PFW in Progress - 10/4/2007

Thu, 4 Oct 2007

Tune into this edition of PFW in Progress as we preview all the week five games and offer our picks. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, Tom and newcomer Erik Scalavino as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Listen LIVE Tuesday - Friday at noon (ET) and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 1:20[1:20]" All right here we are VFW progress this -- fault rule India are Indy was already -- before -- I'm here. We'll give -- chance if it's stupid comments that it -- a couple minutes the F web radio patriots that 5085 or 37 or eight to me it is -- that it is -- back we're waiting for next week's big cowboy game but we got brown on the way. Easy win yeah. We can't even get you know on the way to succeed we've we disagree so much that we couldn't even keep -- little arguments and disagreements it took for the start of the show you know we're always going that is what's -- automatic updates. I mean a plate later -- later -- currently don't do it. It was my best impression of -- you know I misread what he's gone again try to be like -- every element is -- one of those stretches of like meetings in this and that where we are fairly easily today is -- forgot about Cincinnati chance in years ago I was Vegas -- year old blonde girls. -- Everett my Chad Johnson messages to your question. So what's going on you guys -- locker room well have quite the limited day as Indy. Started in on. I was just and -- I need it."

Play from 2:47[2:47]" when it's on the -- bull by the patriots players have T shirts on courtesy of a -- promise most of the patriots players if they. Manila lockers most -- wearing them some who may need them don't have them on on the front it as I -- in on the back is thank you. Oh that a little message today kind of stay grounded evidently and he would -- dale Thomas what do you well as other -- was actually better in the slogan he put on the T shirts that he had made be humble or get humbled was his quote apparently something his dad that quote. On sort of drilled into him early in life and and he thinks it was appropriate this time he said the guys kind of liked it so he he -- a made in. That he did not run by bill -- the bill's approval on the answered -- bill approved of this project as bill so yeah. It most the players Panama. Tom Brady didn't I'm just saying it. Superstar -- role able to dating he may or may not of the we have that blue thing on on top. He's certainly liberty I guess I just broke back Tom Brady did not have -- on the -- I I actually question on as you walked by. And he didn't -- can give him much -- respond not play he just like shook his head I -- it's a -- I -- right. But nine and -- locker room had a Monday seemed to be a big hit. I think it just like the rest of us free teacher everyone loves free -- I think I thought was interest in today in the locker room was Rodney Harrison was there again obviously he spoke at length to everybody yesterday. It was funny today everybody seemed to go up to him individually. You know -- my guess is in an effort to maybe uncover. A morsel of information that you know was was left out yesterday Lloyd may be some mid summer to get on the wrong but no fewer than five. Media members went up to him individually spoke to him for a few minutes number not necessarily like yesterday but. You know -- one of those guys generally isn't going to blow it off we got the anyway has -- that was interest in both dynamic quality young couple people from the globe I think to each from the globe and herald one up to him rotation pitcher lighted seat attitude approach though -- miss that show patriot ledger definitely just original dynamic and Rodney was you know more than cordial and everybody even 19 in particular that he had an issue with. Something that was written. But you know give everybody time that has taught us all feel he's a good guy. That's what we've learned on the football field he plays like a crazed animal and Randy martz called me homey I'm going to -- home because just to paint the picture -- Lexus paint the picture. For some reason all the media when they see Randy moss they fall into his locker and then hover about eight feet away. But no one actually goes up and says Randy got a minute. So I said and he pulse story that's because the -- good pulse story Randi got a minute. On a puck that and I say it's a -- of that promise he said I keep my word homey. Because of that -- losses never done anything wrong in his life according to be nothing to do that I. As who needed a suit he did what he does. He do what he does does he do -- that bonds has grown about Tom Brady that's one of my favorite comments of all time that was a good one."

