PFW in Progress - 4/24/2008

Thu, 24 Apr 2008

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as we discuss who we think the Patriots will pick in the draft. Plus, we'll offer our thoughts on the recent signing of tight end Marcus Pollard. Be sure to listen to our live draft show on Saturday, April 26 from 3-6pm and on Sunday, April 27 from 12-3pm. As always email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 13:13[13:13] ..." to the the country the people that want to believe backlog at Bill Belichick is is guilty of and a cloud -- I think the -- dueling tournament. I think he could say. I don't know"...

Play from 17:35[17:35] ..." Big hitter you don't Meriweather was more though they compare to and Ed Reed the cover guy Phillips is better near the line rich."...

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Play from 1:37[1:37]" Wish you wouldn't turn yours on I just -- and -- to run to make a right feeling is mutual I gangs all here we have a lot. Talk about our laps oh before that rap the rap against that this Saturday would start that. The regret -- o'clock eastern time. What do you guys think about -- them I always wondered because ESPN with a draft was a new used to go right from -- that are the draft dial up half our draft lead -- talk about possible trades so -- have power. For our act like the verbal -- for our reprint it feel. -- that I felt that we're doing probably doing something similar -- three -- whatever NFL network is doing in their defense. -- trial right ought to have a 4 pregame show that make actually your last year's draft. -- don't -- don't hundreds of in their entirety so. Let let's go over some of the breaking news that happened over the last few days I guess the big news may thirteenth is now the -- that Matt Walsh is going to sit down the commissioner I would assume. Some representative from the patriots I'd want to be their first and see what he says. So that's going to happen may thirteenth in the league that the going to have a statement shortly after that to -- go over. What was. Came out of that so patriot issued a day yesterday which you can -- dot com. Expressed in the air relief that the finally going to happen -- up until then. You know we don't know that other news besides that put down what is your gut feeling president. May thirteenth or you know -- it the next day it's over with now I don't think it's -- but as far as Matlock is yet at battlefield with yeah. But that's going to lingered there's always going to be people who unfairly treat the patriots I. The shuffling. But as far as that while I think and I think at this point that wall 12 I think he's in way over his head so what do you think he says. I don't have no idea but it's not being -- it will audience there's no."

Play from 3:47[3:47]" Evidence that he doesn't have physical evidence because of the way at all situations and handled by the patriots the last couple months. There's no use there and mine but my question is what if he still says yeah I was at the rams walk through. I taped it or I took notes and I brought those to -- out where does that go. I don't know I mean but if he did a lot of redwood if he could say. Something that happened and that walk through that only the rams would bill would that change it at all like if he said at one point oh and so did this illegal bat to Mark -- yes that happened with that at all with that changing."

Play from 4:22[4:22]" I don't think -- because you know. On that day both teams that there. What you know all the walked it was all -- the day that the teams get their photo the team picture taken it very loose very casual. I mean maybe he -- and watch the walk through but. So why aren't as well as much as we -- maybe somebody it watched you know I mean now. I mean I don't know -- If if you didn't watch that you know we're not in charge of the patriots aren't charge -- security on that -- in neither were the rams. So the security without lack. Who knows what could have happened that I don't know. You know I'm just wondered -- in. Well but may thirteenth this that there are actually made this the day he turns over -- right."

Play from 5:13[5:13]" Yes he Toronto either by may -- he has to have everything he has yet to get what he's allowed to make copies -- and his lawyers want to have it. Copy of every every document documented quotes don't end there I am asked to look at it after it's with the league. I guess as an assurance that they -- not just -- strong evidence and stuff so. You know he got a lot of bomb in Macon sessions to me. The ability to keep up if you want that the ability to attack on anything you want to -- that I legal protection all the big thing I think he won was with Florida wrote in that. The patriots can count or what he's -- by simply saying that's a lie we're going you know right you know that's that that's way he he wins because I think that's -- would have happened. I think it whenever he comes out as if it's -- defense and and we didn't believe that you know the big the big tough corporation war the vote of you know. Quote unquote disgruntled former employee so -- giving him -- the eighth his when he as the turn over when ivory has the thirteenth is when he meets with the commissioner. That was that interim period when the league is supposedly going to look at whatever he turned outwards as to see what -- so they as -- you know make an Olympic coverup. That or just decide what questions are going to ask her pre you know -- sounds like they're expecting to get something because they're going to need some time to look at what -- I think -- expect -- get something. And there's also the idea that they might yet. The audiotapes that he was Mosley fired for making. -- would Charles Scott --"

