Patriots Playbook - 10/28/2008

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[0:41]" The playbook -- Tuesday Patriots dot com radio I'm John -- He's going to join us today. It is you can John has always yes I don't don't panic now adults or what might not supposed to be within two -- don't and it's okay. You explain to them what you explain to me about why are available on Tuesdays are very quietly -- W crew because all we do -- our ask PFW segment. We don't have any player -- right. We have coach spell check on a conference call. And we did not work Monday because of a Sunday game we have had a player acts that work any of our stories of the week. So it's Natalie we really doing you know I don't know that there's an -- and every Tuesday right now is not only wants what's Tuesday Wednesday. I would gladly do that by the way that that is actually easier for me to do Tuesday Tuesday and Wednesday so we can work that out with Gary that -- in predicting. If you want to do that I'm I'm okay within the diversity when one of the your alone on one that. I'm by myself lonely day you beat by someone -- January. But normally we normally have on -- we have below comes in in the second right okay we'll than decades. In Wednesday's you do scheduling."

[1:54]" we have Mike I don't era below the schedule signing autographs that. Opener in carrying around them bags and then yeah. Are cool book yeah exactly -- a -- by all this is nice okay I knew that is going to happen one stripper and an email. Tech over tech goin' down Johnny. And it -- talent not. You know the way. That's really you know. Probably the last -- more -- that you know -- or last week Clippers win you know. Maybe you know Oklahoma State was going to be -- next week went his it was going to be with the Texas pennant then everything you're all fired up well you know -- wanted to -- where things where well right number two got a big deal ultimately even though it's probably going to be -- in India. Through corporate thing you know something you've been a great PFW in progress. My father -- once. All that's known for its own entity and the show now -- challenged to apply. My -- one of our oil and that organ that an -- on. Take me on an AUSG I'll play man's I don't like it's Marshall are fighting it hadn't -- any -- box. -- I agree we want -- good natured exhibition where only he didn't. He can't strike me he can grapple. And I could actually hit him. That this is all. You know what they they didn't Iraqi boy that this Apollo creed even struggle it was as an exhibition to happen Apollo creed. He died treated like it -- too. They're mentally 600 pound element -- and I want to feeling that on -- right I don't blame in my game but they get a box in training in between. I'll give shot the other like mixed martial arts and are extremely public fifteen years. Whether closed down operations lead he went out of business -- when I agree man that lead is like the minor league it's like the ex FL. Of US. Ranked as a joke -- him both laid out there -- knocked out by. Where -- and where we're vital that is like yet at bat with the bat -- he played the beacon is well on paper view. Where guys -- of the cage and three rounds and and his opponent lost and you blew the -- They pretty much. Not that it over the edge on the ball and then that you're I would little -- and these are good technical fighters that I was in my opinion I -- golden glove. You durable fighter I did not do I did not participate okay."

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[5:29]" In the rivalries like the team always -- and while we're here -- click here at least there'd be an all out yet is dominated Texas Tech. They've dominated Oklahoma they've got their twenties and I'm on Wednesday. They old series by the way -- I'm sure you know this they hold the series a dominating fashion over ole U is well. I'll still you know. Everybody's bubble and -- I get that you take everybody's best shot years you have a team that can take those shots all the years you don't this year surprise. I'm pleasantly surprised they have a team they can Shia militia of gauntlet that they're running here four straight games. Or as -- against four teams ranked in the top eleven in the nation. Has never been done."

[6:14]" longhorns have basically a witness what my -- which started on Sunday in Steelers out of the Cowboys get the gains that get the Eagles all division game. A tough tough grind Patriots have a schedule like that little bit later on DL with the Jets bills Dolphins right row all coming up and at that -- that the NFL is scheduled it that way for both sides. Really not spreading out the -- that they had that that you think that plan and under or I don't know just kind of working out there I think with the Patriots colleges it out because of the to a trip. Damaging those -- back to back then having you know that one of the majority went on. Earlier this month that we have -- were in Seattle or Oakland for a week. Before -- so perhaps he really couldn't batted out because of all you want to lump those 1 game together and that's when he piper -- category there. Could probably be hard for me travel -- point which is likely to do that. Giants -- really have any other long -- on no surprise there all but hopefully that it aware of those scheduling. Phil -- like no light hearted know about the."

[7:24]" Did you see I believe it was late last week I'm not mistaken around Roger Goodell say that up. The scheduling is going to come up for a discussion. Not any sooner than 2000 fans of the old ninety's to that the way that we're used to a -- in 2000 and there's a very real possibility we'll talk about it ending the regular season. Not a big fan of Eckstein is fine. What yeah. What if they're able to do away. With the three season by adding to the regular season and that additional game is an international game."

[8:00]" But -- I have my mile that if you technically one pre season game because we sure as hell don't need for. It right now that we we had a long mentioned about the one -- away and I was in the big chair and Bill Belichick -- during -- his press conference that he was asked about. Specific topic about. -- opportunities that the when you develop young players. And that is what you get mine to take these rookies the first year players even second year players a lot of experience. Would you develop those who I don't have teams do it. And -- dude on the practice field. As as meaningless as those trees are boring as the art. They do mean something for those young players. So it's hard to get -- the time to develop and learn the -- if you -- I think a lot of coaches me. B yeah maybe 88 or -- a pretty good number. Three maybe you can probably doing very part of it delays the fact that -- they actually. Reduced the number although pre season games they would talk about doing bring. Or. The early spring training spring scrimmage or maybe another row scrimmage against. Another team in advance of training camp. Basically gain that opportunity back for the younger players yet again for -- talk -- them a little bit more on board with -- ago right now because I think. Like I always say it was likely that order of the day but they could work that out. Scheduling could have -- time they can squeeze in there. It'll probably be a benefit the players that it serves no purpose for the team in terms of building chemistry in teaching guys roles that your Caledonia. What it serves a purpose that mile means that technically one of those pre season games and are great."

[9:50]" Well I'm. It will kind of -- look back on the St. Louis went on Sunday as we always do here on particularly on -- and -- For those that are familiar with the program at all normally we call Tuesday nitpick Tuesday will -- of the problems of the things that -- about -- bottom line -- it was 23 -- over St. -- that. Is not one that esteem Li B at best they might be middle of the pack. But the same time they will realize what the Patriots are this year -- team that has to continue to develop a new hope. That they can beaten at least close to the same type caliber. By the end of the year when they need to beat 1 in that regard. You have a team now -- five into it the year they're they're 527 games for the third straight year and no other team in the NFL can say yeah. All that in and of itself is it."

[10:44]" No -- John. I was thinking about this morning being fired it through at this point and it back to the beginning of the season. With Tom Brady in the lineup and you look at the first seven games to probably you know five and it might be okay. Because we all thought that checking it was going to be tough in week two of Brett Favre and how's that New York debut. And you really you know it took -- the -- yet. And we always thought the Indy it would be -- now it turns out they lost -- game you flip flop the Jets in the Miami game obviously -- blown -- by Dolphins here. Five it is not -- you probably -- bat rake in more even with Tom Brady threw those for a seven game I think guerrilla. I'd agree so five and -- is about right. I thought they would -- out there a difference the difference of course -- the problems that have popped up along the way and you're doing it you doing it with a quarterback that -- outlined here but from an -- game. One of the things that I take away it was probably the best performance -- I know I -- yeah he had the higher rating and you want the player of the week Award by the he was better. He was smarter with the ball in order like and play with more confidence and eight in St. Louis plot it was his first career fourth quarter comeback. Which he had not had a chance do yet. In it is per attempt to do -- He actually got that."

[11:59]" Absolutely I would agree that was his best all around performance. Even in the pocket look like -- and there. He -- got rid of the football a couple of occasions. I was concerned one bad pass on the day it was very pass -- a -- out route to what will when he -- right. Everything else was pretty much -- on yet -- except for west water all around I think Washington at the for. -- should have gone out and had a one of the end zone and he -- even -- there -- that there were at least one who -- or drop before it drops I think yeah I think that's -- Eric came up -- the post game -- right -- that Barbara had wanted to open field -- and -- down on the -- pick. And then Moss had to go out there or drop right there that easily and then now at 11 team in the up adds yet I think he was greed of the umpire."

[12:50]" Now all you mentioned his poise and his presence in the pocket which I think was the big thing that we take from this because. It every time this year he either hold moderate to long. Or decide screw up -- a little bit too early. And I can't say he's got to find that middle ground. He'll find a happy medium hair where you don't get rid of you they don't pocket too soon and you don't want to too long I think he finally found that. On Monday. Or a lot times yet -- seven times not a lot of yards but he Russian all the right time. -- hey look this is that nothing go ahead and yards of open field here on -- I take off right. I thought he was much wiser in those decisions and I just think -- with comfort. I think what you play more and a lot of quarterbacks talk about the game goes down the -- now it's our way down. I got that feeling."

[13:38]" To be honest with just like he was. Much -- on yeah on a check off it looked like he knew where he was going or wanted to go this certainly wasn't happy his running it looked like he was signed running even when he was rolling out of the pocket on occasion and I will think what the experience -- proper etiquette and -- along the way sure okay that's not it's not that it is going to be perfect parent now. And I don't know how much more he can grow because we don't know. Bottom line how good is he really well what made it even more impressive like those of -- that it was. You know with all due respect Kevin -- he did -- without much running game on the bench Jarvis Green Ellis -- is running back -- a great Dallas -- pretty good up a lot of government in -- Indians on between the tackles. And between twenty yard line but not very effective on Sunday. And you're right dating get a lot Kevin Faulk more on the past in game which really has been special. Yeah exactly I mean I don't think that the autos are his -- right absolutely. And you know the Patriots I think -- we were to find out that they were going to be without not only -- but -- without LaMont Jordan -- more present they have to go after back -- Yet I mean I think for now that the -- belongs the bench are -- you'll get that chance. I think we talked about other previous show the rim -- Rusch may defenders that in the not for a lot of pressure on him I think that may have been part of the reason why he had looked poised in the pocket to do. But I give the kid credit for going out there it looked more comfortable -- he has all -- girls what the numbers tell you. What they told you from last week Denver game he was a far better player. This past Sunday that he wasn't -- to be no question about it while it's certainly encouraging them from a Patriots in standpoint. On the net -- wrote. As the quarterback of this team. Of fact remains that even though it's not perfect calm we can vary from week to week improvement in him in different facets of the game. I suggested Mike Coker could -- Bernard Mcguirk depending on the opponent maybe that -- next week with the Indianapolis because we know the Colts. Law now living at LA -- really -- I was kind of have a rooting for the Colts last night because you know with Ted coming back to win that game over Indianapolis Colts are three and four. Or they are about the -- dead and buried in the division."

