so. In this league when you're expected to win sometimes it's harder in the game where you're not expect to went."

[1:05:33]" Boy who. In their right mind would want to take that Raiders coach. When it comes again Eric I think it'd Oregon and it Micah -- mind. Yeah. Who would no one in the right I didn't utley -- wrong yeah pretty much I mean our guys some ice some C. Corey Feldman with Eddie jar with a brain named as being normal yeah."

[1:05:57]" Yeah that's pretty much in -- It is that you wasted spot. Who's going to take that what by the way what's the rumor going around there about Madden. In rejoining the that's the front office. -- like not true that's why I didn't make a trip this way holy -- we were talking about on the previous show was the you know. He might be offered something in the front office there. -- in my -- on the field no kidding. No kidding he certainly learned about the onside might as well I mean I like I I know I'd be completely dumbfounded by that."

[1:06:31]" So would I but I noticed rate a great help more people want within the bad video game with the Raiders have won the last five --"

[1:06:38]" That's true but you know what he might be the only person who could take over the coaching job and not have it be a distraction to the players -- to him the coach. Okay but how long has -- been coach I know but. Davis might not mind he might not mind if if if that was the case."

[1:06:55]" The thirty year it did when did he retire. Last year 79. So here are 778. -- Lester could grief downpours over 79 and didn't want to Super Bowl and eighty exactly their hands that's only only twice as long as Dick vermeil took off when he came back in one who broke the Rams from. And -- that's very correct yes. Now. That would be a shock -- if there ever was one."

[1:07:21]" That's why you stay behind us we couldn't make the trip that concludes the Tampa for the maybe he's going over the roster. Looking for and looking for they'll they'll be you don't want to wipe out there you know."

[1:07:31]" And such a -- it wouldn't surprise me if that's what ends up. You mentioned earlier Russell we get started here about the other week that it has been for the Dallas Cowboys and his team that you know could be seeing. Themselves begin that downward spiral as well although they got to play at St. Louis this week St. Louis to get their first win of the year last week. The -- was able hold this together because it does seem like things like like -- or lose it you know on you know from the from the training wheels so to speak."

[1:07:59]" Well I mean you have the Adam Jones saga. You have rookie Felix Jones is going to -- about. Value lost a partner last week in the overtime game eat out for the season for the Pro Bowl punter Mat McBriar and he lost a wide receiver -- hurt you gave the wide receiver because. Now that you're getting rid of Jones is you are stocking up on Roy Williams system. In -- on your team."

[1:08:21]" Are -- going to work the jerseys. And they. I think they'll be getting an NL. As a Roy eat at a Roy you know I believe that would be great have an entire. An entire team on the back that your English and then it changes need -- and I think it's simple truce which which candidate or Rogers. -- would be you know much. Singing Cowboys -- calculated somewhat of a long way to go prepared joked he was the Hamptons. You'll appreciate that Tony Romo put you know Tony Romo. Let's see our -- I believe he is throwing the football elect candidate. And it's not. Set in stone that he's not -- to play now this Sunday at St. what did he called Brett Favre broke sparkled on here I think this story with no regrets at all I have. What was what was he doing them that the case."

[1:09:11]" I think there's -- admiration that goes on with Tony and Brett. And so I think that's that's simply cases and I would he'll -- read between the lines and saying okay we got a broken pinkie. I don't know put words more encouraging or more pep talk of hey if you could play you need to and I played with a lot itself and so -- and I think. I don't think -- example golden necessarily get a quarterback letters but a lot of discussion about -- largest being banged up like Greg called -- I think it's because. You know who will close this story's over what are realizing far. And a little further other quarterbacks that I idolize so far but they -- have a relationship and if that's what goes on all the time people you know. What Troy Aikman was the Dallas Cowboys quarterback. And turn your head left. Okay yeah they talk to each other even though Norv Turner would be head coach of the Washington Redskins. Okay yeah I mean do you think it was any surprise that Norv Turner was the person who deducted Troy Aikman into the pro football team. When he went and a couple of years ago he has Michael or retirement Specter Jimmy Johnson or Jerry county this sort turner."

[1:10:21]" But other but it but is it wise to make those kind of conversations public."

