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[15:04] ..." another guy or sign -- over -- Ryan don't talk about Jason Webster he -- probably draft title or Fernando like eight -- here some you know he's been obvious with -- As you'll be"...
[19:00] ..." let's not say you know I'd like to you know I'd like. Jason Webster or whoever he likes him more than Fernando Bryant -- you know he might essence say they are but. He doesn't have day to day I want Asante Samuel much Jason Webster but I'm not giving him that."...
[24:06] ..." down you've got to have what are your top two government on Wes Welker did that are open all game yet actually."...
[26:54] ..." Moss back that he's going to be the focal point you have Wes Welker is going to be. You know you're out your secondary focal point for lack of a better term. Where where does Javon"...
[49:26] ..." top for almost a decade now they have Tom Brady they had Bill Belichick dale Thomas will come here for less money at San Francisco they tried to give more money and he won gold there"...
[50:38] ..." in Toms right -- gonna be able to do that by starting Jason Webster. The way the patriots have the ability to. They can take it may be augment their secondary by -- only -- head"...
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[1:26:27] ..." are however whether it's a one on one -- a guy like Jason Webster's and commitment. I don't know what's going to beat -- it's going to be a guy like that they're not going to make you younger and a tool. Well worse than -- it's going to replace him you'll in my mind for bill belichick's defense is going to be older than and might you know. Christian thanks for the call you were there."...
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[1:23]" Welcome to another edition of PFW in progress on the -- is laughing already. That voice here is not afraid curse because he has not in the building right now is Eric collect oh Venus and how closely how disappointed everybody was just heard your voice. Bring it on to bring it on I know from experience. -- W him progress on patriots dot -- radio Eric elect -- you know sitting in the post here right now joining me today PFW editor Paul Perillo. If W staff writer because -- that later. Oh my god beaten -- had -- an editor Andy heart in the house behind the glass the real edgy. Gary -- to recognize meaning Gary. And we ought to talk about today -- our last show free agency started the patriot law if you guys they re signed a few guys. There's been news of a big retirement in the NFL this block -- you guys are with a guy who left the guys who came in oh and if anybody in the audience wants to join his a couple of that web radio a patriot dot com if you want to writing your thoughts electronically. That's web radio patriots -- or want a letter we might not get it today or if you want to get your voice heard on the show among the gaggle of idiots including myself that 585437482 and 5 wait. 5437482 and before anybody starts complaining we do not have want from any of our listeners. But Paul and I were smart enough to bring our own due to our guys are -- to do it."
[2:51]" And I'm going to be cranky. -- that any different than the other show on a -- or get food. But I am positive we should start by talking about Randy mall positive guys were saying okay. Brand name -- contract for the lead is that big a deal I think it's very protein contract to mean. For a guy coming off a record breaking season he was clearly underpaid. Last year nine million a year. -- it's a good deal. But you guys. Well I think when you look at the other teams perspectives one he's Randy Moss he's had some troubles in the past obviously here -- the league when he -- pretty well. But he's also what 32 down will be 32 this year and so if your other teams just 31. I only 31 beaten a few other teams that he wants this kind of money. I think you -- a little more reserved to do it because you haven't had the experience is that the patriots had with a so I think that they trust here they're just them. He'll be okay. But if you're a Green Bay here do you really want to give him nine million dollar so I don't think that was a huge market for -- know that eagles were were interested in him. And that doesn't surprise because they look like they're trying to make a lot of moves this offseason but that I took the whole cowboys thing that was thrown out there at. -- just I mean the Packers obviously farmers now we're tighter and I just if you look at the teams with his criteria I just don't think there was a lot of good good bit of matches and creation now."
