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[1:30]" Place place fills the bill. Get open most or late August so please stop and watch the guys back yet the fans are going to be happy it is very little Gary's got a cult following now and Gary's -- he'll look under Gary's back the day -- here except for the Indians taking his over Tuesday how many how many days off the yet this year. Well take it every Tuesday they office work on weasel -- his -- schedule it's like we've we've given -- thing. He had a throw at all in the week to week -- the whole week. My dad's at all nobody is where did you might get Aziz suspension for them for the Irish -- them package for weeks that the good on the runway at it. Don't anyway you know internally for right right -- be here until 2 o'clock the email address the web radio pictures dot com Bono was five -- 37482. You want to call in or email -- radio like. Gary's back from his honeymoon. He was -- eight hits apparently somebody some paparazzi. Snap some pictures nude pictures of area but you -- won the -- though it got to go to the dude has been out there. No there was one muted note that was well -- yeah all the islands -- Don't tell me you've been different why don't tell me -- well I -- I Lanka when you live in the Caribbean -- One and went and that would be that we go to with the local girls which is now that's okay it if this new beach like just had girls don't. I'd be fine well but for some reason fat old man like a walk around make it -- they want -- I don't have an advocate. There -- ice -- there were you know gay guys and you know I'm I'm afraid that the -- right. You all the WNBA guys these guys the idea that there -- little little bit in the front row boat behind the rowboat while the wind rowboat kind of move. There was one guy -- it was. The hole between. But your friend again. -- anyway we're here and -- about Patriot Act. The -- this morning that the kind that. We want to happen but will he enters apparently in hot water angles you know last. I think we can get well I think he's I think he's bill they keys. He's not Tom Brady adult -- to put up -- that kinda stuff for Williams now. A little bit more than just pushing the traveling secretary and yeah and a little bit more than an hour walk and now and I wanted to me the -- the first one but this one certainly seems a little more I mean this is kind of a pattern guy -- guys volatile. And he's not that good so right -- and I know you -- but that's part of it -- part that's part of I don't work with a guy that. Actually keep keep them benefit. This guy so far really don't know what that whole week's freedom and a -- cardinal team treat every but it never had -- that I -- and in any."

[4:46]" A lot of people are upper arms and we kind of were talking about earlier with the Manny thing and in Boston that. Take on a life of its own now I mean he was involved in an altercation with the traveling secretary for the team -- old man. Yeah he'd you know they got short argument idiot mania that up I guess pushing him and knocked into the ground which is completely reprehensible behavior Freddy. You know athlete any any person a -- any human being in in knocked down a natural -- Like Tom said it's not a news Nashville that there are different rules for the caliber player -- the -- I can't believe via. The indignation righteous indignation on the part of the media. All you know -- certainly -- Disney got."

[5:29]" Released really yeah. Because you lost nine starts and arrow that's why he's not getting -- them a reason why he got into the altercation in the first place is used being demoted. That's why he attacked as general manager and yet there are different rules for the different caliber players that's life. Just like the salesman and a car dealership to probably get away with more than the worst salesman could you don't think read -- back treated bill Russell differently than you know some of these other guys that thought it would not always been that would Michael Ryder liberal Michael -- the team plane to Detroit. Jimmie Johnson benched him for two plays. It -- ours we came in the third played after the they set. If that was somebody else would he -- been spend -- longer and he said yes but we need Michael Irvin went right I think that's the way it -- what you're hurting your teammates are doing so. Maybe figure out the mother waiter so Willie Andrews I think we can all agree. Probably not going to make it to camp probably -- can I ask you questions and we hear this. You know the post Super Bowl whatever what do you call like and moaning over. That I you have the -- major thing you have Julian drizzling now these guys are huge stars but. If things are -- ball little bit you look back and say this was kind of the beginning of well bad thing you're my -- you know obvious time will tell but you know. Late in the NFL it's it's not just the probable lose all the teams have trouble with you know to great you know."

[7:00]" About a two Friday and the media thought. With all -- after Goodell did you know the personal conduct policy that he put in there but for all the teams in the code of conduct and in all the attention. It doesn't seem to be working not blaming -- at all. He's he's trying he's trying to clean things up he's trying to impose stiffer penalties and whatnot but it's just not working. And we have that Mike Florio with the though was -- watch him go Woody called. It it only goes like today you know before he asked a recent and yet only -- the double -- couple it's unbelievable you know it's -- nothing seems to be working and I know there's more players in the NFL than the other sports leagues because. You know 53 man roster but -- percentage wise even. The NFL is dealing with these more often than the other sports let me ask you guys questions to think look at a young Terrell Buckley looks in the title. What are the football packer quarterback -- I think that you about rookie year to."

