PFW in Progress - 11/13/2008

Thu, 13 Nov 2008

Listen to this gameday edition of PFW in Progress as we break down all of the week 11 games and offer our picks. We discuss all the matchups heading into tonight's game against the Jets. Plus, a continued discussion on Ty Law's decision to sign with the Jets.

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Play from 23:35[23:35] ..." and rightly so but. He's the leading tackler an -- guy and David Bowens mentioned you earlier in the week -- he's never played linebacker for the first three career starts and and he did okay"...

Play from 26:03[26:03] ..." that's why those are no tackles like will work -- in -- Ted Washington 1 arguable tomorrow because you can never take them one. You know. -- that Randy mark of the offensive lineman and is"...

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Play from 1:20[1:20]" Game day Gillette Stadium and here we are getting ready for the jet game the gang's all here. And we're ready for a big show here PFW in progress. It's Hugo but today it yet Patriots Thursday night football with the first real -- we've ever. Oprah that that I do an open game day have a very good. It then I'm done now. We'll point again. The -- given him -- that we're -- yet. On might because it was one and let -- on my. Mind under the bus though it's a big game we got pick today. Yet you don't huge huge two days though. Because that. Everyone. On that even Eric I need headphones on by the way you are Broken Arrow never went out there used to wonder later."

Play from 2:16[2:16]" A Middle East ago today just side to wandering in for work later to -- what I am going to be here till two in the mornings I was meant so much. So what they would come in that early to. -- don't promote pound and my first order he would it's different -- which meant I -- go to my first order of business however is going to be. From the second day in a -- friend. An apology for me to you. Because you said you had a problem with Ty Law. Yesterday and we talked about little and that guy I don't really have a big problem and I know what I lost all about it at the money whoever -- and the most money. That's where he goes well according to the Boston Herald today. Calgary you'd report that -- lots of a veteran minimum deal with the pro rated version of this veteran minimum therefore. If it's all vote veteran minimum he could've taken anyone's veteran minimum. If he says he was really that close to signing here lighted."

Play from 3:11[3:11]" I agree with that now what deal and again second aero my apologies to -- but he yeah. Accepted but here's what I I have to guess what I'm speculating went through the mine to Ty Law. You know all the teams are pretty much you know offering. Which is a veteran minimum but I'm looking at the pitcher in the -- All I've done for you. You know super Bulls in all the work you know how can you just mean the Patriots. To be offering me more. And I think it was a pride in him and although he doesn't want to get is that that up right now that white. Go with the you know. Wouldn't at this point in your career you want to. You were the team that's more likely get a to a Super Bowl well right now -- like that that has yet of he might believe I'll legalize the obligated to come here. And there was followed you regularly gimmick it's such an -- he wouldn't come here. But it 32 other teams in the league now does not only three people were only -- Richard won. It was only did three too well according to what he set I was I'm points in. -- in a -- you know parity and build up those three teams all are offering about the same amount of money. You would think. You know oh coming back to your hands -- adored him -- opportunities. In the marketplace. Why not go to go back -- on being here. Right that that's his decision at the pin and -- public you know was very well I love the Patriots although well then I'm -- and it's something he -- want to say well I think I think that is. That's out of our ultimate team that I've done so -- war -- we are even better game. That's what I think maybe that might not want him. From the -- But I'm not going to look at that from the team that I've done -- Of course I think the team for him to be."

Play from 5:05[5:05]" But isn't it plausible that he just think -- Jets have a better chance of going to post season going deeper into the playoffs. There plausible I mean you can look at that on paper and say yeah castles playing well and I know they're tied right now but when it comes down to I think that gets the better team. Even -- said that. And I think you can make that argument that."

Play from 5:23[5:23]" Right he's not going to come out publicly they -- Eric Wright and and you could make that argument but hey I mean. I think you know I loved having the ego that he has might think all -- that -- the -- the big they have they -- shore up that secondary. Dole has just could achieve that Jack on the guy I think you can argue -- right he would get all that he would get all the credit it to pay he came in here. In the pitchers make a player a goatee. How credit would be given that I thought I -- he played pretty well."

