PFW in Progress - 10/16/2007

Tue, 16 Oct 2007

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as we recap the Patriots 48-27 win over Big D and look ahead to Sunday's divisional matchup against the Miami Dolphins at Dolphin Stadium. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, Tom and newcomer Erik Scalavino as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Listen LIVE Tuesday - Friday at noon (ET) and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 8:30[8:30] ..." Brady getting Manny must perfectly touchdowns. And -- they -- there Wes Welker and and and Watson and all the other weapons they have. So I don't really think it matters if it's Maroney running"...

Play from 13:27[13:27] ..." to when he got to the 32 coaches there are very fuel Bill Belichick out there. That actually. But you know go with the flow and change based on personnel in. And and an opponent and"...

Play from 17:53[17:53] ..." actually chip it on this team he's worth it right if Wes Welker was not on the patriots they'd be six or no but maybe averaging 38 point three points a game. I don't know. -- already out Hollywood and Troy brown would have within five catches plus or minus oh what west while I -- Troy brown doesn't have what Wes Welker has right now I disagree with. Well there's not -- c'mon Greg I really don't care to be honest with all three"...

Play from 20:40[20:40] ..." the equation. -- why collected at the stalwart like a -- to Wes Welker at the I don't know you know but they had those guys first. And that's of the -- why -- after --"...

Play from 21:11[21:11] ..." It's a team game I thought it was all just Wes Welker according to."...

Play from 32:29[32:29] ..." told you play and I heard him ask some questions too like Bill Belichick tempo like god I'm ready. But there was some weird --"...

Play from 49:18[49:18] ..." Paul. And you know you've been out reviewing books that the New England Patriots have you heard about the blue print -- New England Patriots beat the system."...

Play from 1:04:53[1:04:53] ..." He also says once again in regards to Wes Welker is that nice little player argument running out of steam yes it is did you guys see you you can call that"...

Play from 1:22:11[1:22:11] ..." derogatory player assessment of incredible personal effort. Smacks of racism. Racism Wes Welker I think we should talk his comments -- looking at Randy moss would know what he's a smart player. I'm making those -- those sports and 52 times you see those -- a couple of -- yeah. Now who's going to skip past that by that by the way today black Mark in the year area Wes Welker. I'll another black Mark might be effected you get the cornering him when he gets the corner you don't want to go"...

Play from 1:28:59[1:28:59] ..." I guess technically it was a sport has twice -- head coaches New York Jets are lucky he's one of our favorite listeners lucky he."...

Play from 0:07[0:07]" That this is PFW in progress just wondering how do you. Excellent equipment that. If you -- him right now -- W progress these guys you know some of the month and I -- so. Bridge period and I'm curious how does one -- so that's though. It does say -- focus on the moment not made it. You know -- we have -- with the -- I don't. -- pinnacle. I didn't hadn't Seattle I'll woods. On yeah it is so good a big big cool. The park so yeah. So you good luck you can oh must -- think you're ready. Good share. If you teach me how to -- court. I want you look at the I -- those aren't your -- experts. I dabbled in college. Steve you ever run works to smoke if one gets unusually large and I thought -- happy with the need ethical and that. Much it would be more than Clark's part of the patriots football network -- we thought the total cost of the same --"

Play from 1:41[1:41]" All right welcome to see if that -- progress of the week Gary. -- soaking absolutely and where they in the glory or I'm glad it is auditor of were just revel in this big patriots win and -- never never are happy to be wrong but was and Russian news yeah. That a -- So -- Big big week here for the patriot X and -- We're all excited. And here for another two hours of PFW progress until 2 O'Clock in the bowels -- stadium. Email address -- web radio pitches dot com Bono was five -- were 3748 to read Paul Tom years it comin' down. I don't know. And Gary is back in the Booth Rory and he was summarily fired after last week. So what guys what do you think this team as good as we think there are it's just again the opponent not as good as they should be."

