PFW in Progress - 5/8/2008

Thu, 8 May 2008

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as the we discuss what information Matt Walsh has provided to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. We'll also discuss the recent rookie mini camp this past weekend. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, Tom and newcomer Erik Scalavino as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Listen LIVE Tuesday's and Thursday's from 12-2 p.m. and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 1:06[1:06]" POW in progress what you just said it is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard at no point. In your rambling incoherent response were you even -- PFW progress once again Thursday afternoon may eighth Gillette Stadium. But dreary day in Foxborough outside. But based on recent news reports maybe me -- day --"

Play from 1:41[1:41]" Matt Walsh has shipped his eight of the NFL the New York Times. Got their hands on the -- certified letter thing exactly what those tapes are going to contain. And by all reports that we're hearing it contains signals being taped -- but the X games over eight tapes from 2000 to 2002. Dolphins bills. Chargers Steelers I would say the only new information that provide in the Matt Walsh tapes is that taping of offensive signals we haven't talked about that much in the past. -- but not a huge jump from taping defensive signals offensive signals which are more limited because of the quarterback coach microphones so. There's some new information but first we need to rip somebody. And that's our boss -- As that opening just -- he's got a responsibility to get his bat as down here and post this radio. I came here Tom -- well -- not hear you grew up. -- he is here aren't -- your alms. Today's a big day -- and you know old but he's the leader he's supposed to be here Easley and he's not -- there older Bryant Maureen -- with this stupid museum it bothers me that I'm."

Play from 2:59[2:59]" Yeah I am I fully expected to get steady diet of threat courage today. With that Mark on his base in that you know dabbled you know oh -- green in I'm the -- smirk on base let's be honest he would have been. Is emboldened the word he can stay after the all right. But about rape -- Walsh and yet island of Hawaii -- yes and so and with the little I'm a little disappointed he's not here and I'm disappointment but it of the -- often that a in this stupid. We can land on you and bred strictly for two hours while I -- idea I was going to be over there reading they would have been in. Hopefully come -- and -- them. You could only take a 12. Yeah I -- Tom Tom accurately portrayed because it's in my mind I would -- I'll -- don't want to -- but I know at some point -- feel as -- No question that little important they will be the holes yeah casino in me that he'd be really you win and he knows exactly how to get me into one of the argument and I know he'd be look at point or all of the when he raised up awhile and I wouldn't totally. And that's what I could actually have degenerated into. Because it's a big issue and he's going to be unknowingly pulpit about it. That you would get mad at your -- allied air all the sudden they be instead and broke. You've got that one time I can't anybody and I got it. Cracked you over the so I think you know credit just costing our listeners entertaining informative angle he's going to feels passionately. About the topic what he's upper management right and he talked to talk with the crap I don't get that opportunity OE would've brought the most passion in that he's choosing. You know the carpet -- going to be in the foyer in this new museum of the under people -- I'm sorry couldn't possibly don't carpet. Eagles terror -- already anyways and that's what it is now rather than picking carpet for the museum with Brian -- maybe the only. Upper management -- yet yet it could be because they could be talking and look beyond the idea who in the herald."

Play from 5:16[5:16]" Has been thrown out there by a lot of different people based on the -- who may not necessarily for me is built on and on to hang in general I don't want to be -- legal observers the all the different people. And who knows maybe it is a possibility maybe for -- involved with them that we know he's day a mile and year that the crap here about they talked and he has ideas all that or could just be formulating. A public response doing you know you'll have some sort of released he puts out and -- could be involved on those levels that type of thing com. Julio but he should be here he should be here and they show -- big now between -- he should say I got a bright. Robert -- to you to my -- whole thing this is. I had to wait six months this. -- is also a month for them to talk to you know a longer time went -- we all. I figured he he's not going to have that one item that was gonna cause this story to be. Taking into whole model and we that was new that was the -- the the special because we'd heard rumors that the lawyer was saying -- we have new up in the what he had was often which is. It's different. But it but -- the NFL's academic. You'd think that they don't they don't want to right at me as if -- take the ball walk through you for yet though they have to come down yet. Well often at -- simply say that that falls in line with the patriots admitted. And that's the I don't -- what -- all the media kinda. When after -- they'd try to beat him to talk. If the day you know I have but you know it's not I don't have anything and equity deal -- and it just get all the."