[1:10:25]" I don't know if that was necessarily. Yeah I don't know everything becomes public now would you like it or not unfortunately. And so on and in some -- they think that wasn't public. Who knows who well like it would of taken on -- sound so I've ever read it read too much. Until it needs to know a lot you know obviously it's usually Eric and so on I think would be more unusual stiffer. It's for the Jets are playing at a Cowboys this week that I really think it was a mutual and but I I think because there's a little. Admiration society because there you know I've I've thought about going to get too. Hyped up about it to be made it to be honest with you -- oral Woolsey with a capital C Tony place on the odd like you're in -- are your dad -- and I because. If you if you if you think about it didn't think about. On the competitive nature of football in general and and god has it changed from thirty years ago -- you know -- you know some guys who needed help the other guys up. That would seem a million or more the players look out for each other effort that than ever before -- I think that's a -- big but it's certainly different. That was 2030 years ago when it was much more intense and so now it's morbid business even for the players. As well. I don't disagree with that -- I mean as far as the after effects go. He'd be different they were you know it didn't check. I'm sorry -- Packers and the Cowboys were playing this week in -- called don't need to get some insights supplement Packard who then I think I'd be. You know yeah against Vicente that would really you moved to Nokia contract with people on the list of wash it out space of a good team on --"

[1:12:06]" pop up on -- I'll make you argue. You are throwing back -- it that are I thought I don't -- him -- welcome to give that -- number we -- that after the big one it was not in -- in Indianapolis at Green Bay do we even more of of the real cold team or at least the Colts team that. You know you know we all thought maybe you could be last week."

[1:12:31]" Well I think it's Colts game that's trying to get familiar with -- each other they they accepted defected and -- boxing in the for a while. That being said. Now all of a sudden they're giving you different team again because it just the guys could be up for a couple of weeks. With a partially torn hamstring and Mike Hart that you know the rookie from Michigan won their backup running back he's out for the year with a hamstring. Injuries well also blast from the past you big cut before the year started Dominic Rhodes and comedy is not dominant Dominic donor place without any road won't have to carry the load. Against the Green -- eighteen to -- itself back. On kilter last week after winning at Seattle and -- the last time these two teams played was four years ago and I don't you guys who remembered which she gap between getting and far. -- and Javon Walker to big date for the Packers 4531. At Indianapolis of course now walker -- vote on indeed gone but I tell you one thing. If Aaron Rodgers is proven that he's pretty good quarterback. And a notre -- go to went sixteen to -- Because it's been tough. The guy he's played hurt. Com that the guy is not only been pretty accurate but -- the Packers running game which has been virtually nonexistent. Okay they had four rushing touchdowns this year three by -- Rogers. One of them were by Brett -- great has scored a touchdown. This year that was you know that you really big hold -- country injury. Yeah they got -- over the Packers are really -- themselves this year is their offense and decent supply did not play that well -- Terrible time trying to stop the run to put more pressure on the offense. You go to games and Aaron Rodgers and plus he's the -- a lot. So this is a team that is not a team that's not living up to -- If you could make the case the only guy who was literally exceeding expectations Green Bay right now is the guy everybody -- was was most worried about that character."

[1:14:27]" Yeah yeah a point or point. Aren't we touched on last week's opponent the Patriots we've even touched on next week's opponent the Rams. We looked at all the divisional opponents that are playing games this week and we have yet talk about this week it felt no it's the burger big deal Monday night the ESP and when -- game. Patriots accurate home at Gillette against the Denver Broncos and we're Denver comes in leading the west at four and two. But they to a come probable loss after losing 2470 to Jacksonville well last week and you know what your taken -- what are your what are your compatriots they're in -- in in your neck of the woods. It is and Russell well what are your thoughts on all of a sudden. The last three games. Denver finding it really hard to put points on the board after starting off the first three games -- like gangbusters."

