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[1:19]" And welcome to another decent PFW progress it is Tuesday April 8. And a break first our fearless leader is there isn't. Other -- are lower 2000 and England's innings and Guzman that."
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[1:59]" Back from and yeah it is staff writer how cute on our I want we -- imagine the crap. I want might be healed now a bad week for now that was a primitive of weeks ago yet now he's on he's he's now. He's out yeah out or weak in the all got a one we've been. Little tackling that always really any in any Aggies -- and in his case it was Aram and I whatever argument happens to go one on the -- in the -- union so I -- and that's all that I -- to get up the stack up -- but as we -- that's right -- we have -- talked about on the -- today at -- what's the big -- other people getting things don't go out -- but exactly -- in his -- at all today -- been out here when you did mention that -- was -- in -- are. Our -- on there. That's when things get -- Francisco but you know I thought that -- briefly. Very kind of you okay not to -- out out of him eyelash that it taking a presence -- I felt it import. Now of course now a little bit undermanned opponent yet but I'll will be fine there's nobody in between Tom and unlike last time on the last time I was than I Williams would pocket I have enough so. I'm a little worried about that you know have an -- and well ordered forty -- but. That's they got -- cannot I know between me and many Gary I don't think you're one of buses I about a cup does those those school if you have to will -- the prep school. -- the streets of Greenwich Connecticut lefties. I think that was from Greenwich Connecticut I went to school with some kids who. May have come from the rich mean streak of grant well I didn't even know that I would say as the rest you know I already know I notre note let's talk about. Aside from Indies colonoscopy and Fred I guess we just -- suspension for this week that's right and and Gary obviously been suspended to as many -- in the house today just on -- Bob you know I don't know if you know with the Red Sox opened yet again maybe -- Red Sox home opener at --"
[4:15]" And actually had to work by him yeah and doings with the patriots that the Red Sox home opener will get to that. All he wanted to want to briefly. It's such an element of that -- into the patriots and in courts as for the victor -- the probably the news of the yeah of the moment and also the probably would know that being one a and one B the last time we're on the air but shortly after we get off the -- the NFL released the pre season schedule so we have a little bit of -- that is the way. The start of our season is going to be like. So we've got that the -- and signing to an injury updates never got to last week and certain players Tom Brady Benjamin Watson. And some other news that will get -- as well. I you can as always join in the discussion via email web radio patriots dot com is the address if you like to join in anything we're talking about footballer otherwise. And if you like -- call 585437482 is the number. Guys that start off with like that that the did the big news item is the signing of linebacker victor hobson formally of the jets. Aren't you fewest of prizes Iannetta took this long for this to happen it's been rumored for awhile. There was talk about Clark Higgins went -- signing with Arizona a week ago but. The guy's been out there the jets haven't been beating down his door again and back didn't seem like any other teams are clamoring again and I didn't have to take till April 7 for the that'd be made official what do you think."
[5:44]" My -- would be that he wasn't looking to sign a one year deal anywhere in really realize that that's the only option that he had. So I don't have any knowledge and -- about -- my guesses you know here we are you know in early April a couple of weeks before the draft. Anybody that maybe expressed interest in in him early in free agency probably wasn't looking to invest any money in him or any years old. He he probably was balking at that figuring am -- I've got a lot of starting experience under my belt I can play in the league. I can get more than that -- and all of a sudden get pushed around the shell of -- you don't want to wait till after the draft at least a lot of it and teams can potentially fill more holes through the draft and that evening usual smaller. You know school team to pick from. Patriots still went to the game one year deal so he's here it's a minute -- a guy that I think we all thought Tom had mentioned him along time ago as a guide it would make a lot of sense and and we all agreed in you know argued that played in the 34. Can play inside and outside although we've played mostly outside there I think his eyes. Is more conducive to play in -- on his own -- all -- speed -- ability. It's so I think you know out on the surface makes a lot of sense but I don't take it you know. Sort of stop the press has -- I mean it's good solid nine."
[7:05]" There was an Ernie trepidation about his play. I went right down you know I have no I mean. Well no one -- wanted to -- it's amazing that that's right that's right victor hobson knocked off Michigan and with the jets drafted him then BJ ask you the Michigan full back there -- that your. I mean my friends were to laugh at port -- fans. My approach -- jet he has got -- I mean they have. -- hatred for all. You know -- not going to pretend that he'd every play that he's played I don't think it's a bad citing that he bumper about the he could be a rotational guy -- society had flexibility to play outside. But it just going from over the jet people like talked to a team they just they have a real hatred for. So you have to wonder with that coupled with no he wanted and I mean obviously nobody wanted to -- like you've got Eric he's been around. He's been out there are you know what I at DePaul they side a little wonder deal Arthur a lot -- teams -- the patriots out there that could use a guy who's played in the league in. -- that's what I was thinking I mean. But maybe the other team like they -- grammar errors overall. Were offered civil offered similar body and ops of like a ball club with a sign for that money for a year at political -- with the patriots right. Try to go somewhere where there anything in chance."