Play from 7:08[7:08]" While -- Did this whole props to her because I think that look at that -- I think it was ten to make it look like what he actually out bread. I alone. Maintain what I've said all along in judgement because I don't know what I don't know how I'm gonna wait what happens in the thirteenth meeting. And and rule reevaluate him but right now -- doesn't have. What a lot of people openly wondered whether or not -- and I think the."

Play from 7:45[7:45]" And I'm just -- wondered why it. And his head. He let the rams leading goal -- the lawyers Kamal and say. He has certain things that he's going to turn over to the NFL but he does not have a copy of the rams walk through not eat -- nothing up -- and drop that idea to let it go."

Play from 8:04[8:04]" Further Tom and back and what you just about why today his lawyer. Kamal with definitive statement saying that he was not the sort of that February 2 story in the bought -- He could've done that six weeks ago. Over that now at there's no there's no identification needed for back. -- you know that that doesn't the state of the whole front of him. And the issue you have though dating back to a report. And sort of day. Crawl in the wires here is. Well just because it doesn't have the tape does not mean the practice was not -- which is why am reserving judgment of the thirteenth it would Matt Walsh as -- he taped. But I don't have a tape. And I think you need to reevaluate that -- you know based on what if you believe him or. Oh what -- what that a little bit more Matt -- perspective he actually did do anything. Now to get -- get what you're talking Ladainian we talked about the three of us as well which you know. Everybody now is completely missing herald report well I don't think everything that happened yesterday to anything -- the herald wrote the herald -- And I'm paraphrasing but pretty close. According to an unnamed source. A member of the patriots video department tape the walk through of the rams' Super Bowl bull thirty. Matt Walsh -- he's not -- okay. He didn't they didn't do any big -- That the taping didn't happen so why is everybody now automatically now La. -- story from the February 2 by Harold. I don't -- that doesn't agree I don't if that now my question is may thirteenth are we going to find out what he had --"

Play from 10:00[10:00]" You know that's -- NFL track crowd and say and why why but I I hope so because they've kept too much in the dark we get it all out there. They can be the goal weight icky icky things on the fat burger actually wearing everybody out after an active while they're trying to talk to. Back to want him to go to Washington named after he started you know that was not a basketball court Everett and trying to make. It ally all I thought that was just you know they don't have -- like numbers -- and -- it actually find out that. It is a formality in and it will happen by. Because if -- does that doesn't mean I can't hold a press conference every time -- the NFL though need to do it not that meeting. With with -- now while you know his disclosure I don't know who cut which saw that it doesn't really need to be in front of anybody that does -- have to press conference with the regular media I don't know what the -- ask but don't they do one little like tigers a much in the dark at this point. Bending over backwards right now I think there's an up and plus I don't take all and -- in large part the NFL's yeah."

