PFW in Progress - 11/13/2007

Tue, 13 Nov 2007

Listen to this extended edition of PFW in Progress as the writers of Patriots Football Weekly discuss all the bye week happenings, offer their opinions on this past weekends NFL games, and preview Sunday nights divisional matchup against the Buffalo Bills. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, Tom and newcomer Erik Scalavino as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Listen LIVE Tuesday - Friday at noon (ET) and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 1:18[1:18]" I about the 50 out of progress -- it's Tuesday here at stadium and getting prepared for the big game this weekend of course talking about the New England Revolution -- Houston dynamo. That is probably here to talk about the patriot. And the bills are coming up off day here after week. An eagle on day right. Yeah in the country a public -- Tuesday five days off one on another off but the ball -- schedule I think they've earned it and I think it's good to get give them a little bit of break after. Nine games you know. -- right time to let idiom Fred -- you up part of depressed over a bad -- rolling guys and it -- at my -- working. I'm not here we're what we're worried about it in the winter from him last I heard it was the doctors. Yet some type of thing go a little action on them and maybe ever doubt he might he might go up there aren't good. But which are probably before -- and you know it is Turkey so. No thank you powerless bat from Quincy with a big. The big guy like today somebody out through a week we actually got through and I don't know who the other pro is probably yeah yeah it's. Point Sarah about the -- amazement tremendous. To listeners that old car dealerships. I'm on the look out Honda Toyota owner -- simple I totally don't look at the -- when --"

Play from 3:06[3:06]" Anyway all right absorb -- I enjoyed the week haven't been here about a week I have to. And I left Friday afternoon and I have to be -- different. And make him play thought -- the colts game I didn't I what -- minutes it was Eckstein and I thought that game was long over. On what IR IR India are a lot of -- Tom Brady. In the first two with three games last year at -- and and then you know done to find out the next data not only -- the win by a ball people -- and terrible. It was heart broke I don't you know you don't cut him. No I didn't mean a great game for the patriot doesn't really matter you know on him like that but it's difficult. You know it's tough for me anyway and he doesn't have weapons and yet not at home you know not. Puppet in music for the opponent in the -- aren't. Making calls for you have to win and I wonder if they -- is not -- the -- week the way -- I I think they should be I think the rest. Screwed up a couple -- out. Wave will be immortal Paul -- a -- they work they were bad at the end of that game no doubt about it and dungy. Terrible -- are bad yeah yeah that game not only just wasting time out."

Play from 4:25[4:25]" Which he admitted to later which was clearly McMichael if any should because he let his emotions get the better as -- yesterday if you're gonna get your let your emotions get the better if you throw the red flag like bill -- acted against it would just take that is a timeout you know the official. But also dont -- right at the -- The other issue -- that I am the illegal motion on the in the plate. That's something where he needs to oversee that play it's clearly a designed play that the going to use in situations like that he let the -- and -- kind of brought me back to the play that they practice against the patriots all week long -- meaning when under nap and then it was a direct snap out. He didn't know the -- practicing a play in the executing the way they practiced it and getting a penalty because it because he's not. Main engineer and a -- that they'll really what."

Play from 5:12[5:12]" I'd -- not that different -- went one here in playoff date they broke a rule play -- I'm not this I judgement call I guess if you if you think the guys doing it to draw the guy is typically to draw the guy off sides. How they thought I was a summer guys talk funniest union I think if there was one them. That the natural football movement you do every -- you know they talk all they want -- the going motion and shifting and that they called on the out of the had a bright and and that happens every point. It's -- it was one of those things I know exactly -- money and he with the play in playoff where. Now that's how we practiced well practiced at Ron you're not as prepared as you might be. I think maybe they got screwed but I still -- coached very good game and the Caribbean to Romeo to Indian think. Romeo and I only otsuka bad amount of bad challenge and I think it's -- handed out right and I think it's really works for him because. In theory everybody thinks he's just bringing the Bill Belichick that with a equivalence that doesn't have a guy in the -- that his job. Is to tell him challenge not challenger whatever but do it quickly you don't think a timeout and then to lose the challenge on top of that that that -- a game why not engine prop up immediately right now the only game -- not a great game. One when he might not challenge if you really think that -- I don't patch count anyway. But there was about 13 laps which meant he only had another Munich in 13 which I don't right. Take out what you want go beyond a minute warning you -- challenging. When a game I went into overtime I have to quality time so why call a timeout refugees just. You challenge like if you -- is the time -- take your time on -- right -- the point that to a bad but getting back to that call game I think the other call obvious he was in Denver that really group. Because it. But 80 yard field the bad call in when he went to the that the officials I think I'd call holes at three week. And that was really. There as Mike I had everything I'm sure you'll find out more at the beginning and that they were going to I was excited about a week out don't blow the -- right because they wanted to napoleon's that they give them back this week but did you read that. I think pro football talk that that Miguel Cabrera in the house after the patriots yet and that it that you he's a little. What do you look at you get -- mountain get down on bank. Billy goal I officials lifetime banishment -- everything though it's definitely. Nothing has to be done here because I don't know for its replay in the getting a little because they know they've got replay. You know I don't all -- arc but the I don't think that they have not as much as this I bad call they were getting -- they should've let the play on polka they can fix it every given up a good point though I think is -- I think -- replay has kind of you know they might look at I'm not really but the replay it anyway you know active in -- okay web radio back military web radio that they --"

