PFW in Progress - 5/13/2008

Tue, 13 May 2008

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as we break down Roger Goodell's findings from his meeting with former Patriots employee Matt Walsh on the teams videotaping practices. We'll play Roger Goodell's press conference in its entirety and offer our thoughts on what came about through today's events. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, Tom and newcomer Erik Scalavino as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Listen LIVE Tuesday's and Thursday's from 12-2 p.m. and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 1:22[1:22]" We're here and that this is a very special addition of PFW private because Eric's in -- I actually. As you probably know you're listening to this life right now. Any moment now automated thing that's 1030 commissioner Goodell will be trying to seeing the media in New York. At the Intercontinental hotel in telling us all about his little meeting this morning with -- the -- So when that happens we will go live right to it so you can keep -- into -- and you won't miss a word. Of the commissioner and let's get two genders operating reported what a difficult time. It don't worry about it what they've dealt humor Fred with a couple of that kind of a weird mood I know I'm I'm eager to hear what transpires. -- that asked that over three hours however. You know I'm I'm pretty sure that not the news going to come out of this but -- I don't know why don't they. You know anyone it up those people that -- in that room at this point knows what was said and were about to find out the you know. What do -- you can offer us I know anything that you know -- know no need from an organizational perspective right now is there will. With the patriots represented at that meeting. Yeah by I was told well I was told that there's somebody there not somebody that worked in the building but someone. Like higher bias that that outside voice an attorney yet that there. Now what's going on in this building right now like -- became -- that bonds is going on James is nowhere to be found probable you know I I hit a couple of -- Jonathan Kraft had it not about this but you know he seemed loosen not concerned. Usually if there's something really really important. Just don't get a response now what are they get an eventual do. Official is it possible the the commissioner called mister Kraft in this window we've had now for an -- in the meeting in that though just what happened to me -- the -- was called to New York. Though here -- not here mister -- not in the building he could be in New York that -- good yeah. I wouldn't take that as a good sign it was alternate I'd want to be or where I was -- what you all did -- Yeah I would want to beat it right he was yeah I wouldn't take anything about it if it's. Morning instead get here by eleven I don't know maybe it was yet I don't know when that happened well. I just know he's not here right now. I would certainly expect mister -- to be in. Not only been evident that the I would I would demand to blow blow it on the patriots in on the patriots attorney and I'm advising them. I would tell -- you do not ask questions help you I want to be there when Matt Walsh is making -- easy making sure OT -- lead at the Kraft family that he speaking sprite brand and all that after the I would want to be part. Absolutely what do witty intelligent is doing today. I know for a fact that right at 10 o'clock he was filming opting for the -- We're have we have an interactive exhibit where. He's going to help people learn about plays in different combinations -- you know he's got a like comment on though they're filming Bruins go about their exactly. It's like 9/11 -- fly planes go. Go take a trip -- You really I don't weird mood today. Like 9/11 golf quite -- yeah and well as Alex put that they have to let it go about -- this don't you know if you do and protect the -- of defeated Sweden if we stopped doing our business while we can't -- all in all the people who hate the patriots. You know get in the way apart this area that don't -- the Holocaust does Mike we got a line. We got to continue a little worried yeah if yeah Matt Walsh just like Hitler. 2008 is going to be an amazing year for the doing the patriots. -- here. It you base that I think it's -- I don't come out but he did EV ESPN power rankings that was the patriots won a with bat. You know I our panel I. Actually surprised that we didn't lead would bat at it best to keep ours -- shows he has he had power rankings are out of maybe -- go a little you know little leave asinine. All right one thing we did bring up coming down. On this fans I'm sure picked up on there watching the coverage of this is the very different owned that you give him watching ESP yen. Versus the NFL network ESPN is comparing it to vinyl basically that big of a threat they're just ranting and raving about how valuable it is how he could use it I trees that theory that's Cris Carter found a way to say that he got -- and -- and then you go to rich Eisen who doesn't understand how any of this crap could be used for it for acting you can't even -- to be somewhere in the middle. John Clayton state you know how they can use that the verdict that the -- in the use it during the game but it's clearly show on the -- that the had to be brought back. And -- piece together. You know the clock stopped and in our. My question they showed one of them is the one of the first things they showed was the Miami signals. But it was shot from a high angle end zone -- where where the film crews are suppose to be. So why are they showing that because I thought the issue would taping from the side now the the -- You know the beginning I think when they first started doing the practice filming the guidelines. You know the whole -- like you -- team run I'd like can't recruit wasn't prevalent. Teams were doing video with their coaches showed much in for the Internet. -- all they all the pitchers would do you know both teams have you know the -- coaches -- cameras all he would do is on the sideline. Over -- it and film it like it would be -- ain't right -- back for. But then what can't -- you know teams that team went camera -- of the Nightline the pitchers to took advantage of that. That well why should we because it was a better angled -- will have a guy. At the crowd -- You know focused on the action will have this piece together later and that's how I caught I caught but it wasn't it was never really legal to do it from anywhere right. Posted -- of the team's defense or irony that he called core beliefs interprets it the rule no matter what I what I. Isn't that right now no matter what what for what it's going to be used you're not allowed to film. The other coach that other and that was that whole you don't like it fixed structure with three sides and --"

