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[1:49]" come back to another edition of PFW progress it is Thursday April 10. There is no -- curse though today he is still are serving his suspension for suspending Tom it's -- half but this is. A momentous occasion today fellas -- you know sitting in the host chair Paul Perillo editor PFW heads that credit Tom Casale. In the studio our big -- angered verdict he producing behind the glass forest. This is going to be one of the funniest most outrageous topics we've ever covered on this show. Can't wait to get through it -- we got down here about 1015 minutes early. Course that wasn't the prep for the show but we knew once was and it and it's so in today but -- and -- chime in via email earlier today about this topic which we we we can't wait to get through and we know summer fans -- started emailing in about it. The patriots have made it to South Park. That -- at at at big time bigger than you can imagine if this was it again if you haven't seen last night South Park episode there are many ways you can find on the Internet particularly I think our control one of the 150 times Comedy Central plays of the day -- right and I it is a must Ian -- Correct me from wrong there but we might have them to -- and -- maybe later on in the show yeah."
[3:10]" You think people and -- because you haven't being taught how to eat at ready. Like people like because we eat out ten and because they on -- a bill -- yeah. He finds thirty given how -- it and even got caught cheating yeah I know they can't build yeah. -- out of Communist you know may have gotten. I don't want to be called the she'd know -- a cheat and out at Yankee if you cheat and sixteen yes --"
[3:51]" Just -- the music and about -- where it's all dramatic and I don't but what you ask that question and then I mean you know. You know what you try to teach you know let's -- the moral of the story is -- That price and it was it took me awhile and I couldn't -- going to name -- you when they're in the form that the the movie that they were trying to move on the show and it you know at Edward James almost as -- delete an opportunity to there. Eric cartman is it if you haven't seen this episode you guys did you guys -- you have to find a way to watch it. Either if you have a TV yard -- and I go online and I hold off might be our. Who watch it online at its that's probably the easiest way to go you can find it very easily it's hilarious that pro football talk on the ball up on it -- the right. So if you want to talk about that or any other regular football related stuff and we got a few other things I just won't talk while the -- web radio patriots dot com is our email address has always and you can call us as well five 585437482 is the phone number. Today's another momentous occasion fellas you know what happened two years ago today and -- that are April 10. You've got hired to -- I started my first day here is my two year anniversary of you know that you guys. I just guessed by the way he was violent over the if it. Accolades come rushing in any time and his time. United change lasts forever when you guys -- you know okay so it. And here's where where comic presence -- Your seniors they're naturally and I got a hell is going I have bad news for your apparently when you start your fourth year you take a pay cut for them. Yeah I don't I don't have any employer now at that come directly out of the PFW budget which Tom -- there is -- so but it's also moment has 'cause I I've been told by the source. That lower Burress is going to make an appearance the on the show on a lot of our fans are reports that in the I don't know well you'll see NC a little while it will it will really that's that you film I think that might dispute and -- gets fired. And teaming up. Well you just have to -- NC. It's it's sort of its own you know it's all good natured -- and Shula and but anyway and --"
[6:16]" Market I -- I am curious disease and we hadn't gotten a lot of emails fully team down you -- that we had a couple. Yeah we had one yet at least once so far and -- the reaction because it was very very funny it was clever it was it was well. Well done over the top oh no what I'll say courses they're taking shots and I mean I I'm -- You know if everybody take in the humorous light that it it was meant to be I would hope that they do it if you don't you probably have a problem taking an elementary exactly -- taken too seriously we we potentially. Are affected by the helluva lot more in due course the minute this one really bad and you know it -- the franchise in it. That could have repercussions to a personal right. And that I mean sports he can't take it I mean I know how much a lot of lot of you love the patriots that's fine I mean we all. We all love teams but he can't go to the point where cart to -- like make you lose sleep at eight that that's little bit too far a cartoon especially with with. I'd -- well."
[7:21]" Yeah yeah."