Play from 11:16[11:16]" Delhi golf on TV law but he -- do The League -- on things. And spinning out of control but all that the topic of the day here at -- you know write angry with ball real quick though. If via -- at those eight that we think the same thing if they just -- those. I think that would have been. A much smaller deal -- levels. When you write that off. A media people a reason to accurately if the appear in pride bright and it's not -- human nature a month like trying to -- you do well they -- happened to be. I didn't really big deal all along that in the right -- and all of a sudden 44 pole can't. NC to Goodell talked predicting what to. At that I think why it was nothing on why become part of the picture if there was nothing graduate didn't make me and he kind of maybe it was a -- deal and I think it was a big deal that he can't say that we gave the harshest penalty over all right those two acts that his actions and Matt. And it got me you know. Probably -- tell my argument with the pupil who. Oakland delicate up front -- and I -- sort -- this Ladainian Tomlinson of commissioners everybody loved when he came into the at all these ideas advocate I'm going to be different and be open and all of a sudden he started doing office started hire a lot of control in the other way that you played games in Japan -- talking about the -- sound too and Tom made the point and that playoff game in 82 years ago -- it was excellent talk about. When a classy guy he was reporting to him in. And that's not his style -- from that point on he has done little right. He's he's actually become one of the more -- in the NFL. -- mighty -- trying to tell us. How good of a person he has done nothing but look like -- at an ever and I think in the ESPN interview continued because bill. He played a quarterback that it is the topic dirty -- what are tighter you know I mean like. 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Accountable to protect will the -- name is Eric. -- you -- terrible stuff and -- terrible up it'll work out an anomaly or buffer of the last three at bats though the actual eloquent as Eric you've been doing what to -- the next month might look at the paycheck and out Eric and I -- ready for what it quite however we haven't been paid true by how about if it progress up and pat and dish and that's growing you forgy old Indian. It was good because one -- probably all things patriots. Who wrote that Fred -- got a global marketing Greensboro, North Carolina all want no kicker situation. -- even got out. Is that likely on the evidence to eat less important particularly in the field goals and -- Noah built the -- ethnic. You want to meet a host you know right post negative why would benefit nova no pride not -- Tuesday Asia and I go what how I finally I want it to highlight the goal of the kind that we ones that they too far back that idea the lead. This guy you want to read like 34 or and you want to bounced around and then okay -- a no no gain to read Fred I think it's like two weeks behind a row criminal via a phone -- I don't look on with me -- ring Brian. Walk -- in okay now patriot talk online in print and off the cuff. An accurate via. Slogans or Rolen and now this one -- and from MPH. Man -- man quit now. Meant -- who by the way Andy I should come and Matt are you -- should let you take this one too. After -- emails me from time to time about different prospects. And he asked me about that -- the safety from Louisiana Tech -- heard much about like gable my opinion would you like to give him your opinion of -- I plays safety in no man's land and cut front try to make the play is an imposition to make a tackle. He's a camp body. -- but I. The Dodgers game and guys that the -- with the baby baby don't want -- with a glove on the other and caught the home run. I guarantee Jeter would chew me out when I came home if -- on -- feel to be an ad agent haven't glove and they also. -- not running in the opposite direction -- ball coming from 400 feet away. The only guy that it was glove at a baseball game Doug Flutie in order -- him hey guys I believe I have believed from the beginning that the pats cheated. Entrances and Quentin prison if it's MPH -- and I think you can find a million ways to minimize it but I do not believe that. The -- today clears the team the past wrongdoing. And I think it's a statement that will stay with them for a long time for a while -- clear. They're being clear from any additional terrible cheated being clear they were going to very hard. Very harshly for that -- there was a widespread rumor that they tape the walk through. At least. Put that on the back and next that being the case I think John -- has a credibility problem going forward covering the team and being sports reporter in this -- As journalist I wonder what your thoughts are today on what it must be like for tomorrow I always thought he was pretty good reporter he comes off as competent and -- on TV and radio. But let's -- He is radioactive in the town now. The herald the end by him today for a -- in the interest of better relations with the team. Is this the worst nightmare of a reporter who is under pressure to break story. My guess is that in by and he -- by as anonymous source and slowly make a graceful exit from the Boston. Please give us an idea of where you guys in regarding tomorrow and what he's going. Yeah I mean it's bright offered him -- even in the."

Play from 20:43[20:43]" It was more than me but I remember what the last classes like took as cool. Was talking -- how. How these anonymous sources are becoming more prevalent because of the Internet now -- are breaking stories. So papers you know 1020 years ago would normally not cut those public who had really strong strong at. And now it seems like more and more especially in sports you're reading anonymous or anonymous or."

