PFW in Progress - 4/26/2008

Sat, 26 Apr 2008

Listen to this special Draft edition of PFW in Progress as we offer our comments on all the first round picks. Be sure to listen to our live draft show on Sunday, April 27th from 12-3pm and. As always email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 6:06[6:06] ..." like I said do you fled before we came on. I think bill belichick's rules are pretty simple but there are exactly right. I want 300 pound guys at the top of the draft who can"...

Play from 14:42[14:42] ..." thought maybe I play and whatever but I thought that was because Bobby Petrino was there. I thought it was going in as the starter at least you know. I'm glad that Matt Ryan is this"...

Play from 23:56[23:56] ..." always have the ability to do either one you know -- natural Bill Belichick came here saying back in 2000. Is that he he wants to be multiple he wants that it in weather in the"...

Play from 41:10[41:10] ..." linebackers Gholston is a bust that -- Todd from nova Scotia. And bill belichick's I don't know why -- I mean -- drafting him. I don't know why you limit that's why I'm back it's when"...

Play from 52:52[52:52] ..." New England Patriots treated is harder to ignore all saints. With the seventh pick in the 2008 NFL draft New Orleans Saints select. Sedrick Ellis."...

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Play from 3:24[3:24]" I really figured that they'd -- there's a chance they had no -- like -- mean anything better right freedom that's right they could. Now Jake long is signed signed and sealed in going to Miami now the question is seem Lewis is on the clock cool they'd be -- with the second pick Chris long Chris while his who everyone's been reporting today. But guys hello how are how's everybody. Does RF today everyone's all go to the I'm doing radio program protesting like we just you know met each other to thank god the draft this here I'm getting sick of talking about it talking you know senate and -- two months. Yeah a hearing you talk I will say wow three minutes in new record we're ready Eddie Jones wrote I will say Fred give -- get some props out I was waiting quarter. Goodell to give up there and announced that you know the beginning of the draft demand might 67 minutes ago by now mine would make -- yeah. That's the way it should have done we all know not yeah -- was already signs that there's no need for any formalities and it's just make the making good on absolutely I think that. I think if saint Louis already has their guys to get that done right away to --"

Play from 4:30[4:30]" Look at like the chiefs are going to be the sticking point -- five you know we're here that they could go offensive tackle a lot of the boxer entertaining trade offers so I -- idiotic it was -- the pick right there when the -- was reporting out of Kansas City that the chiefs were listening to had spoken with -- all the teams seven to ten I guess. Without looking to trade down still get their offensive tackle and maybe pick up an extra -- and I think the key guy for the patriots is going to be Sedrick Ellis. Who could be on the board of sudden and then you're either talking about a trade down I don't know if you guys agree but if he's there is evident he can't trade down goals in the off the board you draft Sedrick -- what happy go with the patriots highlight a draft yet another defensive lineman. Any any better doesn't it how they look on defense I don't think it has to be Fred whose lives were saying before we on the air. You can keep Wilfork fresh throughout the season by given him ten to twelve plays off dirty game and Kevin Ellison there who's a great defensive tackle his own right. And that way if the end of the season and it kinda look like the defense got little worn down at the end of the season and one of the spots they don't have a lot of depth does that inside defensive tackles."

Play from 5:33[5:33]" We'll Mike Wright was hurt so right and you know what. He's there when Mike Wright is healthy just what I have -- nose tackle he's a guy you know he's a guy it is not pleasant kind of I don't know when but that's. Swim I my friend if you got to know tackle when the patriots are in the third down passing situations they don't really play -- nose tackle spot now but Ellis can get to the quarterback."

Play from 5:52[5:52]" That's the thing I think he's a guy won't listen to a fork in my opinion vessels -- the NFL but I think Ellis has little bit more pass rush so you can use -- a 43 I'm third on third down passing downs I think it gives you more flexibility I you know like I said do you fled before we came on. I think bill belichick's rules are pretty simple but there are exactly right. I want 300 pound guys at the top of the draft who can run who can play I can find me a quarter in the second third fourth round."

