PFW in Progress - 11/7/2006

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[1:36]" Sent to go to the bathroom welcome that would magically placed us all right welcome VFW progress. Boy we've got a lot -- talk about it stuck with Saddam and some of it's not good. I do you to a good you don't that's terrible I mean it's absolutely terrible. I've gotten over this loss I'm not dwelling on its -- the Internet so that it games ago but we've got a lot thought about doing a blunt -- and I'm kind of little surprised at how quickly. Fans -- gone from hey this is it would go to Miami to. It's the end of the world doesn't take long I'm not expect that usually me but I'm I'm not going to fall for that but will take all the emails we can web radio pictures dot com that's web radio pages dot com and we've got out of email."

[2:27]" Already there's there is something we need to be concerned well. In the last two seasons their foreign nine against teams with winning records that's -- problem you know I don't want to hear and do we trust. Before a nine against teams with winning records and has a problem you're supposed to be one of the best teams in the NFL I told you before the game but what I say I said they may be in trouble tonight because the vikings in the bagels -- We thought they were good when they played above the 500 football teams they played two teams this year that are going to."

[2:59]" A whole. And lost now its truly we have a lot to talk about here. You know you know me I've been saying since that game was in progress that what why aren't they using Moroni more -- I felt also won this match that they had and that field. And I don't care what the stats say 33 runs at 35 passes and in all that stuff they were never behind by that much where they had not yet about -- runs and I just think that Moroni was the guy that you just keep saying it."

[3:30]" Well -- the reason is because the bronco show that once you hit by the colts -- of fraud which is often by the way. That their secondary other than Bob Sanders in play in that game are very bad act like Mike bell was not a relief -- the guide to begin with was -- that -- that didn't yards after secondary players may contact with them. Now who's going to do that for the patriots Lawrence -- now Tony dungy says after the game Bob Sanders was so important that it three of his tackles for that admiralty from scoring. Now just think about that if he gave -- more -- may -- one or two of those times Bob Sanders is in there and Brody takes it to the house. So that I -- dungy is pretty much telling you all Bob Sanders was between him in the end zone and I just don't understand where he was in the second half -- beyond screenplay is that the passes out of the backfield runs I just don't get it."

[4:24]" You know I know one of Brady's his first obsession with Brady's fault. Couple others were hit by means you don't throw it out that my pool of workers bald vote on as well -- and the one Watson -- editors yeah too bad passes you know. Even though he shouldn't be thrown out that much when you have a guy like -- who's the mismatch. You know that sometimes they were running these fake reverse if you don't you. I hate to do I ever saw some emails came in France PFW I guess John Madden was say in the same thing on the air that you know you don't need to do all this against the colts you just. Gold right -- dad who you know down food you buy it by the fourth quarter these guys been so worn down if you had done that then it -- wrote because they couldn't cover -- ball. -- good point just before -- came down after the -- got interception they had the ball around midfield. That's like the Steelers last year they wanted to say you know -- We're going to put too tight ends and here it will -- to cram it down your freaking pro and take your manhood instead the patriots smoked in straight passes that's what I thought they it and Paul agreed he'd be pointed out. That they should -- opted out okay we got the ball bat we got momentum now stop us right now we're going to take it right that. Now I know you know you can make the argument that. Hey you know now's the time you go for the jugular you know you go for the quick strike -- there on their heels. You know and there's a case be made for that but not when you have such a mismatch in the running yet."

[5:57]" You know while. I can't do it anymore Fred I'm that it told the company line those receivers -- it may prove in big games at face up if you're gonna play the vikings in the bills that god pleasure. But you know -- where Chad Jackson. I know rookie receivers are blowing up all over the -- but to look at Demetrius Williams in Baltimore if you look at Jennings in Green Bay -- you calls didn't look he's kinda a weird exception but -- Antonio homes. They're on the field at least contributing. Ted Jackson's on the field like three plays -- game. So I mean we're -- we are easy called locate it open against good teams having this is the colts' secondary were talking about Gabriel was never open throughout the entire game I'm sorry I'm -- a toll on the line these receivers state it's it's it halfway through the season and I can tell yet -- when they play the better teams in the league. This don't have the same problems I know while some of the balls were blah blah -- those guys were open they were -- well I'm not going to go all the way there you can you can I think these guys are okay I think. The going to be okay but I just. Bottom line -- question on the questioning the play calling for receivers caught passes for the colts -- okay we will make a big deal all they had receivers caught passes. For political what was bad -- so that but it is okay let's go with this goes back to my point at the beginning of the year he got Tom Brady. -- in the prime of his career if you have room for older shake Caldwell inexcusable inexcusable. All right well."

[7:29]" said. You know. The penalties it was the bad showing for the patriots on Sunday night game. All around no excuses I mean a lot of people criticized in the wraps I think the -- make a difference I think the -- on the other side of the ball down the Troy brown called the worst whenever that is affecting it in anyway yet so that. That was a terrible call but it did affect what do you think the odds were in Vegas that you would get brownie and Harrison for taunting him right into. -- one was not as bad -- call as the brown but it was still a bad call might have been a -- call photos but that didn't have any effect the -- was equally the rest were equally bad on both sides of the ball but you know. Turning the ball over five times and I note to the passes were -- but just throw it up there that much -- that guy a guy like -- Moroni who was who was the mismatched. On either I knew -- edit and the word this as a result -- were -- Tuesday -- two weeks that is in the press -- during the -- we knew -- during -- day -- even when the game was still within reach and that one play where they look like a Chinese fired on them in the in the in the pages backfield. I turned you don't just give it all and let them run forget about all this stuff just give on the ball four carries the second half for -- World War here that's not that's not good enough it's not good I mean. I don't care about you saw how good they could tackle on the kick offs -- it was -- 40 -- every -- they can't -- if you -- early in the open field and he will make people -- over them you know so. I just. That that's my big you know that's but that's also why Tom I'm not down on this game I mean -- down on the game but I'm not -- in the season because doesn't matter what I saw was absolutely correct double its not."

[9:19]" But you know while -- rest of the season until they get to Jacksonville elicit that he was meaningful means nothing to me where they could do that in -- the alliance the -- the -- well that they need to beat the better teams I don't write it write -- you know from the start I told that there colonel challenger that their fraud well I I've been telling you that -- no NFC teams that are common here beat the patriots that I know. I'll wait -- Jacksonville now if that they gave me something I'll want to see him go beat Jacksonville that they -- the Jacksonville that's always three against the three best best teams that they played that doesn't bode well for the playoffs. It just doesn't know."

[9:54]" It it is something that going into the playoffs. Even if they beat Jackson will go in the playoffs because Jacksonville is not an end of season team. Jack we'll we'll be okay last year they came here in the playoffs the page but -- the Jacksonville is very good -- so they go in there and beat them that would be an impressive victory in my opinion okay but if they go when they're -- vendors say and they got dominated by the Broncos the -- Colts should've won that game -- because they had chances that mean they really shot themselves in the foot a budget times so they lost their home that's -- the most disappointing thing by the coaches thought play that well he's going to these losses are coming home this -- plates were times never."

[10:32]" And I you know I don't -- I now I now but again I I -- I think what we saw in the reasons why the patriots lost on Sunday there correct. Now correct -- right in the receivers are as good as a leverage get in Brady working with them is as good as it ever get maybe there are going to be problems maybe that actually go far this year but I just have to think that. -- you know. I know I don't know as much football as these guys the patriot coaches but I got to imagine that going to look at that moment in admit to themselves. We -- start -- Moroni the number one if you we've we've got to start getting him 30 carries the game right you know instead of what do -- 13 13 you know and that's just mean forget about the rookie wall he's had enough or policy -- by yes men carry in the low that's an idea of rest at this point. He's got to be the guy in Dillon will come in every once and a while Bree you know give yet -- to make the change it's going to happen next year anyway so just yet I think I think he's got to do that you know the other thing is. I think you've got to start work added Dave Thomas because of Gramm's going to continue to be hurt you can't just have Watson being the only item -- I knew every time they get the ball the they they go to watts Thomas -- way. It's like overthrow older not even close to a now maybe he's running the wrong route but the one ball that they would have went way out of balance of I think he got to start market Thomas into that it -- is great rookie class the leader Tom is that you accident mills -- but even up that he bombed a site in world. I don't -- you can't have Watson being the only tied an option I mean case -- point. You know you go into the game -- Dallas Clark all everyone knows Dallas Clark's name now I don't bet you detectives is. Technically not a tight end on the roster but he did yeah he's -- You know in. He came in and he caught a couple yeah -- that's -- from Dave Thomas bright he's got to be that other guy when everybody's focusing on that Watson in the receivers that springs open in Brady's got to look especially if Gramm's going to continue to be."

[12:44]" Hurt I'm just disappointed in the performance I really -- I mean does that bronco game you -- said well was during the Deion Branch thing. The passing game was generally clicking at that point but to come -- only another raid on national television at home -- really disappointed what would you feel better. For example if the patriots. Beat the colts and then laid an -- against the jets yeah audience and -- that gave up if you could say they were quite up right where I would feel better about yes I would you know. Now that is political outlook on the -- right and you get a fantasy to talk while it's great they are really though the patriots are better than -- right now the colts are better than the page rights and -- we put to bed bill ballot check finds a way to rattle patent because it more its wind in small let's be honest wind in small bed that's what reynolds' pay an inning because if you look throughout his career mostly games he's done well is he just has lost. And when I mean you know they they scored one touchdown in the second half the colts did. You know they were there were couple drives -- did not look good you know nobody know -- look at that picture it's no problem -- defense was stepping up they forced to -- you know enforcement area on the field what -- kind of the fences the defense was. Far below average let you missed the whole point the problem with the colts is that the reason maidens or more is because one of the colt's problem which could hurt them in the playoffs. They can't score in the red zone against good teams by running the football. And I'd like the patriots got inside depend against the colts they would score every time they wish him the ball off the colts got in and were forced a role in the and the patriots you know that they played well stop the run. That's right beat the colts can get into trouble is they can't stop the run and they can't run against good teams -- but I I don't really give I mean the patriots. I can't give their defense much credit I thought it was like garbage now I mean they did give up a lot of yards through the air but its patent handing it I'm not surprised that he's going to connect. With Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne. I'm not surprised by five point it's that they had the edge they would've scored more touchdowns -- they just don't we have a running game but I think that hurts them to the FBI honestly about the colts I'd rather have the ball 20 in the six. Because you got a better chance -- that he was score from the 20s and you do with the aid of the 40 actually yes. You know OK so and I tell you right now Rodney Harrison result for an extended period of time. That's not good any word on that there was a report from one of the smaller people of the eagle Tribune is that a paper there's a report he tours rotator -- I don't have I did not. Don't know anything about that -- to say and we'll all read to me out of Boston herald that they use management report out of eagle Tribune that he -- vote it up and we did the patriots signed safety Rashad baker off waivers from Minnesota they released -- span and then another one of the great draft -- Stevenson was released from the practice."