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Play from 6:20[6:20]" And as a Paul pointed out Laurence Maroney Chad Jackson -- Thomas and others were playing the age old can't look at the little circle with your hand game the bulls -- again you know this one -- So was is it Dale's Thomas than Tedy Bruschi he seems to be a leader in the locker room was coming up with slogans for the team is he kinda I don't replace Bruschi on the field office well from what I've seen people like -- bills Thomas -- like Tedy Bruschi. Minors -- resilient really screw around I have I -- young guys I have literally seemed Bruschi in the locker room lately like you know he's passes that are around that he watched the rule. And like I've in a business business like way what did you like on the on the way to go from one place to the other. You know like I'm going down equipment remind -- Sox need tape by an need to get into the training room for something he never seems to be in the locker many more. You know for leisure time right. But I've never seen him be. Playing games well it's ideals Tom got different act different kinds personnel -- yet no question that they got kind of hard for him he's he's kind of -- the guy here. You know it's gotta be hard if if people he's -- that the patriots Tedy -- you know what I mean and now you get a -- comedy play your position -- in all the playing time everyone's -- because -- I put up with T -- the -- because he's here I think it's easy for Junior -- a -- oh -- as he left the place where he had -- career I think -- Junior -- stay in San Diego and -- somebody was playing over him and he. Was kind of pushed then I think it's yeah I think it's hard for Tedy Bruschi. A junior sales loving life 'cause these are rolling out when a rink he's look at -- I'm in my 18 year I'm still playing at a high level we're beyond our guitar February goes to relax like unbelievable. Who who's happier -- Donte' Stallworth."

Play from 8:11[8:11]" No one's happier than -- say about -- no one's happier than Donte' Stallworth. Eddie -- get a few catches the original about a guy who would ever complain if you didn't catch a pass for six weeks you got a year. I just there's gotta be some that why does he keep going from team to team. -- a pretty good player he's everyone loves a little locker room you know what I mean. -- at least -- Padilla and Owens one make sense to me. Because -- it was a high traffic invested a lot of money in and he couldn't stay there. You know at some point you just say you know what we gotta cut our losses here and and do something the Philadelphia won makes no sense to me. He had a good productive year yes he was banged up an injured but they have no receivers and he was productive for them. Made no sense -- Andy just into it if you remember when McKee did. When he -- and didn't but then at some point. When he had lunch with Tom Brady in the north and whatever he begged him come here."

Play from 9:11[9:11]" And then went up the out. More of your your people -- definitely told me that story that Tom Brady had lunch with Donte' Stallworth in the north and Boston was that like when he was visiting his fight for the free agent visit India okay I'm thinking more like the -- that Thomas. I remember at the end of the year last year and into the beginning of the offseason. The Philadelphia papers or writing to a man he'll be back right he's a free agent in name only he's not going anywhere. And all of a sudden he's visiting everywhere what was so -- he says I want you suckers had that yet things haven't happened before. That I -- changed and I don't know what I saw money ESPN with Westbrook they were so there he was about what you love Philadelphia played with the -- You know lead in the when he grows and they definitely they just seems happy and says everything you know doesn't want to hear I don't think Philadelphia offer him anything. And I think that's what part is very surprising that the patriots. He's not a one year deal her. He seems legit lightly mentally goes -- like that I don't I don't offerman I think ultimately I think things go on in his -- don't go on the -- people's heads that. Maybe he's quite the character -- Thank god for us to go any lower it's easy to look at that the dollar contract now and say what a bad contract is for the player. But I have a bad can't think back to -- think back to when he signed it though he's look at coming in I'm going to come in as -- got wrecked. -- forget really moss wasn't around yet I think that was more of it Brady telling him you're going to be Mike right in at the time and others might be mad at that time that was probably true and the guy white -- in 30 passes and remember we had we had talks and they -- People just automatically assumed he was going to be a one year now. Right and we said no life becomes -- catch every every five balls. Average it was every hole well roll right now I would be here averages 18 yard catch not maybe -- you know seven to ten touchdowns. Why would they have him back even though it's going to cost them 11 more million next. They definitely would now with marching in. He's -- Mannesmann. You know I'll you know as bill -- says you may be a homeless man I mean he's he's the same -- receiver who just Simmons awful tight he just doesn't happen now just doesn't have the same. Impact doesn't have the same amount of ability but he's the same style receiver that rainy Macias doesn't -- the same Haynes. That's the biggest difference does have the same anything he's not he's not there at the hesitated route runner than me right Mark I think that he -- the instincts for the game doesn't cabinet wide audience."

