PFW in Progress - 11/8/2007

Thu, 8 Nov 2007

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as we take a look at all the NFL week 10 games and offer our picks. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, Tom and newcomer Erik Scalavino as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Listen LIVE Tuesday - Friday at noon (ET) and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 7:11[7:11] ..." run production company. So you can you can green like my idea Bill Belichick and TV. Working on feeling that I did or about it for you I ever see that on TV I'm gonna hunt"...

Play from 7:28[7:28] ..." we got for I'm calling because somebody got to defend the lord Laurence Maroney a little -- I know you guys are actually killing him I appreciate that you're sort of make it tempered argument. But"...

Play from 23:35[23:35] ..." thing last 9 Fred and I am right about this before about Wes Welker. They showed up in last night at bank on that inside the NFL ball Green Bay. And lambeau field and the fans"...

Play from 1:01:00[1:01:00] ..." just are on the regular radius the record of that talk about Wes Welker saying. You know that you looked up at least 40 something yards downfield and I'm thinking well maybe he's -- the last"...

Play from 1:33:28[1:33:28] ..." game and then he does exactly had the -- but -- Bill Belichick. Just to have the players in the patriots went 52 I was. But I with a clean -- for a 196 yards"...

Play from 1:49:14[1:49:14] ..." I like with the lions are doing eloquent Rod Marinelli is dunes you know instill some confidence in this team finally John -- playing well. My hopes for Arizona are going to"...

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Play from 1:49[1:49]" here. Gillette stadium wanna buy -- week Thursday and a very lively group for you today with Indy atop the salad -- Murillo. Outside I've seen it. I haven't seen very many. Bunches this lifeless. In my day but this is oh lifeless crew that we have for PF WA progress what is well enough boat we got no food so we have no life problems clear. That is true on energy and fuel that going to have to work on that perished -- starts as he's known -- and some parts of of knowingly knowingly cable news now that's for the first he will be down. However for our number two when nick Aaron felt -- he'd best be bringing some food. But he -- you know but yesterday based on his performance yesterday that -- doesn't bring food I don't know what could happen just to recap the other 20 minutes so that Fred was so involved in his hunger forced induced stupor he claimed that the Super Bowl would not -- is going to ratings as the AFC championship game because everybody knows the outcome he also claimed that -- briefly. That the NFL didn't catch the patriots in -- me and and and change his mind about 35 seconds later. It's not a good good Portis short period for a for Fred. As Tom on right we did he talked him talks sense -- with the Super Bowl and I click on it Nen. Tom picked him up little bit later after the show what governments have been always right with the world. And today getting there at this morning we've really it was three -- Tom once again for 40 minutes where -- his hair cut that he found a new guy who uses the street -- your anger at the strategy is the straight -- you -- you don't go to. Today it anyway I've been done this to use the straight edge. -- there racers treated -- the old fashioned kind of -- open. Oh yeah skeptics -- they give you deal opens up straighter which is it -- any significant difference to you to do without it and with the regular -- clippers. -- that because -- parity of cleaner definitely does it matter to you as a man as a matter to you in good shape right. Who friend I've heard people say that those straight edge hot -- are really. Yet the greatest thing since sliced bread and I need to get one though. And one of those before and I it is although I was very uncomfortable time not trust but it is an extremely coaches but. To me. Not an out of body experience much like the hot towels on the plane. Those like not totally alike by those in you know they don't change my life 3 -- is -- little boost as were common in her landing anyway. That just some of the idiosyncrasies of one Fred parents. About a -- damage here it just like dig -- about priorities. I'm really -- tumbled about how -- who we've got some practice would you blood sugar right sorry just who -- was supposed to -- those -- work with -- ever going to. Whoever danger that does ideas we'll discuss -- it's a guy we had to have -- it was Scott Steve whatever was in the 50s it's just it's. Everybody knows that -- take my phone calls. I'm just to get -- some of the on news out of the way first sparrow was bit of action late late in the day yesterday -- patriots and have activated off of the Jackson boys Eddie Jackson Chad Jackson off of PP. I'm at the last possible day that they could do so they only needed to open one roster spot in Tom I'm very sorry to say disgraceful that to spot was. -- rooms it was a roster spot but it was never race control that's well that's a whisper in the system which owns its tantamount to a slap in the face well. I I don't know the word tantamount I was talks until wants oh okay exhibit and this is an attempt stepped into golf that's Kramer said it once that's all I -- the phrase. Well -- believe after his best performance I mean shutting down mccoll special teams they got. I imagine we have a practice squad later today yet that's it -- specialties. Acceptable -- touchdowns already this year but -- was -- and noble but off the top I just can't believe the popularity of the Schilling --"

Play from 6:14[6:14]" We did you ratio and just you know. Talk about christmas gifts and have nothing to really talk about no emails no one called no one cared. Oh certainly go nine you know and I decided it demoted he had the most popular show on earth then. Just say is going to lead us today only so we're gonna go right to the phone calls right to be mr. on the in my time."

