Patriots Playbook - 11/12/2008

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[0:40]" All right welcome the Patriots playbook on the guest host Mike currently with the takeover -- part it is. Eric you know this is an extension at PFW in progress we've seen two damn post it -- the last two hours. -- used to it and get enough we don't go away I have no idea what the hell gonna talk about for an hour because we just -- every little tired topic. Chick fillet particularized cripples that we have -- different for me at the end coming up and don't you. -- wouldn't do anything on for an hour. We can -- the music. Q while. -- I I just yet I know I mean request and now we go back again. The long a song you know it is it's that have. In any real low at an early filmed on a putt from two minutes I don't eat all over the long then but I don't have that much today. But I am elated authors in America on line not to the Niedermayer Prado is fighting for."

[1:39]" Which is that the dollar is the downtown Providence I'm so proud of -- guys that are available the only two people the world according Andy -- He's a great guy like authenticated ignorant idiot anyway. While there -- and I'm glad -- on our site yet if you win the next two. Author Erica yeah. It is does he really because you'd be the first rally in the world champion beneath that yeah the big deal -- ago. I'm a big -- you've heard. In the ninety's early ninety's -- New. Hampshire. Who cares -- New Hampshire or violence and -- long time but it's a small they. Are probably used to be a pretty good Mecca box Rocky Marciano fought you know at times. And good graduates and good but c'mon Providence he should years injuries before beating periods of street before -- later on this I'm -- needed them. Is on edge on them and you know Fred Kirsch a lot of pressure you know I'll want to completely bomb like -- did yesterday we completely bomb that and I value or I -- I did no such. -- I guess if you are the fruit before it was. You were there and ship old and you get a Titanic -- I heard the debate Psycho with the talent around and I use that are closely related it. You know so picked up considerably in the second -- In terms of anger in -- the phone. Yeah anger that opened a one anger people like anger people respond to me why they don't play means so it's great so it works out well the way. I kind of generate some. Talking point of launching -- well. You -- yours yours does. Sending it here the broadcast sports. Notes -- my given an inch here broadcast -- channel launching pads today and time today. I think there is an an you'd think Brett Favre to throw it and he's going to. I'll break his ankle and throw pass between his way and all the update you at this the only place that pigeonholed them as in this at this point in his career I expect that out of him more than I expect him to have a solid. Game only the -- at -- was I mean come on that that was a fluke and you know. Get a game -- a fluke but isn't playing well not a -- he had a pretty video -- you know he had an okay year last year which. In the okay okay here in the context of the three or four years prior to that. Was it was a miracle because he was I gonna make it better as he can't -- by comparison better than okay. I was noticing a trend with him in the last five or so years he has it is his skills have diminished. --"

[4:20]" Question it goes diminish any -- or erratic 72 years old. And I mean you gotta give them credit for coming -- that aren't taken into the end I don't you know granted he gave the end -- championship away in overtime the biggest games he had last year he played our -- 100% correct and older -- this is a bit. So I don't expect him to have that England -- a different team and eat as I had this team personnel around him and I think. I think they've made more a commitment to run the football in Green -- certainly did last year is going to trying grant life. -- Jones going to work or last week big big game against Seattle they'll Lewis -- Sunday Hoya and I think -- got very big game against China that it and while. Does he could barely beat him by a touchdown only -- Take anything from that -- victory they beat him by 44 point started getting him the -- the biggest. When margin in Jets this tree by her which really surprised me and a that only that a surprise because I always think that every team beat somebody by 55 at some point in the league buried it and not that big margin of -- I can think. But you know I think they've made more of a commitment to run the football and try to cut down on our day and when he's at a position where its ball control offense and it cut the lead. He's not going to do as many stupid thing now you're theory of the over under on to pick he said he article over I think we'll have upper decks. But I think. He'll be eating because if he does. -- because it's the fourth quarter to merit goat he's -- in the Balkans it down by twenty non not I'm and that they'll happen in the second or like the over the course over the majority of the -- and normal spot. -- kind of pass rush plan they have for him now I don't know can you're really. And the dogs at the Brett Favre you everything he can throw him I think this stretch last couple weeks Eric. Is more beneficial at your front three do all the work -- with -- on and that's why it certainly there'll first round pick -- that's what they get paid to do. Okay and not just setting the tone of the line of scrimmage but not -- there -- to be into Award has had two big games are grown now I think he's making a lot of plays. Seven tackles I think on Sunday against Buffalo in the -- well yeah. And Seymour had another team I had another taxi to the guys make plays. And they're keeping everything in front of him and I dropped everybody else -- eight men back there you you have to like 82 linebackers three linebackers nickel. By the back. Playing deep take away everything deep keep everything in front and that's the way I think you have to be far too."

[6:51]" And we've been seeing a lot more lately of Mayo dropping back into pass coverage although he did get a very close the second Trent Edwards in that game. This past Sunday. So it was good to see him get a little bit of a pass rush -- but he's been playing a little bit more back yet lately and I think that. Plays into what you're Duke which -- thing Mike about. Send a three. That's their job. Maybe bring everybody back a little bit and then in spots pick your spots when you won it when you want to hit Favre or whoever the quarterback is where they're playing that week. With the blitz and I think that's that worked out for them and again you know as we've seen -- and I think he's acquitted himself pretty well and Pasco."

[7:32]" The obvious spots and the dog would be 33. And fourth in Italy can do that. Or even that -- to make plays on first and second down which is where the front three comes. In off the Jones on person and you up for a loss three. Nigerian business you have an opportunity at some point in the series to go after our. And need for it to the -- second and five if it's third and two. You know -- the -- them ten times that you think is going to happen. He's a ten pound McKnight. And that -- it and mystery. By the we're breaking news Joe Madden and Aleman the surprise -- L manager of the year I think Joe man's life to a -- it is. I think Baldelli played enough in the post season every time Baldelli played -- game tying homer in the clinching game at a time Baldelli -- It putting Gabe Gross Gabe Gross up that everything we got into it and you'll grow. Could Enron and -- couldn't field couldn't hit. The third -- guy down only that but the -- on play. Hopefully he'll learn and they you know at that that's a deserving Award him. -- and they did a great job this year they beat the Red Sox can't produce them and that it authority -- knows it is that was you know. Again it's totally. Open or are we four rings to. Are you know winning 81 games take it into the playoffs. And again wiped out yet I'm all right this -- to mention the there's that anger we talked about opposition has. I'm glad. A lot of different -- at the evil we've lived the last eight years among Yankee fans and management of the bullpen all the crap that he does in game. And he -- scratching at -- They could beat the Phillies on opens and the Dodgers while. Probably 95. Now. There that Torre got there in there with a well then. I see -- do it yet they were they where they -- David missing until they what they were missing was created for an RBI man of our generation and Manny Ramirez. It was honoring before they trade Ramirez. Well that's you know that is. -- it MLB -- dot com. We cover all we -- everything in my thoughts and NBA. Yeah I don't know boxing the New York and baker bunkers -- blockers they're tough -- I think Gary Williams by the way. Yeah did you -- we didn't play. Tony Parker -- longer area there yeah in play in -- a -- parents -- I don't know normally you know what. Able crap from the -- there there. -- initially. -- isn't there right but nowadays there's a lousy that it cleaners and they'll. Football game on there on the you know pretty good yeah I'm. -- on -- I mean first game of the year and he's very well I go back lap one in this one and when the three big games the AFC's."

[10:31]" plan at all. Back to back to back and first place is on the line it was on the line last week they did their job going to be on the line this week. I think they're going to do the job next week in Miami is going to be a very talent won because they get their their butt handed to them by Miami the first time -- now they're going on there but. I don't expect him to get fooled by that while camping again. Time because other teams have tried it on them in spot. And then. And they've been able to snuff in rated snuff it out and an obvious in Miami team that runs that the best -- a personal thing introduce it. But I don't think they're going to get fooled by it again."

[11:05]" They're doing it still working on the green and had a couple we -- quiet. And then last week we talked -- a little bit on the last you know but at the the wildcats Ronnie Brown handoff to Ricky Williams and had a flea flicker who threw the pass of the flea flicker Pennington okay court. Under the threat right owning a -- with a hand off to my it was either way desert but they have eight tossed it back the -- in the Indian head. The statue of liberty play or something really. Not always Colorado really got to bring it back the fumble or move. The fumble or -- nicely but probably for the between -- play. But I think yet. Other teams have copied it -- really if he's into it with you that this is a copycat league season. Kansas Federer on the -- And ovals halting the Giants haven't tried it yet thank god does it need to resort to giving him pump people. But I think the teams that aren't as good. Are trying to do -- in the -- you can -- going to try something went out."

[12:11]" I mean if it worked so well for Miami and if you have the personality -- can do want to have another element that teams have to prepare for. I guess but it's not every in the they're not properly no urine that brought you need to -- they endure properly Indy. Maryland I I want to ask bill about that next week actually when when I was colon got back in the -- that's me the plate pretty up as an accident two option. Planes that are three option play his ball was either going to throw the ball orders in front of the himself and most just Braylon himself. You put another back behind there now you think art could be fake it that you know could be handed off Greek -- and -- is going to throw it Andromeda himself. Yeah you definitely need a personal to do and you know if Morris is back or even if you put beat BJ GE as he's calling himself now. He enjoyed Reggie JG well Lincoln and Jarvis Green Ellis do a lot of letters spell then he shortened up or others."

[13:10]" Whatever doric you know I he's -- complementary back -- you had to have to have an academic the lockout worked it's going to be because otherwise the Blazers on him blown up which it did against the Colts game and it wasn't a critical play that. Cost me out of play calls in the game but. There they try to -- and the baggage -- a little bit in and pull a rabbit out of a hat and it didn't work out so well but. You're right I -- it's it. Worthwhile to give it a shot at."

