PFW in Progress - 11/18/2008

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[1:00]" PFW in progress and the -- here at Gillette Stadium. Brady's word. Another big showdown AFC east I think almost a must win for the Patriots against the Dolphins is the most I will be talking about that we haven't had a it's obvious talk about."

[1:16]" The gains against the -- that happened Thursday night will recap that you thought about that. We've got a special gets his name is Barry icon he is very very active. Patriots fans right to -- clubs on the way co. Organized away trip the Patriots gave so he's going to commit how going to bring him -- little later we'll talk to him about what he's up to. -- he's brilliant ones that really important thing -- I was while again yeah make up there but. We have the lead off with that news. In truly sad news. The economy hit PFW in progress right between the in. Shock to everybody -- on Friday Gary -- Jackie. And my parents got laid off from the company. Oh it was not on today. Now for a lot of people into you know of course the only two it was. It was department wide but you know bars that show that major loss and -- And it was yeah -- show you know why I was and I forget forgive me but yes -- You know oh so fans did not get away because. They got wind of this via the media reports and yet the progress there was a poll as to who should be voted out. Eric -- eating an apple. A Eric is here but he's not the only guys are up ritual liar. Yeah so I'm assortment. You know not not fun not good. You know I feel for the people. You know the ones that lost their jobs and mark company but all over the -- is getting ridiculous every time you listen to the news on the way home. XYZ is cutting 10050. -- group if we that's an addition to another twenty that -- already laid off. 53000. People they stay in anchorman he can be reached at -- Getting out of control yeah. But I did in the Booth the and it's going to carry on he learned from the best -- and yep he's not a -- near try to -- properly for a solo well he's like. Check -- when he took over. We want and the ball off Sharon's idea a little confidence but also opened. Oh it was not a fun time that you accurately described -- but we'll move on. We have to you know whether or the choice we have a commitment to our listeners to provide them. Them Patriot radio content because they can't get it anywhere. No one else to. -- We are the only place where you can get actual analysis -- Patriots. And we're counting on that we're the only place you can get actually now that the Patriots -- mad yesterday and listening to your. Idea when all -- are showing I don't have a -- well done it my -- yeah that would I don't know what a -- great Dale Arnold but on Sunday kidney you know I am one of the permanent -- of that night -- you can get it."

[4:28]" The one that your -- in the after I don't responsibility of the USP. Beyond it and glad it was made in the point lead or -- that -- last year. You know the giant -- you don't know went after ten games had any idea that they would even make the playoffs which are all out -- right but that was really irritating my -- when the Super Bowl in in the oh okay. We don't know at this point but. That mean you can't have an opinion and called it look I think it would be tough because XY. In the because. They don't think that way because we don't know. -- it is apparent. Have a different opinion."

[5:14]" Is what might my point on that for first of all the Giants were something like six and two in the first half of the season last year and -- minutes of collapsing in the second half before resurrecting this season with a win in Buffalo. And that's why that's how it that's how I -- an old Tom Coughlin wear out because it had gone out right not because it was a ease and well don't tell me you know halfway through the season last you know what again Giants were even a playoff team absolutely you're playoff team collapsed down the stretch. And got it right it just in time that's what that's how it at all about but the other thing is. If we don't if we can't say anything until we know the way I was saying yesterday. Are you tell me that last year threats and we we couldn't hit a Patriots for the best in football right. Plate they -- the best in a football then. They aren't now there with a bastion of football 2007 now I don't -- one game of the best in a football in 2000 -- And it would have been in a football after ten weeks into now haven't and you could add that definitively that he -- today."

[6:15]" The whole -- dean if -- Sports Radio is to have that different opinions and got in in and -- and but. You know to him and every time somebody said they were concerned about make in the playoff. You know because of what ever. The answer was what you don't know. And that's. Not the right right I can say you're wrong because catch better and better and AB's in the -- but that would. The argument yards and what you don't know after -- week."

[6:45]" And then everybody that was not ready and everybody was Colin up giving examples in sightings of their players and things like that positive and negative. You know other team's players they -- with the -- and they would make these like. Under their breath comments friend especially it was we -- you know he he can cover. It who what what what what will Whitley we -- you know and and like he's mumbling kinda. Again Fred where's the analysis tell me okay we'll Matt Cassel. Has really developed over the last two months and east to the point now he can do indeed these things that he couldn't do it and and that's why beat the Patriots might be better in December than it happened to this point."

