PFW in Progress - 2/12/2008

Tue, 12 Feb 2008

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as we head full steam into the offseason. We'll discuss free agency, the draft, and which positions the Patriots will need to address this offseason. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, Tom and newcomer Erik Scalavino as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Listen LIVE Tuesday's and Thursday's from 12-2 p.m. and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 3:33[3:33]" LEI like that about -- There's two uniforms that must do for me for college of Virginia Tech in southern miss when a bright he had -- at the player who want to those uniforms I think they're great I. I like lot of common now what it was like. I think he's it would every -- little weak dollar ended three years Stella has been hasn't gone well for him and he was out of football you know right but if you accurate it is personal life I'm pretty sure albeit. One of those things that are newspaper hobbled to a little getting to know getting ahead and get on the -- TJ slaughter of course if he's still here Patrick. And obviously not a guy who it probably five starting job like that. But you know one of those like that -- department in December. -- work out and he's a model in the middle linebacker or model and a Middle East al at a more success as a model these little or -- printing this photo others who looks like oops. What is with these models like football players that look like -- we keep -- it was -- and -- very he's got the same look is Dante Wesley. The the weird guys in. The -- And -- It be any worse that while they that secondary right now. I think it is for somebody you know -- for Craig. We have -- offseason mode and -- gets -- about the probable on an ankle late in the lumber -- another field this week patriot he and -- the only team being booed upon introduction the pro bowl that no aspect the tide has turned hate has taken over the pro ball that would be Mike Vrabel you'll open in light. And well we all boat pre game. And I guess Osi Umenyiora got a huge ovation -- actually only been told that they all root for the giants. Which make you know the players. -- like the patriots team and how bad does that make you look at and you root for the underdog. What was your other play in -- root for the doesn't that you look better if if the team goes undefeated is an -- can say well we all lost that if one team beat them that seem -- League want to be it and certainly I help with the coaches at all. But the well now the Samuel had a hit. I thought that. I hit it up watching a lot of them up on TV more. I was kind of watching but I remember anything -- Peterson and polka style yet a couple touchdowns at the MVP to bite the open campaign. Bite Terrell during the legal at that -- that tied it was the MVP at the time that he that -- deal was but that. Adrian Peterson. Mine Beattie was that Darnell -- the tackle for a -- at Indy for a cardinals but what can block them that I realized -- cope with the little. -- yet to be that that -- quickly army unit and all -- bad line ask VFW's I mean we are now getting to they need to go in heavy into the draft turn over the offensive line. I mean it's ridiculous. Are in trouble I just he has peaking at turning quickly and rent a month ago -- my -- it. Mike Boise State -- tackle likely be that that the -- and has -- is that that technical wrapped right doubt Eric waited out of that credit outlook that draft. Where's -- going to play. -- that probably right -- lower they get a bit it -- First -- got a catcher with the -- league after him -- You know my start off right then -- left. Does that mean you don't have much confidence in -- if -- catchers is that bad. And -- in writing my ears I mean. Vocally at the guy he's a guy in my point is we just look at the draft pretty good this morning. There's no -- distresses or started that rule where that this was the -- I. All that you urged him -- like I say all. So what wrote it about the Oklahoma State tight and and he needed colony he was appease all the linebackers that Kamal. -- quarter and pretty deep on the line off that that the Fed the lines of running that running back. But linebackers those that -- linebackers now that. While Luke there it is which call Cushing -- well I mean that you're going to fight and yet he does not mind."

Play from 8:43[8:43]" I think deep is -- way of -- not good sometimes. They thought deep you know white -- because if you can't decide who's good -- say -- the I think that's one of those and I am going oh my rankings now we're right and I go to like different piper I go to so the FL draft out and I look at their top ten rankings and and try to put my own -- average of and they're all over this -- one hasn't who -- has an eight and that tells me. There's no clear divide in town there and usually if it. It -- guys that Billick Glenn Dorsey and Cedric Ellis are clearly the top -- but."