Play from 8:17[8:17]" That's -- ambiguity with the memo that -- the memo clarified it. No videotape him what to be done outside of that but it don't it doesn't say you're allowed to take the of the team's coaches from anywhere. That's where if you go back and read it doesn't say a -- allowed anywhere. But -- you're not allowed to tape at all from outside that structure and and it says the hoping for use in the game. But it doesn't say for use in the game right if -- there's don't hate being in the game. But that was without the loophole that that -- jump."

Play from 8:49[8:49]" Don't through yet and that's why not try to clarify why -- in The League felt they needed to clarify 2006. Which it was a -- it was bully rate that would MO that you know for whatever reason the patriots chose to -- You know -- you know we got an email from a guy. What a party -- at this the guy like -- NFL network started department clerical position I think. Somebody might -- as from back and the differences of of the other two networks are really quite quite a contract clearly NFL -- house -- and NFL network is going to put us out of business and ESP. A -- twelve out of business well. You know is something that's been posting on the ESP in both and by the name of any idea -- your opinion and it just a hole right well I don't know that that's pretty convincing well. I read his stuff -- and I could do the same thing for the cowboys I think he could I I vote for this I'm but I don't and we did that. -- picked -- and I don't know."

Play from 10:01[10:01]" The cost is right trade the organization is run very closely I think I couldn't be -- I can tell you that bad at the tight end has great hands and they use them. We Texans -- you man and they love home. I -- to stop the being that is I think he could get that you if you listen the patriots up and just bile that I totally view and Fred don't think. If it was someone from the inside. That they would they Belichick with find out who I mean obviously know that the is being mean of PR department used those -- and everything. If there was information coming from here don't you think that would be stopped immediately."

Play from 10:37[10:37]" But they don't know who's doing well he now back and -- days -- I actually used to care cardinals' most people I would actually be. Working with him try to figure that I'll -- like them. Figure out on the ground now. If you can do you can extend their Bellamy. If I from my computer -- post and things out of message board about inside information here Yukio find out who know me. Now at birth Mark they don't do it from their computer. They do it from their own library is a laptop -- an era but you know where there's -- hot spot. You know because you can track the building from which came from and then -- a matter of okay now you gotta work with that internal IT department the you know which computer came from within that -- telling you rate him when there be some sort of conflict of in Boston to get it it would be presenting this is not a crime that was that it was a case where I think years ago it's a matter of fact I know this for a fact there was someone on the patriots bulletin board. Who was you know do we threaten violently threatening thing but if we had the plea got involved and it was. You know a young guys that worked at an office and they track that -- it was cubicle but that's different that's of a violent -- right is just the guy outing off -- there to meet. I would be I would think they would lose credibility any place that had Internet access that gave away that information for something as frivolous as this guy has right you know Donovan to protect him the teachers like him don't we did Tommy Ron you think he could be. It is for a -- Paul. I don't I don't think there's any chance in right. I don't think someone that was actually in the coaches in a circle would be on a match point -- week we feel this and we feel I don't think that would happen. No way I need it could be somebody that's the other thing if you were given inside information every single thing -- positive. Now they've ever said you know Matthew Slater is it is always as well after we should virtually you know -- and -- about the he's a decade they only had nine yeah I'm talking. That was a huge Indy -- by and we had 9 helping him added new one recently but I'll let there's like eight things about my game Eddie had one it condemns Ernie and I didn't read now. So I mean whoever it is that's -- that it's not a well it's Saturday want to get really you know I'm you know I'm sure there's people out. You never know what it could was in a long while what -- not very knowledgeable fan could probably do -- the 130 Adams came out like them. That I read this one. -- though I only had nine post yet. That that's another thing it's. But that the unit -- like this. That the bands will never worked against us again he needed the -- were Justin topics up Logan Mankins in end Olazabal you know what I mean right. That that was basically. Like in Diaw keeps -- and they got away one on one all across the field those things that bad defense won't work against us that's a good argument that this person doesn't know what the talking about because. Anyone who knows football who works for the patriots knows that that was a physical that was not a lot last scheme and -- it is exactly and you don't know. You know -- lighten. In the -- and in Logan -- going to get beat again that way you you can -- that -- he was always one of the most pleasant reporters around the team -- they needed to -- take him long you can hear the story for another indication that not -- out because scouts don't come in contact with them. So I was thing that was another indication is Burton has not talking about well you know I mean -- tomorrow the never relief. If anything into a year of hate -- I don't think he might -- all the players not talked to a well now before they happen. -- he. He went to the locker once in double a players that the im sorry John we got the work we can't talk yet. This email makes it sound like they stop they started -- him as of February 2 whatever that it wasn't this. He was whether -- was the raising persona announced on all Ottawa that. So that right there this is a fraud. Okay so any insider is not someone who's in the --"

