PFW in Progress - 11/27/2007

Tue, 27 Nov 2007

Listen as Fred, Paul, Tom and Andy recap the Patriots' victory over the Eagles and answer your questions on this edition of PFW in Progress.

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Play from 4:50[4:50] ..." Would you hear Dick Jauron say during his post game press conference as we kinda knew this could happen it sounds to me like he's a coastal"...

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Play from 2:05[2:05]" Be hungry because usually LB worried not lashing back but he -- his negative galleries in the -- into -- on -- because no one at lunch. We -- the right off the top that that. And the topic about the -- that a first time of the year thread. Well first football game in the -- to a -- On -- first game. -- date with there was actually a football game first -- which is what I think you're referring to maybe the MIA eight games coming up on that I'm looking forward to those may be -- enemy of my mind out tonight. Probably not the first day Indy but again your -- minors getting screwed royally. At Brockton again playoff game they have to play -- playing at the at the team at that as often not a tree is gone our way -- Now you're not -- that the water -- most of -- neutral site and I'd play him at places with fields are now in Miami claims that division one games need to be. Not only on field -- but it plays -- big enough to hold the people now but not make him get hosed as always while this is it is that -- ticketed event. And to they sold in advance or you walk up by him I have no idea how is -- that -- just wondering how many they relative fans -- and meanwhile the patriots almost lost out of date night I had met a total night. -- defending -- so let's talk about tickets and I don't want to make sure I want to if they might even out a number of people and he died. You know like a Super Bowl that it neutral site in you know. Technically -- amount of fans but. Europeans brought that's going to have a bigger crowds and that's in Brockton I don't know not a it's -- it would help out and why don't. I can't believe the only two that passed up like I. I was a great a great game. Great games and it was well Monica from an entertainment value as a very good game but just let our play it was played -- that was played at a very -- from my perspective I would like a blow -- I don't know if a playoff game at a playoff atmosphere -- that game was in question is no doubt about that -- it was a it was a and I know you're uptight about it we're all we couldn't believe it I mean you couldn't give the nod. I gave known odds and Daniel picked off that yeah. Couldn't give the -- that it's a game although I am in full disclosure if you asked me after angels' first interception likely would have given the nod and right and had been wrong I mean it was looking pretty bad for the eagles right off the bat to have that happen but. Hey you gotta hand at the eagles like you were in all earlier. They're a team that weren't afraid to do something different they came to win. They showed up predicted exactly -- how many and united and all year after ample -- to -- after."

Play from 4:50[4:50]" Would you hear Dick Jauron say during his post game press conference as we kinda knew this could happen it sounds to me like he's a coastal -- they calls with the patriots and not give blow now. -- came here that if we get blown out week he would -- now or were -- to win this game and he show that by the way he coached -- offensively and defensively special teams I thought it was a great game -- all the way around -- give. Credit to the patriot. This is ES PNC and they -- too close games I would say they played three when behind in the third quarter on the road that Dallas I don't they put in the final touchdown kind of make the score look. Look where that was what they played three pretty tough games who on the road they've won all three so I -- anyway -- blue ball out."

Play from 5:31[5:31]" If the patriots a lot of credit for this game because. I think that it it you know. It's easy to. You know they -- sloppy game a lot of turnovers a lot of mistakes I didn't really -- that you know the patriots were I had 30 in the turnover battle. But yet they still kept plugging it didn't make a lot of problems they were playing reasonably well. -- I didn't make life difficult on themselves they needed to play well to win. And I give them credit for doing that finding ways do it on. Sure like Tom as a I don't understand why they wanna annual net on them citing drive. -- my guess is that AJ -- will never be able to forget that he did that -- they were doing so well I mean -- call it annual credit for having great coverage on the play in major play. That's why you won the game as a -- made that and I think when you look at who coach are always talk about bad coaching I think with no good coach you went up the patriots. Ellis obstacle now Eddie Jackson committed we all late for that -- to -- and the eagles did an at a much doubt Buehrle under through the ball that was a great move by and a eagles coach kept fighting on the paper they took away Randy moss actively you know yeah he was different from underneath passes but no over the top he's had to -- when they dropped -- but. It wasn't an easy catch now it was a difficult part was getting positioned to make the play and he got he did the hard part I didn't catch the ball they had they had good coverage and play believe that a lot that you would guy they've been double coverage and in position. But -- finds a way to get his -- it's on the ball and he did -- yesterday I've gotten the point where he would it's in the hands -- and -- catch what do you think though all the talk about the eagles have -- in the league the blueprint of how to do patriot. I mean what will will probably get into it a little bit on TV tonight to Fred by. Is that the point point via I agree with the whistles -- you are on all -- if you are Tom and I -- doing well on taken a bullet. But I was going to now."