Play from 5:55[5:55]" I Connecticut -- and -- yeah is that going to get a chance to really be that -- get more -- I don't know for sure about that they're not happy with the other quarterbacks where. Cutting a guy that I don't Oregon are guys that at. Right ankle won't. Room temperature water particular topic as my -- over the world -- is -- could get. Them. This man that is a necessity on the show we were just that a legitimate football -- admit that didn't. But not how but it if it was the four of us doing it without Fred it would it would I wouldn't war. He have a -- I'm needing to Oakland. These are making me -- SP -- The number of rules in a Mexican food without Oden can answer that one you know Buffalo to compete at the -- both right and I hopefully I don't agree on that rule hopefully won't Beltran right now that's -- Buffalo chicken pizza left that we've waited and."

Play from 7:04[7:04]" Getting back. I I I digress I just not always that we it's I think that you know I don't have any -- was ego move. I I you know I think that the team that I did what or over my career should be offering -- more -- the -- and -- I'm going to go with -- certainly has as big -- and that that might take. -- Now the other big news in all you should probably be apologize -- well about is that they'll come for you is the Boston Globe report out there today that says. Not fairly is -- out for the and that he and other -- check with the doctor today yes."

Play from 7:47[7:47]" That is accurate I -- itself. But I didn't say that you. It and what I broke his left for Oakland go right oh and by the way I want. We do what you gotta go that ever published report we want through in these that I want to play that well quick on the entry I want to stick with Datsyuk because Eric in Indy. Had it right from the start and how we had a right in the paper that initially a game it was the right. Which -- in -- pointed out at at at the time that he -- it was he would -- he was dangling in -- that -- other reported that -- if they reported that -- got us are available to every using his left arm and putting his right arm behind in my -- ago but he hurt his -- crowd does what specifically -- that might and I of that it's just my opinion and he has to have surgery I don't think he's -- and I -- had surgery it spreads -- impact with the -- thing to. Let's see what his role is going to be with the Jets in the next couple weeks could maybe that's the difference maybe. He was not as enchanted with how this team is going to use him as opposed to how the Jets plan on using him and that could be a factor too. I'm not suggesting he's going to be starting outside quarterback don't think that's going to happen don't think he is that at this stage in his career. But maybe there was a different role maybe he just like with the Jets who do with the more than what New England right."

Play from 9:00[9:00]" It could be a hall of reasons why he chose the -- that's my take my. You know what in the tip off what him saying it was close. All of the that close and come to the team that -- of that that Everett that closed the answer has to be bright -- other direct it but it. No hit every year the adored comics hero. Probably going to go in the hall -- they edit your career here it -- that. In one. And then the question is why. He thinks he go to -- ball I don't know world are speculating on the answer to that final went anywhere park. I hadn't that I guess could call me I would have told him that. --"