Play from 2:51[2:51]" I'm reforma basking in any event for yourself on the patriots as good as we think there of course. Yeah I think this is my thing knives that this all along. I don't think that at the end of the year the cowboys have to be nearly as good as they are now I think the wheels come off I think -- started after that game. Your Patrick Corey talk about the super all patriots. Aren't that good blah blah blah you don't they are through the angles of the NFC's apology individual hospital elected team. But right now they're still pretty good so that's a good victory for the patriots but I do think the cowboys had in the wrong direction because they have no coaching handle leadership I have to agree in the it just that thing all the wrong things and you know because they have. I think a good signing for them you know this is obviously don't have a cold that's the main problem -- have you asked me emperor Jerry Jones. Like a guy like Willie McGinest even though he can't play anymore. Bring him down to Dallas let him teach the young -- let you walk around that locker room like he used to do here -- held my father as it would be a young guy here talkin'. You always you veteran kind of start walk him up and give them Michael will you know what I mean like okay that's the bottom off. You don't have those kinds of things in Al's dad either the budget individuals that. Romo in that class to islam at the end of the game and a bad cordless two wheels were on the space you know why he just lost the big game. Shall we at least -- Carol. I agree and -- start with a coach if you don't out you have to set the tone that you have to bring in guys that will help you. And force that tone. And then everything that place they've done none of that that guy's a bigger idiot that even I thought I mean to kick a field goal when you're down 14 with ten minutes to go. No it I mean this is -- attend a three game you haven't stopped the patriots all freaking day. And he thought he was going to kick a field goal hit the ball back at touchdown it two point conversion and another -- goal to tie the game win right. Awful but the patriots looked very good that the game basically what like we all thought -- all the cowboys gave Iran. They wore the defense was worn down the other guys that would make patriots got the ball that -- left field -- use all the cowboys -- their hands on the -- they just warm out offensively you know life I thought the cowboys gave a good run for awhile but in the end it was just too much patriots off."

Play from 5:10[5:10]" What I liked was the fact that for the first time this year we actually saw the other team fight back a little bit. And you know challenge the patriots and it didn't really matter. That I mean -- US route the top know what you're asking kinda rhetorically but in all -- the patriots as good as we thought. Yeah I mean. On the road it's what you want -- predicting dallas' okay. It's a very significant home field advantage because it's something that's big point football country yeah those people sort of -- in date. We've seen the patriots fans travel very well all over the all over the league all over the country and when they have wins like that they've taken over stadiums. Into any taken all of that stadium outside that. That was a -- crowd that was battering -- 8 -- lot of patriot fans but -- here knows that the cowboys fans drowned them out. And it was a you know just -- very very impressive. Methodical dismantling of a pretty good team now I agree atomic think the defense was overmatched dallas' defense and sank. But my god how many big plays in one off and make in a year and it pennant in six games."

Play from 6:22[6:22]" It does anything bad to be taken out of the games anymore this curtain. Doesn't look like it looks looks like he's admitted it looks are definitely an injury -- Ben Watson turned his ankle I don't know the severity of that but."

Play from 6:36[6:36]" If -- the -- injuries kind of significant because they were only comes back and he gets nicked up again. Valued down at Kevin fault that allows teams to play a three man brought in just basically play eight coverage now that patriots have a -- a weapons but. That might actually be a blessing in disguise for something like the colts they don't blitz the colts so if you only have. Kevin -- that -- going to say in the ball to Kevin ball we don't care will try to hold you to feel old plate coverage. So I do think the more wrestling as a little significant if Maroney can't come in and play on."

Play from 7:08[7:08]" October Roney is going to be ready I'm sure he's going to be ready but would it -- they -- right. So this is only time I mean this is why they trapped in your life as it is time that he can't step up now and take over that running game and I I got a part siding with you guys as far as being concerned with him right now I'm I'm saying he's going to do that but. You know and he really does me."