Play from 6:44[6:44]" Oh that I now that yeah. What if pioli there's talks about hate being Graham's walk then that that's smoking and that that's bad news for the they still goes I didn't know about. I can get out I can guarantee you though that of a friend's probably the proof is what you look for. -- said that if he has that they did that doesn't really mean it already but if that is what the net while. Dot have been connected they have not been actually tied together if he says that. They did this doesn't mean anything to you like it pioli is seen on tape that they did that it -- means that okay of the active. The walked through. Is is important to you. Only if there's proof of jobs -- because and a first -- IQ and at the walk through it off and I'm not but I'm not and you wrong I don't know what I don't know how much benefit them they bought from watching the -- the war well and what I'm saying that anyone could paper or watch anything the question is that the patriots element. Or that that you. Elena party -- a lot of people's late run at some point. If they find out that they hate it. Bill bell -- will be a response to act I think it is used to that because to me because it definitely employee did at the patriots are wrong wreck or what if what if I'd take out you tied up what do you hate it. And he kept that too well. Now Walt yet how they can -- I don't know but what if that's the case. I usually don't be difficult to prove someone's going to ethical I don't I do you really think -- he he is coming forward and and beat -- NFL on it I I watched a -- that'll never told anybody about I don't I don't. I told them he hit it but it was never -- it was that. It was kind of like. But he told people obviously he told people let me it's quite unrealistic to expect that he did this in never told -- employee of the team. You know Tom covering the giants' all week what -- up that. And tumble to the -- to be held responsible for that. -- that you you know when -- it to the wrong Terry and there was no carry all of a sudden something that would you know. Most people didn't have that do stumbled into a meeting room and had a first and please whatever and you wrote them down and went to bill and I -- that short of that. You know but let's say that at all that. Any okay right but I great or football operation and he also doesn't go to the media -- Seven years later say you know white -- that bubble under the -- I know that giants first place that while go to you what -- hand I would go to. It quoted him because people do that he did it or what they were also go to -- you can you can go tell -- didn't he didn't own not tell anybody in seven years later -- that -- below that the people like Jeff that are in sports it pretty well connected party that if the proof of it. Someone's gonna have to take responsibility in the someone's going to be built -- in -- also unrealistic to think that. -- personal or Walsh who I think there are similarities between the two go gators active against the rules here there to get ahead in life. Are going to find this information that they know for a fact is of value in just go and others than myself well that doesn't make any even if you did dad. It doesn't make any sense today and years later. Try to benefit from but I'll -- and when you didn't really share with anybody know what -- almost doing his -- and it -- totally -- you do -- go to bill they can you use -- I just think about getting something opposite the bottom line if he doesn't -- but he proved -- he just saying that they -- it's done if he has proved there's going to be some problems for the patriots I think -- the patriots have been -- so confident -- like Walt called America that we -- I have not the I write and if people up to this thing in a brand new 150000 dollar labor -- and I goma but they got to the well and I'm not dismissing that as a possibility that I agree with them rated in India I think it. That the overwhelming circumstantial evidence that. Patriots have to be pretty confident -- up with dollar -- said. Raw highest honor I'll ever watch a walk through any human pace himself -- yeah it did you these are not."