Play from 9:44[9:44]" Trouble but I think the other part you're talking about that he's going to go into the hall and all that. Is why he's seeing so many good things he knows he's going to be a Patriot when it's all said and done. And you don't want to burn that bridge and say they were mean to me or whatever amount down well that's why you just kind of I don't call like that but he should get good hearted to. -- I don't have any doubt at all though this team that -- I was going to that would that would -- he subject right now. I don't know problem that they'd been booed Johnny Damon. I mean I don't really -- No battery which isn't so. That's a little bit maybe a beer that particular New York right now yeah but it will -- New York it was -- Sweetest victory prison here. Delegitimize out of this. Yeah our web radio what Patriots dot com email address where Brady -- com owner of arrival at five with three. Seven or eight to. And long story on or I wasn't actually going to lead -- is their sentences on here they I was ready we have guys who aren't the authority of the told -- we should have on air. He. Taped the outside the well that was that was that -- So you know now that were on here that's that's. Now. I'm telling you drop expletives. Ballots today. No it was not go to -- name game is the game today. Media I'm a while while men on dark and go to open for twelve. Equally as his list of things he does not show and -- his locker room and thought -- was locker mean. What the weather like bringing these coal supposed to be. Glad win because it's always when it's raining now. No it wasn't -- Brinkley this morning at a major factor. -- is it better. It benefit the Jets Patriots. But he Penske look at. You Patriot. I -- is that the Patriots why I agree with Eric I think it and it's it's the Patriots because. If if you want to say that Favre is the better gunslinger. The nets closed down his ability to throw the ball in New England has been running the ball well lately and net. Gives them an opportunity to run the ball more don't plan -- doesn't matter to me anymore. Matt yeah take aim at every at bat whether I had to required as I've ever played it in bad weather conditions -- my -- or at least fifty years -- but might break my point is. If weather is a factor in the game not it's raining we -- out the windows -- what I think the question is if it's a factor. And the passing game limited does that favor I think it paper Patriots because they lose last in my mind. And the Jets I think both teams -- run the ball very well lately bolted to stop the run very well lately. But it putting and on one guy. I I think that more of the offense. Effort for the Jets would be expected and the up and for the -- I don't know -- well but I don't normally I don't know look at the Cavaliers don't Marvin Goodwin nice night just trust and I guess -- as everybody -- bad weather and I'm -- LB don't think as far as opera and picks and bad weather. Bad weather no is a lot easier to plane in bad weather rain. Well that's not true and that is an alternate and brought them all you get older and older and it feels it's not I I think it is the first well we have no idea what Matt Cassel threw the ball. No we don't ever done right we've never seen metal -- play it and whether I'm just I'm talking out your right -- and that's that's my whole I think the running -- the run defense I think that's all kind of a loss has Mike that they don't play. You know if both teams have to run the ball lot okay we'll see what happens but. My bottom line is Matt Cassel will have to drop back and throw some point even if you run the ball even if it's a three nothing game -- employees and at the drop back. And I just don't know what's going to happen when that I felt like Scarnecchia long time ago most -- overrated. It went right -- and is always totally. Rain out of it now is at the ankle as well. And is -- not really windy neither one of them really that much now. You know when the ball for the you know -- and in and stuff like that yet moderate in in wet conditions but. The always going to be I up on the ball it's just as hard to catch that is it is just regular. Let's grab hands and an elected ran out of all and then as it over the wall and oh. You know the quarterback. Boy but I. Completely away. Quarterback -- So. We can handle the -- fans but what marte. And -- here -- a fine job with Tito get. In cook it up with did you get it from -- strictly location. I -- ten more. Gravel they were bringing it up from. A very good job -- spreading out you know that the different places people go to that we. Nice job gentle way to blow a local -- no -- you -- to gender. Note no cookies easily put them in the back and forth -- that that. Chips. Like that I bags of chips but I'm afraid the -- again and Baltimore it's. Not like it or. I don't reach your muffins there moist. Our right is it. The opposite of India. -- had --"

Play from 15:28[15:28]" We we talked about Ty Law we talked a little bit about it on the -- that we still uncertain about his. -- short term future with the team so be able to come back at some point or he's going to be put on. What talk about the magazine in Iowa bring that up would you be willing fuel. What say that he's out for the regular season is it worth it -- are on the off chance that he might go to play in the last week. And and I think it would be an avid game. Can someone come in who's not on the roster right now -- on the rock I'm talking about. I'm coming from the practice. My Ohman come in you have to open up Iraq War and make -- different in the -- well I think they're playing guys this team who don't do anything to be put on I don't -- want to. You repeatedly wide variety of what is -- Eric Alexander why don't really think that's irrelevant because -- is your way I need a guy but there's -- Thomas and keeping Thomas and I -- Eric Alexander -- one of those -- as playing guys that."

Play from 16:32[16:32]" Team -- anything about six or seven weeks that. And you UN as usual these kinds of things get worked out over the the court time in the next three weeks you might lose to a three more guys that you have to replace."

Play from 16:45[16:45]" That's making that for you you know right now you might it would take a guy like break. Or Eric Alexander button three weeks you might need those because action could go out and before to go down -- you needed. Another tackle -- other so well in these things and get worked out an and I did a little research -- one thing that we talked about yesterday. They don't always put guys and I immediately anymore it was about a month last year before -- nine with three and a half weeks. From the time he got hurt against Dallas him early to mid October early outlaw figure it was early -- I I I don't part of it I assume that was part of it but all -- that'll probably weigh their options. That was almost them I don't think it's a -- a -- the final tomorrow. A lot of those guys were talking about putting and I are two or even if you cut a certain guy. If they needed a Wesley Britt in four weeks he's probably going to be available -- And -- got good points so that you even have to -- me just cut the guy let him sit around for weeks. Yeah out with with -- item item. He's -- don't want IR someone that you could write they're playing guys that were available and they available for five weeks you probably and accurately and it. So you don't necessarily have to put Thomas and are you could just take away some real."