Play from 6:37[6:37]" Next I was always like -- right in the audio or there was like a little glitch as you we're. Coming on that might have been meat kick my oh in it won't come out. -- who eat you know I want to -- Topeka that's good luck and should you be picketing somewhere. He's so -- steps are ever I averaged just that well I'm not pick. -- job job. I would have run production company. So you can you can green like my idea Bill Belichick and TV. Working on feeling that I did or about it for you I ever see that on TV I'm gonna hunt you down the."

Play from 7:24[7:24]" There there's no way I'd make that movie without you got in okay so we got for I'm calling because somebody got to defend the lord Laurence Maroney a little -- I know you guys are actually killing him I appreciate that you're sort of make it tempered argument. But out there -- a lot of patriots spent force so governor guy I think people looked great when he's at a chances. I think the fact but he gets behind the light while true it's so unbelievably overblown it's so exaggerated. It's so much less this year than it was last here."

Play from 7:59[7:59]" I will agree it's less this year than it was the end of last year I will agree with that. But I don't think it's exaggerated because I think it's holding him back in terms of making place."

Play from 8:07[8:07]" Well don't you I think that last week obviously the first step is great second half obviously really not great but. At least to like think of those two run if it -- Maybe more than were offset ridiculously predictable shotgun draw out of that it went two way too often and."

Play from 8:26[8:26]" Info long yards every time they do what I do I don't know I think that's double fault does. Yeah as usually productive with the play."

Play from 8:35[8:35]" Well public to arguments that first of all I. Don't agree because it's and then there were times in the second -- it was -- and got stopped also. But I ordered the point is that there are generally good but he said the thinking that they're going to pass because pocket then there and so."

Play from 8:52[8:52]" that I will grant you that knowing when Faulk as in the game they're not playing the run like they would be with -- in the game right I would say that Falk has been more. Productive with those draws that Maroney -- But I did I do think you're right that I think the defense is probably looking more pass and they're probably running that play more often against a nickel or dime defects than -- with Faulk -- they would would be with Maroney."

Play from 9:16[9:16]" You think there's anyway that part of the reason the -- split carries of Maroney at the beginning of the year. I'm not trying to like fate early often and it's not his fault he's doing badly when he that badly it. It's on him obviously you think part of it is that belt sexson like I want to. -- him a little bit I want to preserve. Both of the running back toward more so than they're also I don't -- later in the year --"

Play from 9:41[9:41]" you have to do that no one's worried statement Adrian Peterson in if you're good you're good you're and once saved Emmett Smith. He carried the past 700 times season and I must say generally that ms. Smith I'm to say it if you're already thinking about bad week one. That you should have draft the guy in the first round I kept going to talk to cut carpet sell it. I didn't like we said you know no I'm not called -- Abbas of the -- this point a little disappointed I keep waiting for of the tiebreak now he's on a -- he has not that we are talking this. He's okay and no insane he's been a -- believe me when not when -- we just you know we think you've been okay. But not great."

