PFW in Progress - 12/7/2007

Fri, 7 Dec 2007

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as we discuss Sunday's game against the Pittsburgh Steelers at Gillette Stadium. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, Tom and newcomer Erik Scalavino as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Listen LIVE Tuesday - Friday at noon (ET) and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 10:40[10:40] ..." with -- got the -- talk about the team. Was that Bill Belichick press conference today all of everybody raises their hand what you and Josh we -- we have anything to learn today from"...

Play from 26:30[26:30] ..." I brought -- very. Then that one on one with Wes Welker yet so we usually very expensive do you mean more than 45 minute we should be usually we should be expecting something"...

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Play from 0:04[0:04]" He's POW -- progress. Football program which you. Brian yeah. W in front -- Could go big man. I think it's. Vertigo says here that by the time average American is yeah. He's got five -- and -- me fouls while you're telling him. What did you think I have any interest. We'll let -- into the golf equipment for yeah yeah. Hamburgers the cornerstone of good. -- cheaper. Yeah -- yeah that spotlight over there. I hit again he's he broke my hotel you. -- seeing -- and chocolate bar -- that cold grey it being mad at me me what does wild. I don't 58 -- good. You just say get you anything I want thank you make me. Yeah milk shake and I want --"

Play from 1:59[1:59]" I brag about them right off the bat a big shout out goes any Ferraro. Any it's today's -- provider. That he hasn't done it wild but that. That's okay once is enough but why is really good -- your great -- did it today we needed any in any of course if you -- in the area. To stop by Tom give you -- but -- That's we've always said we can't imports were not allowed to go please you're allowed to go I don't go anywhere where are not my day around here. Personally you took me through a back room once that I don't even know existed -- you -- watch -- play. Why because they built that out the willow lawyers now. But you definitely the one who gives -- did you nowhere to -- how to get there are no -- I'll take you with us next -- fully equipped to do in the future but like -- in the morning norm at the front desk said you beat you work your way to block. -- go for eight years I would I would that now what is that based on yesterday's performance all but but he also has a question what happened toward defensive line in the last -- board does not look good. But neither does Vince Wilfork Jarvis Green your thoughts. So it's of any question well he was I have to give us that."

Play from 3:16[3:16]" Go Wilfork and played great last game when I would say he's a problem all season -- sport played pretty level. We'll Seymour has come back from BO OP UP listen as Lee regain total I I think and he says it ala. Paul yesterday about the injuries -- start catch up -- It may be slowing down little that I mean it happens you know I remember a guy for the cowboys told people were with the global deepened today and and he got he got an injury to his back -- he was just never to say it -- it -- but obviously sometimes it these injuries that you drop off is. You know noticeable maybe that's what it is the only I will say is the front you know okay associate more Nazi -- more. But we were saying that one of these other guys was on the verge of passing -- so they should be the one demanding the double teams and easing the load on Seymour he's not the same this item. -- was the last piece let me ask you question. Is ready yet wolf for little bit worn down and I have a net that backup to kinda committed take -- like he's the guy is always on the field he's got too many time for the field. You big baby and I haven't -- veteran guy to put in for five to ten snaps -- game might be catch up with a little bit. Could be I mean I hearts you really want that I guy they doubled me. The red you know what I mean he's got quite a battle a lot of traffic -- one that's -- nose tackle is so. But I just let a lot of Warren why isn't he he's demanding double teams that we you know we've talked about oh he's ready to take the next step pro bowler maybe he's better than Seymour. They have these three guys they're a first round picks making millions of dollars -- of the best young line in football if one has a down in the other should look them up. If this isn't a one man -- it's -- a three -- party out there and I think they all deserve the blame for not playing well last week."