Play from 14:57[14:57]" I is that it would be hard to because so few people are on the inside with the patriot you know like even stuff that you get it you'd. You know they like you don't know their interactions of the football I'd go out and I just think it so hard to get those those little nugget of them to put -- on the Internet. And if you're reading an article based aren't how leaders circle works here why would you risk and do you sounds point when I agree with the mile and the thing to like okay you can't trace the computer and -- pretty smart if this up this kid now he's going to tell who's doing it and you're your future here going to be done because he's not going to -- that -- accident site but I wanted to."

Play from 15:34[15:34]" Even if you put a fragment it is no way they could never catch him. But would you want to -- right. I don't that the other side for a no upside whatsoever seeking -- four with you know and and right we. Like that you know we were wrong and made a mistake we as an organization feel that'll never happen again that's garbage no way that team means I'd. I I I don't you write an article they're smart to do I think this is just some fan living out some little -- apple and I'll bill -- you do that if you went on there and solve this. In this was off that came from him and we've had good rule -- it great was a player. And if you -- that's true and if you were audio player likes to me would be the most plausible I'd I was exactly more. More willing to accept that it was player and why someone in on football at castle."

Play from 16:25[16:25]" Public and -- they drafted a quarterback athletically outings lately gators. Our weather radio TV -- what -- dot com email address or use a reminder it isn't it commissioner Goodell. Come to the microphone we will go right to -- at continental hotel in New York and we will cover that press conference live in its entirety. Maybe it will go longer with the show I don't know who knows we -- my -- after 2 o'clock. I don't know what they're doing over there but right now on the phone his -- from LA John how you doin'. It."

Play from 17:01[17:01]" I wanted to call somebody -- I think that the -- Balanced people -- to say that I speak for a lot of hatred and when I say I won't ever get over that beatable. They don't like you know this year mean which are going to -- On the open final Q what Sports Illustrated come on captains on the expert Aaron -- way."

Play from 17:26[17:26]" Cannot laid in bed crying and over at that -- you know I still think about you know the cowboys and had a chance split three. It has gotten that one guilt and Ellsbury if they went that they went this year you can overnight but I don't think you can -- Redick has and you could have been 38 -- and what we still don't always been a part of me that looks at as a lost opportunity no doubt but. Like you -- mention Johnny Aaron Boone paying and I and bleed out big Red Sox and two. That one killed me but the fact that they want to the next year allowed you digital and -- I look at is they should've won back the rabbit they should. But I don't. Now like I out of his way out it doesn't keep me up at night just like if the patriots squad when it will this year which lets face it that they're going to be the best team on paper and they are number one of the I want -- are -- power rankings and ten man. I don't. It's strictly formidable. The cowboys won the superbowl the year after and you know it took that thing away but now years later I just think we're so locals that three. Man we were so close to a perfect season you know -- 75 it's 86 for the Red Sox. It never going to forget that right in what do they win another Super Bowl about to take the stay away."