Play from 7:34[7:34]" It is to an and I don't want to sound disrespectful anyway I really don't think it matters I don't think it matters who's who's running the ball I don't think because I look at the patriots. And and I agree with Tom assessment that. You know teams can now what I'm only talking about one -- now and you don't and you and your right you -- teams can completely ignore but I don't think it really opposing defensive giving very much. Thought in here in their. Our game plan preparations to stopping the patriots running game because I just don't think it matters I think it you know. I thought Dallas ran the ball pretty well on Sunday when they did and I think the patriots said yeah so. Who cares. When not trying to stop me from running the ball you want to run a go ahead do it. Now what we gotta try to do other things and they were able to do enough other things. You know that Dallas could match -- school for score I think teams look at and say if you want to hand the ball anymore 22 -- for a 105 yards. Go right ahead you know that's better than Tom Brady getting Manny must perfectly touchdowns. And -- they -- there Wes Welker and and and Watson and all the other weapons they have. So I don't really think it matters if it's Maroney running the ball or that's you know Morris Kevin walk away Heath Evans -- you know leaving Kyle echo now the touchdown machine both."

Play from 8:49[8:49]" It's interest and will get through emails about it I got and I hate talking about one team all right now when I I just wanted to what apologists and how. You know teams that don't have to worry about the run. This is the cowboys this is an email it's as Sally was right -- cowboys falling apart this is from what was. Anyway he says a guy named. In all polish reality did an article on how Phillips -- got -- win and to see that as I don't understand it to be really. He says the scary thing about money with Dallas Cowboys coach wade Phillips the -- I do the same way attitude. Billups acknowledged at his Monday news conference that the cowboys' approach would stop anymore -- Tom Brady beat them."

Play from 9:37[9:37]" I don't remember him he didn't say that it is. Top of the game so piece -- and he's a bigger idiot that I thought yeah I've I've -- and I'm not deny that he said I'm just denying the fact it would certainly right count or what what he told Tom after the game. It like mortgages in the front seven did nothing to stop their lives it just knowing that they're a little bit better at stopping the run and the other. You know I I thought they had a bunch of guys in coverage check out what their plan was and I don't think it was a bad one given their their personnel their plan was to have. Get as much pressure from the outside as they could come after Brady is often as they could and at the same time you know get physical with moss double you know double him when you can and hope the other guys don't -- Dating get -- dating get -- enough they got there enough in the first half to cause arm trouble but not enough. Stayed in it they didn't get there in the second half and taking moss and I don't want to -- to commodity game by limiting Maas is damage was enough because Welker."

Play from 10:35[10:35]" All worked around this world. And the probable the cowboys I think is. People that are remember when -- explodes. He already has a faction of people on his side like in that locker room like even in Philadelphia not everybody without McNabb side remember something -- Hugh Douglas a couple of the a couple of -- guys. When TO has his explosion and its common trust me you could just see it it's it's -- he's going to have the guys some guys on his side it's a split apart the locker room and then he got wade Phillips it there you know looking around like the country -- committee is that. I just I don't. It was a bad decision to kick the field goal I don't think his bad coaching really affected the outcome of the game -- pretty much what with the same regardless but I am saying now. After a lost things are all rosy in Dallas Alexi howl we'll see how they idea how they do Italy -- Minnesota yet and that's that's the by the team you'd actually don't want to play. Because the routine you can look past the -- team that can run the football they had you know we all of Dallas starts off slowly needles or in the first quarter all the sudden you're at one of those spots now two games. But by the one that you said about wade Phillips to win when he does the you know it's not my father of the last night -- but he bottom of the point he told -- said you know I don't -- as Belichick has an -- when I'm sure that he does he have but the what the reason why he thought he was such a great coaches because. He doesn't really coach -- eagle he he changes you -- I'd be like. He was talking about Kansas City in the playoff game against the colts were they just the colts at 45 -- up with the -- that's and the ball that's a great going without Andy said you don't telecheck. He'll take things from Paul Brown and Don core reality and use that he's not so -- physical worry says this is my thing and we have to do and I think that the big big news that. Wade Phillips did say that after the game too he said. Well I thought our scheme was fine and speaking of 400 yards passing and five touchdowns you know right is he's that we would have done the exact same thing. It did work."