Play from 5:03[5:03]" Yeah at the the last week part of his where I really agree with you guys I thought Tom Toms right -- will focus went pretty high level all year. -- I think has been a little quiet although statistically he's right up there -- everybody but I thought well for. Just didn't play well against Baltimore I don't think that's been a problem here. -- certainly when you talked to the players talked to my riddle a couple weeks ago Friday when he told you not I don't know today I today what does that -- today -- He he -- the only guy that consistently double teamed on the Steve Francis Vince willful so clearly he is getting that kind of attention in -- said. That comes with that position to. I don't think the defensive line has been bad I just -- hasn't been anymore and that's that's been noticeable in -- it is specially though in a game like. Like last week when they couldn't stop I'm looking for big things from that front line this day I this game I think they will have a very good performance they've been challenged that's generally the deal when challenged especially. You know it's not like thing Ellis Hobbs has been challenged but he's Ellis -- Richard Seymour Ty Warren invincible or are very good players you challenge them you focus on them. I expect him at --"

Play from 6:09[6:09]" If they don't have a good game you -- which who -- because they don't have to -- gave -- it -- not just -- but you know how we -- we're all kinda like waiting like they -- walk and -- and don't play -- talking about the defensive dropped -- just -- that -- that -- week 15 -- turned things -- I think even -- would -- Our web radio -- back on -- email address on arrival at five point 37482 we welcome everyone to show especially -- who gave -- large thank you really your best will be here it's 2 O'Clock of course it's Friday so much Arafat spoke will be here later. While he will get the -- from Dan. I am I'll look forward to that that it pays attention has in the roof of the master when you met Dan. He meaning turning here for years elders going to be loading who's in the united beat the ravens had a chance of for one all and you adult felt was right so what he would do well even apply qualify yeah I'll take it on the -- all all of them had and -- recently gave it to him about out."

Play from 7:09[7:09]" and everything else that is wrong about our weekly basis I just up by the way Tom as a complete. You know changing of the subject they haven't highlight of the yet the bears Washington game from last night and obvious that both quarterbacks went out Fred I guess when Grossman got hurt. Bryant Gumbel you know -- watched him you know walk off the field and -- well he's he's getting off under his own power pretty well on. Maybe not that serious I mean anybody that looked at it and then watched him in obvious pain coming -- the field he's not go back and it's."

Play from 7:41[7:41]" One of those obvious ones at least an ME LT or may idol. And all that out -- it will though he actually said he always he seems to be walk at all right there's a chance he could come back the the myself. That amputate the leg -- and as -- is up and it's good -- it isn't but it. How would you agree that the two people that get the most buyer of all the announcers in the NFL this year are Gumbel. And two record -- do you write up by deserving of a -- had a bigger problem for double because he's supposed to be a broadcaster right -- organizers -- writer who they threw in -- to drum -- talked a little entertainment all that president credit went on the money like he's -- and -- that I -- like Arnold told the court -- didn't miss the guy who thought -- do the job -- want to -- a play by play -- guy which you know even -- on -- you know was at all trained to do what he's been doing mean sneaky he would he must be given -- now in my opinion and whatnot. Gumbel has got straightforward this when I was trying to do job. I'll play by play he's just not good I think I might throw my -- rate for organizers can do as good if not better and I think keep it to people would laugh you know with my back you up yet. Don't let me just -- that hey you know. They love that. Yes fewer. One of those -- talk about Alexander Gumbel and every city you're going to click on Sports Radio call I."

Play from 9:11[9:11]" Kaiser doesn't care that I -- perfect he does your ball I wouldn't take it very well but court -- is and he's been around for a long time I'm sure he's taken a kind of abuse before. And I think he actually has fun -- it could probably don't talk about on the shelves of time on PTI. In a row ban public art everybody hates yet it I think yet now -- I got a feeling it cuts little -- little."