[1:15:13]" Yeah I want to say radio what 34 more each of the first three games less than twenty in the last three games that's correct okay thank you so. Solve a lot of that has anything to do with the fact it even when they were winning their defense to stop playing very well. And now teams are learning that even though if you fall behind which does what I love about. The coaches to really get it even if you -- they don't fourteen not -- or 21 nothing. But the opposition can't stop the run don't stop running that's how you'll actually get back into the game. And Denver is not very stout on the decent blind. They don't rush the passer overly well they don't stop the run very well even in the games they want to they have a lot of deep sense of issues. And Jackson awarded to the building -- in Jacksonville coming off a loss to Pittsburgh. One up to Denver -- the the second straight year new -- we challenged you know. It's not a good thing if you remember this the one -- double Rees Jones Drew had last week along I think 46 yarder. You can Denver defenders racing you know trying to chase him into the end zone. And Troy Williamson. The onetime viking. You know wide receiver that we -- bill. Actually deep into Denver defenders who were chasing. But reached George true into the end zone as well so when your defensive guys. -- not only not catch the ball carrier public can't catch the blocker. -- the trailing blocker. Did you got some problems defensively and you know depending on how do we replace this. Now they should be able to control the ball against the Denver beat bad. Defensively for New England they're going to have to play better they played. You know -- laying -- last week as well. There's no doubt the Denver can put points on the board. It's certain situations but the problem is that Big -- get behind to get -- to a back and forth game. That's what Denver's going to get -- trouble in -- mark was a big physical receiver. Hopefully for them they have Eddie Royal back this week hopefully -- them they have Tony Scheffler back this week. But I think -- Wesley also Jay Cutler that big strong arm is to keep Denver's offense off the field. And I think which that way Denver Steve let's just play that's been it's been steady. Okay you know I think -- probably their best defensive game -- today and that's what Brian Griese got hurt and suddenly they're playing against Jeff Garcia. But they disrupt the run all year. I think you know our actual what's going all would Laurence Maroney up their true that's been a topic of discussion with you guys going and so on. Well but Sammy Morris. LaMont Jordan if he's playing this week a -- his health status as well I know he's hit some. Injury problems audit -- is that's stable of big back. That's just the kind of tonic that would be bad news for Denver defense that again. Not great on the defensive line and not very good against the --"

[1:18:07]" Here's what scares me the most though about the Patriots. Going against Denver's defense while Denver certainly looks to be deepens the could be susceptible to give it up. Fact is that a lot of -- and -- squad on the -- because majority -- their passes -- in the flat. They're under ten yards and right teams can sit there played eight in the box or nine in the box and you know pretty particular reason. And an and the and the Patriots are thrown right into their weakness the Patriots can't stretch the field and they can't go up the middle right now. And so that's why until I hit I I'm just mentioned the Patriots can do."

[1:18:42]" Well I think -- deacons sit there for the taking. It's just the better despite hopeful -- New England plays if they're going to take it. I don't think days and they want to come out here and played a wide open type of thing against Denver because could they do have some respectable. Defensive backs -- good linebacker DJ Williams and so on. So depending on how the you know want to attack that way but I just think it's -- go to might be boring you know but I go go go check it. Title throw the ball 25 times a game. Reported -- consecutive times but he did you know couple years ago on a Monday night. What's this thing Nikkei compliment just what the ball. The entire time because plays that would give Denver on its heels and -- that. You know based target the Denver very very early that's where the play action passing and the deep passes will open up as the safeties in the deep these are crowding the line."

[1:19:34]" Something that and on defense the Patriots have to get him in Cutler space. Even if they don't second they have to do with it it's."

[1:19:42]" I have absolutely no doubt the taxes -- a lot of times he dealt with -- city you know -- that with a -- speed. Tampa last year and their first playoff game you know what route to their super program they checked Jeff Garcia Erica one time. They -- The eleventh time. Yeah get rattled the wall -- up eleven times he would be on eleven spots. It -- about the third of his attempts where he went down on the ground. And so on that's really what you want to do you know it doesn't always have to be it sex sometimes sex -- are great but sometimes sex can be decide deceptive if you're given up each. And you don't get a quarterback but you get in Norman it's -- that ball goes that it be -- but the fact but it probably touchdown the other way."

[1:20:25]" Let me also bring of one of the matchup that I think was probably will see some time. On Monday night and again part of the reason why am I'm concerned. From a Patriots perspective is Randy Moss. I'm guessing is going to be in time against Champ Bailey. Now I don't know depending on the line on the football I don't know if you're -- why you wouldn't want to put it -- law since nobody has been throwing against Champ -- the offensively this year EI I don't think you're going to put Dre -- up against him plus if you put Champ -- up against -- you probably can get away -- single coverage we go help out elsewhere and again that just cuts off another opportunity for the Patriots."