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Play from 8:39[8:39]" I can't -- I I was listening to such a thing claybrook. On boards like this weekend evident carded a hundred -- felt like -- ball. John Buck and that they got. -- a little -- about it. Ali had student in her into an area yeah -- they're putting it. Yeah -- that that's where you need to be alive keep call upper email I mean at a rate late night with. Even not a new outlook but I -- without giving it a bit of that and the I upgrade and the cold and I think I sort of expected."

Play from 9:36[9:36]" They know great hope they -- you -- now without saying and it I didn't I don't know because I wouldn't. I just didn't know and doing. It's -- out in the first thought you guys know that he'd get better or."

Play from 9:52[9:52]" You know -- I I I have to agree I didn't notice a lot of it I did go to -- and after getting around the causing the pressure. And I thought he was doing about it. Yeah it was on the field or for pat you know more when -- out there aren't a lot."

Play from 10:14[10:14]" don't -- break down like how we played instead and and it I -- played like. A little over half but it's not I want I want her to go to like the injury or whatever it was a little."

Play from 10:27[10:27]" Might have had a -- injury but I don't think that. I don't think his workload on that much more men on on -- regular. Do you guys feel like you play every now know mostly I don't well I mean I think a lot of the a lot of formations where they spread out the call deep that they kept walk in the backfield in you know either a fake the draw two or for protection chip and I think that might have taken Brady out of the game because they needed that spot for the next Seaver. You know evidence -- back field I don't know. You know -- theory."

Play from 11:05[11:05]" And it -- talk a little bit about Eddie actor. I know he was one of the guys that are on the way out like with Welker statement -- an extra little call that. Spell check being is greater but I didn't. What do you guys seen or heard about Eddie Jackson and its potential the game well and provide good depth."

Play from 11:26[11:26]" terms of what we've heard. And things you did that they'd been gave him a glowing recommendation even though he was injured and I think that had a lot to do with bill signing him obviously he looks at the film easily has but. You look at him and his build wise he's one of those. Impulse behind us as a cornerback but he looks like a safety. And he's just very big upper body he look like the kind of guy that could be a core specialty humor. With the size combined with his speed and that plea he his most immediate impact is is on special teams and then terms as defense of back I don't know much about him but. You know I he's a bottom of that the roster type depth guy there I think."

Play from 12:02[12:02]" And who you think it's that group when he is healthy they decide to activate him. You know will our our."

Play from 12:10[12:10]" Well I mean will and I are would always be a -- ability as you get later in the year with. With these injuries that go on you know 34 type weeks Mel Mitchell is still injured on some sort of surprised he's been able to avoid the IR. Bought for a long as he has. Seeing as he's only a specialty -- now. And what it is a month plus now that he's been. Injured -- on the practice field not even really not only did he did -- last -- to take interest -- little -- actually yeah -- on the -- I -- an -- it -- got -- be -- of these -- actually -- and -- Alexander -- candidate -- Action at this time your appointment because it does allow you to that have that extra time at a low point in his don't make a run of -- what. Human you know get it take the full 14 days over the by. Then reevaluate when he gets like Friday maybe of the week and that of course Troy brown started practicing yesterday. What they do with that they have 21 way days. From yesterday no the last two from last classically resulted in practice they'll they opened a window there that was November 28 I -- 14 more days to make it is right."

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Play from 14:42[14:42]" day went on his name on and hot right now. Wesley Clark as we -- it up right went up went the slides in an email we get that right away and quick email to game. I hope the food came okay thank you -- pop added plastic knife with Tom -- he got the joke. I believe it. But he did haven't cut and a night but we don't -- a ball a little worried about. Say about the call -- but I'm too busy today -- with a joke. I -- called smart -- let me just say after this bill pole joke on the colts what I thing. That may pole in right -- down to the -- the other patriot the red in Aaron more. Funny anyway enjoy the food look at you Matt from quit now on our honorable"

Play from 15:38[15:38]" we've warhead what do you -- and and I told what a for a five minute Eckstein enough of Aaron more had I if he's still look at team identity you can show you how to situations receiver he was responsible like -- and then -- Peyton Manning went to -- month fourth -- to. I don't know like you are you might. Could could open -- credit because when my favorite guy. Was on radio morning talking about football and about his -- team in the way. I think he was taking gotta tackle -- talk about how the patriots it's very important to build steam. And haven't not yet in all areas that win injury happens. You can have guys out there and he'll win not only now I'd I knew that accurate. Love them tactic it is accurate because I technical shall you. And night they -- and buy it all and they'll eat. And law because ticket in aren't gays or not but -- two years ago not -- not that I am not saying it didn't happen or not that I can. They didn't have a full 45 -- my choice. But it didn't wait for men and I don't remember much and it didn't I don't remember I I don't. Not at all but I read on local ball talk dot com I believe today. Shop floor it was the make a point that they that much money on. Aren't 380 in any Arab and that they don't have quality depth data on radiant Tom it -- I mean what went right."