Play from 11:07[11:07]" No comment and -- it went -- and you know talk about the wording of that he released yesterday. Finally we -- private Matt Matt waters finally coming out in here he's going to keep on you know whatever -- but there was Pacific buzzwords and that I think were intentional and -- I just do it totally -- still the same statement by -- more I don't make you do it out of this even a shred of doubt in your mind that. Now -- as anything that can be coming to another question at that one little one of the rules of being a lawyer go to court. He never asked the questioner posed the question you don't don't don't know the answer I agree with you okay wanted to do that right now. He can't make money -- for five years as part of the agreement correct way but does that mean because he's going to have copies of all the information which lets say is a tape whatever. Are we going to see Lleyton he going to hold a press conference and pressed play and have. In the cup you know kind of like the Roger Clemens thing where I can just listened to over like -- that was part of it that that he couldn't hear. With anybody in the media. I thought it said before yeah ideally in the five years -- but it just said that he can't. Talk to third party bottled -- in my -- it with a dipping into the air credits on the end that's crap though they're so that not a eight. We have the right the year I -- Kansas people put money into the league if you got some that we want it last night at all that you -- destroyed their evidence before anybody's an -- really it's probably never questioned whether Arlen -- going to get a vote I think they were I think on the day after he I think he said he wanted to they would all be able talk to. Yeah and in -- point two you know he mentioned that if he -- his words and you have any visual evidence I agree that the by the of the NFL purposes I think that ended it however I think. Nationally not outside outside of knowing one I don't think that'll be the end I think if this guy is that they did this and that you know whatever. Maybe Goodell looks at his ball looked you know it's your word -- saying different Israel and up and I can do here you don't have any visual evidence to back up what you say. I don't know I mean I've punished them severely already it's gonna have to sit bet that would and I think the rush to the the country the people that want to believe backlog at Bill Belichick is is guilty of and a cloud -- I think the -- dueling tournament. I think he could say. I don't know anything and there are still -- it outright or a smaller -- it might only be 10% is that a point five but I think yet that we -- is going well I'm sure the league got to limit told them to shut the bleak but hey how how easy it. That was story yesterday that and it Goodell thought that this was going to come down. Earlier than right right you know via the agreement was going to be made before this in -- sit down and get all this stuff done updated to may thirteenth he -- already going to be done by -- you know I mean if -- wannabes whack job Oliver stone Carl Everett. You know what I -- guy in in in Dallas whose huge cowboys panel or didn't even better disgruntled eagles and from the suitable. Well clarity Goodell went you know met with Walsh gave him 500000 dollars at the -- going to do Berrian -- by the latter. You gonna come forward you were going to go to -- dog and pony show you're gonna give us what you have what was going to divulge it to everybody's vacancy that you really have nothing and you're gonna go -- But you know we'll take -- Well a black job Oliver stone guy that's what they did. I have the complete agreement in front of me right here I haven't for a meet the complete agreement it's eight pages long. In I'm not going to even attempt -- reading or you know what -- likes Florio who's a lawyer said I'm Marty have a headache and I'm on the first paragraph. Yeah though it was -- reading this crap. It was quite extent of him in terms of the legal mumbo Jumbo as what are people."

Play from 14:54[14:54]" I don't want to have chime in on that the other thing I wanted to talk about it Marcus Pollard. I solved that you play anymore I don't know for sale what -- as a guy who was at the top of his game -- tight -- but he's been probably guarantee that you're -- right here with Seattle he's not going to make the team unless their injuries and they have nobody -- he's a pass catching tight -- get -- at all I'd be very surprised oh yeah unless Ben Watson -- the -- and that we -- that -- body -- does have -- that's -- but -- been -- for the last -- edit me -- he had his career and it do not so coincidentally when he -- enlightenment a total. Oh even help that the patriots were holding him anymore I know they have all those weapons but -- I don't even when he left the quarterback though the weapon. -- in the quarterback. Ones and well but he was reporting today that the patriots and Ty Law. Books there which -- okay well I'll I'll I. Almost the only guy reported -- thought he -- yet he'd -- reports that it was close it chosen yet you chose the patriots only his preference was the patriots over the -- you can. And as -- just because -- what butch and other other brush or other information about the patriot news that you guys want to --"

Play from 16:25[16:25]" The word is is that Atlanta trying to get to number 2 so they can take Glenn Dorsey. And that the rails with -- three intake Chris long. Because habitable Adam Carriker side who they draft of last year that kinda -- the Matt Ryan thing open because -- the chiefs don't taken it five. He'll probably be on the board when the patriots ticket evidently they had the ravens now does NET want to come up and get them."

