PFW in Progress - 6/10/2008

Tue, 10 Jun 2008

In this edition of PFW in Progress we recap this past weekends mini camp at Gillette Stadium. We'll also discuss Monday's Patriots Charitable Foundation Golf Tournament which took place at The International in Bolton, Massachusetts. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, Tom and Erik as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Listen LIVE Tuesday's and Thursday's from 12-2 p.m. and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 3:29[3:29]" Yeah -- really enjoy enjoy the evening as you -- and they were able to make it to the golf tournament yesterday morning much everybody was for all that and probably of more interest to a listeners the mini camp. Took place Friday Friday Saturday Sunday. Saturday regular two hour practice has no pads or anything like that but doubtful full squad. That on -- that Eric was here for an abbreviated walk through more -- I had not even -- not even helmet hot and we should point out strategy you on Friday we had some -- in I'd India field on Saturday and Sunday. Really really the heat moved into the New England area very very quickly mid ninety's temperatures and humidity. -- sure exactly what Bill Belichick a -- to see you know to. One good -- to getting that -- conditioning level where it wanted to today even today and Tuesday night that is going to be reaching a hundred and I'm areas."

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Play from 5:53[5:53]" Friday's workout all of which had on sort of known injury or dealing with the rehab on a that we know of -- and on Saturday the same nine guys were missing in addition to that David Thomas who we know is coming up on foot problems what what didn't didn't work out -- on the DL but politics out stressed that everybody was here an accountant what did we know about Welker -- he was one of the ones that christmas -- something that okay he was there on some very minor. Very -- bright and he was there on Sunday which was that abbreviated thing we talked about which you know was even less than a normal practice well. More so than anyone sticking out of me because I really didn't have him in -- really in any individual that I thought. Really knock out more than any announcement. Some of the things they -- working on Saturday -- they worked a lot offensively on screens. I'm an act which was kind of interest in media and a lot of different kinds screens -- without the traditional kind of went with Maroney looked out of the backfield -- Kevin -- to some of those things but all -- Involving a wide receivers Chad Jackson in particular in Indian and I talked about this. A little bit I think maybe. It makes a lot that you have an athlete like dad who's probably going to just nice stuff with the football hand. Maybe an effort to get the ball to him right away and easy catches you know he's not lingering pain you know 34 weeks into the season. You know with three of four catches wondering when what am I going to get to make an impact in the offense. Might give him an opportunity to do it really really quickly so not that made a lot of -- and now I'd I was interest in watching some of that now. To be all right to -- to me like eight in May be worth what tinkering with some of the execution element of an odd that they really work with the offensive lineman. I'm in preparation but when -- the team Erica. Began in in doing that you know the timing of getting getting out and make in the blocks -- to me it felt like was -- To read how effective they were doing it because you know like below as -- it teaching right now -- Not hitting anybody's help evaluate where they'll pats knotted at Eric even though they know."

Play from 8:02[8:02]" They have always -- now but there were two things that it out to me over the course of the the mini camp and we talk a little bit about to turn -- podcasts on Friday was. One and you mentioned that a little bit -- Chad Jackson was getting a lot of attention both from the quarterbacks he was gotten a lot of passes thrown his way and also from. From his position coach and from Josh mcdaniels offensive coordinator so it looks like. They're giving him every opportunity to do what we thought he was. You know drafted to do which was become the number one or two guy and he won't be number one as long as Moss is here but at least to be the number two guy this year. And I agree I agree with Erica and I think they're going to give him every opportunity to win a roll and I think it's kind of one of those make a break -- years just three it's a big year. When you haven't done anything yet that is what this I think some pressure there but I agree -- And the coaches are really put a lot on Chad Jackson right now and he looks good right now he looks healthy he's catching the ball well from what we've seen. The other thing I noticed was Matt Gutierrez looks like he is ready to challenge effort but the number twos."

Play from 9:08[9:08]" It it his right. Now I. Removed lie yeah you part company yeah I'm Aaron moved via the ropes from the dock -- on non Eric's boat and now I think that he. Throws the ball as as impressively as any of quarterback -- that when you watch the drill. -- his where -- will agree with -- I think it he had he might -- the best ball out of -- for an accounts Brady yeah you know in terms of velocity and -- backed -- I just haven't seen in army again. Did not really doing anything that can be evaluated -- say in Madrid in the team periods -- I haven't seen him look any better or put differently related and I saw last year oiler era any other times aren't aware Eric what are you basing your analysis -- well I like Gutierrez."