Play from 9:16[9:16]" There's a lot positions where like corner receiver all over the place in terms of rankings so. -- you see that more of the middle like. Like running back right like some people may like like a Mike -- did some people like you see that more the fourth fifth round guys we usually do that the first couple rounds. You get -- pretty clear idea who's who's setting themselves apart. And I just that we turned out -- FL network and Brandon flowers the quarterback from Virginia Tech was or eleventh best prospects. I just also pretty reputable like adamant the great that's court it's all that's the kinda divide that. The he'll point out to -- you know mentally not good. You YE a guy fifty that everything -- thirty in whatever. I think is that -- happy that tells you. That's really not draft because. -- backing it doesn't matter right. Twentieth 48 a guy usually -- like you'll pay 2002 top to bottom one to 53 they got a deep roster. Well now maybe they're not -- but they -- have nine pro bowl -- guys like Randy Moss and number you break records. So I think it's -- patriots go on the line. Let's they by the quarter that they really I still think that corner would be ideal target if they can fall in love with a guy that's worth the seven pick. Otherwise everyone's got that guy from Troy is their top order right. I'm sorry he's got. Okay sock from Arizona has fifteen interceptions this guy's got like six in the same time frame if you're at Troy you do to be a market where he to have 43 tackles for losses. Eighteen sex that's what I want to see Troy and you are seeing they -- him as a great return man I don't ideal. Yeah Detroit. No offense but -- I I want to great return man who played against great athlete like. Miami yet there's you know whatever that you -- USC this guy play on a level where he might just been the best athlete on the field and he's not really that great of return me. It -- once they like you when your with Detroit or where what Detroit or any yep well now we're just talking about if this guy ends up beat the number one quarter is he worked the seventh pick in the draft. That's that's a tough one what did you -- out of him in the like the senior it was he was injured he would play out in the senior bowl. But normally there like those one or two quarters and everybody's all right well what do we haven't got to that point yet maybe that'll. Maybe that'll happen and a it is seventh pick up this year and everything we talked about earlier the fact that everybody that's in the top seven whatever it is is and as good as the version last year. Whether it's McFadden not Peterson whether it's ever wrong isn't all the prospects are not who they were last year is your -- Jerry Jones still infatuated with McFadden what he does. Heated put. But I you know and who heard it -- chris' people but I was. They you know last week or outdoors but they had some words that I think the cowboys make a strong push for him. In our web master Chris that he had a radio sporting them on the NFL radio and quote that Syria and the -- because they desperately. Eat the defensive back it was Anthony Henry E he has started and is thirty teams line up now the eagles the -- sorority rumored to be heavily. Interested -- Samuel saying he's big huge blockbuster contract that would looking for pitcher give -- out home walk and plus I think the way you look at at the NFL rate now. Anderson AM if you're the cowboys eagles. We got the moment we got shepherd. If we bring in Samuel now we have two very good quarters. Then we moved in next guy out of the third quarter that you have three -- because you need three quarters to played -- teams like the patriots colts. And you know I don't the giants don't have great quarters but. They have a pretty good -- but the line a lot of teams don't have the luxury of avid reader for pass rusher like the giants do which region guy's gonna have to cover -- going to be tough. Tough deal for the patriots beat him yeah. So what they do. I mean -- I don't -- number -- if you lose it but still -- you have to what we have -- true true Bob's not go where's the raiders."

