PFW in Progress - 11/4/2008

[3:13] ..." the in the red it was executed perfectly intelligent about it. That Billy Miller -- round and so I understand I agree that. It's not the most devastating loss in the world and get blown off"...

[4:36] ..." it was nice that we foul -- not getting emails wondering what Matt Cassel doing. We did get an email Miller high highly critical of the coaching staff and and the decisions that -- going to"...

[16:38] ..." out of point no matter what. That's where you need a timeout. Matt Cassel. They call timeout he got to give them don't need a person he'll start there but knowing that knowing that have already"...

[44:40] ..." yeah I don't hurt my. Role sooner or later an economic. Plus Kerry Collins drew up for. And I don't think that deepened reveal the -- in the way they have undefeated but that. You can"...

[55:12] ..." trailing in the fourth quarter 1614. Of being tied at fifteen makes Adam Vinatieri is one field goal a completely different -- That score put a lot more pressure on that attempt. Maybe the Colts don't even try maybe they putt because they're worried about field -- I don't know what happened. I agree with everything Apatow and -- that's -- a field goal and Adam Vinatieri -- last --"...

[1:13:47] ..." Outfielder -- he could've punched. I LI think about that at all Matt Cassel start and a -- pretty good to he's got a little more presently Derek he'll -- so well today is like I"...

[1:52:26] ..." about it now. -- left behind yeah I mean I'm -- the Matt Cassel this group where they haven't taken the training wheels off -- not good enough DTV. Perhaps -- the radio I think the"...

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[1:39]" I thought the progress we're all here they've Aaron. The good day now. It's Election Day here in the United States of America and even if you don't live in the American girls show they'll big day. So -- lead off with that but we're here to talk about the Patriots. In I think. A maddening. -- and I don't mean. On that I need. Emotionally that -- In we're going to talk about that today web radio a page -- dot com email address web radio eight dot com opponent Bible it five point three inquiry to a guy. The good news. Well the bad news is that the Patriots lost the game okay that's the bad the good news is I think it's finally realized probably about right okay. He was great."

[2:30]" How he could even be on the list of any about the top ten any. Any list of the problems on I thought you know."

[2:39]" Getting better -- an email I think last week technique technical you know statistically had a bad game I think this week. Was just. I thought it was. -- that game. I think I I think you know I think they get -- I think the game plan was was perfect you know of this game going to get the call on the road expert team you know they were going to be fired up and -- play it was great I think he executed it perfectly. But I think you know 23 situations and they play because. Situations ruling with a gal -- what the in the red it was executed perfectly intelligent about it. That Billy Miller -- round and so I understand I agree that. It's not the most devastating loss in the world and get blown off populated. Or that but it still frustrating at a lot of other line. They went one or in the red zone and have to change they had the fire power. And sometimes you played teams where you can't leave points on the feel like. -- you convert one of the field goal and that's a whole different game you know but. Beyond that I think that you know he played well. You know a lot of critics -- on the coaching. The coaching staff is getting pointed at a much -- if that there you know I think. I think -- I think -- think they'd get put -- situation that kind of like catch 22 but they we didn't react well. Well. We usually I want to break down though we've -- out for years about how they're the most prepared team and every situation they handle better than anyone's so. When they don't handle those situations well we need to say they didn't handle like we need to look at those situations. What are your -- you're in in and really talk about it you know in analyzed because I think that's it I didn't think it'll hurt him at least two ago."

[4:31]" I want to get to that and I also want to dress that and we have you you mentioned that it was nice that we foul -- not getting emails wondering what Matt Cassel doing. We did get an email Miller high highly critical of the coaching staff and and the decisions that -- going to talk about. I want to stress that we don't know I mean I I think there was some things that could have been handled better I think we all agree and that but we're also talking off the different before we came down here. And I think Bill Belichick in his preparation staff and whatnot you know. Oh oh without question right now the best in football -- Just because we were and that they might have been some things that could have been done differently that doesn't mean that would go with the fans -- yeah."