[13:35]" Andy you know reminds me of wide. Eyes that say this. Years ago was I didn't understand why -- and goal line situations pro teams didn't have. A small package of plays that were options. You know like run the option right here we have two backs in there of the quarterback. Take that take the pitching or not every quarterback good running quarterback thing but if you have that person -- like like like the Jets for a have a Brad Smith. Right right you get -- a goal line situation a goal to go situation one. Take out your normal quarterback put brad Smith and there have a couple of running backs and you've got an option. And you know not to have pro offense go back to the option because I hated the option as as a as a base offense but when you're a short yardage situation why not."

[14:21]" Yes I guess my thing is that when you have formation it it. Kind of predictable -- it like you know it's not. All teams and brought -- who you know again. -- I don't know medium to being naive but he Ronnie Brown line up behind I don't think there comes off yet. And it works every time. -- like you said. A lot of good running quarterback -- league plus the quarterback gets -- not -- out of money option play. These are more times than not he's got a hit at that a -- last minute you get creamed. And I think it is our risk it is so protective of quarterback lead -- what you guys taken. Why -- ten more hit per -- is already got a week."

[15:03]" Well that's why I'm driving battle everything -- you and you take your normal quarterback out there and put. A wide receiver who used to play quarterback or or running back who can who can run the play or backup quarterback who has some experience doing that somebody on the team. Has had experience running an option whether it was in college and high school. You've got to have somebody on your team who is capable of doing that every team has won yet your your soul is saying it's just the package of players not not an entire offense is all you're doing here obviously sure who Sammy Morris actually told me he was a quarterback in high and high school. So I don't know if it was an option quarter what it's like guys like as -- cornerback will do that but a lot of wide receivers that you write good athletes but. We're going to be pro level quarterback to use their beat for the position Drew Bennett of Tennessee or was he was St. Louis now -- where he was a quarterback do you -- I do feel like -- is easily on them like I leading up there my ticket. And not -- to dollar."

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[16:07]" awake and I carry that it is it W progress this if you look at it the out and played a lot out there like. But once in a blue moon thing you know Miami is proved otherwise. But I want to hit when I -- I want to you have no idea coming not aware thinking. I got a hundred at some point will be ready for I wanted to completely not know and that's what made the week three victory for the for the Dolphins though. I guess if you're in Miami and that's fine as they've -- had no clue I was going. They were not eat at home on the -- reckon that well I really yeah I I'm when they were expecting now they are. Right and now so is everybody else that plays Miami -- a degree the whole league. Playing anybody is thinking okay this may try to copy that is that if it sort of the values it. But they want to do I get into the working at look at doing what you said Rick Ewing scored that fifty or -- yeah -- proven that theory wrong that you can't do it 8000 times a year and have work as."

[17:08]" Unless they're doing it work unless they're doing it where. At the very last second they're getting into that formation -- Pennington runs outs of the sideline. And they don't have the personnel on defense to combat it may be their doing it. You know since they've -- settle -- kind of play it certainly is -- the -- the -- that we -- right and -- to -- the -- run -- route to -- I mean it's an -- to -- on offense -- not automatically. -- defend when -- yeah you're -- as a -- is definitely wrong place on -- there -- both Indian and somebody -- I don't think it's okay. Because if you leave him alone you're going to throw the ball -- modestly even if the only -- 1015 yards that. Probably going to be enough for the first down I wonder -- every time -- you know third and twenty."

[17:59]" Yes how can. -- wouldn't even going to do based on their overall in other words. You Matt Cassel lineup why do you think there's no way this -- him the ball here. We can narrow it down wanting they're not going to do in this crazy. You know they can't afford another injury accord great. If you're reporting public you know what. -- put a body on cap a little but. You know my quarrel cutback -- when he runs he did not going to throw the ball I just wonder if you get back in the opportunity to defend everything when they -- lined up. What is -- you think of them ever thrown at the spot that."

[18:35]" say that if you run it enough times. And don't throw it to cast right you increase the likelihood that germs are going to throw it to Cassel because teams are going to get into -- all the to a sent security a heck of -- I think that it's -- Garcia and -- and you got your corner looking into the backfield instead of focusing on the quarterback whose line of a wide receiver and all of a sudden. Perfect example in 2001 when Miami came to new England and played the Patriots Brady was starting. And he did that the little fake. Snap and it went a -- he went over to his right side Brady did a little. Girl went out to the far side and -- turnaround and threw it across the field. Brady caught it for like a twenty yard gain downfield nobody thought coming."

[19:19]" You know is the animal who you are I don't. Good you're right football. And yet you like -- raising the new coach there I play -- Isn't dead in a group pretty deep in about ten years that you are phenomenal believe to be out there are caused by what -- quickly by the way. You you may recognize -- steeler. It was through the goal that I don't know he Floyd Keith is the head of the black coaches -- Asian. Okay you'll in my TV with a car ever evolving black coaches and he beat me in and have little -- whatever yeah but he was the right coach and me and we get on and they -- bad. And it has -- weird dad calls. And I question them after game on me working for the new paper you know the besides -- guy and lowly eighth hole you know punk reporter. And Al Blake you know they have like a third it was the funniest. They went for the fourth down play oval near midfield before -- act like fourth and fifteen what I try to getting keep the chains moving and -- off the clock -- look at plate. Blowing out. The team takes over complete to pass to build locally and to totally awful. Asked after the game if you can they're called another plate is that -- Michael we get money. Really with me and it after the press conference that really -- play protocol. One might would you call. Because. Well he's human like I I would throw the ball up. What -- say that Ellis is all we were in the red zone earlier in the game we threw and got picked off meant what your quarterback can throw on and that's also in the red zone and that's in the red illusion. Eric -- is he is the point where he knew he was on the way out uses pretty much shooting -- everybody at that point. But might have a buddy of mine who played football. On it Damon -- You can who aren't as equals is that good what are your regular high we always -- the radio -- the throw the -- David Arabia it opens up there with throwing the ball. As it turns out he's I'm one of my good friends -- are our -- on the about a week go to we talk about that game. I managed in the -- does -- look pretty call drama coach that's always going to be in drugs. Out of frustration. Who was having trouble with the coach -- the Pittsburgh he recognizes that. Hours and hours via the old they -- and ours is that the Grady Little you're right football press conference. It when the game well I don't know what do you learn -- one -- like we want to game. -- Moral victories. No usually in new winning by a point in the -- it's only -- is -- had more points on the scoreboard -- you know how to -- there. He could to treat the scoreboards like they want. A man they cut that program. Funnel all the money back into basketball which is the only big draw there you rise. But bring back the glory days of Lamar Odom and Jim harrick it and we'll be deleted the glory day glory days are Odom not only their currency has season. And literally there happens that's right while and I know what I'm happy with that much. Oh yeah I class Lamar had a -- 11 they called as nearly beat the Lamar. -- Suddenly nothing and maintenance while New York. Wasn't -- Gary mean to shut the hell you're a you're. You're only there for. You gave up. -- runaway Amtrak has tolerated that you know that thing goes over the other. As always all the -- particularly prone body you know toys on Christmas so that the NFL news and we haven't talked about 'cause you know. John -- always brings a power rankings. Yeah it wasn't their new power and somebody mentioned in life skills on the Wilcox as they will cot cot will will. It's different the program now because the agents are fit and our ranking and -- They do belong somewhere near the top might as he has Tennessee number one. And find the NFL -- in his name and all of them completed a power rankings to overcome almost screwed up but he didn't tedium. The -- Local news speaking Sox know it doesn't -- they are you get that loser fan blog known and as and I do I'll show you. -- and I think it's somebody who. You better part of oh what he was just done. And I swear to god he was just on being quoted me. Clairvoyant ever met Floyd Keith references in the game showed -- that -- Edition of page playbook. Possibly I don't know I didn't catch why he was on but he was just on an -- like a black coach to some that are are hiring or something where they they kind of get taken. Him yeah. While McConnell that it didn't go in the same thing for the last half hour so when it comes up again. You know I had given up trying to find the power ranking I didn't want to talk more about the game. And what we think could not happened yet has been instrumental have been in his neck. -- it around their neck but there hanging somewhere."

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[26:02]" The bills stadium a place they -- guy before you try to strip club -- them they but gentleman's club on the -- lyzard that -- a different -- the same time. Now Italy people in the whatever clears the board by. All the points come from on the board. Every time. 95% of the time you have to deal with neither team -- nobody can ever. They'll have Blake the most of your question and they'll have no etiquette and you know. Could every -- as any you'll agree idiot on the -- you get -- wanted to show -- cousin you're drunk on who's who's who's going to -- whole operation would do that. -- to -- bring in eight years ago. To -- be on our people of Philadelphia public apartment looked like it at that."

[26:51]" You know people probably when now when he -- all the big idiot that ball the ball left the flat in the middle if there in Prague gamma as you know okay. Mister Ditka. -- that. It's it's funny I am glad they -- Paul's not a hypocrite and need as Chris eyes at the two. Go after the money that's all polls don't hear Miami Heat could they with us. He could if you what they're nice fat paycheck waiting at the intercom and with Eric on that detect. You know pay -- and tell the check. Are all under my point is he did -- for more money. If not likely to get dumped early you know somebody who's richer Jack Torino has in his car and I go I guess I don't know why it's different for the money why. Teixeira and CC sabathia I gonna skew everything I question. Which stern. -- any any puck and they all. All that you are. On to it -- and Italy always says that you're talking talking Europe. On the -- You're right and we talked you're right in the last which I don't do anything to -- without regard. I do plan -- topics -- tabloids dislike -- you know what you know sabathia but from a thing of being baseball I think and I think it. -- all but. He's much more common one. Unless you call you know he yeah he clearly Israel radio Hillary because you know grill and -- and he gets a paycheck for getting paid union you can have -- here. And daughter in Kumble and middle of the Mike like we do because we don't get any action now. Part of -- job it. -- I didn't doubt be doing an update today at some point. -- haven't -- it and it hasn't been. Talking about -- is more about. And honestly I'm really -- Yeah but you -- transcript -- get back will be transcripts. Will be -- that -- and as -- threat. And do it today."