[4:14]" No it what do you make of that you mentioned the eagles and and they're allegedly throwing a lot of more money in an army you know alot more but at least more money than the patriots and give him and him. Reportedly turning it down to -- here because of Brady what do you what do you try to want to -- price called TOP -- TO if you don't play with -- now. I think they're clearly. Brady is the that are more attractive alternative out of those two will probably out of any you know -- Manning me your head and shoulders above anybody else oh. I'm sure that had to do that I agree -- Andy. All all I think -- area it's a good deal for Randy -- but I think it's great deal for the patriots I don't think it's a break the bank and while millions signing bonus is a good signing bonus for a guy who's in the you know the the thirties now but. Not that I an exorbitant amount of money. And make it a manageable and Tapp point denoting guaranteed and -- you looking -- you know little 50% of that deal is guaranteed of the patriots probably going to be a week out of a bad situation in the third year they need to Evans in the structure of the contract -- galleries. As to how that breaks down but I think it's a good deal for the patriots and al -- grew with Tom -- it was huge market out there I think there was very select amount of teams they'll be willing to pay. You know nine or ten million dollar Percy in for a guy like Randy Moss not knowing. If he'll buy into your program the weight -- to the patriots what was it just that or was that the fact that the consensus seemed to be. That moss was going to re signed with New England regardless and it teams were -- early -- when -- going to where I was it was definitely open teams in want to be used I'm sure there -- them to that. I think there's a lot of factors that come together that make him. You know age declining production late in the year the questions about his history that any team that doesn't have Tom Brady. You put those all together and he's not a guy you're really willing did you go all out to pursue would break the bank for."
[6:09]" So what do you think the what do you think though the rationale was for a not franchising him to begin. And then the fact that he took what seemed like a long time and it was an in in actuality only won four days 34 days of freedom but Rory actually signed. What was the rationale that was all the speculation that -- well okay they didn't tag him because there had to deal and then when he didn't sign right away on Friday it was like well what what's going on is he talking of those teams. What was the rationale he was going to have this are ready wide it'd take this long to get it done. In --"
[6:42]" He -- one it was I was there will left speculate now because no one answering -- we haven't talked to either party we haven't talked -- doctor. Tomorrow we have they would ask those direct questions. And frankly I don't expect to get you know honest answers from either side on that anyway but. You're asking me you know what you know plausible scenario is that. Mark ask them not to French. And you know you know I MI found ample body needs a franchise and anyway who cares business is being done -- by. But I think -- might have expressed you know is his wish to not be franchised so he could you what was out there and I also think that he was a lot close to signing with Philadelphia based on. And the things that I read today and in other plays and not much at random in the paper by. I'm just trying to drawn around the Internet a little bit. I think there's a lot closer signing with Philadelphia then there and it really realized yesterday number one. And number two I think it was a tough decision form I think he really really -- to like take this shot right now and go somewhere else. And and give up the comfort factor that I have with with Brady. And you know I think that that was tough decision format I don't think he wanted to be franchised in and now luckily for him the patriots didn't do that. And now a lot of to look around a little bit and now I think that's why ticket I I just think they're 34 days but artist for a free agency was a long time. I don't think that you. You can't -- and pick him stating the fact I think at this stage free agency three or four days a long time because most teams."
[8:21]" Into Ernie and I like at a high priority creative like that idea. Do you ever and -- and -- were kind of getting -- little bit yesterday in the office about. You know just that very topic about whether a couple of days as a long time without doing anything that a Robert yarder that it goes a patriot night. But you know last year at this time what was in effect the first time under the ballots accurate that they really went out made a big splash right away in free agency. With a -- and that just started the ball rolling with. The Kelley Washington's -- the concert -- and all the other you know Welker trade and then moss moss trade during the draft. This year. Yet -- Bruschi they brought Kelly -- an impact now they have the the big deal with moss but they've lost Samuel they've lost gay. Does does the -- signing kind of stop that bleeding literally."
[9:15]" And it would have been I mean the I would have been following -- mall on Philly there's no question about that term -- action and I would have felt that way I don't think. You know you can question what they're doing and you know how aggressive their being in you know we hear that in Macon. Bill called him at 11 o'clock Friday morning. To me that's what you do I mean if you want a guy you make contact with a the first day I want. I want you to come here you tell me in -- is the only guy that they had first date type interest in in. You know we also talked about and I even got super fan Carol hardy to admit if the patriots are -- were all far -- football team today than when the season and you lost Randall -- you lost on days -- lost Rosevelt Colvin and the guy you brought back. You can't possibly think he's going to have as good a year moving forward as he had last year. So right now patriots aren't as cut me that's the bottom line they're not as good a football team. And teams like the eagles are trying to move forward and make themselves better and being aggressive so maybe the gap has closed the one thing I'll say about."
