PFW in Progress - 3/11/2008

Tue, 11 Mar 2008

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as we discuss the latest free agent signings and turn our focus to the 2008 NFL Draft. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, Tom and newcomer Erik Scalavino as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Listen LIVE Tuesday's and Thursday's from 12-2 p.m. and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 15:43[15:43] ..." never know that's the last thing we do have an email about Adam Seward from Colin doesn't say words from. It just wanted to throw the ESPN's scouting report for Adam Seward. He has good speed agility and range he has a high motor player who gives maximum effort on every snap and I"...

Play from 16:20[16:20] ..." the future my only question you guys today. Is what happened to Clark Haggans he's created Edberg there was a lot of talk about him possibly coming here that he did at the park that he"...

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Play from 2:11[2:11]" Welcome back to another addition of VFW and progress young patriots dot com radio Fred Hersch. Nowhere to be found today so you know what that means your worst nightmares that era collects old you know sitting in the host's chair. Join the usual idiot VFW editor Paul Perillo."

Play from 2:28[2:28]" Staff writer. I had some had to step right tomcat Alley and Andy the head heart is -- is around here somewhere. Probably ordering launch if I'm not mistaken but anyway it's Tuesday march 11 free agency continues. Draft preparation continues but there's some other news involving the patriots though lawsuit being dropped its the latest on. Matt Welsh free agent signings players still out there there's all kinds of stuff going on we're going to be talking about it today you can join in if you like email sent web radio at patriots dot com. If you're sitting at work if maybe you've been. Listening for -- many years or maybe just tune into the show recently a couple of weeks ago. Your work your pass in the time you are not doing any work anyway you might as we'll talk some football give a call 585437482. And you never know sometimes we don't talk about football -- a lot of things I know some people don't like that. But most people the because that's what some people listen to so give us a call 585437482 or the email address again web radio. At patriots dot com. Guys there's also another little interest in today out there -- speaking of free agency. From the Tennessean newspaper this past week in the headline was pac man pushing for moved to Dallas. But in net. Story -- it says that the patriots were among a half dozen other teams who may be interested in the serves as of that. Suspended cornerback slash kick returner Williams -- line up that hypocrite. I I just count me among noticed that the line that can't wait to hear Freddie parish I -- the."

Play from 4:13[4:13]" I want him talk about that one I I'm not. I'm not to pac man Jones but -- I don't we don't think we don't I don't so there is Jones has become a better quarterbacks -- stopped playing people pretend he's in April it was a great. We return man may be the best in the game -- you know with and it's been asked -- young corner. It's like all of a sudden people -- obviously in the normally pac man Jones we have another pro -- right now and since he played the better he's an order to make that argument the Lito Sheppard in fort -- Angelo hall I mean I'm not sure those guys are as good in my people's better argument that I -- you can't make guidance the -- you know I'm all."

Play from 4:51[4:51]" For these kinds of guys I always say give me talent now Dallas loses first destination I don't want the cowboys to get slash title kinda a person pac man Jones is I don't even want -- week. I only while -- ball -- but this guy he's one of those guys have a little or no at a place six to eight games he's going to get suspended because he's never going to learn we found that out he had the the thing with a good cellular rented out he's going to strip club I mean I'm up to. You know he was talking about how he's going to change his ways and Goodell had and followed. The night before he had NFL security people they know exactly where it was -- to right right and this is that guy that never going to get it and I think. You hurt your franchise that bring them especially teams like Dallas to New England you have a teal you have a re Indy -- now we want to add pac man Jones that Nixon don't tell me -- Or they brought in Corey deal they brought in -- those guys were never suspended for over a year in the NFL it's a different story at worst those guys were long removed from some of their worst progression he continues to just it's a cycle with him he doesn't learn anything even lately I was told by red. He did a radio interview worried joked that he's now going to at trouble because he doesn't go to strip clubs anymore he had a poll put in in his house we can just have the monitors out. I mean. Getting your trying to beg and plead your way back into the league -- this is the that you're saying you know ultimately I want to play in Dallas will do you right. You play -- what I eat it like. He's he's he's due to the raiders are some crappy team that I'd like you want to go to a global competitor in the and one of the biggest market in the NFL that's that's awful my evaluation maybe a lot of goal rubber Webber wants the idea I just point."