Play from 17:39[17:39]" and I talked about this Sunday on. I think that that why you call that -- so -- Good points the -- I'm all -- I am getting credit. -- I think raped because that's what you do the lack of depth I don't doubt that a very valid argument is have a lot of big money players. Rather than spread out the gallery way to 82 after the top two eyes the colts have more like top eight and on -- and it a lot of young guys on special teams not a new phenomenon. They've been on. Three of four years. And on and I wouldn't kick return in return for a touchdown but. I agree with the notion not -- A collection of individuals I have been -- off. Without a lot of their players last games again call better teams in the league. No it was a good one you need to might make a mistake by not doing everything in the way that ball you know -- to doing. Ivan receptions and a ticket to. -- the last. A group. But when it -- on in. I thought that there are pretty tightly and secret with the on -- in the patriots as deep as they may be in the spread out the value of their roster if you take away mosques and Welker Matt light or what second or bad."

Play from 19:21[19:21]" Well at that -- way that you take away according to an ardent according to one member are all worn out like west well it always gave Dallas Clark actually Welker -- identical to win -- here I am by the way -- all take away nick catcher. Because they lost their backup to. I'm just saying I don't that they won't we have all the I don't know I don't think I go to while people -- like apples with with the league. Not ala the in my eyes with the quality I had without a let down quarterback look at legitimately. Review is Marvin. The top receiver. -- wait hold hold on. -- you know -- helluva lot better than market. It in numbers. About it -- we don't -- okay ability to read an easy not to build that well count. -- you're totally black guy who some people believe is the second best receiver in the history of the game but not anymore. That's why can't anymore -- half year what has good as Mark. I would do -- really not this year having. Actually I'm here. Compare losing rated RYR I -- we're not going to -- on the ground -- the top one but it shouldn't -- is what should. Why shouldn't be because other receivers don't happen."

Play from 21:10[21:10]" Point is if you in Kelley Washington in. Whoever's next in the papers that -- the often going to be hindered. If you take -- that like the -- going to be hitter I don't think it's fair. Throw -- they -- we have great -- you don't -- to have better depth local radio -- NATO but I think you take away their number one in the numbers and their slot receiver but they're starting left tackle their backup left -- to starting linebackers their best defense -- suddenly the patriots -- look like a lot different team -- without the patriots win -- may not make the dumb mistakes that Tony -- did not going undefeated -- now -- along with -- lashed out there and I went there and I called the same thing I think the -- would be -- 1214 at all. An act of good point they won't be at 12 and 14 if they eat -- The best and I thought about it to make the argument that they probably should've won both I think the funny thing is the next two teams in the if he -- the colts in the chargers 11 and think they're worst team because they won because all the players and their viral and the other one is bank I mean the patriots further and further away from the pack. I mean the dealers were lucky they were able to come back. The patriots -- at home -- you know it by the way totally -- you read read would you please make that I don't all the the line I'll bet that that line -- them."

Play from 22:43[22:43]" I I knew that might stop terrible week I don't know -- actually had a good week yeah apparently picking winners include -- with Brett yet when you and I did very well. I know the winners off and on the phone right now is it that he you know if they --"

Play from 22:59[22:59]" I'm doing good how you doing guys that Anthony. Just another argument that I you guys we're a target of their I think you've got a little point they're so it is that. I think like the all star hurts so much has been like why they weren't playing that well not sense is that. I got there and I watched again and that made the point of same that was almost fight is since the last time paid Manny actually had a horrible. And I think that makes a huge difference when you hit your back up in the air because you know Marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne in eight innings we go to saint Pete. Eight when they look at the scene -- that went on -- so they know what they're going to do you know they have replays that they go there -- and just use that chemistry. And I think when he -- one back up in the air like morehead all the sudden everything gets. Brought up that it -- and that I think it causes a domino effect that the desperate."

Play from 23:50[23:50]" I do think that. Something were -- they have in echo unit with meaning and Wayne Clark and that they haven't really. Rotated guys you're dealt with theater of changing weapons and that's been a drink for them over the years that every they've been offense but when you do lose those key guys -- greater challenge -- less than a million cold and you know other Edgerrin James a couple times in the past. Though the core guys you mention. Hardly ever got her -- never know when I'll be right now -- as he broke a foot against the Patriot Act on. And been an -- out on the obvious bought him out just about any. -- why I think the 22 wide receivers have been LP but -- titans running back capital. I've been helping a guy Manny the other guy -- healthy and Oakley was it was always played. -- know another loose change I totally agree for a as well. That you have. Dynamic receiver on the out right anybody catch up again what did that mean what with Walker's that I never brought him up I just agree with what I what I agree I. And I'll idea it was a minute Brandon Stokley."

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