[1:21:00]" Yeah you know -- believed outstanding in the years what have those. Lapses where it seemed to keep can't throw at him John. And then on the other -- it's -- like growing. And depending on it you know how the early Chelsea goes. You know politics is wondered to those. You know when you're attacking a decent sometimes there's that school a lot of counting them and then there's also the school people -- sisco walked right away. And see what they're made out the -- didn't address things down you know so there's one of two ways you know I think against Denver I think the preference is probably. Two -- at the little because they just haven't proven -- consistent basis that they could stop anybody from running. And that -- your -- time where you want to attempt you know attacked them long. With bought three -- the tight outfielder so what do we really haven't seen. A lot of that type and production. The Patriots. You know it's yeah. That the and that's you know that's that's kinda interesting because you know Benoit and I know he's been in you know you guys know more about his -- but I do armies -- it was."

[1:22:06]" The first couple weeks -- and they and they actually utilized him -- blocking. Scheme over the last few weeks that they felt like they've needed the help from the Dolphins in line."

[1:22:15]" Well that's you know that's stats and they're missing the point out that -- actually contribute -- Brady union experience Cassell does. I believe the Patriots have given up what exactly already this year yeah in the regular season they gave up 21 of the regular season black -- you listen okay. And you know that's. Is that offensive line is that an experienced -- probably accommodation opposed I would lean more toward the quarterback great help. It is only natural headed into this seat -- what is an experience. So like I I certainly understand that but. -- go to if you carefully placed passes. Tom Tippett played endure regular even. Although I think there's a certain way you can -- Edberg listen Mike Shanahan -- had Bill Belichick number over the years but that won't want Brady would sit there. You know I felt weird. But what I think what fight -- one the last six times they played yup the Broncos include the play okay but so what yeah."

[1:23:08]" There and they had -- was -- was the -- one. When Ortiz would be able to back a young threw the table potential safety gave up that night but Korea that's you have devers -- libelous -- including the playoff game yeah."

[1:23:21]" Right yeah but. I just ICI watch Denver hand. You go eat he would completely Diego this year and I know that would be you know really what -- it'd -- they game because luckily -- all that stuff. But Denver had a big lead they squandered it. I don't know what you play -- and so we Denver does that erratically. You're really not think about it where you can listen Larry Johnson exploited that. A couple of weeks ago and I know you know same remark about Larry Johnson. But that you know maybe two backs can add up to Larry Johnson -- it there's there's -- way to -- Denver. And that's to be held that could -- just haven't proven they can stop anybody."

[1:23:58]" Time will tell them the pictures nasty for the personnel groupings in order to attempt. That very thing on Monday night if -- would."

[1:24:05]" Half -- game would be very contagious to the New England Patriots."

[1:24:09]" Yeah I think you wouldn't it be advantageous to those view you know covered the game -- of the game that wouldn't exactly how the rest of the idiom to."

[1:24:17]" I think a lot of still tied for Jaworski now -- want to hear talk. All the love your judgment and remind them that you need to make sure on 30 December you know don't -- Beckett Beckett restarted due to travel with via the -- Broussard will not be up there match actually when he said that because. On. Just to see him and a friend of -- of actually -- tour money they gave a couple of weeks. In Washington when Steelers Latin. Which is a rare road trip for me it's not work related. You know out of a lot to get it out once every four years really. It's actually be a collection weekend as a matter while so like figure out just wallop bear on Tuesday mr. I'll just stop by kicking and slipped into therapy daily in the right. It has Fayette -- no idea but I."

[1:25:03]" Yeah exactly -- nice to meet -- senator you know president Obama what are -- had -- right aren't I forgot I figured better. You think that you -- sheep and the automated system. Roger -- get a micro data -- slip it under the door works for me -- grace talk do you think has -- the time is always the -- OK guys enjoyed Monday night Al -- you know would have looks well enjoy it a little more than women one guy would say yeah absolutely crowded AFC -- and Eric yeah absolutely that's what will make an indistinct talking -- Got."