Play from 6:33[6:33]" That's a good point he should be dictating all winners going but it just that's another example -- doesn't get it and I'm not sure you know it it did say that the patriots were there they were one of a handful of teams in his 45 teams listed in it says. Have expressed some interest right okay now that might just be the patriots offense ability yet to want to -- Belichick -- He going to be our -- exactly and that you did you show some interest. But that doesn't mean you want to bright and you don't you don't draft researching your thinking of a team that could get a quarter won't for. Who knows what that is maybe as simple as that and it and if that's the case then you know we can really be interest they're probably right to your tires and make sure that. You know they've they've explored dollar option I -- I hope for the sake of the organization that see things differently because. I have to think I'm tired I'm well I wanted to ask I think I want to that's what I wanted to ask -- to. Now I know bill makes all the football decisions but it is situation like this you have to put this through the -- I think that -- it's always a question and I think they'd put their foot down. And I think part of that would be. The current on going by deep issue in that. Too many a lot of Clark you're you're coming off of a bit. You know they're coming off a great season and there's no black marks anywhere then maybe mister Kraft is okay but you know -- put yourself on the line but I think this is one. I don't -- if you were now."

Play from 7:55[7:55]" It if you were mister -- could you as bill. Can we went without the guy and the answer is yes you'd like you don't need pack in I don't wish to me that's the one of the biggest issues even if you're in a league where. You know talent trumps all well. I just don't think he's the difference in winning and losing and he's a good ripped a very good returner and maybe go play corner for you. -- and that he's not Deion Sanders he's not like and he got a -- got our you gotta. You know look that he's taken a year off right even eat whatever he was before it's going to take awhile to get back pedal and let's be out of uses humor that I was working out lower today either."

Play from 8:30[8:30]" I was not going to terrible happened yesterday and I just looked at -- I think our guys don't deserve a second chance at a certain people do certain things you know. Knocked it into individuals but you know in my in my mind for me personally it's tasteful. You know the things that he did I don't know west health -- in that department but you know a guy who. Forget about that the fact that he's out a strip joints whatever I mean I don't problems that you might live a life that maybe is different and -- that's fine but. When you're involved with -- match and how they're different than ours but that is a women's head against the -- the talk much of what you do. And the crowd that you're running and that's each as well I'm talking marketing or if I die you know you know match in women's heads and at that stage and things like that in you know allegedly ordering. The other guy who did the bouncer who was paralyzed result that shot was I mean. Packed it was largely responsible for that. Not what I don't think that that guy deserves attention I don't he's had multiple chances you know I don't think he deserves a -- and she show and I've -- an XY and Z. I I've been a -- that's a chance and you blew that of that is a second chance in my mind."

Play from 9:42[9:42]" When you're trying to get back into a league improve that your changed human being he's done nothing of the such now. As as we said that the report in the Tennessean which was later picked up by the Boston Herald reported yesterday. The report is that the patriots were among a handful of things we don't know we don't have any knowledge for certain that they did make any calls are made any sort of oh yeah I sand them there may be no interest at all it may have been just kinda look and in -- he went through idea doing the -- reinstated right but. Let's -- it is true let's assume that. They are interest and maybe getting him making a trade or whatever it. Did you guys notice any sort of troubling trend here -- mean a few years ago. You would never considered a guy even even near his stature in terms of his off the field troubles. But then they pick about it like Corey Dillon I think they would consider the guy five years ago ten years ago -- I mean in the beginning of the and in the beginning of him that are I think that was a media creation a PR thing I think there all along if there's a player available he considers them. -- only he's changed one bit I think it's an interception and the image that's been portrayed that history we've said many times the --"

Play from 10:54[10:54]" Type of player is a player that's going to help them win that's what a patriot title players you can call all the white fullback patriot type of players all you want. If a guy that helped the patriots win in Bilbao -- with those are patriots players border -- you guys getting a sense that there's a little bit of desperation and some of the moves they made over the past couple years you know they've they've they've won Super Bowls and then all of a sudden they lost an AFC championship game they lost the Super Bowl. And now they're trying to just get any player at all now not an automatic back I don't think that the -- pac man Jones I think it would be somewhat stupid like Jerry Jones or -- who would make that idiotic move. I think what Indian Paul were -- and I think they're just doing their due diligence they probably placed a phone call probably the extent of the and I don't -- right it could have been just for draft purposes like what T you know trying to find out what teams might pick him up look at -- quarters blah blah blah. But I just I don't see any way that the patriots sign and I agree with these two I think mister Kraft wouldn't say not not the time and on top of all of the."