Play from 18:39[18:39]" It'll take away a little bit but look they go perfect it's going to be that like ultimate --"

Play from 18:44[18:44]" So I don't like gap but if they win the Super Bowl like DT -- under. Everett does that million -- extra time -- I was ranked worked out that they go to public board with a Super Bowl you'll be happy."

Play from 18:57[18:57]" No copy I'll be very happy and that you wouldn't completely make up for missing out on the history right."

Play from 19:03[19:03]" Well as Bill Belichick would say it's two separate event you know they've got connected whatsoever. I."

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Play from 19:30[19:30]" from LA he's up early elected that. All the patriots appalled by only one of the -- they go on and that will be -- big show. Com is about how they have you know every team uses three signal callers dummy signal callers. And some of the lead at one point I had great but the other. At one single guy making some of those and signals I've ever seen in my life simpler than some of the ones that the teams I've been you on my -- yes yeah. Absolutely ridiculous how simple they work. And and noticed they that you could use it. The -- had like three -- was it was like his -- his belly and to -- in with that being thing we have pull your fingers across your finger at me and I don't think yeah -- fictional he had that I'm guessing very -- mines went. Putting that together with a play that followed could come up with something would come up with a friend. I think that why the patriots did this because you never know what it was about right you -- never know did the team is really I could change as signals every week as seven guys don't let's get it -- don't. Let's do let's do it and a lot of them write what I mean the browns it was that which date answer yeah. They weren't exactly dominating The League in you know revolutionizing coaching youth by the guy who had you know three signals -- one guy right so. Let my guess is there was a -- spent a coverage and -- let's get it all down overview wise probably might be able to use them we want but let's just get. It you know built properly with the it was a defensive coordinator -- get all the things that they're saying that he said. When he became -- head coach you don't want a lot of these idiots don't do that that you probably gain an advantage from. -- that and the rules say they'll get because that poorly written. And did you read the order article president you patriots fans like to promote as the reason why I was okay the patriots cheated with the chiefs haven't they didn't -- did you read it now because there's an awkward for this is needed sixty said everybody. It's great it's written at the next play and you know -- was played on seven different teams and every team he got to they asked in the secrets and Al Davis is quoted. All these things. There's word and it's got a phobia or something and it's it's the obsession with the with by. There's no doubt in my mind -- Beltre has that will be. Because -- Thanks everybody buying on him and he's buying and everybody Andy don't ever forget even paranoid people can have been in. Just because you're paranoid in and -- about it -- And fly planes. On but that's why my father's theory is is that telecheck his wearied and everyone's dual meet him when he's -- everybody and our doubles as the same way. Yours there Wanda was badly they're doing all these things they think everyone else is -- wouldn't that's why they're guarded alike agree with patriots fans -- this has been happening forever and it's cyclical that doesn't mean it's okay. -- been happening reverently they'll try to -- I think that's why you know you can criticize it -- I think he looked up but you know in this process but. I think what he's done with these you know more strict guidelines is okay. I know all this crap has been going on going forward on on my let right let's try to you know addressed this thing because that Torre talks about palace was one of the prominent Jeter's buyers whatever Paul Brown and wins George Allen tried to leave him to go coach the arabians I think and he who he wasn't going to let him believe that he was his best buy you need it. Not only didn't want to lose his best buy but -- knew that another team would have. The best buy by I was gonna say you I almost guarantee from what I know old George bell was so that's my you know this has been good you know Mangini doubt I around forever to -- rushed storied privately that one yeah. The guy that there at the hotel the night before on the road in this -- around in one of those banquet rooms in the our pot in the middle -- and the guys to talk about the game plan for the next morning -- Watson goes. A guy's crazy you can't talk about here Paul Brown probably -- yeah a lot of Italy's is Kansas City with -- Lamar hunt was notorious for about anything do you think Tom Landry was -- all that -- you know is all in the movie north Dallas forty holiday with a team flawless technology what do you think they were don't want that technology. I guarantee it come in -- is -- we did you know. I Willie William think that any writers bill and oh. -- we determined that wherever it is probably as it is really long these these vote -- and not all that entertaining if somewhat -- yeah."

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