Play from 9:34[9:34]" Yeah I'd be so arrogant that he probably has even here well you know I like yeah I think if he realized that I agree I arrogant yeah. You have modern and they don't they don't get me -- on I'm ready cerebral for them that's why that the lack the pitching hand while or on on the -- little diversion here into the media did. Tom I think you know you Sal while addressing the fans involved more than taking photos for them with a thumbs up yet press box. What are ego maniac idiot that -- he has yet few of the adults is one guy in the media it was real -- him -- O'Neal don't buy his book don't talk about it yet that book in the heart -- same exact Balkan. -- he was I more famous than. You know nobody -- could -- have been has its that would would have better what was -- the -- push -- that he Ellis would have been better with overrated tight ends -- like to break right. And Mike -- no it isn't -- underrated. Yet Ditka is under rated him incredible I get -- all of it has -- that is that guy in the Hall of Fame I don't sound arrogant arrogant OB. Well -- with -- got the -- talk about the team. Was that Bill Belichick press conference today all of everybody raises their hand what you and Josh we -- we have anything to learn today from what they had I heard it. Yesterday he backed off -- were tired team count -- not only -- he backed off. Somewhat unsolicited he clearly wanted to clarify those Mark remark that had been quoted everywhere all written stories had those remarks in. And Ian -- Apparently got together and decided they needed to admit that but. So he did yesterday today we learned that chuck -- the first one who told him if you're not getting better you're getting worst. And that was scary about the deal as they were pretty good now. Okay by -- learn -- Marmol and we tried to learn some that I tried -- both someone brought Eric Eric Erik -- judgment Daniels about the goal line package that we all hate right nailed ritalin and you know -- like power -- white power. Sort of white power right. Lola out -- in the sometimes to crack hole like I'll package and so -- Daniels. Didn't really have an answer and visited me to answer because we oddity in Vietnam going to do right and and I -- I don't why they do that and to a lot of reasons why we do that. Didn't really answer -- followed up with. Is goal line running short yardage running something -- needs to work on and he said what it is today you know but it still put up that I don't I don't think is that I did and I never and I -- and I said is it. And he filled -- So we get we don't know more about why those -- all those those other people there asking questions to I don't want -- I don't want on the -- Not a homer in good it -- took me a funny is I think he and I don't think he ever said that your questions morning any. You can say he said daddy -- hole -- you know he and I caught up with. Is that why is that something you need to learn not all right RBI argument and bill and I never had it right that you did I ask -- often -- ask I had. I can't -- I. Is that start ended with a question Mark on the that we don't notice that Lawrence Brodie got a game ball for his performance last week which is encouraging. They wouldn't hand this guy game ball if they were unhappy with him they handed it to me to tackle right there. You know -- throughout I've -- disagree with -- I think that maybe they realize that. The way to help them along not to break them down we -- say -- what our stadium that could reach but it either way up the ticket and he gave -- made big plays in the game and you know also he was he was vocal. Point I is that it's going to be interesting going forward. Ian how they use them is like I that would Indies at about the -- lines art as old guys just paste or run block. It if he did it."

Play from 13:42[13:42]" If things in acting and I think that would be reasons why bill might think of him as a game ball the you know a couple of blocks want to particularly ever -- flattened a blister. Adam got the lakes ultimatum really really good block. And on the two on a two -- receptions they weren't like that we talked about yesterday weren't -- aren't designed play now. He went out he he chipped he had a chip block in the backfield he went out. And then the play broke down he made himself available to Brady was Mark play it was instinct kind of play he kind of on -- and I think those kinds of things that bill is that what -- football that's what I'm looking for I think those of -- That maybe don't look that said my a game."

Play from 14:23[14:23]" I don't -- that Israel -- you know what I want to see this week number one Marshawn Lynch played here that first time in heat and have. Great yards per carry what you -- awfully impressed -- all. I don't wrote he's not going to have a 150 yards Steelers but I like the -- top 34 yard you know gain that running back and yet so that's would all be looking for this after we go to the call remind me to tell you some papers about running backs. On the phone right now is Mike in."

Play from 14:47[14:47]" Aaron Mike how are you. I'm -- guys well where Carlo because Portis made an excellent point you PNC after the game."

Play from 14:57[14:57]" Or gorgeous as a job. I'm serious added we still had a job around here Mike has it been on the at all yeah he's not a post."