[15:40]" So that's a sign there that they need a little help in the safety positions so that it's Harrison will probably be out world little bit -- time anyway rotator cuff I know it's really bad injury in baseball. I don't know what. What the implications of a rotator cuff injury -- football I think there's different kinds of players. Electors different parts of the rotator -- but it depends on where you to -- so that would probably be deciding I mean for god make it tackles obviously using shoulder a voucher if it's just the pain thing or. You know you you just can't play with something like that as you know throwing the ball and it was a quarterback of the whole different thing I just don't know I don't know why but -- the patriots 11 bed care I think -- probably done. So it's a bad it's a tough injury takes time to -- yeah okay well Woolsey I mean that was huge not haven't Harrison out there because of his physical presence have -- gotten movement safety -- and put money Harrison and I mean it was a trickle down effect no doubt about it of course Wilson -- to begin with. So there's two new frontline guys again now let's bring up some that in in let me tell you something this is immediate threat has been bringing -- up. What are the heck is Teddy Bruschi. -- it was their I think he was third entertainment I don't care I'm talking about the eyeball to spread all we the I'll be the first -- about it. That I was totally wrong on two under -- he's playing good football I keep seeing Jamaican plays seen him in the back field. -- Tedy Bruschi anywhere yeah I really don't I think he's jumping on piles policy up to this point in mechanic could be the competition I would -- in the same thing. I just have this feeling that -- not playing that well that I would second guess myself they but. You know the giving -- points every week so you can have your inside linebacker not playing well and then have that good production value total -- we must be doing something right but then again last week you know Sunday night -- a lot of you know intermediate passes were Bruschi was trailing the play coming in late on the play. They did well against the run Bruschi was third that the attack I understand but that the offensive line missile Rican dominant. That it's going to be hard but I got -- all is that his fault separate skis fault that no way to say it get him -- but I -- say it is is that. When he has chances to make plays in the middle the field he's not make him I know I know so I mean I'm the one who you brought it yes I did his eyeball test that's it doesn't seem like he's as active. As he has been the last three or four years right you can tell say now is as quick as -- used to be you can see it but he's -- he's -- agency's argument that he's anticipating played in the -- it even for cable rivals that some tackles -- but he's there he's there he's in the area couldn not so much although he's become a little late but in a front -- Ty Warren Wilfork Seymour you could see where they're contributing you can see Chad Scott's contradictions you know you can see Ellis hops good or bad but you know what he's doing. Bruschi seems like he's being lost in the play it's that left the place and where was Bruschi -- you know the the second -- You know that the second nature that he has in the field instincts that he shown in the past. Much arms and that's a big deal because -- the mix and Bruce he's not playing well those are guys to have those instincts that your talking about that make big plays in big games in it and don't have either one album like we saw last year. You have problems stopping teams so I just open that it is mighty not understanding what's going on there that's making me think that someone who knows the game film in the game plan in his role of responsibility. -- every labels that not you're way off he's doing what we need him to do what he's doing well I'm hoping that's the case but again like you said the eyeball test. I don't -- I don't know I'm just I just don't have the information it we're not all gloom and do was one game but here's the bottom line three best teams in the AFC. Indianapolis Denver San Diego the patriots are always six against them the last two years that's a problem that is that a problem we we -- we we've made no bones about the fact when they were winning championships about their record against. Good play off blaze and that was one of the reasons why they were so good. If they're not going to beat these guys in who are they you know about going to play the -- playoffs so so it is not to be concerned with we have to be honest"

[20:14]" we can't. We can't look at through completely rose colored glasses but I'm I'm over this game I'm I'm looking ahead to the jets I know we have a lot to talk about a fans want to talk about it so we will do that web radio ad pages that come with email address by the way 5437482 is the phone number today was to players' day off didn't anything that you want to talk about before we get -- emails anything like that we mentioned the pose."

[20:45]" I I I think you know. I would still much rather had Adam Vinatieri in the -- we have because he missed a few -- too but it would was an easy one. But sanitary flat out choked the flat out joke I had never seen him joke that bad I mean -- I mean there's this one okay but the the second one which was he well he doesn't miss that a millionaire that was one that puts the game -- way. He flat out shall I can't I don't know I don't want to get emails later he's still sorry that we -- Adam go yes but he's 15 for 17 in your guy is seven for 11 and he missed an -- missed another easy one year so -- You know. But it was pretty amazing it was always amazing -- what is that about like that's the patriots if everything went right over it anyway I just figured that was you know by. You know definitely -- Adam manager Terry choked on Sunday night there's -- get around -- other thing I want to bring up Kevin Faulk. I mean that's now a couple times this year where. He's kinda let the you know why I've been defended them but I gotta be honestly I don't see him make in the contributions this year than he has in the past I know we've been doing good in -- returns so arguable that. But as far as offensively do you see him make him like the big catches that usually makes like on third downs like he has in the past battles yet again. I want to give -- all the Moroni he's my playmaker bumps and I other people are now taken some of the things that used to do and even when -- and catch the ball it's not for that 32 yard gain that used to -- it's like a six yard gain -- he he's definitely not played well this year some pocketed defendant because you know he's simply not playing well."

[22:26]" All right with get to some emails. In that get its web radio pages dot com a lot of lot of emails and tolerant wife -- they started yesterday -- you know pre emails for a shelves though we're going to try to get to a mall. Just trying to think is anything else going on. Now and before we get to the mail with the patriots you mentioned that the transaction didn't what did you just say it again Freddie"

[22:55]" two clean Rashad baker safety from the -- off waivers from Minnesota Vikings they released Carr's bomb. They've also released on Stephenson from the practice squad. So now I believe that lead to open spots on the practice squad. Meanwhile Oliver holy discussion passes Dallas well yes I am I'd rather be a page is at right now in the -- a lot of hot down there I'm just say you know you boy -- at a fullback and linebacker he got a special teams guy I. Crazy week in the NFL by the way I mean the players losing like they did mean that Miami that I've been telling you that the you know we've both said Miami would keep -- I pick Miami and the cover. But I'm still a little bit surprised and I and I and I mentioned is viewed now is as one of those things were Miami's going to -- on another role wander out of -- at all out of the one of those teams that when the pressures comic yet when -- game when now when the -- all the sort of makes -- record victories they could they could at a -- to watch. -- and in a backup quarterbacks playing well. You know cynical Williams Wallace Wallace last -- listen -- that you played okay that you mentioned last night's game people always ask -- Wiley College football over pro football last night's game is Wiley College football better. That rate utility the raiders are professional football team and they can't even get a stamp off that's embarrassing that's what Peter I don't like that that that quarterback that the raiders have I punk now he saw that -- them an energetic body ability I think he's one of those guys that they keys ten times better than any room at Fred -- this they can't move the ball at all for like the third straight week. They could move the ball at all right they had no chance ever scored a point. Now I know that tuiasosopo was in the best quarterback in the world but he's plates of NFL football chipmaker quarterbacks which some point I don't know what I'd be like obviously this guy did in the other thing about tuiasosopo with -- mobility. So that rush common baby -- that this -- Art shell why does he have headphones on he never says that he just stands there I -- team is that -- get al Davis who is just like I don't know what he's doing he's like and I I'm ashamed of my two Rico those guys because they said -- mention al Davis about seeing progress in the communities that don't talked about progress partly about winning is all I care about is winning right now. -- say at all. Greek hit me right I mean you bastard virtually every eat all you lucky if you win four games this year you -- for the first pick in the draft. So then that's right their -- this denial al Davis is in right now he doesn't want to talk about his team getting better he already thinks their good. Now awful."

[25:41]" He's he's out of it the teams out of it in the they need new structure from the top down you know they really do so OK let's get to the emails the first one comes from Rodrigo he says -- of of the showed how you guys try to see the both sides of every story I've been a patent is for ten years on 18 and I grew up in Springfield mass I don't remember having felt such heartache. Over any type of sporting event like it did on Sunday I felt disappointed before of course but never has my heart hurt so bad that it did -- drop that -- having said that I don't think that -- will drop not one catch a ball ball for the rest of the season because if I were him I would practice till the wee hours of the night what stuff walk. So we were just talking about Kevin -- you know when he dropped that pass and get intercepted you know. -- patriots. And mindset is that okay well something's gonna happen it's gonna be flattening yield or you know something will overturn matter you know but for once -- that is have you had to admit this is it's over right that was it. There's no. Talk ruled as though think it's going to happen that's going to overturn this. You know for once the patriots did not take advantage of another team's --"

[27:03]" And I'll and I'll go back to the alarming statistic -- 16 -- nine the past two years -- 12 at all against teams with records of 500 -- So in other words the reckon our victories against bad teams and lose it of the good ones that's not a good sign for your franchise is just isn't because then you begin to the playoffs even -- the complainant about -- reason this -- that which you know why. They lose to these teams all the time so why would you expect to beat him in the playoffs well we should."

[27:31]" I've mentioned give congratulations Detroit brown who set the Tina franchise record for receptions you know that's great it couldn't happen to a better guy to bad happened in that game by we need to to a shout out to Troy brown and ironically like you said two with -- most gentle players sausage and players in the league Troy brown Barbara Harris these of gift lack of good hunting the -- travel -- it"

[28:01]" you know lot. I I can understand throwing the flat initially because he thought he -- would at the guy but you think they would have come together and say he wasn't thrown -- at the guy he was just all right all right so I don't blame the initial flat throwing I just figured. Are you going to correct it because it was obvious that he buddy who's a mean there's more than one official on the field nobody saw that it was an intentional."

[28:23]" And you know -- ballots that was on patriots Monday yesterday afternoon rarely does you know -- Kind of be vague about that calls in the past but rarely -- be specific and he came right out that that was just that whole thing you know that was bad let's say buzz that made Arizona what was yeah he says what's up what Doug gave -- Chad Jackson why is at their height advantage being utilized more also at times seems like gable was running a -- just for the sake of running it. Well that's the that not open. I mean I'm just telling you that they're not open. -- I mean it's. You know. We can say that another gays but for its as far as this game is concerned I don't care what they were doing all -- dating give the ball of Moroni enough for the second half mr. receivers don't have to be open I don't you know when they against the biggest questionable beef it's item on the phone we have Mike from EU my."

