PFW in Progress - 2/14/2008

Thu, 14 Feb 2008

It's an offseason extravaganza in this edition of PFW in Progress. We'll discuss the upcoming NFL scouting combine, impending free agency, and touch on the recent meeting of NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell with Senator Arlen Specter about spygate. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, Tom and newcomer Erik Scalavino as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Listen LIVE Tuesday's and Thursday's from 12-2 p.m. and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 3:40[3:40]" Sisco back to Wednesday's announcement for much mad -- yeah average on Thursday and arch -- crew. What's going on is Arlen specter Roger Taylor spinning out of control as the -- In the new Taylor retirement talk has the NFL's good fortune ever reached -- you know bigger -- than it did yesterday you know I mean could potentially be one of those stories that kind of murky Ian in in -- that you don't want. I could have played out on not what -- all over the country and yeah now those little note I'm outside. It's yeah you know it happens in the aimed at that climate smack in the dealing with there congress congressional issues. And militarily even commented on it hasn't made the front page or actions Marion sighed and at the NFL on the patriots I would of preferred it I would imagine wiping them that might have something there with the fact that it was you know closed door meeting. That the Clemens and academic stuff was it was a public hearing. Was broadcast over the plate right back your editor at a press afterwards and -- would have been done much bigger story had not been for the congressional based on its own yeah on them and the other day yep and a I was the that up because they look worse and worse every time have I expected to Allen -- we talked about the Super Bowl win -- we were all talking and kind of the agreement with Fred. I just -- Goodell has been contradictory on his -- is now. Even in the Friday before the Super Bowl when he had his his stated -- league address that at the convention center. It changed and then he at that time that the reason that he can't council hardwood with the punishment. On that Friday he said it was because he wanted to maintain a competitive league -- when he was asked about the same thing today. He he changed to instead it was because. Belichick pattern the different interpretation of the way he read the rule that was not -- that's not the way I read the rule like that that was that was not my interpretation of the -- got quoted -- damage just at bottom line it was a different on the when he gave two weeks ago that we coach Belichick -- a different interpretation of the rule that I don't -- details that. He thought it was permissible to use electronic equipment as long -- that information wasn't used in the same game that's not my reading of this rule that's why discipline him -- aggressively and quote Roger Goodell right now that's not how -- that same question. Three weeks ago and I I picked -- bad and I used to be contradictory like that is not a good thing the bigger issue is he said there were no super bulls that were questioned. And now we find out -- Celtic told him in everything goes back to 2000. They're looking at the epic games now with the Steelers game in it would -- Steelers won the patriots come back when the AFC title game a very different game played out could that have been affected by the fact they -- the first time took those signals used in the second time protected Tom Brady. Help me out here by. We we know that now expected protect from being around here about it being on the job at the time that the ideal call ID one now. Everybody at that is nothing new Belichick has done has been in that's basically what. Was -- common knowledge that everybody knew of anybody that wanted to know -- But it was on message boards it was written it it wasn't in a towel behind the means thank goodness in any comments yesterday if everybody knows he's been doing well out it was common knowledge to anyone who read the stories about it because the Charlie Weis -- dating back to a pre season game with the buccaneers in 2000. Saying you know we had to signal that we -- I mean this was out. There for -- to acknowledge that was in that that Charlie -- in multiple directions at once I read that China like anecdote in that Paul Zimmerman T's and dot com may have been that which was a lot of anecdotal kind of up. I don't remember Roger Goodell specifically stand that is something about it on back to 2000 I don't senate yesterday very matter of factly while I find nothing no he has not not hiding anything he's that I that I think he's got out and saying that's -- yesterday was in fact. You know news -- and are you could argue that specter it would -- I totally agree who can we can attack and literally wanton. And I think that we're right to do that -- I don't think that he has any business in this whole proceeding by. I don't think -- being forthright await the -- said. This is nothing new it's gone back to 2000 and you make -- a good point and he had specifically this doesn't have anything to do with any of football and I think he's I think it's -- nothing is tainted you -- what you say here they want to Super Bowl and how -- say that at another contradictory comment that I thinking he needed. But if they'll lose and and that he is that a plus or fitness or don't I don't want the data brightly yeah we should."

Play from 8:24[8:24]" Mention wanting to is that that up on your toes and we don't we don't know what's out there but I've heard people say. Well depends. You know how important practice was that the rams and blah blah blah. If you take the practice today before the Super Bowl he gets suspended for at least one year at least one year I think the dumbest question is I hear so many patriots fans -- Well as there is the pick rule that you cannot take an opponent practiced it -- that it is specific role with the -- to pick a dynamite in the way -- That old that if she that's ridiculous you can talk about the defensive signals all you want that might you know a -- everybody does that out of right. But I don't think everyone breaks in and -- a practice before the Super Bowl sorry I just don't I -- that happens now. -- I'll get a little off about his words Matt Walsh I mean either talker go away. Using it could believe he's cashing his NFL check that it for five million dollars that they were out of the shop oblique."

Play from 9:21[9:21]" And I also think that he's dating his legal tucked in a row and yeah more than it that he has that in -- stationed -- could tell I promised they'd. Well that match that loading the big ability to you think he's gonna talk talk -- Yes I think he'll topics or nothing 'cause he cast page articulate -- but I don't think he has any evidence that's my personal opinion but I also you'll think he talks."