[8:04]" what I read that book about Oklahoma from Charles Johnson the quarterback he was explaining how they could get away with anything there. It it made them feel you know hole. Like they could do I feel of today's college football with the parity there already like before there used to be like maybe ten schools like Brett. Melt like everywhere but you can Eddy anyone can be good -- Florida Kansas Margaret do you feel more college like young kids -- that -- in college that you know. We can do whatever we want that comes with the NFL they kinda got that -- the opposite young a lot of over 20/20 122."

[8:37]" I think well you know what I think it it it might of helped college football I think back in the day when Nebraska and Oklahoma and Texas were power houses. They were kind of on a pedestal Notre Dame and they could get away with anything I think now the scrutiny has -- down to the you know these teams now where. You know. Now now Oklahoma isn't the only football factory --"

[9:00]" I don't know I think it helps cops say we'll make it to the pros. Like maybe some guy who played at Kansas wasn't a big deal you know what I mean maybe get a better -- that it. But now I think football is so big a lot of different schools then just a couple. We're you know everyone at Missouri has a chance to win the national title this year -- you know that happened back in the old days. And they have stars now you know when they come to the NFL right there superstars that's right there seems to be like more superstars from different schools common now. Then it used to be."

[9:31]" I don't know maybe it's just you know. Now the media which is so covered right blanketed that. That's part of you know there's no questions that you know that saturation of those kinds of website and whatnot at thirty dot com everything you do he is out everybody's got a camera they're old -- without somebody snapping a picture of -- year. You don't even have my name is. And so a lot of the cup that probably happens and twenty years ago we hear about how all over the right."

[10:00]" You know doesn't seem a little more surprising -- it's happening in his name and age where there really is no offseason the peak of players are always working out there are still in meetings -- lifting. You know even even in except for this time of the year right before camp but in the old days there there wasn't so much of that and maybe there was more time finances sort of you know get in trouble trying to get but nobody reported -- the thing that's of the reporters were we're going on the buses in the team planes with a team like us back in the old bats all yeah."

[10:29]" And I think you're right Tommy and -- that's part of what we're talking about now you can't really get away I mean forget about way back when you know in the fifties and sixties. Not only those guys -- they were. Doing their best of parity they were trying to help the teams -- any kind of got to the point you know more recently. Went even when it was a separation when that is when the reporters weren't traveling with the teams in what they still kinda had the team's best interest in mind. Now that -- huge story you know offer for reporters in 19. The last 1520 years -- in a clear aberration and I think part of that. You know kind of the social you know socially. There's such a big difference and it's getting wider and wider between the players. And the people that cover the teams you know -- back in the fifties there wasn't that much of a different. Now -- you talking about you know look that up the Goodell talked about what the rookie salary wage and all that stuff. These guys -- the league there are ready multi millionaires and and you know debate relate even less than last with guys like us. Who you know -- just you know kind of working try to do my job and and making you know regular average out of that."

[11:39]" The thing I don't think you're ever going to be able to replace that are number Marshall fall talking about a once he came from. Or the poor sections in the United States and he said when they hand you their first check you know all the 2030 million. You literally don't I mean you you have all what you want from nothin' to have a all the money most of these people it's beyond a or African Americans who grew up in you know some bad neighborhoods and in came up through. And it's hard when you come from nothing. You know I know that don't have much arsenal heavy money but I'm sure if someone gave me some quick. I think be going out to it's an outlet used that as excuse but he just said. You don't he had it took him a couple of years to realize how to handle stuff but he generally gotten much trouble -- that he sees some of these other."

[12:22]" I mean they they try to -- with these guys -- seminars but the thing is they do it like. You know now right it -- I don't let that affect like that -- Jones obviously lots happened money. He closest club he -- money he loves being rich you know what I mean he loves to show off its power power you know in its influence and and you know different guys handle at different ways in like -- there's enough of these guys were even if it's only 10% a large number. You know it's just 10% of the guys -- when the -- they'll large number. But I throw balls right about the money I mean before like Grogan said they have summer jobs oh yeah that's not that --"

[13:04]" use Grogan as an example 'cause you know there was an explosion in on salary and I think that. You can't relate any more the such a difference an eight and you -- Q do you feel when he when he talked to the rookies of the first time. That did you know and I'm not they're not bad people that make them bad people but there's -- best of yeah the event -- different venue it's if you can answer that -- at you consensus really even when when we're at the Columbine. Because you see these guys before they get drafted before they get that first check and you Steve then change once they come into the league and become a market you."

