PFW in Progress - 4/15/2008

Tue, 15 Apr 2008

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as the staff of Patriots Football Weekly preview the Patriots 2008 opponents in advance of the release of the NFL regular season schedule. Plus, we'll talk about the prospects New England may target for selection with their 7th pick in the draft.

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Play from 11:29[11:29] ..." and for the first time in I don't know how many years. Bill Belichick is going to hold a pre draft press conference tomorrow and eleven years. I think the last two we have done it"...

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Play from 1:29[1:29]" And warm welcome the PFW progress there always tell -- you know sitting there and host there today. It's a huge day huge then they show a lot going on in the NFL later on today gently by the only court cancer though. Head writer Tom -- what what's your what's your silly title race right now it's. Yet W draft expert but all right that not only does that give himself his own nickname citizens of his own work -- senior staff writer. And I'm exit -- and he's got a big -- so. Had a foreigner would suffice senate voice you -- director of communications for other companies that. -- that other bush junior laughing over it areas. Speaking -- at assistant editor Andy heart. Back from his he's probing you -- get elected he enjoyed it I unlike you I did not enjoy. I would not do it every Friday night like you do it now but -- now I honestly the guy goes -- give you something that's -- lasting remember and then. An hour and a half two hours later I was at breakfast and so it's how you get your dates in that same thing. They I didn't give up no it was -- a quiet week on the show last week and behind the glass producing today is many Gary. Daniel -- general -- known as the human tomato nearly fell asleep and -- because our great our regular producer Gary is mowing hearing today. That means I think he's -- that means he's he's -- Hollywood is calling out there but we we tend to. Doubt that he's actually the course is open yet the golf course is open a hole maybe it's -- question is are are we on the air looks like we're having a small crisis in the last. That sunburned face doesn't look at the other crisis we have as we don't have -- and we were it holds on the last show. Last Thursday that we were set with wants all the way through the draft I wasn't here what you guys -- the -- that are yeah. Quite a bit of as we had a we had -- Miller who generously -- in and that hey you guys set for lunch on Tuesday or Thursday of next week and I sit there are we and he said. Set the can read all pompous and I are good if that refuses. If I finally had -- in time -- talk about the schedule featured email or call -- now but but we do the actual scheduled to talk about soon. We don't have in our hands -- coming out no later than 2 o'clock today we have -- that -- yeah else. In the I took the dolphins know I have the jets and Paul has the bills and we're all assuming that mister -- that we wanted to and a one Clark one Mark -- is -- the ran the -- the cardinals -- that -- later -- in -- division -- them. And soul were Golan AFC's with the dark horse be in the rim leukemia that the patriots and -- with the help of the period there is a terrible defense that in the NFL want the patriots and Brady and moss -- and a good. You know put the rams out there and that's the thing if radio it's here that's true yeah as he walked all male. I had no idea how to -- because now there -- reports that he was here this weekend for that the and -- when you know little island yes but he's being hounded by the paparazzi you know. Doing anything -- apparently tells them to she may or may not be wearing a rock. On her finger in which may wear one if she wants the world right beaten depends on whether that you want to get married. Oh yeah but I mean we're now into and we talked about this in the office yeah. Before that we -- we off season program and know and we're led to believe by these paparazzi type sources that he hasn't really been here. And that is not a good sign an -- that vehicle opens letting them all right we're talking about being here -- program is more days doing his work at an interest in him that because you know for for the past few years this isn't going to be pretty by the way when you thirty Millen and we're written Brady."

Play from 5:29[5:29]" We're not real average speed but I'm rhetoric -- I -- the point is. His Brady need to be your lifted weights probably. But as a team leader if if other people -- shouldn't you be you know what I and it's what you -- the sole Super Bowl it's always been sold to us you know Randy Moss comes here and as well you know Tom Brady's his biggest stars or isn't he's always in the work -- how could I -- work right. That's the whole supposed to mentality and I think that's how. Championship teams are built as one of the first abdominal starts the ball. Then like you that maybe Omar says well Brady's I mean it's kind of a ripple effect all the weight I can -- good in bad -- it's gotten it prolonged time elected Gaylord Rory who grow locker when Brady went over with a stern look on his face was for -- that all right guys I got that idea he's the leader. Well I think you have to keep that. I don't."

