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[10:13] ..." He won -- I mean I want a guy in Bill Belichick system who is a good field manager. First as a quarterback I want to smart guy as my quarter I think this"...
[34:19] ..." bales a much better figure in the -- here's what I'm going. Bill Belichick has never drafted a linebacker about the fifth round since he's been here and he chose to take a guy in the"...
[39:09] ..." via trade -- off the board learned something from me. I think Wes Welker is better than a nice little player I don't I think if James Sanders played next at read Jane Sanders will be Wes Welker. "...
[41:48] ..." colts in the patriots you have to have quarters especially with -- Wes Welker now. You know three quarters that's about starting in the NFL -- I thought the course played pretty well in the yeah"...
[43:54] ..." a bad cast -- Bruins to a -- who's going to feel Wes Welker is terrible audience do the serious stuff and -- animal opened up and just make gay jokes and he's funny now. I'll"...
[44:51] ..." type of attitude you have to move on if -- learn from Bill Belichick. Last year is last year were moving on right now."...
[51:01] ..." It did not -- and he says that he thinks Bill Belichick is rating NFL dot com scouting reports. So far he's drafted O'Connell who they compare to castle in Wheatley who they compared"...
[1:23:18] ..." All right well that's it for the fourth round for the New England Patriots their next pick will come in the fifth round number 25. Of that round so we Gilbert aways to go for the"...
[1:29:39] ..." does very -- I mean. Idling Mike Richardson the -- I think Jason Webster is a -- I don't think. Well all right Lewis Sanders as -- I mean already you go with a 53 guys"...
[1:30:16] ..." those we legitimately have. I agree with you wholeheartedly and you about Jason Webster and all of the guys that they signed. Tank Williams Lewis Sanders jays it was a Fernando Bryant there are all going to make the team I think only Bryant I think Miami is tied for whatever reason I have Bryant being well above the rest of those guys agree because he's way better than the rest but if you listen -- the way people talk about Jason Webster. He should be thought about like I elbow but I don't isn't going to play I don't listen to what people say."...
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[2:02:13] ..." I'm linebackers and quarterbacks in free agency they've brought in victor hobson Jason Webster Fernando Bryant Lewis Sanders in the draft they added to rod mayo Shawn Crable Terrence Wheatley in Jonathan well I. I'm confident"...
[2:03:14] ..." in getting. Some wide receiver thing this year is no doubt in Bill Belichick said it before that they need to get speed on the -- And you know so far that's what they've done they"...
[2:23:47] ..." must've Matt -- worry shape for castle really because -- he and Wes Welker made it good partnership but PFW the other week still I guess that's what you get for playing crap against Miami when"...
[2:31:57] ..." a -- conceal. I believe he's another one of our kinda receiver Wes Welker Caucasian I believe that I -- it. Our last -- list that I don't like. Does anyone have a picture of --"...
[2:39:48] ..." other one the homosexual quarterback. Well I'm not sure I -- ruined Bill Belichick will be doing his press conference today but it will be sometime after you know I'm the best team didn't win sometime"...
[2:55:39] ..." all week. Lob so -- DFW coming up may seventh and up Bill Belichick live tonight -- pictures dot com. Thanks for listening we'll see you next week"...