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Play from 10:31[10:31]" Are you should know that's not all out here appear that it progress that you now have broken the first commandment in and Gary as -- right people and you up for that but. We going to take your emails all love this first our web radio patriots dot com again web radio at patriots dot com. They're coming in faster fears Tom and I am going to go to the first one pavano strikes you're near and dear to your heart it's from Clint Clint schools. Mourning the loss of -- venture I knew you would be upset about the loss of ray Tom knowing I can't afford -- for you in the guys I did the next best thing I could. I've -- all of our point for the pro bowl ball thank you condolences -- clip it's like to see the caliber of what's on the probable ballot. Law apparently he's the starting full level -- played all -- is going to go well for him to but yes. My biggest regret -- that ever had a chance to see. By an -- got that talk after his big eyes and sort of just a chance would have protected they act like -- premium practice it was a big week forum. But -- you were right assume that you saw on the plane news said that they QBs that will be off the roster next week you were under percent rate of those guys and in all seriousness that work hard. You know -- Not a ton of talent it is if -- those guys and I stone yet whether it's coaches anyone if you work hard and putting your time he'll give you -- little slump when he talked about -- last year at the press conference that was about -- glowing endorsement I've heard him give anybody. He he definitely takes a shine to the guys that work their way up from the bottom and they got to do all of those tasks on the way nothing is handed to them. So I definitely can see him back with the practice squad and who knows maybe back on the on the roster that some injuries and they need some help on special teams again and anybody watched inside the NFL last night HB OI always forget it so I watched a little of and I did not see this prize that PJ is talking about cases collins' -- said last night that no one would beat the patriots in the playoffs because you need to have. Speed Russians. But the patriots will be watering down the fields create bad field conditions. Peter's as I guess he didn't get the memo we didn't really -- I slide them more on college what is really got out of his way to sort of the last couple weeks saying how great the patriots like over the top he went on her psychology seems like -- went from -- really criticizing every little thing to all of sudden the last couple weeks going. Complete 180 the other way and and saying how great they aren't -- unbeatable in. You know I don't take that way anymore -- it was some degree assault and then I did the other it was a little bit like other on her pick in the cowboys exactly excited by it. I also wanted to get enough unfortunately I know Mike to come Padres here didn't see it. Has been the first time I ever saw anything on NFL network that competency but my prayer is officiating and I wanted to watch last night specifically for the patriots colts game and there was our boy Mike Pereira again as predicted. The NFL list it'll never made an incorrect call the Ellis Hobbs called he claimed was accurate. Because he said when the contact was made by -- to know what's initialed the replay it was definitely contact when that contact was made. Hobbes wasn't looking back for the ball so that means he'd come off. And wasn't looking for the ball before he deserved the flag which I think is a total load of crap and once again in the NFL. I think would be much better served just a minute from time to time when they make mistakes."

Play from 14:00[14:00]" Yeah I agree in you know -- upstairs this is the exact reason why this cannot be -- fuel pool penalty because. My guess is if they would review one that based on what. Prayers says like the rule -- you can always take any rule that that's why don't that's why Pete the talk rule I think it was a fumble I think it was a fumble that they could take any rule it's technicality in LA is as Palestinians. So I think if they look at that review I think what is what is the probably ipso -- because I think that's the way that they look at these things that you confine game. Anyway you want and that's why I think -- needs to be 15 yard penalty so at least if it's that to keep tack call like I think that one was. It's not as damaging to a team and I just the whole thing about oh dragon receivers down prevent touchdown. Half the time with a balls in the -- defensive backs only go to where they are but what Randy moss goes up -- up for that pass against the -- he would I had no chance to bring him down before that that's -- they're so. I think that's little overblown -- that the but it used to that happens but don't you see that happen all the time anyway at a guy's really beaten badly why would you. They -- now it's."

Play from 15:05[15:05]" Having given up a touchdown we should have a chance. I was have a few people out of written in about that -- want to get the some of those emails Bob is the first one. I supper -- on FL network equipment -- is -- was justified because he claimed that Artest what cut off Reggie Wayne while Wayne was looking back at the ball and Hodge was shot at the very moment of the initial contact. In my opinion the replay shows that it appears that Wayne. Well looking for the ball was angling his body toward ops and then puts his left hand on the left shoulder -- and then wraps his left hand around Hobbs has left elbow. As is going full speed toward the pylon and thus cannot prevent. Rubbing up against -- with his left double that he did not talk -- down or throw an off course in my opinion -- exceptional body control four per trade did not matter that a split second later -- did turn his head to look back at the ball. After the contact in supposedly did his job properly but Pereira also imply that -- point. Had not look back at the ball at the very moment of contact my odds that house would not have been flagged for pass interference -- session to the experts is if the hypothetically way if hypothetically Wayne wasn't looking back at the ball at the very moment -- cut him off. Why is that not passing affairs because wooden Hobbs have been impeding Wayne from getting to the general tiger at the ball anyway."

Play from 16:24[16:24]" Nothing well I just think the idea is if he's looking back he's in the process of trying to make the catch. So he's established himself in that process I mean this is the fear I don't really buy it. But I think the theory they go way it is he's in the process of establishing himself making the catcher attempting to make the catch. I think that. Is the difference there whereas the rest of it he's just running down the field he's looking in the same direction Hobbs is so he can avoid Hobbs Hobbs and have to get out of his way that this this email goes on for a couple of days yes spread that little hand just -- just set while walking in shows there is no food here. We're very just."

