Patriots Roster Report - 6/15/2007

[9:44] ..." and -- to one that is and we should mention also Matt Gutierrez the undrafted rookie is also in camp and guys he's via the third got a roster I would say he has a"...

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[0:28]" I think origami -- with a roster report. A week after the patriots mini camp and -- shortly after we signed off on last week's podcast the patriots made a couple of moves that we'll just bring you real quick. They -- a couple of defensive linemen were shot more and Kenny met both guys with a little bit of NFL experience look at it. Current -- follow the patriots in the act upcoming training camp and they released long snapper Tony case I get on his performance in the otherwise dark studied. Longest drive competition -- hatred golf tournament a week ago was not enough for him to -- it -- to make it on the winning Hollywood line contest competed they want but you know all otherwise -- studded event. Tony -- also contributed but on he will not be Lonnie Paxton training camp competition for long snapper or why taxed him breathing a sigh of relief Paul absolutely agreed. Absolutely a little concerned with the depth there while blogs now -- Well there's one there's one guy at that position and one -- I guess we'll I'll leave it at that long snapper they did -- a couple of defensive lineman now as far as defensive line is concerned they they hadn't made too many moves or not isn't a pretty good position they drafted Korean brown and of course that the the unfortunate tragic passing of -- help I mean these two guys are doing what you guys know about were shot more Kenny Smith. Could they compete for -- fifth -- six defensive line Russian."

[1:54]" We'll Kenny Smith I no solid point guard out of North Carolina had a nice out I MBA career with a -- I'm not even doing pretty good job on TV and -- both guys were in college when he's a watcher especially Kenny Smith thought he was really good book. And really done much in the NFL loses more kinda damp night and -- only the 80 -- signing last year maybe bring in a veteran will be hit the lottery. You know with a with a free ticket there. And one portable developers even out of football last year and it that was it yeah. -- was with the jets right right."

[2:26]" Smith lastly for the readers in all five much for played for the jet last year and -- played in 13 games only 11 tackles he forced the -- it's not like -- you know compile a lot of -- a lot of that every deploying 13 games in division you know could even just the hey what -- you what you know but the jets you know the --"

[2:44]" Their -- also below is that. But the fact that he did play for the jets it's worked in the opposite that he does come in with knowledge of the estimate -- think it's usually -- talking about Patriot -- go to the -- right you know obvious answer but. You know as a back up -- roster type. Maybe that knowledge you know that that little extra knowledge of what he's doing might give him a leg up you know strictly as a deputy here we're talking brought on. Both of them probably long shot stick around but right. You know you're right there's a couple of guys that aren't going to be in the pitchers that probably thought were most notably Mark he's still so. You know it will if it's going to be agency home."

[3:22]" Need a -- you're gonna have to keep it -- in the defensive line is they're pretty much three years of -- patriot defense wants to get the cars get more warn him Wilfork and dies. Probably need to be the best trio of defensive lineman in the weak then you've got Jarvis Green and Mike Wright who are at the back up and those are. The next bit young -- did the death Jarvis Green Mike right are definitely four -- five on the depth chart. And then after that you've got guys like Korean brown Santonio Thomas will be -- in --"

[3:52]" sometimes there's an opening a lead of -- guys came in played well runners at an opening there's no guarantee that -- that -- are -- looking at those guys and and you like to think that those guys that you've had a practice like Alex Antonio Tom example been around for two years now. He would like to think that he would be at a level that he's ready yet to make the active roster but you know a dialect were shot moral or Kenny Smith. I don't I'm not going to pretend to know much about them but. What am I going to be stunned if one of those guys make that team over a Antonio Tom -- Korean brown no way."