[0:02]" Paul and me. Yeah this is stuck in the above the league not this equipment but the bottom of the banana and sees POW in progress and he's actually London. How do you use -- And some that quiz him about IZUZ you have slogan all it costs in this room right now PFW -- these three guys right here is some of the most comical slogans. So reds hitters I'm curious how does one -- works -- it does say falcons barn that may. The idea was simply -- bonus a book and I pinnacle and I don't. Yeah so I'll -- yeah. I'm -- The horror so yeah and good luck you -- so he had to park. You can also look at me. Could you teach me how to so -- I don't want you here who -- smart you're an expert. Yeah I -- in college. Steve you ever run out -- this -- what makes -- an unusually -- and I hope he's happy with the news that the golf and -- just what you what color. Part of the patriots football networks -- the devils -- on the same --"
[1:42]" About the the PFW of progress they -- of our special draft extravaganza Ian here. On -- dot com radio. It and things are happening fast and furious we're now into the fourth round the patriots since we last talked. Have had three more picks after their first picture rod -- the linebacker. They went with Terrence Wheatley the quarterback in -- tell yeah I've done my research on and I'm very excited about this picked. This is a guy who's smart. Who's played quarterback his whole career through high school knows the position inside and out. Fast in the fourth three rain so is there also returner. I might not that's all about 59 but this guy knows football very very intelligent player very excited. Then they -- which Shawn Crable. After trading away a third round pick they ended up taking Shawn Crable little later on. Linebacker out of Michigan all guy about 65 ranging outside linebacker. Excellent edge pass rusher very excited about that -- and then. For some people little bit of a shocker but when you think about it makes a lot of sense Kevin O'Connell. Quarterback got to see Diego state this is a guy. Who is a leader also good runner strong armed Lotta people think this guy could be he sticks around 345 years that the the successor to Tom Brady so. You know it doesn't look good for Gutierrez or Matt -- this point. But here's a guy that you know the patriots are definitely looking into the future with this draft they knew they needed to get. Faster run D -- the other thing that we've been talking about the the last three years. Who really is the patriots back up quarterback and they. Right now this guy kids out this is the guy O'Connell."
[3:35]" Yep but I don't. We were just talking about the as the Brady goes down for the season that's all we're let's be we don't care who the back -- What if it's road 23 game stretch I don't think Cassell or Gutierrez can win a game endlessly by opinion of Cassell although I'd like it was a person. If the patriots caught him you'd never hear his name again ever no team would that no team would pick him up he would make a roster you'll find out and August yet and so I think this guy has a lot of tally Indian Eric have been -- about Adams they came back from -- Columbine. In it makes sense because one of the things I don't think teams do well the NFL. Ski enough quarterbacks on the roster you know Joe Montana had a back injury that nobody was expecting -- that kind of caught his career even shorter than they thought. I know what to Kansas City what they had Steve young waiting in the wings. So if you have that. You could not only have a backup repair which could also trade those guys like the Packers were still successful at doing. Musical problem is patriots haven't been very successful doing it. -- Kingsbury Cassell. -- don't think those -- your latest blow those were late rounds like yeah Davey was or right so he's Wendell Davis stunned him."
[4:44]" I have all the gangs all here IndyCar that I all Eric red Gary yes you -- cradles not a great pass rusher. He's a good outside linebacker he made a lot of tackles for loss in the backfield and they get like seven sacks but. One of his thinks he needs to work on becoming a more consistent edge rusher -- he's got a lot of moves just that tall guy so we can block he can fill up a lane and long arms long arms are you know they keep that down some passes so. He's definitely going to be a guy who's you know. Can increase that pressure. When other teams spread it out again we talk about this yesterday. I think the the biggest weakness the patriots have as a team was when other teams spread them out on defects speed at linebacker in. So they've addressed -- little bit of that with -- male and Shawn Crable so it's going to be interesting to see what happens here you know with the line -- situation you know. Not everyone can stay so you know who get cut I think this really dumb. Adds to the what I think Junior -- not coming back this year they could they lost Rosey Colvin now there's rumors that. Holy in his thicket of us signing him and Indianapolis so he probably won't resign with the patriots so."
[5:59]" I think there's no chance again don't and a money he had. They they were done with that they they moved on and that makes Ensberg -- Colvin personally you know going up in Indianapolis probably you know going to a team -- He knows who played patriots at least once next year not voice. You know that's not yet been guilty on my whole -- is a -- Brett has seen that yet also I don't believe you mentioned in the news run out the top patriots at least via San Diego Chargers get a second round pick next year -- and early third this year and aura Jacob Hester. Yeah very Jack of all trades master of none Jacob -- guy who was probably a little. You know slightly better than he ever so you know he you know he really is Tom your right. Eric what all of the often T although I think well Brett federal role player yet but it's a similar thing they did last two they saw a guy can used to a lot of things they went got a."
[6:51]" All right I'm couple things they have to point out I'm very disappointed with the NFL draft tracker this thing just blows up right now. I just went to it in and get I have a page will code money espionage were confined to the news is it's not crisper -- ball. Or is so I'm very what do you think of the coverage though but I think the NFL network's -- yeah I think I excellent I think that you know like you said it's it's. It's dry bones it's what we want -- if you are if you let's face it if you're watching the draft on a Sunday afternoon you're a hardcore football thing you know looking for all the bells and whistles you looking for information. I think when there's a pick made. They go right to may not rise in the analysis of they've got paid college he was right right yet and I love them any good I don't I don't know."