[8:20]" I really think that that would knock down to is that and I am not trying to doctor guy -- like actors I don't know for sure and I haven't talked to his agent or anything like that but. It doesn't seem to -- if there was a whole lot of interest in the guy. Because he signs a one year and scorn on the circumstantial one record deal. In April. Tells me that. If he's not looking to rehab his career -- this -- a lot of guys are one year deal he doesn't seem to volunteer any of those reasons of -- having his career ruler Andre trying to come up from often injury improve it is healthy any of those things."
[8:51]" And it's a surprising it if you just look at his numbers he came in in 2003 like you said out of Michigan. Only started one game for the jets efforts here but since then he's been pretty steady for -- started. Ten games and -- for all sixteen you know five all sixteen again in 614 games last season. His best season was was no sixty had a hundred total tackles 66 solo we had six sacks an interception couple passes defensed he you know it seemed like he had a good -- he had a good idea and for whatever reason he took a step back last year I didn't play wasn't anywhere near as productive -- only 62 total tackles 48 solos in -- he had eighty so for a couple years there it looked like he was trending upward."
[9:31]" But and I think he'll be a better fit I had one of the reasons the jet may have kept them outside. Is because they have a little pass rush. Maybe -- thought all we got a couple guys have decided to leave this guy out here -- a little pressure on the quarterback I don't know exactly what the reason but I mean this guy he's huge ops and out of -- I mean 46 -- 252 that's pretty come yet it has it there all -- he's he's a machine when you look at it and I think he has the size to take on the blockers and you know we said it's it's no risk if you if he becomes a rotational guy I would say how it Bruschi you've won if he doesn't really do anything. You know what if you lost."
[10:10]" You know I and I agree with -- a reason for probably you know you yell at you look at their -- now with the jets had in. They have guys that like -- Vilma they probably didn't know exactly what to do -- and you know that that's further illustrated by the fact that eventually traded him. Because they probably didn't feel like they can play him out I'd probably like he had to go in I didn't. Enemy draft David Harris who I think inside guy with his eyes oh -- maybe they just you know for lack of anywhere really put them. You know he he gets -- I think he's too short. To really play out there a lot of outside rush linebackers you know. They usually they're pretty -- cold and it's pretty small for that role but you know he's six. He's yesterday all the Aggies holiday and not an option but. I think you look at guys like Mike Vrabel Terrell Suggs inning guys that have that fill those kinds a role Shawne Merriman to markets where. They're bigger guy I think for the most part. I'm not -- early weight wise although ops and that's rocks in pockets and fifty plus. And I think he's a little short Padilla outside in Toms right I think he's better suited to take on blocks in side in and play in the right."
[11:23]" And you mentioned -- and talk into the jet people that's kinda what I got is that you know how cold -- here he's not a terrible player. But he never really been the player you think he's going to be every year -- only and he always makes fun problem a lot of times. I kinda got the that's that's what he was in New York where -- got the worst player on the field but. They expected so much more audible and he's not making the plays that you would expect them to make you don't let me like that type of player. Well at least I mean in Coleman's. Defense if you wanted to make it a case for him not. Putting up the numbers are doing what you thought he might have gone. He comes in the second game -- record goes down with that hip injury that one could argue he's never been the same after that although he hasn't been awful."
[12:04]" Yeah and I would argue that that's the reason because I think that he -- of his explosiveness and as I've just pointed out he's not the biggest guy. So I think if you take away what I think was his biggest attribute which quickness. I think -- you know it certainly understandable that think that a fractured hip that may be a fraction of a second away from his explosiveness and I think that's that's."
[12:25]" That part of why he never really. Was what we thought he was going to be but like you said and -- case. He's not coming off a major diet and -- I don't care about it -- the one word about it members at Michigan the reason I like a club in the NFL. Him what I thought that by Jeff the end friends they said the same thing -- all. Very well in like the open field that. And I know he had that problem Michigan so maybe being that inside linebacker -- don't have to worry you -- don't have to take much from you know kind of -- that -- stuff that guy -- and that type of stuff and you can be a little bit smaller at least -- not smaller -- to -- you know small but -- in the patriots have never really needed fast -- you don't I don't like they'd never have the -- the -- the -- one -- I think he'll be fine."
