PFW in Progress - 10/24/2007

Wed, 24 Oct 2007

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as the staff discuss Richard Seymour practicing and when he may be activated from PUP. Plus, we preview Sunday's game against the Washington Redskins at Gillette Stadium. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, Tom and newcomer Erik Scalavino as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Listen LIVE Tuesday - Friday at noon (ET) and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 1:43[1:43]" Welcome up if W -- progress. Breakers -- Tom -- in the boat we're all here. It's Wednesday immediate -- that means of course pizza yes indeed and it means that. We're looking past the Redskins were getting ready for a big game of course the talk about the revolution coming up. I mean it's Wednesday when it is when is the revolution they have a game they got a game at a playoff game plutonium. This is the year ago when all I don't know it's for this -- the digital -- it again lost that I mean it's the Red Sox revolution but patriots' BC beyond that -- hope they do grow as there's been so close. And I and obviously there's a lot of people that work for both organizations. -- we happen not to be -- that but I'm rooting for even though I don't like soccer I don't want to think about the game I'm rooting for the reds. Where they play what is it here I don't know I think it is not the final minute -- well that's what game they're getting ready to play. I don't usually do those like to a lot of threes in the first games on the road have -- to read it the first best goals against to actually -- all yeah. -- joke Fred's best aggregate goals after two game it wasn't funny how we're talking about soccer. Anyway -- promised brought back you know so cranky when you just yet it's not we don't you don't need -- win. So -- mr. all the time that's what was your voice. I don't know. Anyway I didn't on radio patriots dot commentary definitely can't take credit radio pictures dot com by the way I downloaded yesterday's PFW progress my -- couldn't hear anything I had no problem in fact. I can only go like a third of the way because after that it was too. It's gonna be you know one of those problems that you're going to claim doesn't -- I don't know why I don't know if they asked me to download -- just to -- right. Now this was yesterday maybe maybe earlier yesterday -- earlier ones. I have no problem with them on anything it was two out got a lot talk about today let's start off with bill developed its press conference."

Play from 3:52[3:52]" Back in form today idea that it Wednesday form last week in made the comment that -- was right. It seemed like he had a hard time coming up with. Complimentary freezes about the Miami Dolphins he had he was right in having -- time and such trouble today with the Washington Redskins Fred. We're -- it right away we can win this game the reason Jason Campbell only has five touchdowns and hasn't thrown one yet to a wide receivers -- the probably has a hard time deciding which -- through -- which is that's what he set which is a reason that my son will come up with probably. Probably stuck in the tree. Is that a bad thing for quarterback did not decisive not according to bill this Campbell and a nice job that accurate despite not completing 60% of his passes my old he's really a six -- the legend Rodney Harrison said that is really run too -- Well maybe I didn't understand details on how to control them it's a very deeper now. -- was in Washington is a more talented team and a lot of these other ones that -- we've been talking about the last few weeks. They definitely have a good the fans but he was using superlatives for an offensive line. That is completely beat out an and talking about guys like Todd wade has quality. You know veterans Todd wade is -- never ban them you know let alone has been. -- talk about effective or to have had five games have basically came down to the last place that they could be better. Well or they could be one in five and it he was he was over the top today. I think it was a lesson for those players it still don't understand. What an opponent. With my press conference this morning -- and there was also when we get in the locker room all the players that well I should say the five players that weren't there -- were yelling at Andy Green. I'm their asses they were who we thought they were. My guess is for all the players we saying that it was in some part of a team meeting bill must use that for so with the crowd. The Redskins I don't I don't know I don't know the context but. The players still -- that the players -- what -- it was -- how -- walked -- Ellis -- was saying -- walked -- He was saying it Marcellus rivers was sitting -- his locker. He was saying Childress -- seem like it was too many people. You know all of a sudden -- attitude they weren't we thought they where you want to pound on you know. But just was probably don't they were talking about. Or why -- why. -- it was a good blocker and I was locker room -- a lot of stuff going case let's move on from anything else that bill now don't like as you said you know. I think built for his closer to his former normal. Overly complimentary styles in terms of the upcoming opponent and I think god is an obvious. Respect for Joe Gibbs that you know anybody would be -- And it's a battle this week of those two coaches doing it with a total of the quotes from Joe Gibbs yesterday -- biggest underdog in the history of football and -- struggle hard against them. So they don't back and forth. -- it's sort of being honest they'll make stuff up on the fly. In game one up as Michael Vick in the press conference in the locker room no -- in the in the in the los that's a fair I get -- does there has a good line I you know to the mind if I said that you probably would come back and be with that. But he kills the idea that something that was there for a threat hangs in Italy two point 5000 ultimate things India I would say that. Tom just completely lost interest even though now we talk about the patriots. He's flicking his water cap we're past couple obvious guys over a little bit whether under the weather well I know at that you've got a a flu -- it. The only -- like those that kind of I don't Markota -- habit of -- story here -- Ellis Thomas and we will have the audio at some point -- Lewis yet and we do have the what do you tell you know he's getting out ready so. -- that we have the -- the lead analyst ray Lewis has I guess his own radio show in Baltimore. Very critical first of his head coach in the decision Baltimore's decision to on second and 13 one -- the one throw the ball each time. He said that it was you know bad play call and we would welcome that it's at the fans in Baltimore someone try to do -- Against us went on to say earlier in the year we did the same thing in Cincinnati and Costas and very critical. Billick hasn't responded in agreement but maybe he's right yet which is part of the problem but no we won't get order albeit."