Play from 13:30[13:30]" National right at a -- franchise -- what do you do. I don't know. -- talked about earlier this regular turn on an -- he said this week in Hawaii you know he's kind of left the door open or return all the right things he said you know it depends on how I feel that they may be -- give them a hometown discount or whatever but given any hope out I think -- I don't have a -- to -- as long as there's. Ninety million dollars or whatever is on the -- hometown discount is not going to be what you when I'm on -- is -- going to take you know. Maybe get a hundred million out I'll take Maggie from the eight right -- what -- going to be a blockbuster but I do -- right out of I think you know you can serve as a growing media but you want returns and he loves it here. He's not bring it -- That I think is where some idea. The problems came up with them the other high profile case like Deion Branch and Ty Law passed some of those other guys not much with the but outrageous stuff that got in trouble now. There's no doubt that is not him he'll want a lot of money but he's not talking about feeding him he's not talking about wondering where next meal was coming from. We all understand major dollars it would about. Oh I think he's doing it the right way and in his first desire to return to the patriots that they got the best way. And curry with people you unit in southeast negotiating in the prep up like that in. That about people often and you. How much you think that that has anything to do with how we played in that last drive in the Super Bowl -- remembered I think you even sent it to us afterwards that you know his first comment. In the post game. Of the Super Bowl as you know I'm going to be the quarter -- I think I am I need to make that catch them as he put it all himself you know if he makes that catch and they win they don't ninety Nadal. It's even talking like that. You know about about maybe coming back here like sort of sorely lacking now -- like dusty if -- expect catch stated he is gone and -- is no I -- you match well priced aqueduct. I think his price tag very high now I agree that would have been another million or whatever on top but. I -- in other ways that separates him that's him not me I catch opened the door more for him to return now in that he feels like he might have something they know advocates like but I think it does because I I think that if he would made that play acting. There's no chance that someone would have said we gotta have that you know a Jerry Jones -- Who is going to go on -- out and give that I would take again. Not signal plus heat he would've gotten that. Other brand and it may happen anyway it happened but but maybe maybe in his mind he's kind of thinking you know hey I would've I would've had that -- I would have been also would have you know cemented my legacy with -- not with this franchise. And it would have been maybe a little bit more willing to just jump ship right away maybe now is kind of thinking you know they're the pieces are kind of in place here maybe that they'll run I don't know maybe maybe that's what is that maybe but I. I still think -- bottom line and I should be I think -- right I think his leg is our right. His grandkids want to know about his legacy or the hundred million they got in the bank. I don't fault any player bottom line I mean yes as you at all that the difference of 87000001 place in 83 and other okay but if it. Ninety million versus sixty million I'm sorry that acne that -- that most people with good -- on -- like pretty. You know great -- a hundred dollar contract offer realized that we took sixty would. That hometown and I'll think that old and I think it's a little different. Situation with a Brady and quarterback because you are the face of the franchise one. You're also with bill bell checked the key to winning -- just -- handle mightily now. Yet -- they say -- comes back here to meet not the difference in winning and losing and he goes somewhere else out there in winning. A lot I really think he looks out just for money for an original act -- real clear Ilia PFW progress has turned the page on people lost trying to. Pick up the pieces and move on talking about the job he's talking about the draft we have no lunch the Columbine up comic -- excited about that Indy. Lot of pressure. Phenomena be stuck with -- pressure Aaron he's going to go. While there's there's talk that it is it's what certain things happen I might have liked it that makes me feel less guilty -- How all the Xena considered our idea I think I I just doesn't even need to think about to find out about this last night -- and I guess and it's at now with no no blacks and I talked about it with that the which if which all it would be not -- you I don't."

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Play from 20:41[20:41]" My issue though I love the -- I love the whole aspect of drafting that they edit the thing that irks me about the -- is that every year. Draft pond in and and people who follow the Columbine. Fall into that trap -- saying -- I had a -- he had -- will work -- stock -- and -- in the NFL and that's -- it's -- teams -- teams -- well I -- widely -- every -- because -- guy that -- 4540 and you -- holy -- and he -- him. I can make up something -- hits -- of these teams look at. Yes college film of course why don't they -- and on the college from the none that I today's do it anyway just there are more players that have panned out as a result of their production in college and have busted out as that brought it -- result of being. A workout warrior but their ego involved I can take this guy."

Play from 21:43[21:43]" And with his durability counts immeasurable he can be star for me. Yeah that's the other thing too easy to ET Amazon -- to talk to them. You know they kinda gave -- assessment and you'll start here in the names that are you know that's. Really the draft process right now hours kind of an overview put it doesn't covenant to focus of the return from the come by right because and you know with eagles buzz names down there. All these guys that are on the -- might be slide and now they'll be a guy we were our neighbor heard."

Play from 22:13[22:13]" Of that I'll be like familiar with just beat like I whimper of these random offensive lineman who were stars at the Columbine and everybody starts raving about. Physically ranked lady on the rating are ready I hope you -- OP and the list of disappointment. We get there a couple of ways to join our -- there where Brady patriots back job easier email that went radio if -- job. We kept our line we also got it was a Collins John and LA has done job to keep you waiting so long but we just --"

Play from 22:47[22:47]" And I ask god I don't want to. Got a little can which -- Tuesday what's that later -- it and because occupied anything to watch. It's basically ending like are okay that's good you get -- that's quite hear anyway. So here again and again -- and lunch. And it doesn't go up to get a job and -- it for me get married. Oh congratulations I think we do. I don't listen congratulations that's our local. I'll -- I don't want to turn patriots that the great -- Sunday it was on my -- and that would in New York and let JFK the war. Yeah that would suck a friend at. But I just want to say appreciate only guys sit out there it was often which ended up in an uncle Robert has got a job all over the Super Bowl it was. Anyway I'm wondering what -- in terms -- linebacker -- left -- some idea of Greg -- And bringing in one more than what they like Karlos Dansby he took and yet they're little they're going to."

