Patriots Playbook - 11/12/2008

Wed, 12 Nov 2008

Listen to this edition of Patriots Playbook as John Rookie is joined by Mike Parente and Erik Scalavino from Patriots Football Weekly to discuss the upcoming Thursday night Patriots game against the Jets. Plus, Russel Baxter from ESPN calls in and Patriots Today's Brian Lowe swings by the studio in the second hour to talk Patriots. We'll also replay Jets head coach Eric Mangini's conference call with the New England media.

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Play from 0:40[0:40]" All right welcome the Patriots playbook on the guest host Mike currently with the takeover -- part it is. Eric you know this is an extension at PFW in progress we've seen two damn post it -- the last two hours. -- used to it and get enough we don't go away I have no idea what the hell gonna talk about for an hour because we just -- every little tired topic. Chick fillet particularized cripples that we have -- different for me at the end coming up and don't you. -- wouldn't do anything on for an hour. We can -- the music. Q while. -- I I just yet I know I mean request and now we go back again. The long a song you know it is it's that have. In any real low at an early filmed on a putt from two minutes I don't eat all over the long then but I don't have that much today. But I am elated authors in America on line not to the Niedermayer Prado is fighting for."

Play from 1:39[1:39]" Which is that the dollar is the downtown Providence I'm so proud of -- guys that are available the only two people the world according Andy -- He's a great guy like authenticated ignorant idiot anyway. While there -- and I'm glad -- on our site yet if you win the next two. Author Erica yeah. It is does he really because you'd be the first rally in the world champion beneath that yeah the big deal -- ago. I'm a big -- you've heard. In the ninety's early ninety's -- New. Hampshire. Who cares -- New Hampshire or violence and -- long time but it's a small they. Are probably used to be a pretty good Mecca box Rocky Marciano fought you know at times. And good graduates and good but c'mon Providence he should years injuries before beating periods of street before -- later on this I'm -- needed them. Is on edge on them and you know Fred Kirsch a lot of pressure you know I'll want to completely bomb like -- did yesterday we completely bomb that and I value or I -- I did no such. -- I guess if you are the fruit before it was. You were there and ship old and you get a Titanic -- I heard the debate Psycho with the talent around and I use that are closely related it. You know so picked up considerably in the second -- In terms of anger in -- the phone. Yeah anger that opened a one anger people like anger people respond to me why they don't play means so it's great so it works out well the way. I kind of generate some. Talking point of launching -- well. You -- yours yours does. Sending it here the broadcast sports. Notes -- my given an inch here broadcast -- channel launching pads today and time today. I think there is an an you'd think Brett Favre to throw it and he's going to. I'll break his ankle and throw pass between his way and all the update you at this the only place that pigeonholed them as in this at this point in his career I expect that out of him more than I expect him to have a solid. Game only the -- at -- was I mean come on that that was a fluke and you know. Get a game -- a fluke but isn't playing well not a -- he had a pretty video -- you know he had an okay year last year which. In the okay okay here in the context of the three or four years prior to that. Was it was a miracle because he was I gonna make it better as he can't -- by comparison better than okay. I was noticing a trend with him in the last five or so years he has it is his skills have diminished. --"

Play from 4:20[4:20]" Question it goes diminish any -- or erratic 72 years old. And I mean you gotta give them credit for coming -- that aren't taken into the end I don't you know granted he gave the end -- championship away in overtime the biggest games he had last year he played our -- 100% correct and older -- this is a bit. So I don't expect him to have that England -- a different team and eat as I had this team personnel around him and I think. I think they've made more a commitment to run the football in Green -- certainly did last year is going to trying grant life. -- Jones going to work or last week big big game against Seattle they'll Lewis -- Sunday Hoya and I think -- got very big game against China that it and while. Does he could barely beat him by a touchdown only -- Take anything from that -- victory they beat him by 44 point started getting him the -- the biggest. When margin in Jets this tree by her which really surprised me and a that only that a surprise because I always think that every team beat somebody by 55 at some point in the league buried it and not that big margin of -- I can think. But you know I think they've made more of a commitment to run the football and try to cut down on our day and when he's at a position where its ball control offense and it cut the lead. He's not going to do as many stupid thing now you're theory of the over under on to pick he said he article over I think we'll have upper decks. But I think. He'll be eating because if he does. -- because it's the fourth quarter to merit goat he's -- in the Balkans it down by twenty non not I'm and that they'll happen in the second or like the over the course over the majority of the -- and normal spot. -- kind of pass rush plan they have for him now I don't know can you're really. And the dogs at the Brett Favre you everything he can throw him I think this stretch last couple weeks Eric. Is more beneficial at your front three do all the work -- with -- on and that's why it certainly there'll first round pick -- that's what they get paid to do. Okay and not just setting the tone of the line of scrimmage but not -- there -- to be into Award has had two big games are grown now I think he's making a lot of plays. Seven tackles I think on Sunday against Buffalo in the -- well yeah. And Seymour had another team I had another taxi to the guys make plays. And they're keeping everything in front of him and I dropped everybody else -- eight men back there you you have to like 82 linebackers three linebackers nickel. By the back. Playing deep take away everything deep keep everything in front and that's the way I think you have to be far too."