[13:13]" And even you know I'm not sure body you know his aptitude for the you know for the for the you know whatever but I don't know the guy at all and I don't know what his reputation in that regard but. He does have the the familiarity with the system which is going to put him a wake up on a lot of the guys they brought in you know. You know money buys old for example is a guy who I think they tried to kind of feed in to -- inside role. And -- and who can probably not having the right physical attributes he didn't have that the knowledge right. And I think ops welcome and with a big leg up in that regard have a -- years with Mangini always saint ourselves. Our web radio a patriots are com's email address if you like to write into us. 58543748 through the phone number if you'd like to call like John in LA did jump up."
[13:59]" Good or write about it happened early region and I'm eager for. -- and the fact that in that one year contract that inspire confidence that we found you know. It able -- guys and now I would be more excited about and are hopeful."
[14:29]" Well I mean I think get the look at it you know on face value he's he's not an awful player. He's he was a guy who's been available like we studies nobody knocked down his door to try to get him. But he's he's not awful and he's coming here to fill a -- there's obviously in the -- middle linebacker not going to go to the -- regular guy who can help Bruschi -- little fresher at the end of the year that he got your money's worth right -- point 828 years old he he's pretty -- like we said he's only -- that handful of games time is two -- last three years yet he played all sixteen -- three years narrow correct."
[15:05]" But there's an early at fourteen last year I thought about it -- played all XT. Right to the yes that's on our guest played all played all sixteen I mean I think it I'd look I think. I think Tom is absolutely right ET you put him next Bruschi and analyze -- keep Crable and in Thomas on the out side. It out comes back you have that little rotation -- in I didn't and it gets on you I don't think you need this got to make the probable and I really too good to be honest with you. I think that it I'd part is becoming a little bit less because I think he'd he'd deal with more more special as Asian more sub packages and stuff like that I think he's a -- fill them those. You know Tom Tom I would talk about the yesterday right after they they signed him. Remember the game in November of all sick here. And -- it was a pretty active part of the -- treatments that day and that's why I think with Tom and I anyway. At the I was a little bit better than it maybe that he was because I thought he was really active that day. And then did a lot of nice things in 1980 you can watch in the money games you know like well that's not the guy that we thought. Hill knowledge of them versatility and -- to have some depth and I think that's you know that's real short and and."
[16:19]" And being able leave Thomas on the outside yet -- because you don't have the flexibility to have to do either either -- Indies here but I think we saw late in the year when Thomas on the outside and he was much more effective that he is the sabres Crable you know they can play in side sure they want to money he may have play."
[16:37]" the best team. Of any patriot in the -- I'd I'd I agree with that. You know and it kind of went largely unnoticed because of the waiting game and and everything but he play he was very active he would -- the game right -- and I think that's kinda what. We'll open you know one you know type -- Colton what you're expecting that I think most people are expected with the with the AD yeah and you know like we said he's most likely not going to make the pro ball hobson. But he gives you that extra rotational guy he's a little bit younger fresher. You know maybe he starts a few games -- maybe he's the starter sale comes and -- maybe you don't like right at point eight. Yeah but he's in his prime you with the theoretically so if for if you're gonna get the best out of now's the time again it and you said he's been in the reports that the majority -- few years not going to be as. As much of a week for him to try to to learn the system so. John any other thoughts on what's happening abusing the pre season schedule what do you think."
[17:33]" I. I I've seen that pre season schedule and it and been -- but I don't care."
[17:39]" I pretty well we -- Has not been taken totally care because it because it affects where we -- we -- a writer -- I have to believe me we wouldn't care at all."
[17:51]" I wanted to say that the -- matchups but Wes Welker. Thing injured -- Herbert loudly."
[17:57]" Last Thursday -- they asked they had found with a which is not say this I was staying within just right on the show."
[18:03]" I think Welker is that a key opportunity dealt because we're capitalists saying if you want it Wes Welker work she got out of a horse track and in jockey aha. He really come back with security that -- the -- should really go back and look at it --"
[18:16]" I think it. You know and -- where it's ten many guys that the already -- your eagles on the front page on. If I'm quick question for what the mood out there in LA like with the passing of Charlton has. -- I think -- how is that on the top of the unconscious. A man I have -- him to talk with Tom and I am in the Hollywood industry I just wanted to get his reaction to something that's top of the news in and I ordered the callers and yet about the pretty well I would Charles -- has did you out of our right now. Comment I'll (%expletive) everybody off originally we don't need your help I yeah I kinda had."