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[29:32]" We really come -- this really don't know this. You know what do you think of -- were in the hat inside move -- Internet. It didn't work out one of the now I try go to the gym -- the -- skullcap too hot my balls off liked what -- they could even do get through one that. -- family has pulled nominate an amateur. My als is ripping Amish are ridiculous. And is in particular is ridiculous I. Ridiculous and an -- they got out. You can among the ones -- read and get tortured and read every email. Darren from Wales part of our we'll contingent by the -- huge and I want to know Darren Darren you get -- email back if you watch the Joe Calzaghe Roy Jones junior fight. The fighting pride of Wales but he her and on. The former four time world champion Roy Jones -- a lot of people would be proud and will today a wealth boxer. Undefeated in the -- well. Mosley was going to be last late wanted to go on top I think he's played so they wait -- and that can you tell me into doing a free agent -- he's. No clue while tackle -- up back cattle and one of them could be the -- one and I think only one. Oprah one right there because I think he's going to go obviously. We looked up my article that on. Him while we actually try to talk while -- able I think if for me is Wilfork contract and really only year they re signing date that whole line is much and -- Tenure as hard yeah they're through I think that the O line is through all -- nine. 9 as Lynn Hoch nine to some degree here are locked up right. He's locked up -- but. In the deal I needed it resigned Seymour and obvious he Brady and Warren I'm Warren Warren got aren't scratch I think Wilfork is. He might have another -- and could you talk a lot earlier this year yeah. This is the 2007. Yeah this is not cutting it. Absolutely right you're right you just teach now do you go look this I I look at life -- what I want that yet doesn't ninth region -- yeah. I keep in mind to some football featured dot com -- to be some aqua late by then -- who has been in for. Twenty hours -- day. In his jockey shorts tee and on the out of hand though the kind of people an email to show -- about point like from Nolasco can even look -- team are you kidding me right now. A lot of it is just don't know on -- is experimenting with -- Google in order to not yet experimenting going himself and he does it by position. This. This let it. With a -- a quick went down on. The bridge Jacobs and Heath Evans unrestricted and I I don't know I mean. Can you find a better fullback where probably I mean I don't know. Seems that little niche area fullbacks good fullbacks included -- doesn't -- you can bring it back he should keep I mean he's he's not a -- and you know what I think he knows he's got a good thing here he. Has offers the Royals were I'd be very. Surprised. He's got a great big ugly guys you know I'm hearing -- talk more they play. Now we love you know he's into an -- and he does his job out there does. Jabar Gaffney I think really well maybe. -- still think like he again. I talked about this the beginning of the year I mean this point I think he. The more he plays the more you his flaws and noticeable I do think though that wide receiver could be an area where they target. Created by every guy you want to look at who else out there and Desmond Clark is under Rick did TJ Houshmandzadeh boost. -- pinch hit. Not for me -- me and didn't hear a Bobby -- an immigrant and I don't like him sorry England's -- you know Lee Evans. Them interesting. How old that in though pretty you know he's on he's pretty decent points -- Any -- Roy Williams. -- in doubt. Corey and you know. -- that it the tree line I don't know I don't know if it. Corner -- an area that -- it Devery Henderson and and and that's a very interesting game. Cutter reminds -- Donte' Stallworth who could be a number three could go lower. I I mean he was the most underrated player and you really believe that I mean the guy caught a hundred yards. Overshadowed by Welker -- the American catches and -- and if I'll -- but the it was a good speak like and not only you miss -- now that you could bring back that money I totally understand that. And not only did he -- 600 yards with a passes I think. I tried to guess that he probably born in fifty of those yards after the catch he was very good after the catch in Gaffney -- for a -- he doesn't catch the ball number one up. When he does actually -- you know. But you're right and the net after a play and I always thought he was going to be harder plate but. They had no choice he was going to add to that big money he got -- from Cleveland. There's no way you can hit that many they had an option with him the way they had a contract EI had -- Olympia I don't know if they wanted to they could have picked it back up and kept him. Yeah I've -- a lot for an elementary mean I think. I think that there across that great talent we have the that you base what your rules going to be now how great you far. The you can go -- catch for a thousand yards. But you come here it's going to be about 600 because you're not going to get all the balls thrown towards you gonna be behind Moss and while we can't -- I like this -- to me amazed at eleven dealt. I don't have a problem that I think. It's hard and you are now Dante Hall me now -- special favors I understood decline. Actually Lou the irrelevant nowadays -- cute no it was as -- director flaky at the report. Ox -- I hit it figgins girl. -- with the thing not a Providence and Omar -- retiring after eighteen of the PC connection yeah. That the kids really built they -- guys like Oprah wanted to be on that but the Yankee relevant news of two lines on for more than 12. Is it enough and again and had to do that minority coaches report -- put that -- that -- you know because it's more newsworthy that. Jamal Crawford over tutoring in the first quarter and -- game drew -- the end. -- Amani Toomer. He's more isn't like in his fifteenth the year he retired both fighters now actually they had they had a big game on an anecdote Philly beat president yet -- you know he'd look too much like Marvin -- drop and that's the tension in being a Regina about it. -- you play hard and make him credit. I like the Devery Henderson and a I think every had dogs editor and I had it you know just as the runner on."

[36:20]" Yeah I think he'd be. To the kind of thing that they're looking for a guy who -- have always been. The star and his team but has some talent and might be able might want to play for. Maybe less money. Then they're then they would have to pay wanted you know Gaffney or. Someone or someone like that so. I think that's a very human -- on the names."

[36:43]" Offensive line of the going to be many names popping up on this -- the Patriots and among the noteworthy don't -- and it right tackles or any tackles. Is that my via an area where he might or might make them yeah you want Jon Runyan. Old. The tackles. A tackle tackle tackle. Tackles than anybody. Might go off his guard in the record -- need -- It occurred you know with them by actual position and I'm not that intelligence and give that part. Upon his kicker yeah I don't care of the players but it but he kicker out of the league right now yeah. Did there all that they try to get to the line but our Internet here."

[37:32]" email by the way from my John Howard. Are what John South Carolina dog and for the record us. You know like negative and it -- okay. John says he missed. The PFW shot okay he's getting the finish third are here and there he looked Loney played for a high however dot dot dot. Do we think you'll be on the field there -- if so do we go after him I don't he was great but in them for three months past haven't backed. I'm shocked that they're talking about him being out there are ready now I don't know what the -- he did during this. Nine month hiatus when he wasn't playing and I imagine that he came back you'll like he's in good shape. -- give up here -- some can't and he was like RG yeah he was wearing sweat two months trying to run off all the fat. -- apparently he's in good shape but again I would hope so but at a time that's laughable. -- I don't know I plays Eric he's not going to play them kinda maybe 1112 and I'm really nickel dime packages would probably in nickel but he's a lot of titles right up there anymore and get that idea about it."

[38:32]" Daunte Culpepper signed with Detroit won last Wednesday. And by Sunday he was starting and -- that -- quoting -- that I was awful of course but. I don't think it's out of the question that Lawton play and it I think that's probably why they signed him when they did. Do because they knew this game was coming up and they wanted to have some extra. Depth and in this at that position. Now and they doing that was going after pro."

[38:57]" But they bingo long -- has been ongoing dialogue to some degree well."

[39:02]" Maybe nothing noteworthy that the line for free agent although Julius Peppers will be preach and keep them I would say what is according to let these guys they've already re up. And we're not painted that you do know that -- joke on this drizzle knuckle -- the -- It's at right now linebacker Izzo is an interesting position because we don't really know what happened next there. And -- outside slow it's that two. -- I had been inside. Eric Barton. -- in the jet scraps. Right and ex Yankees and that Ray Lewis. The back in the line. I would be interesting actually you boy you'd be out while the irony to you know either of those quality in my career Reyes stole. He still has it. Talking about one play for awhile. I don't interest in Mayo in and Ray Lewis return yet not a deplorable human beings there. I'm just talk about McKnight and talking about. Personalities. That are the things it. And in the end. Why why -- acquitted -- we return I every day you that block it he's our guy in the a couple of guys got it out."

[40:20]" Well yeah. And who court that by the way because -- play guys hitting around. Finally the innocuous look that bad that they record -- the holding. -- I know for a fact I know -- Then they made an amateur tournament. -- was you know I don't -- RBIs and I remember that -- they. You kind of like the I'd learned Steinfeld the got a thing you know he's walking around is that the might that he does -- champions it will -- on and I think our our our."

[40:56]" You can never unit next -- you bring back Willie McGinest. In money buys all the you have this. Superstar. Linebacker corps. Or you can try to win games. We'd be at the a Cassidy at defensive back here it's two -- move that's that's an area where a guy for there is I can't pronounce numb Desormeaux ago. I got in on the awesome movie alien Nnamdi Asomugha he's good. He's good he's a free agent Brian Dawkins -- Mike Brown never healthy. Yet he's -- doesn't -- that the into. I believe now you Donte'. -- yeah spelled -- DA and the that there is there is no cure for cancer. I -- I've got shot day at a video games but the between Udoka and likeness -- that. Lawyer Malloy no thanks. -- around them from the niners who returned a kickoff return -- I know. Rodney Harrison. Kelvin Hayden. "

[42:11]" Him. You know I -- comes back from the injury and if that. But John Lynch is a free agent now actually the Seattle unemployed right. Boy R. W. McQuarters now know that you think. He's terrible on. I Justin Miller. Well all OHI region now just got at all I I think that might be he would bit of a probably out some issues there in the in New York and meet any ball to the dog now he -- but not just performance wise and correct there -- that but -- and I would. Probably your -- probably yeah but I -- what he has some other issues there and they were to -- with him for and maybe I wouldn't you apprised of New Orleans doing due diligence on and not that that's out. Them from signing any nine guys if you ask for and it's worked out."

