PFW in Progress - 2/1/2008

Fri, 1 Feb 2008

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Play from 2:10[2:10] ..." When Paul. She's going to sit in my lap and we watched Bill Belichick was his final press conference and that's it. Well -- that was more important we saw the 72 dolphins but as far"...

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Play from 1:21[1:21]" I welcome the PFW progress it is Friday. And you can just tell the electricity the excitement the anticipation is is you know. Building here and that's because crisp I would ever be a better word they might only got his own as opposed to do with -- with violence and crisper Chris Perez coming on the show mrs. Guerrero is over in the corner yes so why. Welcome the PFW progress of the game is all here Paul has shown up -- you know. If you were going to come applause here busy day today a lot of stuff to talk about obviously not all of it is good related to football. But I will get into at all here we just came back from the media center downtown where we listen to Roger Goodell in his state of the union address. When Paul. She's going to sit in my lap and we watched Bill Belichick was his final press conference and that's it. Well -- that was more important we saw the 72 dolphins but as far as. That's that's ours access to the team it's done it's over no more access to the team. Their their -- finished what one time and then with the offseason -- or on our own from now on and oh. Lotta stuff to talk about as instead web radio pitches that comes email address its web radio -- pages dot com. In as an immensely Davidson. Now not since the tragic bus accident -- so how's everyone doing great. Everyone's good yeah I had fun better after once the LA I was fanatic yes yes -- there's this is that based on NFL network and we were yep. We were running on fumes coming back from the early errors in the right handling going to want to. We had with the media center in the first press conference with the late thirties -- these guys left the states which you know I'm not. I'm not -- yelling at us for being too prepared for letting us so early and I'd rather have sure I'd rather have you leave early than like usually heal caught unfortunately. Crowning come get your lazy but it's no one ever bother to call me because you haven't. Week the first press conference Hewitt and and we didn't leave it's you're you'd that I always attend the commissioner's stated the union used to attend telecheck doubts expressed but I can't anyone just to -- I assume you can't and the -- so. Right so what's up guys a lot of topics on a daily might want to bring up. What do I have to bring them by -- 72 dolphins -- first of all the 72 dolphins as the best Prescott we've ever been to yeah that was a virus or Reebok posted a press conference today at the media center and they're making a commercial about perfect bill and of course the only residents of perfect bill at this point are the dolphins population one so it's it's I don't -- it nicely and the funny commercial. We didn't actually see the commercial we saw some of the behind the scenes maybe -- it's not done because nobody had a shot -- Monday so they've already shot the and there's two Wendy's. We won't see the commercial have a pre commercial. Before the game but the actual commercial right you'll see the commercial after the game in the ending that you will -- will depend on of course the outcome of the game."

Play from 4:32[4:32]" Which -- to go to -- website yes the first Monday he'll probably partially right so so they had -- more Mercury Morris they had to kick. Gary a premium in Leonard little Larry let it no matter -- the rams right. Larry little minute -- so the four of them were there and of course Murton more stolen the thing was it it was -- it was like it was on our show yeah it was kinda subdued. And then Felger all people asked the question. And Eddie got off they really are ten joke but he started going that it was. That it was the Mercury Morris -- idea the end from there on although mom Jim picked gut it worked up to and started kind of compete with -- thrown out bomb -- left and right up front about Brady and a skirt -- the two teams -- play what rules we're going to use is going to be Brady in a skirt or no skirt and but my Randy Moss insult them all down the field which could back then. Yeah he did he make fun of Mercury Morris but then. He get every bit as much work. That's okay but but Mercury's one yeah he has very taking advantage of that the situation the time normal guys that they probably owe him a thank you because he's making them on here. I thought I think the improper and -- terrorist thing. They're not in my block yet let me know when their next door moving their stuff to be honest he seems like a fairly intelligent individual -- by the a lot of us that like -- he's -- if they're right I think you're -- Jackson was in. We are very well spoke us yet you know he's he's always saying he's like that Don king hype machine wrestle or whatever got to get the Mike it just goes off you want to hear weakness -- And doesn't always make sense and doesn't -- get together properly."