Play from 6:18[6:18]" Has arrived and -- you are here there's a lot of what we hear from me for the I pizza and everything who. Wow wow we have great listeners -- we have tremendous listeners. Hopefully they want to talk about South Park too because -- wealthy and you guys last week trying to broached the topic and there was a lot of -- it was it was very surprising but. Funny that. No I know that fans have heard before Brady has mentioned the parking space yes. Which in if anyone out there doesn't know what what the patriots do in the off season program is they give out awards for at each position of the the player who for lack -- determined that they perform the best in the offseason program they reach certain objectives and they basically had had the best offseason program at that position. And in opposition. There's just a certain number of them -- I thought curfew by position. Because it's just based on participation and improvement and worked in the offseason pro okay well there's -- there's about a half dozen or so those parking spaces in their in the front row at Gillette Stadium on the players and coach -- side. And for the last I don't know I think for as long as Brady's been here he's had that program parking space one of them. And he mentions it all the time and references the fact that you know he was Carol off season working now and you know hate proof positive I got that for -- base again and I and you got to re earn it every year and you know if you miss already three in almost a half weeks of the off season program you have to do a lot to get that part --"

Play from 7:49[7:49]" Right and -- not saying he's not going to get it he's because the way the program is set up and I don't recall exactly how many weeks that is but. Say if you know sixteen week. You don't actually it's not set up that you have to work the full sixteen weeks or days a week you have to do. You know it out so that if some guy okay you need to be somewhere in the first week of April you can miss a week. But you need to put in your whole day thirteen and a half weeks of work at some point in the sixteen week program right so we're not saying he's not going to get it we're not saying. You know he's suddenly change and he's become this guy is never going to work him and we just staying. It's a little different that a month into it he's not -- but."