Play from 23:56[23:56]" Right franchise him a bye that was just tell -- upstairs their job if you look at that Arizona team to be. I don't we say that's a lot about -- older they're kind of like the -- of alliance -- every year but I think with that new coach -- they have -- now I think they really are close to competing Natalie for a playoff spot but to do damage because of my opinion the annals. About done with their window of opportunity. So I would do that right could decide Beardsley -- there like that that. The tenor of the another -- while Ellis is that a free agent now that's that I don't for a fact he wants out he's the one out of Dallas for awhile I just that he sees the writing on the wall. In easily got like two years left especially with -- injury problems if he really wants the rinks all. I think he's going to want to trade out of there and that might be something that on draft data the patriots might look might look into as a guy who could not only play outside linebacker was -- the pro bowl wide open all spotted the bad. -- a lot of versatility."

Play from 24:55[24:55]" You also have Bobby carpenter of the cowboys are shopping you have on like mid round pick staff for -- I would typically give that up to get him I think he's -- guy play inside or out here I still. I mean based on what we saw from the college I still think he can play in the system even -- he's done. Basically zeroed in and that's -- the job worth Belichick and pioli liked him common now right. And they that this is a top field -- that we would draft the first two rounds. In any goals of result that doesn't work out they may -- it and bring -- their system with they like him now they've they've -- they -- and you -- little you can overpay in a trade theoretically I mean most people might promote our day all the guys -- he's a six -- that but if you think he's the fit your system -- higher than anywhere else is willing to go you don't you know on the hook for bonus money -- rookie deals though. There's not that much risk there. There was an itemized on the list that that we discuss the open names that he was a good college player and I haven't heard much from since even though but Teddy Lehman yeah. Detroit middle linebacker and I ran him I would keep an -- on Adam Seward who was at college 34 -- linebacker. You start to get some of those guys come through that we looked as dropped draft prospects. We're now you know haven't done much or or or low level free agents who it ought to be rough but it's right well you know. If they if they if they fit the system the first I don't I -- that the -- baker not. Yeah it -- played -- 34 at that time out there and Stewart was higher prospect and that's sort of how they stumbled upon -- and thought he might be a bit here is that they. People were scouting -- and so cleric can do but I think those -- the type -- guys you have to look for you know they have that -- tying three or four guys and hope to get lucky with. One or two of them another thing name that's out there is the and Morgan. If he's the guy that has anything left health wise -- I don't know he's just a concussion and injured machine now but you know Tom talks about those veteran guys he's a guy that. Early in his career you know first round pick was an up and coming young linebacker all the injuries hit it if you could get him to play even rotational role here. Maybe he's a guy they they look into terms of his medical background I mean he's -- all of that history with a -- the yeah but that's one of those things will be evident on the bring him -- They need to get some young guys and then they they need because of young guys linebacker. Because at some point you can that are out of 38 year old linebackers to bring it -- is. It's obvious Eric Alexander in probably Peter woods' old guy like in the last game yeah it is they don't do much for the fighters on the season's on the line. But they need -- some young guys in here and that means the draft they got to draft a couple guys whether the third fourth fifth route just to bring it and and that's something that I haven't really done much of this draft linebackers the pistons built built out of so wildly."

Play from 27:46[27:46]" Right it all right well thanks for lunch. And again if you want to like well like John did -- and much more importantly 5 wait five -- read him Horry to all the people that are lined up. Before -- ball every you know bowl week when we had run everybody was like you know after the Super Bowl catch up with the -- we don't you have once this week now they'll disappear very good record should I blame the year awards. Covered that but only when it we have one -- I don't. And beat the movement among a clock. The clock -- emails about really need to look at that last drive whatever. Jordan one when the giants got the first out with a short might scary. Stop the clock in the -- right to do -- however. Correct because -- does have it in with -- distraction. To stop the clock Emeka determination whether or not the first now he he does not have to bring the -- from the line that -- He didn't do that I'm not the clock I've Baltic ruled that it was first down and in the -- started up again but in the meantime the clock and -- in the eighty. And he had to re -- but we've won one but that is there any argument that maybe he's just. He maybe he should have just brought the scenes out just to be safe now it has yet yet the first one acts I and I hadn't seen the replay you know thing that TV watch it."

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