[15:55]" They are. -- are out already ago yeah they're done they're no -- in the south and they can look at the wild -- because. Apparently how much more can't afford to -- I mean probably more two more top 11511. To 510 and it might be tough to get -- going to -- a logjam -- I think -- lose -- they -- tiebreak -- somebody. That it could not be at war now and they're going to be screwed now. With the Colts are right if it while last night maybe this. Game on Sunday it would have been like down in order where I -- think that that hang over from being in the undefeated team that's exactly how they'll had to behave but it can work get to John and talk with the Patriots because just like the San Diego game when they needed that game typical need to went to. So it'll be better to see how they come out what their approach is mentally and if their wind the ball early and that crowd gets it away. Which we haven't really -- project him play that stadium. But that could be a long day if the Colts got two articles quick starts with the charges that item on the and I you know. It's funny I change my pick. Before the charger game I saw the charges against Miami -- like -- these -- No way I took doing and they got beat by one. Now I'm like oh my guns -- will take in New England because I don't believe in Indianapolis I think this -- he's having horn goes off years. -- come back the play began and I would not be shocked. Is my point I would be surprised. By what they do it it was this game I think right now other better football you know that you could argue that -- to."

[17:26]" I think that maybe a little bit there global team but I am just wondering you know again when it was still have to -- on the road against quality opponent. And this would be I mean -- it's -- miracle that the quality opponent. -- they have quality players. But in -- like the quality team we've -- and put a happy ending auto you know the Patriots do as good a job as anybody is and it's been well documented -- focused week to week but. You know frankly two weeks what you got awful for the first time in oh. You know you can hope at least Drew in a position. To be able to play Buffalo for the outright lead in the division may be that kind of a journalistic thing this week I don't know but I -- think the cold probably have with a back to the wall have the hair on the back -- the -- at -- at this weekend. And they will be pumped and jacked to borrow a favorite Pete Carroll -- and be ready to play him. I think you'll be difficult for the Patriots this week designated -- right because I think that they did learn something that you hope that they learn on the in the San Diego debacle that you'd better you know come ready to play and they've developed a little bit further they get one or two with -- of the running back back this week. Hum I think it bodes well for new -- there are still some problems and I still expect Peyton Manning to -- You know the Patriots secondary and go deep and and frankly do we even know the we have enough bodies yet played in the second."

[18:43]" Who's going to be back there now because we don't know the that is is that Lewis Sanders indeed he used to -- OK we assume we don't know. And so there aren't a lot of healthy bodies back there and I think the other thing that you mention about the running backs. You gotta get or those guys back and maybe LaMont Jordan comes back this week we thought he was making progress. Now not so sure he is. Because I would be shocked. If Tony Dungy doesn't blitz a whole lot more sure that Jim -- that and I've I've yeah I they'll try to and the dog and you need to give the run the football -- that I agree and they can't do that it's going to be hard. And going to be hard to do that without Mora and Jordan in time. I totally agree that you and the dogs and I think that those in the Patriots prepare for you know that kind of a that kind of an attack in terms of maybe getting it up quickly. Trying to run up against it going up the middle whatever they take that they're going to and it that we don't we don't know from the -- point. Other players Ewing because they they hope pot and it. This could very well last week one to put that that happened -- now this week I think part of target. I think there's been no option -- hope. -- play. And Joseph Addai. Who they clearly dominant. If he cannot run the football it. Having a hard time in Peyton Manning is in on time back there. But it wasn't that last night. But -- number over the -- that is not move there is not a magic that you've seen as Manning because. Of the the knee problems like he's had to battle through the cost him time it cost -- timing. As well because he's just off. Is actually comes Marvin Harris. And -- the guy who he -- that he retired at. Me he. Elves as -- as a lot going on in his head that not making him down now on the did you watch. Yeah most about half minutes to fourth down plays. Could not convert which really could change a game and you look at it as he did after coming back at a football game. The for those who return of run down the -- interception. I mean that that that championship Albert keep him stepping up. In the fourth quarter game you need. We don't like they -- point but he kept coming back and he ran the ball so well yeah I was on Indianapolis -- why you really want to get a guy anymore -- the game if you look at that the that the thinking we can do that could be that the blockers. And we got back into the ability to bounce things off. Look how good -- Oakland but he has some semblance of -- wasn't. 200 plus yards that we've even Tennessee but it is enough is enough to keep on comfortable keeping clean and how important. Play good football William Graham on the Kerry Collins ankle back that ninth 2002 of the -- Kerry Collins I think of his own liquor problem well known that they're acting -- his time in Oakland you know when he couldn't even handle global dad has that well a lot of guys. And a -- Hard it's hard to hold that against. And LaMont Jordan have a fun and -- Though he did -- however he wasn't trying -- got injured. But the point being open as they literally black Cole. Has been it's because the older that is the black hole I don't know."

[22:10]" Exactly right -- are going to back a little bit more at the Patriots and Rams. Obviously we -- kind of turn the page a little bit it's Sunday night game or at the the new we'll call them the oil Lucas Oil field right. It looked Littlefield ultimately they get the national TV cameras on them again. The NBC of course took the week off because I guess history. -- and make an inning -- two NBC will come back with the Patriot in the cold. For the next week he'll have all on the don't watch football and then you have the Patriots -- and an adult themselves. Archer that's a good thing bad thing my guess would be a little better the -- and the Colts the Colts are the ones that are coming home the come home short work."

[22:55]" Week you know money go back to last year in the two teams played in the marquee matchup who were all talking about two undefeated -- late season total of an -- that tag of five intuit is okay right but three and four on the other end and a brand new stadium on his change in a year. And he's making fun. I always say to and I kind of joke with the guys like they came -- as the -- that are out there. Well we all know that very important to all the portal to me is eating food you know not like Paul Perillo leading the -- adequate treatment a couple of boxes don't yeah -- William via another thing about the get W progress and I feel so bad guy and has been our UK fan -- sort of today. -- cup from Wales who is the creator of PFW in progress dot com. -- look -- his friends along they came here they were about fifteen to forty strong on Sunday well. Delegating the whole nine yards and they brought to go to today they head into the show. -- picture isn't the guys went underneath him at halftime actually before the game on Sunday though. That was another part no we know we had to -- answer. You can clean up yeah that's -- fact is what I -- it daily ED -- to I had won a couple of those on the over in the bottom box and the is it going to take it now if you hit -- out they didn't Eagles don't like the five noted that he thought any -- zone. But it it. But here comes it comes to reject their we don't really hilly the element of what -- gross figure. Girls part."

[24:26]" Hard the other Patriot and a winning tournaments sixteen and if you have your nit pick for Tuesday. Based on Sundays play then now is that time Biron off web radio. At Patriots dot com Bible 85437482. Is that telephone number. You -- what -- I got into -- I I definitely -- but I was -- just at least -- a -- yet. Well I think it we we'd go when I'm sure you guys talk about his bit but I would be remiss if we did not mention the first penalty -- game in franchise history which is significant means you always strive for no penalties to limit the number of penalties and mistakes. I'm not -- that I've ever seen a penalty free game by one team to be honest with the much has been a part of one records on."

[25:14]" Well declared out there were knowing that the penalties that late didn't get called for holding -- declined because there's act and play any -- greater and they did not take that penalty -- I think the big thing is not -- think any game there aren't many plays you're going to commit penalties somewhere at the question is are getting caught committed only one. And number two you committing the obvious that the Patriots credit. They'll walk side to -- of infractions or Paul talked with those the obvious that the judges always either rise on -- line of scrimmage so. It's that he goes -- and if you have like a scramble on special teams guy gets block in the back you know always that call sometimes you can miss that because that happens I don't play. But -- before the -- a lot of those penalties those I think are the silly penalties quote unquote that bill bill that was talking about yesterday. Not make in the stupid obvious ones and that addicting from Sunday did not commit any of those obvious penalties -- called every time. Holding that we would be one of the all day in the first time around -- to their credit that's a great thing you're way to win win. The opposing team commit nine a lot on special teams as well as they get that battle for field position that was a huge run on Sunday John. Donnie Jones takes a punt and it goes the 48 yard line the field position battle along greatly in the fourth quarter and a lot of it was. Special team play penalties included with the Patriots are committing any they never put those on us on a long field where you know we have a kick off fraternities at. Call back for holding our our -- And they happen to the rim once on a big drive and those are the small things add up in the big a big difference in the game."

[26:49]" We all mentioned earlier that of course Matt Cassel had his first career fourth quarter comeback. Randy Moss. His 800 career reception. Being in -- fast to get to 800 grew up in NFL history book that was. Fairly significant he did have a hundred yard game although probably could have been 200 yard game in the count the ones that you drop yeah. Wes Welker six or more passes but he's caught for a seventh straight game. He just the fourth player in NFL history to do what I've went we remarkable that we that result of your stat like -- seven games like who who come and is well they're a more passes over a seven game streak I mean that's. Obviously you're talking about a possession receiver and then on but no only four players that are."

[27:32]" And that's the thing is this year is you know every try to take months out of the game Welker is open underneath all day -- and he's not -- yards on those plays he's not breaking three. But he's he's got the ball that he can't he can't take that away from him but yeah a lot of big plays while this year. -- the big touchdown that we saw last year they just haven't opened that part of the team up yet completely yet they're starting to I think but again. It's not quite there yet Welker like -- that has become a possession receiver but -- dire -- Catch the ball ball go down for -- have a -- And I think those add up I do when you run the ball well enough and and you had gay guys back out there healthy and maybe they'll you know it's a little more relevant."