[29:19]" You -- against Dylan good good. First -- want to project he added I did come out last week and say that this is going to be an easy game and definitely more than. And -- really disappointing and trying to bring up two point and I dot where you get -- had been mentioned it yet. First south Brady's play I I really think that it ought -- in the first tribe that girl would probably the worst tried everything to make in the -- agree with -- total. Serie three million in their sounding -- involve no reason to tell by just sitting there unfortunately couldn't go to the game but I'm sitting there watching it. With my friend and I'm dislike you can -- on the field 678 -- to -- He's got a Brady liked. Very and then obviously mr. -- and more than a very good girl. Lady -- seemed to be throwing in a lot of 23 man coverages where they were at the safety playing over a corner playing under a linebacker somewhere in the area too. It just. Pattern olives they respect the receivers they were trying to lots of him yet. -- and -- the ball and I just felt like that and it's funny as -- mentioned -- and I wanted to get that out there that we're going to radiate pet and again the amount that the only that the poem that first drive. He just then a decision and just kept going on and on in the pressure is mounting in and obviously and then drops a ball."

[30:48]" The -- my -- let me take you back -- couple years but with -- Ty Law playoff game where he picked off -- a bunch of times they're Sierra times com the colts' first drive their power to the ball on the ground in -- yardage its second -- who. They throw two straight passes into the end zone ones picked off by Harrison and most people thought there that the colts should just kept running the football clinic and I felt like. That in this game it was -- reverse like it was almost that game where the patriots were -- in the football while that all of -- sudden they threw wandered the Arizona and from a guy who never criticizes people for taken chances like throwing the ball down the field. At that point in the game I thought they were gay and so what -- yards on the ground save that for later he'll save that told Sanders comes up the line of scrimmage more in the other brilliant guys up don't need to do right off the bat like that."

[31:39]" Yes definitely that's and that the without -- who has -- on -- decision -- coaching -- And bring that kind of -- second point is that this morning I'm Bob Sanders who is truly a cream maker and nobody is watching insult as pretty impressive. But -- protection -- It was -- I don't I don't know -- that's another statistic and you need you guys added that unlike the scene we just for protection act and religiously literally lined up in the -- attacks and head to receive various earlier villain in the debt field. You know get eight bystanders you're living testament he jumped up and they go you know one on one confidant somebody that's -- And then --"

[32:24]" the first one was that was a play action pass them through -- but that was early in the game I -- in the second -- when they started in the -- and it started to really -- I would -- ultimately that's obviously immediately in the running -- because. They kind of -- Q would it started doing trampoline in everything -- and they went away from the out."

[32:42]" he was definitely well they definitely used to in the second half more to contain the running game that's for sure he was definitely you know it's -- like what Tony dungy said about -- in los bungee said that Sanders. Arm he made three tackles on Moroni that would have been touchdowns if he if he did make them so that's will be in -- point was was. Well can you imagine -- touched the ball ten more times -- Bob Sanders doesn't make one of those you don't write I think -- the point of just give the ball to maroni. You know it you don't have to pass you know -- they say about passing only three things can happen in passing when you pass the ball to move -- bad. You know. When to run the ball at least you know -- and stuff you don't have to worry -- this is no indictment on Corey Dillon who's played well this year but the bottom line is he's not -- 60 yard right he's just not -- 60 yards Moore 40 is a guy who could make people -- in the secondary and take -- the distance and it's time that we are seeing more him."

[33:37]" Absolutely definitely yeah it's -- go ahead I want to thank you guys and I -- a way to landing after the game I've kind of gotten over it disallow icing that we really haven't got schedule I want to see them crushing the very. Absolutely do -- I about -- and physically that's going to be the only game guy injection obviously but I injection needle on the team a team on the way down I don't think they gained in India."

[34:03]" I don't know what to write this quarterbacking that could be a team on the way out. Currently tough -- home they don't they don't -- home -- all right."

[34:12]" Help help that they come they really have to challenges -- that -- just want to -- go from here because I -- I -- the only real -- we're going to -- is once they get into the --"

[34:21]" Like like I think where they go from here is establishing lords Moroni as their number one up that's when you work on the continue to work on the passing correct. Yet they're bearded -- of literally -- come -- these -- that usually. Questions play calling you know I'm usually the kind of highlight yet all these people who question play calling for work they would become writing you know and that's. Usually -- these guys in the silent no more than I didn't -- out of I just think it was so damn obvious that Lawrence Perot he was a freak in this match. -- I agree yeah. -- until they stop on key don't limit laws. I think what he's always his yards per carry -- its four point eight or point 84 point yet he's in the to every two -- you pretty much a first down. So I don't know this is baffling and I'm hoping that they they see the same thing once they speak about the game."

[35:24]" And again this is -- or not slam and Corey Dillon just that when he's given four yards you that could have been a touchdown for -- just like dungy said one guy made a difference in three we don't see that you know what I mean basing that on film right. So the explosiveness of Moroni specially as a team like this we can't stop the run islander plane like the bears are more physical he may -- want to -- they have passed the ball. You want to ask you want to do things but this was a game where Moroni that are really set himself. Apart had a big game"

[35:54]" didn't get a you know you -- you hit him so often with your sense of whining you're tight ends up by the fourth quarter the defects has beaten. In other just so tired I can do anything you want -- don't like contact in the first quarter so in the fourth quarter they're not going to want to touch any. All right -- at San Diego dude it's his first before receiving of congratulations Roy at the shining example of what a patriot is you deserve to be included a -- ring of -- or something like that. If you told me before the game that we would hold the -- to 27 points at eight and four times or five make that that sector or I think that's that's also something they haven't done so. You know I'm not so down of the -- anyways is not counting the 78 knockdowns it took the ball away twice we still lost. I would have been shocked. Domino in the candidate to hate me any but. That was the greatest game I've ever seen a quarterback play the world at least ten times I thought there is no way he completes that path and that some colts receiver comes down with -- that was one of the worst games ever watched it actually hurt me. On the plus side I actually thought that -- played pretty well against tough team to cover Rosie had a great game Ciba made a couple plays got to go to work probably had a better time --"

[37:07]" Who's nick groups India old nick I applaud you Herbie and someone who can at least tip their hat to -- in the inning you know I don't like -- in the inning you know that -- I hate the colt's right but. Just say here and say I was on Felder show on Friday and someone called in city sick of people like -- say in that we would take Brady but Manning's a close second. -- he said this may recall found he said Manning is an even in the same league is Brady now to actually think that. Is absolutely mind boggling to -- and we can you imagine in the now -- and it's it's -- you know listen if you want to say Peyton Manning won't in the playoffs then I certainly can't argue that point because he's he doesn't do usually in big games. But to say that he is not a great quarterback and not to enjoy watching him virtually Brady -- miss it now because of Paul pointed out last week Montana and -- only played three times. The patriot fans get to watch that every year at least once sometimes twice a year it would when some day you're so now the patriots stink. You know that happens every TV -- look back on this and say boy remember when Brady in the inning used to -- that I also in at least enjoy it"

[38:20]" rotted Tennessee the loud sucking noise that all of patriot nation just heard with the sound a home field advantage throughout the playoffs going right out the window. I think it's clear now even after only eight games that this year's road to the Super Bowl goes through indeed if not Foxboro. By two words to sum up Sunday night's game they would be missed opportunity. If you told any Pat's been that the team would rush for over hundred yards sac meeting three times intercepted and forced three field goals to that automatic Adam would miss it forced to turn over a kick return they would have thought automatic win right wrong. Unfortunately the golden boy Brady was some of his luster in heat in that fought the passing game from last week the back to earth hard. Speaking -- it why on earth this team was trying to be cute and -- on the rocky -- the league's worst run defense is beyond me. Two things were crystal clear after that loss once it may be debatable whether banning a Brady is a better quarterback but it wasn't last night -- with lights out while Tom terrific was hit or miss with an emphasis on -- the high heat to Watson triple coverage may -- want to -- second. -- after this week in the NFL anything this team does against any NFC team including the beers is meeting thank you. The AFC is so far away the better conference at this year's Super Bowl will be relegated to an anticlimactic formality. Following the AFC title game -- all of us that pay -- nation believe our team will be in that title game unfortunately and fortunately it's looking like a road game at."

[39:52]" Indeed and just so you know after they beat Minnesota one of the patriots players walk into the tunnel shall now that's the NFC for -- that's the NFC -- is so even they now I've even a million a season joke. An -- you know that that was -- he had he had a great game and some people say that while he's got better weapons but let me point this out -- His team gives a 150 yards on the ground they rushed for two yards -- carry. At least it'll winds on the -- you know so you can say he's got better weapons but the patriots have a better running game and a better defense and right now if you voted for anybody for MVP besides pay admitting then you have a bias that he should be voting Richard."

[40:33]" In northern Ireland it saddens me to say it but we were beaten by a better team Sunday night. I don't really want to take anything away from the -- But there it just a few things that don't understand the patriots out first why with a -- to Sicily lighting up 15 to 20 yards from the colts receivers I understand that you don't want to get beaten by the big play but get beaten for 20 arch Johnson Todd is in much better. I would like to have you have been oppressing from the quarter to try to disrupt the -- time. Secondly in the third quarter I felt the team abandoned the run which the colts could not stop finally I think it's time to give Moroni the bulk of the carries seeds of most explosive offensive weapon every time don't get the ball gets a moderate."

[41:14]" Good gain analysts think what are Moroni had -- there -- went all the way. Right now he's not your right up front would you agree with me that the 20 to three games were Ty Law didn't play had a lot to do with whether in Peyton Manning's just flat out choking okay now other than that. Ty law's been apart a big part of stopping the -- I think people really forget about that. When you have a quarter the that has the ability of Ty Law -- other guys can do so many other things to the receivers and they haven't had Thai laws since then and since then other than appoint a three game they haven't stopped the colts"

[41:51]" Louis of Tampa bay I was so mad -- Brady threw out the whole game. But I stopped thought about it in it wasn't Brady it was the people around him. It goes like this would be heading looks -- was lefty has weighed when he looks was writing -- Erickson when Brady looks was left he has -- when he looks was -- yes who do you get the picture. -- care about me -- in the patriots don't that's wrong what do you guys think."