Play from 9:40[9:40]" Here's the thing now -- about the that you Indy. Now will be dealt kind of a little quarter which you guys have been in these kind of -- now if -- well. Then he'll be a corner and the -- wall will be a quarter at that point is that kind of a someone -- paying for this out of the ballot is no question they'll start. Deflecting everything towards college movement that's what I think which you gotta worry about the exact -- because. It dealt -- are going to take the -- here and I'll go -- on the -- question or spell -- is here is -- this little story -- kinda get back to -- square one -- although Goodell could -- at second -- is not a good -- for -- our team here now you know we make -- the Paul -- for the -- what did he -- he's looking like a -- Hall of Fame candidate -- and -- hundred. -- no wait a minute but let's put the brakes hot bat I'll. The -- a lot of things happened on his lot just believe there's a difference between covering it up successfully and bumbling through this in just dabbling in the opening up. I think that they -- right Goodell made it look like he wanted to get to the bottom of being clean house and in reality he would paint over it and covered anything he could."

Play from 10:50[10:50]" But I wanted to get back to Tom a point right right off the start of the -- with the of the dynasty -- and I don't know on Tuesday after that -- was some talk that you know is -- commitment and -- I don't think -- they -- I don't look at where -- about -- which began -- I was talking about -- that when -- to another accident talk about -- it and -- not not -- I -- a -- on how it's okay this idea there yes -- how is going to linger into next here on Saturday. We've gotten a lot of email about it and down I don't -- I am I know it's optional you know three of us talking amongst four of us here. -- none of us believe that. They're they're going to be you know. -- any need non playoff team and here's why I know that the ball so we have some misunderstanding -- he's back well I heard the discussion now yes we did talk about but brown might. You have that would be the only stipulation I would have over the by gates outlook you know -- the aftermath of that leads to a ballot act."

Play from 11:54[11:54]" Everybody's been on -- how do you -- then it's not over but the one thing we talked about -- you know they're going to win the division they're going to win eleven next -- and whatever and -- all of the other three teams not bad if if the Super Bowl was sort of a sign that things to come when we've always said. -- later. The the plays have to go the other way the injuries that. You know that the lot the good fortune that they've had for a long time if that starts to snowball and it -- and Brady takes -- those hits and misses a month than. Things start to add up and you don't give false starts that when you games. That could be the thing that -- pushes them back to pack. Like 2005. When they had some injuries yeah detail wasn't quite as high in the mean they had the perfect here this year they had they got break they stay healthy they got. You know false starts to win games that's not going to happen next year old likely."

Play from 12:44[12:44]" Ally Illini agree with that but I think we all that regardless of all the breaks or whatever they are going to be a good -- at the break. Allowed you to be via you know just a regular great team to potentially -- team you don't go in go undefeated we are not always been Belichick Brady. But it shows that the fine line between you know couple here and they could have easily lost to the to a three games maybe even more but they're that good in and they got some of the breaks that you needed in the Baltimore game and he went up and Eckstein and I."

Play from 13:15[13:15]" I think the thing that's going to have to be done has been handling of the roster because they have guys like Bruschi and -- comeback. Are they going to be as motivated next yours that you object I think they hate that it this year they could feel that they were going to win the Super Bowl and I just wonder if some. I just don't know about the law the lingering effect with some of these guys because of the and he talked before I'll say out you know before the morning. Allowed to get up at seven -- reasonably you know what I mean like the you have the name fighter. Especially guys like Bruschi who have won a couple already you know and oh I think -- going to have to take a look at that roster try to get that mix of the core veterans of the guys -- have the hunger."

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Play from 14:54[14:54]" When when it's on perjury can be a serious -- order is love I don't that you -- you gotta be kidding me. You -- hole without you moron wow that's the Hewitt hired dog or -- to compliment but got the final one. He and every launchers opened their IQ being a I can't believe you listen they show came all the time you're you're back on the Brady gaining any -- Ottawa pizza I want to so why don't you want -- that you can't there's nothing this guy you can't get anything by him on the show you you ask the question he's got edited to that in eighty forgot to order me up. That's inexcusable and I used a respected -- somebody else I'd let it go with strippers I can't let it go he knows better than this. It took a couple of its own many Gary says that might have BR order as as in here he -- no sandwich. Saddles in which was was admitting Gary and any burial -- just going to call in his another order out there in this may not be our order that I mean -- that's what you have to start back at all are back in the by and they move on. There are what did you and a you know is that area for retired -- bowl. Because he has he sent the stripper he's that'll save you from the in which order you want to of pepperoni pizza bull wings of the great. I gotta -- I was Gary. At wash my hands of the -- things so fast. They have a job they can't pleaded no matter what he does not simply the guy does nothing may change our orders every other week he does not than they do well hobbled Garcia and the -- has like what -- and -- three orders that I asked yeah. Dated uptight why I have to I have three orders and -- one of those three -- right now I'd be capped an area that you're always going to turkeys and that's what I have now yet. Well what's the other two. Yeah there's there's this is that strippers this that would be ordered and the originals in which involve Bobby and -- throws I've stolen yes well I'm stunned that you strippers are at best left takes over I'm an old like I don't know youkilis needs -- weary and I'm happy was going to take a break with that -- is here. I'm just -- Paul and I -- I think Tom needs -- time -- not -- occupied on the top of him. Why can't eat pizza I don't want pizza I don't you don't want to ask you eat a lot of Red Sox again I don't I don't think sauce marinara the month throws that I can't believe. What wears many here. I agree on the other -- we call I went on our -- arc like Gary -- many Gary Nolan knows okay aren't outdoors that's the most incompetent crew whatever team. Many Gary -- leaves I don't think that's our order what do you mean you don't think it's -- question is where Gary. He worker he's got he's got -- vacation time is that he Eric yeah we're nearly fifty yeah I airport taken a break take a break."

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