[7:23]" But yeah yeah you have to take it in the spirit that it intended these guys. I had no holds Barton nobody is secret that well which is that that's what make that the beauty of that show that. It's like we're talking about the in the office earlier if they. Had one particular group or or certain individuals who were off limits to their humor and Nate made fun of her -- elsewhere they do. He -- there what a hypocrite they don't go after it but it but they go after everybody. Are -- apartment pretending he was Hitler he was right to exterminate the juke right and you have to have a sense of humor about the thing."
[7:55]" But I wanted to and I will say though is that really shows how far this is calm her. Because the -- to obviously isn't going to do something about pac man Jones because not enough people to understand what they're talking about right it was a -- national and does this is cubs so far that they thought they could do a whole episode based on it because everyone had heard about it -- what's going on yeah who doesn't watch superbowl who hasn't heard about the patriots going on that you know the first team go Eckstein and no. Ones that are regular guys he's now are we all mile wide -- they lost the and it does previous Super Bowl."
[8:28]" It's it's great stuff and where I. I think we're not over selling it because -- I thought it was funny you know on I would hope that and I think our fans anyway I think that might be on people take offense but here's your barometer but I think -- here's your barometer when I came in this morning I know our our webmaster Chris Ferreira. The famous crisper thoughts on I you know he's the biggest homer aside for it -- I turn him and I noticed a huge spark and he's a huge South Park and I know we want him -- return him a -- to do what's our park last night. He wheels -- on his chair. Laughed him before giving -- the words out and so you know at first -- when I found -- they're going to talk about telecheck. I was nickel I don't know I'm going to take this and and he's like after about amenities like he was he was laughing hysterically so if he can think it's funny. You have to take that he can't take it. But it's just today and we had a -- promised to us and lunch arrived right on time for the Broncos in the Bronx came through big time -- thank you crystalline water legend I'm fine thank you very much we're going to read our first email today. From Chris in the Bronx web radio a pitcher's spot -- the address if you like chime in five point 543742 phone number. Hey guys hope once arrived OK yes -- that Cris one question in many parts today I was that a bunch of players here because I respect your opinions really I'd do. And wanted to hear how you rated these guys most of whom seemed to fit in New England to -- player. Please tell me where you would pick them. On behalf of the patriots versus where you'll end up going in the draft makes -- Start with three outside linebackers with payroll Purdue Quentin groves of Auburn. And Darrel Robertson George attack. I would --"
[10:12]" Roles in the second round he won't be there he'll go it is and corral Juan beginning around -- he wanted to give you have to maneuver and the Nadal your way around. -- role. Yeah pride of the beginning of the second round two with. That that's the problem with guys like that like say they stay at seven it's going to be hard to -- the case that case on a roll outs. They'd really like those guys which it would have to try to find a way to get in that area with a going to be drafted it was the other one down there are in Georgia Tech probably a little later and yes. I don't fourth or fifth round area probably. I mean I liked him a little more than that but I agree with Tom I'll try to get it would be where he's going to be draft trying to remember where I saw."
[10:57]" All right I've seen some second -- third you know I've seen them in the fourth as well my direction though he's probably one of those like early second year guys now third -- on Sunday. I kinda liked him I'd like Robertson a little bit I didn't really love April I thought he was little -- you know it's tied it when you're dealing with the patriots and we talked but the in the via the draft podcast yesterday Tom. It is hard because you're dealing with the depth of the big guys in the defense line. Some of them don't translate to know tackle because immaculate bit too tall even at 300 plus pound guys. You know if there are certain height they're more and then then yeah that the nose tackle in and the guys that play and you're dealing with. They're probably not picking up the plate three for an for the patriots but got athletic enough. It in smart enough to play outside linebacker and before you do with a lot of different variables when you talk about the patriots kinda like Robertson is as one of those. Middle round guys maybe third round guy. That didn't like it was much and I grew to -- the best of that trio."