Play from 7:34[7:34]" But the thing is spread. We all kind of all the -- You got the pressure or 80 yet be physical with the receivers that attack that he -- now on the field we all know this. Only 13 -- think it can't do it right back eagles did it because they have a good secondary and they had got they had balls on the offensive side not to run the ball in the into the line -- the football they said you know what we can't run what is going to throw and they did that night."

Play from 8:00[8:00]" You know -- I can't quick about it and at that point but it was kinda it was it was you know the symbolism of what it meant yeah they they were going to leave no aren't they at a flea flicker in the game that resulted in -- down. Right on you know didn't wasn't a 50 yard touchdown machine basket camp were they had the odds -- anti flea -- they -- early in the -- I was really early in the game. They showed that Andy reached -- a team that would not going to be content here to show up -- have a moral victory were going after it. Is what you do when the other team is great and the patriots are Corey easily things you have to do. Yeah they -- shall I -- the patriot the credit for that because -- not on into the trap that all the patriots didn't take in my book I thought they were going to blow amount I was wrong I was everything whatever. Well almost everybody out later that ball game Sunday night the eagles played have a good football team in the patriots won today or could they worked out for the game it was like they the Payton came out the -- aren't that high intensity all the weight or act -- Philadelphia did in the picked you know they didn't play. It if asked in the year we want to make that but when I thought Philadelphia did a good job of it made me at the patriots work for all the yard. You know that of letting them catch. You know a ten yard slant in and haven't doctors don't go 80 for a touchdown or mock sketch of bomb for a touchdown and made the work board. Moscow you know welcome cut 13 -- that's a lot of past. Hundred 49ers kept them out of the end zone now and it made the work -- on the field slowly and methodically. And when when it's all said and done it was quick to point four points -- and only a lot of points you score two point four points every week in his league probably going to win going to win most -- but -- but that's half of what they've been scoring. And he -- with anything in the fourth catch it means he had to make an. Army Gaffney had to make a great catch in the in order to get that it was a huge place yeah -- ticket to feel -- probably -- if you drive he does that -- that -- had huge numbers as far as yards go only have one touchdown pass. But this kind of an argument about whose MVP Mark of radio and the team. Because they took away -- rate the -- as that went -- there was number really a lot of R&R -- with -- I don't think anyone -- you -- that I think a lot of people I don't I don't really -- you -- you guys -- I don't understand the distinction league -- team because the league MVP they've proven -- give it to a quarterback as a -- year -- but what about what you think should -- not -- we think is going to. I think Brady should -- 60 touchdown I I I think there were some people say it's really bought that's really change but I don't think anyone legitimately. People legitimately was talking point the talk radio interesting point if you can make an argument for. This kind of I don't think there is a legitimate argument or any early in the I I just don't -- on the team with Tom Brady just don't they took a lot of the game of the patriots clearly wanted to work 44 point Tom Brady threw for 380 yards on my -- I I I think. I just I think Brady's -- In and that all along I think it would you when you make a mockery of the court in two point the most important position in your making a mockery of the statistics at that spot to -- that means that that bad but he's the best player and I finally -- take one guy away. Stella got him holding onto his hadn't -- taken one album you can only they've won that it was a -- right. If you wanted to literal. And that I have valuable players want to go -- that I would -- away there is no debate but at that point of altamont. You know. Looked at what point still highly productive games is -- and is not 48 away and so many other games when moss has been involved look at I think it's different. They didn't have that dynamic aspect of the tactic they -- a lot of other games of -- knees. Long touchdown but it was effective in the in the N if you -- reasons why they are right -- could make an argument for want to think they would. The eagles game in until the fourth quarter the colts game you pretty much been. You know kept in check to initially at that point oh that would be argument from when you take him out of the -- they -- back to the party at all but one of the reasons why they were able to take wants out was because. They were getting pressure on Brady inept our pressure to wait for moss to get downfield. He was banged up he's got hit hard on that early in the game -- was pressured the -- though. You know a good job by the eagles to get pressure on -- well they have got pressure on the quarterback all the years that Italy -- of the game there if it wasn't necessarily you know a lot of it well. You know the eagles to -- and they had a lot of you know these Rusch is coming from all sides I don't think it was really like I've thought. They just had consistent pressure throughout the -- really had reached acts and it was 59 drop a lot. -- wasn't about -- it was about rhythm and one of the around kind of running. Out of some of the pressure that's where it all three sacks you could make an argument and it worked coverage they recovered had a chance to look and caught the ball and then yeah yeah yeah. By a big. Yet if you watch it and he he looks like he wanted to throw it didn't happen but it sort of I think it was the pressure I still think that he's on -- quick and ought to consider that -- everybody -- level even if yet gotten rid of it though but -- You know he would have been hit hard but -- but that that we do in Europe and that's okay where a lot of different opinions on like. That leaves the lack of balance the pictures showed in the first if -- right I mean they rip the ball when you get all worked up knowing el Al Qaeda al. They had actually one running play which was Heath Evans thought otherwise it was -- scrambling according to the paralyzed for two touchdowns. Really gotten -- idea -- but the report well what was that all out Aram no idea. Listen I'm -- it the way it is. Would -- anymore was in the game they gave the ball 41 time back to back. I'm have a hard time believing that happened between game plan goals two week. If you're gonna give it journeyman backup running at if you have more confidence -- letting him on the ball. Because right now -- or saint. I'm passing down old Kevin ball over or give pass protecting the football on short yarder late goal keep that in -- world is a good short -- Hitler the world policy. -- what has -- that's one thing I think has been proven wrong I think he's had two good touchdown runs last two weeks and that's actually -- right that was it to get it. Click but this week in the had a good that's one of those I don't. Heath Evans is I don't understand -- odd thing I do understand Kevin Faulk being if you gonna -- ran offense in you -- go no huddle. You have Kevin Faulk on the field -- soma buy one that's what he does I'm sorry I just don't think -- a guy doesn't step on the feel -- an object -- clearly wasn't -- because -- the second -- in my mind. I'm just assuming here and I know nothing. He was and it for the first half he was disciplined something there was a reason even step on the field they show what his helmet on that's when those telltale I'm talking behind the coach signs. I'm just assuming there's something isn't ready or is that the bigger problem but yet because here we are. Article -- he's obviously doing on the -- the have competent for some reason don't give me the ball and it was it was it wasn't an injury it was I think. Again my opinion he was reprimanded suspended whatever -- had anything to do with that piper. Could be. And then I also thought yesterday when someone asked about -- bills that I just incidentally didn't. He talked about any offense scores points with where. Going out there to have them score points to me if you just answered that you're considering that the answer. The next thing you have no confidence in Laurence Maroney to contribute to the off so I also added that two little -- answer of -- you suspend did you hear him and colony suspension rightward amusing. What we're going to do you discipline right now. It's you know -- to our hats and more out -- we stressed again just opinions and I went out and noticed all that behind the scenes we don't. It was weird that he sat out the entire half. -- got ten calories and ten carries a regular workload wanted to regain a regular more than a regular right yeah. I mean -- like you guys have been dismissed."