Play from 6:51[6:51]" And we've been seeing a lot more lately of Mayo dropping back into pass coverage although he did get a very close the second Trent Edwards in that game. This past Sunday. So it was good to see him get a little bit of a pass rush -- but he's been playing a little bit more back yet lately and I think that. Plays into what you're Duke which -- thing Mike about. Send a three. That's their job. Maybe bring everybody back a little bit and then in spots pick your spots when you won it when you want to hit Favre or whoever the quarterback is where they're playing that week. With the blitz and I think that's that worked out for them and again you know as we've seen -- and I think he's acquitted himself pretty well and Pasco."

Play from 7:32[7:32]" The obvious spots and the dog would be 33. And fourth in Italy can do that. Or even that -- to make plays on first and second down which is where the front three comes. In off the Jones on person and you up for a loss three. Nigerian business you have an opportunity at some point in the series to go after our. And need for it to the -- second and five if it's third and two. You know -- the -- them ten times that you think is going to happen. He's a ten pound McKnight. And that -- it and mystery. By the we're breaking news Joe Madden and Aleman the surprise -- L manager of the year I think Joe man's life to a -- it is. I think Baldelli played enough in the post season every time Baldelli played -- game tying homer in the clinching game at a time Baldelli -- It putting Gabe Gross Gabe Gross up that everything we got into it and you'll grow. Could Enron and -- couldn't field couldn't hit. The third -- guy down only that but the -- on play. Hopefully he'll learn and they you know at that that's a deserving Award him. -- and they did a great job this year they beat the Red Sox can't produce them and that it authority -- knows it is that was you know. Again it's totally. Open or are we four rings to. Are you know winning 81 games take it into the playoffs. And again wiped out yet I'm all right this -- to mention the there's that anger we talked about opposition has. I'm glad. A lot of different -- at the evil we've lived the last eight years among Yankee fans and management of the bullpen all the crap that he does in game. And he -- scratching at -- They could beat the Phillies on opens and the Dodgers while. Probably 95. Now. There that Torre got there in there with a well then. I see -- do it yet they were they where they -- David missing until they what they were missing was created for an RBI man of our generation and Manny Ramirez. It was honoring before they trade Ramirez. Well that's you know that is. -- it MLB -- dot com. We cover all we -- everything in my thoughts and NBA. Yeah I don't know boxing the New York and baker bunkers -- blockers they're tough -- I think Gary Williams by the way. Yeah did you -- we didn't play. Tony Parker -- longer area there yeah in play in -- a -- parents -- I don't know normally you know what. Able crap from the -- there there. -- initially. -- isn't there right but nowadays there's a lousy that it cleaners and they'll. Football game on there on the you know pretty good yeah I'm. -- on -- I mean first game of the year and he's very well I go back lap one in this one and when the three big games the AFC's."

Play from 10:31[10:31]" plan at all. Back to back to back and first place is on the line it was on the line last week they did their job going to be on the line this week. I think they're going to do the job next week in Miami is going to be a very talent won because they get their their butt handed to them by Miami the first time -- now they're going on there but. I don't expect him to get fooled by that while camping again. Time because other teams have tried it on them in spot. And then. And they've been able to snuff in rated snuff it out and an obvious in Miami team that runs that the best -- a personal thing introduce it. But I don't think they're going to get fooled by it again."

Play from 11:05[11:05]" They're doing it still working on the green and had a couple we -- quiet. And then last week we talked -- a little bit on the last you know but at the the wildcats Ronnie Brown handoff to Ricky Williams and had a flea flicker who threw the pass of the flea flicker Pennington okay court. Under the threat right owning a -- with a hand off to my it was either way desert but they have eight tossed it back the -- in the Indian head. The statue of liberty play or something really. Not always Colorado really got to bring it back the fumble or move. The fumble or -- nicely but probably for the between -- play. But I think yet. Other teams have copied it -- really if he's into it with you that this is a copycat league season. Kansas Federer on the -- And ovals halting the Giants haven't tried it yet thank god does it need to resort to giving him pump people. But I think the teams that aren't as good. Are trying to do -- in the -- you can -- going to try something went out."

Play from 12:11[12:11]" I mean if it worked so well for Miami and if you have the personality -- can do want to have another element that teams have to prepare for. I guess but it's not every in the they're not properly no urine that brought you need to -- they endure properly Indy. Maryland I I want to ask bill about that next week actually when when I was colon got back in the -- that's me the plate pretty up as an accident two option. Planes that are three option play his ball was either going to throw the ball orders in front of the himself and most just Braylon himself. You put another back behind there now you think art could be fake it that you know could be handed off Greek -- and -- is going to throw it Andromeda himself. Yeah you definitely need a personal to do and you know if Morris is back or even if you put beat BJ GE as he's calling himself now. He enjoyed Reggie JG well Lincoln and Jarvis Green Ellis do a lot of letters spell then he shortened up or others."