[28:12]" Like that and a lot of -- often especially in the group. You know most of you know like run a 67 yard pass very acceptable and it's usually a -- receiver or tight end. Went on to pull another crossing over the middle and four by yards and it just has good run how many times we need -- three players rarity these jobs back. Bone quick quick screen out there he were on the side many tries cars -- That's been a big part of the office this year yeah it funny that I thought I was going to be a big party -- it was Brady. In my my projection this year was taken. You know ever going to try to equated the they may or go back to dink and -- the degree a lot of greens like check off but we're -- now because that record. It -- different but we are getting -- like -- on the other slip screens I think what are really becoming popular on the idea here's to make sure that you can. Create personal mismatch on those where you have the better blocking down field and allow the receiver to do his job and you know make that all act yeah. Yards and yards after the catch it's exactly know why you work here because you have."

[29:19]" The offensive line given athletic line not a big over -- on teams that the -- have athletic guys worked good run blockers. Pretty good in pass protection but the biggest thing is on the screen they can get down the field throw a couple blocks. And you need yet to bring guys who was behind the -- you the best blocking or -- that I seen in quite time. If you have a guy like that are -- David Givens when he was here. Oh you have a I have an active duty -- the field quickly that's why those greens -- and they had a rough on the on the kind of -- kind of called -- reds on to. We -- with loss in Denver they get -- guy -- any kind -- took the that no we don't want to run now Arnold and you know. The right down the field deepened in in it looked pretty you know -- I. But you know that they -- to perfection and it it's kind of a gutsy call but apparently now -- because -- times in the red zone. He is runner on -- Runner on base at work this is where. And accurately and things up now -- that green becomes a part of their game of the red zone that when he whenever whatever work at last to leave the reds on offense. Marginally better as -- once you get out here."

[30:29]" You can see that there are indeed get a clue at least it would the notion seems a little bit better and a lot that has poise and maturity in a lot of that played -- I mean I don't as far as I'm concerned basically on the quarterback because if the linemen know what's -- The deacons has shorter field which worked so they can all we take more gambles and realize that the -- you know. They've got more opportunity to be success because the field a shorter it all on the quarterback in his decision making process. In the red knowing where to go and who you can check off -- your primary and your secondary and even your tertiary receivers are not open and available you have to have money they can make that decision I think that that's what we're seeing improvement with that he's learning it. And arguments here but -- play three years. I have a son -- doctor and having that big a deal and I think. One of the big things like you that in the -- you don't have risen to be covered where because he's -- What you were all out here rightly -- it is -- two guys in the flat. Guy Indians -- and covered. You gotta be able look behind Internet the -- in the back. And come yeah that a lot but he he -- he's starting at it now incumbent upon him to talk to his virtually Yakima. Like you'll put that right. You know because that you filed away for later in the game -- and call comes. You know or you -- to the running -- we -- out -- outlook -- the -- communication has got to -- and continue. And -- and I know -- Randy -- probably come -- you -- yeah exactly -- take -- to -- On of the communication going the only way you realize that you know what. That might be a next time -- after the my initial check -- that direction. You were two of the things that I was going to point out. The Rams the first -- stadium. And I obviously the Patriots won the games than 24 and four. First time visitors stadium. There are only Arizona Atlanta and Carolina who have never physically played in this building -- Arizona will come. Right in the last two were coming next year yes it's finally back in with the AF NFL. The division across does that mean -- the world. Oh yeah. Atlanta and Terrell now will be a year in the you go to New Orleans addendum. It. Rate they. Yeah right. Allen have a couple more. Tore. Imaging that. College right. Out -- them right back. It. In doubt that either her regular game. Now and in the Baltimore doubt. And so -- here because well I can ever take it any better hurry now. You know what I thought I had it happen now you'll -- and under the new one. They gonna mystic. The other thing pages that went thirteen rating in the and -- alone -- include mobile and not including but you know thirteen regular season games in a row. And include. Yeah like. Web radio at Patriots dot com that email address. I come forward -- pick Mike got his I've got mine I want you to assure your wherever you've seen this team needs to work. Wherever you see this team needs to improve something -- don't like about the papers that you wondered how come they can't get this out calmly they can't take that we're going to nitpick what we'd do. We'll make a big habit of Tuesday's hard to nitpick with a win overall -- improved five into and of course. You moved to the top of the division Sherrill now the division lead in the AFC east with a -- bills but. We do it we're here to kind of you know dissect and analyze all get to the Olympics coming up we'll take a break -- and -- though that your emails phone call at 585 with three of 42 welcome as well in the play."

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[37:51]" Well let -- here again we're Sunday means you're doing of the football. Whether it's tailgating in the parking lot throwing the pigs get around to just hang in in and watch the game of the two it's all about football. When you're not watching football or playing football well I think we both know you're thinking football and all that can make you a little Hungary. That's why there's a tasty snack -- from McDonald's. Neck -- now come in your choice of three Lakers used to -- to barbecue honey mustard and ranch and they're available with grilled her crispy chicken. Delicious and easy to eat it perfect game time neck grab one today. And when you do if you're looking at that you can elect and it kinda remind you of a quarterback in the middle of the pocket he and now he's surrounded by energy actually ran a read a poem BP you're thinking a little too much about football. McDonald's I'm -- it."

[38:54]" Inside Patriots playbook -- Michael -- They're responsible. As a witness here on Tuesday because frankly you needed some that it pretty. Sorry if I don't hear -- Gary's little. Quit the dynamic headphones on -- because on these. Huge. Lately Bill O'Reilly and the right."

[39:21]" Because. My voice. On the puck in the water. I threw more clear and coherent. July we'll -- right. Com. Web radio Patriots dot com -- from matrix today. Formerly Patriots video news I think -- he's supposed to be here in the ala -- normally does on -- the all of and you won't be with -- tomorrow. It probably. I would they're -- obviously you're scare you don't want to be great hired a full time. Pitcher that would. There right or apartment right exactly. Here. Job at notre -- gravity doing radio -- Get a read. It pretty yours is the -- know this government although -- into the picture will will open at the derby will pick from. -- Think Vermont. -- start with a Amy's been brought up is they don't just pick from my county that navy knows that's right here it is. -- the and you shall be right one yet its presence around there it is. The quality picks. The good like my epic on the -- bow -- they hang around our area on my eighth inning and am kind of wondering yeah. Not to the good picture but it would say you know whoever took the picture was. Happily lost because down you know here it is like all right Amy is -- and a lover. A very tight tank top on the wind right and it looks like he's got very tightening but jeans. Because maybe. Oh. It is -- Moderate drinking on an outdated and I hear -- from Josh. Josh McDougal -- in the paper Eric. Amend any hard here we are not yet. I carry into the crystal -- to I don't know exactly right Josh was says to make -- My name is Joshua. I don't -- yeah I'm 26 years all of growing up in Fresno California much alike. Are -- It is literally might like. Sports radio -- every day FYI I'm a huge injuries I've missed one Patriots game the past eleven years. Do you my dream job is to be -- Sports Radio. I've talked to a few DJ and how they started in the business as -- it is just find ways to get on the air. Asking to be put on -- want to work are you doing something on the radio station. What started very bottom. In worker at the latter will work my butt off for -- station. Whatever is that -- and say you can't return earlier -- antigen. I had I just want to chance to get my foot in the door completely willing to move to Massachusetts for in my dream. You'd be a great opportunity and the chance of a lifetime I would be remembered promise -- I would not regret. Well that you wouldn't tree I'm very very -- taller and -- people that about this would be a dream job for me. I do however completely understand Europe -- give me a position no hard feelings just one thing has it already higher. By."

[43:04]" John because the print guys like myself going to have seen entry into the business where we do a lot of grunt work at the beginning. A lot of friends in my current radio -- always start out producing. And to relate he overnight shows like right putting IB ESPN radio needed an innate and it's evident corporations are you know all about your. And for us you know it covering high schools and it take your phone calls or in the death our business are -- the bottom it's not easy. Generally great you can pull the crack into that -- movies did you."

[43:33]" Well a lot of people don't leave the job number one number two jobs don't turn over as much now as they did even. A few years ago because the of the Sports Radio market were pretty industry. Has. Pretty much in a trade to the marketplace and -- right now you've got well over 70800 stations they consider themselves. All all sports even if they're in all that they have a new show or they do this for the -- Rush Limbaugh or they do you know Imus in the morning -- indicated thing you know in the morning because there's -- all Sports Radio. Probably. Thousands of radio station that carries significant amount of sports programming and maybe even do some sports talk programming within. Suffice to say Joshua the only that the best -- like he give you is exactly what my priorities that -- willing to do anything. But it's probably best guards were close to where you're from which would be Fresno California. You should if -- if -- pictures old. My guess is you're already you know done with school right so a lot of stations look for interns and if your school age. That's your that your foot in the door is to you know work an internship better at a station. If you're too old. Or -- out of school. You should probably looking into you know broadcast schools they have Connecticut school broadcasting -- in the northeast. In particular where he can go and you can take courses to learn how to produce to learn how to run aboard and to learn how to be on the air. If you do that come out with basically the equivalent of an associate degree. You can be hired Reid Pete Sheppard from WEEI and that makes because he gets -- graduate."

[45:04]" Good -- Orlando Florida however died. Good news out of Orlando Florida it -- I forgot about it is that Orlando Florida Dillard or died. John halama on the on the -- Duke game. I'm. You know. The -- Go to your standard. Anymore but -- Like -- that you said that they don't have yeah. Because it's really difficult to relocate for a job at that -- if you're going to relocate to find something to do but I mean here Josh let me give -- example. Contributed to Shell or contribute to PFW in progress. Up the phone and call in and if you become this what you could work on. What I consider your honor your skills to -- you have to make you know clear and -- statements you have to do your homework and ask more questions. Volume to be able to come back -- feedback endorsement now doing your homework before you come on if you have a question to ask and be willing to banter back and forth with those -- were on the air if you become known as a good collar. Is that this program POW order the collar shortly a hole in your local market in Fresno California. Then whenever you call the producers lines all you ride on. And I I I know I don't get a job well that's what -- about -- I'm radio stations are so enamored with their callers they have offer them jobs to post their own show it is happened in -- of the ticket in Dallas or or at the it happened it obviously fifteenth and the ticket in in in Boston -- you break -- general -- at the gym yet exactly back off work on your it'll. Work on your skills. Phone call as well again as they call in and then. You can take them. Or what exactly under -- that our job and calls sports here's John from his mother's basement. The land and butt -- the -- More. -- only -- a anyway there's there's -- like. This come from walker who is guys. Ought to get your thoughts on the game this week to me if that was good wins in difficult situations in the pats. Was still able to grind out a win with -- good -- in the ends were needed. -- cast was starting to look more comfortable. Like Andy -- starting to make the quicker read novel on the ball -- long Will -- props. It would be nice to have either Sammy or LaMont Jordan or both of them. Back this league Kevin Faulk in the aging like bread. Oh. -- could carry the load and he says he has diminishing skills they called comedies. Which was different. Personalities but -- Our sakes. Pick out of -- Do you -- the front seven is now playing a -- far be okay he good or the excellent in the carrying the."