Play from 8:41[8:41]" Don't the fans think about it Dale's Thomas runs well first of all -- started does it wasn't ray Lewis where everything ray Lewis he won the one McKay I'll say anything about it -- Thomas. It was Thomas who started this. Talk about the patriots weigh in in the patriots way he ended up. Not -- identity way helped by saying things about Baltimore. But team they have to play. That's your thoughts on patriot if he had said that in March SI after they won the Super Bowl. It would it that would take patriots -- winner back and talk stop -- anywhere mid season. For an opponent that you have to face a month or so down the line Berrian does listeners who don't know what that let's go well."

Play from 9:23[9:23]" In a Sports Illustrated that had radio on the cover Tom is absolutely right this is -- started Thomas had a quote in that story after the Dallas game saying that in Baltimore it was a star studded system -- paraphrase of the vote for me that's the it was a star studded system with a lot of chest beaters including their end a lot of people that like the limelight. That sought the limelight including their head coach what was known that okay including their head coach. And went on to -- credits by the a lot of things for us to know cannot say I understand it's fine for you try to say I know a little -- for -- patriots place it. And and he went on to say that you know. It it was a situation in Baltimore that the head coach Foster right -- you know they sought the limelight the head coach included here in New England. It's just about going about your business and we win. Something like that I'm again I'm paraphrasing but that's the gist of what he said ray Lewis took exception to that said. That he it was not a blow by you have to ray Lewis comment --"

Play from 10:29[10:29]" You don't become a Super Bowl champion in this business without -- character and dignity. What you do for your -- okay we want -- to quibble with output that is come. The New England Patriots won three Super Bowl with out but that you -- you talk about what gotten we put him quit out. Great talent don't have a you won't with this dramatic that you had to fit him in two hours from now if that scrutiny 80 -- we appreciate that we do. You go and you do your own thing do we don't think you got your money you wouldn't seem determined team. What do you take that shot at -- that you claim to look to go to what I call those come out. That you got that -- probably you have to go to in the newspaper that you got that -- to a man speaking. -- when you read things where it's the thing that hurt -- if you watch the years abolished that we no matter who it is that's been in this business. Do you I can explain what. Cry when you at -- on them much crap if it's more I think it. The when you give up and down you've finally got like this one with the way he's the first guy you know been constantly with teammates which is raise one hand in hand. That matches that you look at for the -- You talk about go been wanted to -- Robles and an eighth pocket -- and let."

Play from 11:54[11:54]" He started off good it's not what he says makes it and I'll say so now police -- with facts are gonna have we're gonna have a -- is Thomas his response here and I want you to listen to something he says specifically about the system. Which I think he has totally backwards ray Lewis says we had to fit into our system. Not that we had a fit a system around -- Which is what if there was Thomas response."