Play from 17:37[17:37]" and he draws Brett so there was no and there there was no it so you're going to have -- at your best pass protector. Bill that he thought that was the matchup in the past the wind was spread them out I don't know he wouldn't I asked them after the game about Philadelphia do you fancy wouldn't. You wouldn't comment that the fans. He just said they had the ball three times in the first half and 17 point I just think you're spread them out and I'm -- Brady yet what even to equate Thomas as it was a great play by neatly in radio and getting a low. I've always -- on the explain around the ball that -- during action because you have to. Here is New England deep fences tell us if we can make an opponent one dimensional we win we don't have to play defense when we wake them one dimensional we went well Josh McDaniel bill bell a check and company made the patriots one dimensional the first step in the eagles. And the eagles. Almost one right and that even though Lee was -- points in the board. I don't necessarily think it will the re doing and Tom and I action -- the Washington game. Everybody forgets and because in the top 50 to seven it was a joke the game started kinda similar to this. In that some of the things the Redskins were trying to do you could and they were making the patriots really work yet they'll make them convert on third down but it's so good they gonna X. That's why did the best team in the league they even when you make him earn it they gonna hurt it more time. And and Washington's offense kept going in now before you know they got beaten down to a pulp in the game was over. For example you'll pay -- make up enough in Philadelphia goes out there and now. It's public that I get that now it's probably 14 I opting in on the way to look at these experts and right that I get the -- for but Philadelphia responded you know -- augmented with they were trying to do on defense and made the patriots to -- again they actually appointed to stop the -- on the in the second half -- what would."

Play from 19:31[19:31]" Happened that Donovan McNabb I don't think so now. I don't think and I executed like an almost say that he -- feelings about record is not known example at a later asking me for this particular game one game. What do I would have rather had the leader for that kinda game plan kinda like it. A couple years -- job and would it was better actually better to have all right -- the patriots could stop the -- that and he was able to get the ball on the field I think the Donovan McNabb errors over -- I think going like that anyone other than Don McNabb I don't think the team likes him at whatever the dynamic is RBI I don't feel right -- his brother out."