Play from 8:31[8:31]" If a -- a change it would be for a woman you know what I immediately that the what -- it certainly -- about Brady athlete. We all Mulholland and he -- What worries me is. Like this is Nell Carter -- him pretty light and a -- if there's one thing that could change Brady the athlete the competitor right you're right it's a woman the woman we all do stupid things at some point our life for a woman and how much attention as she needed and I have. You have been a man. You know -- its feet demanding a lot more tension take it out well I'm worried about him -- Culpepper. I don't know -- crackdown in on the last night. I think and senior you raise a point I mean. With you know he was with that other with and I'm Bridget -- what three years or so and didn't ever seem to have this sort of and now. Don't -- trail him around for the most part you know ring ceremony and right when he would go to the occasional New York paper or whatever but. This just reeks of an inning this is what the paparazzi has latched on to him following her around the world doing whatever she tells him to do now. Arguably in the knock in -- talking about this but this. Arguably she's more the world superstar -- news. I'm not only if our I think she's the bigger world superstar. I mean I mean she's the face of companies all over the world right and sees the what he's the highest paid model and the rules are right. She made 35 million dollars I think last year. Yet they had to actually prayed -- or heroes whatever Shealy paid him. -- that's right yeah and then there was that too. If she she -- Jimmy declaration a few weeks ago that you should get paid in US dollars but it. I don't think it's called smart business the -- and let me anybody can relate to the slow heavy we've all kinda. -- bid -- with a girl that. That it takes your attention your focus away from things that -- say and if he's his whip does it. People say we don't know but it uses does that take. Any attention away from football like that new Kerry wood's arm. All American whatever right. I don't know anybody let me I and they are hurting the star quarterback in all of us and get the girlfriends -- practice threatening and a with the girl don't know that about Tony Romo that. And remember might not even be Carrie Underwood you know in with the Krstic. And you after your surgery you started goddess get a little amnesia I'm a little worried about that idea at traditionalists speaking. Archer included turned enemy. And thank you became worse me where's Hugh yeah but that's by Alex had trouble remembering Faxon I was -- as you can -- And on the had a properly and out there knowing that it I'm sorry about it where you can I set it on purpose right obviously -- just great. Patriots -- you know press went -- predators dot com. 5854 threesome for it to the -- the draft is only a week and a half away and for the first time in I don't know how many years. Bill Belichick is going to hold a pre draft press conference tomorrow and eleven years. I think the last two we have done it three years ago it just when we thought we knew the man right he goes I its -- act admit that operas you guys who -- that press conference at the end we all obviously -- of knowledge the only thing on that day. What we talk about ways ways back about the number seven in all. That they you know they want to trade that they'll have to put forth some propaganda. About I wonder if this Wednesday wait for them to in some way try to manipulate the media. And put some propaganda out there to help influence potential trades and -- way I think Bill Parcells is playing games out of Miami negotiating and trying to break contract you know but he can -- guys and emulate bill saints lovely giving and Glenn Dorsey is. You know you'll you'll only deal wanted to be -- the record a year and it is I don't know what he's going to -- them but I have the feeling that going to be thrown something melted at that they want the -- ridiculous that the because I just into -- and he's going to. Yeah I found it on the range and at that that email for the -- Vienna alcohol billion haven't done I stopper like six years. But yeah so on Thursday we'll have a lot to talk about with hopefully with what he says but who knows what he's insane. -- you know he's not going to give away any and he strategy there's a lot of added he's going to gotten -- maybe he opened says. Well there's one -- like it's Vernon Gholston would really hope he's there at seven if he's not we might trade up to five maybe -- give him any questions. And the ball leave everybody would get shot. As we mentioned a few minutes -- once has arrived and get a largest -- ever it is -- disorders ever does a couple of -- sandwiches there's all -- unfortunately orbison 500 pounds of our -- outlets either. Yeah -- Paul only Paul Perillo is going to make an appearance on NFL network today. But as the warriors now know not where is nobody's going to be later on today you know writer authorities struggled with viewership or they are going down even more. Q -- I mean in literary. Patriot all patriot please calm in these meetings -- all the team unity and you know what he -- behind. I asked the national that he even knows what show it is well there's going to be a throw some segment where they're talking about the schedule and the patriots schedule particulars -- and I'm. Via guest analyst. On that it was -- big boy clothes on today. His old dress though isn't going to like -- and be shared on wrinkled pants aren't going to have his blazer on later on today. -- was on the show though you know they did it I don't know what they did but he looked in decent shape. Magic have special -- special effects CGI was somebody else in front of the you know I. TGI -- and change some things look like going to be out is that guys walk and yet. New goal at any second prayer breakfast and it's Gary's not in okay web radio patriots suck on the email address again 5854374 to the phone number. When we get much we typically like to read the email of the person who -- but -- like six -- certainly don't we like who. My wife teaches kindergarten and first -- that area and she's so used explaining everything to her kids right there which he comes home he -- with the -- I ever say I'm not -- I don't know what you're saying -- you do need to explain to get more you know on a bigger level my you know what we're having for dinner oh you don't have to just say. Does your does the mail I read. They don't have it that's what I was setting up for Tom we don't have the email for the per cent this once today they'll bring enough so I can't thank them. Yet we don't even know who it is all I don't. I don't hear any Garrett and Paul on that all oral. They there was a contact person Paul you know there's been Paul and I and my name on the report -- Murphy batters while. So we have a great which is even for a well this is for like 1015 people it is it's enormous but then again I didn't notice. Like you said 500 pounds of our crew -- here now. But we'll take -- don't toward will finish it off thank you thank you for the order whoever you're you know -- those guys are we were there at McCoy out here -- Ilya. I'm sure they're having a little catered meeting up in one of the clubs it is right or something -- my talent why you guys talking about eating salad Loria brought it up Lori was on the show the other day struggles miserable -- number I didn't hear that -- that I had show you wanted to have myself although I don't wanna Alan I don't know if you want -- yesterday Eric. Yesterday yeah. I'll walked in to -- office and I saw thing on the wall or Andy had made. Cartoon art Comerica all of -- everybody in the office except one person. Well except for himself that -- don't know Lori Lori. That's true made fun of everybody in the office it's inevitable and that's a good points I don't think I didn't catch that -- I saw that I -- really eat your --"

Play from 16:55[16:55]" I mean it's like she does it on purpose I wonder if she does because I'm open he'd be as clicking at once Indy. Those stereo types that cheerleaders that it if she's a walking billboard no question. It's like I don't. I don't buy that Jessica Simpson was as dumb as she was on the newlywed show I think she played it up because she knew people heated up. But the whole chicken of the he has -- chip I don't buy it don't want this to the how -- and I don't you wish list obtained by playing get up at a and certainly not raised with the work here. On our minds I have attended Jamison story that record of four from last week but will look at that later and you had a Jenna Jamison story none I I wonder why that. She runs he went he does. And you confirm that al Helio from Pontchartrain in Louisiana I think it's a he or rodeo and on the court pregnancy and so forget I've grown tired of you being -- Michael. Everybody used to be good we -- we're entertained by impose that the toaster doesn't annoy it'll be back toward. Hey guys I heard Paul talking about the dolphins negotiating with Vernon Gholston we mentioned before Vernon Gholston you know while. Information they'll also going to get out in explaining let's say the following picks happened in the draft number one -- goes to Miami number two linguistics Jake long three. -- Atlanta Glenn Dorsey. For the raiders Sedrick Ellis and the -- at five now. What happens from the point on who -- the jets they take Keith rivers and the pats high and dry for a linebacker and with a at stake. I don't think Chris long complete linebacker I don't think he's that good anyway McFadden doubt Ryan Clady Leodis Mckelvin. A more than the patriots will lose out -- one of the better prospects what Uga thank. I think well the jets and the patriots would take Chris long is -- yes littlest."