[42:18]" I already gave you my opinion on it so who not going to I was pretty emphatic about it let you -- you don't think there's anything to I think -- branch of the couldn't get them right but still. You have the the best quarterback in football are right now I know he makes average receivers better but let me give you an example here okay. They they were interest in Javon Walker a couple of years ago the -- person Antoine Winfield but they wanted to let the market settled first you know what happened. The first -- a free agent yet on when fuel was not a played the Minnesota and they did let them leave. So when you want a guy like they were dissident Javon Walker I think they need to be deliberately -- they had when Javon Walker was available they still had the -- I know but I'm saying they were interest -- document does say. -- the patriots don't care about their offense and Tom Brady's repeat I didn't say that that's what this guy not side Ahmad agreeing without say if you want a guy like a Javon Walker maybe become a little bit more aggressive. The question how much -- they want them thinking that they -- still going to get the outbreak that if they knew the average is coming back they may -- wouldn't of let out of course if you had Deion Branch and Javon Walker you go undefeated well today but that way to do it but you know you'd have a very high. You know. Just pay everybody let's just say you know they they drafted Moroni they drafted Dave Thomas they've drafted offensive lineman -- throw something out there for let's say the patriots don't want the Super Bowl this year or next year the least they start paying people than. -- do we just go with the same system -- we say -- they won three Super Bowls a couple years ago in their system used to work well it depends I mean I don't know -- has I don't know the scenario why they lost you know. You know I I don't know sometimes you gotta change with the times -- Bill Parcells he he'll he'll tell you the same thing I mean they -- paid players that an -- play anybody I didn't say that beat everybody I know but I'm just saying. At some point you would think if Brady is true 'cause I he talked Michael silver -- another thing -- last week where he said Brady is still fuming over Deion Branch. Now anybody on the inside knows that's the Brady talks do so he's not making it up if you think he is not. So my point is not just to get a good or maybe maybe Brady should get over it and start focusing on this that is still fuming over guy who's not here in about may be. At some point don't you want to make your your best player happy a little bit absolutely about a massive baby that Deion Branch they couldn't get done they said Jonathan Kraft said -- Felder show that. The next three years still make more money than any receiver in football now that's true you know great I understand you let the -- I'm not use an -- specifically but this season give this offseason would you go wild and try to get. But a solid receiver would you. There's one available yet unavailable -- wouldn't get one yet sure I'd glad I should say this switching a little bit on my order of -- thing because if I play for that team I'd asked to be traded -- you know that's such a bad situation that reminds me Corey Dillon. What he was just sick you don't lose them like that that the I don't blame those guys why would you want to be around a team that hasn't he does he -- have -- system."

[45:34]" The smell that Cologne from Albania -- in NJ says the colts. Quoting said the colts work who we thought they were we played them last year in the regular season. That's why we took the day of field now if you want to crowned and then -- their asked the colts were who we thought they were in return OK he wanted me to be -- any green via okay. Well I don't know I'm not ready to crown yeah the pages -- have the tape believe that the cardinals had over -- it appears that game. -- at San Diego again the colts player that caught Tom's first interception in the end zone was kicked. By Gabriel as he ran by the drive should have started on the 30 on the 20 that the 27 how many yards past the 20 before bill challenges that play did go -- well bill didn't come up two dollars that's thank god for that we will have to hear him celebrating all game the you must -- mocha didn't bit in the face neck and speaking of the coast -- an office seems to me that dungy is one of the most overrated coach of the week. Cowboys' -- the same as it was before -- got there in the defense budget specialty still sucks shouldn't five years be enough to make any defense decent. Does anyone feel that -- anyone else feel bad for bill Walsh would see those courts like commercials. I think you know."

[46:59]" Yet I will kind of agree with the dungy thing appease the defensive guy. Maybe it'll put a lot of money into the globe as -- by point is is that. Should it be just as bad now as it once when he first got there now what I'm saying today -- a little bit better even if it's right like 15 or 16 is that they have -- they're too busy make it Payton and a happy well. The rate now at night -- stroke. You better hope that our they'd built to win a Super Bowl I don't know that -- like you said if you can't eradicate its opera audiences know and -- the point is is people around here like us. Better hope that they don't cause when they if they do we got no more argument over it's over. Are right Gary let's take a break we'll be right back."

[47:56]" And while it's. Okay -- exclusively. The hard -- patriots extra points redeemable. -- in the white compatriots who gets too much power. Yeah."

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[50:42]" Oh Gary in the boot in already feel right. Well it's in the booth to. He's going to be -- push in the buttons in the second half Gary has a meeting she's hot too. So while web radio pages dot com email address -- web radio ad pages dot com reverend Raye writes in well at least we get the best we got the best possible game out of military we still blue. There's a lot to say about what went wrong dropped balls -- play call except for but I think that it's important to keep the game in perspective yes it was a big game big test but I think the consequences feel bigger because it was the colts. I hate them but it's one game if we were to play them again in the playoffs I still like our chances though it's now likely to be in indeed if that happens. I guess the question I'd ask is do you think any weaknesses were exposed awards this more combination of indeed being the best team in the league and we played quite happily. Also compare and contrast that Watson rose Jeremy Stevens both talented guys who can look great and dropped sure touchdowns in any weren't --"

[52:06]" Well I'd have to disagree I think Stevens sucks. There I think he's one of the most overrated players in the history of pro football the -- drops like one every three passes thrown his way east I gotta be honest with the as much as we only Joey porter. He he was right when he called him soft it. So a lot I think Watson is a much better player -- do agree it's similar to the in the way that they kinda dropped passes every now again but I think Stevens drops will be more easy passes and Watson does. It's that Minnesota game you know Watson hasn't really drop a lot of passes that -- actionable ball right even -- a lot yeah right right right. I'm also he says any weaknesses do you think we're expose on the night of -- on to the patriots the patriots got exposed I think their secondary I think we look at that everybody gets exposed against Nichols well let me ask you something Fred how to Javon Walker -- look at them. -- he had a good night OO solo Elie scored 17 points total. What does it matter they won it does have but it wasn't that the -- fall it will that he had two big plays against the secondary a bed and their fault but I understand but it well that's because -- the the defense just. You know what the picture archery and calls the local -- would those who are everything. I was so the 49 record against the -- that is it's it's not that befits -- well against the Broncos. That was the -- or not anything we're not say mostly in the -- it and you'd -- that something was exposed to we keep wondering if this secondary could hold up against the better receivers in the week okay. Cincinnati camp all the -- anybody for some reason they could play good there all it will -- Javon Walker exposed them Reggie when he exposed them Marvin Harrison exposed I don't know if they get to meet the playoffs -- But those are the guys that are going to not Lee Evans that peerless price"

[54:13]" let's save Mike writes in he's in southern Vermont. He says while it was a disappointment to see the five turnovers and patriots lost to the radicals there is a silver lining. We played that bad it's still -- a position to tie the game also this is only game number 8. And I am confident we will be playing better by game number 17 in beyond. It was obvious that there was still more work to be done with Tom Brady -- receivers speaking of receivers have you noticed that -- Jackson has been opened in the replays of several passes Brady has made to other receivers do you agree. Or is it an optical illusion from my vantage -- see the game on television. Is Brady not thrown to him a sign that he doesn't have confidence in him don't you think we outsmarted ourselves by passing too much was definitely agree with that last."

[55:01]" I don't think Ted Jackson is open very often I don't think he's on the field very often and let's be honest if you want to say the patriots played poorly the colts and play all that great either I mean let's they did not play great that was one of their better games. For further as I mean I know was exciting because the score how it ended but it really was a sloppy game on both sides of the ball for being such a big game and you know it's. I don't know I just every -- seems like since I've been here last year every time the patriots played the team -- a big game were sitting here making excuses or I'm sick and tired don't"

[55:36]" Shenzhen China. Writes the only game the pats have disappointed me in with the Denver game I know I shouldn't be thinking far ahead but I absolutely think we need to shut down corner in this draft what do you guys. And -- nice it I think -- shut down corner anyway get a global problem is is that you know if you had someone is it's artisan is -- is still young you know he has played a lot if you had someone equal to Samuel. I think they could do a lot more things on the fence Samuels play it well but you kinda -- imminent he got like a bunch other guy you know what I mean you're trying to put this hodgepodge together. At the defensive back position so I think that hurts them to get them -- down here that states it's not going to change -- put him in the put him in the my hair. A you're down here to be on the show it to the now redemption okay Paul will join -- soon as -- disease at its rule. -- medium -- please."

[56:39]" Web radio ad pages that covers -- hundreds went some hungry you know Tony I don't -- should be that -- that Hollywood Michael. You wait all day that he IAE I had a should shaiken a protein bar that that political through this again you can't live on that we do this did that we do this last week last Friday. I know I'm worried about all Michael bed not eating well you can't work well when I go back upstairs I'll have a criminal bar. He could be to a terrible to be honestly don't have that much Tuesday so you don't have to worry about me. Got to vote you gonna vote. I'm not registered in Massachusetts the vote -- you vote by proxy out of you know -- absentee ballot New York why the -- like there what's going on in the your capital of their anymore it's true but this is that a president so quiet you registered that's I have to register buck eyes. -- al -- registered in time to -- for next time of the presidency -- and yet so that two years I would hope so. Paul you gonna vote you'd ever know -- you know like -- job get a vote this is another what are your rules but he never not got a job offers coming and I could be united B and Wyoming tomorrow who knows."

[57:51]" Out okay well I'm going to vote on the and only you will work but an ally on -- that -- maybe it's it's you know australian ballot in the United States than anything. You know all right let's get back to the emails web radio pictures dot com. While numbers -- away by 437482. John writes in two days have gone by that still try to figure out how Tony dungy out coach bill belichick. I don't know -- it was blinded by that read but he that he was panicked by the side of the -- for the second straight year he really has not been called out in his time in New England but more coaching outings like this when ice on Sunday. People will be criticizing him more more. I know Brady had a -- game and with all the mistakes that -- real loss -- but let's get a dose of reality if Rodney -- is out for the season which have a bad feeling he is. You could cancel those Miami reservations there will be nobody we may win a home playoff game but a trip to Denver could be our last game once again this year. In after last week where we feel we were back it just goes to show what a difference a week makes now that now that was the real let's -- look let's let's look proof that. Fred rose colored glass. We will -- someone else and bodies -- hope San Diego Denver and Baltimore falter we win our next seven out of ten. Which I will say will be at Jacksonville return as the second seat and a trip to Indy 4 AFC title game but no Rodney in my opinion no ring. He just say seven out of the next 107 -- next eight -- I invited that you set up yet it's evident in Miami games. They going to lose at Jacksonville 13 and three that's what we sent John but that goes the -- point that they are losing against the better teams and that's not good for the play."

[59:52]" Now I mean it's -- there's no way to sugarcoat that they haven't really. They haven't performed very well again"

[1:00:00]" what I would consider you know you know at least middle of the road to above teams over the past two years now you know about it I'll even give some wins over teams like Cincinnati who right now. You know looks average at best form for opt out consider that it could win against but a talented team by. Even the wins against those teams seem less impressive today admitted when they won the games in Minnesota lost -- Cisco now with hindsight we."

[1:00:29]" that they're not I mentioned to Fred if you test predicted by the way by Tom."