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[1:30:09]" the playbook for Thursday here. I don't know about -- kids -- over seven some problems here so I haven't got any email. Like the last hour and the emails that I have all of them are not readable or credible. Did the did they -- at the that the reboot their girls on the what was who knows so I apologize profusely apologize for not being don't think it's very well -- just that okay that fight anyway I I I apologize for not being able to read -- I can't even open them in fact it is here we're active content cannot be displayed. Open the item and want to turn over of the item. Not responding so at any rate that looks like these are -- needs reboot in and they keep us from Reading emails and he would undoubtedly I thank -- anyway for sending them and that you know that we do read them and they will say here's all read them maybe after the fact. Let's do this then we've got our conference calls that we promised you from all the Denver Broncos -- members of the Patriots media. Up first will be Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan -- Shanahan is certainly as a Russell Baxter alluded to short while ago. As head is is in on your success is with the Patriots end with. Bill Belichick particular fact the Broncos as a team overall nine and two. Against teams coached by Bill Belichick. Did you rest -- right. -- 4 against Belichick when he was they had coached the Browns. Are from 91 to 95 in the Broncos are five and two. Against the Patriot. Under coach Belichick from 2000 until now. 219 and two overall franchise record against bill. Belichick coached team I don't know what that means to you but it means that obviously somehow some way they've got their mark. And we should also tell you that the Broncos right now are the only team in the NFL. With a winning record against New England in regular season and post season play combined. In 2001. When we won when this team when the Patriots won their first Kubel. In 2001 and that time. The Broncos -- the only team in the NFL with a winning record against New England in the regular season and post season combined five and one. Against -- and the architect of it has been Mike Shanahan and he did meet with members of the Patriots media."

[1:32:36]" Here's an idea and writers howry. Thanks for in a few minutes sports no problem yeah just started out that this look and I hate your team. Always really -- about the Broncos with that great rushing attack him in here we the pipeline passing attack. Third period and is that a change here how do you sort of see via. The Athens evolving maybe from what we've seen in the past."

[1:33:02]" I don't know why didn't hear it particularly more balance that you'd probably look at it right now statistical standpoint. Early can take away the run and something to articulate and so I felt -- a little change your philosophy but right now issues you mentioned that we have thrown the ball more difficult do."

[1:33:21]" hope you're done she covers performance at this point."

[1:33:25]" I think he's done an excellent job -- commit to -- here. You know their two losses we've ever had tournament furcal it would football games real don't turn football over shall. We've got to get better in that area but so full bulge in TDs. But I've been I've been pleased it is progress this year and so a lot of adult relatives in the playbook and him quite well."

[1:33:50]" Save. He said that the this sort of three weeks scoring. -- the chief that is the most the biggest problems than turnovers would you agree with that -- itself."

[1:34:01]" Well oiled ball obviously turn over the ball security Kansas City and hit four. I have 450 yards and turn the ball down there. You don't get points. The injury in Jacksonville. The ball flies secured. The other side of the field regardless of which -- football. Not score points so. It's that would put little bit better or able Olympic Games with an internal battle. On low scoring games so that's going to happen sometimes but it got to protect the ball you know no englishman great years some label. -- look at the stats. -- with the turnover ratio they -- if you don't lose it. It's straight ticket policies such especially packaged in -- critique."

[1:34:51]" Much is Jay's arms turns. Allow you to call plays that maybe you couldn't play he couldn't call --"

[1:35:00]" Well I think sometimes your strength is overrated. You know a lot of these -- of you know really get our -- they can make all the throws and sometimes. You know under a lot of quarterbacks -- a great -- can't play the game itself takes a lot more than our strengths to obviously great quarterback initially."

[1:35:21]" Besides the physical. -- is on what what's the key to interject what do you like most about."

[1:35:26]" Boy -- coverages extremely well. You know he's focuses downfield to rush. You -- he's very competitive. Eighties. Played a lot of confidence. That -- he's he's got -- speed he can he can make plays. People are covered legislate them. Kind of what what I look for the quarterback."

[1:35:49]" My opinion do you lights applause probably. The draft. You are you surprised that he hasn't. He put up that you thought you would expect him I have routinely coming too."

[1:36:04]" Yet he can shuttle from the interest in Portugal -- electric guy Cabrera that drafted for what reason or another guy gets -- injured. You know they're not as productive as. First thought they would be in this because victories and I don't know the world situation as well you guys do this little play each other every year. First all of you could -- at all that he I guess he's been here from an --"

[1:36:31]" And there's always that you wouldn't do -- objective pretty well you can shoot right as far as nobody else -- Final one."

[1:36:41]" Yeah Albert very leadership -- for going back critic."

[1:36:44]" huh Daniel Graham in my you know -- guys -- man and he sort of come as advertised down. Where your thoughts on him."

[1:36:52]" Yeah -- aliens but great for a fascinating and actual team leader he's a great worker. He can dominate the point of attack in the running game that pass protection. I just -- precede. Where you know you gotta count for. And they are talking to convey today tight -- Defensive. Now worry about it and discussed that type of a billion pass protection and -- to consult -- college and block -- from the outside linebackers in the league. Decorating and so we were little luckily got deliberately double undeveloped football field force them. Could at Mexico."