[43:03]" Clinton went up pretty well -- with Darren Sharper. And under the listen for a team -- parents are there evaluate himself place for himself right so if the course your question who would ever the hell email that. It -- so long John jump from South Carolina. I was Darren from Wales -- we really didn't financial question what is spartans killed when he meant going overall recently. I don't know if they're free -- and we really group includes ours ours ours ours notable free -- we we kind of did -- the big one and I think we've agreed it. Wilfork has another year but I think they're trying to read ago and now yet and I think delegates. I'd be shocked that he wasn't. Just the by the end of the year and not their protocol. But on that could get it done -- handshake deal behind closed or in."

[43:54]" Play in the global world desirable it here you -- going to be fine and I think. They can give him some reassurance."

[44:00]" What you think about it. His options on the market be as good as he is a pro bowler now. His options might be limited because he excels as a 34 nose tackle -- teams not having yet played 34. And that's going to go into a fourth three if you were not word I'm someone else. You maybe you wouldn't be as effective in that role. Nerves and so. This could be another case where he knows how good he has that if he's gonna want his money but in my -- like with Seymour few years ago where. There were willing to make that."

[44:31]" After hitting they had more than what they had on a year yeah. Physically need to get the deal done that that it was kind of strange. Our buddy Darren does he know back and and beat him Joe Calzaghe is still a class act the only good thing in -- way our own and relate well. Does things -- of the question -- tell -- to England signed to go into it in the bottom of the Pete Carroll of them to do with it while they got him struck him in the seventh round maybe Carol has input and that has an important -- because -- also."

[45:00]" They also scout USC yeah for other players. And when they go to these pro days. Somebody has to throw a ball at their starting receiver. Let's say and US CO -- that sound receiver right there's a quarterback -- the throw the ball to them. All right now everybody knew Carson. -- liner who came up the -- time. Who was going to be a first round pick but he would also have his own pro day. So when they went to scout the wide receivers or the other go position guys that you -- they saw Matt Cassel throwing the ball these guys and say you know this -- Got in town right. And I don't think he went to the com behind but he was out and enough from. From scouts looking at other players. That they knew about them at eight I don't think Pete Carroll really had anything to. That's it to do to convince them because they -- they -- so by doing their their homework on other guys that you receive that that he was. You know legitimate prospect and is seventh round why not take a flyer on a -- like."

[46:00]" You know as obvious a big role the days -- he never played it means one of the more unique situation in the league among quarterback. Who never played right most everybody. Need -- scrub the 10000 yards has some background in he has knowledge in that regard. But -- clearly they saw something in him Darren also asked us if there any tight ends on the free Jalisco and Moscow while. Out the bands going anywhere look at the -- and I see Desmond Clark Leonard Pope. Daniel --"

[46:33]" Well and you be looking for a tight end who can block who can be like Antonio gave her Tony Gonzales there. You know. There are a lot of the guys got you there and there're that many guys like that out there to begin -- sort of try to find one. I -- there's."

[46:52]" Urgency -- but -- there kind of they're forced to go what they had to -- for is morally. Not make like equally and I can't if they ever. That would be fair. The anymore email. Yeah. Well what Rick bell John south Carolina's Iowa it's just that mil for three years a club that. He can be amazing at times is upon -- the rate environment it's tournament rather Donte'. Are his problems all health and mental."

[47:20]" My I don't know why I -- pulled I don't know enough about him. To answer that properly but like I said I think doing and is probably doing it. It it's research on him now to try to figure that out because."

[47:33]" Yeah -- he comes in for work -- more than likely but again it depends on what we talked about the previous show. Yeah any era -- yet they're allowed 53. They really can't do anything right now until somebody goes on IR and a guy that we it would be at -- Thomas and Derrick and four. And pop out -- or has or something in -- where they haven't done yet because well count out for the year. So it may be away on that and you know what if there something Eric that prevent them from doing this. They could -- the -- on a guy like Justin Miller who's out there now -- and it the other teams with the ability to say. We can clear he's now are we can bring him in well I think so you wonder if they're going to miss the -- on guys because -- situation whenever maybe may be easy but if there out there at this point in the season as a reason for that. The only at openers. I elected head cold injection like penalties it is. I'm home I'm close enough moms are you sick tuna and I'm not sick."

[48:36]" Physically and him mentally and they don't Larry Arial that is that. The -- James by the way and kind of and -- our record while -- know yet he had. For forty point games in his team's first nine is something ridiculous if you ask present do it was Jordan. Second -- they want to titlist was and they need to. The second of their six I think was 92 that he Portland here but it one's victory. Then four and then board five worthy Iraq it is 23 in a Rose yet that you play between their Rockets 12. It was 9495 cousin next to beat the rocket foray in and so with the success and they won it again yet. -- nice it is -- they went 72 in ten something. That that. Package does well there were wondering up because -- all LeBron flashed on the screen and I got a -- of -- trying to kill time."

[49:33]" In my yes I think it -- ever goes away yeah it can do which showed the W progress and ATP and progress that treatment. Anybody else contributing anything to the the gossip topics in other words like give me a launching point. Is going to have an -- on the -- yet and 88 you eighty defense. The problem is Gary is we just went through to our isn't talking about the promise -- that everybody call that -- at the problem. I don't think anybody took. There there as early in France in Wales and -- their quality guy. The culprit and it at that point we -- that she bass lines -- caught up. The I'm too -- he's my telephone minute all called able to avoid keeping again by key report. I have. Well written that the that the report by the world that. Oh yeah at everything. ESPN. Is a player out on -- I mean the players out. Now. -- it all and -- Sox. Tell -- we need these cameras rolling because. And neither rolling -- lost -- as we would have many of those moments aria which is through general only Indy to Indy. -- read like a promo and it -- the headphones acting or nothing they are element in a hole it and institutionalized. And then be perfect you you've -- any heart melt down. I'm TF that the U product -- secondly 10000 today. Probably 8000. People think. Betty rubble. And who got scripted wicked. Because we don't have to actually. -- better aren't scripted though it will live. We do -- we had or email me -- Sox. For email and two people outside. We got to -- we got hammered and wanted to quality. Of refined it to the quality of the -- I was completely abysmal. Holy cow when you're on the I can't do this -- you know what I think imminent resignation. Go to press office staff stood on given in my two weeks' time in you know -- Albany times union he had back to. Almost my bad news yet. I could not pick through what life would be like living in Albany. And it listeners that writes -- from Albany. With the rhetoric you know all of our -- eight with eleven -- that at this joke 'cause they easily could think about -- back already saw that it is not. I don't know why I -- really Providence element there. You -- Todd Porter if you had to pick the team MVP. Always -- discussing the gay Olympics hasn't -- everything."

[52:33]" I. You know hurt but they are talking about the -- games put it on big league games. That. Cut back. On any travel and entertainment and CNN there was NA if that business is hurting that's one of the first areas that get cut back so as well as advertised on about that. The gala picked -- the ground -- Are going to the cannot keep it up."

[53:02]" Oh the idea in the agreement. That is -- that 88. Homered and line. I can hear it does the headphones -- color okay what is it jarrah. John and -- body in a mile island is how we do one are you to college under rook. On knowledge on how to avoid as they conduct. If so it's -- it's better thank you you've got to keep you got a very white thing going on again I don't know -- and yesterday I had not even squeak. Really not even a squeak that's been my problem. And Munro. While the debut week. You know the problem is though that I have been like you know chomping at the bit to get the to do stuff you know this week as it's such short turnaround and yeah. In and everything else is going to happen in in I've looked at several of the yeah. Match ups. Between the pats and Jets and I gotta -- again to again today I think most everybody that I've read. Over the course last week where are so that they over the Jets tomorrow night really yeah. You know. Most everybody seems to think the Jets are going to turn the corner because this is a bigger game for them and their franchise in the development in I think."

[54:17]" People are feeding off the forty have a three way they squeaked by the Rams. Now that you be overwhelming having people to bake off the last thing they saw while you know the Rams they played well as soon as. Linehan was fired and hasn't took over and there was a little bit of a honeymoon period -- winning a couple of games and they came in New England. Loss reality and reality start to send and I think we're seeing the real -- I think change of scenery crap you know as the new coach they'll play aren't too bad you know. I know now we're back up and again I'm not and that that diminishes what the Jets it to them because you know it does what are some points on the team in the NFL that's pretty good but the game could do I don't know another projector as. Advanced. As they'd come across a they're more dangerous now though that they were -- well because I think they they know."

[55:04]" I would agree with that particular assessment I think you can look at it William what Chris Jenkins. You can leave the it can lead the defense to stop you know Patriots running game that's been relying on. You know law firm basically carry -- here the last couple weeks. They get Darrelle Revis who's now and being. -- up close and personal by Ty Law should be able to shut down Randy Moss and anybody else that. Patriots -- I did. That's about it I like that that's good things that that aren't right at Harvard well funded. I was in -- if you wanted to go there absolutely -- what I negative so I mean I just you know I think they look at it like the Jets deepens and slowed on the Patriots offense and that. Patriots. You know defense. Is missing you know key cog with with Thomas now you know the latest of the those put on IR so. I think these kind of feel like it's."

[55:51]" Jets turn. A buddy Chris as if Gerard Mayo is when defensive rookie of the year he wants and knows a badly yet -- I'll say -- he said yes I think you should at this point yes thirty nobody I agree he's been on on. Probably what 95% of the snaps. -- back a little bit more in recent weeks I think that's more to spell him down the stretch and anything else on the its performance related."