Play from 9:53[9:53]" By like now I mean because he's -- now has -- on no I didn't wake you. No he did not yeah intelligent of course until tonight I don't know maybe you know -- I kind of I'd just a group on that. From what I've seen this year as opposed to last year I think he has made progress and it is more confidently I was in a system a little bit better. Like Paul said he throws probably the best ball four quarterbacks that are in camp. But I just think that. Just from those intangibles what little we've seen so far I think he's made enough progress to legitimately have a shot at trying to compete that number two spot. Everyone's assuming that you know with four quarterback there's going to be one odd man now and a lot of people are saying it's going to be castle but. You know they drafted this -- in the third round. O'Connell but you know they'll -- has kept four quarterbacks before namely the year they drafted decade Tom Brady then he will not do it this year. Probably not because of the roster limits and all that that's a big difference. But if -- I mean there's if that's the case there's going to be an odd man out it's not going to be Brady. So I think and it's not going to be that the kid they distract in the third round so it's going to be one of these other two I think I think Gutierrez does this."

Play from 11:10[11:10]" Don't -- no doubt that Gutierrez has shot to beat the number two quarterback data -- I don't disagree with what I'm saying based on what I've seen so far I haven't -- big gap between the people that do you know there's a lot to -- still I -- thing for example I think -- Has on the ball very effectively I think you look good in team drills authority he ran a great two minute drill on Saturday although he did get away with a very bad decision. Early in that drill when nine his receiver knocked the ball away from Mike Richardson which should have been interception but after that. He made probably the best throw I've seen I saw it in in the tutors and I was at camp. On -- passed on the -- to Marcus Pollard. I've seen that in the past -- seen him look good in practice I've seen him look good in drills I don't look good on the practice field and training camp I haven't even looked good. Really in an NFL game you know and I am only going to look great in pre season -- don't look okay but most when he's running around I -- when he is running around I haven't really into it is enough and that's why pick want to kind of put the -- on how great. You know Gutierrez has looked in some of the drills and whatnot I. I don't think that they look back -- I don't want to make it on the -- is very hard to judge the defense obviously because -- is about hitting in the can't do that though. Focusing on the -- a little bit more Moss how to look to. You know compete ridiculously and it is yeah mid season form and he looks exactly like he did the you know right. Making four touchdowns against the Buffalo Bills on a night -- I mean that's a good he looks just lazy trying to goal and extend his arms to catch the ball but it's a difficult time it is almost wasted effort out of -- they had to play -- you know when they do the the two minute -- And the defense on time stopped them and and up like around forty yard line but. You know -- all rule with the situation is okay is two seconds left on the 43 yard line so he's gotta throw one up right. They throw one up. To him he's completely blanketed by Brandon meriwether and it and might have been -- their a couple of guys. This Saturday is Saturday went up and made a ridiculously. Tough catch look easy and then you know it's like every drill when they do it. It means something. That's the one thing I'm really struck by the professionalism of the team mini camp you know and how all the things kind of matter one point. Took eight years but that's good. No I'm talking with the players this mean the the the second mini camp and we weren't going to avoid that one it's the second mini camp Randy -- But and that's what I'm talking about that they would do one a a drill. Before they got together you know just to the receivers in. I don't think he liked the way it was gonna not going to quote him but -- I didn't misinterpret the way the rule is written for for us and arms are reporting it's as. He should not comment on. You know quote that you two should not call the players during the practice to me that as I should never what -- coaches yes but that's me I I read that as I should never really. Quota coach based on what as a practice not not just during the practice. But except for a minute I didn't misinterpret. I want to make sure I don't -- Randy Moss -- he didn't like the way things going any any let the other receivers know about it but mall together. It was good you know I have leadership."

Play from 14:30[14:30]" I mean we only two you're a young guy of that you know and you're right about your Cessna Randy Moss we had the ability to actually why era a couple of the huddles last year. For use in the museum that we're building. And Al -- other than Brady the most talkative guy in the huddle as Randy martz doesn't surprise and he's talking about okay Tom I'm going to do this look for this. Talk and other receivers you know your guys doing this go do you know he's telling other people asking questions and he's very involved you know a lot of times if you look at those wide receivers had a jump out of the hoddle. Early in -- in the position when the other guys are breaking and all they care about is their own route -- it. But mark is involved in the game he's looking at what the other team -- do look at the matchup and talking with Brady. You know you'll hear him when you go to museum -- Tommy Tommy you gotta look at you know he's he's really embodies the very cerebral player."