Play from 15:05[15:05]" I it was some interest in mind it's great. Okay in the -- he's you know he was sick where he won the shall. And you know is on his. -- sounds -- Yeah if you take a look you know pretty flat playing so. And you know patriots in sort of -- in some weight eat crow right now because. The exact same reasons that -- you know you want to."

Play from 15:44[15:44]" Through the that was that there was a lot of talking going -- of -- that it might give somebody had to be -- irrational fans prevalent thing that probably won't have any background -- it was a lot going on the ball would you would you agree that there was a lot of -- and going on down there I wouldn't at this maybe. -- I was would you just -- might though and that Brady does a lot of complaining to the officials out while he. Absolutely anybody that's on the that's gotta speak up -- that he's the leader on that he's going to become what do you say about me me having better mentally I want to self I'll you know -- up -- 82 yeah yeah you can. I had -- deputy attachment to Boston. I haven't welcome gets bud somebody has and I think that -- with what we like Pollard right would want it's -- one of the things about the NFL nowadays every incomplete pass immediately followed by receiver -- quarterback and immediately whining about getting hell I agree are already defeated wins tonight it tires it is you know every time of the guys the ball. And there up while he's on the ground you know also when Brady get touched when he slides when he gets hit after he throws anytime you played ball Brady -- as. -- is David Ortiz that evening in baseball the Red Sox fans will take that the good and the bad it's just a little knowing they get away because they're good Dustin Pedroia does of people make fun of them could do little work but he's not that good. Mike you went out."

Play from 17:07[17:07]" Are you don't want to talk about is. In the past two weeks -- really seen that football game of inches he's that quarterback in all moral is like 20 times. Almost back Willie they'd gotten their second earlier it would have been us back instead of a complete and -- side in the other games it. Defensive backs. Really -- it's almost double fault and it stayed in the second earlier it would have been -- deflected. It is idea -- well."

Play from 17:43[17:43]" The ball to the ball that bowler through for an interception he threw short because he was not a back what he was under heavy pressure. You know he just didn't get enough behind because he was really under pressure so you could call that you know pressure. You know play it was caused by the page is brought in 40 well I I think via the -- in -- comment. Read the whole place on said he I threw it on my back woody -- behind it I I bodies ages. Badly mis read the -- and and -- threw the ball he said he had -- back and you can if you look at the way he was was he was about to get hit. He could play. Mike thanks Myron thanks for the night."