Play from 21:06[21:06]" Because if you don't going to be a pro football hall and Euro competition -- at a lower standards or I totally agree with data -- unfortunate I'm but he was your it was I'd have to he couldn't print right that's what we -- like Rolen. Growing up. You know before it was -- in the all the president men was landmark movie in the mid avenues -- the Watergate situation it was a two story wood wouldn't. You look at him like you never heard of any I -- and -- in every -- am going to Africa you know okay. Anyway if Hoffman and Robert Redford play and Woodward and Bernstein and the big thing was and Bradley who was the editor of the Washington. Post whatever what I think all this odd -- he was played by blue jays enroll them. His big anyways I'm not I'd go I need to all that was hoping I don't but that's not too early to rule a rule -- Right but I mean there's my journal -- you would not ever -- and -- obviously there I mean if if Robert Kraft tells you you're reporter Robert -- acts you don't need a second press is now -- an interest in intimate."

Play from 22:22[22:22]" And about the how on the radio this morning I was actually get I don't I don't want to I'm not -- credit the person that that team up -- and on old newspaper guy in his. His line of thought why is mentality -- if I used an an anonymous sources and that story was proven to be incorrect. He had an agreement with the doors and he told them before he ever printed the stories that if this story ends up being untrue. And it comes -- that it's on -- and I'm going to -- was sort. And I went out and no exposure when that puts a little pressure and -- on an anonymous source. To not have an -- to ground was -- and and hope that no one ever finds out that it was him you know what it's wrong but that was kind of an interest in whale netted two but and -- of John. Arm I agree with -- I think that the herald will probably stand by him stand by the story and -- I think at the end game here are probably going to be it's my going to have to come off the patriots beat out there he's still here he was at rookie minicamp last week. I China's -- trying to get on with with business here I didn't going to be tough for him in terms of being in the locker mean in being around Foxboro trying to get people talk so I don't think that's going to be an easy thing. It happened in the past in this town the shot he was -- not a Celtics beat because he reported on -- story of a Larry Bird Mark -- I'll go or not the Bruins beat and really to allow it then frozen out of the patriots beat at various times. On the inflammatory things that he hadn't written. So not unprecedented I think that's going to have to be the end game here for John I don't to leave the area. On I don't know I think what happens is people around here -- did what listeners in a passionate and that they make a mistake -- a story. For being dead tomorrow he did this because he wanted to do want to get it wrong first of all we don't even know the wrong second of all. I really don't think there was any ill will or are malice involved on the part of tomorrow -- story on but it will be how would unfold on full."

Play from 24:27[24:27]" And you know if you guys only -- out there that I mean we know that he's been threat and his family's been threatened. You we don't need that nobody needs that it. It's sports you know easy -- we don't need -- Stanley threatened. Because he roll up for the patriots fans don't like it means that beyond. Acceptable and."

Play from 24:48[24:48]" I was talking about with the -- can use the fact that you're right it wasn't flattering for their favorite team with. That's what -- he wanted to the unflattering to the team and I think you know it it could have been a grant a ground breaking story about something positive and you would have been just eager to get that out there with an anonymous quote. On -- that's -- with the competition you wanted that's what all of all of those guys what was what we played a different level if we're seeing pressure we don't have that pressure we don't operate under -- it is now if you don't brick story of golf."

Play from 25:22[25:22]" It's tough -- we get emails a lot you'll read on message boards that. This journalism this journalism trusty journalism is that what you were taught school ten years ago anymore does with all this competition what all the pressure. It is not the same and that's why you're Ian Moore the unnamed sources that's why you like you that ball. You know I know Albert Greer said to me when he was leaving for -- is that you know this is going to be old world because. You know they tell you right there we need you -- breaks off or will replace -- excessive."

Play from 25:54[25:54]" And I guess in Dallas they actually do the replaced with a football crazy like oh yeah that in Boston. Those kinds of things were sad. No question but it was rare to see a guy who was kind of opened -- reporter kind of went about a there's everything got killed on his feet. And and you know that they would find another place for you know maybe -- the F I him. And that that regard and it into different up I'd never really -- gets fired because I didn't in breaking story but I think -- right on the Internet is increasing the amount of pressure on guys up front things in and hi and and its -- fashion at the rushed to be."