[5:09]" Absolutely -- that really kind of opened up the tee and I do though they and different Hart I know I don't -- Again I I I think we need to look at one of these situations and talk about them in depth because. I don't think he can lump the whole game in eight it was a poorly coached I think. Let's start with the preparation that -- I think that the perfect game plan for the."

[5:32]" It was a good game plan not ready to actually perfect I'd I'd like what a lot of what they did in terms of that to pound away with the running game and actuality did -- control the clock as you know that you're going to have a hard time on Manning down and you're right -- had a hard time on Manning out. So they wanted to make sure they controlled the clock and they did a very good job of that might. With Indianapolis secondary dig up even worse and the Patriots was that was a public belief not. Everybody was worried about how the Patriot -- and it was going to respond Indy came out with worst secondary are now in the Patriots did and really they took one shot. The whole game to really exploit that and I I thought that was little financial. Very good game plan I'm not ready as a perfect tactic they would have. -- and a little bit more Randy Moss. And I don't hit it would double and a -- they always problem they always need the help on Randy Moss. I think they need to try to make a play with a group although because even though the Colts played a lot of zone on Sunday at times to the toaster receivers to get open at the trouble but I can't. In other words if you protect well enough and long enough somebody is eventually going to get open back if you have good enough receivers yet that the chances -- what those guys do their work back -- there's this thing well screw it they're playing zone we got to run --"

[6:42]" But I think that the -- the cope with I think the anyway but focus on the electrical definitely not where you were picked for right reason but I think both teams. The -- figured this going to come down to couple plays. Yeah we like it -- shots but I. You know -- Don't -- we know what's going to have a you know per -- or better it's worked well you know we don't want to wait to play because we need it. And the drive and we can't have a play that -- now. You know we have to have positive plays on every down. I think that was their thinking. You know and it that's what made that. The gap he dropped so bad because building up to that all game packing packing packing. Finally the guy and a lot of -- wide open because they apply it up. And ball I mean that would change the game by release date on what it out -- a game."

[7:37]" yeah. Any help that way because he was very drop votes. But the way practice nobody manned up he and I dropped -- not make an excuse me I respect guys that it is not all guys. Part of their life to answer questions at making taking cheap I'd say it was my ball right. I mean you have to give him there and I had to Eric. Ready Cottam I have gained more respect for this team this year that I think I've ever had in the past because I think they've handled themselves very well through. It -- the blowout. Dropped balls penalties pretty much everyone who's had those types of opportunities to screw up and then man up this year has done that and I don't think we're both from the Patriot in the past the I've gained a lot of respect for the I don't know I. Know. I disagree I in the modest in the hour on the line get their -- handed to -- and then not talk that exact this year guys that have had their helmets and don't have talked. Have said I screwed up we lost I got one -- that they don't talk time in San Diego was Deltha O'Neal did it but even he. Didn't like every person -- up to a -- talked and he just gave them like that. -- tonight kinda. Cry if I talk basically space you know really I just don't have in the right now talk that he did in a way that. You didn't think he was helping you felt he was not emotionally prepared to defend himself at that yeah nothing like the Miami. In the hole -- left the locker amendment or race anyway and he goes in that short press conference -- Indianapolis game when he. Got red -- I don't laugh and I respect that because it hasn't been any season I don't think it'll be moved toward the way Fred -- Talked about that play with -- it is important it is what it is like dropped an easy touchdown pass but they worked so hard I thought all night. At that situation."

[9:29]" I mean what I tonight Joba to the build up and do the buildup and -- with it. Gaffney usually makes big plays you never get the joke that was all in -- that but he does -- a little bit serious -- that are limited opportunities but like your every time Brady went to moment he's situationally again I thought for a touchdown right. Right game right. That's what I get motivated even more said that he had. Count me at times in games and make a couple plays and I -- he -- I've done a good job and that's that department on the and a it was -- able to look I don't think that anyone on the team or any fans should be like. Japanese upon Cottam. Okay. It happened after they've done it happens which you do on the team when those critical time com guys make him play -- you know kind of different. -- uncharted territory -- You know we kind of have to take the good with the bad there but it was frustrating the other play or we get -- the coaching the other player on the field with Dave Thomas. Penalty now. I ought to play. I would say that you know. I can hear the way I don't know when the was going on but. You know from what I -- him what people that work. You know Patriots that yet -- hit it come after the -- though there were no guys around. You know that that heard the whistle. Say that well. How much effort was well so it was probably a good call."