Play from 16:51[16:51]" Personally the ravens will definitely take their ball -- does or he's going to have to fine job. Okay its -- in the money in the bank is called a career. I that we got a lot to talk about it on the phone right now Dave from stores Connecticut they've been patiently waiting it gave. What's up Dave."

Play from 17:12[17:12]" A couple draft questions and it's a position opposite things it is on Saturday. You know who I was wondering. What these guys bought like a good comparison would be from -- whether it -- like Kenny Billups has started from Miami. I know that it's similar it's different."

Play from 17:31[17:31]" Yes I would compare Phillips aboard the Sean Taylor type book. Big hitter you don't Meriweather was more though they compare to and Ed Reed the cover guy Phillips is better near the line rich."

Play from 17:43[17:43]" He's a strong safety type in the please -- run guy. Physical whereas meriwether is obviously a -- corn. Corner clutch free safety type cover guy we talked about that on the podcaster after the draft podcast we inning and I can't really understand. How he's free safety threat of watching him play every play seems to be at a near on him just going to go like build a chemical or ones that I am kinda does run that -- similar to the patriots. Where they just put the athletes out there have home plate safety vital golf. They have a strong and free type --"

Play from 18:17[18:17]" Other question is I know we've been talking over about Brandon Albert but I don't understand what the -- about the dark ages but is. I don't needed to happen."

Play from 18:26[18:26]" Don't get you don't well you're certainly not get an answer here because I think it most unbelievable thing in the world and all these people tallied an al -- trying to tell me why he didn't play left tackle at Virginia but he can in the NFL. It's ridiculous umpire I think he's the next Michael Campbell I think somebody's gonna draft -- and believe all this crap that he can play left tackle ET it. He'll be okay guard in the league in -- while we drafted him in the top ten or twelve or whatever and not really regret the panic."

Play from 18:51[18:51]" Let but it does not ship of and I -- give him and I think -- player. It is just. It was a big guys to seven but it people's overactive and super ball especially like the media looking at the patriots line. I don't think -- should -- like seven. You know what they really haven't regretted it I think it -- alignment of the oil portrait it's. But a lot of you know I'll I'll swear like it and I agreed."

Play from 19:21[19:21]" The only thing I disagree with is is I don't think just the patriots and relate to the Super Bowl with -- Albert. The whole world all in love with -- he's become a top ten pick right he's all of a sudden this silly left tackle who's never played left tackle because he couldn't beat out D'Brickashaw who was entrenched and then some like I was quote comfortable at left tackle so we didn't -- ridiculous."

Play from 19:39[19:39]" D'Brickashaw but thanks do is that the Williams didn't come yet. And that that's does that mean that I was I -- it somewhat after 25. And I saw another Mark like five right now it's just such a -- opinions and I -- usually good."

Play from 19:56[19:56]" Even he's honest about it he came out early and said you know buy rating they gave me a second or third and I would you know would have been happy in the second. Then I would have been happy late in the first. That I would have been happy middle of the first and believe me I'll be happy in the top end of the first I mean he's riding this this this paid as long as you don't you don't I just don't understand. In I'm not a scout never will be but. Two guys that I like roles of cason who had great college careers ran well. Haven't had any problems up. Through this process at all pretty much right you know -- ugly and and but their consider like late first second round -- you have a guy like they show up into the top ten that's the one thing I just don't understand about the draft he has -- happens every year to somebody who gets there are overrated it is a minute it's a weird phenomenon that doesn't happen there's guys that play. At a high level. And they start off at a high level they seemed to drop in these other guys that you don't know anything out shoot up the board happens every year."