Play from 20:07[20:07]" I agree with it he might have -- immoral he might go somewhere -- I think he counted I think he has -- I'm the opera is just not work do you go a different direction. That we talked about the whole blueprint things kind of a joke but. What did we learn. Maybe we already know it by Jerry stink does the hope that they're not big into but I -- the linebackers coverage I think we -- definitively -- get a lot of pressure on the past that in the past and we've talked about the teams are because they in this league if you get any quarterback time he's going to find an open -- but. You know they were getting hit with quick I think -- I think is when I was going to sailors that shot it it wasn't really a lot of time that he can I thought they had. The pressure -- day at a time it and get -- Thursday but I thought they were around the path. Well and invade and get rid of the ball got one but you know not yet that he was sacked twice one when he fell in the other -- was the fumbled that he recovered our zone. -- really didn't have a legitimate action. But you know the interception and no for the touchdown was caused by dale Thomas getting heavy pressure quickly right up the middle you know."

Play from 21:13[21:13]" It -- the team that can't rush the passer I mean they've had -- that all years we look at the Steelers here's a team that can't rush the passer. They got similar make up to their team is as the -- differences their secondary isn't quite as strong. But I think it now you're I don't think he -- like -- is that you believe culprit to give it -- the giants and the jets of the -- do you have any hope to begin with but I think if you look at the one team that has a chance the Steelers. I think maybe say if they can protect Roethlisberger little bay gives them -- spring the upset."

Play from 21:42[21:42]" Especially if they get somebody guys -- again Polamalu back I don't know how seriously he's injured and -- Santonio Holmes. Because I think ward can be taken out of the game I think of stole a lot of important I think he's a very good player but he's by -- possession guy I can -- sort of neutralizing him but -- homes as kind of a home run right on the other side now you know he can can -- in between those -- that it was talking on all for the game. The other night we were watching all of those eagles it was kind of go on checked in -- middle middle of the field. That's when you wrote your analysis I think it was right on you mean there I think. Wide open I think they targeted Westbrook and I think on some level maybe it's only 20% they spewed Curtis over the top the guy averages 16 yards a catcher or the big play type guy. -- those were one and two that they were looking forward pass defense -- if you take away the short you take went along. It's obviously going to leave your little vulnerable to Melanie built tells us all time you can't take away everything yet it if you look at the -- prevent the I think the biggest -- on. As a as a cowboy guy idol. -- for the -- west rookie is a heck of a football player and not too many people have that -- a guy who could run for a hundred who can catch for a hundred. Ordered to -- not a big deal with the other -- in this game it wasn't what he -- it was you fearing what -- is -- in trying to stop what -- yesterday Avery Willis McGahee he would do -- with him with one guy but -- panic but look at head -- Pittsburgh -- Willie -- titled -- not the past passing game -- the -- at the patriots -- stop him that -- got to some degree but not the -- anyway because Westbrook at the passing it's it's everything -- the draws -- He sold pretzels are special and stop brilliant article on just like it up the run every week he'd just ignored it -- and hope he makes on the right and you you talk about homes I think you'll like the over the top threat they -- into play will enable -- they don't know they're not healthy in their it's a little different so. I think it was Ellis Hobbs after the game that something that kind of caught my guy he's that they kind of it's both a couple things that we were trying to -- With that yet in your observation what we're talking about it. You don't know if you follow that goes yeah I asked him if you're talking about his an appeal but it can I just think it was. The way they were playing deep and only was anything that that you just admitting we were trying to take away a couple things. Maybe keep them from thinking we're trying to do that and they hit the things we were leaving it injury front will work went out early but came back he seems okay they went out with a bad back after being torched the couple lives in Colvin went out with something foot. Well how often glow thinks it's an arm."

Play from 24:29[24:29]" There's two different schools of thought -- as one you know I courteous and radio and on today to -- They read the Boston -- we were told that he he was you know on crutches after the game so if they're covering us and I'll put -- they announced foot -- you know I don't necessarily you know much like you know for example there was nobody an injury -- last week -- signal was injured. No but I think the legal look into it if if NBC complains they announced what Roosevelt Colvin in next week he ends up on the injury report an arm. Well I don't think you can just be flat out I gay and there was great for the 'cause it was a little bit of I think that they've got a little. Testy at the scalia and he looks like -- test if you different time yeah I on the -- ask questions someone asked the question earlier I think Aaron -- the bulldogs -- she asked the question earlier about the interest up to any data on -- in -- as you know -- moment you know you know Wednesday -- report comes a lot. And against Johnson my all in the world later ball up and that you just confirmed. Was it an an arm injury -- injury a -- impact because. It looked like -- the trainers working on his arm on the sideline. But they announce foot and -- it will will we announced put. In -- right Stacey instead we'll what do we announced. Well the Mets would of one and it led you to believe that. Well is that what it is or is that what -- what now. I think they're getting in trouble when if its an arm -- don't ask is why -- that right now all right I was told someone who who would know told me that it was four I."

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