[1:37:36]" What did you see in Eddie Royal. -- in in the draft."

[1:37:41]" that we thought you know we couldn't step that to anybody close relative to vote on coverage of coverage. That's the first thing I would look for. -- only -- him get away from ball to separate yourself. But I don't know the other thing -- before -- I don't know how consistent -- catching the ball. That your how long it takes some -- what you're doing. -- to pick four -- take 234 years for them to you know feel comfortable. With the pro game. But even the guys that came right from the first day. You know literature four days cities will be your sort of like receiver this -- itself. His strength his explosion his ability to catch the ball. On the table it to pick. Very very intelligent guy so. I picked up the playbook culprit quickly and -- compete."

[1:38:35]" You know you're probably aware -- into -- He's. It was there. And obviously he's -- deficit to play. Is there a reason why those -- I mean I guess it's you guys were so productive. You know. Rookies. Is there a reason. Why they weren't as good. What."

[1:39:00]" You could say they just have -- both were -- different systems. He'll passing tired. Schools I equipment but a lot different. Context Q which quarterback can do it. I think that's what they did you know airport could certainly when he -- and they can wide receivers look good trip they would actually throwing quarterback to dispatch for a lot different. That toward I think. I think obviously with the -- today edit of the global productive."

[1:39:30]" What do you see from this Patriots. Offense. I was Tom Brady yeah what ways saying. And -- leaving him."

[1:39:40]" Well we were elbow what you're what Tom Brady. What he's done what. You know the Patriots -- in the National Football League general. But you know accomplish. You can never buy direct alter public interest protections -- along -- and he no matter what Belichick said he did -- directing offenses coming for the offensive line to. Right blitzer and Q did that I get a guy afraid. So it worse third fourth wide receivers that -- just takes some time you know reasons why argue please you know the best -- the gate -- just. Alex Clayton on the if you want. And United States or text that doesn't happen overnight so. -- just keep get better and better as the experts is the offense and I just hope that it doesn't do it Monday night."

[1:40:32]" Could you talk about just what the the type of pressure. There is on someone when you have a franchise iconic quarterback like you have with Elway and and you know man isn't really same position is you -- when now retired but. You know -- just taken over everybody always compares you to Alaska."

[1:40:50]" Yeah I and it's it's impossible to do you know especially. The Super Bowl you know -- Super Bowls oddly he's played. How many games that definitely important role. I just you know it's. They try to play by the legend it's it's the -- as possible but. At least what I've done it -- that I took advantage Kentucky handled it real well. Can't help someone understand. You've got to forget about the critics should just concentrate on the job at hand and that's what he's still."

[1:41:22]" Get two offensive tackles and earned his first year started as it does it or I guess pleasant surprise that you've only led -- sacks we."

[1:41:31]" Yeah -- Italy get two young guys have really stepped up and play well right Clady. Option of working at Rutgers and Notre Dame returned -- interest you before. Who had step back surgery shortly after he came. -- both guys that played well. Young guys -- bright futures and hopefully they can. Played like settled here."

[1:41:53]" Did you like it went -- sort of called out Brandon Marshall and how do you think Brandon has responded. Today."

[1:42:01]" But I -- pretty honest and you know chased blood I would. -- Atlanta days and around together so. Anytime you're really good French sometimes you can call a guy out that probably covered well still can't do this is a quarterback. You know the Carolina about each other is that a lot of time. I just genocide took pride in -- mistaken it was silly mistakes. So it is kind of expression initiatives toward it and you know president has done a great job. Since then got a little to right weight and leader off the field of course they'll just deal with kids and try to. Really represent our organization won't do things that can help kids and underprivileged kids and but also -- could kill you."

[1:42:49]" Like yeah -- like one guy Brandon was ridiculous 540 passes -- good -- and shake your head yeah."

[1:42:58]" What I think what happens as the jackets more maturity he understands today you know the most important thing. It is what football okay. An excellent football games. Could accept everybody. You know I think that's substances. He's a guy that handled some individual goals that. Do you want me not afraid to share those goals and sometimes people look at in the very selfish but -- selfish guy is. He'll watch the block in guilt what you can -- A lot of receivers or do."

[1:43:33]" sort of lead things I just want to run by an equity thinking he had the defensive -- how's that work in South Korea and what's your approach on deferring and according to us."