[10:58]" And back up in -- point out how they've been comfortable this year. At a politics and aqua and I -- and won it all that way and you know at the other thing is. -- you that you could hear the whistle but I have to -- little ball script this morning. The -- is a relevant because this is my role that I want called in this league unnecessary roughness and the rough is unnecessary. And the late Paul described to me. In terms of the art history now being down. In terms of the defender letting up a blind side hit defend everything was unnecessary about it he was barely even looking at this understanding relaxed. And he. I wasn't -- in the back but he signaled it was common that. And that's about it failed on three levels like it -- after it was because. We Dallas was down on the ground for there were too many guys in Iraq our significant amount I have not alone and I first aren't alive I didn't know what was going on and it went on the first replay -- the only got home I kind of thought. On a sticky -- immediate them but it was right as he went down -- yesterday. -- FL network in a different look any yen. Kinda showed he was clearly down for awhile and at this was just a -- school coaches tell you don't have it around right in football."

[12:19]" That's where you get. Oh oh. I can't complain about that that was a dumb move and it hurt them. -- heard of me more because they're having timeouts after that ride and now we get in do. The situation football in what happened with the time. While they wait -- it challenges are apt to go for an extra five yards with Altman on your which I just don't think it was necessary my first impression there was anything like that it was a first down play. It'll -- by person you know now trust -- out down here where you know you can say well that was a bad. Plays to -- why take the risk. But the question we have to have is what if they thought. There was no that it was so obvious that the with twelve men they were obviously wrong. Somebody somebody's thought it was obvious. Nobody told Belichick. And I don't call coming off the field was the eleventh that was and it -- their ten minute -- two guys coming off the field that problem the promise they saw the second I'd assumed he was the right he was even if it's Iraq's going to play the play with ten guys right field. -- in OI. Think I."

[13:30]" Saw a couple of examples with football privacy they called timeout that the time they called in the fourth and one. And that play where it just shows sort of a lack of trust in the offense I think even if -- were fourth and one sort of fourth and inches. You're -- that Eddie eagle that every time the Tom Brady's fourth and one sneak in position yeah when he when he finals what can one -- sort of call for the time magazine did it again I thought that."

[13:52]" The -- Of those two because. First Crosby talked about it is not the here. We bill last measurements over the years on plays that weren't even close so for him I felt more thought he always government anything that's anywhere near close. And he and do that and then. To run out on the field that you felt very. On controlled helter skelter all over the place as did the fourth and fifteen later when they didn't have the timeout and sort of forced into that situation well as -- earlier. When they had the -- you're getting -- recently. To go for right. What we think we need to -- celebrate it. Hello integrated it at that they should go on -- ED immediately that they should be -- it talked about as McNamee did in the week that don't work. Oh I'm. I agree that it was worth much lately which -- The measurement. You. Much to call time out. The cut that makes me he thought it was what pitches when he actually aren't lined up it was more like what yard and it -- it was legit yeah. He got the quarterback might be too far and calls time out. I have no problem -- to another player I I can't believe after I'm out you know you'd on the field that might mean it was strange and as you guys pointed out. If Brady was there is no doubt in my mind those rat but it has not that they so that's why the interest of the -- and I think. The times they've they've used their Quebec the that in 34 yards. I don't yards long and it looked like Cassel got like I think. And even look -- that we call right at the line. Early in the -- that this can happen right and always won but that happens that -- Vietnamese an act that if you have one of those to burn is not going to -- to a right on right that we beat I have no problem -- in the time out that's a critical. Now what people like ticket. -- timeout and -- caught that that was United are amounts were not that he -- to. Let that happen are usually like its appeal of of the of the of Herm Edwards one of these coaches like make an effort getting caught kinda confused not knowing what's going on rather than he wanted to call timeout."