[13:39]" They're that your Jamarcus Russell is the prime example that he was up there he will Hollywood. -- draft he knew it was going to be the first pick in the he's just he was it up and you could tell right there that he was. I know what you mean it's definitely different feeling."

[13:54]" GNNJ says that back in the old days of players went to work they had paid jobs they needed to work during the offseason to make money. Today these guys have got nothing to do in the off season more than ever as the saying goes idle hands are the Devils -- thing."

[14:08]" Yet it only takes a couple hours to -- you know to lift weights and runs -- all its not like at 9 o'clock at night that are in the Jim Cameron miners used to stuff like that. So they these guys got more money there's more technology there's more things to do like these guys that there is more media he could take a picture with yourself fault. And and the value strippers like you said."

[14:29]" I think you made the point all the media back then was more. You know decades ago was more and looking out for the team's interest now of the reporters and are looking up their own and that kind of stories and and and -- company -- yeah. The organizations like the glow in the in the -- now they actually stories that thirty dot com were in Brighton you know our hearts are breaking. And then what they find out that shred of evidence that might be true now they have that worry. You know oh. Little little guys are now breaking the story that the guys that ever happened before. You know that was read it well out now. You know this Internet thing it might get around out there. Like that during -- journal wave back Fred when when McDonough used to do this you know without Patriots money back he'll Patriots club in -- stadium and he told that he tells that story about he was golf -- one town with -- And they can -- it's always up on the tee box getting ready to tee often. He just backed off his ball and started muttering to himself and swearing at bat when bill was the head coach Cleveland right and and he said and will was like you -- what's -- appeal like you know. These players in it was not a lot more colorful language but. You know these players you just never know what -- do when you don't know with it to one right now and and the trouble they getting to the point is -- he can't eat she can't keep track -- you can't. Control everything right in the middle of June all season in and bill though it -- could worry about what the guys are doing on their free time. No matter what it's alum you know there -- trouble. And mcdonalds like Billy. Have -- heart -- and -- over the ball takes -- and hit it does I'll like tie."

[16:20]" But like you're saying in front back in the -- any -- done on CBS or yeah he was on NBC and he's right yeah like that but I remember watching that waiting for him to come out there. Now -- a hundred will -- right you know like I was one of the few guys that would give information that's an original -- little kid I remember waiting for will -- to come on the tell me what's going out of the NFL right but like you -- go to pro football talking go anywhere."

[16:44]" By the like a pro football talk to try to get it Patriots that the -- Parent and you vote that they -- toward a week we take we sent the tickets out every year we come up with that type of team. Of the theme was you know the hall opening up all the pitchers played. It's a week it great moments that great great moment in Patriots in one of the moment was the 563 win over the yet the larger. Win spread in Patriots history apparently in oh. It's the Patriots try to rub it into the yet no again those evil Patriots you know dieters and -- how can they do that. You know now you know."

[17:22]" Let me ask you to make it to pass for the but a real newspaper Clinton would report that. But Florio can take it and throw his right now no wording that going in the next five to ten years as ours you know what I mean is -- How far is -- going to go."

[17:39]" I think it. You know it it's a good question you know big -- like better and get more popular well."

[17:44]" You know that with a seven a couple of years ago when you hear somebody from ESP and that is that you know all the it to become but I need that one. You know people get over like this kind of you know. New they'll eventually gravitate back to the big right to get their news that he kind of -- cyclical you can. More as a -- about reality T I don't American Idol -- wondered -- somebody made a point maybe it would you Paul Rabin the guy that will be. Alia was me daddy who started that in -- you know which was all they're all excited to have Anatoly established Irish and Italian government job and now -- always -- time right so you know it. But the Internet it does give people form and you know -- you. Keep breaking news that tickets at the big -- have to chase and you have a little bit of money to keep yourself afloat. You know you'll probably laugh now. Corporate Matt -- you know it is we have to get you know a lot of these old habits have to reconcile that with the fact that they. Probably changed -- for good. It's never going to go back to the way and it's probably going to change but never go back to the way the you know the way people get their news is different now that will be. That's stripper -- what you try to get to him he'll allow such well throughout --"