[7:37]" is -- PFW favorite that's what we want that's what ESPN doesn't do what do picks made. I want you to go to maniacs we can tell us about the -- That's what I'm looking for and the O'Connell pick they eat they talked about that for fifteen minutes debating why they dated what do you know Brady Cassell. I guess NFL dot com had a comparable player for Kevin O'Connell the guy they used Matt Cassell which I don't that's on it's an excellent there I think it's unfair Kevin O'Connell that's an autograph -- I'm -- any plate. Stronger arm can run better yet that's you know. You know web site I go to -- college football lose. In the -- breakdown every college game for the upcoming weaken you know for certain reasons I would look at San Diego State they were playing everywhere and every week they raved about this guy in college football loses actually website right get a lot of my prospect ideas from because they talk about some unknown players. In every week they would talk about Howell con old to be unstoppable I didn't see him play personally but I -- they liked him -- they're pretty good there valuations well has anybody heard yet about you know his field awareness in. His sense for the game and how -- he is as far as Xs and knows yes. When we were at the common one news reports Rica that we so from from some of the scouts who worked them out and talk to them said that he. They compared him because they couldn't. Big of a quarterback that baker compared to at the moment it's a lack of any one he's as close to Vince Young as you can get. -- okay that's not good -- not accept that he's probably better at reading defenses and young ones at that point -- because Alex because he does have good running ability yes I act as as far as the lettuce is in the compared young but they think he's more chances artery why is that not good -- For Vince mean -- big jump played for the patriots have had these receivers you don't think he'd be any good he's an accurate. He's an accurate and -- is because Eric Moulds is leading well seed Tennessee whatever he's an accurate you you know US actor -- are in college football league came into the."
[9:33]" And you asked Eric if anybody at any started puts on his field awareness in his ability to read deep sense of value saying. They compare to Vince young and that's not good because he's enact it and I just totally different Eddie doesn't have a good field awareness of the two but now nobody really like the but what are you basing that the second part of that I'm because IR guy come in. When rookie of the year as a rookie and then bring a really really. Bad teams -- playoffs or second year."
[9:56]" At that -- it means nothing. -- as company you know nothing -- are right now I think now what people tell me all about stats here and -- you know that and for the -- that young had -- that no he didn't. As he did now we won games he won games."
[10:13]" He won -- I mean I want a guy in Bill Belichick system who is a good field manager. First as a quarterback I want to smart guy as my quarter I think this guy I'll turn into that. And yet another example he played in to a those post season you know -- senior all star game right things. And and in one of the games his team just got destroyed there were two other quarterbacks I think that played before him were terrible. He came on the field and just started lighting in up like 150 yards two touchdowns that right yeah and how we got the starting job right -- on -- and which started out where you are talking about also talk about this year's already all the All Star Games this year and Tom were you saying that and all -- All Star Games at the fences were dominating. Yeah and the ones I saw and he came in and he came -- and -- and they weren't that yeah. In both games he played he was he was statistically probably the best quarterback on the field he's Ben Roethlisberger I believe he might he got the starting job San Diego State the same way I'm not positive but I think he came in to a game. And did the exact same thing and ended up being a starter before years will be starting for some of the team. Well then that means the patriots got some new you know draft pick we have absolutely you know I know Michael Marty's been on TV talk about the Packers used to draft quarterbacks because you can never have -- many good ones -- either have a -- team or you'd trade him for draft the next. Right so where you can you know -- you know and look we like Matt -- submersible face the guy never played in college. He hasn't played in the pros yet so going and that philosophy he has an even developed the value yet. Right you can't trade him for anything right any peaked about this time last year when I was raving about the news first day of mini camp and then from then on it looked terrible and it's not -- all -- threats out of oil field awareness and all that. How in the heck can you have that if you have played in seven years and you don't play now that's true and -- respects me apiece as Vince -- nickname in college was radio. As -- is retarded. So -- doesn't strippers like Oklahoma State and that comment again in his intelligence level has not into what -- asking about that's what does. I want to smart quarterback. -- don't talk about field awareness and whenever that that's part of being discussed and I don't ask me