[48:10]" Team law I would go that far but I would hate -- that good at the last two weeks. Paul didn't really -- down a lot of pressure of the Denver game I thought they had better pressure. My argument was that it was obviously -- than it was against San Diego but it's hard to be worth because everything putts Philip Rivers. Now it gets -- they were clearly they might be the first play of the game he whacked his hand over his helmet. Now require a defender being there in his state -- right away there was more pressure packed game but clearly on Sunday. I'm much more concerted effort to get after Marc Bulger forced him McNamee with. And I like Seymour had a great game probably his best game definitely his best game of the year. And you -- started either pass rush that we thought we -- Beckett takes the heat off the secondary but we've also learned is. There's not enough of a pass or take all the heat off the secondary that point deserts of anybody's out there were missing right in guys who odd position on the -- You can win if you can rush the passer you know with the limited personnel back there -- finally gave the effort that we waiting on Sunday. And you hope for the Patriots says the sign things that come I think a lot of it and we talked about -- show was -- right fuel economy during the week. Where we asked about defensive rotations and why guys like Seymour Wilfork and Warren only played half the snaps against Denver in the was statistically proven. About thirty snaps that he. Out of sixty totals. A lot of that you come up on their dime and that and that it was a blowout though that you guys complain but there -- rookie from the Arctic. And a lot of times you guys like Wilfork who comes off on third down Michael Wright comes in -- that even comes in. And we asked bill about that you know you tricky tragic way to that the in re Indy getting out LB has is his average you what you plan. Otherwise we don't have a -- you like now. Every guy because. But he. Was talking about. I think part of me Vinny a shot -- Seymour who is suppose -- pro Pro Bowl. Respected defensive end Astros as he hasn't hasn't been that and a couple years -- base but -- and they we saw monster game you wonder he's at that guy. Nothing -- that they -- it's hard to sleep. And at odd times at the good thing I think -- responded that it a lot of guys respond to it well. Doesn't apply to everybody don't write -- keep my bills Thomas has played every now for about six games and he's clearly -- Reggie -- he goes out there -- but not everybody else it."

[50:44]" As here is secondary going to struggle over the rest of the season and you predicted Peyton is going to throw 400 yards on the weekend. I don't think it will over 400 but -- secondary is going to struggle absolutely etiquette -- told them guys back healthy and even if they they do. Who here really -- about there yet and Harrison back he's done for the year now. We need to see is a more maturation process from a guy that Johnson will play and he's been covering receivers -- though he struggled a -- at times on Sunday. Terrence Wheatley needs to get whatever he needs to get get it quickly. Because he is on him playing well. Wheatley did not gonna feel until Hobbs went down or baton and take you back in the second half when ticket holder. I mean he's that far down and depth chart for a guy that we all book could be starter coming out of camp. As a lot of you know what kind of you know precipitous drop he had suffered. From the beginning of spring camps and training camp it's really kind of scary to think about it I have to tell you that I I'd I'd I don't mind it believe it or not. And maybe this little strange I don't mind seem Brandon Meriweather c'mon play the corner. No I mean he obviously did in college surely has that versatility. The you kind of wonder if that is trying to put too much plate right now because he's being asked to fill in to do a lot -- of -- a debate for a guy like Harrison is playing a lot already. But clearly now this was the first I mean -- taken every snap in the game. So obviously that oracle is increasing -- we talked about the previous show last week was how. With with -- and off the air and meriwether and there is in the lineup now artists. They may be more adept at their specific roles maybe now you can put Sanders holds the line and you played very -- deep and they could find their niche. But they've both struggled at times on Sunday or a couple of times or is does this play up close and there are a couple of times are very weather is not in the given that help people over the top it was at Hobbs collided with a -- was Anderson and he got there late and have taken up got the bullets and -- on the right. -- like watching Bubba Crosby Gary Sheffield climbing -- against the Angels in the -- keystone cops kind of yeah I mean it's like the other -- those -- and a -- of the music you know I mean it wasn't good. And -- less of that and I think you know I keep seeing it until they get more time together on the field right this is obviously a work in progress and it's going to be a worker progress only. Yes exactly that's exactly."

[53:08]" Also the -- sort of on a free agent this one of the year what would they have to pay him in terms of salary and how long would have to be contract. I mean -- guys are free agency has given me veteran basically veteran minimum right and notre pro rated over the number of claims that you have left in the year if we trade for somebody news -- contract -- what the veteran minimum for fifty. The question I think it's 400 to a child that he said that figure it reminded that he got half the season you don't to a quarter. -- much at all. Do you see that if secondary continues to struggle of big plays -- the pats could sign Ty Law for the back into the season to a one year deal or something and help him. With a -- Cora safeties in not proven come corner. Well he'd be the one guy that. Of all government I've heard would make and but they had the chance John they had the chance they've ordered it font span that. Off the practice. You know that you look at baskets with every back tablets that its history back tournaments that did you don't want -- That he's not any good anymore. And I I didn't feel that I don't think I was going to help either well I think that would brought him back that one yet to do that I agree with you now that you did make that point last week that. There's a reason they brought in on right simply because that does. They don't really early on and gone our -- the end -- whatever you pronounce it gives them more than John I was told -- on him postal but I could be wrong I don't know. That's our opening -- We need his name and Otis -- we need to have a ordinarily Klecko signed -- we do we should -- big brown decent guide to double check. Attention there. I think Cassel has developed a point now reckon that -- name is excited to watch every -- that game much like last year's. Where I believe there is an expectation that the pats win every game hope with a roller coaster ride doesn't continue instead the -- keep rising and rising from from the last two games. The -- good. Hopefully big Matt Cassel post 300 yards and five TDs this week it's called the fans that couldn't stop Kerry Collins. Making important plays on them. Could email the road course is going to continue this isn't going to turn -- hero and get under and that lasts there was no one's lifetime thing. Where he had a pretty good chance of going to winner -- it to the -- Now we don't know anymore and there are no easy games and as much -- this AG you know you can only beat the Rams without even -- seven. For this team with everything has gone through. A charge of both ways does that have -- way at that. Point -- really get me and I think this is where a lot of the fans. Our our our spoiled in this is one of mine and it -- not the only that we go to John -- but it's one of my and it picks and are you going back -- that I probably had 23 weeks ago. And the fact that there are."

[55:49]" Dictation -- just way. Too high and third in an -- understand why they are. But I think most of the people who listen to us in the programming here on this web site. I think intelligent fans are smart -- they understand what all the interest in the nature of sports let it certainly understand the nature of the National Football League for those that don't. Get it that I think those the ones -- at the expectation that it -- the rules. This team is not now. Close last year's team even though. You know I get like will they did this and then this should happen or if that happens in this should follow understand what you have is that they. My problem with ideas is that you don't read in other factors you hear people say well injury should never be a deciding well Hendry should never be an excuse but they are. A factor. They are that you can't you injury as an excuse because what that get back to usual overall depth of the organization. It's of -- footed at the organization and Hendry views aren't as great. One held a lot it's incapable back you know -- my injuries -- not an excuse but they all are an explanation and it is an explanation for where this team is. Where they are. And even last year. You know things that were able with the most unbelievable -- that the modern day National Football League has ever seen. -- healthy. The Brady had here are. Not going to measure up so why all. So. Everybody needs to bring their their right down just a notch and they bring it down just a notch again because you don't have. You know Tom Brady -- and not again because you don't have Maroney and you don't have Jordan and you don't have more. Not again because Randy Moss got droppings and passed. Bring on another not because the off the line isn't all cracked up to be on the property he'll make that open line -- last year and the other haven't learned to readjust I've made this statement several times on this program. Learn to play with Matt Cassel. And maybe they're starting to get it now and I helped that he even want to help the situation is actually comes to run blocking. Well you know it's all coming together slowly but there's no he should ever. Ever expect this team to -- up the petals were it was almost one maybe once lifetime type with what we all. And in in terms of remarkable for the entire season the reason that it is the reason that the team that went well. There's -- out there. It marks the -- That's -- unbelievably rare and difficult what they did last year means to the people within this organization. And so in that regard. My biggest nitpick but almost the entire year is that right are too high via the hole in the which is too high. Bring it down and watched. Put this team on an even keel when everybody else and then like the amount that."

[58:58]" I agree you can expect back to back sixteen and now it's probably never going to happen again not play in doing and it they do a panic and it cheapens the value you know. Beyond that happened two years consecutive. That we have an issue but I agree with your point wanted to get back to the appointment primary teacher up and make the line better at -- time he does because. He knows when to step up in the pocket wanted to -- the Russian -- you can deal with the bad pass block. Or or poor protection where. I need to feel a bit more perfect. And a little -- I operate. And the big -- this line is. It -- hold up block 12 longer it to seconds they need -- Tom Brady there. -- and has canceled grows and learns how to step up in the pocket and avoid those plays that may be kind of it kind of our level off where one guy goes out that it has come down and and you are to meet somewhere in the middle. That that's the ideal situation they should hope for four. Matt from Connecticut writes those very impressed with the team this week -- is able to get very big stops."