[1:00:34]" Well I just felt that -- teams don't that was pure reactionary -- an adult or a wider strike and a soda can argue IUI and but I said the -- in this is concerning that if you look at the 3 top teams the AFC the colts Denver and the chargers. The patriots are always six the last two years in those three teams and that's not that's on the line moving forward"

[1:00:56]" PJ writes that I traveled up for the game this weekend I have a lot to talk about so I'll break it up through the about the game I can't understand why we didn't run the ball more -- was averaging about five or six yards a carry in the first -- and Dylan picked up close the that is well in the second half the running game was almost nonexistent. I don't want to hear that we were down because we were never down by more than ten there was plenty of opportunity to run. The positive that came out of the game for me was that if in when the nets beat the colts again it will there will be some differences no matter where they play one Brady will not throw four -- guarantee that to the special teams won't allow the colts to get to the 45 yard line on -- return we -- The pats will establish the run more continue to use. On the negative I guess Adam won't miss two field goals as well anyway it was a weird feeling coming out of the stadium because it felt like school work. Could have been a lot worse but at the same time it felt like the -- brought their -- and hung with the colts in the economist stakes. -- had a lot of bad breaks they still had a chance to tie the game in the last minute oh well I don't I do know one thing Fred we went to Quincy market and it was awesome shout that in a bread bowl what a concept. By the way. Did -- it happened to slap Tom if he did ask Tom how -- face pasted. Actually built only did not come up to the arguments that there."

[1:02:18]" And if the patriots play their Seagate the -- play -- C -- game I would say the patriots play their half game in the colds played like a -- mines I mean I I really think they're both teams didn't play very well and Nike in the that the -- that the colts won because their best player. Played pretty well in the patriots best player didn't write that that one that's a good way to put that but overall I mean you want taco mistakes. The -- all right. The -- bowl five times the -- turn it over twice and it's -- Theo but they also missed two field goals of the patriots won so that that cuts you know those alike and those like turnovers missed field in score looks like -- for right. You know meaning through an interception in the red zone -- and that's going to happen again but Brady won't throw any interceptions the next and they play. Remaining half to two receptions o'leary threw one against the patriots that was mandates that -- three -- times which they rarely do they usually don't get to him. And they you know they didn't run at all -- to weren't able to run the ball out but the page is defense at times played really really well it's just that offense is really good it's just checked out"

[1:03:26]" let's see who was this this it is a salt former Orlando -- this is the podcast but it missed the couple so if what I go over has already been said my bad. After watching the colts game I came to a couple of conclusions I'll ask -- events don't get me wrong I'm not saying we are doomed to whatever we could have easily on that game something but gave it up to the colts I have a couple things that maybe you can comment on it may be giving -- up on another perspective one. Went -- just beat Daniels turned into Charlie -- I don't agree with a lot of what -- says during a broadcast but he hit the nail on the head when he was talking about the pats were doing a lot of things wasted. Instead of keeping with what were earlier in the game Elvis that -- is though good picnic. Oh I I agree I I turn to Tom at one point went all these people running around in the pages back field and Brady still have abolished that don't need to -- You know what what's the matter my battery went well battery sleaze became Gary what do you grab that those headphones right there those were either to the battery -- really. Of the Tom doesn't have had flown back in we got a technical problem here lorries coming in with with the the batteries. Why this is great radio alright let me get to number two here we need to have a good draft that April our defenses they'll play makers that seems wanted to steps and by Chad Scott. We need to draft -- a quarterback who can hold down one side of the field you guys -- say Samuel as a legit starting quarterback but he didn't show me the other night. We need at linebacker to get the faces of the receivers and running backs and make them pay for a big game well you know I can't agree."

[1:05:21]" But the guy is released women's -- he's there because there I mean I don't think he's really a number one I think he's that good solid thing slamming us more but I think he's right and the army said it earlier. The times that they've had success against -- is when Ty Law was out right there and he's what you would call is shut down quarter who could control one half of the field both guys are rare though -- the right five in the NFL can do that. So what we always -- use the token Paula you agreed other the 20 to three games were standing choked in the weather. Ty Law was a big part of shut him down when they you know they had success against them and they still don't have all that much success when he was when I was next."

[1:06:04]" Maintain in this is based blue might post game analysis was all about. The two games that they really shut down -- meaning with two playoff games and in January in the wind and snow in Foxborough and I think that that in hindsight now had as much to do what it is anything else because. All of the other games whether they were played in Foxborough. Or in -- Meaning is reasonably too highly productive against the patron you know and you know that with very few exceptions and and you can sell the stuff about -- second I -- think there's an element that. That meaning gets a little bit rattled against. -- ticket there's a lot of mental aspect of the game that comes into and I think that we -- even at times -- I thought there were some times that. The pressure was getting to me look like he was ready to have that face but you know the patent and face that comes out of nowhere Aaron and whatnot. You know I think that this something too -- but. When the weather is Normal you know just for example Cape May be one of the most important plays of the game was the very first pass. That that that he completed the third down pass idiots flushed out of the pocket rolls out and throws a bomb to Marvin Harrison well you'd there's no way -- that pass can be completed NG annually you can't. That past can't happen in January. There's no way he's thrown at 44 yards downfield in in the wind and snow."

[1:07:27]" I -- goes on to say someone on the POWs deficit before the vikings game that we should throw little extra Samuels way to make date I think that was me I don't believe he is worth the ten million dollar signing bonus with the performance the other night as I said earlier."

[1:07:43]" So when you want your quarters to be."

[1:07:47]" Ellis -- and who which and so reactionary naked and and and -- I don't blame the fans. I'm arena and reactionary guide to an in my now when I was and I was the same way but they came off that Minnesota game and and and I just wrote this an asked if that is have posted yet but. You know of that the big question after that Minnesota game -- was what kind of sunblock. Now all of a sudden you know Marvin Harrison I don't know you matter heard he's -- good receiver he has his way with a center -- forget about giving a little extra money his way what you -- I don't think was out of out of the realm of possibility they might look at sat him is he's got that we have an assistant for four years is easy Champ Bailey got now. -- now now but he might be your guide it might be worth a little bit extra to to for the pages to keep rather than as Tom was about to point out -- continuing to bring in new guys and hope that they -- Alice hobbes looks like he's fitting in the -- the little -- okay. But not all of that the defensive back -- they've drafted over the past couple years have worked out the same way it's it's not easy they just everybody's anxious. This guy here upon Baghdad and then. And so now we're not paying for CM reaction group Graham -- probably believe so once again oh what he wants is who'd -- to sign the seriously if you don't want on the keeps him -- and who. But the that then at that up that I get irritated with this after Minnesota everybody would said such an out take him you know that he's on his part of defects that suffocate we have allowed a touchdown in. You know 18 quarters or whatever like ten quarters you know scientist Daniel -- but then all of a sudden the colts. Oh I don't you may have heard have pretty good conference they put 20 ever on the board and I feel that -- played pretty well all we know a lot of those in immediate past maybe the linebackers were screw up. And you know I don't know. I just don't -- united -- we got some asked if that is asking why they didn't. -- impressed the receivers a little bit more the last mental stock daddy's. Especially when you don't have title on the field and Rodney Harris. -- act and I eligible are used to do that Harrison thing -- people it is possible you know they didn't really puts that much input press coverage while they didn't have a key part of the secondary you think that maybe affected some of the things that they did."

[1:10:01]" And it seemed like when they when they use the galloping chip or more it was when they had law and Harrison. There to do that kind of thing -- passed a mom did you know you don't have you don't want those are two good players great players if you take them out of the scheme I don't care what system you run it's not as good without dialogue Rodney Harrison"

[1:10:20]" for what happened to special teams had been thinking this the past few weeks -- under the assumption that we have the same specialties -- and so one that's true brits do so why has there been a drop off of big plays they say Moroni has the best average penalty but note CD's. In the punt returner kick returner in the last two years. What gives lacked the personnel or something else so big plays are only touchdowns skies agreement as -- or yards and 77 yards in two consecutive games they went touchdowns I guess that nobody plays out throughout -- I think the key which it is as good as ever yeah. Kick coverage now -- coverage on site."

[1:10:57]" night was a problem right. Period end of story it was a big time problem Terrence Wilkins looked like. And it might helms agreed yeah and as we know that doctor one Horry started going across the field if he was like Justin miller who had more speed he's gone he the whole field wide open Asia's. He did have the speedy get there it would touchdown and I thought the kick returns I -- quite frankly were pretty bad. All year and so he broke that 74 yarder against buffalo but since then now including Sunday night -- they're -- like a gap -- it's been a key part of the offense. Three games in a grown up is that -- even though the was no big plays you know but every time my town said they were outlets."

[1:11:38]" Casualties I think -- analyst doing okay he's doing fine punt coverage is doing okay on coverage has been out -- yeah kick offs -- I -- was saying -- Gus -- who's getting a little short as the game was going on I think he's been finding kickoffs kickoff coverage has been a problem field goals pay. I can't ask for more than what he's been doing so far rookie kicker he's he's been doing okay and the kick return I think -- all of all I think special teams has been an a plus for the steam with the exception of kick kick off coverage that's --"

[1:12:13]" I think kickoff coverage really it was always the problem mean. What may be an individual's return here and I think Terrence mean he had a long one and one of the buffalo games. Individually here that is a problem I think for the most part on the season kickoff coverage has been pretty good except on an James the iPod guy -- AJ -- of the manic cleaned up this weekend you went 71 and one of the pieces start chart -- you -- and -- day I just email at him now individually yet. I figured -- your light thanks again I'm way up now what question. Serious NFL radio announced today that it is the last stayed -- charge. Any signing bonuses to this year's cap. Any word on if the paths of and so now I haven't heard anything yet. But who knows usually the patriots don't announce extension so -- I don't come now it will come right you don't get it right away but we know that."

[1:13:11]" Seymour had part of his bonus put put on the cap and we know that opened had part of it as part of his extension summit that was put on. The 2006 capsules some of that money is are used they don't have and all that the common phrases 1010 plus million in salary cap money they don't have that much now now manatee not according to Jonathan Kraft okay."

[1:13:33]" Let's see Russell from the OC says friends Romans patriots fans I enjoy -- respect your perspective on things because you shoot pretty great so your thoughts on these -- fourth down sneak. I can't say if he got it for sure or not I but I do know that he was close to the first down -- Roethlisberger was to a touchdown in last year's super."

[1:13:52]" All -- not a chance he knew that I'd even I didn't get that now Levy we looked at it -- we were looking at the yellow line and if that's the only qualify that'll throw out there is sometimes that computer yellow line not right that's we're go buy -- if that yellow line is right away. Not even not even -- more than a yacht and that the whistle blew where his first -- progress stop he was human rights I mean there was a movement after that. But -- it comes down to where the whistle was look like that we can't hear the sound like the -- were what you have to -- was pointing to a guest spot on the ground as as Brady was still -- twisting in I think for extra yards. But you mean he'd get the first the -- all right hold more blatantly than Denver but the rest allow Saturday at along the coastal -- and Saturday actually two. Jeff Saturday actually tackled -- four and one of the long passes to Harrison he adds is don't call -- can't run root -- cut out our --"

[1:14:51]" Ouch let's hope for this release his release at season's end. But Watson's should be made to catch 100 -- the day every day after practice from the machine we might hang on to more than one out of every war. Can one honestly have confidence the pats can make a legitimate run for the championship. They've been beaten soundly by two of their main rivals in the -- anything it's that it's half decent this year seems to rattle them I would say they need a better offensive coordinator but then we'd be forced to hear that Brady isn't used to them. This last sucks because that your -- pulley and gets the -- knowing deep down he's manipulated this week the favor the colts with the powers that be in the NFL."