Play from 6:09[6:09]" It's funny because they were all sitting in chairs in the you know alternating its request but at one point Mercury Morris had had enough yeah. And just starts going off the show yeah. So that that was that was -- a lot of fun but then earlier today the news broke that senator Arlen specter. Of New York Republican from Pennsylvania mental public if you look at what is really pertinent to the story that it Pennsylvania well he's a big eagles me yes he's a huge eagles me today and then another. Right but anyway he is now he wants -- to appear before. But this committee and committee to talk about why this spy gate tapes were destroyed six tapes Wheeler and you know I really am glad about that because it's -- good use of our tax dollars. I'm really glad that United States senator Seymour are are spending their time worrying about. You know defense is you know -- people making defense the singles nothing could please me more to know that our United States of America are working. To make sure that no defensive signals -- Caught in in eight and that these dates remain in existence what a cover up this is this is terrible in. We should all congratulate -- spell -- if I'm wrong -- five months ago -- did but it was Arlen specter -- you wouldn't get as much publicity hopefully it is you know because this is all about grandstanding this is all about show boating. This is all about you know you know I I had enough -- always speak about it if it."

Play from 7:48[7:48]" But I know I'm tired of what about how about a -- senator a bad name well when I'm about to do what color -- the stuff with congress in sports now I don't have that tax dollars or whatever not everything that. They are interested in in all the stuff that is putting my tax dollars whenever I don't get this. He's black males of its antitrust exemption that the sports you know the league have that they hold over the league's all the way. Take away if you if that's what you want to take away this whole thing I'm going to threaten to take away your exemption if you don't cooperate on steroids and now if you don't come in in explain to me patiently YE destroyed these tapes and where's all this evidence and this black males stuff that goes on. With congress I I couldn't agree with I I'm not move to the point right here speak like Brett but in I I don't think it's as any place in Pollock."

Play from 8:38[8:38]" I'd like it better if you know John Kerry came out and said you know. We're going to take out the exemption -- that until you tell the rest to start call holding on Randy Moss -- goes up for -- court that's more important to me. But at that point it out road you want to travel there was another little interesting aspect has brought up by a reporter in question of -- and by the -- this issue was. The only issue that had what. Eight questions asked that of -- other than that it was moving around for much different issues this was the the largest issue of his state of the union address in the NFL address. And a woman from Philadelphia said its interest in Comcast is one of the largest contributors to Specter's campaign. And Comcast is thirty and he. Battle of the NFL over NFL network so the medals will be some political games being which which. Even infuriates me more well it's like it's one guy being dirty to to go down a road or some other guy I was there everybody -- dirty -- cheat and get their hands and everybody else's pocket it's like the."

Play from 9:36[9:36]" This isn't like the saints -- the you know illegal performance enhancing drugs issue where it's one thing this week. Problem by the league issue -- does it. -- incidents that you can keep myself in more used to I have that much. And I can't speak to. You know stuffed -- BI I put it in his banks wouldn't have to you know I and I asked him around him one mean carried the wages to bring up I'm sorry irritates the country's move not even -- listens to expect. -- stuff but -- read the New York Times are."

Play from 10:17[10:17]" Article -- your interest in the big part of your story is kind of being glossed over you that goal because you're by. I just -- it's the Matt Walsh angle and he was a former employee of the -- the same article in the New York Times article that named Matt Walsh who worked in the video department handles -- who moved to new stuff -- stuff and he's he's saying in the season there's a long quotes in the air and saying you know stuff. But he wants legal and financial protection if you were to say what he knows he said that there is. Things he knows that people haven't taken responsibility for yet. But I guess he signed a confidentiality agreement with the team and therefore assume he would be sued by the team in the league and lord only knows who. And people in the league claiming that you can't have these confidentiality agreement -- would -- to at least make individual rights and we all know -- that's -- in -- as well it gets into legal battle you know those waivers you sign that every lawyer says that it will open court like designs that's -- he wants but he can't afford to fight right it has treated like that was like it was an -- Like did time space and you put out an ad for this guy. Hey if you wanna come and you'd be protection legally and financially all -- you guys Horry he wants to single somebody's going to pay for him to say yeah. That's the bottom out I'll tell you question is what is what is the worse thing about I'll tell -- I don't think."