[1:43:44]" I was caught the ball. You know committed just you know I've just been always dealt away from ultra smiling that if you want the ball. We'll have a lot of confidence often. So that's you know that's that's way I operate now -- they changed the what are they went. I taught through the strategic advantage because it was too windy here -- I defer to the second hand over. Subtitle. Actually your question."

[1:44:12]" The defensive heads at how is that working out for --"

[1:44:15]" I think it's worked out pretty good -- I don't think it's full proof yet but sometimes they go out. I think it helps you are just as much time he'll certainly it and if so got to get ready for but -- it will -- more than."

[1:44:28]" Is almost over hills. Injury hampering him do you think -- in the past her."

[1:44:34]" It has it has I think last week. He was pretty close back to normal and this week -- little bit better so. And I think it did -- the first four games. Pivotal -- stick together not being able to use that. He's -- Italy order particularly wanted but it took. He's poster have a full years now so hopefully. Woolsey the second -- of the season and play in the politically player last year."

[1:45:00]" Does he have I'm -- is -- it would just take up."

[1:45:03]" This kind of -- substitute thing I think is just -- like a soft cast. But it does not seem like it was earlier in the first --"

[1:45:11]" Mike is kind of obvious we should do it but that is another team. -- it would have been sitting on notice that big difference built or is this your -- it. I guess one thing that. It was the balls."

[1:45:27]" Yeah they reach the -- extremely well. He's. You know. You know what you look for the quarterback you don't throw to the right guy makes very -- mistakes and you could see is drove it just you know. As a quarterback over the last two years you know he was a very fortunate early as -- that it just sit on the bench -- Behind -- A lot of mental reps but. Yeah he's certainly going to be one -- the what the best in the NFL."

[1:46:01]" It's the AFC is wide open as it's been. And oil."

[1:46:05]" I think so I think -- a lot of teams are close. A lot -- still an entry Stinchcomb they'll stay healthy down the stretch but. I don't think there's any one team like you know -- it was all last year. That I see any old Regis and -- you know they've you know lose -- I think it's -- Tennessee get a excellent teacher tried -- played well but it. I don't -- anybody -- new England's. Territory over a year ago."

[1:46:33]" Let's think for me. Completion percentage against you. Is pretty high. What's what's been going wrong there and have you seen any positive steps."

[1:46:46]" Page Samsung cup an overstatement to say other tests they're trying to -- that'll additional defense out or so hopefully we get a little bit Becker. That you thought that's that's so we're working on obviously they'll work hard. Hopefully a look at third the second half of the season. We're definitely working so. That you think that the legal -- run because it to ensure that its less than okay I'm sure -- sure that let me."

[1:47:13]" And Mike it's our last question thanks for the time hero obviously local interest in in Tom Nalen and he's out for the year and we know it's contracts up at the end of the year and we're we're do you see that that heading and he -- the doors open that he might be able to come back. One more time now for another year maybe."

[1:47:29]" He had a door still open. You know I I told somebody today just take your time and decide what you want to do you know -- don't have to tell the guys that. You know he got to play hurt he'll play it would a lot of pain for him not to. Cannot deal will play with and they'd like it is is not a good time. Because it's hard to keep a guy like that now. And just take -- look at TX rays it does not look good at this time. But you never know what happens if you decide to get a micro fracture maybe it just gets better he can truly don't know -- what kind of out of but took place an order for us and talk about a guy that does help this organization with a lot of games."

[1:48:12]" one last point what how do you. -- you've had great success against the Patriots distance bill's been here I mean is there any common thread there."

[1:48:23]" Now that we've had some great games of the -- you know it's. I just no role whatsoever coaches' subcommittee is and so. He had already got a -- can't give a giveaway. You know if you do as a -- battle you make mistakes here there advocate speech so. A football team goes you know a lot of respect for the organization yeah. What they've accomplished. All we know we gotta give the bishops have changed."