[1:15:29]" Already are enamored with I liked it. I should say though that. Only it was gloating by yeah radio the -- he was outside the locker room on the TV day it was she would normally they do that outside the locker room and he had the biggest smile on his face you'd ever want to see an -- heard him talk about like who would roll with a one Peter and -- is going an opportunity I don't think I love the conspiracy theories though they want but no way to. Well it's true. -- I would you know well I'll go this far. Also a behind closed doors the league does want Peyton Manning the -- Super Bowl what you know lot I don't think the refs are cheating Portland happen about now is no way. I think the league would like Nancy the colts in the super bull. Huge ratings and -- states it could be huge story you know is greatest -- is he's done a three -- Christ you know it's probably better for the league absolutely to have more teams when you know like a lot of people criticized baseball -- what do we don't know what eight. Now eight different champions any years 70 in champions seven years on my back -- exposed me to what has no parity. You know for the the obvious that they're -- has everybody -- football has repeat winners all the time but that deal this is the league's -- the story lines one patriots. How boys in the Super Bowl because that I mean that's third her dream Parcells for spell check I mean he can't get enough of that but -- is colts in the super wal. -- and cowboys closely -- anybody when Parcells and that ain't gonna happen so they can scratch all the ones with the cowboys' off the list"

[1:17:10]" Jeff from month to New Brunswick Canada do you think the pats can rebound from this disappointing loss and beat the jets the Sunday I think a big factor could be which jets team shows up. The one that got blown up by Jacksonville the one that almost -- I went to my fourth pat gave my new year's day -- the dolphins have been hoping to experience pats went."

[1:17:31]" Okay can you say this on the -- Well I think that beat up his -- with their what do you think about that. I think it would be mad at CB email Monica madness for picking the Patriot -- Leo we can't pick the patriots. Well I mean I was Tom Paul I would have rather the patriots beat the colts and -- the -- and throw that gave the jets you know what. I I think I agree with you because you know advocates that they didn't play well but when you play the best team in the Lee. It is no excuse for not playing you're achy and in it I think it was someone important because it's. That mental thing that would -- with meaning the more you beat him in the hotter it is for him overcome that now it's just always there it's getting closer row at home it's getting ever closer to being just another game. I'll like Dwight -- said to me after the game pretty soon the other that -- if we play him again why don't you guys ask the patriots who. You know I'll come and -- they never beat the colts and he's right united anyways I'm sure it was a little tongue in cheek when he he would it was he was getting around but you know. Like I said. The next time they play it's closer -- just another game for me an. Speaking of free what's happened. I thought he played pretty good game and it I didn't show up blog stats by almost I think he's so fat slow -- well they're about took place but took place reports -- them fat and slow. He came blistering -- left edged. And nailed Brady as he threw that screen pass that went and that it going you know incomplete in just absolutely he -- had a snack for some reason he always -- touch Brady I don't know what a girl that was one of those because of the rules that you provided no rating and a Pontiac it is and I think he probably thought that -- on the ball. Eddie eat just put two hands in Brady's testimony pull back and also Brady rolled away from him. And it felt a big enough -- Oakland catcher that was a big completion that was a big pass that was late in the first half -- and Arafat it it got wiped out could the next play great force the ball triple coverage. And into Watson got picked off but that was a big third down conversion Alex writes what's your explanation of why a team commits five turnovers in only loses by a touchdown. The colts really beat the patriots -- the patriots beat themselves ago they got beaten the exclaimed with a better team that explanation I've only been a touchdown as the colts had point eight turnovers and penalties themselves. Yet it was it was a comedy of -- both teams -- the -- has -- let me ask -- alive vineyards along the patriots several mini games where they -- five turnovers -- I -- where -- you know were -- when it's close and they have like plus three turnover margin of -- winning yeah but that's because of this period the -- that they forced those journalists. All right -- that's correct. That's basically what it is when when you know when we go to Denver last year and we lose in the playoffs. You know we we handed game at Denver. But when he becomes scary and -- the ball over five times let's go to we -- up -- and let's go to the horse's mouth Fred do you think that the colts outplayed the patriots yes. -- that's about as clearly you get when Fred went -- says one question that Tom you said Friday that this would be the calm before the storm really. What's the weather forecast for the Sunday -- Sally. Recall and you out and I don't really understand what is at the top of that the patriots would beat the colts and that'd be 3834. -- ought to be high scoring game in the that the patriots would win because they would -- the stop the running game now if you want to ask elegiac quality stuff in the ball off -- answer probable what did you mean come before the I don't I got a -- in the email letting you be more of that. I say a lot of stupid things -- really remember. So you're going to have to be more specific if you -- a call we -- some stupid licenses and even went seven turnovers. If the field goal -- make their case it's 3323 right even with seven turnovers and now some of those came in the red zone to the patriots came on -- one and a one of the colts did so. Your your prediction of final always pretty close I don't know com before this I don't know I -- you -- have to be more specific I'll give the an answer -- was wrong. Alejandro says the cowboys won three Super Bowls before you it's been my question is how where they're not Super Bowl winning years what kind of season that they have -- out knocked out in the NFC championship game the one in an airline strike though."

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[1:26:34]" All of Tom just kind of Whittle away the minutes until John rock comes that you at 2 o'clock with pitchers playbook you know we've had a lot of different views in this game what the game means in terms of the overall season what it means in terms of just the patriots play in their rivalry with the -- but I think at this time. Unless you're just completely in denial you have to admit right now the colts are a better team than the new wing of patriots and have been a better team over the last two seasons -- I think. No matter what he can't come up with any other conclusion right now now you know if they play in the playoffs will that -- the pages automatically -- held well."

[1:27:18]" It's like you know I agree with you Fred it's it's like when the patriots were winning. And we all would sit here and we'll get email at the emails saying how great the patriots were probably had no chance to lose and the four of us army at the time Brian was instead of Tom by we would -- say -- Yeah I think the patriots are gonna win but don't like Tennessee can't come in here for example and win -- there's there's good teams it's is I think it's the same thing right now I think you're right everything -- said. Coming out of the break is actually accurate -- right now Indies probably. Playing better football in the patriots if they're playing tomorrow -- and the patriots can't wind god no I think they would definitely win but it is a little different now. Instead of that -- alleged that you had over the colts you've looked kinda lost that. And you may have that mental stumbling block. Going into a game against Denver because of elect -- success against the Broncos so it's a little bit different again and it doesn't mean if they're playing tomorrow for the FC championship -- no matter where it is that you're going to say they can't win by. And I think things have changed a little absolutely. With the governments and which is very impressed with your opening monologue that I want him to come and tell it to like that just it was well put okay and surprising coming out your -- he -- the colts were -- emotionally complete denials colts are better team right now."

[1:28:43]" They are in have been over the last two years you know you know. By global say like eight you know me I think the patriots will not be the same team at the end of the season that's right that's absolutely true in the -- probably won't be as good as they are right now because they rarely are so. That's why I still that's why I was able to get over the scene as quietly as I in my opinion any heavy heart totally disagrees with the than the nightmare matchup for the patriots as the San Diego Chargers because they can play great defense and suffocate you that way they have a great running back they have a great tight and they can get down to feel. And for meat that's the one team I think that if we're talking a lot of team that others in the colts -- Denver that can really come in here hurt the patriots it's if merry -- on the field that San Diego he thinks going to be tough to be."

[1:29:34]" Especially with Rodney Rogers oh you know with with -- he could be a much bigger problem without Rodney and we would topping out at talking about it in and it's funny because they're tied with Denver -- which owns Denver's its US amp M played yet this guy -- Broncos -- played yet and everybody just kind of assumes while Denver had to be tough test of well. Charges could very well be in contention that by just as much as Denver is. But let's say for I respect that San Diego incipient while countryman have to come. -- what's the patriots a three -- four like they were last year and a host of -- that wild card weekend right. That might be the perfect scenario for San Diego because finally Marty would be in a situation where he's not supposed to win -- knowing when I don't have that play out pressuring an old -- they're -- expects to lose any you know maybe it wouldn't be such a."

[1:30:24]" Pressure could build the next week right but I I told the last week buck. Yet big huge button and Spartan Jesus I don't -- well. They say that it's -- all it is but I had to rent -- so what do -- government that I don't know -- unit of ford -- gravity of ram -- difference pickup -- you know with the -- cabinet like an -- either way so -- figured -- about -- I'll never never have a pickup -- figured might as -- have a little -- the -- I figured -- went -- to -- gets out -- from John -- however -- look at all -- people who ride motorcycles -- use the pickup -- what you use the -- that a -- any one who -- like for instance a female -- stand now. On the put it got wrecked boy -- senate Tom. But I have a that's on driving a date I would never date a girl who drives a pickup truck I don't care how much he has relic it bothers me that much. But that this thing is punitive like -- some -- awesome monster so I -- bills -- we have a little fun do you park but now the other thing is it's about 3600 dollars -- damage in the car accident or the you have to what else can I do. New you sorry you are going to get a new low after I did you needed saturated after -- fix it -- traded in the get a new car. So but then I went I brought it over to the what is the -- well now. The box the Tokai without a lot of with a set for -- yeah I mean I I Anita crawled off to the side but I took at least one of the legs and it was it was and actually. It was a big big gay animal that it go off into the woods and felt bad. You relatively -- at this stage no it could be suffering out there after all bow with all -- babies around -- daddy what's wrong with a these are hardly on the sales record should stick a bit like well after overnight at. -- out. Now if I I think you know -- soccer on the you've got to give a shout outs in the -- go to the championship. -- my annual question we get to the stage you don't generate as we go to the finals every year it took -- get a ring currently -- I don't know I don't even know if they get. Like get a bracelet they get necklaces that I wouldn't care if we now want. I don't know I don't wear my patriots rigidly -- registering now but I I think it's great I think they're gonna win it this year although I was talking to brad Feldman who is the play by play announcer for the reds before we -- money here and that he that they play and they haven't beaten in like 14 games over -- it's like the one team that they just can't be all planet -- knows why the plane. With a -- playing in DC -- as he he he he what's the dynamo team now among them losses the losses also handles I don't know last year but anyway they you know that. How did you know that is remembered for being here -- and watch suck another problem watch TOX. I'm out Texas dynamos facts both with the game being played at a loss I said -- with a game be employed. A note that a neutral site right Houston that's not neutral. While we played here one -- we lost it was a neutral site right that's true. A couple of years ago the -- was right right Eddie mills a Communist last -- okay due to our. Web video -- it does not with the email at the other end they played LA I want -- I a lot of like -- but that are kept us from West Lafayette, Indiana in the old boiler --"