Play from 11:37[11:37]" Jets really realized the kicking the can of worms that they were opening up I think if they did. They would have never gone public with that day that's all separate issue with -- who went public this is while I know I know rent went public maybe joined now by what it now because this is bad for all the yet despite the skull thuggery. Goes on throughout the lead. In you know very. Like that one I did it's probably -- every moment you know and it's not just football it's still baseball and it's all sports and you know it and it's it's internal it's stuff it's stuff that. Really shouldn't be out there even Mercury Morris in the dolphins joked about it yeah they were asked about it they said. Shula a decent was smart enough not get caught and if you did get caught he -- blamed it on an assistant assistant went out and Oakland anytime a plane overhead that's funny you know Shula say don't don't crown -- still around you know in lineup. You know I don't know how far this thing's gonna go you know I don't know if this is just but it's a New York Times news story right so what -- and I ago I know. But got back got a dig up the whole thing with the prospect I don't know if this is a couple days news cycle story -- we don't hear about it again whatever. Goodell hasn't but it is phone call with specter in. You know he relevant I don't yeah -- Matt Walsh is always old or on the wrong part of the story. This the first -- a former patriot employees Kamal and that I may know something bright to me that's the story who is Arnold's background that he's just trying to play the politician game get a space out there do Comcast -- whatever now maybe he's -- Mets misses just you know and make himself a little bit more -- and he -- he doesn't really know. You know all that much easier than I would put himself -- I -- at times specter has nothing to do with what he's been sought out. Yeah -- but he's very easily cassette I don't know -- I don't know what you're talking about just leave me alone he didn't say that he I don't know stuff that you protect you know how I don't know what's going through his head. What his motives are with a west we have no idea -- an ex employee and we don't we have no idea what's going on with him. But I don't know the situation you know. Looking to make some money you know we don't know what I have no -- mean he's known why that can't be that the guys that sports and golf that is the story that -- that's the story and no -- asked about it with congress'. That's all grandstand at all all TV you always showed on the man and wanted to -- the last questions from Philadelphia writer won the last ones on the spy -- situation with Goodell was. You know point blank you know aspect there was very. Critical of the patriots eagles Super Bowl and wondering if this had anything to do with that connected in any kind of competitive and so that's what -- right. But this is this has not failed very Goodell is guarding on the record we learn some facts today they were six tapes. There were notes the tapes included two from the 2006 season in pre season 2007. There were other notes that may have gone back further that they couldn't. Definitively decide whether they were taken from videotaping doing something illegal god forbid they asked."

Play from 14:47[14:47]" Well you know you don't think well then why don't they don't definitively who lead the league. They did they ask why I don't know anything else comes from blue they asked that question wasn't seeded answer. The -- don't know not to tell. Don't you must know like -- where -- nowhere to Brussels contributed Goodell saying I can't prove -- he can tell me an answer but I can't -- my guess is he wasn't satisfied -- finally -- it is my god this is a scandal for these things -- but I think they -- it well -- the that he avoided that question was -- to specific -- avoid a -- directly why the -- destroyed -- but someone said weren't you were -- it would appear like a cover up and unfortunately they buried in a three part question any -- got -- three. While you know what."