[4:24]" And what do comes down to like a lot of these positions is how many can you keep it deposition and any you keep one more than maybe you'd like weight -- which position is that it away from -- That's what will the and in a long way to go before we really have a chance at a Nike to Brian I think you're right. He won't just keep guys because he feels like he needs X amount defensive -- if he doesn't think that Thomas or brown or any these two new guys to ever roster spot right. He's not going to keep and he says as -- say this earnings in the past. Not that early a Antonio -- were -- Moore who makes a team it's were shot Moore for Garrett mills. It were shot Moore for his Kelvin tight it's Rashad -- verses what we -- its seventh. Offensive line men verses eight -- you know you don't mean it it comes out that not -- Brian. Yeah well I don't look on your face that was -- little to smile at a -- going back that Kenny Smith point guard -- you know a funny business you know they they figure well known for. Now absolutely it was a real Bob I don't watch complex attack horrible as well well -- always has. As entertaining if not more then the analyzing the seven defensive lineman on the Tibetans and paid a -- our report. -- what other position now what will I I just want to talk about is quarterback and I crede will probably be the quarterback probably like easy I think it's going to come now Tom -- He's going to come down to Tom receiver Kenny Smith on August 20 ninth whatever roster deadline Kenny at this facilitate his. It should be put. Obviously -- a -- back back. Tom you know the patriot in past couple years they've brought in Doug Flutie they've -- Jim Miller late last season Vinny Testaverde after having only two quarterback. Is it surprising at all that the patriots haven't gone after age and experience. Quarterback to back up Tom Brady are not talking about Vinny Testaverde -- has loads of experience but as spell check that when he signed last year he threat he's an emergency quarterback. -- council's only NFL playing time has come in in a backup role in an in a role where it you know games -- like him I think it'll compared to other guys available or -- I don't -- much of an upgrade your goal of the young guys that if something did happen to Brady. If I blow signs embodied both for either of -- I think they like counsel when he brings the table."

[6:48]" and -- and in light of that I'm not always -- that they haven't gone out and and try to bring someone in. And I remember back who knew you mentioned Flutie and RB -- the -- Sort of take on met that -- said in and used it you know and any way to try to back up a point but. He did say during that -- he's in the one -- that he was here. That they put a lot on the quarterback here they expect a lot out of the quarterback in and a lot of the responsibilities in the off fans if it's difficult and obviously you know what you want to both Flutie but he's been around a lot of years it was around for a lot of a lot of different teams in a lot of different systems. Different leagues he saw the quarterback position from about a in many different ways you can possibly he would. For him to say that. Here knowing when it was a little bit more difficult. Then maybe the norm told me that maybe castle as a guy who's been around now for three years. Tom might be right maybe he's better then to -- in a guy who made has been in the league 78 years but not been in the patriot system. You know as a back up may be better off with castle and we all like -- skills and we just don't know about. What look you know when push comes -- what happened because we've never seen it in and hopefully we never we'll have to."

[8:09]" And he you know he he. We all know it or he didn't play much at US either so it's really been -- high school that he -- regular starting roll now. Obviously they like him enough they've liked him enough and they drafted him to help keep this -- of quarterbacks are their real well it -- let me that that is the question you know. So maybe they just feel the values I'll that are that position we have a guy who we think can flourish in -- as -- Hanson. -- a Jeff Garcia type it but it it turns out you know last year with eagles white is right guy right right situation it worked perfectly. That doesn't -- to off now as we know Vinny Testaverde not under contract right now but he's been with the team for all that we've seen in terms of these offseason camps the mini camp the passing camp. On whether or not you've got a room that he will be signed at some point"

[8:58]" yeah I I don't really understand. You know the the way this is the -- working out I I could understand it if they continued to have him my speed dial and said in a wide. You've been around for you know 115 years we understand you don't necessarily need to go the whole lot he's in program and and maybe even all the training camp. Well have you will call you when we need you right like we did last year. I can understand that but as a veteran he's doing all the hard work or not it under contract and I understand it's probably. Some sort of agreement in place that -- that the sides but that doesn't make a lot of."

[9:33]" And I don't want it to taper yes it's not like Vinny Testaverde is -- be signing with another -- competition -- is now he's probably to -- for the patriots or not playing at all I would -- and -- to one that is and we should mention also Matt Gutierrez the undrafted rookie is also in camp and guys he's via the third got a roster I would say he has a much stronger. Much stronger possibility to stick around for the practice squad in the guys that would relax -- and into what yeah -- or. Yeah it seems like what he had a little bit of a better pedigree in terms of you know you. Went to Michigan didn't quite work out an armada. Yeah I'm just judge I'm like ballots are now care -- they didn't college -- judgment based on what I are many it only coach in the guys were here. Right right and if it was a game tomorrow he he could play as he does them. Last players to play to lineup we'll let it -- let's fortunately there's still about three months until exactly but I did I do with Tom I think that what we are on the practice field. Gutierrez was you know showed a better -- Bramlet or more and it flashed him absolutely are able to stop points out that another touchdown -- score their Tom. -- were able -- for the cardinals and we've quickly to an end 18 14 out the type I 35."

[10:50]" That's going to wrap up but it's entertaining edition of the patriot roster report. Murillo in top Italian -- hold back again next week let's put it back to warrant."

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