[10:16]" The eagles as. I don't think they overpaid for Samuel at all well I think. No matter where you are -- 2467 Daniels one of the premier quarters in the league he's one of the privateers he's proven. And he got about 19 million a year. So that works well that's what -- her quarters make soul if you want them that to -- I don't think he was asking for. A ridiculous salary based on when he signed with Philadelphia I think that was a very fair deal for that me and for him and I think the patriot should assign them."
[10:48]" I don't hesitate at all I won't I think the patriots also. I think they would have been in the ballpark I don't think those number -- with -- those numbers were extraordinary I think it's very good solid contract and you know he's been. You know. That a million dollar one month but. I think -- was open like 21 me too little money guaranteed and we're talking 32 in the third three years. I mean that that line with -- a lot of these guys make now I don't think it was. Of blasting win Mark kind of deal like -- the patriots probably would have been in the ball park on but I think that dated and offered to warm. Up front in I think that they've got a -- sort of the guaranteed part or the total from the guaranteed money or guaranteed money -- not that much to talk -- the ballpark they -- the I would -- to -- which would have been in that ballpark all of the whole contract at a -- if you ask the patriots right now. With they have been willing to do that I they would have probably you know pennant fever but. I think that they didn't do that they didn't make that kind of off the -- him and -- got a point where he can beat the patriots won them. And I think that he was determining it out in the open market immediate but I -- people going to try to probably. Make them feel better because we all thought it was we all didn't it was going to return so I don't think any of us really had any hope that he would be. -- to -- But but we thought it was going to be gone to break the bank idea -- bank I did he thought he was talking about ten plus million per year a hundred million dollar total package Allison and you know what if you get that. I idiotic yes I'll -- I would give and take and that's and a normal deal but I mean. What do you think may have welcomed the possible difference have been with the patriots would've given -- got annoyed. So that's that's going to hurt more -- got to -- a six year deal with fifteen million -- people that he was that good that's not right yet but I thought I would have the same reaction was an elated with Randall -- work -- the patriots would be ludicrous that -- I don't -- diplomat I read OK that kinda lost us out of their -- they gave me an okay I mean that that want to Lamotte biggest winner -- Randle -- he -- it's ridiculous contract for years seventeen point six million dollars for a an undrafted free agent quarter. Who is not a starting level cornerback --"
[13:14]" That -- not start over Israel's Hobbs. So drafted in the record after the oh okay so there their depleted now instantly at cornerback did it do any of you guys think there's any chance. That the team try to make -- move for either. Lito shepherd or De'Angelo hall or even both of them not both and I don't think either. I mean if they want to pay the money they could pay the minors and I don't think they want to bring in a guy they don't know would -- in the money willing to do pay of five million last but but after apologist said that. You know thinking that they were close enough to Samuel that they were at least in an eight and in the right ball park. Does that at least give them a sense that now OK I think I don't know if they were in the ball about saint let's let's assume Paul's theory is correct and they were close enough to emerald but he had just cited for whatever reason time ago it's time went on don't understand my my theory. I didn't say the patriots offered him. And I think if they did he'd still be. But that they say they potentially I think my it would have right I don't think they did okay so. Let's assume that that's correct and Samuel does take a deal that's not too far off from what the patriots are going to offer does that give them enough leverage to go to a shepherd or -- And say look we were going to offer Samuel. Pretty much. What he got. So does that give them any leverage at all to go to them and say we can give you something close to that while I think --"
[14:36]" Were willing to trade with the eagles into me and Lito Sheppard authorities in the contract -- they would -- that they would the eagles would love that. I mean they're going to give him a first round pick and the pay but I don't think hater too willing to do that trade in in money. Now you given up a double right and you were you didn't do with a on him so. I don't think you know those guys -- him I don't either. I think dialogue here I think he's that yellow anyway so Ty Law that -- trade for another guy or sign -- over -- Ryan don't talk about Jason Webster he -- probably draft title or Fernando like eight -- here some you know he's been obvious with -- As you'll be that -- lie premier of Warfield that -- game three doesn't make the team stinks but that's what I do that's how they fill these holes and we should probably don't know he is. Maybe even today -- here. Kinda getting it created pitched title lawyers are -- to let Steve Webster. You know and the papers have him being of one of the target at that ballots -- Draft by San Francisco 2002 round pick. I don't know what you I kind of liked me college but I don't