[12:02]" Yeah I mean if you're just looking for a pass rusher. I I don't know well scrolls and Luke -- in the pursuit of the anything you can talk and when you're talking about just getting after the quarterback yeah he would when he's healthy. He he's as good as anybody in the stretch -- got 26 career sacks in college more than long more than Gholston. So -- in the SEC so you're talking about a guy get after the passer. It just like I said. The the patriots. That they actually have a terrible pick this year I think I really do that vehicles on the board. Because a lot of the guys I think that would fit their system would be good picks for them. Are going to go or they normally pick at the end her -- one. And now you -- sudden you don't pick again if you can't make a trade -- the end around to mostly kind of that no man's land. Yeah April according to our current NFL draft scout projected to be a second rounder. Like both you guys he's kinda like client up -- he's one of those late risers and apply it up the boards."
[12:58]" Yeah I'm other linebackers he has Keith rivers USC and Jonathan -- with Vanderbilt -- Depending on who's picked prior to number seven if rivers were there I wouldn't have a problem well too much -- probably take him seventh no now we don't like rivers. And -- does not doubt it would probably a fifth rounder. Top Tom ought to vote Jonathan got into the draft intro which by the way we should applaud him for that the draft preview issue. Yeah -- football weekly there's now available on new fans. On and on line for those of you whoever subscription and if it hasn't arrived even go -- and -- call PF that progress I don't think we -- a tremendous amount of crowing about our newspaper. This particular issue Aaron -- we're not about self -- on an -- every year we promote a hell not not not necessarily the paper but every year to pitch like that -- way. Beat the best issue that we do and and I and I would defy you guys to find a more comprehensive draft. Localized draft I've got out -- obviously nationally you know the pro football weekly guide with Nolan Iraqi those those milk hyper. Those guys -- that did hold draft reliving their business. I'm talking about for the patriots specific needs this draft issue I think are in top draft intro I've not talked about Jonathan Goff as part of that. As -- is probably -- down guy -- solid run stopper maybe kind of attack -- today's NFL but a good football player then and now on the Allentown which is -- fifth round. -- yeah I I agree you know you know maybe a middle of the second -- panic I know you."
[14:35]" If you don't know what happened is he could be this year Brandon -- for yeah Florida who everybody thought -- you like our fourth rounder -- the seventh round I'll be stuck with the chargers special teams gotten. But his lack of speed really hurt him did don't want thought that he could be an every down guy. -- a guy like coffee probably has fourth. Fourth round talent. DB slips in the fifth round but then if teams really have a concern with the speed he could look even further."
[15:01]" I look at him more more and that that that area or the fifth round I know on people have -- and that people blow that. I like him I like the player he's a good head and we talked he's a local guy yeah yep and a little bit about -- story because of he went into through mentally -- mind it -- was great player -- axiom it running back. It does count in Denver's -- is -- rightly it now but in short. And from all accounts he's hard working to hit it good it'd and I don't think you know what was that if you went to Vanderbilt he wasn't there right not the mental -- all the accurate it's a very tough oh he was not. It was it has not you know want to -- Oldest baby -- everything handed to him he he he came office of -- basket -- at the Columbine you know I'm not surprised by a little little little shy. Little camera shy thank you Manny --"
[15:56]" There's a problem he's going to have is that -- today's NFL you have to cover. You have to be able to cover though short to intermediate drag -- everyone's run and and like we don't know we don't work these guys out we don't see too much film is obviously is the scalp. That'll -- the question with him is he going to be a liability. On the field he can't cover at all old if if he's not a liability I think -- usually and a beaten good mid round -- He mentioned golf was a running back in high school Chris also in a -- running backs Cal's Justin Forsett. And Georgia's Thomas Brown and a fall back on which meant a west reduces Christie Wilson to the show. The hell's wrong with the a force that's the guy we really light short compact runner. Force that's actually the reason I didn't think Marshawn Lynch was going to be a great brokers. Would they were both there I just did he much of a drop off would force that payment now obviously he is actually not going to be an every down back in the NFL. But as far as a guy at a pace of draws it basically the Kevin ball roll he's a lot stronger than -- I think he's a guy that in the do things like that I like it in today's NFL you want to dialect at that -- catch passes. Schmidt just a bruiser you know and AZ he's going to be a blocking -- all depends on. Public the company I -- you want to have a blocking back and look back feel if the patriots don't want to have a blocking back that often they have no use for Owen -- not going to do anything he's not going to run the ball -- get -- West Virginia. And brown compared to Lee Evans. -- gets more left town the -- the only comparison they have as the purple white. The -- they're not remotely the same same kind of player is Evans -- weakness is blocking. That's the one that he doesn't do great catch the ball you know we can do a lot different things for you to be Schmidt all he doesn't block he's not going to catch the ball out of the backfield. He's not in the options open up -- run that I played that they did. West Virginia so I think they're two totally different players I think that's where that's what's going to come down to. If they draft him because the -- who would probably battling for roster spot now they want to go more. Maroney and a blocking back are they happy with the way that they have things now so that would be the question. You know with the patriots and that brown I think would be a little later round pick -- a guy who let those Georgia running back sometimes they don't -- great college on the cover of the NFL -- better than advertised."