[1:00:00]" look great however we do need to make it big change in a secondary if we hope to compete with the better teams. I think that's going to be the overwhelming need. The secondary is yet it was going to be it's about that -- because they're going to keep giving up plays and time to time and in in. In a close game those plays literally mean the difference. In the final outcome and you gain a game like. High in the fourth and meaning if this yard bomb Reggie Wayne. And fell right. That he cannot have that nobody can -- plays. Claybrook -- you are K brooks -- wanting your forgetting about this win in regards to the fans it was against the Rams. They -- do that next week against a decent team. What what that report team yeah a decent 34 team and Ivan -- an athlete right. -- haven't played that well no they haven't but again it's perception it's all. You know frankly the Rams were not as bad as David A -- or not is that as -- the Oden or anger I started out debate because they had quit on Scotland and we discussed this last week they'd quit on -- that clearly changed direction it was the right move made by the ownership of the Rams. Georgia frontier analogous in front of the team now and Jim has it was the right call he became inning in basically takes a man -- and he has very competitive now. -- it did and and frankly I think it's great I I think it actually keep the job. He might you know this is they're really good addition. They aren't you with the first two games and he comeback in Washington -- now they come here -- want to take -- right to the -- against the Patriots yeah -- is that a pretty good start. In -- at the very good start. Tony in Greenwich Connecticut is Mike Vrabel gotten old in a hurry. He has yet to come close to sacking quarterback why isn't Pierre Woods not seeing more action he -- on the edge may be used. The success or failure and or failure of this team is all predicated on the pass rush. If they can get a -- to be right there for a playoff spot of the can't arrest the quarterback they will be scored on it will. I want to see more woods more tighten the speed they provide is vital to this."

[1:02:10]" Well I agree there Vrabel handled it quiet this year and we talk about that the previous show. Where was in Sunday all the pressure -- and -- he really had to produce much of anything it was not a big factor now. I don't know Pierre Woods is the answer he's -- at about 1015. At -- and that's per game as a speed rusher on third down and that's fine. Any more than that probably asking too much and as far as going to the -- is an inside linebacker he's an interior player. You know going to be putting -- gain the edge he's not a viable replacement for Vrabel you basically need Vrabel played better. That's what comes down to he has to be better now -- dale Thomas since he's moved back to his -- the outside. Now although he does Dillon's night times he's far more on the outside in the -- that he was last year. And now he's sort of produce and take over that role as the best pass rushing linebacker and you see it by playing about. Six snaps a game. On average and that's the big thing for Thomas that started a martyr of him a little bit less out of Vrabel though you wanted to kind of levels off a bit. I'll think that's the way the Patriots look at a play at eight from the standpoint that's kind of what's happening. By the -- he also asked what's the latest on Oliver Ross. But the clocks so again he's got I think with a week left now including. These few days so he came off. Prior to the Broncos game before the right right though he has a 21 day window. From the day he started practicing which is darn close the order he's going to be healthy enough he may have to be released or put and I are that are in the year if he's not activate this game that pretty much does. So is that and I thought he because it could come in as a starter because nick Maggio hasn't played particularly well right tackle. And now a little bit banged up. We know what my uncle Boris played pretty well at tackle filling in for catcher. So maybe they're looking forward thinking you know what losses -- a 100% needed ever be a hundred per cent. The Al Gore's an okay job let's keep him in let's go to him the main a B what's happening because they've both. Essentially moved had a Wesley -- who has not played a lot -- back -- role now as you look at laborious job and Iraq we have a pretty big hill to climb if you want to get on the active."

[1:04:17]" Roster. This from -- from Christians as good win over the Rams are looks like Jake Long is the better pick Gholston. Solid effort on dean even though Cassel threw two picks that were tipped. His comfort level in the pocket. In going to his progression is clearly evident with what we've been talking about that hasn't been there in recent weeks and hopefully showing up the right time big test and Indy this week Colts need this win bad. No doubt about that. Any is as for Moss I agree with the Indy earlier palace catches come to mind like last year but the ones in the end zone against the Bengals in the Colts when he basically leaped over defenders. Get me wrong I don't but he's checking out but it just like he was held -- On proving everybody wrong last year and this year is like now what do what do."

[1:05:00]" Well I bakery. He adding yet Purdue's there on tickets every issue I don't think he is taken -- gains -- pretty much mail and at this point. -- last race at the bar so I'd be a catch 23 touchdowns. What do you do -- on court if you catch fifteen that's a great year with a down year by. So it's hard to live up to that. At the same time he's got way too many open ones and that's not really that has nothing to do with the bar being lowered a bit. -- Carlson look honey you're having you have to make some of the catch he has."

[1:05:32]" Yeah and that's my other Nittany Benoit Randy Moss does seems. Seems at times almost too lackadaisical. Like the concentration and their like he's either looking up field or look at away and the ball gets his hands in his will bull into -- I'm not sure what it is but evidently but my biggest victory is. We're not getting the Randy Moss that we had last year and we're going to get that. Well okay then that is physically upon what eatery such I agree but catch I don't think we yet you've got -- I put their hands I mean let's face. Matt Cassel is not Tom Brady so when he's out on with his throws you'd Hampshire better -- him. You know. And so it's not -- fault but number he's not out there can't catch the ball from play quarterback if it where you might -- to play quarterback. It was still Randy Moss is job to catch Campbell -- thirty. There. -- threading the needle when -- guys. All right web radio at Patriots dot com REE mail addressed. 585437482. Of the telephone number he put common keep emails come on keep your nit -- on this nitpick Tuesday comment. Brian -- will join us. Brian Lowe will be joining us come on an hour and Mike I appreciate your standing by and being with -- in this particular program. Oh good I want to run well. Talk to below. Okay what does the older that after the applicable."

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[1:11:14]" On Patriots dot com radio we say. Bryant alone -- low. Line hello what's up below. What's going good to be here with Michael Brett you hi Mike cloud around -- idea. Of all this that they might bring it into an expected. Pleasant treat for both I don't know about -- and it. Unexpected yet I had a lot of we have a lot of quality time and it's Louisiana golf cart. And with Duke hit it and -- had and well we're we're trying to rather we were we are bowl that I can Kosier our friends the from the UK a Patriot. Turned out that. They're tailgate party was in was right thumb or wasn't Attleboro -- think you'll remember there -- going to be there were attending to to have their tailgate in what the parking lot closer they are and you know across one down the road in. You know we've got a camera equipment now that helped to wacko their rival there's going to be a little too quiet often we try to golf cart but. Michael and I camera crew and that by going up via. Shortly before the game that an interview then and we're going to have a little bit on it for that -- went on the other person coming up. I pressure my eyebrows although it once today completely out of there is that this -- refreshing my -- won't let him refresh my browser Michael Reggie here to bring you know this is a very -- showed -- tiebreak that -- migrant. Yeah DI like it might edit yeah hearty cheer to bring the toilet humor of the what is a lofty standard to me if you Sydney I don't -- I agree I Indies digestive problem and that. Aren't."

[1:12:47]" Let's go let's get back and it -- by the -- and what were working on -- on Tuesday he had that big Tuesday in by the playbook as we kind of nitpick some of the things we didn't particularly like about the Patriots in the -- most pre game which of course was the 2316 win over the Rams on Sunday. And it's our job sort of kind of take a look at the things we don't like as well as things we liked about. You know and he's going -- emails let me let. Michael gets his chief nit pick as you mentioned them the last hour. I don't want to leave anybody -- hang up just like dot I got to know what my -- he's nitpicking is about this game I think is."

[1:13:22]" Mock you -- well the secondary was -- okay good. But his -- and I was -- there -- so I guess that it -- him and admit to I mean. He's got a couple upon out of -- either inside and in in recent weeks to wake -- putt -- Brian I don't know if you noticed -- His booming everything on the back of the end zone houses probably still."

[1:13:42]" That was probably had it been it's been on -- but I think if you're asking your punter. Dubya precision punter and and went to a certain point. If that's the job I don't even think the best punter Lee could ever to hunt for that's -- they don't -- pitcher national. There's two bakery when you're anywhere you don't with with the punt where it'll -- granted this was not a good day for and I'm not ain't he great moderate you agree year. And that if that's his job they're doing anything to control -- haven't so precise now he's also been overshadowed by some. But ridiculous punting job by opposing players. The difference -- go. The -- for Denver the other day who had what you do that the seven yarder that was going to it was a penalty and it you know. He's stacked up in the back presents on your thinking okay he's second half of the year but he got up like Europe is so you know he's got it over chatter is not -- any special here in -- wasn't apparently good or any good it was a particular particularly good day he's not a moment but now. I don't think he's not good enough not to put you know what for some reason it's been good enough for a year half for this coach well I mean what are we missing."

[1:14:50]" with a got a little -- out like get a little Josh Miller. -- that ship has sailed and I so like little analyze Asian of hello. What's that. Are are are there there's like that's lycra and later. Yeah I mean -- little analyze him right. When he released the ball average and noticed this last week a lot of guys when they're trying to go over the coffin corner or they're trying to hit the ball in I had the the twenty yard line and get that at all important that I twenty -- point but -- lot of guys put them knows the ball down when they -- in order to get the band or the kick back if you -- the ball doesn't -- Honestly when -- ago the same -- almost every time he's got that knows the ball up which means the ball's going to it has a tendency to hit on lap part of the ball large part of -- part of the lower right they go on upn is going to go through. There -- go. Thank you very much like yea I have just analyze."

[1:15:47]" The punter we'll get -- in relative that it takes a -- read that Hansen has been a -- all of a split it open like that wouldn't he be coached on changing that often you would think so it wouldn't be -- EU would take some reason he into didn't have the ability to do it or the ability to be coached. When they get someone who at least. Is it decent punter and hitting coach -- Bolton while they brought I don't know -- guys in the practice by the that your opponent and obviously an Emery let go right I think they've pretty much given up on that project when can't find anybody that they're going at once as a player is not a big. And be the big."

[1:16:20]" Issue Ali right and it's not -- they're not -- I think they felt like you know what -- to got a leg. For him to do what we need him to do because we're not into you know the coffin corner thing a lot because we feel confident but I -- the thought. Because we don't have anybody that's had children of out of hand atlas is keeping that's."