about his ability to understand an offense and totally different -- OK so it doesn't explain does he get the ball where it needs to go or to Zito allowed interception I don't know. Okay I watched the last two years and I think that was the first well not got the ball went where it was most of cable is inaccurate -- I think I I don't think he's -- the field awareness of Tom Brady just didn't and Vince Young Amanda what he does he's obviously been an outfit -- we there yet Tom Brady you do not Tom Brady you're no good all the I want to know Manning is are you can't ask me that got Peyton Manning got pretty good in me might stick around but it is asinine bill's point. We know you try to turn this into a positive thing here Fred well let's uncle report when you say field and it's -- you'll also talking about. You know when to step up in the pocket when to run when -- passing well that's when -- get -- I'm talking about Arnold awareness pocket awareness is one thing. Talking about you have -- Just -- of big picture in your mind of what's going on with -- all the pattern that you're not locking in on one guy. You you know you know you know from what the defects is showing -- 11 side -- what that means immediately without even looking what it means to the other side of the field. It and that's the kind of thing that helps any quarterback make quick decisions I'll say there's at least 25% of the starting quarterbacks in the league right now Q -- I was going to go fifteen. I was just gonna say maybe all the quarterbacks in the NFL that Manuel -- want to I don't think I -- said that there's not enough good quarterbacks who go around Tony -- seven years on alert learn how to do I agree with that Brandon -- as one of them. That -- do that. Oh that's good these that is none of the quarterbacks go around. If you gonna compare to Brady and we got now this young make up that in other places right away and by the way. You know. Give me give Vince Young -- lost I think all the suddenly becomes more accurate well that's all day -- guys that just flat out drop the ball. Our it will these guys love Vince Young at that point what you do I love guys who wins others are. You know I remember -- getting very offended when people call them uncle Rico when he first came into the league and I was right he doesn't horse who year's winner in college he's a winner in the broke the bottom line Fred is this place is it is about that he -- slim. Two years to playoff appearances per average football team that's the bottom line right there. Okay strippers continuing to send things in to back me up but I wacko. They're so as his first two by as stripper salvage on the looked so retarded when he played the university alcohol I ask about those games. I quote we're just before strip -- prospect you expect in -- he made the -- I think -- Arizona don't know I'm that I tunnel last week and he had a loss there are -- getting back to the patriots. -- with the first pick guys what do you guys think of Terrence Wheatley with the the second pick. I was surprised as -- right I mean there. Eric when you and I were -- in the mock draft that one day. It was either him with a guy from Nebraska in the seventh trial remember we were debate I -- idea and I do the page we did that we do the patriots like that. -- they had worked in my old Nebraska -- know in the Wheatley right we were going back and forth. And I think we were also prized right to see him go in the run that I was -- I've very evenly. Alia well especially considering -- Freddie loves the especially when you consider that he's. 59180s companies basically and Ellis Hobbs sized player I've seen I've -- by the way I think the 59 is inflated probably -- and then the very next pick the giants took a guy we all like -- at least I -- ball and I like that Terrell Thomas from USC 61200 pound corner. So maybe you don't like the -- of whom. -- I don't love it -- say -- but it's clear I think it's my least favorite pick that they made so far yeah no question but it's clear that the patriots like the small quick corners they like the speed like the guys that can change direction fast they're not looking for the 61 guys I like Thomas I thought he would have been a good pick at about the giants -- player in the very next election. But -- this guy can return kicks which I'm guessing he'll do from day one if -- if mortality -- speed right and productive you know you're talking a guy like Leodis Mckelvin played at a lower level awful bought -- is Korea's got fourteen Italy five last year. He had a little injury issue with a wrist that caused him to miss a whole season right. He had a broken -- last year but I think both those are not concerns moving forward and more than anything else. He sounds like the smartest human life he's very intelligent well spoken you'll fit in well with the team and as nice and I think he's --"
[16:58]" Kick returner in -- man from day one and I talked to -- good friend Albert rear down in Dallas. It hits -- an idea he had spoken to Dave camp pole while we lead before the draft. In can't vote -- at least the people's backs coach for the cowboys. In Campo told him that he's a good with the chalkboard very smart when it comes to the NFL and football by you know diagnosing plays that we know with the patriots. And you know since someone -- saying it's."