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[19:18]" But it responded to his own zone could have. -- right outlet radio pages account email address. Somebody's got up again ya got from right. 1230 in the end drop the ball meaning we'd like our return. Let's buy that -- basement for the new I I wouldn't. However want to buckets I don't I don't like it was but he has to a more than one you know. They're they're clamored for the pay pal and they want -- yeah because they want to contribute. As they go along -- one necessarily I think that that would be good. But and let him to make it simply paper and show you know fifty -- every time ago. And satellite radio will what would be good. It means what somebody buys a 130 dollars worth of food that's okay but somehow they buy forty dollars worth out of -- What you put pay -- kind of asking for now more of you know in play I unlike last year begging for one person. But what you put it up on the pages all that and I would hate him out there talking about the they'll -- and nights that's his own I'd I'd suggest not doing it. You know I go on record saying I feel comfortable with that. But that's his eyes went bad but I can I I go on record saying rather. Yet if I was out Vegas and I and I get a big one Fella by guys like I'd rather just put -- now a to take care does because I don't feel like call up by lunch with your information that. I mean yeah. Maybe that's while one -- but -- Gary Gary we need to get the lowdown on how things went under a honeymoon people want to know. You committee emailed it people a lot they're -- emails came in when you were gone those are all deleted now. But listen to them actually there was a lot you know loser but that's okay you know at well it's my job. Being a loser you know you -- you know emails that are coming that you might as well -- You -- kit kit and yachts leave with. The small island yes the area at that. Private what I need this that's that I think it on T pay not a lot -- Gary -- wanted to know if you apparently you did any scuba diving I think -- no idea and pretty big we were thing advising her to think about that we needed they'll north. Why is that. The Chico -- yeah okay I'll. And Gary unfortunate but I don't put Portland Fred fortunate could make it -- word is yet these guys in the -- Yeah after. God as my and it's cold though we were about a far away from civil if I think -- how does that as a witness the original that a program had them right by the barn back that's like put them but it -- the bar. -- thanked the hell. What happened to sleep all the other injuries on its own corner. Well part of it was -- are all are looking at. Yeah bluntly you know we wanted to volume that was with me how much the last time I was with back better and opened by a gotta drive -- today that exist today. -- that was it -- wedding was nice and what he's back from his honeymoon. So those that Garrett with your vacations use them pretty much joke -- And as it is and I ago 9 -- and -- had a good as 2010 million but I like oh -- Anyone that the -- thirty of the forties like what I would call. What we -- this decade beyond the call on the ought. A lot like that it yet again playoff six eloquently old -- Beckett got eight I think I -- and a while you know have so many of those around anymore. Mike IDs a comedy and public Josh -- I've been here in about -- eight and now. It's very complex proposal. We owe him an apologetic -- that invented the odd if we owe him an apology."

[24:06]" Sir this whole panel and an apology I was right that's partly it's because that's obviously the other. Thirty guys and now on August 29. On board with him like how many teams that they -- all real anyone got that -- was just peppery with -- in not -- was supposed to be. You know they all knew that they hadn't really figured out the whole revenue sharing between the teams. In Italy do that they can't figure out how much the players."

[24:40]" And then -- drop that. Ahmad gene Upshaw are responding to Goodell and you out of the Goodell is peaking at some golf -- tapping into that accurate at least you know it was ridiculous he called it and -- responded by saying you know back Condit was ridiculous and will never realized that that. Whenever agreed about them -- wanted to go proposed. Another problem you pick it -- shouldn't be doing that the media though talking you know Lola pot calling things we did yeah Scioscia ended his league doesn't help now. Down with a right on IR a little worried I can understand thinking it's ridiculous and bring it to -- attention to say it just -- You know in the media's and the -- I was NPR it you know -- He wants the clutch -- yeah yeah. Get it done it's refreshing -- at the same time you wonder Liza you know and I -- a fair and I've been -- I've been a backer. You know from the start I don't like the way he handled the spy gate thing and I'm not just been -- don't think you handle that well. But then he he don't like European -- Fred Fred get right. He's looking for guys like us to say you tellem. You know it's that's cricket academy of top money -- and -- yeah I but we have a unique they had an argument on the show a month or so ago member about the rookie pay scale and so well. Let's -- needs to be done. But again you can't to escalate as atomic -- but you just can't goal you know talking about things in your league. So publicly that you're making people. You know you basically traded clutch -- you're having started the negotiations break it what he said caused people to go to option -- and get a response and all of a sudden has a story out. You know just. They need to do you know my you know my theory is. I believe Jerry Jones in the crafts are actually running the NFL sky a puppet master put him by those two orders that they."