Play from 12:17[12:17]" that. It some comments come. We'll come spock com personal. About the quote goes on me public -- called him cubs this -- it and what I did was. Came out that way and I could be totally but let's let's I was in a compliment the patriots. I'm never going to raise him about it CU to seven years known as much as it is that something that somebody they and -- the -- With a compliment Horry shot that the -- none of the players access chance they would. Hall of -- players. That was not in court and -- name name -- with one -- and they. Did we wanted to clear that was great players but don't -- as the Coca you know -- Howard you go home. You can call me and I'll always person myself I'm into human. -- what -- media frenzy as far as it goes on bigger and that a better and that. But this sports columnists are sort of I think -- goes to something personal I don't like it alleges that person myself. But you know two and take take my activity as far as that goes as they that you had -- came out for me. I think -- made of that. I was in about it note that you -- it used turnabout weekend it'll -- you keep talking to you. I mean I don't know if that's -- this leave you enough. But as far as that goes you know do you want to criticize it coach talk about how you can go right upstairs and -- my -- you talk about me. And so as far as it goes you know I'm just typical -- we're whether his -- means nothing. This horse is coming and anything else that is that is. Of them have a brother -- that in you know it wasn't going to sort that's you know political prisoners -- the apartment. You do what you think all of yeah that's and that you know in Connecticut and person myself and I talked during you know if there's a lot of things that would be fair right now we're not on the communities we try to go back and forth. With you know he says she's you know something missing in -- a -- a whole month off of nobody. Definitely curiosity -- right. Pasadena, Texas open it I'm not used to go back for. With he sees you through it or try to book so that somebody that indirectly because those in this quote. With -- In the paper -- on a local -- Or worse and that's that's not came out and -- you -- that you -- the point -- to listen to -- for the army. Before the no point when -- interview that I overtones it was so that. In about it Baltimore or unit of players helpers there. Economically Democrats can't trust -- On thing I try to say it was that is different is definitive and we're here posted to operate the Hall of Fame -- both salvageable and I many players from both sides. And most of -- it did posted this superstar that would there with everything household names from going to punish them you know suns don't it would be counseled me. That's what -- see it in that got cut out. I thought I was so."

Play from 15:43[15:43]" Are -- good job on Gary and get gathering that audio forest. Yeah man I think -- you know every guy we rip on the show many Anthony Anthony has -- mentally -- also at least -- that good gigantic."

Play from 15:58[15:58]" I figured I because I'm just broke pat himself on about anyway it would. I think that I don't know. What it -- Thomas -- read the article aside I don't know what else that the New Hampshire. And it was it's it at -- and you know like. I think you're right there because he didn't think he would say well he said something like I may be wrong about that yeah. I think he'd be if -- save himself -- fall back practiced all back if he'd say he would have and I never -- that you have to say what -- said about. His ex teammates to say what you want to say about -- it you know so he screwed up there. Then I think what ray Lewis that was right to begin with pathetic he went too far. And then I think it was resting it. I think with the wrong I think especially like part of a statement is I'm not going to get back and forth to meet all myself well you're you're doing that right now like -- that went on like five minutes longer must have had very little feet shot in which is a -- but evil guy in front of -- I call I said that whole thing and I totally agree with the criticism of ray Lewis about the system is totally accurate my mind he cried about that 34 thing because you. I didn't. Lost his protecting what they're both doing what they say they don't two pots talk through the media but it did a lot of editorialists promise claim that that. Lewis said that they had to -- this whole system for him now that's not what he said that they had to put him into the system right. Just like in other words just like anybody else -- to meet. Thomas blow little bit of the ravens will the patriots in still -- that yeah the -- so I I think the two brothers who love each other half the oh. I don't care about it. Earl ray Lewis is he pretending he still loves that -- Dallas Thomas might still be -- I also like Thomas saying I don't really care I don't care at all about ray Lewis I like a brother right but I don't know what those two things can't really be I don't look at Portland. Even pretend that you now hear about and it's misplaced of the game and -- aren't as yet now we do this this week but fortunately I have Redskins in week out of the balls uh oh I mean well it's gonna turn out like -- it will lead and he. Now -- Thomas will speak that we can all set because Baltimore's bank on him right on."

Play from 18:11[18:11]" I I -- going to have a connection it in the air because we have jobs from palm -- on the phone John I you don't. Yours let's start to make you wait but we want it to get that he's -- out there."

Play from 18:24[18:24]" Have a court -- the patriots and -- this week. What's that can number I -- in fact check what's that little boy. I don't look pretty evenly matched or anything -- say about the excuses there offense what little bit better at Indianapolis right now there. Decent books put much -- but we definitely need Seymour and now."

Play from 18:49[18:49]" you know I was thinking about that today John will see -- start practicing this week I guess is yes. Sounds like today we should wait an update Comerica on the way in from practice but via my -- testament bills sort of quietly so answered it does I -- them out of this game and I get him in and play against the colts. All depends on how healthy years in a match sounds like an enemy but if he's healthy enough to play this week I plan this week they states for the culture our pom pay. I I think it's it's a good point you know I think -- war against the colts is definitely something I don't know that you want you for scheme bet to be against the colts. I just don't well I say -- enough I would I -- all he's healthy I play in this week get him some reps in. So next week usually pressure -- get him used to recovering on the Monday from getting banged around a little -- hurry up offense you know is he that's why -- true they'll turn the heat up a lot and there's a that's why things more to --"