[16:12]" If my head coach in the league whatever. My quarterback or because of whatever -- early in the in the half I have to call a timeout. Okay that. May be worried OK now I've blown a timeout. In in early in the half I have one last. To meet that put more weight on. That to me that's the key not the with a one. Okay because you're in the red and you got to come out of point no matter what. That's where you need a timeout. Matt Cassel. They call timeout he got to give them don't need a person he'll start there but knowing that knowing that have already had that time now that I've lost. I gotta look at that challenge a first down I'm going to pick up five yards to truly twelve men on the field. It is okay Ernie -- whoever you're telling me. But the ref didn't he hit I don't we want to arrest they threw the flat the flat and -- pick it up they saw the exact same thing. I needed but then they realized wait ten guys quietly in the guy that was right off. A lot to be on the field and they even over ruled that -- why bother. Why bother accurate idea what you're -- started they must've been 100 and we're going to get a head."

[17:27]" You know good point. Out that. -- kind of got them. -- that was actually at the eleventh off we thought it was too many men and I think the way in the back the clock. One of those guys aren't players have come up that's not not topic right. The guys I was I don't care the two guys running off by all that right yeah -- guys are that it is a guy responsible for personal -- up at. Only had to. Back out it was that didn't get off at the snap he was the eleventh and that's okay. Told bill are. I don't know I don't know I'm glad -- went out whether explanation do you get when you. Both Colts they announced he challenged the play rep for -- right -- you know as it does not want to know why does -- Michael hill what that white and bill and -- to him. It was actually only and on the right. Well anyway any -- I mean he might not have though because that's kind of leading the witness that's what I may have just said they did not have too many men on the field right. Like he doesn't and I -- I have to tell you guys might be right but I I would think that the right yes -- out of the lack it was topic at -- guys up the -- but actually the I have to think let you know and I think I didn't -- I'll trust the guys. While the water and the 12 one yet in a challenge for -- right yeah then everything. Either the making -- in -- carefully you'd timeout that especially you've had -- timeout bicycle the that was. The -- up. They're going to need time later. -- because I mean he made decisions based on the low possession game yeah everything's going to be an excellent yeah certainly I know that you were going to need. Your timeout and everything in a tight ballgame for a couple plays if so I mean I don't -- where it was worth. Taking that type of race or idea where it's -- on the fourth and -- scene -- And and on the ensuing possession at 8 o'clock. The ball -- in -- field. We should talk about a -- a coaching maneuvers that would the fifteen -- the -- the ones and run out the offense run off. And the offense run back out you don't anytime out you want to go for. And now you're rushing into the biggest play that well I think that the hard not to -- a couple of you have the perfect like all night there was a lot in going on with match there was a lot of you know. Running the line trying to get a playoff. Article to get the right now out there was another one of the way where. You know go you know I don't think they were trying to -- on my team out there -- and the often thought they were coming off until bill that now -- going or and then scramble -- the play clock was they barely -- a -- optimistic the game and try to go for fourth and wanting -- like yeah that is -- you know him but I mean there -- tickets. -- really play on -- but there's. Everything else we it is an excuse for the fourth at one okay -- caught you know he could spot. The challenge -- my -- this one all there is no reason on third down. For the people -- not know what's going on for the head yet to go to Cassel were -- sport we don't get it. For -- and we're not punting bill going for too late in the game whatever. Have all that players and on and off. It happened to the high school football -- front where Dallas special teams or is Ellen. You know punt team -- hundred -- so you can question the -- supple as 13. Applicant. You don't doubt that critical of the coaching to meet a major. There's no -- and America have agreed to -- run out -- non die when he wants to go with that -- all -- tackle -- it all that's a bad call -- now -- 4. Observation where you think that actually passed for. Of -- down at thirty what passes for but. It was a stories -- yesterday remember. Broke out 38% of the Rose. -- maybe that. Were at war -- I'm on a screen and the team that had no no personal peca and it is up the street Tuesday and in this league everybody tribe -- the -- heard -- I -- the Patriots here's. Everett the opposition's -- they had to safety. Two guys over the top in -- Miami. And I. I think the biggest thing is. Can turn the call football of those talks about it -- passes and bombs. Intermediate passing game. What happened to play every thirty yards. On the them a complete that. I think those are what Anita can't pass any different than they did in -- and I think castles in the right -- fifteen yards out in cut -- down as the and I understood the game plan that chopped a mosque every. I thought that."