[1:16:37]" I think happened and maybe he's just a dominant holder. -- did you got my but it really I don't worry I'm I'm getting there it but but who could quickly turn out. But the fact is to me -- I don't know much is out there I don't know what punters are going to go to the beavers dominant a good thought I was kept alive -- generational Atlanta area but I'm Christine in his -- as a top five older. I think their puppet but but but he's not that. He probably does that put us back he's not a guy he -- you want a back you partied -- Q does he needed it bounces up does he cut back. I don't know the I don't you you make a great job on on the -- in Europe based you know that have been here you here's the other observation is a special teams now. -- obviously don't have the human joystick was running back kick for St. Louis and I don't think he's quite the same type. You know that was nothing holding them. I was on it better predict -- the dead on doing it well -- really what I what what was the goal was to cut Dayton. Arcade that -- in arcades are different type of joystick -- and mystery candidate on our."

[1:17:54]" Not just going to the Dante Hall you knew going into the game that even though he still not quite what he was when he was can't at least a pretty effectively all great. Return that had to come back etiquette -- fantastic. But the Patriots did make the adjustments special teams wise I was very happy Kelley Washington flying back of the football again that was a big step in the right direction raven -- at but at a very very good hit on hall of a second half of that as well that allowed Washington come up and making it in and finish off tackle you know the special teams. Winner went pretty good with the I mean all the with the exception of course we're talking about Chris Hanson. I'm. Asking -- I thought was just a little all I would think that he would put more -- more effort. Into getting that ball deep into the end on knowing that a guy like hall was back there I don't think all that maybe was just. Maybe it was designed like I'm I'm quite certain right try to nullify any report. But if the Patriots special teams -- not talking about punting necessarily but. Tick off kick off coverage punt punt coverage has been exceptional this year I think you mention -- try I think it may be the most consistent. One of the most consistent special teams perform well on the team -- down there telling me watch and it has -- fabulous I think for what he's been healthy when he's been down there and Patriots special teams and kick return -- doggone good now of course I say that you know what the onside kick to the it was a brilliant. Move well Jim has and the -- has not brought -- going to have because you know frankly that just -- win right other Patriots they'll they had a chance for the opening position again after -- with programs like that opening -- go to the -- give -- the Patriots -- for stopping -- on -- on downs on -- on the drive but. I thought that was a brilliant play I'm really surprised we don't see that happen -- all."

[1:19:39]" You and you're actually right because. Other than the rams' sideline it was era or was there a hole in the building who thought that I'm now including. I wasn't around you know what you situation. Right exactly and they have a right personnel on the field and you don't pay great call by then. I don't think the Patriots screwed up by not recovering. That was coming program but the point is -- neck and while that every now that your team especially if you're on the road a year to ignore you or absolutely your head around the game like you know. -- go out and you play to win win and you play too -- that coached -- and yet if you play doing what they what if they want us almost one -- no. And -- opposing coach if you got an idea about that a they'll need. -- with Deion like gay community the big thing for their hands -- the disallowed a score at the end of act. The pats have -- quite cause they're going to get back to back offensive possession and I kind of negated holding. With -- like -- Now they use that Bryant big it was stopping them I think the Reno it was a rain out there -- six yard run run for no gain incomplete pass. And Patriots get Obama Patriots and it -- interception. But it became field it's sort of became a field position they didn't have what that would take because -- Patriots after that three and out -- England Patriots get the ball and they throw in action in those combat with a field goal to wanted to tie the game -- so even though the onside kick it helped. Didn't work right off the -- it it became a bit of field position game help."

[1:21:11]" But the way another nit pick but don't like different like. I think the whole rule changes ridiculous and totally overblown I understand why you do in the college game because momentum is such a huge part of the college game. But I think in the pros -- if you get the ball to start off alarm goes school or yes I said I was I -- precisely. You need to make a statement right off the opening bell. And I just I'm not a big fan of deferring -- it when you win the boss. Is they haven't had a big fan of wanting your you know you we've been here."

[1:21:40]" About with a couple different things well you know if you -- what kind of confidence that -- and I'll always renting I think because if you want to take the ball early had the opportunity take the ball right out of the locker it's also play in the -- you want the -- in the fourth quarter although that's right well right now it all enters the equation on Sunday is -- win. That hasn't won a smaller -- galore. That's when I'm in the fifth man I'm always going to all right they gonna have that right I get a touchdown pass. He did the other team but you know. This is Matt has but those making news -- the runner is his sister in law right. Now. His life. With -- He doesn't actually -- right at him like. That's an area not now that I know when it. Yeah that's not him absolutely yeah. Elizabeth Hasselbeck is it gives you are not very quiet and yeah that him like that is Elizabeth. And yeah him that his -- beat him -- below -- I don't know my view what I try to I know -- I should've known better Hillary -- exhibited here both our -- that. On news that yeah news quote unquote news. If you mean really you know Lilly went about Rosie wants us right off Scott from Bruce and I -- wait right."

[1:23:04]" I have a question about the Rooney rule as I understand the Rooney rule requires National League teams. To interview minority candidate for coaching opportunities. Provision in Jim hasn't contract was voided because of the rule. Six game win requirement to continue with the head coach next year. My question is what is the difference between Jim has Contra situation. And Jason Garrett who is an -- is next in line for the Dallas head coaching job with Dallas required an interview minority candidate. You know it seems Dallas is -- elected him while they already in violation of this."

[1:23:34]" Rule I don't know the exact rule but I can say that British -- Dallas and yeah that'll are in the same position I think Seattle has already. I think I'd him more junior. Is replacing Mike Holmgren and there is some sort of rule again I don't know the exact wording of it there something in place where you could hire a coach. With the intention of with the Pirates has been with the intention of that person taking over -- media day. If it a year and -- the thing I don't know the he does -- it's a great question. And it definitely one now I'll take a look at try to find out -- threw him out because there is something there is a difference between a coach being fired in he's in. And the interim replacing him and neck inactive you do need to -- by the Rooney rule. And having a guy in writing in plays for coach -- goal to resign are going to quit after year. I don't know the exhibit but Seattle is in the same position as Dallas a couple of runs on again."

[1:24:33]" The the whole idea of green and igniting grooming him the job -- I was going to be available to a three years anyway. I don't doubt we're in right not what I have had a commitment that part of it anyway number two. Why didn't somebody with yet militants are it's a waste of everybody's time and I'm not let the Rooney rule any snow at the point is but if they have a guy they wanted. And your coaches has been part in the year you have your guy right there like like people in prison that your abilities and getting angry or waste everybody's time."

[1:25:00]" I agree you because if St. Louis ends up going stay 8897106. And has had as a got out that if if they goal by the Rooney rule and bring in half -- Two interview for the job those other had those other half dozen candidates are going to know they have no shot. They're going to be there soccer they're just they're did you know it to play you know to play the game has that would have a job in in why should he. I agree I I and trying to do."

[1:25:26]" But the way their time other the other opportunities morale and that's how. You want to bring it. Let's hardly anyone. They are and I think I think you know whether it's I think the Rooney rule has helped -- if you I'm not sure what the percentages of minority. I'd head coaches in the NFL but it certainly certainly grown guarantees you don't know rusher it might it's common is important because their hero but because they really want. Only have to -- I don't. They've got together they want and what you do it with the percentage of the road rules and you don't bring guys in for interviews it does help their overall profile even if you know -- it means you're out there as a candidate for coaching job. That we help Detmer -- so you know it is a question I I and I'm curious myself and try to take a look at the show on on on exactly what the stipulations. Tosses and there will be a lot of assistant coaches. In the Patriots hall of things -- married. But and then technically go all politics replaced present. But what about done. For a coach -- he brought for a coach I don't want I think it's not over for all all coaches hall. -- the did you you know lie and I I may generate no question I think I think he'd be in the category of like the equivalent of a Troy Brown or Faulk I'd I who. Under rated -- under appreciated but then he gets to a point in his career like. -- he's been through you right -- he he's been here other than I think one year. Or one short period time you left for maybe the Colts but other than that -- like the late seventies he's been here. -- early he's a coach here right under the how many coaches that. And there when he -- seasons there many guys that count Raymond berry rod rust up. Actors and a."

[1:27:15]" Came after the first Bill Parcells Parcells. Pete Carroll. Well about it coached and guys. Would the first argument -- rust -- I was very very yanks coach everything. Was what was his first year here if you look at via. Do anything it was that -- is. For that very first year in very -- around right around -- and where right or it's okay but it coaches. How many ownership on the administration's nominee GM you know -- decision makers -- head coaches and 123. Leadership for ownership and a time yeah. I was on mars for -- okay it's over on my -- coach coaches and I -- I think and -- as far as you know coach if you bring -- here. Gary -- Yeah -- in our lives six yeah audio evidence code that's significant."

[1:28:09]" And the guys that he's coached everything tight ends offensive line which he does now that's with -- special teams defensive assistant linebackers. I mean god he he has excellent football knowledge. And survive -- Q so those administration's really says a lot. Because most of the time they come they just pretty much."

[1:28:26]" They bring in the odd guy a break and I and I know it's Adams -- on the all of its not a -- in the past as well aspect yeah so this definitely tell you that his respect level. Around the league is that you know is is at a high even though he's never really. Tree you know he's never really aspire to being head coach and interim head coach the Patriots you know you know he was he right without their conference father's funeral right it was up rhetorically it was all I believe it and -- prior to that I think in the."