[56:13]" But we're also starting to Seymour her versatility from him we talked about it earlier in the showed John he's he's dropping back into coverage a lot more and we saw we saw him covering Dallas Clark for a lot of easy game yes he he got a little bit of a pass rush in against Buffalo this week he he's starting to. Now that he's comfortable in the system. Started to show the versatility that he had at Tennessee and I think that puts him you know he just won the defensive player of the month Award. Rookie defensive player right for October. I think he's the leading candidate -- it right now I think he's leading or is that in the top two in tackles on the team right now."

[56:49]" He's he's any -- as he leads all rookies in tackles. I think Juliet if anybody else right don't know -- get himself hurt as well there was none of that the guy who won it in September was Redskins safety Chris Horton I believe -- he'll play. You know you you if you win defensive player of the month as a rookie you're in contention. Obviously but I think Mayo is proven. The number snaps he's played leading the team in tackles leading rookies in tackles showing his versatility now. I think he's your guys they only have to worry about them -- month or five that. Voting but now here that can happen here's here's the amazing thing if you think back to last year when. There was talk that New England was going to try to maybe tripping yet. Patrick Willis and if they had done that. And they still had this pick. This year to get mail that went head to. Players two young players who in middle linebacker. Were standing. Willis won it last year. I know I know obviously they make that trade last year the trade up again and date nine of the this year but yeah I'm wondering the graphic that you know that actually change things but who they -- of traded up is here again and as well I mean. And adjusting again the play keeping me -- it. Yet we're missing the beginning of that obviously a key thing while that's we're trying to figure out that it -- a that you're right football. Oh costly -- have to beat. Have to be -- any at the end because there's some board yeah oh yeah he's executive director of the black coaches so that and some reports this came out. Intermediate -- react to all the doors that I it was it has to do with the fact that he's women -- that just aren't black tires that all now you know those of the NC BS about that turn one of the games on Saturday. Is there -- about what or influence all of it this way I mean Ty Willingham didn't came so there's one less break there is. Was that Sylvester crew was he still out of necessity based elements of state -- fought like 300 schools is that water -- NFL teams is not so bad but you know the ratio the percentage is ridiculous yet. Agassi. -- probably you know. That's another well you have to understand that's an agenda driven organization Corey it is you know it's it's known that they've got to keep pushing the envelope league until we feel like they get equities and on and I understand that's what you coach -- now. Now now in the hidalgo let your right. He coached. This is also true yeah Woody got -- on -- now. Well believe it or not we've been able to -- Russell Baxter from his normal Thursday slot. Two -- days since he understands it will all week. Getting ready for a game at the same time tomorrow so Russell and join us in the second barrel program and a below is also going to come into Yankee walked through the necessity of -- ago so we're going to try to we're going to throw slept through the of the final -- program with them. At least half voice today and guys -- I. -- here that I sincerely appreciate you're you're stepping into the breach you know probably the person -- in the were to play it at. We -- our -- things surge historian of the bicycle around a lot of us all that's ever playbook I've ever we are -- on that back candidate that. With that though there have been other host a a and you let me lacked for two weeks -- did real little Thursday I think he's had a line like I did that is very veteran for the two of us. -- tonight. The American me. I think you'll -- Arab emirates and that's good that's when we're back on that again evaluate -- John thank you for letting us. Grew in the first hour we'll let you guys you know at the best in the second. Now are you at John or did you just yelled I I actually it as Gary and because I was the one that was starting to squeak -- in a break there with the wheels on and off of the game our -- game during the game -- oh yeah Orioles got a phone call. From who really well -- almost -- over the -- yes he did. He -- good for a lot of -- all dugout he arrogant and bring in the lefty had to go to -- go to the left I'm Prado to -- of the popular."

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[1:06:16]" Although there was start was it but take a deep breath and just call. Welcome back inside our number two Patriots playbook John rookie would you -- wrote this Wednesday and again thanks to well both -- into Eric. For filling in the opening our. And I needed listen to what you know well I think -- I think a little bit of a little bit show. For those that are uninitiated yes I have been up battling. -- laryngitis over the course of the last 72 hours -- the Patriots game was completed on Sunday. I've got a little left in the tank today in hoping to keep most of it if we have the game tomorrow so to that end. Brian Lowe from Patriots today has made his way downstairs into the studio to give his -- handed."

[1:07:24]" You the man and calling in from the bullpen a day early in fact work in the middle innings instead of the late innings of our baseball game. ESP n.'s NFL coordinator. Russell boxer hello Russell."

[1:07:38]" I am sorry your -- after here explain. Why we're worse than anyone but you know what they throw Thursday's game curve balls and you hear Bill Belichick beat. You know the way he Todd today's event tomorrow is that who can who can really keep track they'll play football again tomorrow what -- they would every day they want."

[1:07:56]" I was -- him if he was what you understand of course that because it's such a bizarre week for us in a short week and everybody trying to get into the hole Thursday night thing which by the way. To me I look I love the fact that we get a chance now. And with the exception of course of the -- the Monday night game. To look forward to something earlier in the week and I think that was the entire intent of the NFL network trying to move into this Thursday package was amount Russell."

[1:08:22]" And he knows this year they're pretty much exclusively Thursday night teams they should've won Saturday night. Mayo which is a Ravens Cowboys which will be the final regular season game or may -- final game. At Texas Stadium. Open everything up as a Thursday so they kind of shifted there there practices but I can't I'm sorry I can be talking you so much time you could I really had to be -- and -- thing you can go."

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[1:09:07]" Yeah obviously. -- let's quit and start than with the game for tomorrow night simply because it's on the agenda. And the fact is that both teams have to turn it around rather quickly. But I would just mention with the PFW guys just a little while ago Russell that frankly. From everything that are right over the last 2448 hours there's a lot of sentiment in this game going toward the Jets. And their opinion was that because the Jets just actually steamrolled St. Louis and winning 47 at three in the probably getting a little bit of bounce from bat so. Do you feel like that is the case number one and number two. Who's this a bigger game for Jets the Patriots."

[1:09:47]" Well I mean I think suggests they'll have to like we have talked about the Buffalo Bills. In recent weeks and it's interesting how that come to wish and he'll suddenly they're playing the division there are great. And other that are losing streak for the Patriots and -- the Jets have yet to prove they consistently. Can consistent deepest team. And you know I think everybody you know I would get defensive going into this game shot very much like everybody jumped on the Jets -- two. Because all of -- Tom Brady went out. And suddenly nineteen Ted doing and win again. The fact of the -- chippewas four straight and eleven out of twelve to New England include that playoff game at Foxboro. Couple years ago that the one win why did two years ago in Foxboro the regular season. When Chad Pennington was there in -- get a lot of heat on Brady that day but. I'm an optimistic with the -- at least for now on and we'll talk about it. I think it's a bigger gains for the Jets. Because they have yet to consistently proved they can beat the big -- in the division."

[1:10:50]" And the -- that they have won this year Russell in the district where they've won five out of six. Among those words again you can only play. What they tell you to play and where like Kansas City I Cincinnati they'd barely beat god -- peaking at Indian St. Louis last week in the game they lost was to Oakland in overtime -- You'd have to say that they they have a lot to prove a I and the rivalry with the Patriots a lot to prove as far as. Are they for real as -- 63 team. Contending for the division in 2008 what can we really say about this team. About the Jets team over as -- what they've done over the last 56 week stretch."

[1:11:26]" Well they wanted more games over the last five or six weeks to get all of last year certain which is you know that's one step in the right direction. I think the thing I've liked about them in recent weeks since the start to their running game going he's seen a lot of accomplished you know. And their offensive line which states that went to a lot of trouble -- this year. But with the additions Damien Woody and of course Alan Faneca. Looked like it finally start kinda come into it so -- get over that stretch of the last five or six we respect. The -- clunker to the Oakland Raiders. You know and so that I think has the late in the back of your mind as well you know it also laid back you mind. That if any one time Brett Favre as prolific as he would. Can also throw the ball to the other team. And you know he's had. Three interceptions returned for touchdowns this year back to swing the momentum of the game rolling really quick -- I think it was an interception by Brandon meriwether. That changed the momentum of their first game when they played -- can we do that aren't so I think they do have things to prove but of course that -- that. An intense rivalry game and ended the rivalry you know why people say what not a rivalry if it's -- died. There's a rivalry and it goes back even further and it would spell check with you guys well now. And I just think as far as as. -- the importance of the mind that. -- I think the Jets are surging right now. I still think the game means much more to that because they have to prove. That they get they get the job done. And you know it if it comes down leader here that there. The attendance stick to afford to and a division in two of the losses are both the New England again that means -- division title so. You know they didn't they didn't make all the changes to dignity this year. Two not make the playoffs are set -- for -- art."

[1:13:17]" And obviously the biggest change is the one nickname towards into the offseason with with Brittany Favre. And patron odd that we do when you don't renewed the team and all that now talking at some of the Patriot players over the course of this week. They think that there's little change in what are as good -- Asked to do with the office -- like India on the our run game and and while they -- years afraid managing the game I don't think it out about our big of a difference in the way you handle in the office all that. What do you -- Favre and what do you think the Patriots are going to that different from what they are back and we."