[7:24]" sound rational I I. I added on our TV show because somebody Matt Cassel has the lead in the players or any league. You know that he has the lead this team that 400 yards and three touchdowns on Thursday night and they law because that team and couldn't pull it out at the end they make the playoff in go in Wingate the player. To be because of that and some."

[7:50]" He called in yesterday what I heard instead I just think the secondary is a fatal flaw in the team anyway it's going to change and the first thing -- that was the -- well this week. Did -- now when did the Jets got every third down they needed I Brandon Meriweather bouncing off people he's trying to make tackles. They didn't play well they haven't played well on this -- saying he doesn't see any reason to believe. They're going to play well in six weeks they've got the colors of the ones that are driving the opinions right and beat the the patient is saying no they were good -- I don't mine. The guys that aren't you know. In the in the -- having the opinion is going to get better again but no other reason other than they are pretty well week I have family that I Capitol -- we got barring injury more injury. That we want to talk about it every -- you and we breakdown against oral agreement without the Patriot to win the game. But that was three -- now we were wrong but there was reasons why we felt. You know they could force them stakes from five he tubular -- football while he didn't -- any given credit -- that you know -- part of -- you know. So it's not like they're just and it Patriots going to win and we disagree with -- agree with them. -- some reasons why you think and again I think it's very rational suggest the way Matt Cassel is is progressing. Seemingly by the week. You can make a suggestion that. In December this is going to be pretty good right but maybe maybe they haven't been you know outstanding. September to now that they might be better and LaMont."

[9:21]" Having that I don't think un patriotic. Say that. You can get a good and we can't get better all -- Own actions but -- get a good looking at. But unless the other -- critical times. They're not going to win but if you make an extra play I mean I think opposing maybe get a point where he's now overcoming because they're right now they're the bad defense in the building offense. Is playing these games where it's neck and neck whether it Indy whether the Jets happen to lose so I get a point where they're making one more play. Then maybe they are good that is because Q the bottom line you -- that -- bottom line is the Patriots are competitive with every single team in the league and I I think -- buried in -- the east this week I think the Jets have a chance at tight you know I do to -- and I I think that. Now again -- I don't know -- I go under yeah I and the Jets are playing pretty well and they can make plays -- idea. Sooner or later I just think that -- gonna lose now that that I watched the highlight. Kerry Collins has great like he always has but you can watch quarterback -- he's ever going to get colon and that he made a proto -- to just engage in the front corner of the end zone where he just does he has that kind of power on the off chance -- an elbow -- a caught a whip but at which -- the ball with zip on the bottom had to the end and if he can continue to do that then okay I think the Titans have a chance to be very good go to all of that and it probably on them oh."

[10:53]" Had adequate Jeff Fisher is doing right now to kind of further your point about the Titans -- I think he recognized we're gonna win a division we're going to have the number one you know. At this point and I'd have to. You know collapsed to a catastrophic level to not do those things. And he recognized in order to win at all -- can't stand here and and asked him to throw the ball twenty times for a 150 yards for a week I have to kind of expand a little bit. The last wicket fell behind that was different by. In Chicago you know. Collins threw for about 300 yards that day when that the Bears completely shut down the Ron. Tough place on the road in November in Chicago not an easy play all the ball Ronnie did it very well. This week against Jacksonville you know again it fell behind fourteen we only had opened up but. What I thought was really impressive -- was they were up 1714 with -- four minutes left -- in. Jacksonville territory. With their deep -- field goal -- a look at pretty good up there in the last two minute. That's not the way efficient -- 39 yard touchdown pass he went for the throat and got it with the passing game and I think that's going to be -- their team is a little bit."

