PFW in Progress - 2/21/2008

Thu, 21 Feb 2008

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as we discuss the propects participating in the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine. We'll also discuss which positions the Patriots may target in free agency and the draft. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, Tom and newcomer Erik Scalavino as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Listen LIVE Tuesday's and Thursday's from 12-2 p.m. and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 2:42[2:42]" Now is that I just went before it came down here and he posted that TD talks and it took about twelve questions it by by -- In the basically you know an -- attitude guys walked off -- try to you know in the hall way but he said he -- you know -- right the race and Mark. Oh oh that ain't eating that got him that they get it on paper at all when Bryant -- there with a camera I don't know they just posted before we. I -- on TV. A report is an official puts his report that the falcons are willing to trade the Angell hall. Which is interesting it was -- on Tuesday at all or report that the patriots may -- with the franchise tag. It was it was done that TV sports team. -- channel ESPN what -- at what do you remember what -- 1981 you know how on Albert Haynesworth and market in time war. Lap of the French OK there's two lot of guys here church articles through our bodies as the deadline for a idea. Not back quickly as it must not happen today but a lot of guys don't. Is this record for a amount of guys that once -- with the tag. I don't know how many we get eleven are real so a lot of now would it at the accident at a the reason I think that LJ Smith two on pains were at today -- on and on what they did -- that he didn't think quickly that the deal signed to a yeah. For 41 David I don't think -- report that franchise the most -- okay. Because about five minutes later -- right now if you deal. Anyway -- interest in the hall I -- visited him what you. He gave him absolutely and we mean blue tarp would would you give up the first topic for him yet. It talked about it at night at value here it was a last week and we wanted to is that you wanted to that we were him I would. And I think the falcons would do because. Indeed got out falcons there if they're shopping De'Angelo hall they would clearly -- top ten pick it. -- here what are our -- web radio -- T dot com we have a lot of emails it obviously everything's on the table. -- continues to be front page news could tell reported today that he's very anxious in his words speak -- that the wires that are. Working out whatever arrangement it is it will allow him to come forward although his agent says that they have even talked. Though that I was weird is. His lawyer said that they talked one per wants to know would we please explain to the ignorant what the franchise tag means that's probably a good point."

Play from 5:55[5:55]" Well that just means that. There's one guy per team you put the franchise tag on and that kinda gives you -- of right and that guy it. I strongly limit the mobility that he has that the player would still be a free agent by. In getting franchise he would be paid the average of the top ten salaries at his position oh actually ranked a top five. Transition dogs aren't -- you -- And that would be an older quarterback yet the average of the top five quarterback and and so on so forth. Confidence for the pay out it's a one year tendered it's guaranteed if you sign it. You're you're guaranteed that's -- for the season. And teams can still negotiate with that player however if they chose to sign a player to the offer sheet and ended up in the in the eighteen their own back guys right let him go they would that team would have to forfeit 21 round pick and non conference."

Play from 6:51[6:51]" And the purpose that the league in the of the created this franchise that was you know to give. Teams the ability the spirit of it was to give team's ability to protect that one marquee guy. You don't rather than to let him go to free agent you know it it felt it was good of the team it's good for the fans to give teams that the buy it. Protect that one real star player the probably that is that over the years the franchise tag started to be. Used you know for a lesser guys to give leverage and keep them here of that other teams couldn't you know bargain with them so. The franchise the reason for the -- and kind of been. I don't know I lose but I agree it's been used to different -- and it was otherwise you know originally created for."

Play from 7:41[7:41]" And as we speak -- looking on network over my shoulder at the raiders did what I'm sure you don't block why is that how you pronounce them and I said that what you were a what do you name it that the raiders -- was too well -- you know. Wanted to get his name and always kidnappers. I lots future is that Adams chapter is talking about it right now there's rumors that Kyle law or not rumored Ty Law has. He Beatrice and coming to the page and you know. I'm -- all have to do with money -- you know that the price is right it was his quote actually my my right that they would have. It's really actually thought I don't know I'm at bat. Want one in the media once an inner city and others in the suburbs so far apart in an improbably in -- so what the latter it. It's it's that it is to me. Anyway that is a lot of movement going round that saw a lot of big games being bandied about guys being cut like that Thomas. You know so it's going to be of interest to not going to go right up to the draft they think you know the patriots were having that -- Give -- a little bit more intrigue to this year's draft and the other years though it's a good way to take our mind off that."