[18:17]" Great point you know because I originally -- Thomas -- like I don't really love him but you have to you can't dismiss the history there you know -- unbelievable they -- nowhere -- I think you -- pick up in the fifth rounded and in media value and he kind of got based -- they end -- going usually he's younger I don't NFL draft -- had -- brown -- guy and in. You know I think. You know I think when bill talked at the owners' meetings. About all the different is how deep dale war I think it's going to be some good players at skill positions you can pick up you know his fourth fifth and even you know -- this year and I think -- talked about that a little bit -- at the entrance to."
[18:59]" and Thomas Brown don't really pretty productive at Georgia's probable loses. There's a phenom. -- edict came on the evening or marine are you know yeah and once he once he got the ball that was hit -- right wider area want to know about Darius ran out of West Virginia. And division one double play. That at Boise State Dexter Jackson. Yeah I what you like Jack Anderson I like we came across like that we carried himself and he ran a great four year and one of the best forties all the white receivers at the com line. And gets first one unofficially was like 429 and then they official want to end up with was 439 but they'll let right blazing speed than him and he's he always a little. He's a slot sized guy but that Nazi -- play on the outside right you know which you probably -- which he did it appellation state you know."
[19:46]" But and it and radar that that's the guy I would watch college football I loved because yeah obviously to have a very accurate passer throwing the ball pat white. He made a lot of big plays but here's the problem analyst Virginia guys and I would say this as nicely -- I don't think they're doing a great job of filtering the the best academic students their West Virginia. There's a lot of guys there who probably should even be in college now I don't allred I don't know anything about regard personally and I've never talked to over anything like that. But that's the one thing about West Virginia is I don't think their run a very tight ship their without program and we've seen it -- with Chris Henry. With pac -- Jones. Two guys from West Virginia who had you know I just that that period in order Jerry Porter another one. So that's the thing about what spurt then Schmidt obviously is that category because everyone thinks he's phenomenal well. A guy like we're -- way to check that because if they just scare me those guys."
[20:45]" I'd say with either of those guys I take a flyer on them maybe third fourth round if if you want to them but they don't that you know I don't think it's unfair because. Much like we just mention -- Georgia running backs and how you can say well David eight they weren't you know these 1500 yard backs you know coming out of college but. Late in the draft they seemed to be productive out of Georgia. As a positive I don't think it any different to say you have to be kind of aware of the West Virginia factored in a negative light it -- they get started with that may not be fair. For all the individual players involved maybe this kid has had no off the field problems because but. There's enough from West Virginia that happen including this running back now Noel -- Who just got arrested about a month and a half ago he you know he's he's just got to you know -- so far it was but you still there. There's been a lot of discipline problems with that program you have to wonder what kind of players were kind of people they're they're recruiting."