[1:48:49]" Appreciate it. Mike Shanahan head coach of the Denver Broncos have members of the Patriots medium before we yeah. Handed off to Jay Cutler in his conference call of course on the other side of that will be a fantasy slow down -- Brian -- caught up but. 4 PM eastern time a couple of quick notes from practice today Matt Light. Was. At least in the media portion of practice today so apparently even with his. Strained knee -- whatever may have been he was practicing today that positive news for the Patriots in the offensive line. Of those that were not spotted at the of media portion of practice today were -- Jarvis Green and nick catcher Eric Alexander. LaMont Jordan Jonathan Wilhite Laurence Maroney and Kelley Washington just bring you today from practice day. Now Jay Cutler quarterback for the yet Denver Broncos leads the AFC he ranks third in the NFL. But almost 1700. Passing yards. Through six weeks he was already named AFC offensive player of the month for September. On he had it'd 300 passing yards in three of his first four games. He is on pace. To surpass the Broncos single season record which was -- budget Plummer in 2004 if he continues the way. That he is going. -- the -- third in the NFL with completion. In his twelve touchdown passes second in the AFC. Fourth overall in the NFL has been a good Altman to start. At the very least for Jay Cutler and he's won that certain of the papers about what penny -- pay plenty trade day of attention to. On Monday night so we'll wrap out of here by letting you listen -- to Jake Cutler would members of the Patriots meet."

[1:50:36]" Yeah. Well that's reporters here from them and we appreciate you taking a few minutes for a I'm just wanted to start you off you know we have done a guy -- obviously familiar with Tedy Bruschi who -- Obviously underwent the stroke and he sort of become an advocate for stroke awareness and I wanted to ask you with with your situation and the diabetes is that something you've. You sort of felt comfortable golden you know become sort of a spokesmen -- an advocate for."

[1:51:04]" Could have -- and so. A situation that -- out into the public science. Receive a lot of called -- they'll -- requests and you know I think -- I enjoyed it you know a cup he's. That's in it off easily get more involved in power -- what kind of evolved just hard to do a lot of appearances and stuff to talk to people that. It does double definite compliment I was fortunate future."

[1:51:29]" you know given all the stresses that that it you don't. A player has on -- body how difficult is it to be a professional athlete with diabetes."

[1:51:38]" It's tough alms and you'd hit a good arms would fit in now it's -- fortunes of his in April at some time to adjust to it -- they get comfortable with before this season started but you know it's done. Bartlett there might not you know get up with ridiculously good and so -- Adjusted opinionated support at times but which is sort of you know."

[1:51:59]" How much better do you feel now than he did last year when you know the condition caused -- to lose much weight."

[1:52:06]" Different -- congressmen -- are from flashes were in the season you know that it could not -- this is about social. If they really -- Tony's part explained people. They'll have a record and that we would like to it's."

[1:52:21]" Do you that under and the condition before being diagnosed. And and I was sort of change human and do you think it's -- that will affect you for the duration of your career."

[1:52:33]" Home. You know it is something I'll do it -- it to fit for the rest my -- so. It's not going to have inevitable."

[1:52:44]" home. Well. Here. Not only."

[1:53:00]" What's. It'll -- two sacks this year how much to that is you much of it is the offensive line and yeah."

[1:53:06]" Television. You know on the early early interest it's against a lot of blitzes and logic it's did you. Terrible time and you know fortunate last. Two to three games you know that people are put in -- much definitely felt obliged and you know --"

[1:53:26]" I don't know how. How important is it for quarterbacks is to be able to sends. What's going on around in the pocket and still keep his eyes downfield and in his head the couple learned he'll definitely do that."

[1:53:37]" Not crazy. Artists are something to -- too --"

[1:53:41]" Let let me see them film from Payton and."

[1:53:45]" You know it it is some. At least smart. -- able -- some players. The good players some some things offensively. Six. You know -- do our defense stopped -- days before the fourth -- You know they just keep it says. And so."

[1:54:04]" Yeah obviously. A little bit upset with friends you boys that publicly do you feel like he's brought a --"

[1:54:12]" Absolutely certain line. SS so all -- and part of his attention and did you devote so we talked about it and an innocent cities. -- came --"

[1:54:28]" This three weeks you know -- in the in the season point poise what what haven't you been doing the last three games that you were doing in the first period."

[1:54:36]" You know -- turnovers obviously. Church's first score. And so and so they turnovers are our two losses so. We'll get -- all that are."

[1:54:46]" J get a chance to look at that film from when the Patriots played that San Diego last Sunday. -- is to strike you that they've played maybe more man defense than what they've played the rest of the year."

[1:54:57]" You know they they've been all over the -- probably not sure it was ridiculous. And you know I think I thought it played man and control of his receivers and -- ability. They it was a big plays so. There's just it is just."