[1:28:53]" It was somewhere right on the roster makes her yeah you're right I think maybe I'm -- yeah. Because I'm not sure but I was from you know it's 99 it was a Russell and season. I know I think 9091 and -- you're here tonight do. But not that did get right after the -- guys. The most fascinating. Thing about but Dante Scarnecchia. In addition to the notion of how many different positions you've coached. If you surveyed the training camp or -- game where he practices ever. This guy is the small human being right on the field right and he -- that ripping a six foot nine Wesley Britt. Any one in from from pillar to post that he's a little whip snapper. Any of the smallest. Guy on the field he is he is a fascinating guy you know when you think about how a five foot eight or whatever years guy if he can leverage to these massive offensive -- how to block out of your footwork and body control -- is -- really from and how he can coach. How how someone can coach -- position like that when your -- you know two different you know. -- NFL offensive line. It's fast and he's he's he's a tremendous coach and players constantly praise him for the way to prepare the way to -- yet immigrant by the now. You have to hip replaced it and let suggested Todd then television just then that you know maybe you -- you know. The fans are part of each year's you know induction class bring his name. Yeah -- of this the etiquette is -- to be brought up your -- it's it's going to be a tight. It's tight race coming up always going to be interesting you know -- this whole regime. Yeah the target of the play aren't aren't there yet I don't know -- everybody in this there -- to expect. Probably -- you have Bruschi Vrabel these guys all literal but the real interest in later a debate him -- The public -- the Klecko cal tackle the tackle Klecko. And it. John -- South Carolina says this question was asked. And I had a hard time coming up with -- is that we could we magically could have Ty Law back in his prime but had to replaced one starter in our secondary. In would only have -- for a year contract will pay him. And who would draw I'd replace anyone in the secondary yeah I run one run yeah oh absolutely absolutely not having any of their current to get high on his prime he's at his answer was to take law drop O'Neill he's -- in the -- that has -- ago. Who would be the next -- are back well. Likely back -- secondary plays. A secondary are harder what is out there so say -- hurt your car for regular Aardsma Ellis Hobbs Deltha O'Neal James standard for Maryland on me O'Neal would be first -- as high a lot of crime for. No not on nine for correct and and I think Ty Law in his prime better than Ellis Hobbs right now I thought that they -- and -- mean you're you're talking in different variables here because of the position but right. -- on prime owners take that law and who -- himself whoever -- whoever I I drop. Any medium. I drop any room for Iowa for two years his -- about it -- babe Ruth future bottom line is the team -- line right now. Quarterback is probably their biggest problem area right now Ty -- his prime was a top five cornerback sure sure there's no question he'd give me -- to beat Iowa for now. The more realistic what in his. What Ty Law. Ty Law on the team's radar screen. I -- who he is right now at this very moment now. Because the good adamantly I agree I agree it categorize spot if he was green -- quit the quit the they don't want to say right last week what was last week. Well without talking with Rodney Harrison and I are okay but they wanted to bring him back then go to what they had they really need it once upon. Over Iowa another -- edict play dealt better with Ireland is obviously on Charlotte either he was -- against that we bring back John Lynch we had a roster spot -- we didn't bring back gently as he. But what what does but the overall but -- the overall secondary situation worse off today than it was last week. Depending on the status of O'Neal even Abby once or worse off now -- So I'm I'm saying like eighty now -- your chances are. All little leaguers yet even from a week ago. With the with with. Deltha O'Neal needy he's can cost and needy he's he's awful in the week. Maybe Ellis Hobbs had you know whatever he entered the game with shoulder I think I'm you know -- knee injury situation grind because clearly one of those guys out there -- I agree I completely agree you -- Needing now they're at the point -- brought -- in Bosnia and do -- bring -- Mark -- and completely -- Brandon -- cornerback -- if there is an issue -- quarterback. I'm. You'd have to reevaluate again maybe although it is east east eighth I think he's played at Roland he's just aren't committed as owner of the we take on the record. You you wouldn't. Which they -- they go to that live on the same day that her ankles or anybody's mind sort of -- confidence back there to become a vocal leader make plays a -- played him in its way to college it's different. Now. Totally totally."

[1:34:17]" John as I was -- to WEEI in the short time exactly what our data entry. In the post season was a foregone conclusion -- wants to throw nearly every game exactly. Well our offense is making progress there were a lot of mistakes are running back situation worries me. All props given the great job Faulk is done our secondary may not be able to get much better. I'm not sure if there's anyone in our cornerback corps that is a legitimate starting quarterback on another team. I I know Hobbs is supposed to be good. But he keeps on giving up big plays I don't understand only -- so for all the receiver yet I agree -- that I know some of his experience but as any cornerback we have a keeper as of right now. While Cubs -- so worker progress I think."

[1:34:59]" Hobbs has some value but -- and I -- too early to tell I mean these rookies haven't looked great by any means but you know -- rookie cornerback or of the up against some of these wide receivers they've got against. I think it'll it's a lot and hoping we can write them off just yet we might be hard price to -- that they can make huge difference in 2008. I'm but they're not going anywhere. On I think the quarterback situation is a prop -- added you don't feel confident with any any -- when Ellis Hobbs officers not 18 okay fine you've got shut down guy and you live and die with with what Ellis Hobbs can do on the other side. On when when Ty Law always -- and his -- hockey team who was the young guy who just coming into his -- we know we had yet okay got Taiwanese shut down guy you deal with the -- They don't have the shut down guy right now they don't have that clear cut number one guy. You don't they're facing some big time offences including in the next couple weeks it's a problem area on right now it they don't have the number one guy an awful lot of and it's an issue that the combination right there that's a tough combination overcome. When you go up against Indianapolis. When you go up against an emerging Buffalo offense. I'm you know Brett Favre yes it. -- isn't great but he's still Brett Favre and they got weapons on big guys and tough weeks coming up right now. And without having that clear cut definitive number one guy without having depth when when Mike Richardson has your number three guy with -- He sort of is right now and will -- Wheatley where you're rookies who might have some promise but their your fourth and fifth guys right now that's a problem. But the price is right they don't have a number one they had a guy who's the best by default. Yeah any other Edmonds that got sort odds we'll sort O'Neill today and that's a problem and maybe it's one thing if you don't have that number one but your top four are all -- very good if not -- they don't have that -- you know. They're number one guy's in great in their 234 guys. Aren't maybe even very good."

[1:36:45]" Right now will will you still learning and what he's out there -- times he's struggling covering those slot receivers. He just got beat a few times -- Sunday Elliott in an idea you're right that Julia and but really not even being ahead we'll hit that point. For a guy that we talked earlier this show a guy with those starter coming out Kampman. And wasn't even on the field Sunday to Hobbs got -- let me throw this out there you know they they signed and released Fernando Bryant and Jason Webster. In the offseason. Are those you know what was Fernando Bryant because that is terrible terrible three season and I I was surprised they caught him. He probably deserve to be cut but you know he doesn't have a job right now and he'll be had for five months of the off season in the system. I wonder if -- considered him if they brought him in for another walk Ortiz and -- who was hurt for most of the pre season and you know maybe just didn't really get the opportunity to compete for jobs aren't you wonder if these guys -- to -- highlight this point. It would -- work bring up bugger but a guy like Bryant or Webster -- younger than the law of being here as recently as August. You wonder if they are if not clear -- solutions if they are options if -- as I would say Bryant. No chance that it should be you know they saw all they needed to hear him in in in camp. Specifically the pre season I tend to agree but they might have certainly veto because he was hurt and that wasn't really -- performance that -- performance that you could perform exactly players injured pro guy but it lately and we -- on that I would probably note with -- I don't think either one of -- guys know who they -- either one of those guys out of the job now I just let those. Your your pride right and and and -- go to the field for the last receiving game and he did play receiver he played a little bit but not nearly enough I mean obviously -- today. And can't make the club from the -- below if that's a great life and I I agree with all this and it it would your right the ship to right field but. I'm if they if they are more abide and we won't know really until tomorrow afternoon practice report. If they are more of a bind right now that we think they are or than they were last week because you -- or -- are struggling or they feel like point. We you know Fata Richard and I will -- all these guys and while writing them off their careers we can't rely and that. You know this Sunday night in Indianapolis you wonder if these -- option Bryant you know you get away Alou is an ego yeah and you wonder he can you ever forget the multiple mean he's got a few different injuries -- and I grinning he if you look. That hasn't gotten beat like on the I think he's I think he's looked. Like he could beat dependable reliable -- him."

[1:39:21]" And -- in the the in the news Washington on ESPN -- afternoon with the Rams are taking the game -- yet from the game on Sunday and they're sending them the league office complaining apparently that there were many missed calls by the officiating -- because the -- only like the one time that the penalty was refused."

[1:39:37]" There were viewed it yeah I'm one I -- that -- this morning that the Rams Ferraro was unhappy with the fact that you know they'd be called success like that Patriots official I don't know I don't. Little. Well and and that that -- EI situation Vince Wilfork apparently. Apparently Vince Wilfork is meeting with commissioner. I don't I don't about now an early over the net you know why you talking about is if he. Is he meeting to discuss that one particular incident or the fact it over through three years now he's been time you know I mean I'm sure I'll come right and -- them but do we think he's going to you know I guess -- he gets spent in the -- talking about in the -- before and we talked for an answer to. Now. This -- about welcome Bob Matsui and all the division games -- yeah JR yeah it happens in the is that no chance to win it and it doesn't on the those groups about the game you know in. -- it's a matter of right now the whole appeal process sort comes down to you know which game to which they're read David's best -- you want to do you know. And you write it if if it does come down I've been."

[1:40:45]" It -- a little surprised at and it. At the -- that Vince Wilfork is is gaining because of the little -- little things that he's done and I was shot a lot of I was shocked the elbow I I -- I mean -- or even hear the whenever it being facetious now. -- think he's racked up a lot of penalty I realized that I but but a lot of it has -- a -- I think a lot of that though is is a byproduct of the position that he placement look at it he's the dirty position on the well okay by it he hobbled quarterback. And understand there are girls with -- going to at some point cooler heads have to prevail. He poked -- Jacobs and the guy he gave the three stooges. Yet the I. Kept it. And that you know and I think he's dirty player and he's done -- field. But that's that the greens that you did you -- with that in mind and it does seem like you feel sorry that it got a -- replica he has one of the penalties. --"

[1:41:45]" You hear his name come up more than a lot of others I think that situation you know. I don't watch yeah I'll watch you hear about try every every game -- do well it seems like you whose name are more often than others you know in these type of situation I think they're targeting him for reasons. Why is implement a lot of other guys know doesn't really you that in a lot of it's in negated another guy dating to. But at some point you just can't bonds everything he can't do -- here is -- hurt the team. -- but the thing is it worth it now now what it was a war that the Mac jay color and ahead. To get suspended for the whole game -- with whatever it wants whenever you have an analyst at unity and got this out of it's I play every right. We feel elderly guy knows what -- well why I guess I'm disappointed because it seems to me that he is a you know certainly a focal point with the Patriots trying to accomplish defensively he is a mainstay on the defensive line he's consistent. Pretty high level former. But because he play he resides down in the trenches and as just in the dirty position on the field and -- you grab guys are pushing and shoving evident. -- intention in doing all cut out yet and anything else you can think of going on down there don't be naive have you ever been in a rugby -- your bit in the middle of our -- players grow more than you know right. And you have ever you Christina both."