Play from 9:04[9:04]" The patriots draft some players. That'd be in the yankees' industry and what -- Eisen. You know liberal and they -- Super Bowls like a lot of contributions from young guys they drafted yeah -- get away from well I mean that is tougher to make it there's a better team that was back obviously adult help we that are -- that Imus and make me think that the that is going to be any different than it was last year I mean I think that out as a good player. But he's an older player. He's had a struggle of coverage. And I mean they were great team last year -- lately war but I think it's tigers -- giving the younger guys could leave -- Hobbs is long term answer easy young guy."

Play from 9:47[9:47]" would be ready to play well that's you know I I think that the the big the big question I I agree with Tom overall loss I'd like him. New blood come in and replaced I'm not pushing Bruschi and say now and in Colvin and all the other guys out the door. There's going to be a big part of this team if they choose they all want to be back I would imagine. There's going to be a big part of it like that replacement on the roster like ICG Sanders he's here he's played a little bit. Now he's a starter I -- a nation I'm encouraged by him. I want to seed you know the -- Sanders of the line backing cooler. You know I -- with the defensive -- I thought you know the the Ty -- in the against wolf walks command but I haven't seen that at linebacker I've liked -- that. The transformation of that defense you know kind of on the field. You know we can kind of gauge it a little bit until we -- and I'm really concerned Tom you guys brought up Ellis -- I'm really concerned there Oscar Lewis isn't there when it I don't know -- seventh round pick in well. But I'm also. Annual leave like most people think he's going to. I'm not. Convince them on Randle gaze returned is no sure thing he'd probably will be back -- I think he's one of those guys the patriots probably take care of but. -- I'm not I'm not really all the -- cornerback court now so."

Play from 11:09[11:09]" Get a lot of work to do you know even at even annual day. You know that. Can't tell me that they can't make it. Got one year left on his contract he is going to honor. But he got to start looking at you know if it could be his place right now and -- are now. -- nobody's replacing -- so brought the replaces Harrison. Or then replaced enters you know meriwether ready I mean yeah Astride that he made but at least there's guys in indicate they'd. It's been a first round pick on a guy. You know it is to us that we depth at linebacker my back doesn't have anybody and I I don't know because they play the 34 and his type a linebacker. You know. He doesn't really try young guys played a spot but I don't think that he has young guys that looming brightly -- that year they."

Play from 12:03[12:03]" That's the main problem caught Eric Alexander. Caught Pierre woods because those guys can play. So drafts have young guys take those roster spot you know it the don't have to take Bruschi and they -- roster spot right now. But gimme a talent that I can look forward to a 23 years and say these guys can play in this league as we the guys they have now they can't play."

Play from 12:24[12:24]" That that would it look like today I want that because they drafted heavy offensive line. They're both drafted tight ends they drafted heavy at defensive line there are always going to get their their their defense of backfield they got Maroney last year in the first round. You know two years ago you know so. But at linebacker -- it went -- and they ecstatic at linebacker but always slightly very got a lot of but always late and even -- the fifth round Bryant Larry you know yet Tully Banta-Cain seventh round -- in the seventh round they don't. That's never urged APEC you know speculated that there are not that good but we've seen linebackers cover it and -- play of the week in and play well but when it goes to the point where -- now you know going 988 years nine years. If it certainly there are times where they didn't have anybody gave a thought if there's -- them or. You know things like that but now that point where. That can't be the reason every year for eight years right they had to have -- one guy available to them. Who fit there's just in the pages too well not or that at that point when that guy what's available to them that was another at a position that is higher value on their board."

Play from 13:37[13:37]" the you know -- that that the secondary to ago. If Samuel did return I think they're normal style of bringing in two or three veteran cornerback. And let them fight it out you know and duke you pick from. Weber you you know get -- Scott Eric Warfield Tory James all of these guys some of them have not made the team at all some of them stuck with the team played out of being good Tyrone -- you know was -- quality are for approval champion I'm on the work some of them happen. With Samuel I think that's good enough without -- that's now it's not good enough. Because I don't think you can you can replace cereal with quantity right you need to replace them with quality and I'm not sure. Where they're going to get that two of the best corners on the market what French -- in the guy can't pronounce name from all OK partial truth so -- Tom anything about that."

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Play from 15:19[15:19]" He spent like three days. Compiling all kinds and you gotta have Tom and I make fun of every year even though we still a lot of but he got. He goes and like all these different sites and he has the them out of him and how he does it. Where but he put together is the any hard big -- starting at the back seat he he he get like based on like the thirty different right. He'll put together a position rankings and you know have like maybe top 101215 guys at every position based on a can't accumulation of all these different thing. He went like three days at that not many left it all on -- I was Columbine read."

Play from 15:54[15:54]" know. That though I don't like what milk hyper -- I think Q. Indeed might have written in on the block out a lead no I'd rather not look at other people's rankings I don't buy that person you don't think so I don't you know why I like it in period -- he doesn't really really doesn't do what I like -- you know why don't buy it."