Play from 18:56[18:56]" I don't like a -- I think they would draft. I don't love them and that only gives a great upside. But I think as people have said he's a pretty solid prospect you're gonna get a guy who's going to play for you for an extended period. Darren McFadden could be out of the league as I predicted that before your ideas of I think he's -- I -- right but. I think for a long worst case scenario Chris long -- a starter in the league for the next six or seven years he might not be Grady might not be an all pro. But he's going to play. So I mean I don't -- him I don't see him being the guy that they show like with the way in the red base sloping down like 1516 away. Not going to have that Brady Quinn moment for -- here I don't think there's any chance."

Play from 19:37[19:37]" The other thing too the only problem I have with -- I don't think that the rams would take Jake long. Because that they don't need help on the offensive line because they certainly do but. They're deep fences so bad I think when you're picking in the top two you have to get you have to drafted -- sense of playmaker. And a lot I would expect them to either -- law the other long Chris long or one of the big guys up for just because they couldn't get to the pass rusher they could stop the run. In you know I think he gets them offensive lineman down line but. Those impact defensive guys that are there -- you know exit number two I think -- got a program Jake long I think that whole. He's a right tackle starting to catch up put them. You know if they goes to saint Louis while people are expecting Orlando pace they want. They left tackle the next twelve years and want Robles. Right and only he can move up so you don't think there's any do you think there's a chance what -- Chris long. Is available. At seven -- that they don't pick him in the trade down."

Play from 20:43[20:43]" that well I think there's always a chance they trade down but I think if but if he's there and he is available there's a pretty good chance and take him and he's pretty good football player. You know the whole al -- connection in the system everything. I think bill would find a way to use them even if he's a he's not a perfect outside linebacker you know and -- they always Mike Vrabel he's not. Because he's been Richard Seymour that's what he's been in college and is going to be a transition phase here in. I'm not old is on his athleticism and an upside and all that but. I just think not everybody can be that wrong about him everybody raves about like the -- prospect in the draft."

Play from 21:20[21:20]" What we finally have Fonda on out who surface once they eat and you -- from Delaware as hey guys hopefully by now the food is arrived it has thank you thirty arrived daily and it's on its way out the door and few minutes. A week without -- Indian -- he was going to be very cranky if there was no food here and orange fire him lately or what -- green prior law we don't need to get that specific about it but. You can say about canceling the order after Thursday's show but figured we needed something to -- to write back and listen to this year it was -- is -- It wasn't as bad I got ten bucks can't go home two while stop it has I've heard that it's worse than Paul Perillo titans I'll know Gary said that Gary was just being. Gary it was awful anyway Ethan says it -- guys alone for one week he can't do a single show without me even mentions the south market and so on the unlikely that as I've decided to hate south -- attack of -- recheck. I hit in the -- patriots despite the food you keep -- more -- new commentary reached millions of kids and I've decided not to take it in good humor equals. I certainly do not need 35 year old watches South Park it's not a huge gap I. It's that I certainly cannot eat some pompous individual and tell me how I should take situation I think that's the problem today yet it. But that's more of a teenager young adult tight right they call Nadal early twenties right. If if there's kids watching it than is they take. Their problems their their parents have -- at 10 o'clock at -- and as I was joking earlier I wanted to open the show with the quote that -- march closed the show with a and clearly couldn't do -- that prime beef by. Oh well. Get an eight that would you've seen it it's hilarious but I don't know in the don't tadahito is running around her half hour that you want if players. I don't know but I don't he goes on I like F word with two Gs in the net and -- in Latvia I think that. -- like the keyword that's one of those that the bat right -- as I liked -- PFW merchandise I'd like to have the PFW set of beer glasses not to be confused with PFW beer goggles he. I -- heavy drama the photo or Eric cartoon with an appropriate tag line Paul being the easiest with maybe registry to get drunk. Fred would obviously -- you Doug. After putting -- That could operandi only an Irish joke would do -- you're probably drunk enough fanatic about it ansari probably -- have a small penis. Read read 112 early. With a shamrock to either side Toms were clearly be I'm married but I'm not fanatic about it and find if America were not much beer glass the champagne flew with. What would make you think I'm pomp and I a job as pretty good anyway and draft questions yet. In your first mock draft you have Keith rivers as the first -- that's correct yeah I admit I did not -- USC games be on the rose bowl. My girlfriend's are big Ohio State and so ended up watching most of those games he does not seem to have the ideals are easy but yeah. Yeah I don't like it's -- rhymes with Maggie yeah. I does that seem to have the ideal size really to be a full time outside linebacker for the 34. I would think he'd project more audience and -- that being the case you'd think he'd be a better fit for the week started strong side linebacker position."