Play from 18:00[18:00]" And what -- though. Putting. That -- It -- you know. We don't want to wait for the -- come -- we need to make them will now. But in getting them. I don't think there's an argument outside -- too important an every down defensive player on. What you know. Tonight. -- mean if -- disaster. And they. Find out that hey we don't have guys on the roster that we have the find out -- there ops in my team that. Rosevelt Colvin -- finds somebody somewhere I graduated in in -- but my point is either way you can make that move you can make another. With the group whatever that all of -- think -- agricultural -- adding. I don't want to -- adding three guys that that are. Definitely out of pitchers for you. How many -- you would keep open. You don't have those Eric Alexander and Shawn Crable were here earlier did nothing here that's when it. Shawn Crable was inactive for the first what five games Danny showed up with a shin injury two weeks later was out. -- right there -- out a roster spot that was -- Google year. Like you didn't use that in retrospect yeah but he do you think -- it -- it was an active roster right now he be useless but they would use. I don't I'm not have been a B I guess it really or whatever it may be I think that probably isn't some -- I I would I would view that the amount. -- and -- yeah. A spot I mean I don't know I've seen him do nothing so. -- no idea. All right I just think if there's any chance you wait because I think he's that much of a key player on the -- If you can't take it as -- gotta get there I agree -- any but I think the key to that is if there's -- not at this chance that he could play at the you can wait. Mica said that decision might be made for the next couple. Our web radio -- dot com email address."

Play from 20:09[20:09]" We have been here. I don't make a hard drive Escobar right now. Good Christmas present and you want to he had opened up the Patriots football weekly -- well -- in the double truck we call in the red. Though. In the industry. But it Christmas. That's awaited reader and has a different you know magazine -- has a different meaning. Matter don't you -- and he got a mouthful I don't like here but reflecting on you Paul. Going back in time. Those awful. At and it's it's game day on and I'm poked -- you know artistic. -- but. I'm thinking about later that about the game all of the -- you know he's -- little did. We with a I've had a friend I'm your friend as the music composer. -- the of course -- have any formal music -- yes he does. Hewitt the school. Great stuff. -- What do you. -- Of this game we have to talk. What are the top. And come on lately and he can. What type of been having. You know -- the last week are. Well."

Play from 21:42[21:42]" Thought he ran pretty well against the Patriot and the -- in the first meeting to Patriot offense got a two score lead and took them out of the game and fourth quarter but he was on his way to a hundred yard game. Seventeen for seventy. And you know the story is that everyone's been trying to write this week has been on the other -- Chris Jenkins. And how he's been in play you know plugging up the middle for the Jets the fans and and their rush defense so. That could play a part tonight through because New England has been running the ball so well another. Not a facing a team that's been stopping the run pretty well we'll see which one is. More effective."

Play from 22:17[22:17]" He had to it's a little time to learn tackle -- You know cult hero technique whatever they -- Continuity -- the Carolina played 342. I don't know about forever but not -- not when the Patriots tournament Super -- you know I think capers might have played on 34 when he was Carolina coach okay -- it yet I don't -- what I was -- yeah had a -- they had that defense -- with -- Brentson Buckner. And now. -- guy that goes from -- Is -- that's right Mike -- and Darius -- the I mean what has talent came Italy K coach were we fourteen probably. Yeah that was back with Kevin Greene in the -- I think David and report that you -- with our lineup but I think that was probably would. I. Always. It'll get to the picks later I don't want to go around and people what they thought."

Play from 23:14[23:14]" Think that that's a good. I think one of the interesting things here is who who is able to fill their their vacant linebackers by better because I think. David Harris and inactive or no one's really talked about that all week but. I think the Patriots have a chance to me in hand on the ground with their best -- run stopper out I mean -- Jenkins gets all the attention and rightly so but. He's the leading tackler an -- guy and David Bowens mentioned you earlier in the week -- he's never played linebacker for the first three career starts and and he did okay you -- a mistake early in the game against Buffalo. And any kind of overcame that. And then he was okay you know last week obviously everything was good for the audience to the Patriots go at that and anymore he has shot the plane. Is questionable."

Play from 24:03[24:03]" was on the field last week there's no reason not to believe it won't be at least -- game time decision this week. It was warm up last week and that's obviously good depth in the right direction it's it's. Get back to the polls and -- into that both linebacker -- in the running game that turned to a running game battle. Are behind the other the other team's best defender. Or one that Richard Seymour has been playing very well played here would should be behind Richard Seymour on that side. David Harris played right behind Chris Jenkins -- sort of can -- is that covered up by the fact that you have your best. Front lineman playing in front of that guy is that yearwood combo with Richard Seymour better than Bowens would Jenkins and that is an interesting. Is an -- kind of back and forth battle."