Play from 18:26[18:26]" Right call yeah press doesn't like it -- initiated a rarity for a -- take it shocks up like a floor we ask reported that takes shots. I think you guys to a tremendous job with the calls emails you're the best IQB especially any. Well and he's a multiple ones we were concerned about -- great guy I -- I would locker room. -- and culprit having his way with Randy moss of the domino's -- and if that could call the national. -- the National Guard on a regular -- me. All the race the listeners don't get we can say F you right. Yeah I ask you could open this open was really mocking him go at the F -- okay F bomb at a but coping got up amonte let's look at -- ball. On I've said well because if you are recent weeks the games have been decided it more than a little bit it was a subject epic. -- should let you know what time -- but -- example 147 CEO and a ridiculous poultry on this team it's good it's good this is a very tight knit team. Also learned yesterday speaking of chemistry when he JD Jones Jones bumped into Ryan -- anything they Dario. Apparently -- Jacque Jones nickname is Dario we knew that. We did the that we currently training camp because I don't -- that'll open plate. Along the lines read that you were making a big deal about one guy being called read -- the other -- being called a lot or. Yeah it was you that was going on about that is I think an -- you talk a lot I don't remember. Yeah -- is -- that you would all crowd -- your favorite stuff food. It would mean c'mon because we knew did that they with -- getting to know yet he had a similar type McNeal wasn't read all. It and we found out easy -- called real and you would make it a big joke about oh. I walked by the -- weight room today on my way into the locker room -- a -- out a little flat out and you know the -- and in this country music seems to be another trend that the -- yet you know. It's like in some of that I think that's what happens if you're a guy who just as I'm going to play my music. You know most people don't complain they just go about their business though what you get report guys that they like country but the on the plane -- yeah it's the chemistry -- ridiculous a little while hyper about running -- will he do you P eight out of it it US home -- after he asked me how the family was we got you know got back in touch a little bit. We talked about running backs and I I said McFadden he doesn't thing that threatens anywhere near as good Peter's record. Which is pretty much everyone says that he's also generally opposed to drafting running back he think you can get a guy. And I said I think don't -- the anymore as the best running back on the team and he just got I don't know about the first prize totally viewed -- okay and the but anyway. The Italy the make bad thing I said now is he NFL ready to that that would Moroni there's talk about pass protection all this he can't go on the field as it Cedric -- came from there and everybody talked about with an archaic offense and he wasn't going to be rated interview lead knew nothing about the passing game blah blah blah. And he goes well at this rate. If you draft the guy that high at running back. You don't really drafting him to pass protect look at bother backfield. -- drafted -- the ball I mean to run the ball point 530 times a game B Adrian Peterson and control your offense by running the ball. And I thought that was interesting with all this while -- taken on the -- that's one of my bigger argument if he was Russian point five times -- 50 he'd be on the field right -- draft him to be the next Kevin fall right. That's that like that your stroke. Adrian Peterson is here now gone -- and with. The topic -- I would agree I I don't -- taken running backs yeah because if he is is that when they drafted borrow. They didn't have that type of offense that they have now now you know. Would -- going to pass it every -- spread it out. You have to have fought there like at that point as if he's a 1500 yard back they're going to have on the field rushing that's not a guy like Edgerrin James Joseph the right -- Right so let me ask you to hold on. That is just -- when of this whole thing past 14 years if they don't. Dave Payton to 13 point -- was -- quarters was one point 1 okay picked one. -- right. This coming draft. And they have Heath Evans and Kevin Faulk -- running back -- old no no anymore and we know Corey Dillon's. Right okay. Would they take him a two point 321 era. Right now -- now why. Because they have a different type of offense you and it wouldn't draft a running back. It would have been interest in because there's not that I think that was a group and I told I do it on with it you know. Maybe -- of -- something -- that linebacker whatever they would have gotten a I write at least not the way it is because they don't have a running game that I hate to tell eight you guys all this off now they have the -- they have now because Stallworth is available make up moss. I think if they can run the ball. In -- conventional way they had an offense like -- are -- used as often quite a bit last year you know he's -- unique because -- they used quite volley over the that's when he was hurt so I mean it's just been more productive this year yet they have better players style of a passing game in the attack may have changed like this might -- They may get the ball down field more with the majors on things but the the five wives or -- in the empty back -- that have -- I didn't play knowing when I played here I think with that -- it more often now I don't and I just think it's it's not Daniel -- Heath -- I just put out -- Wes -- and -- three -- right -- 2001 in -- second -- the -- in the -- that they were -- the -- about -- entire 30 -- empty backfield -- Marc -- right now -- That's the only difference president play makers out there now but I agree that would you agree this that. If they had it back the good one for 1500 yards do you think you'd be out there more than early absolutely. I agree with that the point and -- why can't -- a rush of 1500 you don't know what you're gonna get out of -- but he's coming out of the draft now as he was two years ago I think that their interest in him and I -- they take him. Regardless of how productive the offense was without a running game. Hype them in the land of make believe I know it doesn't matter I I I think you know if they were completely honest. They would say he may have been as good as we. I honestly I have to say that at bat capsule -- I would I would. It may be you know maybe the injuries maybe he turns it around I have been making a mitigating fact yes no question I."