Play from 17:00[17:00]" Point you all right -- actually thought you might bring food because we are very worried about yesterday in Europe for Alabama senior hair combed ever. Okay what we get to another one -- Quincy also wanted to weigh in on the the Pereira to buckle in my opinion that's I would by the way. I'm sure you'll just the -- situation if you haven't already but after hearing his explanation regarding the PI column I was. I figure out who reminds me do you guys remember the Iraq invasion there was this half ass Iraqi military guy was dubbed Baghdad Bob. That's him. He used to hold press comments is in the streets of downtown Baghdad saying that everything was okay. There was no invasion in the if it was would regret the day they threatened the great empire for a although you look over -- the way you could see smoke billowing in the Garrett temple that's. -- just in my prayers. That is what my prayer is becoming to the NFL network is -- bogus explanation about obviously it was insulting even funny here. Is how we simply ignore the other awful calls of the crew did a great job. What is the point of the -- decides they're just going to insult the intelligence of the avid fan by asking you gonna believe us or you're lying eyes. Just do away with the whole segment that's nothing in the league look at what it is WW that's what I would say is not a problem. I don't have a problem with the segment if they want to have but should they have someone else doing it and not the guy who's really in charge because if you make the guys really in charge a laughingstock. It makes the officiating look worse in general I just don't understand why these leagues and the officials they'd they'd take it as such an affront. If you actually sit there and say hey. That's probably not the way we want about one to be called. It's probably the officials that would get all bent out of shape themselves because they have a bit -- boss on TV on the mile. To me they get paid decent money that to do the job and it's an important one and not once have they got the calls from purpose know -- question their integrity outside knowing when I was excited knowing Nomar. I just sometimes you make a mistake that was a mistake. You can't tell me that because house wasn't actually looking back for the ball at the time that he made contact about makes it a penalty. That doesn't make any sense so should they be able to admit their mistake you say you don't want your boss Colonia on TV should they be able to admit their own mister -- what I mean what I mean if you take if a player's perspective Tom Brady can stand up and say. Action from that pass it was in the double coverage it got picked. And it it was a mistake mission done social. Side judge field after the game saying I blew that call -- want to get some. A couple of different angles here Shane in Miami rights and he says he thought that the -- affairs and -- Was a horrible call however I think Mike Pereira explained it well on NFL network last night. He said that at the point the first contact Hobbs was not playing the ball and cut off Reggie Wayne's right to the ball. But the call was close of emperor made it sound -- really looked back the ball the same time he -- to win a close call could be called either way but does the punishment fit the crime. Giving up 50 question well wasn't that much it was only 40 on a question about -- feel is just too much of an advantage of the offense what about offense -- an appearance it's only a ten yard penalty no matter the circumstance. The whole spot of the penalty thing is just too much especially when the call is borderline do you think this could ever be changed. By the rules committee I we've talked about it every year when he official's comment I just don't think they have any interest in changing it appeared to I I agree I think the call was was bad and I I will say on that segment last night but I like the reason I like the segment. There were some things there that we're adjusting first of all on on the issue of the crew that that's gotten a lot of attention. If people keep saying it was a rookie through it wasn't a rookie crew. It was accurate throw to first but it's he's not a key to his first year being a -- for -- already. And did you know before they were a phrase that has nothing to do with all the calls. But -- you know the other guys you know they all -- a playoff referees last year. Four of the bent back crew was swear in the superbowl last year. And but it is the first year of the crew being together as a crew right. I think that's that's the case every and keep the crew on the I'm I don't go beyond that by. I I think that -- a mixed and matched every year -- my point is. But 'cause it's the guy in his first year as a refereed doesn't have anything to do with the guy 40 yards downfield on a bad pass offense penalty. And I think that -- perera was trying to point out even though he would even admit that it was a bad call but the open that was funny I told you guys about this but they they always show like to a three different plays in -- third one they showed. Was screened in Kansas City. And after look little screen -- dump off to. For -- are antsy and it looked like it may have gone backwards. The one off of his hand went back which he went chased it kicked out of town -- got called for a an illegal -- penalty. We went to review so they -- Corrected the call because the past actually went toward which negated that the kicking penalty but. Now the referees got over Fisher says they want to do and they called him for delay of game. And Pereira said about his flat out wrong they shouldn't have done that and -- I was it was refreshing to actually see you know it was a -- though it was a penalty called that was incorrect mind -- wasn't a judgment that was incorrect it was just bad. In the implementation of the rules base he said was wrong so. I take this I it has some merit to that that segment I just think that there will be better off. Just kinda once in awhile saying hey you know what that's not the way we wanted to call by Freddy you just going to sit back there make all kinds of -- are you going to join us feel."