[22:58]" That game if they agree now the way to a critical that game would've gone. I think the game plan probably it was about as close to perfection. The two things that would draw you back IR. The red zone and when you took the shot -- and I think that you know not game changes meant but I think -- when you played that close the match. You put yourself in the position we make the comment -- game. I didn't think -- fans made more cancel please -- whole game yet you look up. In 1850. Not a lot of relatives -- that we're taking all the underneath it wasn't any meaning didn't have a ball down you'll like -- that's something yard pass with his a game plan to more because he's checking into those lines July. I know it conventional wisdom dictated that nickel Patriots head nickel so we try to want a while -- open in 85 yards here. But it was painfully apparent to Indianapolis early in that game. Seymour Wilfork and Warren was stopping the run by well. You know all the that we heard about the Indianapolis that I've been banged up -- ineffective we saw one on on on opening night. Because -- three guys. Pretty much with Mayo. Shot. Joseph Addai. He averaged one point nine. At that point to let it carry right for Joseph Addai net."

[24:25]" I. He was going to give a lot of he had like I tackled -- are able to. A couple of outlets -- run Guyton is kind of the guy that's part of that -- you're attacking games and Alex and he had five or six tackles and he made a couple plays. And I think Manning does all into that. A little too often forget he's the -- the greatest quarterback of his generation or one of the two equipment generation. And -- into football want to one -- on the field we have to run all they get two safeties deep by going to throw underneath. He did a member of the playoff game here we never threw the ball downfield once because they had all the guys dropping into coverage. -- just say. I'm halting quarterback with a hall fame receiver sometimes we just need to make a couple plays and he falls back on the rule rules say. Dump it off the rule they hand it off of work -- you get open. And you made the point spread about it 11 -- shot because in a game like that was top. And it it was going to come Donald possession -- any zero they don't want to take a chance that they couldn't completed his second and on whatever. While I thought the game only and the opposite direction for Indy. You run the ball and risk coming up with a hero especially how many times -- run the ball I have three top. On third would punted three times all night. And you're on the you know to would have came on failed third down runs and the have a failed third down run at a Terry's fifty yard field are -- themselves out themselves consistently all night because they didn't really. That I."

[25:59]" Well right now Chris with a CIA and Chris I don't. You were on announcements. And radio down here Chris break it down."

[26:08]" Nigeria. I don't know I -- was very frustrating but. Obviously the play that is equity plan like that it is so very little room for error. And articulate apparently Gaffney played you know -- that they sent an opponent neat what kind of took sharp etiquette -- and hit. I'll -- right. But that actually you know. Money going to the -- going to that sarcastically great and that but I thought -- made a good point not telecast and and we said. You know Tom Brady takes what he wants when he goes out there. In you know the -- leading Cleveland it was that it was set up. Patriots -- us. Just take what Indianapolis gave them. An Alice I would doubt but I just think that they -- took a couple more shots especially even near the goal line. You know -- just you know that he Tomas in the end zone. And haven't -- that. I don't know what you guys thought about that they were there any opportunity -- you know I mean obviously going to get that he's double practically -- But I just -- those opportunities that maybe they couldn't they couldn't stick and a took all of them and they -- especially the first half and -- even hit a ball onto Omaha I'm also the first several --"

[27:27]" I don't know they'd you know I agree I think that's how it is it is over eight years like Brady has so that he can do whatever it wants but I think through eight games he's earned the right. To have the reins loosened up into training wheels and make some plays has he hasn't made stupid throws that's what you're trying to avoid -- him turning the ball over in. Starting to feel like he's not going to do that he's pretty comfortable back there and he's not -- just throw to a safety."

[27:51]" Knowledge not Roanoke and controlled across his body you'll always -- in -- leak did typical point is the other day in the jet game against Buffalo. Either BC. The pats popped through he'd get pressure on the clock Beattie told rocketed back like two that it covered in the -- that backcourt like them yet requesting all of."