Play from 26:32[26:32]" For Eddie that only strippers let you know -- really you don't have to -- journalism major reporter break right for you have the dirty dot com that you know TO -- That and a pitcher of Brady which -- in and that will last night. How to I'd heard about idea. You know Monday night I was taken last yet or and -- now he hasn't been -- we can get to go to the metropolitan museum of art. For them gallop Monday night and A rod and -- he had -- party -- the A rod eighth brought in jay Z you you pick who's who -- in the yankees' -- and I know I I as I understand you are well Archie both of these of one involved with the you know why is that the lord has his wife his right you win. But yet Brady hasn't been Euro week of Fred you know and came back at that he'll be here February. And and he doesn't have the woman as you mister -- went to Europe he's in New York by by self but he's in New York on these parties you know just 'cause he -- doing. You know at that time you pectoral work out on my into my. I think we need to be careful to I think Matt is. We've all read the crazy comments on the Harold my Torre people getting way too personal way too angry. But I do think like we about a lot of these things that the small portion. Of the population here you're talking about right now I I don't you know fairly easily yeah are out of one -- there if one -- that the red white that's one -- too many you know right I agree with that but hopefully those idiots stopped doing that and just say the guy doing his drop right at you -- trying to. You go to Fed him with a or whatever well you know he was he was pretty. Awhile back beat -- let's work and I've ever seen his dad visibly up at any three guys I saw him on and right because that's when all those comments -- first -- and and you know he he he's away from home he's got a you know and -- think about it and etiquette threatening email about a family and knows. If one of these whack jobs actually going to write up on you don't have to like him as a reporter you could agree that we don't like that story you don't have to like or you don't have to -- you know they'll take it too -- were getting -- here and like this is our boy Alejandro and vocal Bogut Bogota. It but anyway he's happy that I guess he started the nickel package idea he happy that that's going strong with Aram yet sure Logan eighteen and one. We rent the game after a -- like many and I came upon and IP on Pete Mandarin -- you -- who -- it was going to back off on one I archive pages a day on a whole new life as I've vault on talent you can wait one more and hours at work reading all what one quick thing about Tony -- forty that is. There would be people oh cool all here yet -- the yet there was a personal life wouldn't that be great story or an ally a soccer ball was by believe -- talent was very very good. NFL writer and you wouldn't believe none of that that was brought up any short right feet and believed it. The opera climate is going to make you forget about all passed off line that's what tournament and it says that turned out to be above that number to -- My question is do magazines haven't interest in hyping players. And no hell yeah this guy with the -- I know it's got mad at among all -- team when he was cholera. And what comes first the height -- they catch on to -- to the -- been able to the next big thing we have Mark cover. And then the other thing that. I don't know if it happened back then but my guess is at this point -- all these huge marketing agent -- and agent -- CA ING. That there -- People involved and I don't know what you'd call it but you know getting there athlete play in magazine and I want -- to a story on. You know D'Brickashaw her to the next big thing offense and I think -- we've reached an age in the media where it. There's a lot of relationships that crossed over behind the scenes with agent marketing people. So yeah -- they certainly it's all about money and either get it it was -- a Little League and fell right. Well unless dale -- a favor for them and I think that let it I don't doubt we'll pretty low and I don't think FA I think it happens a lot and a final question is who is the George Steinbrenner of football Jerry Jones or in night. Com."

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Play from 31:11[31:11]" And and I believe Jones -- and I'd better have the same problem where. They actually want a win really bad I've never question Jerry Jones desire to win. My problem is he heard them all into the football Asian making as an older I think he's great. So I think human Steinbrenner that the -- that they want to win so badly. Sometimes they make wrong decisions affecting the team that's another good point to Steinbrenner done well you know life while he -- you have to make deal. Ideas Jerry Jones -- until he passed away apparently haven't seen him in two -- at the and the one final thing I'll say is I'm in criminal. I shirt nighter or Jones I mean they're crazy -- Numbers criminal right."