Play from 19:47[19:47]" Guys because -- complain you know if a lot of teams get dictated by the personal it's on the feel awful Seymour is not one of those players as he can play all three downs and he can play effectively against the run with a pass. And I don't think. All other players alike that I think -- he's somewhat unique in that -- guide if if Indianapolis wants to say okay you're gonna you gonna take. -- you know take -- right in Vince Wilfork off the field and you got to port and Jarvis green's and you know on an extra linebacker okay we'll run the ball. Well you're not doing that with Richard Seymour because he's not coming off the field so he can play either one that's why I think he's a valuable guy you know -- I don't look you know everybody knows I like patriots body type of guy to it went in in 30 million dollars well but I think that his stats you know what his numbers haven't. You know I don't think his production was his eyelashes has been in. People wondering you know this seven you know without him how much do we really need this I've -- a lot of complain about stuff in the -- recent weeks and -- on a Richard -- can help out in that area rather than having Jarvis Green on the field you know -- not an eye injury and I think Jarvis Green is an excellent backup planner you know at the original player I was going to -- at the risk of offending anybody I think he's he is woody is he's. He's a solid backup player I think that. The more he plays the more you're gonna notice the fact that he was well."

Play from 21:07[21:07]" I don't think the wolf Seymour -- team against the colts who walk him inside -- put Thomas outside. And sub packages yeah idea idea will it inside he can play in the -- in the middle there Anthony that brings them package. What did you think you know John that that the pickets offenses probably play better in the colts offense has paid -- little bit better than any ice industry. I'm not sure that both defenses are playing about the same."

Play from 21:35[21:35]" I -- pretty well who do you think's playing better the colts might be playing better right now. I don't I don't know I think the colts are improved from last year like the young guys that they brought in through as -- the other TV show that. At least they have some talent those other shoe makers that Paul calls abilities to have they were just guys. What these guys seem to have a little little upside and the talent -- Colin Jackson. -- they're both physical guys they seem to be athletic he -- it at linebackers better than -- to in my opinion -- well and there was a lot -- but I don't know I'm -- as a -- better -- the -- I don't know -- that's the case -- this deep -- a tremendous -- haven't played -- Opponents are the colts but the colts before it used to be up 427 -- kinda get lackadaisical sloppy. I think it's part of that is being goal blocker with 427 I don't care if you're bill ballot checker Vince Lombardi. Whatever you tell those guys it all the games all right they party I think what they're going to do post game in you know who they're hanging out with post game there."

Play from 22:39[22:39]" They're human rights you know. -- right well. You know before we get to the colts which -- it's hard to not overlook this game book we've got this game against the Redskins coming up. In courts you know bill -- had a lot to say about. The Redskins -- a favorable way but you have to say that of all the teams that the -- played so far the Redskins probably had the most talent. The I don't think they have the best defensive scheme well they might have a best defense team tactic they have the best it's the best defense they played. They had a talent erotic travel back there they can make play makers I would all three level I."

Play from 23:15[23:15]" Let's be surprised to see the patriots come out and put together. You know I'm not stand to see the score in the first drive the way they have but. To put one of those you know the patriots have the ball four times it's you know two point one nothing I'd be surprised to see that I think that. At the end of the game you're gonna see the patriots right around where they've been because I think. Think that that redskins' defense going to spend an awful lot of time on the field Sunday and I think as the second half comes on I think it'll still be worn down a little bit. But I don't be surprised to see the patriots just come out in into exactly what they've done did seemingly everybody else to Washington I think washed."

Play from 23:50[23:50]" A little better yet nothing like I want to see the most is that secondary. You know we used to watch those Buffalo Bill teams play they play the giants and -- he would hit them he would hit those receivers good deed that does that play those rams teams Tony Dungy would sit back you don't go to catch the ball like he needs you pay. Arm and great Williams Indians a disciple of buddy Ryan who did the same thing -- let you catch the ball but those safeties and corners were -- So I'll want to see Wes Welker I don't think he's been touched all year and he's not going to have that -- at you know five yards downfield mangled when he right -- was -- I don't see what happens when Taylor Landry those guys that they currently the lumber and start -- in some of his rhythm to -- that's. The Redskins won't win this game tickets or -- points were to meet at that they I think golden look for and it's the it's the complementary parts Randy moss can do what he did against pretty much anybody. He can try to make those plays and I think he's going to have as much success against Sean Taylor as was named it toddler or -- Cameron -- whoever it was but well. Cardinals -- third base or pitcher pitcher. You know those guys Randy moss is going to make plays against good talent across the ball Shawn springs whoever it is. But Wes Welker and Donte' Stallworth and they do the same things against a good balance the fence where you know rocky Macintosh is running around -- front Welker in the Sean Taylor's come in depth in those guys make the same sort of game because that's been why -- so good not just because moss -- good. Because everybody else has been better in their complementary roles we thought it would."

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