[1:34:18]" I was that they gave this weekend in even about the pats lost even though the pats lost. I thought the game would have looked different based on several factors one was clear the Brady was not on during the game but I believe when he does his best is when he has a chance to get into rhythm in the shotgun with a 45 receivers that. So the dilemma is that you want -- the colds but maintaining a rhythm for the game that allows -- to stay focused I just leave that is touch was off in this game and he missed the streaking Chad Jackson. Down the middle for potential TV during the game it's over the past has created some tipped balls during the game. Are these people -- in Chad Jackson where he's not there this that the second guy who said that do you remember that. -- but this is the second person who said that he's such as Jackson opened during the game I solitaire Jackie throw itself outlays Ali didn't throw to -- it throat and I can't name -- who dismissed that maybe those -- only on the field for ample places in Italy just missed that and two injuries to the secondary -- taking a toll again. Both starting safeties out Harrison and Wilson with other injuries to Scott. In starting strong back SP quarter. I don't know back -- Randall -- what he's -- for the right take it but what a joke but that I'm I'm sorry I don't county Randall days has lost every comma. The probably injuries as not only the games lost but the timing of your plate during the games you come back from. I thought the secondary actually did pretty well and these -- look different if Colvin had not dropped the reception thrown right to him in the almost very difficult interception drop by Samuel on a play on a comeback by way. I think the couple of these plays of course would have changed the look that guy much different game I believe -- I think right now right I do remember these two plays into called -- should've been an -- as a major stretch I believe belichick. I had -- playing a lot of want to want to get Harrison for the experience. I think from the experience gain in this it's -- game provided good learning experience its annual -- as they get into the playoffs three going back to number one I think I just think the team lost the little focus from the run when they got a little behind."

[1:36:29]" We I hope we all agree those two guys can't cover Wayne and harassment they lived to be under. Now that the running you can wait list of the hundred at that they all have to be under that the -- via the running thing friend and I know you guys probably talked a lot before it came down. I think the individual plays in and we talked about it Fred you'll really upset about it during the course of the game maps and I agreed with hindsight and I still agree with you nods while pointing it out because you said -- while the game was going on I don't individual plays that they should've run the ball. And I think 11 sequence which I'm sure you've got a I brought it up that you mentioned -- right after the in Atlanta Chad Scott's interception -- cannot extorting complete through it got tipped picked off they should have been running the ball there 54 yards away from time in the game -- it right down their throats break their will -- in value on the game but anyway. In terms of the actual numbers running passing I don't think the numbers were that far you know I don't that the numbers with -- what people think they were now. Through 50 minutes of the game the first 15 minutes of the game I just looked this up to two recorded for asked -- W they had they had run the ball 30 times and they had passed and 25 times. Now what happened in the last ten minutes the colts kicked a field goal at ten and change left to make and 2717 from that point on it was eight passes three runs. Well I'm telling DePaul my eyeballs tell me that they just I took -- minutes. I can get just -- it's Moroni I agree with -- I think they should run the ball more -- agree with but I I absolutely you know grew old either late. Catching I don't want to see any deal on I know that it's not the politically correct -- canyon -- and that we had to ask if W last week in everybody made fun of me because on the one it that said. You know. I think they should just go all our own inner voice well you know -- that's crazy on it that's I think the guy if you give him 25 times a game to do that would Tony dungy talked about that you said -- heard him say what Bob Sanders made touchdown saving tackles three times if you give him more than 13 opportunities is probably going to break one right -- you can give it to him he's not going to break in but at the same thing it's time now okay they've brought him along slowly."

[1:38:44]" The first to have -- here is that here -- go of this guy 2025 care we ago here we go -- disappointed in the result the pats game at a try to look at the positive path played like crap had a chance to tide in the -- just some observations as they cruise NFL Sunday ticket one. -- right the bears or fraud team Miami dominated them in only -- Harry kept Chicago in the game. To Denver is not all they're cracked up to be in addition they suffered a few defensive injuries that appear to be serious against the Steelers. Three Pittsburgh is playing like an expansion -- stupid penalties and sloppy play powers won his title -- appears he has lost interest was burned out. For Indianapolis is clearly the number one team in the NFL right now. But can they win in the playoffs with that horrible defects. Overall the league is wide open and it's excluded but I would look out for San Diego schottenheimer can get over his mismanagement a playoff games I see them as a real contender for the title."

[1:39:46]" Good email I think here. I was going to take exception to the Miami dominated -- but is on his that's -- it if you count turnovers is dominating that that's fine he stay consistent throughout the email and talked about the colts over the patriots the same way so. I I agree with that and we just made the same comment about schottenheimer with that -- ago so this guy some -- Rutgers on TV critics Otto you know become an you know what's coming up -- it. Rutgers Louisville the big game -- well that's you know -- that I TV. That's probably not -- it is it's Thursday night is an artist and I say again. Ma that's active could you idiots who would have been -- that you sound like Allen with a."

[1:40:33]" This Jim -- don't know why were able Cincinnati Syracuse and West Virginia the raptors. And it. Lucky they went on those that are -- they immediately go to lose as the Romeo rates -- sept guise of Atlanta where patriots fans are far few between anyway what is -- has since deal. We got probably has another NFL injury I don't know what that means an NFL injury. -- and in what the NFL injury I don't know. Anyway -- look at disguised to afford exceptions were Brady made some bad throws but it was the guy in the red sweat sheer. Yes for the first time it was -- ballots in guys they hate the colts two but let's be realistic patent has two receivers that would be stars at any team let's keep it fair. That's Lisa yeah but I still think -- means pretty good market take anything away from Peyton Manning all because those guys so good. How do you think right and it isn't -- use -- a -- Harrison was there Reggie Wayne I don't know people remember this during his second or third season people were with us boss. How do you think he got that good. Working with Harrison a man anybody that -- got that good about it things that -- would be great which like Brady -- we talked -- in the offseason when you when you look at los givens and then all of a sudden it was a chance to going to -- branches of east over the degree. And he will be other than the touchdown reception against decency -- what Brandon -- do before he got the Indianapolis I don't remember him. You know have a thousand yards receiving in his career either I think. Though the most important part of that email is. For the first time we're seeing people will really questioning bill ballots it in this game. Now assuming he's making the calls or at least helping Josh beat Daniels with the offensive game plan and I was looking at the side of my game plan has yet and I and I was looking at the sideline in. The conference's you know when Brady was off the field belichick and the Daniels were -- not all of those who wasn't just beat Daniels and Brady was a three of them. So you could actually by the waited three Indians it's tipped even though I felt like. Three of them the only one I didn't think was on Brady was the last. Right now that was clearly I thought that was that bought my you know the one deep down the seem to have been wants me to -- a bat well it was a terrible throw it out and it was and saying you're -- that tipped ball that was tiptoe yeah Rodney at Robertson bill North Carolina kill cats the show -- I don't know if the subject has been covered enough. Is it just me or where the defensive backs giving way too much cushion to the wide receivers I've needed to ask someone that could see the whole feel -- not just the broadcast view. From the team beat TV perspective it was like ten yard comeback -- were killing us I claim not to be defensive experts -- soon. There was some reason why the wide receivers weren't being pressed let me know your thoughts and Tom thread in Gary equals the 18. Okay Fred spelling in -- came back at it and do it anyway we've talked about it they put -- a cushion that they were giving people I at that they mix that up to me."

[1:43:48]" I did too I thought member I kept saying why is -- so close to errors that are wired they just all the pairs of I mean day in the second half I thought they came up a little bit more especially on Harrison. And he just hop you know if you come up bottom -- idea if you play back full stop it's you know loses its top of offenses that gets to cover you it's is its -- he's going to die either way."

[1:44:12]" I thought of very funny moment the game was probably midway -- the third quarter Mike Felder from the -- and ESPN radio came over -- and -- you know. All up in arms and why why why they give -- such a big cushion why did. You know outlook kinetic they'd take out of the huddle and and nowhere to go -- and they've got you got you got its serial right up but right in Paris and scroll and are out right in the wings grow and Ann -- I didn't and the and Harrison's grill and he goes oh all on this -- but it it and they don't generally do with a saint paying rent out if you listen to the post game comments at least two -- three I think Samuel said its earnings Seymour said -- me and I think Colvin may have said this well if you do the same thing against the colts they will kill you. If you just go out there have one thing that you try to do they'll find a way to kill you wouldn't. And you have to yet to mix things up yet change and again you can't discount the fact that Rodney Harrison was not an act."

[1:45:09]" Also I think Tom's -- on the with the fact that when the patriots were making hay really playing press coverage in knocking guys off routes he had Ty Law. And that guy who can take one guy and shut him down were one half of the field allows you to do that you know gives you that little you know extra manned -- he used for puppet run. I mean look at Harrison against the Broncos and I had him valium was able to control him I mean now. Obviously they played it wrong they left the other quarter 35 yards off a -- him but one thing I'll say about me -- it seems like things are simple simpler this year I don't see is much to the point needed do this in this in this."

[1:45:52]" It didn't seem like there was snapping the ball with one -- on the play -- all the time and outside I think that's a very underrated part of the game and I think that teams that do that they that are constantly snapping the ball to second 12 on the play clock. Put themselves in a big to advance his acting cute you allow the defense to get off. The candidate they they can get off on the on the snap because they know that you have to snap the ball if you look at -- the play clock in this 12 left right and now let's face you can see that stuff -- FL stadium. You know what it is ten seconds on the play clock and you get -- his stance and you look and me and now mitigating gettin' ready you know woman during the expert. For 38 seconds you know they have snapped the ball you know. There's a show on Bob Sanders on TV in all the stuff -- that would also that would talking about Rodney Harrison and his injury and I don't know what they said about it. Pharmacy he heard it could be a rotator -- well that's I -- those of the herald said today that that was reported eagle Tribune that indicated that it it was a torn rotator -- now I couldn't find the report in the eagle Tribune that said I don't know what the implication of a rotator cuff and football is torn rotator cup result of the really he had he'd have no strength initial -- I opened last year."

[1:47:05]" Without a rotator -- let's say Bob says perhaps -- open up for me when -- beat Daniels calls placed as he -- with bill -- before -- serious or before each play or does -- have the autonomy to call plays -- series of plays he sees -- I guess what I'm getting yet and it is school decided to abandon the run."

[1:47:24]" In the third quarter tactic islam while doing it there was a guy down in Dallas she might hurt my name Sean Payton and the cow was like to run the ball on third and 12 -- to take a beating down -- for doing so. -- pay it -- New Orleans -- use April for 400 yards a game cowboys still run the ball third 12. That's because people Parcells has final say over -- play call on the cowboys the same thing is true here. And he played it goes through the telecheck knows what it is he has say in it don't think that ballots exit on the sidelines like art shell were his -- don't work he's just watch in the game this about the case. So if you're going to blame somebody you gotta blame."