Play from 11:46[11:46]" No matter how to get opening catch the ball high and always drop the past and they can't catch but according to Andy I told you the first day I watched on the practice field has no -- that's exactly my point and Everett and that is -- that he doesn't -- he does I'm going. He's the only player receiver with hands anymore -- want to -- receiver to now certainly -- it accurate -- guys have better hands than Donte' Stallworth but I hate to declare I would I would never got a receiver now it's that even champions like Randy -- no one or I didn't even say. I don't think anybody he -- now and that's what keeps him from being good that's I wanted to be clear about I don't think that if there's any comparison between two I don't want to be misunderstood many -- is at a level that. You know all the rest that image is kind of inspiring to be in moss can do things that nobody else can do I mean like you were Saint Paul on that touchdown catch for what -- it would over jewels of how to -- stay involved he was like -- It already did this guy whose -- skinny he looks like a caller okay when he actually our football about it in his late so parallel to the ground. When he actually caught the ball and actually had help. With the momentum because he he kind of bent at the way when he hit Joseph on the way down and that helped. Get the momentum of his legs back down to the ground but I don't think it is. I just don't that there aren't other receivers that are going to make that -- I don't think anybody has his natural ability and even keel I think he's the poster boy for HDH I mean I think he worked hard and I think. But I mean he doesn't have that physical ability like most he's the only guy I've seen it can do what he does it's just amazing. Well -- Yes though wells -- locker room Dave Thomas not. Dave Thomas -- Marcellus rivers and we didn't we have value if the shows that correct later yet. Although Thomas has done as much as we thought he had in -- might be decent receive an option obviously Vince young made him. The -- makes a lot of people well I mean. Have we found out that -- Thomas can't play though we -- out now he -- her in terms of this year's team was irrelevant when he was on and is a relevant now he's no longer than I mean like bill at news only on it. -- right but he wasn't going to be -- and Watson. And he's not an option in the offense last December when we didn't think -- options on the offense. I understand what you're saying about the options and in the patriots 2007 offense but. I don't think there's any indictment on his ability now -- there -- that he's been injured all -- talking about Vince young making -- to and I I think he's got as nice hands I think he I think he still has potential as a player just that an unfortunate injury. Plagued his injuries -- those acts as big irony that's. A fat Ty Law trying to run down the field they're actually right in for a guy I think that's probably. I think he's pretty athletic for a tight end David Thomas but I don't think he's blazing speed eye Mickey is pretty athletic I think he has. You know good ability to get open some good quickness but I'm not -- really fast and to break a foot maybe lose a tenth of a second off you speed and I can be big for like that apparently break. Points and the things plus I think it'll hurt you when you get injured early in your career like there's a bunch of times but I think at some point someone else is going to. -- by -- and other guys they draft order. And I think you'll adapt to wary of that it's not like parolee who's kind of been banged up at least he's an all the airplane and it honestly hasn't had a chance in the of Italy to be on the field the situation it's -- for a few years it's going to be Watson and somebody you'll still patriots to be somebody. I would do without -- which has to be somebody's well Brady retires he'll walk. -- Marcellus rivers will be gone again you gotta think this is Brady's last year I would think especially if they win and he can glow in the rain. Then walk normally hope if there is light and fly those little puddle jumpers that he's an idiot for and I don't believe that every time we drive that those at the airport he's bigger than the plane yeah I'd just. I don't get. That's it"

Play from 15:52[15:52]" and Yeltsin locker room -- Sunday serials playing doubles as always with Eugene Wilson there's a nice little duo there. Neither one of them talking anybody in Norman going to be a -- actually a potentially"

Play from 16:07[16:07]" I think quilt block and -- built talked about. Now than. -- in. Now much today just Josh Joshua -- talk idea apparently that is the only chance the browns have the current bills been really. Emphasize in the Joshua Cribbs things token I assume if Hansen does step on the field that one time and I think -- from Joshua Cribbs. Or noticed -- 34 yards straight up in the year which. Either way -- either way I don't expect -- have much chance to return almost the thing -- as most dangerous that it is kickoffs is only going to get one of the older probably so well as they -- the -- They -- the ball away from. Based on what bill saying yes. And -- consider you know onside kick -- he really thinks that's the only way to get momentum and you know -- score I would just ask and then. That make any sense to me."

Play from 17:00[17:00]" Why would you only get one opportunity -- a kickoff."

