PFW in Progress - 12/5/2007

Wed, 5 Dec 2007

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as we recap the Patriots come-from-behind win over the Baltimore Ravens and preview the upcoming matchup against the Pittsburgh Steelers at Gillette Stadium. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, Tom and newcomer Erik Scalavino as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Listen LIVE Tuesday - Friday at noon (ET) and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 45:08[45:08] ..." play well to Steelers and yet they would be so -- Laurence Maroney to put up good numbers the jets. Relevant for me I think you earned your money in money time it if you"...

Play from 1:03:18[1:03:18] ..." has our defense been giving opposing QB's an identity right longtime backup AJ Feeley at that point a couple of -- looked like veterans pro bowl caliber player the past two. Aside from the -- exceptions"...

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Play from 1:14:04[1:14:04] ..." just a quick update on that Tomlin said. And he hopes Polamalu marvel Smith in -- practice and potentially -- week while big question Mark I -- always do or cancel that. Nobody he's either going"...

Play from 1:20:29[1:20:29] ..." ultimately can -- about the game plan or anything they've realized Laurence Maroney not bring good. And if they don't have a very good running back would be dumb with these receivers in Tom Brady"...

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Play from 1:26[1:26]" Welcome back hair -- W progress. It's Wednesday. We are coming off one of the most bizarre ending last three minutes of a football game that we needed patriot nation though. We can't wait to talk about it with you. Our loyal listeners here at PFW progress in email address web radio pictures dot com. Web radio pitches dot com phone it was probably 543748280 Paul Tom bred Gary is in the -- were all here. In guys. What what do you think."

Play from 2:02[2:02]" We still look at it you know aren't there is find out this Sunday they expected we would all along off they've been in this game that yet. The the regular season when I've had all along. From day one I I circled this game and it played out exactly how I thought it would -- them I think I shot him up. I don't know. And I think -- just learning how I thought all along they'd win the game but I thought this would be their toughest because of the reason that played out and I thought -- slowed down beat up coming off -- night audience I would -- because it was the -- team and that's that no I read the three game stretch what lesson do whatever it was that I think it's so articles 60 channels that you Canada paper of course they're better than all the Eckstein so the 85 batters the Broncos. But the emotional strain. All these teams you know I heard in the Baltimore waiting for bill Kamal from writer to call -- or they played like this all season they would before date. -- they can make history to the jets can make history by beating the patriots everybody can say there seize that opportunity for everybody. And I think it's it's very hard emotionally for the patriots because they have to be on top of their game every single week that's a really good point that they. All four really overlook the last couple weeks and I was going to -- who was sitting there in the game and you know it was like. The game you know it was only thing happened. Right for the patriots are you say they won by -- thing happen you tested a red that's a threat you just -- on him would be by a lot of -- just -- a lot that I get a call and almost like you know when a pitcher pitches a perfect game I don't want to play within the game. And you know I I don't know but item that we went back to 72 he's. And looked at the games that Miami -- it -- things that ultra battle out there some close games at one point game over of what foreign -- buffalo team I am right right they have a close call -- It's gotta be like you're not going to blow through in in in the oh. And we parties only ask any team to blow everybody else has not yet not plausible though. You know -- I am I'm picking pit the patriots beat Pittsburgh but. I really think that the could have the chance to -- this really I agree not because it's better that that the game or Super Bowl."

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Play from 5:31[5:31]" What was that Garrett who beat the 15 when -- could play. Tampa today -- because like I am I bad -- the vikings that week. Of course that was I think they'll go with all -- that the vikings and and -- the other thing about that when it's a little different as the vikings warrant double in India when the superbowl and they want I'll go on the on the cusp of going into went 1213 14 you know when it lost. There was some of the other teams like Denver was 13 you know with the first team that beat the cult of years back when they -- like -- But Paul if you donated particulate told -- now -- I I thought that -- Baltimore was tailor made for the patriots staff and the -- that told we they were going to played that way. I would have gear I wouldn't give it my house my car anything you wanted that they once I couldn't agree more. Negate the up the got you real live high on the way there we heard a radio talk -- holes they that's what they gonna do it was clean it off his -- is that the Baltimore radio station. If anybody could work we were laughing at the person. McGahee up the middle order say that's how you try to beat the patriots away it at all it all worked why. I don't know they could stop the run well like that they that we should you know say thank you and we should something Richard Seymour who retired two years because I'd he really has not -- yes and a friend. Do we read into the fact that he rotate that he's not help the are not -- April do we read and I think it's not playing well."