Play from 6:19[6:19]" I agree with that I think that. I think they want to get to the quarterback a little quicker this year whether that means. You know guy like rivers her work Alex Sedrick Ellis from the inside I think. They feel they want to get the ball out of the quarterback's hands on those passing downs it protect it protect. A secondary that may not be you know one of the strengths of their deep that if you're right Fred and I think that's a you know blue -- looking at it because I I do think it would annual gone you probably going to -- have to try to do something. To help all that secondary and in another way. He can get the pass rush a little bit better now they have a lot of sacks last year -- there were times late in the season especially maybe this is backs up Tom's point about the defects may be wearing down a bit. Whether that the Rusch wasn't quite as good I thought. In the Super -- for example they had a lot of pressure on Manning but didn't quite -- quite an even didn't quite get Darren and you know I'm not David talking about the fateful plane right -- kept -- talking about throughout the day but -- throughout the season they did have a lot of sacks but a lot of them like. You know a good game garbage time artist I'm sad yeah I agree you know teams were just what to do one thing and you just unleash the dogs. You know they weren't like early. You know what trends -- acts but just think Fred now you -- and you'll raise your orders are phenomenal. But we always mobilcom scheme for that so -- you have Thomas and Vrabel on the outside. Yet the defensive line. That would have -- war war in Wilfork and Ellis on their. You might not -- corners -- yeah -- process that's my point I think. So you know I thought. Earlier does that no way to going to take -- outs but. You know which Gosling who is known for being pretty accurate especially the top ten picks. Hasn't taking Sedrick Ellis as far as they've they've. People that have said they know what's going to happen of the top five citric Ellis is it up among those so he could be available that we should preface -- We think it fells is on the board don't want to trade down first that's option right one I think that's always good to be option number one but if he's there I think the value. Makes it so you have to take a look at some pretty sure the way build LUH players he's probably near the top of the draft -- and at seven I think the value is just too great pass up on -- assuming Mickelson got a social legal also has local board right I think that if goals in order. Rivers is available I think the patriots will pick him. So now. I I I have that means they have you take rivers overdose. I'll always saying I think that would be a terrible mistake well I I I think that's true that's good value. Rivers made a lot of plays he was playing well so I you think he might they might it what does that mean is that one of those off the wall -- they know they have I know that they have their eye on two linebackers so I'm assuming those of the -- male. Acts well you know I a lot of drive may have -- I've heard those still by the if they trade down. Like in the 1516 area I like rivers bad but I'm not sure is a better football player than Cedric outside this supposed to -- to -- point though because bill always says it. -- value so as sudden. -- your value. I don't I kind of agree with that I think he's a better play -- yeah that that'll go into that whole thing is -- draft for value -- need is I think if you -- rivers over -- it's definitely need over value. All right so why is saint Louis taking so long -- entertaining trade -- I think that's -- that's the thing is they might come. Chris long like -- guy they want to draft if no one wants to move up to number two and give them you know an extra pick return. You know and in exchange that I can understand I just simply Chris -- mom had the audacity goalie draft considered a stable entity. Pick the limelight away from wells sitting here is another thing but mugging for the cameras threw it. Fred has been complaining since I got here anyway that how long have the audacity to go to the draft with -- I didn't say going to the draft -- on camera I actually. His son is on ten I actually saw that one point called the camera Aurora -- and he said he would get me from the sound that is not that is right right. I was Indies you pointed out if you've ever watch a Virginia game on television eagles out of his way to stay inside behind the models is another -- oppose his like the anti Archie Manning like a -- guy does tragedies -- coming up to the."

Play from 10:30[10:30]" Podium and guys it's their selection -- didn't -- thinks it's the -- o'clock so. The pick at the end. And they didn't announce that they were situated shoulder commissioner of the NFL it's going to walk up music is young man's name Chris small. For the name of Glenn Dorsey we assume unless they go completely off the map and shot the entire world. St. Louis Rams made their choice and the falcons -- on the clock so looked -- said let's go get from your Mike."

Play from 11:02[11:02]" You think it's going to be Chris -- that. I thought the last couple days can be replied I really thought -- only -- okay so they're not actually announcing yet the cart has been delivered to the podium you know by pins Willis the badly will be just -- no let's say -- shadows in Paris you know once -- the time worsened which I get a little -- they said the commissioner's -- oh wait star he's not there yet the problem -- the NFL network in cricket which I've been on TV for four hours already. There's nothing left to talk about -- at bats and he's a are right here comes ago."

Play from 11:35[11:35]" But I think. Roger Goodell as -- I don't -- yeah he's very."

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Play from 11:59[11:59]" ESPN -- ahead of the commission. My little whatever -- draft news you watch ESPN arms out about this web don't think two picks I don't like -- durable. I think reach this I that's what I put in my post that the rich -- even nice little player I. Understand the rams thinking of moving here -- inside. I just I would Indiana's I don't know Chris long is a great pass rushers in my you have two guys that once I figured he put our pass rush. If you watch the great pass rusher would you go Gholston there I think yes. No more pass rushing ability I just. I don't know the first two picks I think we'll probably be decent NFL players yet. But got a feeling some the guys drafted behind them going to be much right both these guys to the going to be Willie McGinest the -- have long twelve year careers but. Not live up to what they should have been at the first and second picks in the draft strong statements from -- to Sally may be -- only time will tell if there were correct. That's how -- sign rich guys like that -- well what you had to say if they're correct or maybe it just a little bit right or. I don't know Eric do you think they're right that's basically rich guys ingested when he says it could be. -- on water I don't know Glenn Dorsey what do you think 11 of the other people Chavez was somebody else. Web radio pictures dot com email address we -- until. 6 o'clock eastern time three -- six yeah. And yet that I would do that for a big big big stage I was sick of credit to 57. Surrounded by. Sitting at number seven this sixteen bit right but -- the guess is that particular pick out apparently they've gone to Ryan because right everybody in the world thought they wanted Dorsey now it's Ryan and who knows that the just like -- around Atlanta told me they didn't want Ryan I try. I don't know why."