Play from 17:06[17:06]" I think you make it to a seven -- had rivers are a --"

Play from 17:12[17:12]" I was at -- NL and I was actually think about thinking about the ponson then Gallagher get too many opportunities to get -- but yeah I had reversed again opportunity or else you'll -- opportune -- so that's why I was aren't taken away from even if -- travel clearly -- 40 if it's 38 now -- you -- we start it it will. I don't know and we seen Stephen Gostkowski try to take away -- get a -- and he's also early in the year here I think you know. The -- hasn't played to again and deep enough. As explosive as bill makes -- sound you know taken at the 40 might not be a bad option."

Play from 17:51[17:51]" All right pretty good now. -- is pretty hill as the host they showed you know Molina and males taking a break we don't some."

Play from 17:58[17:58]" A list of emails Saturday and he liked to email any of them a subs are on the way -- someone's yelling at Oslo for a asking about want to incidentally that -- look at them a little while we have Steve from -- first off the AT vidro for Wednesday's show brilliant. Following up with the shawshank intro was pretty amazing to. Well done to whoever Gary who makes them -- for. It's though well done here is well done whoever they Harrison is back and so bumper this Rodney has always been my favorite player I've missed seeing him on the field. Now let's talk about what truly important Dallas I know Tom picked them to beat the path today the NFL's schedule is released his wondering if he still feels that way. And if so what are the reasons he thinks the cowboys can handle the patriots finally my god why is everyone picking -- from South Carolina. I mean I've never noticed any football really from his calls. That's usually true probity E mail caller beat the guy alone. He's a great regular events but. They're blown up. I've never pick the cowboys to beat the patriots -- I don't think they're going to beat the patriots is that role in the preview I think the cowboys are a good team. I think they're playing a great team. And -- going to need to have a perfect game in order spring the upset -- home that that's what to look at that I think that the -- have to play perfectly I think go to they can challenge him in some areas. But in the end there an NFC team so right now that the best team in the NFC big deal and -- that they -- be that by the end of the year. Once they lose a game or two when wade bill -- a cheerleader on the sidelines we'll see how much he'll like be in and Alison ala. How great great of a coach wade Phillips does."

Play from 19:42[19:42]" I'm I'm not sure how good Dallas is but I I actually think that they are the best team in the NFC and I I think I had in my dispute by default but yeah you know Seattle I think has more. Not sold on Tampa Bay yet despite their -- statistics don't match up with the record. In Chicago is in disarray. You know Detroit. You know three and one but there they get 56 points. To what I think is a bad football team in Philadelphia and Dallas is the best in the NC -- even mention the Packers. That's our relevant I think there. Let's everyone of those that's going to one of those all either going to end up going to while before I went -- well -- Packers games. Which also I'm wondering how that team's going to react once they hit some adversity. You don't immediately under I don't know what your point is about wade Phillips and I would agree with that. Everybody loves it when when everything's going well yeah it's what happens when you faced some adversity and see how it how they respond."

Play from 20:40[20:40]" Right well -- or give me and we haven't had him in awhile like her in. He says an alternate to buying you lunch Indy Randy -- I guys sorry -- by you'll law and since I am on the -- butter and jelly. In Ramon noodles budget. I figure if I'm going to buy that Iraq and noodles I'm into I don't I don't eat those needles they Saturday in the know is college kids college was 40 when it went to college so I was at least I like -- pretty -- and -- some water on them and they turned totally. Who beat noodle but all and Wichita to be total thanks not really suppan it's not really I see I've seen them -- okay I've never had them. A bigger I'm going to buy take out. It is going to be for me I do you have an alternate of the -- I'd like to send me a Polaroid of yourselves I can trace it if you out of thousands hollered out that way. See if you guys are picking email -- the day. Awful price -- get that type that for the entire season on how much money out -- saving you -- to my question. I know that most think bosses here for this year than gone at the patriots when the superbowl but why. But you think Brady would want to keep the dominant receivers like moss around for as long as possible yeah I notice that that moss -- attitude may change after winning. But if he's comfortable whose role here in the chance of winning another Super Bowl would be excellent here they he would continue his new. Bound team player attitude that has led to all the success thought."