[1:48:05]" Head coach. Okay so when things go right if you give credit to their credit I think we have so -- early -- that's not and that means a short pays the head coach at north. So he gets the credit for what the world is the world profits idea but to think that that belichick look I think that Josh Martinez calls the plays a Kennedy individual player I think that judgment -- calls them I didn't write my husband is I think that first of all belichick would without question be able to say. We're running the ball here always throwing the ball right on any play. Number two. Josh materials in my opinion calls the plays with what bill belichick has in mind if they go in with a game plan that has formulated in my in my view by -- during the course of the week in implemented by Mitch Daniels on Sunday. There's a difference there just like epic Tom just said Sean Payton wasn't running the ball on third and 12 because he thought that was the best thing to do that's -- check. Instructed him to do during the course of the week that the play actually get called by Sean Payton yeah probably but with the knowledge of that's what ballots that's what Parcells wanted him to do that's the way it works. Well it Beatrice ago by you know that it's one of those things that you never find out exactly how lucky I do now it's an installation I just finally got a lot -- 335 max if direction where. But when you got guys like Jimmy Johnson a Parcells rebel attack there's nothing going on in the entire game it's not going through that golfers like that."

[1:49:35]" You know it ballots it is said this before -- I don't want to make too big -- deal but the way he said this goes back that. How I interpret things and you guys make -- sometime but after the game and -- patriots Monday yesterday belichick -- you know it was just the bad coaching job. I just need to coach better. He said that just like that but -- and I sent but he does say that after every loss he says we need to coach better but he would the way he said it explicit pictures Freitas I just need to coach better. The way he said it was I I know there was specific things that he thinks he screwed up on in the game and one of them I hope. Is not giving the -- tomorrow anymore. I hope. You might be right all right I don't think that that's Italy for a one when he says that -- it it's the way he said it that I just knew that he was disappointed in himself. Ryan in London England after the disappointing United's seventh 2002 season the patriots open their checkbooks decide Roosevelt Colvin after winning the next two years it was assumed the players. Could be brought in or retain from below market value with that enhance the price paid for what was available on the salary cap. The patriots falls short this year. I think it will pay above market value to sign players but this might still be an off year part of the strategy the place value on players in not to fundamentally overpay. Remember that superior coaching is a premium that is likely to entice players decide for less because of July -- because of the larger gaps have depth at linebacker receiver and quarterback the patriots might sign a marquee veteran -- two in the off season. But if they really make an effort they should be able to as was true regarding Colvin Harrison after the disappointing 2000 Tutsis what's the view what's the PFW view what what free agents -- the --"

[1:51:29]" Well no players going to come here for Alaska's bill belichick is the coach if another team was offered him five million dollars more it's just not going to happen. Now a deal is Thomas from I know as a free agent from Baltimore they let him go they should be killed -- that I want to wait and see it was a -- we don't know and we don't know -- a free agent and and you won't know that until. In Holland it so that that stuff comes out mean like Tom says he's scheduled to be a free agent as of now that a lot can change between now when in the time that he would be available which would be -- marched in early march when that when the -- year begins"

[1:52:06]" let's -- Kyle is on the ball he writes the our sins of the article by Hector Luongo. Mom says that according to a source close to -- the eagle Tribune has learned that the fear is that Harrison damaged the rotator -- for the children that he will undergo an MRI today it was that the damage."

[1:52:26]" Okay -- that's not a torn rotator -- than he has damage to the rotator -- that's -- the same thing so I would say that this still hope if that's even if that's accurate. Right -- the MRI would show how much damage that was but if it's -- torn rotator cuff I would say he's okay"

[1:52:42]" Eric at Manchester backing up Tommy says the -- a protein bars plenty south like over 500 calories time should be taking in 2000 less that they -- on Tom and data Tom Brady's velocity. So -- go to town someone backing you up but -- nutrition habits what do you have for dinner. I have a sensible manner that's that's that is is -- weight watchers slim fast. Now I have a a reasonable bitterly cheek in her you have chicken in every male ego they don't like hamburgers and stuff without problems."

[1:53:17]" Okay -- like -- that what a lot of it -- to school next email says frustrated in New Jersey didn't -- at -- say it you have a good idea what you're team is around the sixth or seventh week so what are we have a good team a better than average AFC team but not a playoff caliber team. How does this get fixed I just get this feeling that of Moroni was on the other team he'd be airing -- the highlight clips this year."

[1:53:46]" I think that are good team. I don't announced on understand what what constitutes a good team in a playoff caliber team of six and two doesn't. Whilst -- be all -- their playoff caliber team of definitely but will what will they do make it that you make it sound like they were thoroughly outclassed in the two games they played against Denver Indianapolis that was the case. Well I mean they could not put anything on offense against Denver now they couldn't. Nothing they couldn't but I don't I wouldn't say that was the case against the -- now live in one of the problems is -- games for a home that used to be a place where nobody came in and one. Good teams are accommodated it's definitely a robbery on the basis but I just don't understand why one week we've we win one game and it in its Super Bowl or bust in the next did you lose a game and I'll -- you can't beat anybody right side Perot I like. I like it -- I mean almost all of the playoffs that's that's a bigger audience that is I'm remarkably consistent. I might not be right but -- consist. -- every out proved to be dead aren't as bad as it looks at it's never as good isn't exactly an an and when we win and I talk like this I'm considered the negative guy only lose that talk like this I'm considered a homer. Although this particularly given a cover rod magazine I guess -- market. Well let me I think it was I -- I think is it -- right deliberately give. Troy brown his -- I just -- the -- acknowledging the fact that we lost the game a little bit I was thinkin' no matter what I was gonna put Troy brad on the cover and I just think that if not now when when he when he got to give him is this similar though it demonstrated as two way it was too late to argue with this just I just think that. You know constantly losing the good teams is a problem it."

[1:55:28]" Reflects that it really -- after the game we have cover. Newspaper reflecting the outcome of the game but happy ending I've I've put us agree comer I've put Troy brown on the cover 'cause he broke it was a cop always cinemanow victims created I told him no matter what Troy brown was -- The likely effects what's he broke the record I was going to put him on the cover no matter what. I think he deserves -- he thank he had caught three passes last week you have been on the cover yet he broke the record don't want to you know -- quarterback off absolutely"

[1:56:03]" pick up over the same thing as you well okay. In scuzzy guys harp on the negative. You know as the guy who broke -- its record it'll all excited that rich guys tell that sucks horny that what do you got to honor that at the end of the season. But it withering of I think those the kinds of covers that dead -- the house -- I guess that's you know being the leader is not wearing about what other people at. What right -- what's right Brett telecheck over here in particular right so stupid belichick -- would have -- and -- he's got out in my zoos from Rancho mirage California let's face it the best way for the pats to beat the colts that they played in the post season is to lose them. Lose to them in the regular season -- nowadays played best when they have a chip on the shoulder like I didn't and Christian on the side I'm now convinced they played better on faster surfaces the let's get synthetic grass for next year please you guys need to play more rob zombie as your bumper music. I agree -- the I think it's great that he added a lot of songs to a what's this."

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[1:57:38]" In the DC yes he's he's all pumped -- this is what I look for to the most on Tuesday it is talking college football accomplice I also think. John you have to think that West Virginia losing the game is better. There's no doubt there's certainly no doubt now it's an entirely in and please Tom feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here is an -- you will but it's entirely possible. And believable that Texas can end up -- in the national title game against the -- no question because that Louisville's -- lose even this week or against Pittsburgh sleek and put that in the books older dog. Florida stinks he'll lose somewhere along the lines antlers in the SEC championship game to get pretty easily -- I think if if West Virginia had one now I think they would have gotten spot where his legal wins on a much that they well. Yeah I think that there's a little but I'm sure they well -- the big thing here Paul is is that Louisville is still seen as. Somewhat of a less server -- contender because Michael bush went out the first week of the year and it -- Well they don't have a very -- the island is going to get exposed sooner or later in and I and I am I'm hoping that that happens actually I think I'll be rooting for our view on Thursday night at a funeral for rockers -- anywhere they -- go all the undefeated they want uncle Arnold national championship you have your your bureau your voice cold McCoy continues to improve every week -- It's going to be one more -- giant you agreeing with me that they just did not get the Baltimore own hands enough in the second half yeah I would have to does say that certainly part of it but I. I would also you know grew I think with the mainstream here that I mean the needs to be any you know jumping off the ship but you know the fact remains is that you know the two teams that lost to the two best teams in the AFC -- over the last you know few years there what a combined 16 now against the perceived top 3 teams in the AFC the beating all the lesser lights and they're not beating the teams that they're supposed to be up there with. So I mean that is going to continue to hang over this football team until they finally do -- team that. You know at least there's some doubt about and in I don't know that's going to be solved it between now and the end the regular season I'd I don't see that are army should win -- frankly a look at the schedule with the exception of Chicago. The issue when the rest of these games should be favored to win the rest these games in the fact that Chicago was here at least we think of at least they'll have at least. An average chance of beating the bears but until they can do it against out of the cold for the Broncos there should be some -- rightfully so then they'll be favored probably in every -- I'm sure they'll be favored an -- at Chicago every game and so now. Tell me I want you to project down though you know eight weeks from now into this team doesn't that 14 in two. Willis to be the same 14 intuit what was a couple of years ago while I think the -- the BTUs -- 14 to be enough for the buy and it probably will I think it will be absolutely totally and if it is and I think yes you know I think if they get a by then. I have no used to -- Jacksonville 12 -- six I think yet playing jackal especially Jacksonville has something that they have to play -- of the words and and the patriots have long since clinched. Which you know they can certainly take a major step toward doing this next week but you know I think that will be -- problematic but I don't see this the world disagree I don't think of this 14 into if it happens it's still hardship -- it's not the same as what was a couple of years ago because your losses or to the other heavyweights. In your own car I graphics that PFW run about patriots record against playoff team and I can remember one of the years the -- on a -- my -- which one it was now but they had a losing record against teams -- winning records was the first one with an item that might have been the first one but we did ultimately turned out but Paul that's it that's -- with a playoff run that lets you didn't stop for two years now since I've been here you know they would be hardly any good teams so I mean he can't just gloss over that well I'm not crossing over I'm just saying if they go 14 and two I think that they've gone they've made steps to fix that. Yes that's odd thing that that are then that I will agree with either or the steps going in the right direction absolutely. Had they finish the job they're not even anywhere close -- even starting the job I have tables then we'll start the job when they not call the Denver or in Indianapolis in the AFC right you know semifinals or finals are right that's. Going to do it for this this -- the PFW progress we'll see you tomorrow let the Mulroney began"