think he said all right did there college but he liked him and hand -- on in San Francisco. And that he went to the Atlanta Atlanta it he played okay and was kind he was on the -- there -- buffalo -- really want to -- figured that one -- from one of those guys -- you watch games when he -- QB he's he's what -- just -- would watch -- development -- the -- that Jason -- he -- that. -- at that kills them all and that's why I want -- agree. Well I don't think that way they are what does work out work -- all the work now I don't -- a premium price and quarterbacks. I don't think you mean it's funny because -- I. I think you'll look. Overall everybody points at the diamonds in the rough but overall the guys he's brought in. I think a lot of them like the ones Tom just aren't around ought to have worked out but in the matter the team keeps winning -- Brady. Not my point. I -- mean you can talk about your values -- the system doesn't work if you don't have the best quarterback in football right now but I understand about the position I I think. Bill doesn't value that position as I'm going to -- got nine million a year to play but based on that and I don't agree with not based on now which -- the -- you guys defensive line. Now go to sleep outside linebacker I mean he sought deals Thomas and Michael pay him. I think he can change my defense to make plays for me I think in the secondary thinks he can scheme that you can -- agree with that level talent and I'll even up. I think he says every once in while there's an outside linebacker guy like that -- when he went after back then was a good contract not great but good contract when he signed it and and I would also that the 2003 that -- in his ankle and -- similar to last year they were very aggressive early in free agency after. I think corner he feels like he can get by. Yes I'm not -- I was you know kind of an -- that he thinks it's a position. Sort of like the Red Sox -- with first base with David Ortiz and Giambi and I think he feels like if he comes to camp with twelve DBs he'll find three by three or four that you that he can scheme together and you know one guy's strengths will cover up the other guy's weakness -- and he can put it all together what about the fact that now. Dom capers. Is heading up that secondary as the as the coach. Does that change the -- philosophy at all about just bringing in any old guys play in the secondary or do you think you might want to get somebody like caller shepherd. For example like the play aggressive with her quarters and he got the guys to do right now is how Hobbs plays about twenty yards off receivers by and we saw what happens when he plays aggressive in the Super Bowl. It was all happily plays aggressive against the colts -- Reggie Wayne drop that sure touchdown pass when he was up on him and he pointed out that. One on one it and they went right out right but I don't think dom capers is going to have a lot of personnel type level out I think he's going to be a big factor in the defense via. But I don't think he all of a sudden has the -- to come in here and say. Yeah I'd like -- that makes nine million a year built to carry it like. Is not going to -- I think he's next on the defensive mind depth chart but. He's he's a big second about you think he'll just come in and work with the whatever whatever is given and I might have to left out you'll have let's not say you know I'd like to you know I'd like. Jason Webster or whoever he likes him more than Fernando Bryant -- you know he might essence say they are but. He doesn't have day to day I want Asante Samuel much Jason Webster but I'm not giving him that."
[19:14]" I don't want at this point out the fact that you know because -- is critical as anyone with the individual. Mold you know the money buys and Chad brown and Donald -- is in. And and on and on and on you know more recently the Eric war field you know Tory James has. Bite you you can't ignore the fact that. Whether them the most of worked out in the Nazis or not he Belichick has been able to put together. A program here that is constantly in contention to win at all in an an -- that's an exaggeration. They've had a chance when at all every year and so the dating habits you wanted on note but all three. -- oh -- now Eric -- contention at going to be the topical heading into 8 right now you know what went on September. People I think most prognosticators -- up patriot and smallest at the top. Oh all of these -- free agent we can talk about the mall in you know and he made the comment Randy Moss -- you know people will be like the guys following you you're right. The guys falling just a question that's of people would be taken. But I -- idea I don't think it would matter a whole lot on the field I think that they would find a way like as scheme with the -- fans in. Mix and match and off fans in and find a way in the game and uncle now. But you know can you imagine you can be 45 games worse which has a lot. Still when you division still ratings section and I and he ended and and older go to the the only thing I have a question about is it I think it's going to be clear they have to win by office again because. 