[12:00]" And -- that and that was it that was show me game for them they showed me a lot. You know the -- oval went up -- like. You know -- I had Jack and I thought this week yeah I thought it would be an -- I think Tennessee's much better team -- I was right up what you can you know that both in the same division. You know you're gonna get knocked off this team that's really warmed up -- up for the game and NL was now they know the personnel well and you know animals that put that jovial lot that game and I don't think -- you know I -- about -- that. If not this game. I don't know how important Indianapolis right they have coming is going to be but beyond that night at the schedule I mean when you guys talk a look at up but they have. Detroit a little they have a cup of they have to cut it it'll be important in -- they'll maybe for the -- Maybe might not be important and by that time. Well the Patriots lose. I'm glad AMD wins out until that game and I am IP and dungy mode -- you know what dungy with teams that don't matter. I don't do it this year probably not a not good enough probably I don't I don't mean beyond. I others are getting a -- well every actually eating -- every next election say for argument they could they have the number five seed locked up any of the top wild card blocked update in -- You know Bob Sanders. Dungy right now you know if Manning is hobbling a little bat in -- in -- maybe plays a quarter might that. And we know that's a dungy -- Hasn't Tennessee has the Jets. And at Detroit. Home against Cleveland at used. As a captain and I have two tough want to finish with Pittsburgh at home and add in. Oh. That Tyler and Baltimore and that -- Pittsburgh's steel I would be done I'll be done if they want but. Schedules not that tough now aren't put quotes around that until they get to Pittsburgh is one game to watch physical. And -- a game. At ten. Of the year -- I'm just getting back to the -- you know and you reference. We all got to the right answer for the game which was a close game I'd buy -- late late. But we could not have been more wrong and how we were going to get there in the first four plus quarters to get to the an enemy we we all I think we all picked. Like 24202320. All these close games but. We had no idea of the game I would -- typical route had their time. And yet we saw the end potential knock out tonight I was one of the best games I've ever it was a very very anti it was that kind of blah well. Slugging it out plays -- mistake it was classic game at the patrons at one week. We will be paid a great game to -- in his -- at one I personally think it was the greatest scene in the because of the weight back and forth and that the competitive level. An average the story lines castle. Where I couldn't have been further along -- work -- and metal beams of waiting out these medal means -- kind of moving ahead in. When he caught it with. Him fumble. Each. I couldn't believe he caught the ball and that of course the replay it was confirmed. And -- was confirmed via replay but go out. -- in today he into football league yeah cover shot. Confirms without a doubt what a great catch what a great shot that is on the cover up any kind and we know weak spot anyway by. It was like pads to deal waiting for the directories on like okay got the ball up an in bounds. And it was a really didn't do you would take sixteen yard line. It's going to be a bit of a -- he touched it hail -- it broke it cap what time is also want you to run coverage by cornerback -- a little longer mean Ty Law -- right there and he just got boxed out memory means he's got. Tyler got beat by better right. And play. And yeah I know I've been I say odd point really torch Ty Law and play but it'd it'd just. Or all game -- was a better athlete and player and and that's another in the long line of play that. Making -- yeah it and but. After being not doing much I mean a thing is everybody as you know Willie all whatever he didn't do much all game. And then when you needed and he was there he made the play I mean I think some people think they and -- history that he's not capable. You know what he shuts it down okay the third quarter I've been shut down all game I'm just going to take it away when you needed him once second ago he made great play yeah. If -- liking and he said it didn't go all the way you mean. There's there were a specific aspect that we talked about we said you know whichever team was able to run the ball better. Probably would win and you looked out on -- the Jets ran the ball reasonably well but in in the Jets stopped the Patriots run. And they won but that really never any -- it was irrelevant. You know I mean I know what did have sucked into it in the Patriots one dimension that certainly contributed there. Low production in getting into what they did in the second half but. It really the way to get my ball yeah I have a lot to do I think though that. The Thomas Jones runs -- arc is where my eight is now the game pretty well. You know -- and we know that that they stop the run well we know the Jets stop the run well it's going to come down to the quarterbacks but. It didn't come down Brett Favre didn't have to condemn it and it played a terrific game yet but he didn't have to do everything I had to hit it to a lot of long which will increase the opportunities. That that plays. And it was funny that defensively the Patriots couldn't stop and couldn't stop them. Stop stop stop them or chip up the -- whatever you think happened. In the third quarter stretch there and then couldn't stop to fourteen play drive to close it out it's. The whole roller coaster -- In a lot of different aspects of the game Kumble sides was very I mean it was and made his -- you guys after the game the game was tied three -- 2142143131. Double digit drives all three times touchdown touchdown in what -- it would have been attached do you want to know what I mean third team. You couldn't ask for a better. All right. I -- Paula at a -- punt that was session cap move into field goal range and now you win that game all that is what you're looking for right up until they get a yard reception they couldn't make that stop that. You know learn the Q that's the key right now for the -- that's going forward. Are they going to be it would get on the field on third and long that's been a problem Malia. Third down defense has been a problem while we're on third down public went out the most miraculous that I of the game 511 yards the Patriots on war. First half third down conversions never convert a third down after halftime only had four total up 511 yards and 31. To me that's one of those I know a testicle thing but yeah because I -- out of bounds right wreck but I find it amazing like. You went over the after halftime and came back from the -- put up all these yards -- never hurt. Right out got a lot to talk about. We're going to take a break we'll be right back."