Play from 25:13[25:13]" Ready to throw the dirt on Tuesday you know that's it for Laurence Maroney. The only point is -- you I feel like -- coaching staff would say he hasn't quite been as good as we thought it was going to be right. And it could be a lot like the could be a lot of factors. You know more as good as him -- maybe he'll he'll it is what it is the numbers don't come into his own the end of the season maybe it isn't by. Get to that point now where you have to you know K artist or shall be on the point you -- from you know now we have to use. Right web radio pages dot com email address Randy moss was elected as the -- the player of the month. In November 3 month sweep for the patriots are pretty amazing that it talked and he did not look at it always I don't let everybody. And waited talked lock myself when I can't -- yeah well as well for coffee one last thing on the hyper thing. I chuckled again because but I -- opponent as Melvin piper I always -- whenever they give his name is Melvin he's the guy tax naked Logan -- into the locker room now we think he's a superstar. Well when you're tight with -- that puts you know certain social are now it's Eric at practice right now with Randall I don't mean he's -- I brought -- very. Then that one on one with Wes Welker yet so we usually very expensive do you mean more than 45 minute we should be usually we should be expecting something big out of Eric are we in agreement expecting man -- isn't a paper or -- sort of oh well Laurence Maroney -- Redick -- the way Fred has optimist Eric showed a lot of hasn't produced yet. It oh where it brought it when I brought it Kyle you hugged me oh yeah I I didn't have to do the update anymore if that was between me and Eric I ain't ever Albert. He he should play among. Opal now that I had -- he's providing nature that he. Performs well I have no I don't have to update I heard a -- are going to come at times given them opinions idea doesn't really care for them. A democratic -- those 40 doesn't -- it doesn't look over the nobody thinks that you liked that I knew we talked about Rusch although however whatever the Friday things that I like -- for two weeks and stop because he didn't feel like he would beat him like dorm room -- get to put -- on -- way -- no large as the beat of his own drummer. -- doesn't listen does not take -- you know I said about Bryant Gumbel will -- ago. Very much to went to press -- that he hit Friday things he hears the criticism he doesn't video on your right. Maybe I'll start of puppet is a lot of Bryant Gumbel -- an. But I it has there been doing I found out two weeks ago that he got a that was the reason -- dual -- match here. All right Eric -- a -- to get up for the playoffs that the think some good things that you play. I always come I would I always come few ideas but it is to tell me yeah I'll think about. I'd never hear that was the last -- the -- give yeah I do have an idea I any thought I'd give the ideas on you respond to what they have. -- so I'll think about it yet. Well let me let me know let me know I don't know -- which one's the one's -- well I get some ideas he doesn't care for you never take ideas it's your way or the highway that it. You're like Eric and that way you don't want to change anything that your -- I'll use that at least you've done something in your life -- Eric. It's been one of the most enjoyable half I was -- my history on not involved in any. Okay we can we just -- which has won the whole way I don't change anything. You don't change nothing when it came to be out is actually going to say spent too much -- worried about the with the web slightly edited I -- in what might not paying attention or read the paper. Problem with the paper paper no problems the paper bread with the paper paper -- paying attention -- my salary. Right there if he's waiting -- it that it was your way -- no way at all we needed change. So you change that though but I got everyone -- very open minded when I hear a good idea I go right you know. Very open that Rex Grossman it is -- always willing to try and do things that take risk. Because if you those people who don't fail. We'll never see how good they can be and you'd that would make a mistake like with the blog thing that we should had a for the combined. Number would we use that we -- needed and what he got back that we should at the blah -- and we will make it oh that'll be. Now we actually I think the best time to have the blog because in Indian -- that nobody has -- rightly looking at -- yet I like telling Pippen in the -- I like that wondering -- with -- I did like the blog special thing yes Columbine draft you know that's really well many camps and things like that. I think that's really worked you know tell you reasons. Up with a lot for me coming up they've worked grow with -- the way I agree. In the Columbine publicly talked to someone in the image of what we talk with the patriots before we'd have to wait to get back to the rule but it is now we can boom go open their -- all they treat guys check out that would have nonstop. Updates throughout the -- Lombard. The only issue will have the properly. Speaking of them. Coverage in the future. What do you think could this be done on there although in a way to work ethic where two weekends off to get weekends every other Monday."