[21:43]" I wish I'd gotten a chance to talk during on the -- to get a feel for what it was like there to it was one of those days yet are so many people around after their shoes so but I felt like Jackson as a mid around maybe as high as the third round of -- there. He he strikes me as one of those guys playing at a smaller school but. I think has the ability does that to maybe do something you don't -- terrified him but yet that's a that's a big. Okay launch -- play -- you know when they had the opportunity to play up the -- up they they showed that they can play -- and and and beat Michigan and he's used to win championships. You know direction right so you know that that would fit in well here productive tight at the I'd -- know about your Michael Finley if Texas. He really."
[22:31]" I like Milan. Yeah I mean or some Owens like I'm talking about you know fifth round while I'm not talking about all I want remote -- by I think that he. He has a lot of athletic and and -- you know it's not the patriot kinda tied and because I think you look for the blocker you know like we talked about in the podcast the tide as few weeks ago but -- you know terms of the overall athletic my -- and -- them I like him widget about a town."
[22:56]" Yeah I like them to the I don't -- gonna attack that I'd I'd be doing Eric darted. I don't I agree I don't think he's probably not a good fit for the patriots. But as far as a player I think either seed in the fourth round guy court NFL draft get my guess is three years from now. Is going to go back and I think he's going to get a lot of mid round tight end that make. An impact David happy Tony Gonzalez and I Michael -- yet guys who were in the league who were producing some I think he's going to get a lot of those in this draft."
[23:26]" Guys that can catch sixty avenue balls. Maybe not be dynamic -- Tony Gonzales solar. You know Antonio Gates and they've put up those kind of pro bowl numbers but solid careers -- past catches and not really the pass blockers and you know. Finley's tall guy but he's not. As Nevin and my -- yeah -- if you wanted to -- is he's he's. He was Dave thomas' replacement at Texas and he's he's kind of the same kind of player and a that's he'd be getting yet he got this guy yeah I think he's needs admittedly he said he needs to work on his block yeah. -- Thomas that would and I didn't even -- you know because he has the what you wear and number. As honest -- was he was sixteen -- Tom -- Texas."
[24:05]" You don't realize you know what I find funny and adding go to the come -- this year out of all the same thing with the two years I was there. I heard a lot of tight ends say that I have to work on my blocking under the position in college you think that. That these guys gotta be blocking a lot. If women said that at a lot of the even the big guys that you think this guys probably more of a blocker they all say. I gotta work I mean the only guy remember. They and they Daniel coats it was when I was there two years ago he actually he I think he might be on the eagles. He made the team but he he was BYU is blocking tight end that's all he did. And he was the only tight then said you know blocking is my strength everyone else that I kind of got to work -- my blocking."
[24:47]" One. The other -- anyone know about we talked about -- the last show Matthew Mulligan from Maine today. When are currently is is who will be -- with third rental draft and I think the PFW dont progress. He we think that he he'd be likely he's one of those guys who's just the opposite he's a blocker. And we think you might be a good fit as a as a free agent Sino after the draft ridiculous rookie camp may be even many campers. No -- get a shot and training camp early that's where we see him go outside acted doesn't lack of confidence appearance of the quotes from him or early on he he thinks he can play planet -- yeah. Now he and Leah. Is not one of the small guys look different boat to the opportunity yeah. Let it do he's going to make -- anything to do for quarterbacks he wants to know and at the first when he list is the guy that we all of what -- Kevin O'Connell from San Diego State Dennis Dixon Oregon I like him and his tremendous plays don't know what yet and that plan of LSU was -- I don't know I."
[25:54]" I would take Dixon -- he was around the sixth or seventh round as a flyer. -- because I said you can. You can kind of be like a third quarterback slash guy for -- you know that you could bring in and maybe make a couple packages for -- sticks with your team. I don't think quarterback wise lover ever be anything more than a number three. But maybe you could find some things for him to do like the jets did yeah with brad Smith right that would be up to a team that they wanted to -- that kinda Roberts -- quarterback play you look at it and number three at that for the for his career. I O'Connell. We didn't -- rounds at the highest."