Play from 15:32[15:32]" The perception is. It's going to -- you can't help that. You don't do something that you think is the right thing because reports what you think perception might be you do it because it's the right thing I just I hide out at the right thing to do. We have an affidavit from the patriots that these are all the papers that there are no other its existing. We know what's on the paid -- in. He is that even people the public knows now because some of them leaked out. That's the story so we were unhappy so we felt if we destroyed the tapes than there are no weather and he's as well in -- some show up in existence than the patriots violated."

Play from 16:06[16:06]" You know -- in front let me -- six -- is something that details that I believe that -- that it deals for a ball. That's correct that 7750000 dollars a first round -- Wasn't because of what was on the tapes get it through your head with because they blatantly. Thumb their nose -- the rule that that's why didn't know hundred of them -- joked I'm never contradicted himself. That's not a library you could even though and -- doing different things Tom and one he said that he didn't feel that what was on the tapes meant that much as far as competitive advantage that's not why they were penalized so hard. -- because they blatantly thumbed their nose at the rule and that's why they were penalty and I'm not -- cutting what was on the contradictory two different things -- Buick. But you the heck of a penalty just -- but that's contradictory mines in one hand it's not that big deal and nothing can you not related to wait a minute wait and not let him at all all. You know I was president and Indianapolis -- on -- and you're not listening to me. I listen to everything what was on the tape was in the big deal as far as doesn't that's what he's as far as a competitive advantage -- let's deal. As far as how they did it and how they broke I heard all of that -- just -- the first time you said it and I think those two things are contradictory. And it economic -- and now it's it's it's the it's the blatant violation coming after them you know supposedly memo was received they still did it. That's why they were penalized so -- you're saying that the act. Is more important in exactly exactly. And I do not exactly and I'm saying I understand all of that because I'm not a moron in the first grade I think that's a Contra -- and worries that's that's what you think is look at the figures."

Play from 17:51[17:51]" If if they were filming guys you know fixing their helmets okay. Big deal but they weren't supposed to be filming the other team's sideline it doesn't matter what they were filming and that's a big deal. That's exactly -- say it doesn't matter what was on the -- it was what they were doing. What was on the they gave them very little -- competitive advantage according to get -- it's what they were doing. Not what they were doing with that. Now what was on the vagaries of what we're doing that was why because they were doing it because we wanted to reach -- Competitive balance. Of the -- you can look up the quote yourself -- weeks right because. Because -- can be right ultimately you still don't get -- mindset there because all because that the patriots Q and a the patriots might be doing that in in May be what they were doing. With the video or video taping a sideline may not that big deal but the next team could be doing something else with the same explained and that would be worse."

Play from 18:52[18:52]" Going to me now. If it's not. And it and it's not I never said that and I didn't that you did but he did -- words he never said it was -- unbelievable I -- it all the -- that separate questions that -- Afterwards and had minimal impact -- guys that and that's not. Nothing but at the same time when asked why he came down so hard that he needed to maintain that competitive that's correct I didn't think based on its first answer I didn't think it was he felt that it was because it was because he doesn't come down hard on the paid -- was no saints to their success as if he dazzled me -- that close and no -- that's true I think those -- my country well. The other two as well it was definitely no taint to the success because their belief it is all the Super Bowls were won before. They cheated on based on the tapes and after they cheated based on turning in the I span there where they were good and they admitted they cheated there and never neverland and in this --"

Play from 19:47[19:47]" This is the other thing that bothers me about this every once say the pitchers got caught. Videotaping the patriots were right on the sideline in plain view there was nothing about getting -- They were trying to get away with anything they were in plain view doing it there was nothing perspective about what they were doing they were doing at the it would you know you might say they want to get caught. That's fair that they were they were not hiding this in any way."