Play from 13:48[13:48]" I don't know when it's over the same thing and nine people I don't know Steve Weis -- has -- yes. Well this is -- did -- trust first draft and and the way he put its newest as Steve -- Fred is. The beat writer for the falcons video -- journal constitution and deputies of the same stuff to India for Columbine. He -- in the trough wanted to build in the style of the patriots to build on the lines out sort of you know. Glenn Dorsey was the -- that made the most sense if available obviously he is. Dumb and now today Adam shifter reported that they gonna pick Matt Bryant if he's he's the guy so what the numbers -- quarterback."

Play from 14:28[14:28]" That bull crap team I can't even think you guys. Wasn't requests Redmond is starting quarterback and Redmond and I still have left which have now all that's Chris -- originally that won't. I don't did he lead about every I thought maybe I play and whatever but I thought that was because Bobby Petrino was there. I thought it was going in as the starter at least you know. I'm glad that Matt Ryan is this the only thing but I thought I heard that they don't have -- don't -- having more interesting I think on the quarterback issue beyond. Obviously trying to get quarterback who can play. If they don't take one now. Then they go another year into it then Mike vick's getting ready to come out of jail. People start saying well maybe Mike Vick can combat if you have a new franchise quarterback the doors close might -- era is over now let me ask you this little. The falcons though that the probably not going to be that great next year now although part of the scouting prices as you scout a year ahead. So maybe they have three quarterbacks next year rated ahead of Matt Ryan and how do you guys out there. There was no quarterback next -- worthy of a first round pick okay about or about August say in the process. If they believe that next year they're going to have a couple guys that they like better -- no idea if he going to be able to get them. I don't clinching -- behind but you're always talking about I mean we know that the patriots. -- went back and forth when they had made the trade Lester do we think we can get a better player next year probably we always all the that happens. So if you think Ryan is not a franchise really type guy you think that sure you're going to have a couple other guys or the second round pick why you have raided -- club right you can stop right -- you don't think Ryan is a franchise type guy you don't pick with the third break period. I don't think girls you know there's been. Terribly varying degrees on him I've heard people say. He's comfortable every quarterback that's the -- last five years if not the best and then people who think he's just -- run of the -- I have to be honest with you know that I about a Chad -- And I do like -- to Michigan but if you take that physical skills that I think -- goes to the right team he could be a better role. The righty in because he throws the ball well he's got a strong arm now that's a lot of ifs but that's what I'm saying when you have that -- the first quarterback of for meet you we all should be saved this -- the bat well Jamarcus Russell I don't care these 300 pounds coming out he looked like he had all the tools to be he had a strong arm and he still might be a good player I just don't -- and right and I just kind of an average player."

Play from 16:48[16:48]" I strippers -- was one -- pounce on our lack of knowledge Chris read about Joey Harrington DJ Shockley by the way right now like shot. Most of the -- quarterback where the falcons and Georgia well I know -- is growing and I think it says they happen. And initially he had Chris long eighteen just change it to a B plus the great -- down in five minutes. But they said magaziner was that Ron -- that it loses doesn't expensive to be start crying and -- my buddy who's -- bears originally drafted Benson -- well that's terrible lately but Matt Ryan is that pick he was on the phone and his parents just deal on the I've I -- and other -- I let these guys do we sit she ever -- Tony on I don't know what he's where he's getting this but he thinks sources that say. The patriots have traded their first two picks to Miami. In exchange for Jason Taylor and I don't I'm not well. I'm not buying that at all not by and it's a bad it was a great for the dolphins right they. Because I don't I out of the way about him live's dream on the radio show I really don't think Jason Taylor's work number seven. Nevermind call out seven and already I wanted to trade to get 22 -- 28 trade one of those do you Jason Taylor. Someone wrote a blog not sure why how he's onstage wearing a rams -- a we gotta go play a little choppy this on the -- feet. Fix that little choppy this in the life in to a gender or do something. Guerrero do some than somebody Sosa was around around for you guys year's Indy heat and add anything going right there's got to be a terrible cease -- But I don't know why you guys so worried about it it's only averages broadcast -- she's human only have about eight million people listening -- Chris is out there the brownies -- commission going to write if I was the other."

Play from 18:30[18:30]" To a quick first round and no one would be there the 2008 -- right. He Atlanta Falcons like yeah -- yeah."