Play from 13:10[13:10]" Whatever doric you know I he's -- complementary back -- you had to have to have an academic the lockout worked it's going to be because otherwise the Blazers on him blown up which it did against the Colts game and it wasn't a critical play that. Cost me out of play calls in the game but. There they try to -- and the baggage -- a little bit in and pull a rabbit out of a hat and it didn't work out so well but. You're right I -- it's it. Worthwhile to give it a shot at."

Play from 13:35[13:35]" Andy you know reminds me of wide. Eyes that say this. Years ago was I didn't understand why -- and goal line situations pro teams didn't have. A small package of plays that were options. You know like run the option right here we have two backs in there of the quarterback. Take that take the pitching or not every quarterback good running quarterback thing but if you have that person -- like like like the Jets for a have a Brad Smith. Right right you get -- a goal line situation a goal to go situation one. Take out your normal quarterback put brad Smith and there have a couple of running backs and you've got an option. And you know not to have pro offense go back to the option because I hated the option as as a as a base offense but when you're a short yardage situation why not."

Play from 14:21[14:21]" Yes I guess my thing is that when you have formation it it. Kind of predictable -- it like you know it's not. All teams and brought -- who you know again. -- I don't know medium to being naive but he Ronnie Brown line up behind I don't think there comes off yet. And it works every time. -- like you said. A lot of good running quarterback -- league plus the quarterback gets -- not -- out of money option play. These are more times than not he's got a hit at that a -- last minute you get creamed. And I think it is our risk it is so protective of quarterback lead -- what you guys taken. Why -- ten more hit per -- is already got a week."

Play from 15:03[15:03]" Well that's why I'm driving battle everything -- you and you take your normal quarterback out there and put. A wide receiver who used to play quarterback or or running back who can who can run the play or backup quarterback who has some experience doing that somebody on the team. Has had experience running an option whether it was in college and high school. You've got to have somebody on your team who is capable of doing that every team has won yet your your soul is saying it's just the package of players not not an entire offense is all you're doing here obviously sure who Sammy Morris actually told me he was a quarterback in high and high school. So I don't know if it was an option quarter what it's like guys like as -- cornerback will do that but a lot of wide receivers that you write good athletes but. We're going to be pro level quarterback to use their beat for the position Drew Bennett of Tennessee or was he was St. Louis now -- where he was a quarterback do you -- I do feel like -- is easily on them like I leading up there my ticket. And not -- to dollar."

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Play from 16:07[16:07]" awake and I carry that it is it W progress this if you look at it the out and played a lot out there like. But once in a blue moon thing you know Miami is proved otherwise. But I want to hit when I -- I want to you have no idea coming not aware thinking. I got a hundred at some point will be ready for I wanted to completely not know and that's what made the week three victory for the for the Dolphins though. I guess if you're in Miami and that's fine as they've -- had no clue I was going. They were not eat at home on the -- reckon that well I really yeah I I'm when they were expecting now they are. Right and now so is everybody else that plays Miami -- a degree the whole league. Playing anybody is thinking okay this may try to copy that is that if it sort of the values it. But they want to do I get into the working at look at doing what you said Rick Ewing scored that fifty or -- yeah -- proven that theory wrong that you can't do it 8000 times a year and have work as."

Play from 17:08[17:08]" Unless they're doing it work unless they're doing it where. At the very last second they're getting into that formation -- Pennington runs outs of the sideline. And they don't have the personnel on defense to combat it may be their doing it. You know since they've -- settle -- kind of play it certainly is -- the -- the -- that we -- right and -- to -- the -- run -- route to -- I mean it's an -- to -- on offense -- not automatically. -- defend when -- yeah you're -- as a -- is definitely wrong place on -- there -- both Indian and somebody -- I don't think it's okay. Because if you leave him alone you're going to throw the ball -- modestly even if the only -- 1015 yards that. Probably going to be enough for the first down I wonder -- every time -- you know third and twenty."

Play from 17:59[17:59]" Yes how can. -- wouldn't even going to do based on their overall in other words. You Matt Cassel lineup why do you think there's no way this -- him the ball here. We can narrow it down wanting they're not going to do in this crazy. You know they can't afford another injury accord great. If you're reporting public you know what. -- put a body on cap a little but. You know my quarrel cutback -- when he runs he did not going to throw the ball I just wonder if you get back in the opportunity to defend everything when they -- lined up. What is -- you think of them ever thrown at the spot that."

Play from 18:35[18:35]" say that if you run it enough times. And don't throw it to cast right you increase the likelihood that germs are going to throw it to Cassel because teams are going to get into -- all the to a sent security a heck of -- I think that it's -- Garcia and -- and you got your corner looking into the backfield instead of focusing on the quarterback whose line of a wide receiver and all of a sudden. Perfect example in 2001 when Miami came to new England and played the Patriots Brady was starting. And he did that the little fake. Snap and it went a -- he went over to his right side Brady did a little. Girl went out to the far side and -- turnaround and threw it across the field. Brady caught it for like a twenty yard gain downfield nobody thought coming."

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