[1:13:51]" You know and a short I don't agree with me by the word. Managing the team has become like his dirty word yet. It in the NFL. -- but after the quarterback with the -- it is yeah. Okay I have seen. Offenses -- all due respect to what Brady accomplished last year. I have seen the high scoring. One man show in terms of the quarterback putting up these enormous numbers. And that the quarterback and it has kinda carrying the team offensively. Always opened not championships. Okay there have been fired instances in NFL history. Were quarterback missed from forty or more touchdown passes to start at the numbers. And the first for the highest total of fifty by Brady. In 49. I Peyton Manning the 48. By Dan Marino if 44 bite him arena. No championship. And pick every at 244 touchdown passes 1986 and didn't make quite. To our -- that hit you back like. Two others that lost Super Bowls Brady and Marino and it was Peyton Manning this season and up and Foxboro this Nolan is where you'll go -- additional playoff. There's a recent teams and to -- commit Brett -- so successful last year is what the Packers have you know amongst other things. What was there they let the lead into that category last year what. Yards after the catch. He got used to his new receiving -- last year. And I think Greg Jennings and and -- Jones and -- like -- no -- like definitely. And those guys. He got involved and as soon as possible get the balance from Ryan Grant. You know what that is the more the merrier I mean you want everybody involved in your -- not just one person carrying. And I think at Tennessee -- ready and he could -- the conflict about how do you think that that's what he wants to do and sometimes. But I think he's just -- getting more acclimated to the guys around them. I think the key indices not only finding out what they can do with sometimes with -- Q do. Which -- a huge key in the game of football. And put guys into positions to succeed. And I think Brett kinda just east at least doesn't like ten games as the beginning at -- of course you'd really have. Personally I mean real training. This year in I would I would there's been a lot of changes here for the Jets. We already had enormous amount of changes from a year ago and then of course -- got the quarterback almost like at the last minute so. Maybe just kinda start to hit their stride I'll I'll say this week we spent so much time. Talk about Favre and all that stuff. I think it's been impressed with their -- couple weeks and he -- you know regardless of their plane -- Defenses start to really come into its note that the two guys and by the -- doing a lot without David Harris yeah and they're really good second year inside linebacker. The two guys are really stood out in recent weeks. I -- Chris Jenkins. Who again here's another that was afford three defensive tackle now played 34 -- right and second your quarterback Terrelle read it. Who -- technique and little overtones that he could be a probable player."

[1:17:07]" That was what I was never got next was was the jets' defense and you mention the overhaul that they had in the offseason and a lot of the changes on what you came on on the defense -- Jenkins and encased and they're really coming into their own and you know even even back -- today. His press conference. To be floored by some of the that rattling off affected. Different guys who have had act this year and L is different interceptions. What is in the big difference how much of an -- we're how much of an impact Chris Jenkins commit. Is it all Chris Jenkins what kind of an impact has he had and and how good really is this run."

[1:17:41]" Well he had again you noted that the difference of just put the stick and a big body yeah in the -- and a 34 opposed to playing before the -- You know if you're playing a 34 successfully. Your notes tackles kind of too at times three guys and at a -- outside linebackers to play and I don't think it's any mistake. -- coincidence that the other guys start to play well. In recent weeks has been -- take. Yeah outside linebacker and they -- huge money to was with the Arizona Cardinals who really started who just became an outside linebacker. -- with the defense and it. That -- and the Cardinals Roy you know what to do attempt. They finally when he shifted their being decent -- and so there's a lot of transition is going on here with positions guys are playing and so wanted. -- other get toward the middle overseas and and guys have been playing together for a number of months battling. Regular season and receipt of the training camp. You know this team especially defensively. Seems to really start to be coming into it to mean that they needed it the best way to -- described rejected the work in progress. I'm not sure how truly good they -- But these seem like they're headed in the right direction. And at that you know that can only pay dividends now. Whether that direction means that they are ready to go in Foxborough. And beat a team that regardless of the personnel seems to have their number are two totally different thing."

[1:19:04]" I saw on the Yahoo! website on espn.com. Where they were robbed rating the teams again and the Patriots moved a big in their power rating poll this week which is. Okay great I guess but whoever wrote it an amateur who wrote it."

[1:19:17]" Are much shorter. What BCS game and those teams are going to be okay that's -- exactly that you've ever heard I hadn't practiced at least the Patriots next."

[1:19:25]" They listen and a great great effect text that phobia seven point favorites to own a home but whoever wrote the blow Russell mentioned that. Matt Cassel. Is now bonafide. NFL starter. And I found that as. Shocking number one because it's the first time anybody that I've seen in the national media has said anything close to that about Matt Cassel."

[1:19:50]" Well I don't think he can deny what he's done I mean I think -- a lot of credit as the go to the Patriots -- coaching staff. You know people -- it got so used to seeing what New England did last year that they forgot what New England was when they won their first Super Bowl. And that's not a criticism next. Deputy of the New England Patriots have why they've been successful. For this decade and they have changed. Constantly but just the personnel but their style play. They really were four different kinds of teams that went to their four Super Bowl. One of my favorite stat that -- don't want my favorite stat of all. Is one New England won its first Super Bowl 2001. Their offense scored three touchdowns and three playoff game. In Tom Brady scored three touchdowns and -- February minute last year him but the results. Where -- where this thing he got to a Super Bowl where they want a Super Bowl in 2001 but they're -- and he. Was not prolific this is not a prolific offense either power but it's playing within yourself. And making the most of the people that you have I think Bill Belichick is that it's not a great job that they know they don't know they're not going to have a killer Thomas for a little bit. Or maybe not the rest of this season. So they won't just looked at as well you know the beauty of overhauling. Their roster the way they've done with free agency in recent years. We're pretty throughout their tenure. In terms of the Belichick -- get used to people not being -- sometimes. And you know that's -- but I'm Bill Belichick kinda get. That not -- while the quarterback or the running back or or or did you know when he describes guys -- positions rather than names and everybody so. Quick to jump on him Venus you know cold person. You know he's putting the terms that he understands. You know while we want to sit here and debate and talked and blah blah blah he's thinking I gotta replace this component -- another component. And I have to be successful doing and the success means. They're tied for first place and he would be very."

[1:21:54]" And you know this. Much like the end of the year is just so intriguing and as of right now -- last week as -- you get to 63. -- five or four we know the way the NFL works these days with you know the schedule the team played pretty much -- almost almost entirely the name opponents aren't as continue to shake out here and they returned the middle a three game stretch it he Buffalo. Is finishing up a three game stretch in the AFC east. You know where where were getting into the mid November here in the home stretch how do you need this division shaking out. As we move on these next six."

[1:22:28]" Well I think Buffalo's and Buffalo's three game stretch was strictly yeah but he honestly you know because. You do it your. All each holds a correct I'm just going to do Matt -- What's the best big Indian division three straight right that it is not a lot of tiebreaker. And that also means that. They still have to -- played it yet. In New York. In win and that means in a game that department and think about it then. They have to play the Miami Dolphins at home. But not really. -- in Toronto. Which has lead to indoors which is it gives Miami which kind of neutralizes it. The advantage they had. So that that's not quite that they -- I -- I think built and a lot of strikes that they -- hurt themselves. I think the team to watch. That's going to be interesting going to stretch is Miami -- And it as a team and who would pocket. But they're now -- for the important either it would one into the patient they beat the bills they beat the Patriots. And I think it's one thing to be. Perfect example Miami's items for. Into one of the division like we just -- repeating myself. The Buffalo Bills in the AFC east in the Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC east of both five and four and both of them went to read -- so in terms of winning your division title they they probably crippled themselves these Philadelphia's lost own division games the Chinese in the red. So they're -- absolutely monumental. -- appointed. You got to win these games that are so very very important the built in get a chance to get that done. It's most often most importantly he's got a hold serve. And the division. -- steal one on the road. And that's why I'll repeat again it's so important for the Jets to win this game. Because they could not hold serve against the Patriot -- and we do and I got to kind of make up for Munich they got a little belt back -- any winning in Buffalo. But they're going to have to beat New England kind of get themselves back and somebody's going to have to afford to a fight at one in this division -- the division."

[1:24:43]" But some jump through some of the of the games that we have here on Wednesday anywhere realize it's a little bit early but a couple of great. I don't know I thought. That thank you thank you. Hum how -- Baltimore playing at the New York Giants the Ravens. All of a sudden shown some offense in the Giants still showing like they are Super Bowl champion."

[1:25:02]" If he you have to really like which he's seen at both teams. And you know all we're kind of playing that decent. They can now although. Big big news this week is loose and a couple of deep -- that we both Chris McAlister and Dawan Landry. In the year right. So big they took some hits and their secondary -- young Joe Flacco. -- touchdown passes and zero interceptions in the last four games all wins guys he threw one touchdown and 76 the first spiked. -- pretty nice turnaround by down the -- you know where I mean obviously big story issue's been that the new head coaches -- new quarterbacks that we had in Baltimore but. Speaking of old and -- it's not really -- but the Giants just keep on chugging along they would another big road games. -- last week in New York I'm sorry in Philadelphia. Reject. Find a way to win I mean it you know. Most surprising to Philly put 31 points on the board against them the way to tried defenses played -- as of late. They tried to get back on the -- so yeah usually follow their usual formula. But they were able to run the ball right on the the Eagles -- you know they've they've there's been a lot of fun with the political earth wind and fire combo Brandon Jacobs. And Ahmad Bradshaw and Derrick Ward but it the second week in a row guys. That the three of them combined for over or at least 200 yard rushing."

[1:26:28]" Good solid numbers and good solid number eight."

[1:26:31]" Com -- usually about Tom Coughlin you guys that it has -- date with the Giants you know -- didn't serve that role right when he was in Jacksonville what was the hallmark of his. Offensive line sure that one of the best often -- football need kept it together for a year and a half it was key to their run last year. They've run they -- Very cohesive group. And they kind of paved the way I think they set the tone. Well we're also caught up about Plaxico and Eli in. And all the other components than you know the defense missing people that offensive line is the one constant. And it's the reason there is that they are."

[1:27:08]" How about this one that could affect the Patriots and or anybody else in the AFC east. San Diego playing at Pittsburgh."