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[22:31]" We've heard about Eric. Exploits on the football field. And he's heard about the upcoming game with a great but this getting ridiculous and he's dragging Kyle into these delusions of grandeur. Yes Eric we know it's not turn down that way this is."

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[23:27]" it feels more like Beavis and Butthead now back to the guy is. -- and Mary."

[23:35]" Are right back here web radio hate dot com email -- probably 57. Or eight Q is -- phone number. Web radio at pictures dot com email address talkin' about. Thursday's game. And during the break we all of started talking a little bit about the refereed. The week I thought it was tough week. Lot of."

[23:59]" You know -- We athlete and we have you know. We all know that Mike Pereira is gonna tell us everything was okay validated -- the eleven that's -- because there's been two times that I can tell you differently this year that. They've all admitted it. And and both occasions the -- involved and -- Julian week whatever it Diego and Denver in this week got green. Iraq specifically said I made a mistake but that's about it at all out of my girls are out here on they're trying to change the repay play policies you can review it twice out could go back to the Uggla comes up you know is another. You know -- go back to OK well it's not our fault of that rule we couldn't pick them anybody. -- though they're both there were a rule on top of the rule that you can't rule in the middle. We already know that they've done that the and it's talking about doing it again except for the playoff implement him before the playoffs it. But I the eleventh and there were some other questionable 1110 by the way first -- and I ever eleventh game was I don't get it. I just don't get it. How can you tell me there was never getting over 12000 games and three and the team scores late and goes too late but he couldn't go for too long. That they could in the old days in the AF really go for. But via and I don't implement them ready for them. They've taken away in the elementary they brought that maybe they did but I thought the old days ago you might you might be right on that. I know they implement 94. What about him. He's TI and all questions -- guy at a phone I don't like Christian."

[25:33]" Now it's on. You know which is talking about football similar to little locker room and it's got out. That's how I am actually and yeah that stuff was tougher it was tough for us and it is well and it is not the way to put a happy face on."

[25:52]" Yeah I mean that's you know of note if you totaled just push in the best Bayless and Tom. That game as far as I can't how to operate. That was tough from the comeback in. But he has to come out second half -- and you know give the offense up to Korea. Makes complete. I was stuff I mean that's that's that -- became just seems like actually is seen them make plays and not make mistakes and it's like the door in the opposite."

[26:18]" Well who was he more that says he's the games that we always on."

[26:21]" Yeah yes so he's. Watson fumble it and and an expert on the third sixteen and then it became casting drop and and and Thomas penalty in the the issue of the --"

[26:34]" Christian I want to ask you and I have read this on Friday. I came away from the two games feeling a little differently and not as good about this one as -- did the Indy won because the Indy won. I thought you were there and there were some uncharacteristic. Mistakes. The Gaffney drop the coaching errors -- the -- all -- things that you don't you can say well we won't do that next he'll catch it he won't hit him. This time. Twice when he needed a thought. They drove the ball down your bleep -- throats and I know they had a coverage mix up on the third and fifteen but. You had more chances twice they put fourteen play drives together you can do nothing about it. That left me feeling like when it is not -- if another team with a decent offense. Needs to move the ball then."

[27:21]" Yeah that's my team and I angry -- totally group I mean that's. You know Estes it's. -- use -- in this game I mean it especially and that one play. It's it's it's been treaty was in the air rushing the passer -- what people back this Harrison stop shall. You know -- it certainly Harrison -- he's tackle and I mean that that's you know it's all the little things you know -- but those little things go in or at an awful lot cyclist and look at the talent. As far as I'm concerned. To stop -- him male and -- that yep I mean I never thought catalog of 4300. Yard game of western 400 Jack -- Were expected I'm always going to have to Indy keeps in -- three -- game is going to have a -- pre game -- touched on him right. And it's you know the you really get it's it's not him. You know it really is it really that he has but this -- goal back. This call that calling back to Indy. In the championship game in the deep sense you know give up well points in the second half and you -- you know just sit there and it's seems like that's sort about it now."

[28:27]" was covered up right after talent but but I think Christians right because they really haven't had many. Stopped in situations where -- We need to stop here. That team after team in every time related jet game or. Our eyes I didn't. Well you have the -- edit the or I if I'd -- I didn't -- it didn't play well on defense there an adult -- The other teams got the ball -- the chance to win. We need to stop here and it in the times that you could s