Play from 24:58[24:58]" Well here's the thing and I always say this every year we -- mock drafts I total Keith rivers that year what is evident we were trying to look at the value. And -- right and I couldn't we couldn't put a quarter. As of now and we are not providing he says and we love right but at our mock draft we have goals and we had off the board and so. You know -- I don't know that it hate rivers seven probably not but for our mock draft purposes it was kind of an. A neat area he's a players fight and goal that top and range. So we took a shot but definitely in sideline -- here not yet definitely inside I think he would hit. Our little theory that bill is is trending -- more athletic speedy. John decent tight inside linebackers so I think he hit that. He got decent size 8240 pound. I wanna I -- face of the period I think too many people. Are stuck with Ted Johnson right. Those days are pretty much yeah you're not going to -- a bit slower I guess for this job there was a fullback of the defense like you -- in the met you said rivers is 240 that I did I'd linebacker who can broaden those other guys you want mean -- the team with it and they'll. We're pretty sure they were and Beason. Those guys are guys who can run it's as -- Ted Johnson days Earl."

Play from 26:21[26:21]" The one problem we talked about the I think he faces is the expectation because of Willis. Because it was drafted lower than where you'd be taking him and came in and was great it was a great rookie and outside as well he's not as good as Willis. I won't have anywhere near the impact of -- so he set up from a fan's perspective and even from our perspective you know next November when we're talking about how Keith rivers is bidding and he set up to sort of be a disappointment. -- he goes on with the inside linebackers by after reading the papers breakdown of possible inside linebackers doesn't seem to be anyone in the second. Round on that really project well in the will spot in the 34 here in England right now looking at some of the draft information a couple of guys that -- project -- mayo and Aaron and thoughts on the -- yeah I love Sharaud dale -- is. -- piper one album as well with -- hyper loves he's I think he checks in the mail in the gap first round heat and he thinks that rivers and mayo are like. Wake closer than where they're going to be -- and the thing about dropping mail is this it was is very big with me."

Play from 27:26[27:26]" Whenever I watch -- he game he was all over the place and were talking SEC we're not talking about played middle Tennessee's date or whatever. This guy was all over the place they can play and he kinda reminds me of al Wilson. You know played there at every time I saw Tennessee game al Wilson was jump but over piles not in the you know what I mean he's that kind of player. -- I agree with -- Indian with piper I think -- is going to be one of those steals -- that I could really -- maybe you couldn't at the -- I could pick -- you'd be a good fit here."

Play from 27:58[27:58]" I think he could be here. I was not on idea up now he plays with -- yeah he plays with a little bit of anger little violence I think he'd be now I think he's a little. He's a little less rivers rivers to me is a speed bass player. And I think -- is more of a traditional inside linebacker but I think they both can be accessed here. Yet he I don't think he's going to be around the patriots -- to -- I have yeah. By accounting is it surprising he's going to be definitely a top twenties like 2324 in that area somewhere at media didn't I I don't even know he would -- by the colts because you know that's you seem like he'd be -- kinda wonder they're always looking for defensive guys younger via the guys they they could use some help line that had a yeah."

Play from 28:44[28:44]" You can goes on projecting into the later rounds you think the pats might -- safety somewhere -- four to six I was wondering about guys like. Josh Barrett Thomas accrued Craig stealth Josh Barrett's my guy that's the guy like from Arizona State and -- a lot of range and made a lot of plays he seems like he would that -- played either safety position here."

Play from 29:04[29:04]" They they are going to I think they are going to have to dictate. I mean we look at it not a top need but if you're moving meriwether corner which I think we all think he's probably going most likely yeah for the most part. In you have Rodney Harrison who I nearly played last year but. The same questions are still there how how can you count on Rodney Harrison just say penciled in sixteen games I don't think -- and and James Sanders is. I think we like him but. Certainly not entrenched as like this great player and you know tank Williams on the -- he has now is probably. Back up that even makes the teen type again you don't mean is not the not a ton -- there."