[1:27:16]" Yeah I mean to Chargers I get there the enigma. Of the league. And galactic of course -- interesting game holding on against Kansas City you know Harvard or I'd go for the win rather I. But I mean it didn't seem like they. Just kind of wake up sometime in the second or third quarter -- that old got a candidate meet people like. You know Pittsburgh another story you know a lot a lot about Ben Roethlisberger at his recent problems in getting back a lot -- He interceptions than the last three games that -- the Steelers to meet. Where is where is the Chargers are kind of they lost teams. The Steelers are kind of lost offense they want to get lost their identity they they don't run the football. Army and then pretend to be a power football team when they need to be that I thought it wanted to keep a net loss for the Colts last week. Was. You know moving the ball on the field via the pats and and indicated side. The five yard line it takes three cracks with the running game. -- and wanted to try to get stuff they that this team has not try to establish the white scrimmage it's like they want Ben Roethlisberger to do it beat. It just doesn't work that way and I don't I I think. Any time you put that we we talk apparently thinking it -- emphasis on one guy it's never going to work. The I just indicated it was figure out which emergency Diego showed up now last week of course it throughout this. Funny historical stat about the Colts. Who lost their last twelve games in Pittsburgh had won in Pittsburgh since 1968. The Chargers have their own kind of worried that Pittsburgh they'd never won a regular season game there guys there -- went well. But funny enough. They have won. Two playoff games. In -- city Pittsburgh includes the euphoria of each game those sentences the regular season do we do we figure Pittsburgh Oregon again. It's one streak that it's a flat we get the Colts. You know Indian mobile -- that the best way to put DL you don't know what's really don't the pitcher but you really not sure what to help team on either side. Is going to show up I would say one thing about it constant. Expertise and as a rookie recaptured a lot of fire you know that combination I know more it would -- late last week. But James Harrison it is a lot of trouble or anybody."

[1:29:36]" Right I tennis is in the middle of of very interesting stretch they squeaked out a couple wins overtime against Green Bay and and they they come away with a win against Chicago the that was Taiwan. There at Jacksonville. It is a child what kind of challenges are for them we even get to -- I don't know."

[1:29:53]" Well -- this will be -- I mean you know Jacksonville got another enigma. You know. They start a way to start out last week against Detroit public I would really going to lose to the bank alliance -- back -- and Wheaton. Against that this is -- themselves but. Now you know I think what's been -- at Tennessee is what we did. Made the assumption that you know they were tied it stodgy offense they run the ball and so on well. Last week and really rolled it up against the Bears 29 carries for twentieth start. At this tripping over equipment truck line. That you've heard from any yet this week you know I hit Kerry Kerry Collins comes down throws from most recently York so. -- did you -- coaching job he does. Not a good offensive line to keep Kerry Collins pretty clean they'll make a lot of mistakes and so one. Became in Jacksonville that that hasn't beaten really matter as tennis species that we give this -- fit but. To -- Jacksonville. This is their seed in right now. They backed apartment Friday we have a fighting through it at 46. I think they can pretty much forget it and I'm going to state had these street and this week. We're very desperate Jacksonville."

[1:31:03]" Ku -- alum like it they've won it my all time favorite matchups. Cowboys and Redskins. Sunday night."

[1:31:11]" Yeah and which is much important. It is usually at it's funny how it always kinda important and I get the most important is sport's -- And these Clinton Portis is a replacement for it -- again this week on -- that the -- and player but you know both he seems a -- two weeks to recover from. Kind of physical -- I mean you know Dallas got pushed around by the New York Giants one last time we saw them you know Jason Campbell had a very rough evening against the Pittsburgh Steelers defense. -- you go back when he's had played earlier here this was kind of regain. That kind of put the Cowboys into their -- currently. Spit. It was the Redskins with that ball control offense -- their offensive line who really. Dominate the Cowboys is over this course point 624 member. Ripken took the ball for over 38 minutes and didn't and you know Portis had over a hundred yards. Santana Moss had a big games -- Campbell had a big game. They've really kind of yeah pinprick issues too much but you know what I mean yeah they've really kind of pushed around Dallas in that game. I'll be interested to see that mindset of both of these clubs. Coming back here -- it it's awful it's for whatever reason. This. You know there are there always seems to be a split in this series more times than not. Again I think -- is probably -- more desperate to Washington in east everybody had to be desperate apparently were the Cowboys Sunday."

[1:32:41]" You know. There are a couple of division games as well involving the other team's not playing in this Thursday night game. Oakland is playing at Miami and of course your game on Monday night ESPN game as Cleveland playing at Buffalo. I don't even know that we need to spend any time talking about Oakland at Miami of the exhibit Miami's going to be six in four. So they're going to be tied for second in the division at worst. And still only game out of first place. -- is trying to hang on. -- Cleveland has their own set of problems going on right now although. I'm sure they at least are somewhat pleased with the beginning of of the Brady Quinn era."

[1:33:19]" But what you think you have to be it's their defense that is really been a problem even want to be touchdown them about the mentioned with the Toro. Interception return deer -- and glad to -- the Browns have been outscored 37. In the fourth quarter. Blown double digit lead. In both those games -- home losses to Baltimore Denver I think point probably let it happen out there. You know they're going to happen with three games -- just to get back of 500. Buffalo's still had -- life obviously. I think their running game and we really get -- Marshawn Lynch really kinda stay out yet this year. And had a hundred yards I think it this year. This is probably be good week in that atmosphere. In now Monday night up at Buffalo I think will be pretty electric. My good teams will count right now because they have a lot you know grow like they're stolen it they're still as much -- anyway you know look and someone's going to lose Thursday night. You have three teams -- six and -- it again exactly oh. You know and you know -- Miami yet although it's partly they would would lose but of course. You know these of the top 53 young. Remember adult. -- played horrible and they came within the two point -- in -- this troupe will be will be wearing that number Oakland without a -- Miami last year it -- them. But of course this is not you're not -- Peppers Raiders. Their offense has scored. Nine touchdowns. While that this kind of what they look like two years ago. And after this since beating the Jets sixteen to thirteen in overtime. The Raiders the score sixteen points in three games Luke and Iraq and it squirted -- quarter so. So -- bleak so yeah black. Take your pick with the -- silver collect about it and no team in NFL history. Is ever lost at least twelve games or consecutive seasons the Raiders are right with two other franchises. They're going to have to really work for focuses are here to avoid -- the incident and it Ellis."

[1:35:24]" Actually when you consider that they do that. On the heels of go to the Super Bowl mean that's just amazing."

[1:35:32]" Standing. Order record believe it's 11. Since they won the Super Bowl right. It's. Partly I mean you -- this group really bad this group that bad to have. Some. Extra. And the Patriots get to visit them and bottom gotten. What I had to do yeah and will they still have a team with a sore franchise when we get their."

[1:35:59]" An NFL sanctions and then Brooklyn and they might have been union card revoked so. It's really ashamed at what happened out there it is really head. -- you know you know Tom cable. Who is the latest. Temporary solution right now. Because -- was fired up it's just going to be interesting where this franchise's and a lot of things could -- about Al Davis and so on probably rightfully so. You know Bobby you know hoping something. And so -- you know people can be rule -- producing jokes. You know you know until you know lead. That that franchise -- responses. It's it is hard at least things have gotten as bad as they've got. And I don't think -- himself many papers this year. Without press conference. You know I think you portray himself as the very bitter. An angry person and time that indeed it will confuse so. It's. That it they've become a running joke. As far as a franchise you know and -- situation."

[1:37:10]" Most definitely special when you go back to the in the history of the the old AFL which of course the Raiders are part of the Patriots aren't I think you're if you're real. AFL fans or an AFC fan nowadays I think Kim. I don't know what you but I found myself rooting for a lot of the teams that you know you've been in this you know already with over the last forty plus years you know."

[1:37:32]" The last I looked at it's not good but it's not -- certainly different angles into the playoffs one time in seventeen or eighteen years. You know whether it's not good for the wind to be as bad they are. Since 2001. Of -- certainly not good for one the premier franchises. To be struggling the way they're struggling so. Somethings -- something's going to happen happen I'm not sure what's going to happen. But you know it's going to be another year that's what we know there's going to be another year change in Oakland starting in 2000."

[1:38:02]" Western -- we appreciate your coming in on a day off. And visiting with us -- with the -- well. Yes you -- come and a half effect you can just name your number -- all that work trio wrestling on numbers."

[1:38:18]" Some paperwork out of be -- gear it up with a bat that Russ you -- numbers what's that -- halftime zero. 1495. That that's solely -- right right that's called greeting one occur."

[1:38:33]" Didn't sold. And we appreciate it Russell as always thank you very much for an old time -- and -- will try to -- Hook up again not a regular day next week as that --"

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[1:38:47]" The other brought some fun definitely. Everybody. Got a Russell Baxter -- via NFL research coordinator for ESPN. Honestly he's he really knows how to spot what's -- about Disney below."

[1:39:01]" Oh he does that's a great and I had the door of the -- talked to like you do each and every week but I've boys and yet he can rattle off he had not -- but yeah I know. The way teams are playing in firing off a couple different things there -- and he knows what he knows the deal is forever in there and absolutely. Very good doctor and adequate number -- just as. You NFL quarterback what identical passer rating has right now on the."

[1:39:27]" Are they up near the top of the list and the -- middle middle of the pack at middle pack. Today Cassel and Favre I'm not so much -- how about that. How about Matt Cassel have a record junior and Matt Cassel. Really Tom Brady. A -- eleven. Tom Brady for eleven in the first quarter the game leaves him with an 83 point nine answering for the year right now. -- three point written. About that is that is operatives say that's pretty good head Kevin Faulk higher than Matt Cassel what is one for one minus two yards or Kevin Faulk right now is just a couple of points behind guys and 79 point two kilowatt for one with my two yards to tell you that it is that at -- He's got a great little yeah exactly. Right Kevin O'Connell not shortchange him as it ninety point who was three -- a Punto with the three for four with 25 yards against. I believe. Was it."

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[1:44:52]" Put the clamps on paper playbook or maybe Wednesday and the final playbook. Work week as well for the wild world. Just for those of you were wondering and we didn't do anything not actual game day is looking for a night PFW in progress we'll be around tomorrow from noon until 2 PM. Then after that everybody's got to get ready for games so that we know well playbook showed tomorrow. And unfortunately below there will be no."