Play from 12:32[12:32]" one -- but what you know what that well on the -- players I had the right player and yet cute that's what I hate about those guys it is like the -- you can do that. Like you can be of football let's face it -- these guys that they're coach nowadays. Have actually -- does the does the schemes that they -- okay I mean some dom capers the little -- I was going to say -- to a lesser extent than others but we all agree that wade Phillips didn't designed to 34 outside linebacker pressure steam pipe it right so we duel we deal so what do you what do we need you for. It right what are whiny new boy brad Childress last year we -- the temperature we stop that we stop the -- their big guys why. The head coach. Like what change what would possibly change during the course of the game regularly make fun of me about baseball right anybody could manage it that's correct but why couldn't I mean couldn't anybody don't mean to when he got to the 32 coaches there are very fuel Bill Belichick out there. That actually. But you know go with the flow and change based on personnel in. And and an opponent and and everything they do everything well I think the way that you put that on the way the father put that perfect. He doesn't coach with a needle because it doesn't have to be his way right it can be any way that they think is best all they -- I'm sure he can't wait to get on the show because he's already call Greg."

Play from 13:57[13:57]" South Carolina and the -- you do when. Until dawn would -- great -- a good six that no on top NFL yeah."

Play from 14:06[14:06]" Add another big win. Well eight well my own one year ago two point point win and that cowboys penalties were going to kill a member of -- brought that up last week."

Play from 14:18[14:18]" I also remember you said that Dallas would move the ball so. Man."

Play from 14:24[14:24]" Well they got Atlanta -- eat at albums under 300 yards yours but the important thing -- football. So I think we did a pretty good."

Play from 14:32[14:32]" Point seven points. Yeah it all went well at all in all fairness if -- doesn't commit 12 penalties -- probably scored 47 points. I wasn't relaying the patriots -- it to stop Dallas it was more kind of what Dallas did not -- to agree with that combination of the which who have really absolutely after the first two after the easily game. Yeah patriots came out guns ablaze in -- two possessions threes three and outs man on. You know Dallas did -- whatever wanted to an offense and the patriots shifted more it more than whatever they want an offense. That was the difference in the game was the patriots off not the patriots the as it should as it will be probably every game. Every game that offense is unbelievably scary"

Play from 15:15[15:15]" one question you guys think that walker is still a nice little player. -- I."

Play from 15:20[15:20]" Will -- that was an absolutely phenomenal game I'm not going to be stoppard. That's the best game he's ever had in his career -- I fared best game he's ever had in his career if he does that more often now then I'll be the first title made it. We all of the because that's a moral going to be in the hall of note because I don't threat but not get carried away you know hundred it's luck I think I think he's a great player that he was -- afraid that -- paid all I'm saying is -- great players have more than 1 career I -- with the HIA's 50 I don't know. Well with the -- with an idiot he you know a lot of -- great Amanda what do you -- I'm going to continue to be."

Play from 15:58[15:58]" Stubborn because. The last out of the locker room all night here as we have to stop Ravi moss we have to stop reading this oh that's proven our point for us we said Welker. Would benefit from although people try to stop moss in the first couple games when -- was moss nobody can I let but that's the point that wide -- you just expanding this -- Yeah exactly it was it it was it."

Play from 16:21[16:21]" Just out of curiosity. It I'm not going to be stubborn -- had a great game not a good game not a good little team he had a great game. He makes catches constantly made extra yards after the catch. Constantly made guys miss breaking tackles phenomenal game if he did that more often I'm not seen 11 catches I -- what's beane has agreed game. But I'm saying I saw performances similar to that. More more often than not I would say I'm wrong he's more than a good little while there unless they let -- give up that. I don't think he could do that another when I'm saying is that if you're a great player you're great a player no matter what -- you know I as I did I just a great player but -- the best -- for this and he's great per site agrees he's a good -- and he says I can't remember the last time it looked -- me. But two players in the receiving top how many catchers -- brown would have went well -- well. Troy brown but here -- a lot of great play and I don't it's right -- and nobody is not a great place the first place at two. Receivers in that column. Why is also the first I would enemy is right Israelis had -- is this the first time he's been great combination of everything. Brady getting these receivers. Brady's but it Randy moss and that's -- and try to get all you know. And I don't want it and all the rest of them at the beginning of the season that you can't deny it. Youth -- that they pay too much this I don't know where it on this I still think it for -- actually chip it on this team he's worth it right if Wes Welker was not on the patriots they'd be six or no but maybe averaging 38 point three points a game. I don't know. -- already out Hollywood and Troy brown would have within five catches plus or minus oh what west while I -- Troy brown doesn't have what Wes Welker has right now I disagree with. Well there's not -- c'mon Greg I really don't care to be honest with all three critic that way why why why why maybe like well what -- come on our show. Patting himself on the back to -- his own one. Completely ignoring all the things that he said it would happen it didn't you can argue with them but those heels are -- opinion is he's only he's only just didn't rate is not easily I'm not -- at -- I -- it. It has proven abroad the Red Sox lost last I admitted -- I admitted that. That was more than a good little game he had a great game having more than a good little that was the first that was the first game that he had last night that that I would say anything about that I was wrong X games. Right you really don't think it Troy brown out of the slot would have now plus or minus five catches -- well. -- I just kept that lead they thought that US. I -- that money outlets or they wouldn't know that Troy brown was going to be healthy that's the only the only thing about LeBron you -- say is maybe he would be it would player X I I don't. All that it is."