Play from 18:45[18:45]" Drive Boston -- goes to the falcons is that she is still second fiddle on ESPN and -- will need each of the well the good news for the patriots is that they're getting closer and closer to these. You know millennium -- we'll. Isn't it I was sidelined that in my opinion this is a keep it too because if the raiders take -- batted Bender almost guarantee that someone's going to be on the board for the raiders after the patriots yeah now they know Dorsey year. In the jets take McFadden then you have less to a -- yeah there Dorsey Ellison Gholston. And it could go over lives 67 al Davis to be like me seem once and Paul lo. Interesting dynamic here at the top of the draft in all three guys chosen so far four letters in their last name. Interesting to know you didn't say they were all right I would I thought you can say what I was going to -- All right and in the interest in what was the last time that happened a long long running as a fourth or let us know less than I I think -- it's -- to what I variety rather I'll. This has five players I don't know this is like Spanish CH is one letter. That's right neither has a small -- that's one big ass hat it was look back a little he would. He looks ridiculous. -- you know especially you guys -- out of he'll look like an asset your draft your not special guy is a tough Ryan's done. Eric -- my doubts about him those intermediate throws -- and Alex's left and right these to a pretty strong arm Chris long and -- hit it out there what bet on record overruled pretty what is going eleven pro bowls I want an unwritten. He wrote -- it was a reach that on three pro bowls two of them will be an injury alternate replacement why is how we long go to this well struck out. I web radio pitches that come -- the email address we got a lot of emails coming in -- coming in fast and furious people want to get. Match Jason Taylor stripped sentencing -- not Scioscia says it's strippers -- thank you strippers not for strippers is good enough for anybody else. Let's see jays from England is checking his salute by he says if you know anyone who's at the draft text them and call them and get that to boo everytime Roger Goodell goes to the podium it would be funny as hell. If it caught on in the crowd just booed every time we got to it caught sight of him on his cell one guy boom boom boom. I don't know anyone at the draft. Earlier I don't I don't want to know anyone across -- last night the F cowboys pulled off the trade with the dolphins they traded. A Daiei that is saying why do you ask -- How do you say no -- in Adele Adele and Fasano 44 round pick one of if I don't yeah in -- Clark says that that trade is a steal for the dolphins these older guys -- talent great did not pro bowl talent but yet talent I don't Daiei is worth a -- by itself. Cause your boy at Dallas and get to the bottom of --"

Play from 21:45[21:45]" Yes I'm Marty at the bottom of that arm he's the worst player on the defensive that includes Roy Williams burger night we're talkin' like two months ago. Talking about he might not even make the team this year he's awful he's an awful football player anything he had has gone. Fasano would slip to the third type deadbeat deadbeat now by Tony Curtis last season the only actor. -- yet about the after -- Now Parcells obviously loves Fasano who's he's infatuated with Italian players for some reason really can't it cannot rally that put up I just to be. That's what you might decide no problem motivate the team is the third tight ends and which would call it now I can't pronounce his name -- screwed me up -- and they'll tell you probably would have been caught trust me if if there's any cowboy fans out there. They complain more about it -- they do Roy Williams high stakes."

Play from 22:34[22:34]" Tom and -- and -- us now not to make this cowboys football reprieve but. Inside or outside he plays inside. I don't yet. Now is there any way it maybe this opens the door from Bobby carpenter to that was what I somewhere where you know what I think it is Zach Thomas is going to get the starting spot and carpenter's going to get war. More reps in the that's what it is I think is that they feel that carpenter offers more upside now. Ended this guy was expendable he's he's not that I mean the better part of that trade for is probably Fasano if they can. Did -- that's a good pick up from Miami now cross on I don't know what other cowboys have -- it is the block as -- pass catching tight end they already have a couple guys that blocked so it that's not necessarily a big loss for them but as far as Miami goes he'll probably be their starting tight add. I think a deluge just throwing guys I don't even know they'll start their he -- Are right -- of muscles that -- always was Italian to last night and Nadal. I shot at largo Florida says what are the chances the -- trade the number seven pick. The Bengals -- number nine in a third round pick out with the Bengals taking Ellis in the pages taking rivers. Is there buzz going around at any other team interest in trading with the patriots in if we hang out to the pick he -- drafting Ellison running it what three defense this year. They won't run before three but could they get Ellis they can do a lot of different it always a going to have the ability and that's why I I -- is they always have the ability to do either one you know -- natural Bill Belichick came here saying back in 2000. Is that he he wants to be multiple he wants that it in weather in the fourth three of the three Ford is the same principles that they used defensively by that I mean they're going to play two gap. It's just different players and a different spot. I think that given the given his choice Belichick will go with a three floor. In a west a situation comes up with Ellis is just so good th