[1:45:16]" Fantasy load down tomorrow I don't know what is this whole world take the field a week off yeah. I don't know why are you now I -- and I can't. I get -- get ready for the game to you know I applaud during the game -- John. All I got a lot relate to prepare for for and I don't likely part in a -- John handers roundtable chat before the game. I got a lot of really a lot to prepare for -- yeah I'm Gary I did it. I -- Gary did needed day off on not bode well but really."

[1:45:47]" Your your wish is is his command because you -- down the they'll Morris are there will be PFW in progress for those of you listening. Well later on as well from noon until two tomorrow on Thursday game day and then of course. Will be off until next week's program and we should also mention that tomorrow night's game is celebration of Troy Brown. Will have but stuff with Troy concerned during them. What do we do it a pregame we don't have time mostly to halftime -- halftime that's what I thought so that's pretty cool infected you know Troy. He is going to be honored by the Patriots and I think obviously be a very worthy moment for Patriots fans everywhere."

[1:46:24]" Who is it is pretty cool and I think it was it was the Denver game minded Andre Tippett night. Eight months. Coupled a couple of prime time likable primetime home games and and not -- great game but but really didn't get a -- on an idea. We thought and grit and Troy you know on what a great press conference -- Whatever one month ago and yeah when if there's an retirement or -- and -- and it didn't quite an that phrase but bingo media they don't ego and you know I don't tell it Cordoba golf. I think that's the guy is W admiration that that Robert Kraft has -- Bill Belichick has forming you know. What the fans. I mean Detroit which were brown and Al. And you know we love this moment it certainly well it certainly will and I you know hole lead hold the Patriot you know. You know I Patriots are winning at the time in and night night and all that about that latter point but. On you know Troy Brown has special place and an arts have pretty much of yourself being a good night of the night yeah him around. For tree. When he -- Patriots today. Well you know we are where we're previewing the game but today condensed week for -- but we've got you know take a look at at at -- and several players there was interest and several players as we got to the side. You know Mike Vrabel Ellis -- among them. We're talking about how they did the Jets offense and our particular. Come into his -- now on you know. Realizing that okay you know we've got a pretty solid running game right now in the offensive line well and -- and there have been changes in the -- handled the team dominates natural continued team but some of the Patriots players seem to about that on media on film is we -- talking a little bit about that. And a few other odds and ends -- we EI did it's weird to analyse it we wind down the week. But I find the way to put it -- on the other end you know for which is along -- so next week will be trying to figure out RBI at the time here. -- Miami -- But I like that I like this quick turnaround in -- and what a great game it really going to be an intense game because it always is between these two teams we know -- for her."

[1:48:34]" Absolutely and I it was kind of fun because the the -- stadium hole that they do you know much you can do what your your phone and text and everybody on the results don't like -- again. Asked who the Patriots chief rival Wallace in fifty members of the respondents last Sunday said the Jets so. This is a rivalry game it's a family feud game it's an AFC east game -- the JETS Jets Jets Jets I mean this is the game that anybody and everybody -- Patriots fan can sink their teeth into. And I'm sure they'd like to have the Jets to sink their teeth into as well and have a -- good."

[1:49:06]" and you know what I -- I am I cannot tell you how enjoyable while the storyline. Ty Law. I think format. I don't know it was a little tweak all of the realized I of course -- I don't think he can play. If he could play he'd be somewhere by now any good life will be a Patriot exactly yes a -- eleven month he would tell me you cannot tell me that yet. Scouting department general manager coach woke up on Monday at. You know what. I'm not really broke where quarterback what Ty -- even. I just don't I don't see it being a realistic scenario. Then all of a sudden on a short week. They're bringing Ty Law because he's going to be different opening schedule that lawyer -- you know even though we didn't just cut tie Albert yeah opening schedule that that magic got a better -- don't anyone lawyer -- when they I'm normal when the when the Patriots Cutler or in the bill signed him. At least you -- right in the thick of training camp and and you are now -- you know you know he's always in football shape. I don't think we know we're going to get Ty Law I'm ask be fascinated to see if he plays it on people -- Eric Mangini said you know it's likely that he will if you play to the Patriots go after him how does he look I think it can be asking a team that already loaded storyline. The disagree one into our number 22 so look out for Corey 122 -- right."

[1:50:24]" I was speaking -- and -- we're going to leave you today with his conference call members of the Patriots media. In Soviet former Patriots defensive -- is. Bill Belichick protege now they head coach of the jets' Eric Mangini or wrapping up today in the will be back same pats time same -- channel. Next week it's."

[1:50:46]" we don't do that. Effect."

[1:50:49]" Eric I guess we'll start by asking you how you think the other two teams have changed yeah we've killed."

[1:50:56]" Oh yeah. I think the one thing -- stayed consistent -- whole team is he -- the same game plan specific approach game winning game out. So I think that that nearly all I guess so it came necessarily going to be. What -- yet it's going to be were given the best chance to win. And that's somethin' that we try to take the same approach here. I think that we agent prior this it isn't -- variable thought actually he's actually. And it regulators on the same -- area like the way that. That match play right now agency. How much. How comfortable he is and that role but. -- that hasn't changed is that explosive playmakers they have all the skill guys being able to urge to generate things off actually. Especially host out their front seven is -- and disciplined. They aren't and it and really really do special teams. It's challenged just like -- of that --"

[1:51:57]" How much more comfortable is Brett can't in his system now than it was and we feel."

[1:52:02]" I think each we did that he's worked receivers are working off that. He gets a little bit more possible. But it's so. It'll continue to be a work in progress senate. But the more reps that that we all play together. I think -- More person makes. Yeah."

[1:52:24]" And it will force a lot of fumbles on sacks we have a lot of sex in general is just ridiculous acts are you doing anything you guys. Easter play -- that."

[1:52:36]" We'd we'd do a lot of work in that area and that's something that we. That I learned. Well first with the Jets respect a lot of time I'm what's called ball disruption. And hope pepper -- setup up very. We focused on individual players any legit. Different areas that you can exploit maybe the way they hold the ball -- maybe -- that's where he holds all scramble patterns and things like that. And just giving the guys -- awareness so if you do get the opportunity to. Get exact order dissect guys hit in Apollo. Wearing a personal ball or what would be the most horrible sports."

[1:53:18]" And guessing you've been pretty satisfied with the how they've carried that out this isn't."

[1:53:23]" I was I was really happy last game because of the types of fumbles -- that we're able to generate. Were guys winning and and really ripped -- ball. Well as opposed to. It's sometimes -- public -- how you get the player. As opposed to a conscious effort of fighting the ball. And getting it out and then go to. Two examples that we had a fighting at getting help."

[1:53:54]" you. My -- that curious where things stand with Ty Law if that's if there was this point in sort of what you're -- and he brings to your."

[1:54:05]" What we live with my experience we have Britain's. About a five years of coaching very very. The one thing that I like about making this move is. The versatility that he -- he's played. Inside at the start citizens some. He's played outside also left and right he worked a little bit that's sixty. He's got a lot of of experience. Obviously playing -- also have a lot of experience playing in this system and I think Ortiz does foot that's versatility. As to where we can place. Some of the other players and -- good that there's."

[1:54:44]" The problem he he mentioned them. Adam Shepherd and a member that he expects to actually play in this game is that realistic."

[1:54:55]" thought it was just see how it goes. That's especially."

[1:55:02]" him in all the things you mentioned about -- you would've known in August or July or September or so so why now with the --"

[1:55:10]" It was a very the first opportunity we have. To get something done I've talked to. Different times and of course this season but this the first time. Really have a chance -- to do something so. We did."

[1:55:25]" That you stand there at -- Process was coming to a close on Monday that it was the Jets and the Patriots coming down to -- her -- I guess seven per securitized services."

[1:55:41]" Really sure what -- Interest close or if there was an interest I was. Good person from our perspective."

[1:55:54]" You talk a little bit about as the first team to face Matt Cassel twice. What are some of the differences that you've seen now facing him and the first thing."

[1:56:06]" That there really is just the first -- played electric. A really good job and and all the games he's played. He went from. Really in activities to. Tremendous attitude to have some of the biggest role. He could possibly have -- as these games reps and game came Knicks game. To -- game experience. I think is called for -- level it is so efficiency running offense. -- have all groups."

[1:56:38]" Do you feel -- here he fits his ground since that second game. Yeah."

[1:56:45]" If there's been a lot of things that really like to vote. What we've been able to do defensively. And I'm really pleased -- is. Feel all execution level of the different game plan. Defenses that we hadn't placed now there's still a lot of things we we need to prove. But that's how some sort of assist fours -- and the a lot of that we've been able to generate just enough proximity first blood. More -- Rick dutrow -- a three man format rosters. Whatever the case may be at an ability to. Determine all of reduced social. Because the turnover ratio. Is the biggest -- football."

[1:57:35]" What is Chris Jenkins man UN FC yeah."

[1:57:39]" Chris is that has done an excellent job. Big man he's physical. But what's been outstanding is is. Commitment Jets playing the technique and never having any exposure to a certain fourteen cents. Weather being college or pro football. Sometimes that transition take a little bit more time but he he's worked -- he's really tries to. Understand how. The blocking schemes are going to work I think he's done a good job or bad and he also. Has just. Very good finish for guys his size. And that's water things have stood out what I was so. On the table war and actually looked at."

[1:58:27]" You know anything from the Patriots deep sense in terms of some. Then doing more maybe this year with different packages on a week to week -- sisters that's sort of been. The norm for them in the time you've sort of game plan against them."

[1:58:43]" It's it's better than normal for. All there have been years that I. Work we've we've built whether it be here at the Jets for three years that are -- six years its game plan specific and it's sad that -- strikes and take those away it's identifying weaknesses. And -- ailment that also placing your team's strengths. So it's going to be solved. There's going to be. Very. Specific roles -- I would just -- and that I make very many mistakes."