Play from 19:19[19:19]" I don't know -- don't get me wrong I love eyebrow you know I mean he's seen mister baker as far as I'm concerned. In his prime he you know he at this elusive -- speed in the move. It just seven yeah are they're welcome picked up for a guy at this stage of his career used mobile doing. That's something."

Play from 19:40[19:40]" I didn't say anything about the game that Welker had Sunday I said about the he was he's in Troy brown would have very similar numbers so Wes -- well as if he was planned walker wasn't. It's an offensive machine -- Sammy Morris is anything more than a pedestrian running back. He's just piling up hundred -- point it's an offensive juggernaut. The guys that are in it and large part of feeding off of Brady and moss the rest of them are interchangeable parts."

Play from 20:08[20:08]" Well -- while I think got over a lot better than. Reche Caldwell of course millions of music which they call the number that's all -- probably pretty close well he had -- Friends that why -- I couldn't play that's my points you get the best players you can get. Well that. But the numbers would be the same it's just an offensive machine I'll -- you watching your country is how wide open everybody is. Do you think of the last three days are greatly really count on a spot all you had to do was -- Randy moss to the equation. -- why collected at the stalwart like a -- to Wes Welker at the I don't know you know but they had those guys first. And that's of the -- why -- after -- why Colette -- west they didn't have reading -- then. Is my point well for a moss made a -- better they had -- they might not have done all that other stuff because it would have mattered I have seen David given credit for. I."

Play from 21:11[21:11]" It's a team game I thought it was all just Wes Welker according to."

Play from 21:15[21:15]" You can't give the guy compliment on tell them how great guy played and I'm stupid rip is still say that he wasn't worth what they've they've. But why why can I don't have an opinion on you can and like I did you I think it's not all of disagree with you by. I think 18 million dollars is too much for a slot receiver that's all I'm not -- team what -- not your team does that mean he was the perfect fit with the team they knew that that's why they went after him. That's why they -- It's because all okay because he's perfect style of running back -- they liked that guy because he was a good candidate -- on this team -- just -- as a player. At the ball this team. What does that mean as they don't. They're not looking for the best that the read the looking for the right that the -- that before that I I I understand and again I would make the argument that Randy moss was the right 53. Right 53 he's -- All -- if I ask let me ask it Pratt let's welcome is a good player I. Good little player a good player I did say that the money I don't think that bottom I have to say it I think he's a good play well at that he -- a player for a lot less -- I think I'd I don't think that that player Akashi was second round pick in 18 dollars in guaranteed money the only the only the only I just it. That's the point and I disagree with you you don't get. -- that it because restrictive and you just wanna do the same thing much like they've just wanted anybody to run the ball out of the backfield. Why didn't spend a first round draft pick a lot it was the right guy and his team evidently Tom but the only thing is when he misses games it doesn't matter if the next guy just fit in and he's the right guy for the team and he gets ready Kevin -- runs the 50 yards in in a quarter. That's my point is that a good -- does it matter at that time that a player as the coach gets too much credit. I want to come to the I don't know you know this team you can plug in any. With Brady in March you're missing my okay but now at Brady and wants to plug in any -- yeah remember that that's going to come back the --"

Play from 23:32[23:32]" Not -- Brady get started -- combatant. Because Islamist Brady's out there you can never prove my poi