Play from 11:55[11:55]" The stuff with the off field issues. You have to be concerned with if you do sign this guy let's say the talks on you know outdoors as you know we had talks -- he -- whatever. Even if he can can be convinced the ball that you you have that expansion hang in albeit at that most of -- you know. When Corey when I hadn't talked Corey Dillon the worst -- could have happened is Corey Dillon didn't fit in didn't work out and you like some money. If this guy doesn't work out you're going to lose the -- and Brett and and probably for life because he's not in I don't know how much more is he's going to let you end up losing. You know IT guy I think that the risk there is a much greater than it was with moss and with with Dillon and you know what. I'm not sure I would agree with most fans of how well worked out in violence case. In the first year was obviously a home run -- the second two years he was a problem -- an -- that was you know that was part of the patriots problems quite frankly in."

Play from 12:50[12:50]" And those guys in the stands don't want to admit it. Yeah for 1600 yards of friction and I'm just saying even when you walk to the locker room you could tell it was a Corey Dillon affection. And there was some there was players I'd never even saw him in Iraq was like walking past them like they -- they when he look at it and so I agree I don't think he was as well liked. I think guys like Bruschi just like -- if you could help help us win you will put up with -- I don't think Corey deal was great locker person whatever it is wily ways that the comparison with moss everybody did seem to like yeah yeah we -- that was a huge difference. And I mean with the Dylan thing it just goes back the way he handled himself I think. You know you're right Tom and that I think they -- in and help them but. You know the the children -- worries like staring him down and basically taken a fight with a media member I just think there's probably 75% a locker in the goes. What are you doing what comes of that what's the point you know and I mean like what are we in high school you're gonna give him up in the middle like right races this is -- that is not -- how you handle right. So that's what I think hey Mike what's that in the back I'm I'm Barry switzer and Super Bowl thirty. Looks the same right call plays a yeah there -- kids and firearms I've. Cornerback isn't the only spot obviously where this team needs help this year particularly in credence here in the draft linebacker. Is the other position where we've we've been talking about for the last few weeks that they may need some help last week they had that Kidd Adam Seward. In Asia Asia and FL network Warrick Dunn signing with the -- showed up and play with him oddity ran by Adams award like he was. What happened there because IR -- were AF was bulls are reporting that they were signing him to an offer sheet and that has not been. Announced or in any way you know my -- questions that sort of drop off the radar screen citizens. And -- well."

Play from 14:38[14:38]" You know it's funny because. I want to at some point five out of seven years I'm like that the patriots have signed restricted free agent to prophecy -- in -- more often than not they. They do take a shot at at -- restricted free agent so. To have pet to have reports that they actually talked to this guy and and that they didn't -- not proceed. Kind of strange to me. I just found -- like and I didn't hear the reports maybe it's a bad thread on message -- that's been but just the station like WAS is not like. You know they're not reporting news stories like everybody else the end radio lord W I hope. Rightly be -- and in his agent is his agent and he told them factually they're signing him to offer sheet. And that you know he had an inside in post specifically you know 100."

Play from 15:25[15:25]" Percent -- that we haven't heard anything out since but. If that are removed and still be in trouble. When Brady or patriots dot com is the email address 58543 -- real quick little right to his phone number yet we don't want jump so there's any of those emails he -- them. -- like you never know that's the last thing we do have an email about Adam Seward from Colin doesn't say words from. It just wanted to throw the ESPN's scouting report for Adam Seward. He has good speed agility and range he has a high motor player who gives maximum effort on every snap and I noticed since Nixon tracks like well. He's an aggressive take on player who attacks downhill and seems to relish collisions with -- back -- car and -- goes on to say what I like is that it seems he needs a swift kick in the butt to get into the Mike Vrabel pick. Pick up that we want to be his versatility that he shows playing all three spots and -- to make him a contributor for the future my only question you guys today. Is what happened to Clark Haggans he's created Edberg there was a lot of talk about him possibly coming here that he did at the park that he likes as the it seems like Jesus respectively under the belt mentality the part of a hundred point especially for years Italy yet -- he's a rookie Ian he's done nothing. What do -- what is it that I mean 'cause I only get anybody's and I think he's a batting could actually do something I think he has the skill but. I certainly don't think he's going to -- sixteen games next year."

Play from 16:51[16:51]" Now and I think that you should be fighter if you use the work -- order for one player from here on I mean I'm just -- a go go look at all the draft. Things any white guy isn't as high motor. Black people don't have I've ever if I mean come -- but not outwardly and yet I'd like them to bring him -- he Woody's got I wouldn't. I would just temper expectations that -- future expectations and -- I got. There's a specialty I different we have here woods yet how different is Adam Stewart from Pierre but that -- to start off the special teams guy and he failed to get out of them as crazy he's not going to."