Play from 24:48[24:48]" Oh a guy like Aaron -- in the -- probably be able to make him. You know with the screen play. In with a play action you know because that's where inexperienced shall the most you know. Why. So I can remember Willie McGinest when he. -- that green every time cola and quarterback with -- up. At. And that I would have when he aren't behind and then later fine in what went ballots that year he made it home. You know but it was a moment lost out. -- but but quickly without you know those type things positively you know you can take advantage of him but oh what -- You know are out there appear -- though can be negated if you're nose tackles killings and Chris Jenkins is. Owning him -- and I think of that matchup furcal. Opened gives up lord only knows how much weight I'm not going to use the media -- that ankle and might be inflated. Upwards -- and happy the double down and that's what every but I know every 34 nose all the you know yes the more you get into that the more chances are that you're letting Chris Jenkins well I don't know if you -- that's why reported no that's exactly why though he's very -- air under -- that's why those are no tackles like will work -- in -- Ted Washington 1 arguable tomorrow because you can never take them one. You know. -- that Randy mark of the offensive lineman and is -- in his ability is Stephen -- on the right side at least I mean Colin Jenkins I'll take that matchup for the Patriots any day but those other two. Yeah I might take the one guy on those -- I think you're going to see a lot more. Task of rolling out a little bit more yeah a little bit and Lawrence offensive plays blow a little bit rather that rate dropped you know. Create a pocket because they think. Not going to be good for the Patriots I think you got it. Get guys out if there are pretty good you write that might be away someone negate to get get out of the pocket. You know whether you know setting up the green or rollout pass or whatever the callable at -- Times but but to get tight end -- Actually the route he's looking for and a running all the kind of I kind of running him. Oh you know get get these guys -- get Steve Neal you know. Up pulling it he can he can play. You know kind of negate. That bush now that Jenkins going to get strip the medals no question Chris Jenkins that'll be running lights out. To push right at the."

Play from 27:24[27:24]" That'll be academically. And -- I think on the other side with. In a deal with the -- thomas' absence. Might jet and and -- we note exactly what bill does in terms of game planning and he'll change from week to week. -- he say it -- they're going to have a new personnel out there in different packages which runs on no huddle what if we can -- in you made this point in the weekend and it can using. To these guys when you got to -- a time out there every play so did is first on the economics and third conceivable. You have Jarvis Green to some of the things that there was Tom did on third down here what's the what's on the things that there was Thomas -- burst out Gary -- somewhere in the middle. You -- no huddle and it makes it hard for those different guys in our game and there's no doubt they have some plays and some formations drawn up to get here woods. What they perceive -- out of position you know out in the -- doing different things -- 'cause I don't think Pierre Woods want spent a lot of time. On two feet on and off the ball way out like I think he'll. Grow exposed -- this -- really good. Because on a short week yeah -- they take Mike Vrabel. It put him -- your earlier point Indy put him behind him. And have him do it it was thomas' role and had the other guys kind of feel. Could be. I mean that's going to be that the cat mouth as in other words just this game you think not -- or don't go --"

Play from 28:45[28:45]" I think both teams ago whatever they have out of the -- a huge game I think he had a lot of no huddle -- a lot of you know and you know. Daryl back field I'll let up whatever they have. You know wide receiver. Screens all kinds -- and don't be surprised at the while cut out of the out of the Jets -- that and hope they use that both for. The Dolphins -- and now they've seen you know that the Dolphins had success that -- Should -- wrinkle to. That is game. -- you know it's going to be a really good game I think NFL network lucked out. Are they screaming this on line is that accurate yet nfl.com. You can actually watch the game online with several camera angles you can use room camera. But -- the game at -- close to analyze the game and it fell. And that's always the question in New England were outside of the net the range we gonna get the game get go to take account because we're going to be featuring it leaking it right from our home page or go to pick dot com tonight. You don't have back to the TV or you don't have medical network where you are you can you can watch the game on a new computer. So but yeah. In all of what we're going to be doing the heck I'd ask ahead after I had some people who know Abbott be out in the road and they're looking the Patriots dot Moby. Get the updated score what will be doing after scoring play or would will be hosting the -- in the current score on -- on our mobile site. It happened here. How about doing shopping whatever it is you're not in front of any. You take. Get your shopping a pitcher places that are watching the game get the last following play in the current Goran Patriot got mold. Not only taken off. We regular you know a good amount of people that this."