[1:43:06]" oh wow loud John I'm hot guy yeah yeah yeah -- I want our Regina looks like resort departed intelligent -- dunk it. I was never dirty as it is Michael Bryant. I don't know I don't have run the ball brought that element. You know or maybe it's a comedy Michael I don't know I don't a lot of radio -- younger units that are -- the company our. You know. All right John B lo and my first time I've written in the show but I writing and to both PFW in progress and the fantasy load them all -- wondering I -- Are out they were you know what I thought that perhaps I. We're like -- off the ground that's right."

[1:43:48]" Pretty regularly and have been listening to the show on podcast and sort of the season as a can't listen live. I didn't either match live as I was at Wembley. But I have seen highlights of the match and noticed a couple of things. Number I want everything to good there was pressure sacks and an interception as well as Cassel hitting all touchdown but I haven't picked Corey and that is. Randy Moss -- it -- minded I don't expect much from him after last year but the drop. He made the end zone will be something I would expect of a fifth receiver. He is the best receiver in the NFL should be making catches like."

[1:44:21]" That moderately one I thought that -- brown had an outstanding. He he had an exception he deflected a pass in the at a respectable and eager to the hole lake however perhaps acre a year. I don't want to go to uncle wanted I don't want but to a spot and at a couple years I've really Miller. A couple. A couple I'm -- Both -- gotta get this there is absolutely. It's it's contagious serve that's true swap. I'm I'm not a very not -- it becomes -- I don't know I don't try to brown had a solid game -- get -- to -- sort of -- in -- level and whatever his name is ground. Yes and make them carefully round F brown. I'm on the ball you got the end zone that -- that a good -- has a shot at brown the national if you -- This show is on the last middle -- it went look -- middle name is Ulysses. I don't know maybe in the hill is going. Like. That he had this argument -- an argument that we were all on board you just disagreement. About -- do. You get paid to make those plays to Moss in Ottawa the zone Brian yes the -- yeah just bought -- just about every now that was his that was is that both won it there were. You're more than one he touched on the with a with a lot of that the what I wanted to cut yet you know a lot of plays where you know even Champ Bailey goes obviously well you know -- Champ -- he's really good I agree he's good. But just as Champ Bailey is an elite corner Marie Moss is totally accurate with the football in. In every now and then you expect him to come down background you know maybe two guys got for the ball as a big puzzle in mid -- and hit the ground. And you know then you want more on the knowing that you with a guy basically what you always tip your cap to the guy. I knew the Yankees have that the get shut down by scrub all while he pitched well but you know you can't hit tonight. Review and every shutout ball hitting -- grab that -- guys and sometimes that happens every now and then Moss does come down. It down to what degree last year I -- point now I think like we earlier -- we set the bar so high because we did last year right. By -- Carl what kind a year you have in Whittier playing undermine -- playing. Normal -- the boycott the -- because right."

[1:46:41]" And combining that with the at least knew that I can remember Italy and Diego and yeah it's -- opt out there now mom with -- on -- good play isn't the ball in summer plays that maybe he has a little hard I -- I think this is extremely accurate the fact is that it just does not appear. That he's going hard enough after that it's almost like nonchalant. And -- it's an attention thing or what ever. But it. You don't see the intensity there and when you know what he can you know he can be dominant you -- when he nonchalant I think about how. How dominant he can't he can't should not. Every -- when he does put a little more effort into some of these absolutely one of those guys and make -- he. We will talk a little in the in the opening our. Mike about in -- in the demise of the -- the only other thing you know we'll listen at William and email here he is if you ever heard of chess boxing. Chatter that's all I was I think queen's song. As boxing's as you think you can easily make fun of it but it is too but it Kumble was one might think -- is just boxing is way better than -- and -- Who."

[1:47:48]" This -- on my side apparently but apparently you missed the PFW in progress Bryan where Matt from Oregon went our faithful listeners counts you know play. A good natured exhibition because I don't I don't like enemy in the US you know like crap. Now I think -- a box and I look it will want to come back here will have a the contents -- competition where. He can only grapple go the legs where I can actually strike in -- me. On which you can even pulled by that -- Plus he's like Byron would. For it and it's -- it on Jesus and be on the train like fifteen years is no way. I'm like Iraqi in -- you can't win you play to win the fight you play and not going to win it you know -- I do it holds -- they'd -- eighth picks."

[1:48:39]" They said apologize it was just an exhibition right that happened there right now. Now --"

[1:48:43]" Dale as guys you've covered most of my nit but here's a stretch. Finding a variation for the wide receiver screen that will burn the defenses for setting for sitting on their plight. I noticed the lesser teams can't defend this too will look good defenses like to take a player like. Goes back to last year when teams like -- Jazz were able to just jump on that -- leave the pats and apparently no options to exploit. Charging defensive backs and linebackers. In the parents should be able to get a tight end Al there Horry curling receiver route to force defenses to date back and we -- that space. Especially when the running backs are banged up pats can't run the ball so well. I'm not the stadium during the games you can tell me if you ever see them up that screen formation and then fake it and then go elsewhere while I guess you can do is."

[1:49:30]" You could everybody in the line pulled Owens' side and you can roll out. And then. They beat the throw and and off to somebody trying to reverse I don't know are you have to throw across your body to make something happen -- bootleg and it's difficult but. Can certainly be done addictive -- about the super balls you don't want to become too predictable Libya once reporting an offense where. Now everybody started -- and they're ready forward -- because any airline to deep passing game which has been a good that. That you know problem."

[1:49:59]" It's a great play and work and I and ultimately that's about it. And yeah it's pretty but I'll play -- all you know Josh mcdaniels basically said that week when you thought about Nomar missing and we before that he was not yet been you know trying to trying to get coaches trying to play him and mom and dad what you. Plea work that might want to run it doesn't work don't want to right. And you know the used to do beyond that title at the inquiry and the -- at tight end. Sort of a scream what they call that play. Where did that the tight end screen I think as the I don't know what it would only guys alternatives I don't know -- that number -- I don't know any terminology but what I think David running this out wide receivers or scream everywhere and Welker Gaffney. Off Wright and Moss now and I mean I don't know it's like come on -- well but."

[1:50:52]" I vaguely remember the yeah yeah Daniel Graham Greene yeah yeah -- That is frankly that is not that go to the tight end at all your adult that just by design. Well or is it because that you don't -- hurt them I mean we face him to go to we we -- David Thomas catch -- the one that he was had thrown to him. But I would argue that the does not -- the time they combined have thirteen catches -- 134 yards your pride and -- a few drop between them but they haven't been prone to more than one I'm now I would I think part of it is -- locking in and eyes -- And he's so reliant reliant on Welker and Moss may be that on the though that that's -- probably -- you can and you all too easy -- also Paul I won't say this has been my observation that they've held in particular Benjamin Watson. Back in pass blocking coverage because of the problems that -- on the on the line and David Thomas has been known as pretty good you know blocker as well. Perhaps more than as a receiver. Is quite possible that these guys by design have been held back a little bit from being in more of an integral part of the pass catching route in the off."

[1:51:56]" I think that's been a map out -- much question if needed to stay in the block and baker have that. Graham Kyle Brady type blocker tight end that has been essentially a six six opens -- and don't have putting themselves either. And it all -- not like one of these guys has proven you're right proven to be any -- that I got potential but we really haven't seen in a panic that you know him now even in times this year he dropped some balls knocked -- into the ball. Is it disappointing fifth year at least for three or four vomit in practice this could be the breakout -- years here he is so supremely gifted and talented. Athletically. As far as you know being a pass receiver and I just had to hasn't -- that way on and and -- combination of the fact that. He hasn't gotten the job done and they've needed his you know they -- that body is it as a Walker's -- UGU thinking that far and away to have. So make a deal for him and he said he wanted to be traded he really wasn't by the deadline but. What do you think happens in ours analogy Virginia release you mean as far as like releasing every means they option all you have to be offseason -- right and at least in the eyes. -- exploit that again. Yeah I mean you know it sounds like he's the kind of guy that you know it didn't seem like you just I rate at your -- if you think -- value left -- I think so for sure I think for sure I think I thought it was great news here. In week one -- in the -- impressive and I I think he I think he's had he's had. Relative to that team in whose throw him in the ball. I think he's had a pretty solid year I certainly think he's got a few more years that the DB great addition to a lot of teams that either you don't need that you know they're trying to incorporate are receiving tight and -- or they just -- offensive side you know veterans. You know offensively I don't know -- I think he definitely value now he did the thing is in the NFL on you know teams can rebound recover really quick so maybe he -- and and in like organization -- up that hill -- we're either going Witter headed in the offseason but. I'm don't I'm sure like anyone else he wants that he he probably had that inkling during trading deadline time recently where. And an opportunity here on on -- winning team and and that price affected him a little bit and now he's right come to terms that are going to be here the rest of the season. And then you know -- situation afterwards but. I don't know question I think he'll still in that upper echelon of items on the way to choose to get unit picked below did you have one other than what we discussed you know I. Cornerback is what stands out mostly. You know. I just think that guys. They didn't get the job done and it's not like this week -- he tore a hole is a good veteran receiver Lebanon decline. Donnie Avery is emerging with -- by the way I do like -- a guy like algebra -- he's got that the -- to him you know that. I think it's one of those. You know qualities really hard to define about receiver but I just think in this game you know if Jackson doesn't play he probably figured they're going to test wise -- go deep in the -- could be eighties didn't get the job on it was disappointing early on because. On you in these guys just it it wasn't like in some case -- the Patriots got absolutely be Boris. And in some cases they were there and they tackle each other I mean like they'll -- and I caught one time and it happened twice I just thought it was a it was a it was not a very pretty yet situation up their quarterback. I'm -- that would surely be number one and got you know I don't know I think that they made strides as far as. Rushing the passer and a deal on came update Seymour is well on and you got a lot -- Faulk was able to do on the corner that would be number one for me. The played cornerback the you know inability to. The recognizing. Really rebound until very end of the game on and the and the deeply and as long as. Until the Patriots find a way to consistently cover the deep ball. On you know. Go to people on the team -- Edwards is going to go deep on imports are going to go deep on the team. I don't see I don't one that's going to stop unless and until the Patriots showed they can stop -- upper deck."