Play from 17:25[17:25]" Austria is a better story because -- what he's coming in but and again inside most of the thing. And I wondered the same thing you -- how much they you know if they think anything of those guys -- appear woods but only in championship games you know put out I'm wondering you know okay. I just get finished in the mail bag and and one of the things was about the -- These and the and I'd linebackers are apathetic. Depending on I think it all depends right now I mean if he comes back and you're probably going to have what you and he's with -- okay but he doesn't come back. You know I think you're probably looking -- scenario with Tom was back in side. And yet Thomas and Bruschi inside Vrabel and someone outside now that someone here would. Plane Tully Banta-Cain -- two years ago. I don't know where starter on the team is -- the earlier but the moral I -- the biggest question Mark anyway. And you know I I don't know how much they think appeal if they think he's ready for a bigger role. Maybe they get in position is we have been talking the last couple of drafting a guy like Vernon Golston I don't I don't know you know I don't know what the early. -- does now yeah and it's I want him go on number one. Boy is his stock risen people like mussina -- gone by he runs a couple didn't want to block and I guess he had really really pro pro day as well. Well that Higgins got it with that we mentioned before that he was the name that seemed to come up a lot. He's I always look at guys that have been around the league you know. 67 years eight years -- bill targets and think that you know ties with 34 experience yeah that's why pagan football -- in the -- and I don't have any -- it was a free -- team -- from Pittsburgh this -- the -- at the -- But I was thinking 3 he turned out we created now I haven't heard dame really anywhere near the guy is victor hobson. Right we haven't really heard much about I don't I don't put any anything have what those guys over the weekend and is about hobson. -- I've seen linked to the giants were interested. And they're going to need linebackers in the orient and has also been linked to the patriots and browns and you wonder -- that is -- ordered the plot and in general just roared out there that he could be a bit or was he actually linked. And I. Try to contact his --"

Play from 19:47[19:47]" And the weight and return from that. -- I've been on the transactions and I am in anything with pagan or hobson or. Or any of those other linebackers that we mention we talked about the draft a second ago and -- from -- country wants to know. The more time goes by the more McFadden Darren McFadden running back and Matt Ryan quarterbacks seem to be slipping as a fan of trading down from the seven spot regardless of who also us. Players slipping to seventh would most likely get someone to trade up. With new -- I know it's more likely to take Ryan -- of people seven there'd be a few teams looking to get ahead of Baltimore in the eight spot -- about that."

Play from 20:31[20:31]" I would say make that I would still say McFadden. -- once he starts to drop I'm sure a lot of teams had him number one or number two on the board. Leased circuit that seven cannery in people's currency values that are in. I don't think I think there's some teams like Ryan but I think there's some that really could careless -- he's not a can't miss prospect but. There's also the quarterback issue quarterbacks are always overvalued and somebody sees them and all of a sudden says he can be our starter for ten years. Maybe they they throw little more in the pot to get there and try to that would talk about them slipping it at state figures had milk pipers ranking went by and McFadden was one and Ryan. So I don't know how much you know I'm not in diapers. God because he makes it seems like everybody else at all mean to face there'll -- I think anybody knew what they were doing if you were different -- Now at BC hasn't had approached -- yet right -- eighteen death row because I saw a week from today as my boys of the over there is part of that too that's what. -- of our guys have now that's slighted at that hadn't happened -- is why I knew what had happened yet because of that. Now would you have for boys this year in the draft and no it really ever running back -- excellent but he's not an NFL player. He's just he's he's big and he's power back in the long enough -- like you wouldn't -- that level that you get her. Maurice Murray Omar -- tape on him. I'm not a -- he's not -- the united it was at the cub was even invited the common -- also -- in a last week in you mentioned you were trying to get Don banks of aside help you guys out can you elaborate it would we tried -- he could not do it because. He has a contractual obligations with his employer that will not allow him move try to get into right for PFW my and he will not -- to do that because. His Anders well model I'll do it. So unfortunately."

Play from 22:23[22:23]" It that is open is status quo as it was only any ticket of your lunch ornery and yet. You'd rather live a free -- not know we got and to sank a good. Okay how he writes and I've been listen you guys for about a year now figure it's time for me to do my part by you guys once this Tuesday yes I love you nick nick from Hawaii I'm a freshman at the university of why so long as it's not a fortune I'm -- to pay for I'll be happy to give the info needed to -- for for -- order I don't want to get up at 5:30 AM and make a long distance call it backed me and let's make this happen area get back -- make it happen. Arguments spreadsheet and people go to that school. What is nice to analyze the only 5000. I need -- with the public I've been. Once hobby doing a draft prospect now want to know something in -- who will to school and a lot of schools like in the first -- as like it the enrollment and -- Yeah today like four times over how many people -- MIT Hawaii I think was one that I was like I might be."

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