Play from 16:12[16:12]" Because his were all the rankings are too close together like like I had one in my criticisms is. Now hyper I I'd -- quite bright dot I respect that throughout the years. He never comes out and those -- Jake long you play. He'll never take a top ten a guy proceed to beat up and never ever ever as he said that IKEA plate so that tells me that. He -- from somewhere because. You would think one time with a forty years he's done I think one of those guys was that was."

Play from 16:40[16:40]" Rain a guy and Tom and Tom has been on this the last couple weeks and it first night I kinda didn't really know what what you're trying to say but the more I think about it. The more I agree with you and if you think about it read. Yeah plus every single year in the top ten right. And what -- the last time a draft on all the way every guy they've got taken a top ten right well. Good he was pretty good but there's always -- a -- old he's this guy who. Wasn't even close to being that value right. I don't let us it is up by -- and I yet talking talking about it right blue chip but it yep I'm talking about what we three what's go back to -- four. Okay oh -- 32 -- mean there's always spot right. Why none of these draft guru Marriott on piper you know Todd -- all these guys none of them can identify the guy that's going to be the -- right well you know what everybody thinks this -- a top ten guy I don't. Betemit would be as much of a draft expert has anything -- Garland but no one ever does."

Play from 17:50[17:50]" You don't know why I like I didn't really understand what you're talking over the more I think about it at the more uptight the more right I -- but -- has happened at the Cobb violent we're talk about D'Brickashaw Ferguson that he has had trouble with. With Darrell pass from Virginia Tech and and a Anders in the kid from Alabama would the bears at the -- ball. Immediately talking about his arms are so long we were wondered speed rusher did you global trouble is because. Yeah don't we -- we're built -- if you he'll live. He would ever -- Wednesday you I don't think D'Brickashaw Ferguson is worth the top five they've never seen anything like that like that kinda stuff outlook of war criminals guys. But I thought -- may -- was one of those guys who. Kind of broke the -- a little bit and started saying negative thing he'd he'd -- you don't he does. He'll start off the process like that like right now. That he just couldn't forms to to the raking that the problem I have little flaky early out of the -- that he does stay in his own opinions. I think he talks the two what do you like personnel guys and everything yeah that's been appalled at I don't care or were they tell you. They think their goal I'll want to know where you think they should go you don't look."

Play from 19:02[19:02]" One black kinda like our lives you know and that's why I you know I talked about you know. I don't think it necessarily right in the best gauge of wrong a lot now but -- but they don't try to tell you with -- they don't try to tell you where guys getting picked. They ran the players write what -- with in the order that they think that their ability. Now that make him right into me and I might have to British just -- in the second best player in the draft when in reality was like. Third -- really that would come quarterbacks but -- you know that the point is. We understand you know. Mike D'Brickashaw Ferguson okay is that we we keep talking about him like a name I don't think -- I don't think that he's a colossal bust. But he obviously wasn't good enough linemen to be taken in the top three right like he did like he went right. So why didn't someone one of these guys supposedly an expert. Why couldn't one of them identified him say. You know I liked this guy as a player but. I think give him more of a late you know mid to late first round value value lies not not necessarily a you know a top of the first round guide to me it's -- it didn't take an offensive tackle Fred in the top three top five. He's gotta be opted yeah he's got to -- don't yet a running -- you are a piece of that puzzle that you know. He's going to be my left tackle for ten years and I'm not going to have to worry about that position once that tanyon write it and I think like -- like may -- even if he thinks that it'll all the guys that he's gold cup. I -- I know -- the top episodes and -- Another guy like -- just tell me right he's going to go on the top five I don't think he should grow that high enough guys that guy that the raiders drafted a few years ago the -- Robert gallery gallery not a -- you -- with all these guys value waiting him. Because I was even close to being good -- now I would I never -- my guys forehand wide. Why isn't that no one audit for whatever reason you didn't have the mentality. To be a pro if they actually draft expert and I do I don't. I do respect a lot of the guys that are ideal and I agree with -- I think hyper is going to any of them you know -- kind of gotten all corporate everything. On by if there is go to as opposed to beat they should be able say it'll. The teams really like. AB and -- I'm not irony being -- teams I think they're afraid because I think they get their information from the team I know it's an inexact science but when a guy all that much off the chart like gallery did he still playing he's not going to be left tackle anymore. You know when he -- About him that would indicate that might happen and no one. You know -- everyone ain't happy about what guys you know. We gotta have a big I have to Rachel from the Philippines who provided would want today. Rachel if you haven't -- you want to said it will get right to it. Right now we're gonna get right eating we'll take a break we'll be right back."

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