[19:11]" You really really up to stop like you just got to all the time there there's going to Williams that. -- good good -- And square how to stop what they are smart person talks here in the humiliating. It's humiliating that you. I know you're doing but it is the least of the evils that are out there as far as -- not -- should be a lot actually he's -- once it's. Exactly eastern. Hollywood wing -- we discussed as a Republican what he's a double. And always have been always will be don't have there and watch it or not it I'm not a Republican I'm an independent thank you hear it. I and these are pleased I. Justin thanks for the."
[20:07]" I -- that when one on me. That little altercation that. It was a -- tickets and then that was on I don't I don't agree at there was no swearing -- in my -- and -- You know it's definitely flavor of the month -- a two out out. -- let's go to the in progress in box for Caron. In Ireland are good friend Karen has been writing a lot lately he has a question about the victor -- signing he says hate -- surfer groupies. With the addition of hobson -- American to the line Betancourt you think -- have any effect on the patriots using a backer early in the draft. I know Robson is in the long term answer to the -- problems but do you think bill would hold out. For one more year on picking a linebacker in the first round possibly for laryngitis a -- Lugo having -- that. I really do like Keith rivers and hope that the patriots choose him he has excellent speed for a linebacker will give us the athleticism we so desperately need when you."
[21:03]" Com wolf first model -- changes their draft plans one bit but I agree a thousand daylight Keith rivers are drafted Keith rivers is -- second thing uses. He must be expected the patriots have a tough year fear you want to be a mile -- those puzzles are. Those guys and gentler knighted and play well it is everyone Alabama but still he'll go out have a good year. Those guys are top fifteen pick analysts the patriots makes -- I'd trade. That's going to be in position to get them so. I think if they think rivers is is a guy that can play that's a definite possibility that it -- the closer we get the draft it's more more likely that goal of not going to be on the board. It looks like he's really -- an aria at he's going to be a top five pick. And I do look at where were they going to go I think al is the best player of the draft I don't think he's going to be there so you talk -- Dorsey. I don't know if you take the second best defensive tackle all the money you have invested so you know I think rivers distinct possibility if they like him."
[22:00]" I I think I'd like to tape -- when I saw -- I I didn't who guided to and I think that the point that Tommy that I that I really agree with it. Whatever they have for their valuations. They're going to stick with and and that you know people miss date it all the time -- they -- they don't care about national you know positional needs in what -- they do they absolutely do. But they -- the aboard. And it might be different than yours or mine -- in any angles or the Baltimore Ravens or any other team. And in people can use that money -- picked the saints eat -- terrible positions how do you now. You don't know how the board respect that might have been -- played the highest player on the board at the position that they wanted to. Break in I think I can say that miles will names. We heard that. Last year player got drafted in the second round they have listeners are top undrafted free agent. Yeah so yeah and it got the perfect way to put it that's that'll -- drafted by another yeah that my other secrets in the second round button who was -- on the patriot -- we heard this. Not even as a priority free agent nodded not even as a draft eligible well and I was told later that may have been a stretch but not too far from stretch and what about so at the very worst like a late round yet maybe that's that's -- tickets that are. So I mean that that doesn't mean that they they wouldn't have targeted that position or. That they didn't know. You know they didn't like that place right now to me a hundred -- magic Ellis. For example. It's it's it's going to be because they think that he is. The best player that day you know at a position you know they might have Matt Ryan is the best player available but they're not going to take a -- right. You know in right -- their limitations they won't take you know in my opinion it wouldn't take -- quarterback. And you know at number seven I don't think they'll take a running back at number seven I don't think they'll take you know. -- data to nick -- you know gives it all falls there -- I don't think they'll I don't think they'll take it right back but I was going to south of the ticket -- like no actually you know but if -- I think he's too good you know exactly so -- you know. And you know you mentioned that. I think it's a little bit of a misnomer that they don't pick by need they do pick by need but they stacked the board -- and -- has vertically and horizontally right and they try to stick with that. And it's funny you mentioned about them that player who was draft and second round who wasn't really that high on their board. One of the a recent interview with Thomas Demitra who used to be your college scouting director for the -- GM the falcons he was telling."
[24:39]" A reporter who covers NFL. That one of the things he learned when he when he left there when things still take away from here is that. You have to you have to do those things you have to rank your board the way you see it for your system and not worry about what anyone else's doing. Because an even if that means just the opposite whether you have when you have a guy ranked really high. That everyone else in the league might think at. He's not really going to you know pan out to anything and you know -- you'll get him in the seventh round assignments have created if you think he's a second third maybe even you know low first round guy. And you think he's perfect for your system you have to. Put him there and you gotta take him that's what you're saying."