22 parts of your deepen our. Not only questionable that you don't have meant you don't have people to line up but playwright or that you don't you don't have and you don't have enough guys at linebacker or cornerback even playoff football game right now. I don't know bill Leo along time luckily we don't have any games scheduled in March they'll be okay come August but. You know it's clear that you have a defensive line and and often you're the back end of your defense is not they are right now. And ideas that I think is going to be hard work forty points a game Welker that the other thing too is. You know is raised that often I don't think it was -- out that -- it was over rated that I. They which is great. Matt Light on the NFL network but the at -- offense which is great. But even when you are -- that good. -- not -- school that moment it was scored -- they'll ask. But it ended up with five points but by all ball and they also tried to win although point -- but probably still try to win by 45 points but my point this. They came a point in the season. Where's that production although still good was markedly less than it had to. You know and it and media the line of demarcation was that the awful. That at buffalo first of the three night games but it -- the tenth game from that point on they have a good game offensively where. They scored you know thirty some odd points but it wasn't the game. As it had been earlier than. They scored 31 to beat Philadelphia that night but we all came away in the -- eagles really don't work for every ya -- in this game and and really it was woods or because they've picked up a pass and make him return for a touchdown by. That knows the system all night he's the quarterback and but I have to think that teams are going to you know time you made this comment to me off yet. Teams are going to and the entire off season trying to figure out they might not be successful. But they're going to be trying to figure out how in the world the lowdown on the offense and we never but it would anything like that in the -- in the last ten years how to slow this down. I think that's going to show up I had just don't think you can maintain that let you know school X and rightly don't have to. That's all you don't know that I recognize that you'd you'd you'll lose four games that you do what I last year you netted three others -- instead of winning by ten you win by four you know that would make 21 -- by fourteen. You still -- willing demand a comment about about -- and that's right I mean can you expect him to duplicate god you know nine to eleven though."
[23:19]" several Mike Martz that once he said. Our offense is so good right now even when we don't win the Super Bowl. The word that he that he that other teams look at the off season that he how they could stop they spent more time that they have to play. They they spent more time study in the house because they don't were so difficult to stop by the death should -- with the patriots team that going to look at Howard people -- away. How loaded the ravens pay well way. It is going to try to incorporate those two things together as you said he idiots not always going to work some teams are going to try the patriots or forty it's exactly flat out -- right I don't have way personnel and but I I think some teams will try to take both of those that it like I I love with the colts that with Welker -- Marlin Jackson into the off on third down to be on third down you've got to have what are your top two government on Wes Welker did that are open all game yet actually."
[24:12]" All the time but the only issue on the flip side of that the is also the first year where Tom bradys and good talent and the town that's returned. You know we talked last year that we thought it was going to take months for them to really collecting moss and while it didn't take my title one week right now he's got. The whole off season with a well woman boss comes and who knows what he does after that point that million but he's got the whole offense to work with. And maybe now they you know if we believe that Maroney was banged up and they were limiting him. You know maybe there's some room for. Colts take growth because I don't think they can be better but root for it to be different in succeed in -- I'm sure they'll make adjustments to like that but it. I mean there with a best -- but do you think upon that they let's say they are able to score you know 3035 points a game they going to be giving up. When he eight to 32 points a game and I would say yeah let's give up more that's the bottom line they're not going to give up that -- can be given up in every game I mean I think. When they lose games they had they -- Alou 34 when he like that but I don't think they're going to be consistently giving up thirty some points. Web radio patriots are -- you want to write in 585437482 as a number to call if you want to let's get some emails guys. James and England our first one to check and -- he has a rumor that he wants to comment on I heard a rumor that Javon Walker at wide receiver could sign a one year deal with the pat what do we think about that that are rumor that he can't walk. I didn't hear anything the patriots are on."
[25:42]" I know the cowboys are very interested in them but. Right now others -- over the I mean he's in pretty bad shape I guess with the news yeah Bosnia there's a lot of questions to whether he could even play -- the also wants the ball all the time. Into the ball time I don't hear you have -- big the end it goes I know Dallas the Dallas fans are really like Javon Walker. If you're talking about the guy who's played in three years -- ball for a because then when you have an attitude you can live with -- right when you catch ninety balls a year fourteen for touchdowns. But those guys that are injured. It's still have the attitude I hate those guys because -- about 50% of what they used to be but they don't -- any of the -- so I just wondering about the I also think."