Play from 15:29[15:29]" That might be the -- that kind of struck me the most last year was I know that he was probably somewhat misunderstood in in terms of the effort in all that stuff. But I didn't realize what do know of the game -- and and how I road runners in in you know and I'm about right yeah I often from myself like you're talking about on on a field at camp and stuff like that but some of that. Just listening to how we interacted with Brady in particular. And then watching -- listening to build talk about. How hard he works in terms of getting I'm down in no worries most to -- sometimes you think of those wide receivers you start to say if Fred. Money leave the hot it is kind of think well they count her out on the -- as such great athletes they just go out there they can open and hope quarterback gets in the ball while. It doesn't work like Madden and Marshall is that you need to to not only have all that god given ability but -- applied as well. -- especially on an an offense like new England's where there's so much checking with the quarterback there's so much you have to be. On the same page and we talked to one of the pocket already walked with the right if generally -- of yeah -- uranium monsters are going to go there's two yards off the spot where you're suppose to be an opening up the ball. You know if you're if you're for a you have to be exactly where you need to be -- or is that going to have that confidence and -- you mentioned that it's it's kinda hard to. Sort of stopped -- with a -- those camps and I agree with you on. But one guy that that I -- kinda watchable it was Tank Williams and -- he's got our press out well it is written press because he's to a different things but I gotta kinda keep an eye on I think they'll try to figure out what he can do with this guy. And we know that she can fill in the blank -- I'd love you bill work with that. And and he's you know he's at -- at 222 to 23 something like that on our bed. Might we wrote that he probably close to 2 oiler in tune in at thirty somewhere and I know that Mike talked to bill little bit on Saturday. Off sides on jet net maybe. That was the topic pity that he was he was talking about a -- told them that so I kind of put validity in that. He's using. Tank Williams right now -- about payroll you coupons we use a defender in the back up and I mean he's been a safety he's been a -- he's out linebacker he's been inside linebacker and -- chances. I think that he really in that Rodney Harrison type mold where he's comfortable at -- around the line of scrimmage he's comfortable backing coverage. He made when I thought was the play of the -- a weekend. On covering. Kevin Faulk on wheel route out of the backfield and on goal line play and red zone -- Adam stride for stride the ball is a little bit under thrown from Brady he went up picked it off. Defends like crazy I was probably the High Point of the Saturday practice but. I don't know if he can play linebacker he would seem to meet -- too small to play inside linebacker any kind of consistently but. In spots you know well parts are they here and there you know as a hybrid kind of -- bill's gonna find ways."

Play from 18:28[18:28]" I think -- an innovator yes and I think he's that way this league is going to win its third long. You know why not you know make another defensive ball -- Philly caught a linebacker in why not have it be a guy that's on the field. -- you know. You know had experience doing this up you know on several management what to equally Greg -- things this may happen on on first and upper -- and clearly on third and -- defensive backs in the field some animal and the linebackers come out and an extra defensive backs -- win. Rodney played linebacker in sub packages all the time right and I think hank Williams -- be back and players well I've wary of first down because you know. In the other teams -- down and you worry about the guy his -- been able hold out."

Play from 19:15[19:15]" And brought a full -- basis I would agree I don't think he's big enough I mean even if -- 230 I don't you know at -- that -- guy of course not played linebacker wiping a -- You know Tedy Bruschi -- played linebacker -- years and you maybe a little bit smaller than some of the other guys you know earlier in throughout Bruschi is sort of developed over the years. I don't how guy who's played secondary solid -- Korea is going to suddenly stepping in place 34 pain and I'd line back out there."

Play from 19:42[19:42]" At fullback shedding you know guys that aren't yet. I don't know anyway that that the threat that Gary the view that you might yet the human. It out of the produce at a talent microphone is still down. What I think his wedding getting to him. We got he's uptight that the might go about working it's about a hundred degrees here it is no air conditioned -- Clement -- and yet today I promise fans that we go to the golf tournament in have lie you know interviews with the players. When we get got a little bet it -- back. So I mean I -- good stories -- I mean what's going on in the again. You know I know -- wedding Saturday. Then -- I know you wedding Saturday -- you know -- a job to do here I'm a little -- you have to be here Thursday. And -- And and tonight at Daytona I don't right afterwards that the Friday before mine is no way. Go to wait till July after his way. Like -- that we got more urgent and out of that we normally do and life is good. Any body did not know I have all the feel we've taken any conditioning in here but he's going away for three."

Play from 20:59[20:59]" There are no fans anywhere. Yeah the golf tournament was and was interesting yesterday's thread doing a lot of stuff -- Carolina left there -- a lot of us stragglers shall we say the golf tournament yesterday. Yeah definitely when that that putt that was used to seeing that you yeah the focus and determination on his parents are you took that launch I thought yeah. There's and he went on his third time you know. Yeah its -- wonder why he was -- up to our right in the the competition was taken played little bit too while laughed as the get a walk right by an United as we were. Trying to do work in a little bit of radio which we ended up really not anything that was. That was -- but I try to take -- net net you know usually -- always makes economy at the golf tournament by St. He's going to try to you know the long drive whatever it was it apparently you know evidently with me. So he's -- combine Sydney comes Rodney Harrison with that determined look on his face evidently he is going to get corporal -- prize this year -- didn't break stride to crack my coach skip don't know that may take yeah 105 guys in badly on in the first round and then I end up winning it would appoint 287 yes. Now what was the prize here do we know I'll -- him in the regular I don't have the book with media to look at wall up ridiculous Leah. Nice price extravagant things as as normally but it was great for the foundation and I know they raise about a half a million dollars just that pace that everybody okay and how is that. Tough -- golf with that way in it was a perfect conditions -- a cloud in the sky bright sunshine but. Mid ninety's anyway if not higher make -- their bodies aren't. -- well well. What's take a break -- we have -- coming today and went on the way he writes that when that comes we will talk about it. I want to recount his Sally email that he and for the -- do that right after the."

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