Play from 6:56[6:56]" Could be -- that doesn't mean you're wrong I'm and I think that he's not playing well he was healthy look at I would say in and I think that that the larger point about Morris -- on top on that for awhile. I don't look I'm going to put our element that and I and I buy buy all -- I don't just mean at three starters out I'm going to include Jarvis Green and Mike right because all five -- those guys played a lot. The other night and and none of them at the moment right there but none of them had any -- like -- he can't play. -- he's an underpaid back up but he was out on the field and and it was no different and brought in -- he's not paid to stop Willis McGahee when they get into -- play -- well we talk about your paid very well that's that's my point about that exactly because he's a nice little player. Well let the other guys are paid a significant dollars to win games I've thought about it my first game here was actually the Pittsburgh game a couple of years ago and I heard you know how great he wore what when he's not that I released the on TV. That that game how like he is guy that really is phenomenal and he can't be stopped and animal -- in a game like Dessens. You know I think I would say it has to and possibly -- what -- just touched on May be all these knee injuries that he's -- slowing them down at to a three of them now over the last you know two or three years. May -- that -- taken a -- and not just doesn't have any explosion our big guy who has the lower that no talk about that -- batting -- is at Lebanese and getting the power at a level loses a little of that and not the thing that's that that's a good point and he immediately -- Willis McGahee might take away some of his speed. But he can still do a lot of things when your big guy like that if you take away that power that burst it take you from a -- player to just yeah the player. Interesting but when the patriots finally were able to that McGahee in the fourth quarter a -- the main actor. Rodney Rodney Harrison up near the line definitely just put eleven's opened the box and updated -- to Baltimore to beat them and now. Baltimore ran right into it I think that that that the -- play. In my opinion was out of those last three drives the first one after the long punt return. Out of the -- to James Sanders at the goal line terrible terrible terrible throw my board there was. Under thrown by 15 yards and realistically -- all receiver on the field all the -- I've thrown over it was. Until the guy in the end zone coming across the back I would suspect they and it got -- profitable plot there I would say there were four patriots closer than -- received no doubt so I think that that played it to -- you know what I have a chance to beat the undefeated team. I'm going to make it Kyle bullet doesn't cost me that chance I would've been scared of but my quarterback dropped that plate I think that like Tom said. You didn't have to throw on third and ten he could have thrown on first ten or on on you don't like the way -- and three. He Jordon and -- that he's not going to cost you instead of that way it has 15 yards off on first down in my body and a guy that -- this before this happened I agreed at the time. On that third and ten plate down from the 30 yard -- I ran out of from the brawl kicked by the way ticket the field goal then maybe I would just punted in and you don't try to play field position or are. On Florida -- foot on the way they did earlier in the game where that pick -- might not Costa was -- my guess is that was a field position wind condition decision right that they said. If we're going to run we need to yet the first -- you know there is when they couldn't pick they were they we Yankee -- produce and -- Saturday probably had a title right at the oval. But the after that just running into that defensive front of me was cool guys know what you you -- to have that wasn't any in increase in my opinion on the patriot defensive part it was just a matter of body."

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Play from 17:14[17:14]" David -- that the -- at all -- looked nervous on board yeah I. That the Philadelphia game I never thought they were going to lose. A topic about a team isn't out right to the end but I never thought they were gonna lose this game I -- items that they only get stuffed twice on fourth down 3 times and I looked at the officials would drink and if that view of the -- are stupid and all normal again. All right nervous about it doctors are my -- you get in Canada months it was -- 2 AM an afternoon -- guys. He later today -- away from my guys."

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Play from 21:16[21:16]" I just wanted to take on. Are you thought the patriots use -- backs in the game I thought Maroney was. Okay not great has -- talked that. It said that Maroney have a good game against Baltimore would mean something against the jets wouldn't wouldn't leave them much but. I think -- when he catches the ball in the open field like that. Managed to have another gear I don't percent white and a hole like that."

Play from 21:42[21:42]" Yet date he's okay meal like always on what you can hit the open field or he can run with -- as a -- it does with a straight arm. And he runs well it's getting him in the open field that was one run their that I pointed out in the there was like all the people of the with the whole collapse I've seen guys like Barbara stop him and hit the whole -- week at the top kinda stop and wait to get Apple. But if he -- right he doesn't have good vision that's probably don't know that -- be coached because if you get that first line of defense he's okay."

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Play from 24:30[24:30]" 90 blocked well too in the passing game so maybe now excellent motivated -- passing down to give him the ball more. Isn't the only thing I'll say is have they sweep on the team ever like -- history the patriots have they ever going to sweep not not many. Obviously a lot of fans into -- Maroney was draft because a lot of run and could well be out of ram and a lot at Minnesota they win have a lot -- sweeps it he would get to the outside that kinda just -- go. And I'm just wondering why they haven't tried that here I don't golf because one in the pros maybe they try to -- previous book I don't know Minnesota they -- that play alot when they read on this week -- very well well."

Play from 25:06[25:06]" I think that Maroney certainly wasn't great but I think he did earn some more -- I think if the electric you have to give -- well it's the coaches are looking for me not me and is -- if if the coach looking for a -- today. To give him the more opportunities I think they might -- found them in that game. -- did you that he did and Philadelphia to them not as well. Is that I was virtually a thing he had reform more carries because he played the whole game -- I thought he did much better in against."

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