Play from 20:16[20:16]" Whatsoever relevance why -- 5 what does it mean if I want to break the rules on just to run on the Oprah actually I'm going to be another tall ball another reason why he came council Harden. Why state and why did -- say that why didn't want to maintain a competitive balance because why is because because because if I just call a while that's that's that's a fairly fair response from the commission also but blatant disregard my authority thats like you know your options right after you don't hit you don't try to make it personal. You don't try to make about birds you don't try to make it is out exactly -- personally don't try to Michael well I was upset because they've they've but he's not upset personally upset in the role as the commissioner ours are pretty okay but here it is. You know is the if they don't come down hard in the patriots for such a blatant violation. What does it say I'll -- what what message does this other guys that I I was somewhat critical back five months ago when this came out. And I thought that the the punishment was pretty severe and I thought that. They must analyze him have based on what he said today I think it was -- five months ago. Now today I would sit on the front page I'd say this is ridiculous punishment -- it much much 2 I agree with that's. Because soccer. Based on what what commissioner Goodell told us today. This was not this was a pebble and in 'cause it was fine and and I think it's utterly ridiculous that it came -- let if it if it in fact. Had such little impact on hand because it had nothing to do with what was on the eight Paul and I think it's comical to destroy that would rat."

Play from 21:56[21:56]" I figured out and that is probable and they like they have to eight they had the ball well paid right he don't like -- on those things out some of the coaches were waving at the camera because that you're being taped that this story he's selling is that there was nothing of any importance on the play but. You know going to go along your lines if you think it's ridiculous that he. You know it's the only reason he destroyed the it then is because there was something and the on them it's a big cover. You know now that's what you're saying -- I'm not understand why else isn't it about I told you why Pickett and Davis destroyed the tape on it more hours in -- that -- Advantage and I'm like why not scoring one they had already leaked out of their incompetent they had a really doubt they wanted to get rid of these -- I know but they had or the other -- going to wait it."

Play from 22:46[22:46]" You've got you've got two things and play here you've got the plate you got the -- in my in your position and get -- I've got the sixteenth that are in my possession then get an affidavit by the patriots stayed there is nothing else that exists I don't have an event that happened where that takes them already leaked -- All right couldn't get rid of these things because then if I know anything else is out there it's not from --"

Play from 23:08[23:08]" But you know what you have your off it yet -- we epic only impressionable like thousands right out of Paul talk about it but we lived through it. So you'll you'll that's a piece of -- From the at what the big damage is that he's the -- out there. -- my I have been sick and I another one out that different from the six I don't. Carty and I went out but now you know that the patriots a line of course and I would know if that there's only six in existence now sort of like when it's different. And this is a big puzzled that he's missed right. And the guy claiming he has the piece is in the New York Times that's that's the bottom line -- missiles or. When is that guy claiming he knows what does this right now and that it's troubling to me you know as a as a patriots and what is this guy right. I have I don't know -- trying to do what trying to gain. I haven't been online much with the fans talk concerning but I as far as the government who cares right but now back at one employee comes now our other right you know like. How how far is run. Now the latter welcomes your that's right -- well that's been a lot of employees of the patriots though you would imagine that there's somebody else out there right but I have yet you aren't as -- and oh yeah. This does not look. Can we're not talk about breaking into the democratic why aren't talking to a wide berth that multi billion dollar in. Regime that national convention but we have to destroy evidence I just explain to why they did we don't go -- but we all know it's W but don't we -- I don't like talking about like Vick I would ecology got a degree -- out of morons about believe in this story that you -- dollar private double well what you guys are arguing about. It's not just football it's his -- billions of dollars on the somebody in your office. Already leaked that who -- with fox. You know get rid of them. -- hearing company can't that I play in the IP he can't control your staff and whoever that idea what does that change coming the best way to make sure that doesn't happen again it's just get rid of that's sort of -- flawed and I have a piece of paper that says that does nothing else out there. Now there's nothing -- I stay out just football I'll get softly down on the Michael -- They write like that was that was because on the Mike and it and it totally destroy all the files so right now you talking about government. Documents that it was illegal to do that it's a little longer than any files of the NFL head they just. -- about because they don't wanna you can't let those are those of -- that."