[17:23]" Right true since missing about the only guy like Chad Jackson and you know battle may be true but you know what fans are going to think they're going to say well. Look what happened in the super bully had a 59 Ellis -- and a six by bicycle or -- down no -- now I know -- fans are going to remember Ellis -- for that and they're gonna say if you -- the other night at a DB -- 61 that's supposed to -- haven't haven't it is not a lot of good quarterbacks that are that all at that point it's very tough to change position you know -- direction I don't I don't -- I don't want to beat up on Ellis -- well I just don't think he's that good I don't think he's an -- player. Arm if you draft and a guy in the second round and you hope he's Ellis Hobbs that's not good drafting spellbound when we talk -- lost that superbowl is something that last play bars touchdown a guy for the giants fell down on Randy -- Ellen I'll I'll -- sort of slipped. How did not fall."
[18:11]" How many different inside based in -- all lefty did you -- stoppage. It is embarrassing years if city in North Carolina says I was reading the Q&A without quarterback cornerback Wheatley. It noted a minor concern he was asked what he was doing when the news came in that he was picked by the pats and his response was I went to go change my parents at the air conditioning on and it was a little bit cold. So I went to go grab a coat. Now the AC is enough to freeze about what happens to him January of Foxborough it. I found it interesting comment because played Colorado salaam assuming outplayed -- other let's see strippers says one of the profile and info -- that he compares to Ellis Hobbs like cops we he's a solid shut down quarterback based out any time speed and a good and like not progression. He's fully recovered from wrist problems that hampered him earlier in his career showed much better tackling form of power behind his hits as a senior. Is excellent timing leaping ability compete for the ball in flight. It brings added value to kick -- returner. Makes good adjustments while."
[19:19]" The person who uses -- and shut down corner in the same sentence should be beaten to death. I mean that they -- as -- even close -- analysis made after he was picked by the patriot that was before we're sure that's just a general walker. You know I just listen whether it works uttered on I think we were all surprised by the -- I mean we thought those that -- maybe in the fifth round its round -- Yeah Phil and mostly relievers -- to be a pleasant -- you know hopefully he'll turn out to be what they think he's I think he's going to fit in just fine. Pot guys comment on Shawn Crable linebacker out of Michigan with like productive at the Columbine I really like that Pierre would up all of them I I think he's. A back up to start I don't seem having a huge role maybe occasional you know come in rotation only outsider injury would ever give -- a breather but I think he's a good developmental -- he has the size and he has some of the tools one of the questions is he sort of a one year guy and Michigan I'm not very productive into those last season. When he had to I think ninety tackles what I really like -- lot of plays in the back field and yet yet thirty tackles for loss seven and a half sacks. So that's to me that's what you're looking for that outside linebacker position I can make plays in the backfield he has a lot of negatives when you read them yeah he's that's why he's second third round pick guy instead of an elite Vernon Gholston guys not -- but he could be deployed as I don't like it when he hit."
[20:45]" down. He looks a little slow coming up out of this stance I know you always notice things like that -- yeah but I will say he'd pass that -- name test. Which started way back with Ray Lewis played at Miami that means when I watching game I hear his name a lot. In thats kinda how why allies. Look at prospects when you watched Tennessee play you heard male male male when you watched Michigan play you always heard Crable made which means he was around the ball even if he wasn't making plays. So you know in the when they took of I think it's a solid -- plus I don't all balls was really I."
[21:19]" Really liked him in a lot from one the reasons I'm just said just when you watch a lot of the Big Ten games there on TV every week. -- this isn't well known that I and I kind of agree with that I -- Fred made that comment before the show and I. I agree with that although I'm not so sure I agree with the Pacific ten analysis. But I really liked -- I thought that he was one of those guys that seem to make big plays seemed to come off the edge. You know whether reach into the all around linebacker stuff that Belichick is going to ask him to do we'll find that out. I -- but I mean I look at him as being a better player than -- what's now what you can -- coming in on those passing packages. Yeah and goodnight guys got a few precious I I agree just like Wheatley would be one of those guys."