Play from 20:54[20:54]" It I regret I think that's -- that he 67 and he moves well he's athletic and as quote the greatest beat in the draft I'm thinking I'm thinking moved all that well I saw the -- better. Are -- Public not widespread belief that he's Jake long will be available. If that's true that hill not by right tackle and he's not a -- that he off the books that might happen."

Play from 21:26[21:26]" Actually -- Dave does mention though that that show on Saturday we take calls on Saturday is that correct Gary. But feel free to email but you can email to your heart's content yet and please do. Lola will be that we took it right three hours we should be over five dollars Churchill. So I doubt it ever are you here and we don't. There was album we made one of the years we made a trade and we just I'd stay on until we made panicked and before you know all that's happened this year. Yeah they trade out of the top -- I'm -- late in the draft Tom little mock that he just went down has Matt Ryan I think if Matt Ryan is available. Matt Ryan war. Darren -- not -- one of the two I think that that's a bad thing if that and for those of you want to trade down that the best scenario. To have one of those guys that would seemingly be the only ones targeted. By a team looking for one player to move. You the other guys the good players and we all of goals that but I think there are other guys that you could take -- that are probably better valued and trading picks and moving up and spending extra money but if you want the best quarterback that's that's probably Ryan in if you want. That does the star power running back that McFadden that was the only guys I think we're trading up for. I wouldn't trade up real one of those guys."

Play from 22:46[22:46]" But no I agree and his articles that gold medals I want our block compared -- like LP Andre tippett. And compare what yet but what I watched I mean I was younger when LP play but I watched North Carolina play when Julius Peppers played. -- guy was all over the place I mean you quit watching game well -- him just destroy people. Gold that is not -- class may be some day you'll get there because he has those incredible measurable and maybe the right coach like Belichick who gets Ahold of that or really hard as the heels but coming out of college. He's not as highly rated double those other guys so that's why agree with Paul I don't. Well he's a good prospect in the top ten selection -- these teams beating down the door to get up there --"

Play from 23:28[23:28]" Yeah but I -- think it's fair to a eagle but the low late Micah the markets where most recent guys have made that type of -- I think you can say. He could commit to beat the market where it community now I don't think -- comparing him to the great linebackers ever played became little better to write it and normal draft I think that's where he would be draft like at thirteen to fifteen spot and has a lot of talk about. All kind of a lightning rod guy in this draft because a lot of people that he's overrated a lot of people think he's under -- And now I think he's leveled into where he should be you know which probably means that your right. Now you know when that enough on both sides of that spectrum yup probably right started out -- to write about all of it shot up. Level and I just looked at as you know. I'd love to Belichick have a chance to work with a guy like I think that's that's the position right now that's really making big impact the Merriman where. He's you know he I think he could Terrell Suggs he the next one of those guys I think as that hybrid and I I'd love -- Belichick be a little corporate image that the."

Play from 24:29[24:29]" It was a radio more than Branden Albert web radio patriots dot com email address web radio and it paid -- dot com. The with the money and -- still with -- yeah it's okay to make it here you know. Right well before we get emails and take a break -- controversy router alone and not. I hit one is tempted I wanted to big TO admitted I wanted to say that first stop trying to bring down the cowboys I want I want to say that the once -- although we talk about strippers in thirty culture I think that is -- all it is our. You confided repatriate guys out there are strippers was surprise I'm sure those will be there soon enough out piece on the bigger question is spread where Conor. I just came found out was brought to my attention it's predicted to worked. Right Jackson harsher beyond -- TJ will should be on here a lot of that you guys want that Erica union partnered I don't. Now I am taking Chris for the bronze on -- tour at least are -- is an Italian air movement with that and -- tour again I think everything looks like. Vote -- I he's coming and his wife and a couple nephews Vegas. So while -- entourage will be going to lower ranked as a lot. Tom might -- it might have been lucky worried. Are right well let's Gary take a break right now we'll be right back with -- unlucky."

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