Play from 22:14[22:14]" Corey Dillon. My concern what that would wouldn't necessarily be with moss himself it would be with the money. That you it would cost to get him and then how that an intern affects the players in -- you know I think that he has been. Well beyond even the wildest expectations I mean he has been so good that I don't imitate anybody who thought it was the greatest movie ever made thought it was going to turn out like this. But I wondering -- just a perfectly. Corey -- you gave a guy that was supposedly hungry and had a reputation. And you gave him more money after it came and it worked out great he won the Super Bowl and then. You know production kind of dropped the incentive and kind of trust we talked about when he came here."

Play from 23:01[23:01]" That we didn't necessarily by that he was still physically disabled -- and I still think I don't think he has been he's not. And that looks worse every year every year he loses another half step. And if he's less driven less motivated I don't know what he's doing in the -- what Omar baby doesn't fly in in -- like he did last year does make -- they look good. I just don't take the risk and you think that maybe I think he's been better than Dylan on all all god physically and as a teammate because I think Dylan was sort of abrasive at times even that perfect 1600 yards here. I haven't seen anything from -- that's been other than absolutely perfect night but he still wouldn't what I would worry about is and look if they if they go to sign him I'm not going to sit there and Jones it is bad move this is gonna ball up on -- minute I -- blows up. The -- has been cancer I mean you can't argue with Brett. But my concern would be. Woody and he's talking about with these leg problems that he's had in the past you know maybe he has -- though at all and it and -- you know what -- if he has the money. Maybe cousin missing one of these first four games and maybe would've been ready for the opener for example. If you know he had -- security of you know that that contradict at the incentive to get out -- everybody there around -- showing everybody now Tehran to. To doubt him and that he could be a team player. Made it without that incentive. -- you get back to little bit closer that guy that was in. Minnesota in Oakland plus I think it'll be easy because somebody offered money so it's like -- I don't know like from a lot of doesn't look like you don't want him just like somebody else on the pay him more. And we you know we just fall back on our values. Okay we got John in palm bay."

Play from 24:36[24:36]" jumped into the yanks don't right it's the Golan. -- hey -- a quick question about four hours just look at the schedule -- I would suspect online that depicting pick a winner DR -- point one lows against the jaguars -- the -- it's certainly go to charity one couple."

Play from 24:57[24:57]" An actress it's a tough division game for them that definitely it lost over the past yeah I lost last year they lost they -- a close game at home and they got blown out at Jacksonville that the ethnic. You know division the -- Fred talks about it all time with the patriots attended division opponents coming you have the the matchup and in you know the personal so well that's you know and you can't put any division games really into when columns you know as the doctor what the patriots in. Playing in the worst division in football and their six game. But I certainly wouldn't be stunned at Indianapolis lose to Jacksonville. And I you guys would be the that they lost the Tennessee any -- even played them pummel the couple times precedents to find out"

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Play from 26:24[26:24]" America still just he has run amok with -- but now because as I. Gary says there's ten years subscriber I don't have this I don't have this radio showing up -- newspaper my friend John keep in mind that Gary doesn't work PFW we really don't know what he does he theater helps us with the show because he's. -- us because he's cute little opens and you know that does John idol look out checked into that dynasty posters here that are anyway in around I don't think there are but if we do have one idle talk about it on a future shell and hopefully Gary -- of sports -- just you up just from listening I'll -- yourself from palm -- when he -- about the thank you like -- good -- balls are funny and well because it. Simon is not happy. He's what against him ten minutes can't please everybody it said -- guys -- love listening to your show I have two little complaints firstly. Hold it down just a little bit about the free lunches and free -- no I know what's meant to be fun lunchtime show -- it's starting to completely take over the whole -- now you're outing for other regions as well you know -- the iPod guy. -- teams guy -- guy -- around the corner. Six holes make tired my guess we have a -- months that was Tom's best line in the history of this shelf. If you get 83 blonde simply simply think the generous listener on -- at the beginning of the show them let the show move on to what wage should point. Hello this guy that you -- his email. Secondly although I love all you guys if the patriots team that makes me that is the website and download your show -- there was slack -- got the we're talking about it grabs an interview will be elicited normally I could. Rest assured that I would get information and insight about the patriots team -- you guys that I just couldn't find any results but lately when you're not slobbering over your free food and you're just -- arguing amongst ourselves about something not related to the path to the NFL. Please please can we get back to little more information for example elected all anyone is helping -- what is happening in the battle between -- at -- Callahan -- is not."